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Jaguars Reporters: Monday, April 4 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: I asked, Doug, you know, since you got the number
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Speaker 1: one pick, do you spend more of your thirty visits
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Speaker 1: on you know, pick thirty three, pick st five? He
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Speaker 1: said no. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters presented by t I
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Speaker 1: A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan,
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Speaker 1: and j P. Shagray. Jaguars Reporters presented by t I
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Speaker 1: A A Bank starts right now. Welcome into the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Reporters podcast. It's Monday, April fourth, j P Shadrick, Ashlan Sullivan,
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Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, John Osier were one week away from the
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Speaker 1: start of the off season program for the Jaguars and
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Speaker 1: there are a few teams that have started today. Teams
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Speaker 1: that changed coaches after the regular season are eligible to
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Speaker 1: start today. Doug Peterson, I guess decided to slide it
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Speaker 1: back a week. But here we go. We're a week
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Speaker 1: away from actual players in the building, players in the building,
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Speaker 1: weights being lifted, treadmills being used well. And I was
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Speaker 1: at a dinner with Doug last week and he was
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Speaker 1: talking about the other thing that he gets and he
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Speaker 1: hasn't scheduled, or maybe he scheduled. He hasn't told us
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Speaker 1: what the schedule is. His new coaches get an extra
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Speaker 1: mini camp on the front end, an extra veteran mini
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Speaker 1: camp for the opportunity to install. So we'll see how
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Speaker 1: quickly he jumps into that. It doesn't sound like he's
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Speaker 1: gonna hurry to start the program, But last week it
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Speaker 1: sounded like he was. He was excited that he get
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Speaker 1: these guys here the mini camp. Yes, fine, he gets
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Speaker 1: the necessarily getting guys in a week early is not
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Speaker 1: his big deals people make it out to be. Uh,
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Speaker 1: is there any way I can get him to cancel
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Speaker 1: O t A s Is that al? Actually they're not.
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Speaker 1: They get him back because new coach all sins forgiven
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Speaker 1: on that front. So they get him back. Which it
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Speaker 1: was a soul crushing moment for me when I found
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Speaker 1: that out. I'm not coming back, Sule, But yeah, whoa
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Speaker 1: whoa mini you know so. But I think from talking
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Speaker 1: to him, he gets what's important about the off season
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Speaker 1: and what's not. It's not necessarily important to stockpower every
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Speaker 1: day possible. It's important to get the work done that
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Speaker 1: you need to get done. Well. He alsho you know,
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Speaker 1: in talking to him, and he spoke to the alumni
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Speaker 1: that we were with about their off season programs and
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Speaker 1: how they worked in Philadelphia, and he has a lot
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Speaker 1: of confidence in what they were able to achieve up there,
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Speaker 1: and it sounds like he's just rolling out the exact
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Speaker 1: same plan. Yeah, and talking with guys in the building.
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Speaker 1: It's been very refreshing from what happened last year because
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson really doesn't believe in working on weekends in
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Speaker 1: the off season. It's an incredible balance of work life
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Speaker 1: in the off season for them right now, where he
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Speaker 1: doesn't believe in being here till eleven o'clock at nine
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Speaker 1: in the off season feels like it's unnecessary and that
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Speaker 1: just speaks to them, been there, done that, don't need
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Speaker 1: to be here for thirteen hours in March. I don't
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Speaker 1: think I can state it enough. He is a regular guy.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't put on airs, you know, he understands the
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Speaker 1: responsibilities as the head coach. But in watching the way
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Speaker 1: that he was talking with the alums that we were with,
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Speaker 1: m I was really impressed with just his down to
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Speaker 1: earth nature. You've mentioned this, what was this event? I was.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing some work with the alumni these days and helping,
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Speaker 1: you know, organized we said, we had a dinner for
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Speaker 1: you know, some of the leaders of the alumni and
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Speaker 1: in the marketplace and he just to give you a sense,
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Speaker 1: he asked to come. He heard about it, he wanted
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Speaker 1: to come. UM and and he didn't speak for a
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Speaker 1: long time, and he had rookies coming in. You know,
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Speaker 1: there were thirty rookie visits. UM. He was very candid
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Speaker 1: with them about you know, who he is and what
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Speaker 1: he wants to do and why he does things, and
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Speaker 1: you know what he'd liked the alumni to do. UM.
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Speaker 1: It just obviously been around every coach that's ever been here.
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Speaker 1: UM as down to earth and normal a person, one
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Speaker 1: on one as we've ever had here. It was really
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Speaker 1: refreshing and he really lit up a lot of those guys.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he got they were excited about him. This
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Speaker 1: is the Jaguars Reporters podcast. And of course when the
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Speaker 1: players do get in here, as we mentioned, it's the weightlifting,
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Speaker 1: it's everything, not thing on the field, but getting in
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Speaker 1: those meeting rooms for the first time and actually installing
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Speaker 1: what this thing is going to look like. John. That's
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Speaker 1: that's step number one they've been working on and off
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Speaker 1: to the side, we can actually get your your message
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Speaker 1: in front of the players for the first time. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that. Obviously we've been through these storylines a lot,
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Speaker 1: and that's a huge storyline that we're gonna see. And
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Speaker 1: once we get on the field, which is a key
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Speaker 1: for us getting on the field, um in May and June,
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Speaker 1: exactly what does this offense look like with Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: in it? Um? Exactly what does this defensive scheme look like? Uh?
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Speaker 1: But yeah, once they get here, that's the key. It's
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Speaker 1: it's the mental reps. And again, I think that's why
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Speaker 1: Doug knows that, you know, you don't have to get
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Speaker 1: guys in necessarily April fourth on the Dot. He's got
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Speaker 1: a plan for rolling these things out, and he knows
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Speaker 1: how long it takes to get this implemented. People ever
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Speaker 1: think the offseason way too much in this league. I'm
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Speaker 1: glad he doesn't, right, I mean, because it's constant seven
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Speaker 1: news cycle now these days. Let's changed the whole world, Yes,
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Speaker 1: it has, So I appreciate the balance. I think that's needed,
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Speaker 1: especially from what happened last year and being here so often.
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Speaker 1: So I think I think a lot of people have
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Speaker 1: a refreshed feeling. Well, I remember also that you know,
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Speaker 1: we're coming out of last year, which was you just
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Speaker 1: decide the right adjective. At times it felt schizophrenic. It
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Speaker 1: was all over the place. No one was quite sure
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Speaker 1: who was doing, what, where, why, when, what was next?
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Speaker 1: It was it was crazy. So he gets that this organization,
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Speaker 1: and I've said this before, it really needs that whole
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Speaker 1: big brother affair, like the arm around the shoulders. I
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Speaker 1: know what this takes. I know how to make this better.
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Speaker 1: Take a breath, Take a breath, and let's go do this.
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Speaker 1: He's trying not to be schizophrenic in a moment. We're
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Speaker 1: three weeks away, a little over three weeks to the
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, So what now in that world? More after this,
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Speaker 1: So we're about three weeks away from the NFL Draft now,
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Speaker 1: you know, Bucky Brooks on the Huddle Up Pod last
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Speaker 1: week said he felt like it's really kind of down
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Speaker 1: to four guys, Hutchinson or Walker and the Neil or
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Speaker 1: Quantu pre draft visits blind you mentioned those are starting now,
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Speaker 1: so that process continues actually where players are coming in
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Speaker 1: person now, you know, in the older years past, there's
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Speaker 1: been you know, different degrees of accessibility to some of
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Speaker 1: those players, at least in our world, coming through not
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Speaker 1: the cases. You some organizations want to keep it up
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Speaker 1: as quiet as they can. That makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 1: But here we go there. This process is going right now.
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Speaker 1: It is. And I think when you when you mentioned
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Speaker 1: those four names, and we keep hearing about Hutchinson and
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Speaker 1: these pre draft visits, you can only imagine everything we've
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Speaker 1: heard about him off the field he will shine in
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Speaker 1: an interview aspect. So it already feels like it's pushing
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Speaker 1: that direction at least from what you see on the field,
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Speaker 1: that Hudgson would be a great pick. Then you add
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Speaker 1: in how well he'll do in an interview, and that
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Speaker 1: just seems like a slam dunk to me. I don't
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Speaker 1: know who is on the list, um, but I asked Doug,
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Speaker 1: you know, since you got the number one pick, do
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Speaker 1: you spend more of your thirty visits on you know,
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Speaker 1: pick thirty three, pick sixty five, do you spend more
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Speaker 1: time down the roster? And he said no, you know,
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Speaker 1: they were going to do their work at the top
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Speaker 1: of the draft also, and I John, I think that's
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Speaker 1: probably be because it's really close. I mean, there's not
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Speaker 1: one or two guys that are head and shoulders above
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Speaker 1: everyone else. Yeah, it's all due diligence. At this point,
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Speaker 1: I imagine that they know who they're selecting. I mean
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Speaker 1: when Trent Balky leaves in the evening. I'm sure he's
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Speaker 1: got a guy in mind. But you want to bring
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Speaker 1: guys in and make sure you've double checked everything. You
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Speaker 1: don't want to be on the clock. And the main
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Speaker 1: reason you do all this, all this research on four
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Speaker 1: or five guys, what if the guy that you think
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Speaker 1: you really like has something off the field week for
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Speaker 1: the draft where you say, WHOA, we can't take this guy,
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Speaker 1: which which happens? Um So you have to be ready
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Speaker 1: at all, you know, uh, for any scenario. It's easier
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Speaker 1: when you have the number one pick because you know
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Speaker 1: there's no scenario. But the other our reason you bring
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Speaker 1: in five six guys at the top. What if you
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Speaker 1: get a trade offer that you like and you loved,
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Speaker 1: say Aidan Hutchinson, But then you get this trade offer
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Speaker 1: that you love more an hour before the draft and
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Speaker 1: you take it, and then you haven't brought in Evan,
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Speaker 1: Neil and Quiet, you know, so you've got to do
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Speaker 1: do deals from that front. My thing with the thirty visits,
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily get married to just because they brought in
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Speaker 1: a guy. They're gonna they're going to bring in a
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Speaker 1: visit visits and who Who this team has talked to
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Speaker 1: with the Combine. Who they talked to the Senior Bowl
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Speaker 1: is my long standing pet peeve. Every team talks to
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Speaker 1: every player at some point, So the whole you know, hey,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars talked to this guy at the Combine doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: What does matter is the guys that they bring in.
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Speaker 1: There's probably ten of these thirty they bring in that
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Speaker 1: will be lower in the draft. Guys, uh, the sixth round,
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Speaker 1: the seventh round. That does give you a hint of
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Speaker 1: who like and often those guys will show up. Here
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Speaker 1: is a collegiate free agents at six and seventh rounds.
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Speaker 1: So let me give you four six round picks. Ye, yeah, so,
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Speaker 1: and let me give you a name. The reason why
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Speaker 1: I asked the question last week was um, back when
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Speaker 1: we had access and these guys came in and we
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Speaker 1: would do various interviews with them. That's crazy to think
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Speaker 1: that that's when it when it started. But I remember
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Speaker 1: sitting down, you know, with this kid from Maryland named
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Speaker 1: Unique and Gonckway, and I didn't know much about him, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, who did he played at Maryland? Wasn't like
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Speaker 1: he played at Florida State or Alabama or one of
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Speaker 1: these big schools. It's on TV every week. So when
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars got on the clock, right they brought him
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Speaker 1: into I knew they liked him. They got on the
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Speaker 1: clock and they got to that third round pick and
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Speaker 1: somebody you know from the sponsorship texting mego, who do
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Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be? And I said unique and Gonway.
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Speaker 1: It's unique and Gonway. So there are guys that they
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Speaker 1: are looking at and iman go back to Seth Payne
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick in who was in here with Tony
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Speaker 1: gadzalas the tight end from cow And so they do
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Speaker 1: dig deep on some of these guys, and if we
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Speaker 1: knew the list, we could probably kind of figure out
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Speaker 1: is that is it narrows on draft day? Where they're
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Speaker 1: headed on this thing? Some things still doing radio right
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Speaker 1: in Houston. Yeah, he came in from Cornell. Here's this
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Speaker 1: big defensive tackle from Cornell who's walking the hallways and
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Speaker 1: I meant that time he was huge. He filled this
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Speaker 1: whole hallway out. Who is this guy? You know? Then
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Speaker 1: they drafted him in the fourth round and you know,
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Speaker 1: he ended up being a good football players and may
11:39
Speaker 1: have been as good. And we're off topic a little
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Speaker 1: bit pat may have been as as good a h
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Speaker 1: what it was back then, but this would be a
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Speaker 1: second day pick now fourth round as a a second
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Speaker 1: day pick in franchise history. You know. The funny thing
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Speaker 1: was they drafted Rinaldo win with the first that year,
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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle, defensive lineman. He was always going back
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Speaker 1: and forth between end and tackle from Notre Dame and
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Speaker 1: and Seth Payne, and both of them ended up starting
12:09
Speaker 1: the second half of the season because of injuries and
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Speaker 1: playing really well until Denver ran over the Jags in
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Speaker 1: the playoff game with Terrell davis Um. So you just
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Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna pop up and be part of
12:21
Speaker 1: this thing. You never know. That's why you bring them
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Speaker 1: all in. That's what it's all about. Somebody else will
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Speaker 1: do it for you, and that's not what you want.
12:31
Speaker 1: Coming up this week, we're gonna catch up with Cold
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Speaker 1: Cublic of SEC Network. There are plenty of SEC prospects
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Speaker 1: that have been linked to the Jaguars, even at number
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Speaker 1: one overall. We'll get his thoughts on some of those guys,
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Speaker 1: and there are many of course throughout the different layers
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Speaker 1: of the draft. Will have the Wednesday Huddle Up Podcast
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Speaker 1: as well Jaguars Happy Hour possible special guests on Thursday afternoon.
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Speaker 1: More on that later this week, and then of course
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Speaker 1: we can review Friday Drive time tomorrow morning. What you got, Schwinn,
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Speaker 1: We have Cedric Scott's who is now leading the strength
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Speaker 1: and conditioning program. Very good for him, has been here
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Speaker 1: a long time and has definitely planned roots and I
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Speaker 1: think looking at social media you see just the outpour
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Speaker 1: from the players supporting him getting this position, which that's
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Speaker 1: when you know, is when these players know him so well,
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Speaker 1: and you could see how truly happy they due. And
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Speaker 1: he really he has been his time behind tom Icelinsky
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Speaker 1: all these ures and and learned from him. Um it
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Speaker 1: may seem a strength coach, everyone's got one. He's a
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Speaker 1: really good one well, and nobody knows players. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: position coaches, head coach coordinators. Nobody knows players like the
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Speaker 1: strength guy, because that's where you can't fake it when
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Speaker 1: you go in there. I mean, uh, when I was
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Speaker 1: with the Colts, I used to walk back and I
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Speaker 1: knew the strength guy very well, and I'd say, tell
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Speaker 1: me who can play, who can't? Who cares about this?
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Speaker 1: Who who doesn't? Who's gonna make it, and he was
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Speaker 1: gen well, who's going to be the real guy? Micelisky
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Speaker 1: was always that way, and then last year the other
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Speaker 1: guy comes in, so you know, said's a guy that
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Speaker 1: you can stand and talk to. Yeah, he's a really
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Speaker 1: good guy. And it makes sense because he's the one
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Speaker 1: seeing right now. For example, who's in here in March?
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Speaker 1: Who's here every day? And what time are they here
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Speaker 1: in Southern Yeah? Yeah, Southern miss Hall of fame already
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Speaker 1: And it was a fourth round pick back in two
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Speaker 1: thousand one. And I had a little time in the
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Speaker 1: NFL Europe as well, but here for about a decade
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Speaker 1: or so. And congratulations to him. That's coming up tomorrow
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock on Jaguars dot com. Brian, are you nervous
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Speaker 1: for tonight? Kansas North Carolina? No, this is our year.
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Speaker 1: It's all over again. Some of the really good teams
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Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh with Charles Smith, remember Jerome Lane who shattered
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Speaker 1: the backboard during the tournament, and Will Perdue was a
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Speaker 1: starting center for it would have been so you wouldn't
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Speaker 1: remember that that was my freshman year of Kansas and
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Speaker 1: and these teams. It was Danny Manning and the miracles
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Speaker 1: that year because it was just Danny Manning and they
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Speaker 1: were an eighth seed and they won it all in
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Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, I know, no Charny and you got
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Speaker 1: instead of Danny in the Miracles, it could be uh
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Speaker 1: Manic Brady Mannek in the Miracles because they were a
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Speaker 1: they were bubble team six weeks ago and now here
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Speaker 1: they are one of the hottest teams out there. Really excited, UM,
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Speaker 1: but I do believe that this is our year. I
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Speaker 1: thought you were supposed to be going to this game.
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Speaker 1: What happened when Coach k got into this um and
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Speaker 1: it was his last dance? Uh, tickets in the upper
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Speaker 1: deck at the Superdome. We're going for twelve hundred dollars.
15:37
Speaker 1: Have you been to a Final four the Superdome? I have?
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Speaker 1: And the upper deck is a terrible posting football. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't about to do that. And um, so it
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Speaker 1: was kids coach kase fault. Yes, thanks a lot, Coach K.
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Speaker 1: I know you're listening. I haven't watched a game the
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Speaker 1: college basketball game in forever. I watched that Duke Carolina
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Speaker 1: gay and it was a great game. That was about
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Speaker 1: as good a sports theater as you're ever gonna say,
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Speaker 1: can get you just incredible one? It will be a
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Speaker 1: bit of perspective. Um. So the first coach of Kansas
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Speaker 1: a guy named James Nay Smith. Tradition, Yeah yeah, something
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Speaker 1: like that. But what people might not know is that
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Speaker 1: Dean Smith, who built the great Carolina tradition, took it
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Speaker 1: to another level, played for Fawgallen at Kansas, and then
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Speaker 1: Roy Williams, who was with Dean Smith, went and coach
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Speaker 1: to Kansas. So there's a lot of ties between Carolina
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Speaker 1: and Kansas, so it would be fun. Has been getting
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Speaker 1: a lot of screen time in the Final four and
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Speaker 1: in the tournament, and he certainly will tonight three for
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Speaker 1: unc NA. Yeah yeah, he lost two championship games in Kansas,
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Speaker 1: so good sat on. It has no relevance tonight, but
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the games and much of the lock
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Speaker 1: is Brian it is. It's also Masters week, Tiger watches underway,
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Speaker 1: and he has up until tea time Thursday to figure
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Speaker 1: out if he wants to play or not. There's no rules.
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Speaker 1: Augusta National has their own deals, so there'll be a
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Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs watching that this week as well. That'll
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