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Don't talk about Palestine! 🇵🇸 · After Maghrib 🌙

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Brothers, Sister Salaam Alaikum and welcome back to another
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episode on the aftermath of podcast The Late Night Buzz, a
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platform where we have serious conversations and today is no
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different. The ongoing humanitarian crisis
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unfolding in front of our eyes in the Middle East no doubt is
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on everyone's minds. It's a discussion we wish to
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have, and before I delve into this conversation, I'd like to,
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as always, welcome my Co host, Salaam Alaikum Ahmed.
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Like what? Salaam said.
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How are you keeping? I'm well, but I'm not content at
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the moment with how life is going with the things that I'm
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seeing around the world. What about yourself?
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Yeah, I think I can agree. I think it's a grave time for
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not only our community or the Muslim or my large, but I think
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for the entire world. It's a place where the human.
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Is now facing a moment of decision making, a defining
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moral moments in present history.
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And we have the chance to to understand an issue which is
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deep rooted in recent history and it's gone back for decades
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and to ultimately stand on the side of truth and and stand up
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for those who are being oppressed.
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Obviously this is a very sensitive conversation.
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And before we begin, I think it's important just to make a
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note to everyone who's watching and listening at home that
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inshallah we conduct this conversation with respect, with
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understanding and with consciousness, that we have
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listeners from different areas of the world, different
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religions, different backgrounds, communities and
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demographics. And of course, there are things
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we can talk about and there are also things we're not permitted
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to talk about. So please bear that in mind.
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Please understand that from a community perspective, we will
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do our best insha Allah. And we are recording this on
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Tuesday the 17th of October. So everything and anything we
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discuss is our own opinion and it's as of today.
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So yeah, I mean to say this is obviously something we've talked
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about on Instagram for a while. We've been sharing a lot of
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content. We've been engaging with the
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audience. We've had dozens of people get
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in touch, sending talking points for today's conversation,
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sending questions. But why are we having this
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conversation? Because there are people who are
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not. You're also a good question.
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I like how you mentioned that we have been, you know, sharing
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things on our stories, on Instagram, etcetera, because I
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have never seen so much people, you know, have an opinion on a
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subject like Palestine. And to be honest, I wouldn't say
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that's the reason we're having this conversation.
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It's because of that, if I can be honest and frank with you,
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before we even thought about, you know, having this discussion
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today, we were like, you know, let's discuss Palestine.
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And I think I said I want to discuss Palestine because I felt
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like it's, it meant something to me as a Muslim.
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But someone who, you know, has hope and humanity that the world
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becomes a better, a better place inshallah.
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That's the ultimate, ultimate goal that we all inshallah
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aspire to see one day. But I think more importantly,
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the reason that we're going to have this discussion today is
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that because we can't stay silent for the rest of our lives
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if we see something like oppression happening around the
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world. And you know, we always hear if
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there's one arm of the Muslim ummah that's hurt, the entire
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Muslim is hurt, the entire Muslim ummah is hurt.
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And I think that's the emotion, emotional side speaking here.
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But ultimately, why are we having this conversation that
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that's, that's my emotion speaking, but why should we have
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this? Yeah, that hadith you mentioned
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is very important. The Holy Prophet, Muhammad
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Sallallahu alayhi wasallam says that if the Muslim almost like a
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body, and if an area of the body is affected, the whole night
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will stay. The whole body will stay awake
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at night as if it has a fever. If you have a Palestine fever or
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if you have a weather fever or a Kashmiri fever or a Yemeni
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fever, and you feel the plight of people, oppressed Muslims
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around the world. Then you are one of them.
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What Menin according to the Hadith and sha Allah and Allah
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will accept you as such. But it's important to say
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because without trying to get political and there is a
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political element to this conversation.
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But we're we are not political experts or or analysts, so we're
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not going to delve into the politics and we have to make
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that clear. But there is an absolute
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humanitarian crisis, like you said, unfolding before our eyes.
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A genocide. Where you have an occupier and
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an an occupied population and what's been happening over the
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last specifically 10/11/12 days, perhaps by the time you're
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listening to this conversation or even more is, is
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heartbreaking. It's truly heartbreaking.
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At the point of recording, over 3300 people have been killed in
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the occupied lands of Gaza. Also in the West Bank, but more
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so in Gaza. One hour before coming to the
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studio today, we heard that an Ali Baptist hospital was
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targeted in a blast. 500 civilians were killed.
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There are 5500 pregnant women in Palestine right now who are due
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to give birth this month. This month and there's 50,000
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pregnant women across Palestine. Where are they going to get
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their health care from? Where are they going to get
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access to doctors when hospitals are being blown up?
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Where are they going to get access to water when water,
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fuel, food, electricity is being cut off?
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Where are Palestinians going to find shelter and safety when
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over a million people have been asked to evacuate, evacuate
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their homelands and move to another area?
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And that forced evacuation is in some sense, as the World Health
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Organization said, is a death sentence to people because
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people who are sick on hospital beds, they have no choice.
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They stay there at risk of dying because they're already unwell,
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they're already injured, they're already targeted.
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And if they leave, they lose the access to health care and
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they're also at risk of death. So it is a tragic situation.
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And there are Muslims that are Shia, in particular, a minority
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I have to say. Who are either silent or
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reluctant to discuss this and it's it's disappointing.
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Why do you think they're silent? Can I ask?
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Because I've seen posts and I've seen like, people come out and
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say, you know what, Why are you quiet?
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Why are you not speaking? Why you not, you know, giving a
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voice to the Palestinians? Why do people?
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Ask that bro, I really don't know.
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I I really can't get my head around it.
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Like like what sort of person do you have to be to not feel pain?
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When you see a child like Wadir, who's the young boy in Chicago
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who was 26 times yesterday by his landlord because he said
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he's a Palestinian, and if I could stop one more Palestinian
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from growing up, I will do that. What sort of person do you have
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to be to look at that and not feel pain like a six year old, a
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six year old boy? How can you find 26 places to to
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attack? I don't like it mentioning it
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because it breaks my heart. Like, or when you see the video
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which came out today, I don't know if you saw, there's that
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young boy wearing a Ronaldo shirt, Do you see that Ronaldo
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football kit? And he's crying and he's
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heartbroken. He's like, I was playing
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football with my baby nephew. He's like the bull rolled under
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a car. I went to grab the ball, he goes
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there, there, there was a blast. He goes, my nephew, his back is
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injured, he said. My friend, his head exploded and
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bro, it was so. Heartbreaking to hear that.
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It was so heartbreaking. And you think that a last one to
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Allah has given a divine test to these people and also a test to
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us in how we respond. So your question as to why
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people are silent, I don't know. You know, there's that saying of
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Malcolm X. It's like something along the
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lines I'll I'll find it. It's like.
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It's more, it's not the the, the words of your enemies which
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hurt, but more the silence of your friends.
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And that's what's disappointing. When we see freedom fighters and
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we see people who are, I say freedom fighters in the sense of
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ideologically, people who talk about freedom and civil rights
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and justice are sometimes selective when it comes to
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choosing who they speak up for. That's disappointing, but I
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would rather not do that. I'd rather thank the people and
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and and commend the people. Who are talking about
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humanitarian issues and who are talking about oppression?
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Because that's the real issue here.
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Yeah, I I agree with you there. But I I just want to say one
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thing though. And I, and I think it's
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important that when you see your friend or if you see your
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neighbour or even a family member, that's not, let's say,
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you know, raising awareness about what's happening in
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Palestine and the occupied lands of Palestine is don't bully them
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or intimidate them, rather encourage them.
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Yeah. And I I think if we take that
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approach where I think people are encouraged to raise
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awareness, I think, I think it will do magic.
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Yeah, it'll be magical when imagine the entire community
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comes together and raise awareness about what's happening
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now in Palestine rather than why are you not, you are this, you
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are that. And I think if we take that
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approach, I think people will not even think twice.
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And this is not a religious issue.
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It's not. It's.
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Not it's not a political issue really in its core it's a human
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issue and we're talking about people who are oppressed and.
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Yes, there are 1.7 billion Muslims around the world.
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But you don't have to be a Muslim to understand that there
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are people who are suffering and people around the world are
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coming together and using their voices and they're using their,
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their, their, their networks, they're using their resources to
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speak up. And that's what's exactly what
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should be done. You know, people should be using
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their voices, you know, in Charlotte today we'll try and
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talk about. Ways in which people can make a
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difference, Ways in which people can stand up for the oppressed
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and ways in which people can understand the the issue A bit
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deeper. But maybe a good place to start
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saying is trying to understand the origin of of all of this.
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Not so much in the historical sense, although we can talk
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about the history. But what's important to note
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because obviously this is not an issue which has been going on
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for for 10/12/14 days. It's going on for a long time,
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isn't it? It's been going on for many,
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many years, 10s of years, way before I was even born.
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And and you know, Palestine is not something that I'm not
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familiar with because I remember as a kid, I think I was even 9
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or 10 years old at the time, was my first time seeing a little
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boy getting shot, a little boy getting shot.
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And I was like what, 9 or 10? And already in my mind was like
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something is not right, something was wrong.
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Hamad Adora, I am I. Am Hamad Adora and that famous
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picture of his father. Shielding him?
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Yes, yes, yes. And his father, Jamal Adora, who
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believe it or not, also lost his two other sons this week.
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Yeah. And I and I saw there was a
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video that's doing the rounds of him.
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And you know, he even touches about Karbala, talks about Imam
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Ali Hussein when he speaks about his sons and the situation in
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Palestine. But just before I even go into
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the history, let's say of the history, I just want to go back
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to the silencing, if I can say to that point where it's not
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even just us. I think the most deafening
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silence, where the world doesn't talk about it, where you know,
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people don't mind coming out straight away, which I don't, I
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don't care. Condemn Hamas all you want, but
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you have to condemn the other side.
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You know, when there's innocent civilians.
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At this time, we're talking about harmony.
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You said the statistic. What was the?
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Number over 3000 / 3000. Over 1010 thousand injured,
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10,000 injured. So many.
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So many. And what's sad about this whole
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catastrophe is what in Palestine, in this Raza, maybe
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we're going to call it Gaza. Is Raza the correct
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pronunciation? They don't even have bulldozers
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or diggies and things to take people out of the rubble, bro.
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They're using their hands and they're saying there are
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thousands under the rubble they haven't been able to reach.
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So you know it, it didn't start last week or it didn't start two
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weeks ago. It didn't start on the 7th of
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October. It started in the early 1900s.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm coming. I mean, the history goes back
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to. If I'm not mistaken, 1918 and
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when we talk about the early 1900s with the Balfour
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Declaration, we talk about the gradual colonial colonialization
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of Gaza or Palestine in general, it's it's it comes back to the
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conversation of apartheid and colonization.
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The colonization at play is is really no different to
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colonization we see in other parts of the world.
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See colonization across the Middle East.
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We've seen colonisation of the subcontinent, we've seen
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colonisation in Oceania and Australasia, we've seen
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colonisation Africa. We've seen colonisation North
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America. We've seen colonisation in South
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America. We've seen colonisation to
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degrees in Europe. Where in the world has there not
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been traces of colonisation? And we are now children,
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diaspora, children of colonised people who are witnessing the
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plight of of the Palestinians and we are are recognising this
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is. Very similar to many of the
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cases we've seen in the past and many times in the past, we have.
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Well, I say we I'm saying that the world has oppressed the
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people and then hundreds of years later stood on the same
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land where indigenous people have stood and said, oh, here's
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a Memorial Day for the indigenous people of this land
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who were butchered or who were mass genocidely killed.
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Hundreds of years ago. And we have Memorial Day.
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No, we can stop that from happening right now, you know,
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because there's a genocide at play right now.
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Do you see what I mean? So from the early 1900s up until
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1947, where the State of Israel was created OK legally and the
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gradual growth of illegal settlements in Palestinian land
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is one thing. But obviously there's a much
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deeper issue and that is the allowance or the enabling of
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such an occupation to take place, that illegal occupation
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to take place when you've got people from Mandela to Desmond
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Tutu who've stood up and called this an apartheid state and
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we're talking about South Africans who recognise what
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apartheid state is. When you have civil rights
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leaders across the 20th and the 21st centuries who've been
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talking about this issue, it becomes a globally accepted
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issue. It's not a political issue
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today. It's a globally accepted
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humanitarian issue over 100 years.
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So this is something important to note because a lot of the
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time as a community, everyone says put your hands together and
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make da ah OK yes, 1000% da Ah is the weapon of the believer.
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On last month, all I tell Santalia, Quran, Remember Me and
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I'll remember you. He tells us that come to me and
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da. I will respond to your DA, Yeah.
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Like you will not. Your DA will not be as impactful
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if you don't know what you're praying for.
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Like if you don't know the root of the issue, you're just
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praying for, for what you see today.
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Well, the sad thing, and you know what I think in my opinion
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is what's paved the way for this, this endless occupation,
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if we can call it this endless apartheid system that that
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exists in the state of Israel and in occupied lands, is that,
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you know, this deafening silence that I mentioned earlier is that
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people don't say nothing. People don't care.
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It's become normal. And right now I was thinking
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earlier today, I was genuinely thinking when I, you know, was
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reflecting on, you know, them being blocked access to drinking
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water and the Reza, for example. I was thinking, you know what?
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You know, we feed animals in London Zoo.
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We ensure that the animals in the cages, they get fed
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properly. The one looked after the you
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know, the nutrition is up to date.
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They ensure the water intake is up to date, but no one cares
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about a Palestinian so why feel the world they don't give a
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flying monkey about a Palestinian?
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If I'm honest, I'll use other words, but I have to use this
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word on the podcast is that. And it's sad for me to even
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compare the two. The life of a Palestinian at the
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moment and the eyes of the Western world, I'm going to be
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as frank as it is, is worth less than the animals in London Zoo.
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That's the stage we've reached and that's because of this
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deafening silence that's been allowed to continue.
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It's become a statistic, so it's become a numbers game.
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You're desensitized. So when it becomes, and I
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apologize for comparing that. Yeah.
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And I do not want to do that, but I'm just trying to say how
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real the situation they are. Facing Bro When you talk about
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people wiped off the face of the earth like as things stand 47.
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Palestinian families have been wiped off the the Palestinian
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Health Ministries register. And by the way, when they say
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families, they're not talking about 2-3 siblings, Mama and
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dad, not an entire generation. Entire Ashira videos.
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A whole tribe. Ashira, a surname, wiped off the
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face of the earth. 47 families. And when you talk about 47
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families and we're talking about Middle Eastern Palestinian
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families, which likely have 10-15 people per family in on
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average, you know, with nephews and cousins and sons and
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daughters and all of. That you're talking about
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hundreds of people who've been wiped off the face of the earth.
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Their heritage, their DNA, has been erased forever.
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And when you say 47 families, or if you're to say 57 or 37, are
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we more moved or less moved? No, not not as much as we should
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be. Because statistics don't always
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tell a story. They might tell a story when
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you're understanding. You know, the the, the tides at
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play, but not really when it comes to dictating or guiding
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your emotional direction. All right.
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I just want to make it clear because of course there are
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people who have suffered in this conflict in in, and I'm going to
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be very honest with you and I know I'm going to get a heat for
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this, but on both sides who have been killed.
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OK. And it is civilians.
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Civilians, it's civilian lives which have been lost, and it's
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civilian lives and harm to civilians is against
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international law. It's against the Geneva
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Convention and it's against Islamic law.
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OK, so. And it's against.
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It's against Judaic law as well. So this is filk according to
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Judaism, according to Islam, these are, these are
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obligations. They are Jewish prudential
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obligations on Muslims and Jews. And on top of that as well on
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the international scene. This is illegal.
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All right, so. A life lost is a life lost.
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The Holy Quran tells us that killing one person is equivalent
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to killing the entire of humanity.
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All right, so any life lost is a human life lost is a travesty.
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It's one less person that has the opportunity to turn back to
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Allah spinal to Allah. In the normal state of death,
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which should be the case, no one should be killed on this planet.
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No one should be killed and. And no one should be killed,
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especially unfairly, unjustly. OK, but we're talking about a
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situation now in Gaza where every 4 to 5 minutes people are
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dying. So if you do the maths, every
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hour 14 Palestinians have been killed, 14 Palestinians have
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been killed. That means, on average, since
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this conflict began last week, Saturday, every 4 to 5 minutes,
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someone has killed. And that stat might have gone up
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by now. By the time you're listening to
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this in Charlotte doesn't in Charlotte goes down.
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But what sort of world do we have to live in where someone is
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being killed? And we're not talking about any
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population. We're talking about the world's
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most condensed area. We're talking about the largest
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open air prison in the world. We're talking about a place
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where 70% of people are refugees, 40 to 50% of people
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are children. That means if you're talking
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about someone dying every 4 to 5 minutes.
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On average you're talking about a child being killed every 8
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minutes or 9 minutes. Do you see what I mean?
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Like that is not normal bro, that we're talking about 5 year
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olds and six year olds and we've got people who are saying, oh
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aren't, aren't the Palestinians anti Shia?
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Do you know how much that annoys?
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Me. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Do you know how much that annoys me?
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Like, I'm sorry, but we're talking about kids here.
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We're talking about children. We're talking about people who
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are innocent. So.
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Like that really, really frustrates me.
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Oh, and you know, knowing that there are babies, infants,
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newborns, mothers, innocent civilians, all these people.
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And and you know, the worst thing.
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And I and I and I think was even more sad, you know, and I spoke
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about the water thing earlier. Is that OK, let's say there's no
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drinking water. And now what happens to the
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mother who's nursing her infant? How, How is she able to nurse
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that infant? Who he needs to survive.
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He needs to, he needs to get nursed.
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There's no other thing. And that's the one thing that
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took me to to. I wouldn't compare it 100%, but
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it took me, bro. It took me to the plains of
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Karbala where we remember, you know, Hazrat Ali Al Azrar, where
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he was unable to be nursed because there was no water.
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Yeah. When you say the Shias, people
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say you know they say Shias should not stand for Palestine.
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No, this is a minority. They say Shias should not stand.
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No, no, they say this out loud. I've heard.
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I've read. Twitter, that is.
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That's not a majority. It's not the majority of voices.
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That's right. But then you do have these
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pockets who sadly their voice is amplified.
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And people like to share their their their opinions around the
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world where they say Shiite. I shouldn't stand for Palestine
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because Palestinians, they do what they kill.
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The Shiite Palestinians are Nawasa Palestinians.
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They don't love the Ehrlbait. Palestinians have been bombing
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us in Iraq and Surya, all of these things.
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No problem. Habibi.
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Well, that's a very small minority, yeah.
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The majority of Palestinians bro, they believe in La Ilaha,
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Muhammad, Rasul, Allah and they have love and respect for their.
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They are, they are. They are Shia in Palestine and
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even if they were not they are part of the Ummah.
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They are our our brothers and sisters and that should not be
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forgotten. And a child is a child and an
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innocent civilian is an innocent civilian And someone who has
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been their life has been taken unjustly.
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They didn't have the chance to to reconcile ideologically with
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with other Muslims. Do you see what I mean?
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Like their life has been cut short.
22:17
Early, earlier than their, their initial predestined natural
22:22
death. And by the way, there's this
22:23
thing about these Palestinians normally stems from Iraqis.
22:26
And I'll be very honest, why? Because, you know, we did face
22:28
stuff. Yeah, I know.
22:29
Yeah, there's there's no denying that and there is no denying
22:32
that. Yes, Palestinians, people of
22:34
Palestinian nationality did come to Iraq and, you know, do the
22:37
suicide bombing and things like that, that did happen.
22:39
But they need to remember Iraqis did that too.
22:42
Other nationalities, nationalities did that too.
22:44
So it wasn't just the Palestinians.
22:46
And it's really unfair to say to a Shia that the Shia I shouldn't
22:50
stand up for Palestine because that's not the ahlak of Rasul
22:53
Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Salam. It's not the Ahlak of Imam Ali
22:57
Ali Salam and it's definitely not the ahlak of Imam and Mehdi
23:00
Ali. Because we know wherever there
23:03
is oppression #1, Allah is with them.
23:06
Allah is with them wherever they are any oppression, be it Muslim
23:08
or non-muslim. When someone is facing
23:10
oppression, Allah is with them. And we know Imam Ali Jalaat Al
23:13
Faraja Sharif when he returns there's a reason for his return.
23:17
And what's that reason is that when we know what the world is
23:20
filled with, injustice and tyranny, inshallah He's He's
23:23
here to return, to restore justice and equality and
23:26
everything. And this is something we yearn.
23:29
We hope and inshallah we live to see that and we live to see a
23:33
world where you know, the Shia Adu represents Muhammad Wani
23:38
Muhammad for what we truly are. And that's we look, look after
23:41
everyone, not just Shia, not just lovers of Imam Ali, not
23:45
just lovers of Imam and Hussein, but the entire world, whether
23:47
Muslim, Christian, Jew or someone who doesn't even believe
23:50
in God. We have to look after them from
23:52
a humanitarian perspective. Because Imam Ali Ali Salaam says
23:56
a brother's either a person's either your brother in faith or
23:59
your equal humanity and this is a humanitarian crisis.
24:02
It is I sent, I sent you know there's.
24:06
Like there's a lot of things that we need to be aware of, and
24:10
I think it's important for us to talk about what can be done.
24:12
A lot of people have sent in questions asking about what what
24:15
we can do, what we can do. There's a few things I want to I
24:18
want to mention here actually, before we get into that.
24:21
I want to save that what we can do as a solution or?
24:24
But we'll come to that because I I want to highlight mass.
24:28
Hypocrisy. God, we're seeing, OK, double
24:31
standards. Double standards everywhere we
24:33
look, unfortunately OK double standards in the Western media,
24:37
double standards on social media, double standards by local
24:40
politicians and by international politicians.
24:42
We have seen misinformation spread and accepted and not just
24:47
accepted, propagated. En masse, yeah, yeah, it's on
24:52
newspapers as well, yeah. By by, by politicians,
24:55
journalists and organisations from the east to the West.
24:58
OK, I'm talking about Ben Shapiro.
25:01
If you ever watch this, you are unfortunately not a not a not a
25:06
good person. This guy has no heart.
25:08
Bro Ben Shapiro, who tweeted out an AI generated image of a burnt
25:13
child and said, you know, blamed the the Palestinian people.
25:17
I I'm not. I don't want to get into the
25:18
politics like I mentioned. But using AI images for
25:22
propaganda is not the first time we've seen that there's a war
25:25
machine that's going on here, major news outlets talking about
25:29
40 babies. Well, unfortunately, that was
25:31
never verified, even that President Biden said that and
25:34
they retracted the statement. Yeah, the White House had to
25:36
come and say it's not verified. Exactly.
25:38
We've seen the same statement happen in the UK.
25:40
We've seen it printed over main mainstream tabloids in the UK.
25:43
And of course, apologies and retractions because these things
25:47
are not verified where what is verified is the at present 754
25:52
babies which have been killed, children have been killed in
25:54
Palestine as of right now. You know, the date we're
25:57
recording. And it's not just a statistic
25:59
coming out of Palestine. No, our eyes have seen the
26:01
images and our our eyes have seen the actual videos of the
26:05
masochism of the genocide that's taking place.
26:07
But but look when I talk about hypocrisy and misinformation.
26:12
All I want to say is that has existed before.
26:15
It's existed in the past. It's existed in the racial
26:18
struggles of African Americans. It's existed in.
26:21
For example, we talked about the South African apartheid.
26:24
It's existed in the UK. When it talks about the right
26:27
for women's voting, it's existed in different forms of oppression
26:31
which have taken place on different corners and different
26:34
corners of the world. All right, but what I really
26:37
want to mention is about the the individual responsibility to
26:40
share accurate information. Brother sisters, if you hear
26:44
something online or you see something online, please go and
26:47
verify it. Go and check where the source of
26:49
information is. Find out what you're what you're
26:51
hearing or what you're listening to and understand if it's true
26:54
or not. There are people who have come
26:56
out and said there has there has never been an an attempt to find
27:00
sovereignty for the Palestinians in a non violent manner.
27:05
The Great Return March, which took place a few years ago.
27:08
For one year, Palestinians marched without arms, without
27:11
violence. Yeah, without arms, without
27:14
violence. To stand, you know, to find
27:16
peace and to find independence. Razan Abu Najaal, a young medic,
27:20
2223 years old girl was killed treating the wounds of people
27:24
who were injured in that conflict.
27:26
Ibrahim Abu Fariah. This guy was a martyr Shaheed,
27:30
who who lost all his limbs in 2014 bombings.
27:35
He then went to the March five years later.
27:38
He was holding a flag with whichever limbs he has left, and
27:41
he was martyred there. Rachel Corey, an American
27:48
Caucasian white young journalist girl, not Muslim, travelled to
27:53
Palestine, was run over by an Israeli bulldozer.
27:58
Now the reason I'm saying this. Is because there has to be
28:02
something which strikes people to understand that this is a
28:06
crisis which is beyond Islam, Judaism, or people of politics
28:10
and governments. This is a question of Huck and
28:13
Barbin. This is a question of right and
28:15
wrong. Never has it been more clearly
28:17
understood or evident for our eyes to see that innocent people
28:21
are being killed, regardless of where they're from.
28:24
You know, Shereen Abu Aklar, who's the Al Jazeera reporter
28:28
who was killed? She wasn't.
28:29
She's a Palestinian. She wasn't a Muslim.
28:31
She was, she was she. She was killed.
28:34
And at her funeral procession, the people who are carrying her
28:37
coffin were attacked as well. All on video.
28:40
And my my point is, is that when, when we live in a world
28:43
where at present 50 media organisations have been
28:48
targeted, you know, we're talking about the likes of.
28:50
Associated Press, AP, Al Jazeera, Al Mahan.
28:54
There are so many other media organisations, if I remember
28:56
correctly, which had been targeted.
28:58
You know, 11 journalists have been killed so far.
29:01
Fake news will always be rampant.
29:03
But it's it's incumbent upon us as Muslims to always verify
29:07
before we hear anything we treat.
29:09
You know, we we have that methodology when it comes to
29:11
hadith like oh, is this hadith authentic?
29:14
Is it Sahir? We have to check all the source.
29:16
But when it comes to mainstream news, we don't apply the same
29:19
logic. So there's there are double
29:21
standards at play here. And there's double standards
29:23
that we see in the media. There's no joke.
29:26
Yeah. And when we read headlines and
29:28
when we see, you know, the way some articles are presented, the
29:31
way some, you know, the the the what, what the presenters
29:34
narrates while they're, you know, trying to say this is
29:37
what's happening. Yeah.
29:39
There's certain ways of how they word things wrote shocking.
29:42
Yeah, I know. When I saw, for example, you
29:44
know, when there was Israelis that died, they said the
29:48
Israelis were killed. When the Palestinians were
29:53
killed, they said, the Palestinians died.
29:56
Treated by Sky News BBC as well. And the most shocking thing as
30:00
well that I came across today that I saw was the apology.
30:02
Finally the BBC came out to apologize and although I think
30:06
it's too late where they said, you know, on the weekend when
30:09
there was, you know the mass protests, pro Palestine protest
30:13
that was happening. They said it was a pro terrorist
30:15
protest. Yeah, they said what?
30:16
What did they say? I was shocked when I heard it.
30:19
I was like, they were like Rishi Sunak went to a Jewish school in
30:23
the morning to what, stand with the Jewish community?
30:27
No problem or what? What did the presenter say?
30:30
And because of that go what? And listen to the words.
30:33
And because of that what Rishi Sunak did.
30:36
A pro Palestinian March went out in protest of pro Hamas.
30:43
Then they have to retract that and then said, and now and
30:45
here's the weather anyway, not to make honor of it, but this is
30:50
how serious it is. And people who watch the news
30:52
and they have no other source of information apart from the BBC
30:56
or from Sky News or CNN or whatever channels that they
30:58
watch. When it's one sided, when it's
31:02
all biased towards 1. Government, of course you're
31:05
going to grow up thinking you know what, everyone's a
31:07
terrorist. Everyone's everyone wants to
31:10
kill you. The whole world's against you.
31:11
This war is is US visa free world for example.
31:15
When in reality if if they remove the double standards and
31:17
they remove the bias and the reporter for what?
31:20
What it really, truly is bro you can report it very nicely.
31:23
You know, occupied Palestine, apartheid, genocide.
31:28
You can mention all these things freely, but the moment you take
31:31
that one side, you deny the Palestinians a voice.
31:35
And it's not a voice that just random came out.
31:38
No, bro, they have a right for this.
31:39
This is their land. This is their home.
31:42
And I'm shocked that you can be a refugee in your own land.
31:45
This is something I don't understand.
31:46
No, you're right. Yeah.
31:47
I mean there's there's there's so much intensity here, you know
31:51
Dominic Allen, who is the UNFP as ambassador or representative
31:57
of Palestine. Continue to talk about the
31:59
humanitarian side. He said that the healthcare
32:02
system there is on the verge of collapse.
32:05
Yeah, 20 ambulances have been targeted.
32:08
We talked about the hospital, which of course was destroyed,
32:11
blasted today. And this tragic news where
32:15
hundreds of people have died, estimated 500, perhaps even
32:18
more. All in all, it kind of begs the
32:21
question, what now? OK, I, with your permission said
32:25
I want to kind of give a a short bullet point list of what I
32:28
think we need to do and then we can discuss and expand on it.
32:32
The first thing we need to do is dot R dot R is an action plan.
32:36
dot R is what we should wake up in the morning and do and before
32:39
we go to sleep we do. Now it's very easy to say make
32:41
dot R We all make dot R Do we do enough?
32:44
Probably not. Do we do it correctly?
32:45
Probably not. Make dot R Use your dot R as a
32:49
springboard to then do other things.
32:51
Pray to all. Aspire to Allah to give you the
32:52
strength and knowledge to make a difference.
32:55
Then look for that strength and knowledge.
32:56
It doesn't end there. Educate yourself.
32:59
What is the Geneva Convention? Who does it apply to?
33:01
What is a war crime? What does it mean?
33:03
What are international human rights laws and how are they
33:07
imposed on different countries? That's the second thing.
33:11
The third thing, have conversations when you hear
33:14
people who are talking about this situation and in a way you
33:18
don't agree with it. Bring it down to a level they
33:20
understand. If you own a house, if you own a
33:24
piece of land and your family's lived there for hundreds of
33:26
years and someone comes in one day and says I have a right to
33:30
be here, because I believe I have a right to be here, and
33:33
because my my MyHeritage and my textual heritage says I do, so
33:39
let me have a piece of your land.
33:41
That analogy will mean more to people because it's more
33:44
relatable than understanding the actual conflict at large.
33:47
So have that conversation. Bring it down to the people.
33:49
Don't get angry with people, don't use violence with people.
33:51
We are people who are not violent by nature, so don't use
33:56
violence. Use the right approach when you
33:58
speak to people. Another thing understand the
34:01
religious atheidi connotations that come with the the lands of
34:07
Palestine. And also the the concept of
34:10
tyranny and oppression, but also colonization, You know, sort of
34:13
Shotara. When alas Mandala talks about
34:15
the story of Nabi Musa Alayhi Salam, he says Musa Alayhi
34:19
Salaam. When he returned to Faraon, he
34:22
returned to Faraon. And Faraon used a very smart
34:25
propaganda colonial tactic. He said are we not the people
34:30
who raised you in our house as our own children?
34:32
He tells Nabi Musa alayh Salaam. This is similar to a colonizer's
34:36
mentality. I gave you.
34:38
I gave you employment. I gave you rights.
34:41
I gave you. Do you know what I mean?
34:42
There'll be more Salah Islam. What does he do?
34:44
He speaks up. He says you have enslaved my
34:46
people. Use your voices, brother,
34:48
sisters. We are Husseinis.
34:51
That means we do not sit down or remain quiet when there is
34:55
oppression. We are not going to be complicit
35:00
in oppression. We will not remain silent like
35:03
the ones who abandoned Hazrat Muslim in Kufa, or the ones who
35:07
abandoned Islam in Karbala, or the ones who abandoned the
35:10
minimum, or the ones who abandoned us, Allah, Muhammad,
35:12
Sallallahu. There are countless examples in
35:16
our history of people who have stood up, said something, and
35:20
not thought about the repercussions on their own
35:23
comfort and their personal lifestyle, but have been able to
35:26
say something for the greater good.
35:28
Because when you make a sacrifice, Allah will elevate
35:30
you. In the in the Akala.
35:32
So I think it's really important we take these forward.
35:35
We educate ourselves as Umar, we organise ourselves as Umar and
35:39
we are are able to respond when we see oppression.
35:43
There are other things which we can talk about but obviously we,
35:45
like we said, we don't want to get too political.
35:47
There are things like the the the boycott, divest and
35:49
sanctioning scheme where where you know you don't put money
35:53
towards certain organisations, but this is something we are not
35:56
expecting. We if you want to learn more
35:59
about it, there's a lot of stuff online.
36:00
But there is a lot we can do and we are Muslims first and
36:02
foremost, and Muslims are pro humanity and pro peace.
36:06
So it's very important to discuss that.
36:08
It's a nice perspective you gave as a Muslim for us inshallah to
36:11
implement and inshallah, you know, share with everyone else.
36:14
And if you're, you know, listening to the podcast now,
36:16
maybe this is something we can learn from and not just apply it
36:19
into Palestine, but any oppression that we see around
36:21
the world. But you know, also there has to
36:23
be a solution not just for Muslims because the the, the,
36:26
you know, the the real ocean. Palestine is not just Muslims
36:29
and it's definitely not Jews of these Muslims.
36:30
Then you just make that clear as well.
36:31
Jews are people of peace and they are brothers, Abrahamic
36:34
brothers. And you know, I, I I think there
36:36
is a simple solution in my opinion where let's say the
36:39
fighting ends at least, you know something happens where
36:42
civilians are you know, let's say protected and safe in in
36:46
that sense is number one. I think Israel needs to first,
36:49
first of all, accept that, you know, they need to give in to
36:56
the rightful demands of the Palestinians, whether it's, you
36:59
know, freedom in their land, whether it's, you know,
37:01
listening to the rights of Palestinians, telling them to
37:04
stop expanding your settlements into their land.
37:08
And I can't bear to see someone coming to my home, kicking me
37:11
out and saying now it's my home, bro, I'm going to go mad.
37:15
It doesn't work, especially, you know, you've got wife, you've
37:17
got kids that well you've been all your life you you've made
37:19
home, home and then someone else calls you home.
37:21
And there's certain things I think if you know, this is so
37:27
simply, I I don't even want to explain it because one shouldn't
37:30
even explain that my home is my home.
37:31
But my point is certain things that Israel needs to accept is
37:34
that Palestinians have rights. They have a right to freedom.
37:36
They have a right to live. They have a right to work, they
37:38
have a right to eat. They have a right to go to work
37:41
and earn a living. This is something they're very
37:43
restricted with and and and it's not just in in bro.
37:46
It's not just in the in the Reza, in the West Bank is in
37:49
Jerusalem. It happens everywhere.
37:51
I mean it's it's something to just let them live let them feel
37:55
like what it is to be a human being.
37:57
That's all I'm saying and if the solution no one wants to give up
38:00
land. I'm not saying do you have a
38:01
right to it. I'm not saying they have a right
38:02
to it. We all know who has the right to
38:04
the land. But if if no, if nothing is
38:06
going anywhere bro, just let people live.
38:09
You don't need to you know be the aggressor.
38:11
You don't need to be, you know, having a a situation where
38:15
you're fine with you as a government or fine with you as a
38:19
state or fine with you as people of Israel, citizens of Israel,
38:23
allowing the apartheid to continue.
38:25
It's not one that's not right. Yeah, and when you probably,
38:28
when you think of it like this as well, on a human level, I'm
38:31
talking. I'm not even talking politics.
38:33
I'm not even talking. And and and the the
38:35
recommendation for evacuation or or for example, Donald Trump
38:39
junior tweeted today, Why are no neighbouring states taking
38:43
refugees from Palestine? Because.
38:45
Accepting people from Palestine is legitimizing the fact that
38:48
people think that this is not Palestinian land, because the
38:51
minute Palestinians leave their land, they've given up their
38:54
'cause. Now, rightly or wrongly, it's a
38:57
legitimate argument. You can.
38:59
You can legitimately say. But I would rather stay where I
39:02
am and risk my life than I would to leave my life, to leave my
39:05
land and and live peacefully elsewhere.
39:07
Now, you as an individual might not do that.
39:09
You might have a different way of doing things.
39:11
And you'd say, oh, I'd rather save my family.
39:13
Look, we're not talking about what you would do.
39:15
We're talking about what is being done by the native, by the
39:17
indigenous Palestinians who are there right now.
39:19
OK. To add on, what you're saying is
39:23
100% right? And then on top of that saying
39:26
it's, it's important to understand that our calls are,
39:29
like you said, are for to end the occupation.
39:33
Because when the people in the protest say no justice, no
39:35
peace, means you will not find peace until there's justice for
39:38
the Palestinians. You know, secondly, we call for
39:42
corridors of human humanitarian aid to be brought into Palestine
39:46
and let the UN bring in aid if you if, if, if, no one else is
39:49
allowed to let the UN bring in aid, food, water, supplies when
39:54
water is. Is running out for over 2
39:57
million people in shelters. I was reading they're drinking
40:01
seawater at the moment. How can you humanly drink
40:03
seawater when you when you when water's running out for over 2
40:06
million peoples? Let there be a ceasefire, end
40:10
the violence call, call for peace and ceasefire and allow
40:15
humanitarian aid into civilian populations.
40:18
The UN says that. If you are an occupying state
40:21
like Israel is at the moment, then you have rights over the
40:24
the occupied population. One of those rights is basic
40:26
human rights and basic necessities like food and water
40:30
and fuel and electricity. So that's the 2nd and the third
40:32
thing we call for the first being end the occupation.
40:35
But at the bare minimum, immediately a ceasefire of
40:39
violence and corridors of humanitarian aid to come into
40:42
the State of Palestine, because without that people will die.
40:45
And if they're not dying from bombs, they're dying from
40:47
starvation. And if they're not dying from
40:49
starvation, they're dying from thirst.
40:50
And if they're not dying from thirst, they're dying from
40:52
trauma. And that is the the sad state of
40:55
affairs, because we are talking about generations of youth and
40:57
children who, if they survive this conflict, this bloody
41:01
conflict which is raged on for hundreds of years now, or at
41:05
least decades, at least 75 years, if that generation
41:09
survives, they will be traumatised psychologically for
41:12
the next 100 years. We have to stop this escalating
41:15
further than where it already is.
41:17
And unfortunately it's a it's in a very bad place.
41:21
And people, we need to come together.
41:23
We need to show solidarity with the oppressed people.
41:26
We need to show solidarity with people whose lives are at risks,
41:30
whose family being murdered and martyred.
41:33
And these are real human beings. Shamar Seidan.
41:37
This was a 12th grader in Palestine whose life was lost
41:40
this week. This girl scored 99.6% on her
41:45
12th grade exam. She was ranked number one in the
41:47
whole of Palestine for her marks in school.
41:50
She died this week. What would she have done with
41:52
her life? I read yesterday about a
41:54
reconstructive plastic surgeon who was from the UK who died
41:59
because of what he was there treating people who are in need.
42:02
We're talking about humanitarian aid workers.
42:04
We're talking about students. We're talking about journalists.
42:07
We're talking about babies and mothers.
42:09
We're talking about human beings.
42:10
We're not talking about people in the front lines, and that's
42:12
not our business. We're talking about people who
42:15
are innocent human beings. So look, we've talked a lot.
42:19
I think so. We've we've we've obviously
42:22
stepped into different areas but had these conversations once to
42:26
speak to your friends, speak to your families.
42:28
Engaging conversations with your peers, your colleagues at work,
42:32
your your classmates at school. Don't be shy to have the
42:35
conversation. What I would say one sisters is
42:38
don't be shy to have these conversations.
42:40
Don't feel afraid to have these conversations.
42:42
Speak to your classmates at school.
42:44
Speak to your colleagues at work.
42:46
It doesn't mean you have to go up to someone and ask them why
42:48
aren't you speaking about it? What are your views on it?
42:50
No. It means if you see injustice,
42:53
if you see a misrepresentation. Educate people, inform them,
42:57
have conversations and engage in forming a bond of
43:02
humanitarianism with people. Because whatever side of the
43:05
fence you sit on, you value human life.
43:07
You can be on any side of the fence, support any organization
43:12
or any government. You value human life, and if you
43:15
value human life for one side, you should value human life for
43:18
all sides. And if you don't, that is
43:20
hypocrisy. So ultimately, inshallah, this
43:22
is all. Like you said earlier said,
43:26
these are signs full of the hall of the Holy Imam and we pray
43:30
inshallah for his return. And we say to Arnold BA where is
43:32
the one who will come and end just end tyranny and oppression.
43:36
And we say, when, when will you see me and when will we you see,
43:40
when will we see you and when will you see us.
43:45
And and you know, when we say that to the awaited Imam, we we
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try to build that connection with our Imam.
43:53
Like this is a time more than ever that we're striving to
43:56
build a connection with IMAM. How we How do we do that?
43:58
There is a time you know, and just before we get into Imam and
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Mehdi Al Jallah al Farhi Sharif, I just want to echo what you
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said about silencing and don't be silent.
44:06
And you know, if we say we are from the Shia of Imam al Hussein
44:09
and we are from the lovers of the Ehlbait Alim al Salah Tiwa
44:12
Salam and we follow the footsteps of Rasul Allah, we
44:15
take Karbala as like our pinnacle or you know the that
44:20
where we learn the most lessons from that we can implement in
44:23
such scenarios and situations that we see today.
44:25
And Imam Hussein, Imam Hussein Ayes Salaam says something very
44:28
beautiful that we can learn from.
44:29
And he and he goes on to say the narration, those who are silent
44:32
when others are oppressed are guilty of oppression themselves.
44:36
Yeah. And we're not telling you, you
44:37
know, go, go say awe free Free Palestine, go jump up and down.
44:41
No one is saying that Relax, calm down, relax.
44:44
But if something comes up, a conversation does come up.
44:47
Stand up for the Palestinians. I'm not just Palestinians
44:50
oppression wherever it is like right now, you know, we've had
44:53
just in the last few days a bombing in Afghanistan on the
44:57
Shia. I haven't heard the single. 20
44:59
lives were lost. I haven't heard the single.
45:01
I've seen one Shia charities talk about it. 1 Shia charity.
45:04
I might be wrong. This is my point.
45:06
And don't just let emotion take you to a certain location around
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the world, not just rather oppression as a whole.
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I said Yemen, the most forgotten people in the world.
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Millions of people at famine 1/3 of the country risk of risk of
45:18
of death by famine. Since 2015 Yemen has suffered.
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The Yogas in in China who have suffered for years.
45:26
The Rohingya in Myanmar who have suffered for years like these
45:29
are populations. Kashmiri Muslims who have
45:32
suffered for years. You know where to even Sudanese
45:35
like there's the list is endless.
45:37
Forget even internationally even locally in your own post code
45:40
there are people who are homeless and sleeping on the
45:42
streets. You know, I was reading.
45:43
I was going back through some old posts.
45:44
Yesterday and I found an article which I shared like many years
45:48
ago, about a homeless guy who passed away next to my
45:52
university because of the winter cold.
45:55
And I remember how I felt on that day.
45:57
When I saw that post, it brought me back.
45:59
Remember like how heartbreaking it was because we were running a
46:01
homeless campaign in our university at that time.
46:04
And I'm thinking like to pan Allah as Muslims or just as
46:09
human beings, it's very easily to get emotionally fatigued.
46:12
It's very easy. To build up emotion really fast,
46:17
to get really passionate and then to to die down you, you get
46:21
tired, You get drained. After two weeks, 3 weeks, 4
46:24
weeks. It can be with sport you feel
46:27
the same. It can be with with religion you
46:30
feel the same. It can be with your exams and
46:32
revision, you feel the same. It's very hard to remain
46:36
consistent with your energy across a year.
46:40
When it comes to Muharram and asherah, how often do we see
46:44
people's energy levels dip before Arabaheen and then pick
46:47
up again and not remain consistent?
46:50
Or when it comes to natural disasters or wars, how often do
46:55
we see there's a lot of talk and a lot of hype and then it dies
46:58
down after 2-3, four weeks? Do not let that happen.
47:02
It's very easy for us to get frustrated and fatigued.
47:05
But yeah, we've got to stay positive.
47:08
And look, we have to remember there's the bigger picture of
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the the whole of that awaited him mum and Mahdi's coming and
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inshallah we pray with we're amongst him.
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Inshallah, I'll apologize Sharif.
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And you know I mentioned earlier in the conversation that you
47:21
know the arrival of Imam and Mahdi the Allah Hassan, his
47:24
reappearance is something we all look forward to and it's
47:27
something that inshallah we live to see in our lifetime.
47:31
And we pray Yani, you know the the suffering ends, the
47:36
oppression ends. You know everything that's wrong
47:39
that's happening around the world gets corrected via the
47:41
government of Imam Al Mahdi. Ajalat Arif Al Sharif.
47:44
And you asked you know how can we prepare for Imam Al Mahdi.
47:47
And I and I, I do have a narration or two that I will
47:50
share maybe the listeners will find beneficial.
47:53
One I've I've come across in Baharal and War volume 52, page
47:57
140, and it's a narration by Imam Jafar Assad Kalihir Salaam
48:02
where he says a person who would like to be among the companions
48:05
of Al Qaim should be in a state of active waiting interval and
48:11
perform all of his deeds at a level higher than Taqwa and with
48:16
the most beautiful etiquette. And the one and then one will be
48:20
counted as being in a state of true waiting.
48:23
Then if such a person was to die and al qaim was to make his
48:27
advent after this, then that person would receive the reward
48:30
as the one who in this al Mahdis had returned basically.
48:34
I want to I want to shout out act the Instagram page active
48:37
intolad. Have you heard of it?
48:38
Yeah, I have. I have I.
48:39
Shared their posts on after mocking a story a few days ago.
48:42
Active Intolad Really, really nice page run by a group of
48:44
brothers that I'm friends with. Yeah, I think it's probably, I
48:49
might be wrong, but it sounds like they made that organization
48:52
on the back of this hadith. Beautiful hadith possibly and
48:55
another hadith that I didn't want to share.
48:57
And you know, like I mentioned earlier, people actually wait
48:59
for the returning of Mahmoud and Mehdi and I didn't know that,
49:02
you know, just waiting is a form of worship.
49:05
And I came across another narration of Haran and war and
49:08
this is by Rasulullah Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wasalam where
49:11
he says awaiting the relief. The forage, you know with
49:16
patience is a form of worship and this is is related to Imam
49:20
Imam and Mehdi Ajalaat, Arjun Sharif Yani just us thinking
49:24
that the Mehdi will return and restore peace and justice around
49:27
the world. There's a form Ibadi and how
49:30
lucky are we to in a state of constant worship, the fact that
49:33
we pray for the returning environment.
49:36
I mean, but I think to understand waiting we need to
49:39
understand the Imam. To understand the Imam, we need
49:41
to understand what the Imam needs.
49:43
For us, from us to to then come back and to understand what what
49:48
he needs from us means we need, you know, we have to understand
49:52
our own responsibilities. To understand our own
49:54
responsibilities, we have to understand this environment
49:56
around us. It's a cyclical relationship.
49:59
You know the world we live in, how can we affect it?
50:03
Us affecting, it improves us as people.
50:05
Improving us as people improves our chances of working with your
50:08
mum. Working with the Imam or or hope
50:10
for working with the Imam. Being beside the Imam, working
50:13
under his his blessed guidance and leadership is active in
50:16
Tadar. Inshallah, we can be amongst
50:18
those who are who are counted. Inshallah, I hope and I pray.
50:21
And you know, there was many people who had actually DM us a
50:24
lot of questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:25
And one of the questions was you know is Palestine related to
50:28
Imam and Mehdi's return and and that's just one of many I think
50:32
10s and 10s of questions that did come in.
50:35
But I don't think we can answer them and I'll be honest like I'm
50:39
no scholar. I'm not.
50:39
We're. Not in a position but but we
50:41
what we could say sorry said is like in general oppression of
50:44
course is linked to the coming of the Imam you know surely like
50:48
it's Palestine and Yemen and so many over 1000 years people have
50:53
been waiting for the Holy Imam. How many acts of genocide have
50:57
we seen over 1000 years? Or brutal?
51:01
Tyranny or whatever it might be, you know, around the world it's
51:04
happened so often and at every point people are saying, yeah,
51:07
Imam, you know, you know this is where we call for help, for the
51:12
imam, for the reappearance, I said.
51:15
So it's, you know these, you know that like.
51:21
This is a da we can read every day as well alongside Da al
51:24
Farage or dial ahead or da like. These are da, as we can do to
51:29
strengthen our our well, we have many treasures that we can build
51:32
a connection with the amount of our time.
51:34
I just think we need to take the initiative to take that step.
51:36
And if we want to say, you know, we are truly waiting for the
51:39
return of Imam Sahablasu Zaman, we have to take those steps.
51:42
We have to read those. Yeah, we have to ask and
51:44
understand what he wants from us.
51:47
And just by the hadith I mentioned earlier, you know, we
51:49
need to be at the state of taqwa.
51:51
Yeah. So that's a separate
51:52
conversation that is in itself. And I believe we should have a
51:55
conversation on where we should. So this might be our last
51:58
episode. We don't know.
52:00
For season two. Brothers, sisters, it's been a
52:03
really difficult episode. We to be really honest with you,
52:05
we had we had a different episode.
52:07
I I I want to make this clear as well.
52:09
Like the last, our last observe was Shaq Mahdi, which was a
52:11
beautiful discussion. Yeah, it was recorded before the
52:15
recent conflict kicked off. So there's a reason why we
52:17
haven't had this conversation and this today what you're
52:20
seeing. Is is because it's been
52:25
happening for a long time now and we had to put aside our
52:28
other planned discussion to have this conversation, but we've got
52:32
a busy few weeks coming ahead. Inshallah, we are travelling a
52:36
lot after Maghrib will be at the Space conference in Vancouver,
52:40
if you haven't already seen. And that's on the 10th of the
52:43
11th of November in Vancouver, so check it out, we'll be there
52:46
doing a live podcast. We'll also be do delivering a
52:49
workshop on media and how to influence narratives of media.
52:54
We'll also be attending ABSOC events, which I don't know by
52:59
the time if it comes out if we so we have a busy November.
53:02
I've got a very busy November events to attend.
53:06
We're traveling, so inshallah with your prayers.
53:09
And then we will probably be back if we don't record.
53:12
If we. If you don't see us next week
53:13
we'll probably be back in a few weeks.
53:15
And Charlotte and if you yeah, as I said, I called the same
53:18
thing. If you don't, if we don't see an
53:19
additional episode coming out, coming out after this and
53:23
Charlotte, we will keep you posted and updated as we go.
53:26
And you know, make sure you do subscribe so you know when the
53:28
next episode does release. So don't forget to hit that and
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smash that. Algorithm, algorithm, Algorithm
53:33
likes matter on YouTube. Honestly speaking, like and all
53:37
lives matter. All likes matter.
53:39
All lives matter accent. Well, we don't like all lives.
53:41
Well, that's a different conversation.
53:43
All lives matter. Not for me, anyway.
53:45
But yeah, like, you know, I used to.
53:47
When I was young, I used to think about the likes on
53:49
YouTube. Why does it matter?
53:51
Surely people only care about subscribers, but the likes
53:54
matter because Bunsen says if you like these videos on
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YouTube, it gets recommended. It gets recommended and it show
54:01
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on YouTube. People who've subscribed to this
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channel also watch these videos and it will show, for example,
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after marketing podcast, it will jump on our nights and it will
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show videos that show up on our page.
54:15
So help us grow and I don't know if we're giving benefits to you
54:18
guys. Inshallah we have.
54:20
Across Season 2 and yeah, I hope it's been worth it.
54:24
I think it has been worth it. Especially you by my sight.
54:28
Have you the same? Maybe blush?
54:33
OK guys, I think we should call it a RAPS.
54:36
Yeah, I I I don't think there's much more I can add value when
54:40
it comes to the discussion of Palestine.
54:42
I I I think I've done the best I can in within my capacity here
54:46
on this platform. Yeah, there's things I wish that
54:49
I can discuss, that I've I've held myself on discussing.
54:51
Yeah, yeah, likewise. Inshallah has been beneficial.
54:55
There's some things of history I've learned today that you've
54:57
mentioned. I didn't know.
55:00
I think, and I can only pray that this just ends.
55:06
The occupation ends. You know, the Palestinians get
55:08
the freedom that they want and everyone lives a better life and
55:11
has and has the life and the aspirations to grow up as a
55:13
human. Being Inshallah, we pray for
55:15
peace in the region, we pray for peace for all people in the
55:18
region, and we pray for unity amongst religions as well.
55:23
Amongst especially our Abrahamic brothers, sisters, the
55:26
Christians and the Jews and the Muslims, the true Muslims and
55:30
the true Jews and Christians of this world will prosper together
55:33
and we'll celebrate together and coexist.
55:35
And coexist and, you know, being able to have coherent
55:39
conversation with people from other faiths is critical.
55:42
That dialogue, that interfaith, is so important to building that
55:45
harmonious world that we aspire to live in and that we aspire to
55:48
create for the awaited Imam. But it needs us to to think on a
55:52
bigger picture. We're not kids anymore, guys.
55:54
Like, if you're listening, like, put aside the memes for a second
55:58
or Call of Duty for a second and like, just think, real talk.
56:01
Do you know? Like we're.
56:02
We are. We're we're living in a in a
56:04
wider society, like we have to build relationships with people.
56:07
We have to try and make it leave a footprint on this world.
56:12
And there's a way of doing that. You might call into your local
56:16
news and change people's opinions.
56:19
And call into radio and change people's opinions.
56:21
You might share something online and it might change someone's
56:24
opinions. Someone said to me on a WhatsApp
56:26
group yesterday, why would a guy like me share on Instagram?
56:30
All my followers are Shia. Everyone already knows Bros
56:33
share it, man. Like, if you don't know, there
56:36
might be someone out there who doesn't know, or whose heart
56:38
might they need a reminder? They need a reminder.
56:40
Their heart might be touched. They might, They might aspire
56:42
for the cause of justice more. You know so.
56:46
Yeah, there's a lot of work to do.
56:47
There really, really is. There is I, I, I I wanted to
56:51
take one angle in this conversation, by the way, but I
56:53
refrain from doing so, which was the emotional side, you know,
56:56
being a father. And I'm sure a lot of people can
56:58
relate who are fathers or mothers or who has, you know,
57:00
siblings or little brothers and sisters.
57:02
Well like some things that you see and the and the footage that
57:05
comes out is just unbelievable and I words cannot express the
57:11
the disbelief and shock that I that I've seen.
57:16
And Charlotte is a conversation that we will stop having one day
57:19
and we pray that this all ends. But I think the best way to end
57:23
off this conversation is inshallah with Dial Farage.
57:44
We will see. You soon.
57:56
Don't go anywhere. Stay tuned and we'll be back
57:59
soon. Thanks for tuning in.
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See you soon.