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INTERVIEW: Too Short Talks 'His Favorite Word, 'Sir Too $hort Vol. 2,' Tupac, Biggie, Hov, Pimping, Finding Love + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click yours up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You don't finished for y'all done?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the world more danger this morning to show
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  Speaker 2: Envy is not in, but Lauren Lrossa is and we
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  Speaker 2: got a special guest man the Legend, the Icon, mister
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  Speaker 2: two shortest.
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  Speaker 3: Hell are you doing? My brother?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 3: I think you're the only man who can make women
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  Speaker 3: be happy about getting called a bitch.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say happy.
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  Speaker 3: It's I can't. It's celebrated.
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  Speaker 4: It's accepted because of the adjectives you use before you
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  Speaker 4: say it.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's my favorite word?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's just like beautiful, bitch, bad, bitch, got successful, bitch.
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  Speaker 3: Got you got you got, you got the best, bitch.
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  Speaker 1: You smile, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Is true, though, It is about the adjective you use
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  Speaker 2: before the word yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the tone yeah, the delivery, the face you make
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  Speaker 4: it when you say it, the beat beat, A smile
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  Speaker 4: on my face.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, look at this?
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  Speaker 5: What just hell?
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  Speaker 3: When did you realize that was your favorite word?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, man, I am a.
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  Speaker 4: Child who grew up watching exploitation movies, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: just in particular like Dolomite's character, it's just you know,
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  Speaker 4: you watch these movies man, very impressionable, impressionable, and it's like, bitch,
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  Speaker 4: roll my joint.
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  Speaker 1: Just shit is like I'm like, that's how I want
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the Old the Superfly, the Mac. You know
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  Speaker 4: they shot the Mac. They filmed the Mac in Oakland,
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  Speaker 4: and people in Oakland after they shot the Mac.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm with all the Mac. I'm the Mac.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, it's just it's just a thing, man.
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  Speaker 3: So to this day, you tell the bitch, you say, bitch,
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  Speaker 3: do something.
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't talk like that when I'm not working.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 4: It's definitely my career persona too short as my character.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very polite when I'm not working. But I mean
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  Speaker 4: it works, though I know, I think that it was
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  Speaker 4: all the shock value. I was a young rapper in
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  Speaker 4: the early eighties. I had a song. It was called
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  Speaker 4: Freaky Tales. Not the Freaky Tales. We all no, no,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not that one. This when I was like
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  Speaker 4: eleventh grade and had a song called Freaky Tales, and
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  Speaker 4: it said in the song it said I had sixteen
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  Speaker 4: hose sucking ten toes and I would play this back
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  Speaker 4: just before I had any mixtape anything. I would play
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  Speaker 4: it back and people would laugh every time I got
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  Speaker 4: to that line. So I was like, oh shit, I'm
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  Speaker 4: about to can I say, oh shit, oh shit, I'm
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  Speaker 4: about to.
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  Speaker 1: Write a song about these sixteen hose.
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  Speaker 4: So I wrote a song called sixteen hose, which is
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  Speaker 4: one of my if it's one of my recurring things
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  Speaker 4: that I do, sixteen hos.
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  Speaker 1: It just goes with the thing.
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  Speaker 4: And when I started telling the story about how I
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  Speaker 4: met each hole, that turned into the longer version of
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  Speaker 4: freaky Tales. And I would just notice early on if
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  Speaker 4: I said certain things, people would either laugh or they
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  Speaker 4: would be like, oh you know. That just started the
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  Speaker 4: whole element of the shock value in my songwriting, and
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  Speaker 4: I just kept going with it. So me and my
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  Speaker 4: rap partner time Freddy b we incorporated that that Dolan
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  Speaker 4: my bitch, that screen, and we put our little twang
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  Speaker 4: on it, and it was a part of our shows
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  Speaker 4: as youngsters. We would be rocking the crowd like everybody
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  Speaker 4: say Berg and then people just loved it. So it
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  Speaker 4: just kept going, man, wow, and I had to say,
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  Speaker 4: what's my favorite word because people started using it and
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  Speaker 4: it started being like death row was real popular with it,
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  Speaker 4: I mean the likes of comedians.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody started saying it.
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  Speaker 4: I was in a room one day, not part of
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  Speaker 4: a conversation where they were talking about the origin of it,
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  Speaker 4: and it was like somebody said, too short came up
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  Speaker 4: with that, and they was like, hey, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't have snoop dogs blah blah blah, and they was
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  Speaker 4: arguing about it. I'm like, damn, I gotta go take
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  Speaker 4: my word back.
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  Speaker 3: You had to let people know I'm the one. I'm
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  Speaker 3: the reason they all call you.
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  Speaker 4: I named the album What's my Favorite Word? Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I named the album What's my Favorite Word? And it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't one of the better albums, so I didn't get
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  Speaker 4: credit for that, and I was like, damn, I gotta
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  Speaker 4: get this. I gotta get this out there. And then
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  Speaker 4: when I did the blow the whistle, when I took
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  Speaker 4: ownership of it, and then like, oh, that's his thing.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm comfortable now.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Redid freaky tail.
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  Speaker 1: Yep came across my desk. I'm like, yes, clear that please, it.
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  Speaker 3: Has come out to you. I heard it, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it's come up.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people heard it, people know about it.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's part of my big part of
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  Speaker 4: my career right now too. It is clear in samples,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of sample clearances coming across
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  Speaker 4: the desk with it.
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  Speaker 6: You've been rapping since the eighties. That's a long time
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  Speaker 6: and you got a new album. What is your secret
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  Speaker 6: to staying relevant loving it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm a music guy.
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  Speaker 4: Like a lot of artists are not music guys, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're not music people. They're they're they write,
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  Speaker 4: they deliver, they do vocals, but they don't really do music.
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  Speaker 4: And me, my love for music, I was a little
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  Speaker 4: kid in the band. Seventh grade, eighth grade, ninth grade.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in the band and I'm playing instruments and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: and I just I really when I when I got
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  Speaker 4: into hip hop. A part of my fascination with it
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  Speaker 4: is the drum machines and the and the turntables and
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  Speaker 4: just making the making of the music. And I'm one
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  Speaker 4: of those artists who everything from the start to finish,
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  Speaker 4: I'm hands on. If I'm not doing it, I'm in
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  Speaker 4: the room when they do it. I'm approving it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: a part of all of it. So I love doing it.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not even like you can tell me, hey man,
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  Speaker 4: we got to catch you hit short. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't catch you hit. I'm just gonna make a song.
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  Speaker 4: So I love making music.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've never chased trends though, but it feels like
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  Speaker 2: the culture always circles back to too Short or to
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  Speaker 2: Bay in some way shape before.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't do what they do. So whatever they do,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, don't do that. I ain't got a tattoo,
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  Speaker 4: I ain't got a piercing, I ain't got five baby mamas.
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  Speaker 4: I don't got none of that what they do, and
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  Speaker 4: I really try hard to not do that. I look
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  Speaker 4: at I come from that Aaron hip hop where if
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  Speaker 4: he did that walk or that step or that look,
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  Speaker 4: and you do it next you you're out of there
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  Speaker 4: if you copy somebody. So I still subscribe to that.
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  Speaker 4: It just kind of try to be original.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be wearing my nineteen nineties cut
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  Speaker 4: jeans in six. But then I'm also not gonna I'm
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  Speaker 4: not gonna go all the way what you call them
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  Speaker 4: the old Waiians.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going all the way here.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to be an old Waiian.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm I'm I'm old Waiian. But I'm just not
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  Speaker 4: going all the way.
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  Speaker 1: What's all the way?
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  Speaker 4: I just had this conversation with a fabulous and Jim Jones.
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  Speaker 4: I said, we need all get together and make a
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  Speaker 4: song called Old Young Niggas, and let's take this ship
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  Speaker 4: head on and tackle it.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I just you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna catch me.
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  Speaker 4: With like a bunch of accessories and and just you know,
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  Speaker 4: I love my old young niggs, but I'm just I
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  Speaker 4: just I draw the line at a certain space where
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I definitely want to be I want to
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  Speaker 4: be called unk, you know, and you know, so I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not running from it.
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  Speaker 1: What up o G?
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  Speaker 4: And they be like, nigga, ain't og nigga, I'm still
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  Speaker 4: a young nigga. I'm og triple og.
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  Speaker 3: Actually it's authenticity. The greatest marketing strategy.
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  Speaker 4: I think for me, the greatest has always been accessibility
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  Speaker 4: and just actually like not fearing the approach of hey man,
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  Speaker 4: I love you man, like getting in my space and
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  Speaker 4: saying what's up in a respectful way. Is a good
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  Speaker 4: thing to me, and I'm not avoiding contact with the
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  Speaker 4: actual fan base. Ignorant people, disrespectful people, Yeah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: keep you at arms lengthd and deal with it. But
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  Speaker 4: if you're coming with with love, it's like, man, I
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  Speaker 4: think that that has been the best marketing for me. Example,
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  Speaker 4: I'm on tour in the early days, even to this day,
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  Speaker 4: I'm on tour like my first tour I went on
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  Speaker 4: was straight out of Compton. I'm going on the act
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  Speaker 4: right before n WA on most of the shows, and
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  Speaker 4: as soon as I get out stage, I'm grabbed my guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, let's hit the crowd and let's just
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  Speaker 1: go out. We in. I don't care what city we in.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, let's literally go out into the crowd and
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  Speaker 4: walk around and say what's up to people? And it's
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  Speaker 4: just that has always been the number one thing for me.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to whatever town it is, Hey man, where's
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  Speaker 4: the mall on the black side of town?
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: Who where the where the Barbara shop wall?
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  Speaker 4: The gangsters get cut at and we just go to
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  Speaker 4: them and they're like they're like, hey man, where.
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  Speaker 1: Your security at. I'm like, nigga, you my security and
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  Speaker 1: this one of the what's up with y'all?
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  Speaker 4: Smoke some of that California weed with him and we
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  Speaker 4: all homies, and that's always been my thing. And in
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  Speaker 4: the midst of that, yes, you better be yourself. You
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  Speaker 4: can't be You can't go round a bunch of real
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  Speaker 4: niggas and be a fake niggas. So it's just, it's just,
• 8:34
  Speaker 4: it's a winning formula with t K.
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: Kirkling on the street out of cope shoulders jew t K.
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  Speaker 1: Kirkling.
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  Speaker 4: He was the guy who who told jokes before the
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  Speaker 4: show and in between acts. And I've know TK ever
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  Speaker 4: since nineteen eighty nine. I haven't seen him tell a
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: lot of lies.
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  Speaker 3: But a lot of people think TK me lying.
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: We don't be lying, man, and motherfucker is just there.
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  Speaker 4: It's a picture like me doctor dre Easy back in
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  Speaker 4: the day, like who's nigga?
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  Speaker 1: On the end?
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  Speaker 7: T K.
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  Speaker 1: In there. He was there.
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: You try to tell Charlotte, man.
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  Speaker 3: I believe TK, but sometimes just don't be signing.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: He is that guy, man, He's that he was right
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  Speaker 1: in somewhere. You saw all today.
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: I swear in the room, but I didn't. We were
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: in the break, so I couldn't say myself, like he
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  Speaker 3: literally piked his head.
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: I'm about to call him see where he is.
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  Speaker 5: But it makes sense though.
• 9:27
  Speaker 8: I feel like when I even looking at like Friday,
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  Speaker 8: like all the movies like hip hop and comedy, like
• 9:32
  Speaker 8: it went so synonymous. So like when he's telling those stories,
• 9:35
  Speaker 8: I can I see it, But I don't know why
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  Speaker 8: it's hard for people to believe.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley just told me a story just reminded me
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: of the time I was on.
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: Tour with Ice Cube. This is a year after Uh
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: straight out of comptent ice Cube quit the group. He
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: put out the America's Most Wanted Solo album and we
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: went on tour together and Ricky Smiley said, we got
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: to Birmingham. They sent him out there to tell some jokes,
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: and he came out there in to suit and tie
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  Speaker 4: and got.
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  Speaker 7: Booed before we even started telling jokes.
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  Speaker 1: He said, you know, I don't know. He just said
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: he got booed in the worst boo way, the way
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: the worst way to get your bitch hass off. Like
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: he said, they went crazy on him. But if he
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: had to do over, he you know, dressed a little different.
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: Instead of telling jokes, he probably would just like work
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: the crowd. So I'm like, what would you do if
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: you had to do over? Bro wouldn't do that? But yeah,
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: on the Comedians has always been with us. What year
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: was that you said, nineteen ninety?
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: Your lord is Yeah.
• 10:36
  Speaker 8: Do you ever sit back and think about like your longevity, Like,
• 10:38
  Speaker 8: I know you celebrating twenty years, right, blot.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Whistle Bottle whistle has been out for twenty years.
• 10:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's still so relevant. Was the song of
• 10:45
  Speaker 8: the super Bowl at one point, like, your longevity is insane.
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, it's what I was just
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: telling him about just touching the people and being there.
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: But I also think it's it's the activity because when
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: you get a certain age, like say you're an NBA player,
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: you get a certain age to end up down at
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: the end of the bench, never get put in the game,
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: but you're given all the players you know, knowledge and
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: stuff and pointers and stuff. You kind of you kind
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: of a player coach kind of vibe. I stayed in
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: the game. I just stayed in the game. I stayed
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: on the court. I stayed active. I never stopped doing shows.
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: I noticed if you're in if you're a rapper and
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: you do the stay home thing for about five ten
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  Speaker 4: years and you get back on stage. We could see
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: the rush there you go, yeah, I heard you.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: He heard you like that.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm in here vouching for you. Confer there.
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: Much of a sin.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: He was kids, Nigga was there, We was kids were junxious. Man.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Well it's only one.
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: We never got to the bottom of which whose apartment
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: was it yours or l A Drake?
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: But you don't talk about that.
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: That was the funniest ship in my life. Somebody was
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: taking a vacation, yes, if you know what I mean. Yes,
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: And then uh D was on vacation, was on vacation,
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: and he came home and t K was had his
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: feet up on the table.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: But I was staying there for just a couple of
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: days because we was doing the whatever.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 12:20
  Speaker 9: That's why he's not here, so we can't defend.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: You know, he don't know.
• 12:25
  Speaker 9: He's a comedian, this guy, he's a sneaky comedian. Yeah
• 12:30
  Speaker 9: that's all.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's you know?
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: What's so funny? Too short?
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: Said t K is just always there. I don't even
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: know why you here. This morning, I was doing Angela. Sorry, yeah,
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: I was doing Angela OK. Yeah, so it was doing
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Angela's show.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Angela y for years with him, but he.
• 12:56
  Speaker 9: Wrote a song with my stuff on this album. So
• 13:00
  Speaker 9: you always show love him and his people always coming.
• 13:02
  Speaker 9: I'm in in Oakland, they always come to my show.
• 13:04
  Speaker 9: They took me into the to the bar, and that's
• 13:07
  Speaker 9: when I realized that black people had got a meth
• 13:11
  Speaker 9: up in the Bay Area and that had confused me
• 13:14
  Speaker 9: because I used to live up there and.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: That used to always be like a white man's drug.
• 13:19
  Speaker 9: I saw all those people outside and you always explaining
• 13:21
  Speaker 9: to me like t K or myth, like when did
• 13:24
  Speaker 9: that happen?
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: The drug?
• 13:27
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Talk about that?
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that's how far we
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: go back. Yeah. I just wanted you to see something.
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: City, Atlanta, l A, Bay Area, your family up there
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: in September.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: What do you really from the East Coast?
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from across the bridge, Jersey, Jersey. Yeah. Pressed the button,
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: yes sir, Yes, that.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Is hilarious man.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: It was just here that we had I thought that
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: was Tailor right there. We had a her producing name
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: of Taylors you walking around here. She was so mad
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: at you had you named your album too short, drinking smoke. Yeah,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: serve too short volume two drinking smoke. She feels like
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: you're too old to still be drinking and smoking, she said,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: she don't believe you care about your health.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: Actually, I'm very health conscious, and I do everything in moderation.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: All these years, I wasn't like a young, wild, over
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: the top, hangover having a party type person. Man, I stay,
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: I stay focused, I stay on point. So over the
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: years of moderation has afforded me the ability to continue.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: And I still smoke with you, man, I wouldn't you,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: But I never was eight blunts a day, never smoke blunts,
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: never smoked backwoods or phillies and none of that stuff.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: I always smoke little ass joints of a modest size
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: note not even big ass joints. And I take a
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: joint like right now, I probably have half a joint
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: on me, and it's half a joint. I've been smoking
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: this joint for like three tries.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Now take it out three pubs, catch a buzz, put
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: it out. I do it like that. I go out
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: and drink, go out and drink. I'm not drinking eight
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: shots of tequila. Giving me a drink. Maybe get a
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: little shot on the side, ketch a buzz. I'm cool.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: So to picture drinking and smoking as hella high and
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: hella drunk is is not the reality that I'm living.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: And I've made a statement like I didn't even write
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: the Hook. My man decades from Bakersfield about the Hook,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: but I endorse it. And everybody want to drink and smoke.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: I'm at the club, there's a bottle on the table
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: and some weed going around. Everybody's like, let me pour
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: me one and let me fuck hit the weed. So
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: everybody want to drink and smoke, and I do think
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: that it's not for everybody. And I do understand how
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: it could look wrong on a OG because I heard
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: some OG's on the radio the other day saying, man,
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: I ain't had it drinking seven years because of age,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, but I know a lot of old
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: drunk motherfuckers, So it's like.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Like it ain't going that ain't all the way across
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the board.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: And although they might be recovering alcoholics, like they might
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: have went too hard with hard exactly.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: So I've always been in moderation. You don't have the
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: receipts on me being the drunk uncle. The drunk somewhere.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I don't I know the truth, but I'm not gonna
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: reveal it any family reunion that your uncle is really
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: your daddy.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not that god. I'm not that uncle.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I'm the cool uncle.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: One of the songs on the album Future Snoop Dogg
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I is Cuban he forty. It's called good Coochie.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just announced to him. I didn't tell him.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I was using that song.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Group.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, yesterday I said, somebody should probably called.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Cube and tell him. But I think I think I could.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I could get snoopid forty on board, but Cube is like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: he's not He does what he wants to do, and
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: if he doesn't approve, I'm like, if you don't say
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: it's cool, we gotta take that one off the album.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: It's a Mount wes Moore song. And Mount wes Moore
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: has a plethora of songs that we haven't given to
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: the world, and they're sitting there. A lot of them
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: are really great songs. And I'm in a group. I'm
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: in a group with four rich, three rich guys. They're
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: all rich and they don't really care.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Man. They like they got so it's like, bro, let's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: let's go get this for the hustle. They're like, bro,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I'm hustled out. I got all the money in the world.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, let's just give the people
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the music.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: And it's just you got four bosses and four opinions
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: and four geniuses and four different thinking ways of thinking
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: of how to get this out there. So I just
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: picked the song out the litter and just was like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna just ease this on my album, the one
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: that fits two shorts persona. I brought that song to
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: the table, so I should be able to steal it
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: from the unused pool of songs. And like you said,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: there three married guys rapping about good cuchie. Even if
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: we did an album number two that that song probably
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: wouldn't even make it anyway. Yeah, subject wise makes good.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: You know that's a question that women like that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: On both sides of that spectrum. I don't think that
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: everybody is for everybody. So let's just say I come
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: out of a relationship and I'm like, oh boy, she
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: had the best and You're like, you talked about it
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: so much. I'm gonna go in there and try it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: You're like, it's all mediocre, like it don't work for you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: And you tell your homegirl, he put that thing on me.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Then she's double back and try to sneak and get it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: and she's like, it wasn't all that, but every some
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: people's greatness together.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: It is just that. It's that just meant it's that chemistry.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: It's not everything.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: So uh, you got you got a song called good Couchie.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I think there's a a's a there's an essence of
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: good Couchie. It's it's a walk where you kind of
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: sit still and the way you kind of carry yourself.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: You're like, well, I bet that ship is good.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You just think it. And then there's the.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Actual reality of good Kuchie, which it it's not something
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: you could explain. It's something you gotta feel. You gotta
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: be like that ship was good, and you just gotta
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: it's gotta really like wake you up in the middle
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: of the night, think about it early in the morning.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: You wake up and you're like, you're living that moment
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: again in your imagination. It's just that's that's great.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Or or you bump into somebody you ain't seeing it
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: while we're like, oh, fuck, I forgot about that one. Man,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Like they're reminiscent, So, yeah, that happened to me recentlyiscent. Yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: we just started to remember that time, remember that time together,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and were just saying, remember that time. The story started
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: coming back.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Where were you all running to each other?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: You're trying to pinpoint the I can't say.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Because birthday party you recently had.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: If I gave you three facts about this, you and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: other people could put it together. And it's not to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: be put together. Oh man, we're older now and we
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: don't really want you know it happened you never.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Found one that you wanted to settle down with for
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the rest of your life, though clearly not because you
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: never you never got married.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Right, you answered the question and asked it. Bro, I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: had at least at least five that.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I feel stupid, Like, Bro, you should have kept one
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: of them, because you know how later in life you're like, damn,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: she did good, she still looked good. And I'm like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: I lost some good ones. Man, I walked away from
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: some good ones, and I do have regrets about that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: But I didn't have the vision to see in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: future because for them five I could tell you twenty
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: five that was I'm so glad I didn't stay there
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: with my life.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: So you think it's your persona, like the persona that
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: you have wouldn't allow.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: You to Nope, I think it's my.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Some of those women would be like, you're an egomaniac
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: selfish person. I think it's the exact opposite of being selfish.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I knew for a fact that
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I was going to continue doing what I was doing
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: the way I was doing it. I was going to
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: continue jumping on planes, going to shows and you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: hit the after hours, after party, the tip through the
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: strip club, and I just think I wasn't going to
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: be I wasn't willing to be at that time in
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: my life a good man to my woman. And I'm like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: why should I do this to you when I know
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. So I would have I don't think
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I would have been a good young father. I wouldn't
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: have been very present. I don't think I would have
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: been a good husband at a twenty thirty forty year
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: old too short. I wasn't gonna do it. So I
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: would get really close to that part where it just
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: feels so good and it's like, I'm like, walk into
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: the bathroom. So I'm like, girl, you know I love you.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh shit, I said, I gotta get the
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: fuck out of here, and.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I take off running.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: So I ran from love, not because of anything that
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: would need me to need to go to therapy, which
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: is what they say when they break up with you.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I hope you get some help, you like, really, you
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: know the one out the door. Well, I wish you
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the best. I hope you get some help and get something.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: You Still, you're still running away from love right now,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: like currently, Like I.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't know if I'm still running, but
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I'm still a rock star.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: So you're still choosing to not be in like a permanent,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: long term situation right now.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta find somebody to push his wheelchair around.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Pretty suck use.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: You just turned sixty, right, I just turned sixty. Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: he had a huge birthday party.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I'm in the.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Sixty club and you look amazing, Thank you, thank you.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I could grow a gray beard and look like a
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Papa Smurf. I could do it, but I'm just it's
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: my thing.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: You know, something told me it's gonna end up in
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: therapy up here, because you guys talk about mental health
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: All that time I was.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I was happy with my youthful playboy lifestyle. But right
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: now it is like, you know, the clock is ticking,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: and it's like I no longer want to have like
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: five girlfriends in rotation. I don't wish to go out
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: tonight and be like, man, let me see who I
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: could funk like, and all that's out the window. But
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I haven't yet found like who, because that's that's a
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: that's a big deal. Like who's gonna grow old with me?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That's a in your two.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: We're already old when he's older old with me.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I don't say who you're proving all the women records
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: women always say yeah, of course you want to hang
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: it up, you know, once you get to a certain days.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Up.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I think that some of it should do that, because
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: we go through these miserable ass inter and out of
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: relationships and divorces, and you're on your third wife and
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you still ain't got it right.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm still with my first.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: So it's like a lot of people should live a
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: life like I lived through your twenties, thirties, forties, you
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: get to your fifties and sixties, find a companion, you
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, because it.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It's fun, is good.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Other people could have a partner they walk through life
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: with and it works, and it works, and y'all ride
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: it dot to the wheels fallout.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: That's for you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I was too young and dumb to realize when that
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: person came who I should have kept. I just kept
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: on pushing. But now you know, you go to the
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: retirement home, you find you somebody ride with you. They
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: got the little blue pill.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Y'all ride it out.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm well, the last time you told
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: somebody that you love them h today? No, I mean
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: somebody that's like a potent.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I've been in love in the twenty twenties. Yes, okay,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you've been to twenty twenties. I've been in real love.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: I have been through some real situations where we really
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: have to figure it out, work it out, and get
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: through it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I've been there. I live a life outside of the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: stage in the studio. There was a life.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: There's really emotions, there's ups and downs, there's you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: tears and fears and all this stuff.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's real.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I just for those first fifty years I was stuck
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: in this in between the reality of Toddshaw and the
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: reality of too Short kept intersecting and crossing, and I
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: kept running from it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: When it gets too really I run from it. But
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: now I'm like, I'm facing it now.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, this is this is a different chapter,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: and you can't have that mentality anymore. It doesn't really work,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: doesn't work at all. There's nothing about what I used
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: to do that fits now.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: That anymore.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Like, what's something twenty five year old too Short believed
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: about women that sixty year old too Short?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Which what did I believe about women? I can't remember.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I got to think this through, man, because this is
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: a very deep Yeah, It's like I wasn't there, man,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: I was literally hanging with a bunch of pimps and
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: players and straight cats. And I'm watching my homeboys in
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: high school make babies and coming out of high school,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: we in our young twenties. He got three baby mamas,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: and you know, he in court with his baby mama
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: every other Tuesday. They going with the with the garnishings,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: garnish whatever they and all the little you know, the
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: baby daddy when he comes back from court, mad his
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: hell with the little paperworking. It's about five terms that
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: they'll be arguing about. And I just like, Bro, I
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: don't want that life. And on top of these, you
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: know these kinds of situations with certain people. You got
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: a job, you in the street, whatever, But I'm a rapper.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: When they when they hit the rapper bank account, they
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: hit it hard ball players, and they hit it hard
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: like a ballplayer with eight baby mamas is fly until
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: he ain't playing no more. And then it's like they
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you still got to pay, like you got a contract
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: after you ain't got a contract no more. And I
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: just didn't know if that was would affect my career.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, Bro, I have so many times
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: just just stepped away from the situation. So I wasn't really.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Blaming it on the female.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: There's nothing that the female was doing wrong and itchy
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: my situations that I that I didn't keep, I was
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: the guy that sucked up.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I was the one that messed up in the relationship.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I never blamed none of them. And like I left you,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I would have an excuse, was like you throw the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: towels on the floor. I don't like that. I just
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: make up anything.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: So watching other people, other people growing up like you. Yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: love was very toxic from which and I still feel to.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: This day that that is for some people and it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: not for others. If you just look at the divorce
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: rate is look at that and I'm like, I'm half right,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Like it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Ain't working for it, but it might not.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: That's not your story.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell you this much on behalf of
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to at.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Now that I'm a parent, and a lot of times
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I'll say, no, I'm not I'm not fucking with y'all
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: tonight because I'm about to kick with my kid. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: used to laugh at niggas that said that. I thought
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: that was the most hilarious thing in the world, like, nigga,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: do you know what's going down tonight? Like you're finna
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: stay in the house with some lit last kids.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But I didn't know. I did not know that that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: unconditional love was better than the club. I didn't know that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: And I you know, also, if you've been in a
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: long term relationship and you know the rewards are that,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know that, So you can't even site it
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: right now, convince me how amazing that is because I've
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: never done it, And I think that on my side
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: of the fence, you was on the porch at the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: house with that little bitty dog, you know, and everybody
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: like daddy day you was out there looking at me like, dang.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I wish I could hang out with short dog and
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: trauma begin fourth grade.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Could now because it does sound like trying to escape from.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Your baby girl. Uh.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Probably a couple of like, you know, boyfriend girlfriend aspirations
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: and it didn't go my way, and then one day
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: a couple of those I'm like, man, I ain't doing
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: this no more. And I really like, I've read a
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: lot of books as a youngster. I was in those books,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: uh Man Child and the Promised Land and and all
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the Donald Goyne's books and and the movies and then
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: and definitely the Story of my life, Pimp. The Story
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: of my life was very influential, which he later denounced
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: in another book called.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: What was it? Last book? Solberg slim But you know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: When people go back and read it, he was traumatized
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: by his mother everything. Yeah, I mean he was traumatized period.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: And in the last book he goes, this pimp ship
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: fucked my life up. I would lived a way better life,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I was intelligent. Be Coulse did all kinds of things
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: in life.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I pimped and it left me in the penitentiary at
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: of my life and on drugs happening like he denounced it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I took a part of that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: And I was so fascinated at every movie, not by
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: what the pimp did in his lifestyle, but just the
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: way he pulled up, the way he looked, and the
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: way he commanded to treat me like this. One of
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: my favorite movies is Willy Dynamite. When the movie comes on,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of these movies are about the rise and
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: the fall or whatever, but when Willie Dynamite comes on,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: he has seven holes of all different ethnicities, and he
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: is on top of the world, and his level of
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: pimp mentality is way different than most of these pimp
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: characters in the movie. And I'm like, that's they had
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the little Pimp Council. You talking about separating the territories
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: and shit, you get that side of town. Will He's like, man,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: my bitch is the savages. Can't put my bitch on
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: one corner. And I'm just like, I'm a little nigga
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: fascinated by this, I'm like, I want to be that guy.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I want to be the guy who's sitting around his
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: living room and seven girl friends. They are my girlfriends.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: And I manifested that reality I've lived.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I lived that life.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I've been on a date. I'm like, we're going out tonight.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I've got like seven girls of me. I'm really in
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: a relationship with all seven.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: They all know about it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not a pimp, they're not my host, but we
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: are in we are in some safe reas, like I'm
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: gonna go sleep in this bed. Usually what I did
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: that ship.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: But that's just that's just a headache, a headache because.
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying, like how much can one dick do?
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: You though?
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: But it's it is a image that I'm a signa
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I'm selling. I'm not really being it in real life anymore.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Back in the day, even back then, I was just
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I was just I want to I want you all
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: to see me walk in the club with I say,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: walk single file and follow me in, and I just
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: want you to see the look I was I was marketing.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: So okay, at what point does the image stop in
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: and that that's.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Talk about this? So you said this first song is
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: better Pimp. But are we do we have to really
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: be age appropriate and hip hop? Can we not continue
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: to be like a movie and keep selling our character
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and it is what it is?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Do the coke rappers have to stop saying I sell
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: coke just because they stopped doing it twenty years ago?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Can you still? Can you still weave together a dope
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: ass coke rap and be like, I whip it, I
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: do it, and I'm like.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's music, you can. But I think the
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: difference is the way I enjoy all of it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Right, But I enjoy it because I'm forty eight years
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: old and I understand that it's just entertainment.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Can hip hop have characters?
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Do we have to like, well, I'm forty now this
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: the real mean, I'm never gonna talk. I'm never going
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: to give you Todd Shaw and a rap song. It
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: doesn't exist.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: The problem.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: The problem with hip hop is hip hop always claims
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to be real, and they actually punish you if you're
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: not real, if you're not living your raps. If we
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: knew it was just entertainment, y'all can do this shit
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: till y'all seventy.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: If y'all will from day one. You can go check
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: my track record.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I've always rapped in a song and say I'm a
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: pimp In every interview I did, I said, I don't pimpose.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm a rapper like I've never I've never tried to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: play both sides of it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: And I think that that's a dangerous thing to be
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: a gangster in a song and then walk around every
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: city in America.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I'm really a gangster. I got it on me. That's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: that's a problem waiting to happen with you and.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Gets more influential because the music got that beat, It
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: slaps the interview.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Let's turn its turn the pancake over and now I'm
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: a I'm a pro activist, everything uplifting rapper. But then
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: that at night, I'm just buying a pussy from hose
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: and hanging in the shady's place. What's the difference that way,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that. That's the difference in the whole
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: hypocrite thing of a rapper's career.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: The art is still more influential, and you know who
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: proved that?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: What about movies? But what about movies?
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: What do you mean actors play a role like you're
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: you're you're a type cast as a role and you
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: play that role over and over again.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: But that's nothing like your life.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: You get to live your life without saying I'm the
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: guy who kicks ass and every movie or the guy
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: who's a gangster and the.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Hag still has more impact. Like I think about all
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: them gangster movies.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Where it pass and we don't because it's hip hop.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Because hip hop claims to be real. Hip hop don't
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: say it's fiction. If hip hop was to say this
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: is fiction, this is just entertainment, it would be a
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: whole different conversation.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You see, ya didn't know that back in the day.
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: The thing about when you talk about Pimp in the book, right,
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: you said when the second book came out, you was like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: WHOA hold on? Wait, Like, because there were certain things
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: you bought into in that first book that inspired a
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: lot of who your character is. That's what's happening when
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: people are watching or listening to you. Yeah, And I
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: get what you're saying a bit because I do think
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: that there should be some like art creativity that hip
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: hop artists should be able to have. But then I
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: think that's when a responsibility conversation comes in. It's like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: do you get to pick and choose when your platform
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: grows to where yours has to say No, I don't
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: want responsibility and ain't responsibility.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It's entertainment. And you got to take it that way.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: If you fucking listen to this rap music and you
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: sit there and want to go crash out as a
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: gangster rapper trying to be like so and so, I mean,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: that's just like, that's just naive to the umpteenth power
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the female rap. How much influence is this having on
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: our young girls right now? There's all kind of rap
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: out there, man hip hop. The fucking lack of subgenres
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: is a problem. The fact that we can't categorize this
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: music properly and and send it to the right places,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: and and you, as a parent, filter what you think
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: your child should listen to. That's a problem that we
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: just call it all it's all hip hop, it's all rap.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: It's not rap. We got we got dance music, we
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: got emotional music, we got we got uh, stripper rap.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: We got sisters.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: That's holding it down, Uh, you know, uplifting the females
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: and and empowering you know, positive messages and all this stuff.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: It's all out there, but we just throw it in
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: a big power called hip hop and go. You know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: you expect us to be a monolith, and it's like, man,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not ever going to wake up at four forty
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: four in the morning and evaluate my life in a
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: rap song.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: That's not where I'm at or where I'm even going.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: I could give you so much Todd isms. If I
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: wrote a Todd Avenue, I'll be like, this is so prolific.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: But I'm not that what you said four forty four
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Angel well, and I was.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I was referring to jay Z and.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I thought, I thought you did that on purpose. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: just feel like, I know people can learn a lot.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: We are telling our older rappers, now, hey man, when
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: you get to a certain age, pass down the knowledge,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: big homie, like you know. And we do that on foot,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: we do that in person, we do that in certain
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: things that we say in the song. My songs have
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: always been educational, but it's not it's not my space
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: where I'm going to. I'm making real life moves on
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: trying to say say the youth, not not writing a
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: song that's gonna preach to you. I want to I
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: want to say I want to be too short as
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: a character. I'm not gonna write it. If I do
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: the things that I'm supposed to do as a mature man,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it in the name of too
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: short on a song. I'm gonna do it as Todd Shaw,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: the person who's in the community trying to uplift the community,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: We just had David Porter in the you know, legendary songwriter,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and he said that they used to have to put
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: their hidden messaging in the music. Like the music was
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: upbeat and you could dance to it, but they were
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: putting messages into music.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, we grew up on stuff like that to
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: a public enemy.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: And you know, and right now the things that I'm
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: doing and the things that we complain about the spend
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: that and all that that's being given to the masses.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: It's a whole slew of gospel rappers and rappers who
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: like super lyrical with nothing but positive messages. We won't
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: even as a whole the music industry will not put
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: that on the pedestal anymore. It's so many public enemies
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: out there that don't want to talk about degrading things
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: that would bring the community down. We don't even want
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: to put that out there. And then we want to
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: get mad at the people who who are talking about
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: check that ass, get your money, bitch, Like we mad?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Why you mad at that?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: What conversation did you in pocke yousta? I feel like
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: this would have been a good debate between y'all two.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, Tupaca was multiple people though, he had multiple approaches
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: to life. And then I think on any given day
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: he might be one of those boks. And I was
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: the first time I saw Tupac on b E T.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I think he was talking and might have been Donnie
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Simpson and he was got into his black panther mode.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: I had known him, you know, the fun guy and
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: all this stuff, and I'm like, what the hell is
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: he talking about? And then you come to find out
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: that's his background and he really he really had an
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: activist gene in him that cared about the community, you
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like he really was a black
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: panther And you know when he when he wrote songs
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: and stuff, he was he was really he was really
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: fast at writing songs, really fast, and the kind of
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: people that we are, I don't think we ever would
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: have just stopped and debated, like you know, we would
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: be listening to me as the smoking weeds talking shit,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: talking about girls, just talking about life, this and that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: We never stopped long enough to go deep. And I
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: heard I heard of of his you know, power wows
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: of certain people. But we was rock stars and ninety
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: miles an hour wasn't no time to stop. Like where
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I got you finished the first I got two bitches waiting,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I'm here.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: It was out of here.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: You heard it. That's funny. It's just so you heard
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: him on some Black Powers, though, was like we was
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: just with the whole.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Last talking about but I got I got it, I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: That was his upbringing and the first time he so
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: he had not displayed that because he was like, you know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: like like sort of like a Sleepers at the time.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: And the first time you put him on national TV,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: he goes, yeah, and you gonna treat my people.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Right, And I'm like, whoa, that was him?
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: And he sees the moment with Kanye jumped on stage
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: and said George Wist don't like black people. We didn't
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: know that was Kanye, and but we've known it ever since.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: That he was gonna speak his mind, he was gonna
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: speak up for his beliefs.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: So you know that makes a lot of sense because
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: what you're saying is like, Okay, even if I don't
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: put it in my music, I'm gonna do it in
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: real life.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: So when you interviews and.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Stuff happened, and I get in front of these cameras,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a whole different conversation.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: You have never in your life heard about too shorts
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: community work. It's not something that is advertising. As we
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: sit here right now, I am working with people in Oakland,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: California to make our community better for the kids, for
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: the future of the kids.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I'm tapped in with the school district and politicians who
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: are trying to bring stuff.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: You know, businessmen.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I think right now is we're trying to motivate the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: tech companies in the Bay Area to invest like you
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: guys do and all this getting all this money.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: For all these years.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: We got a little city here, Oakland, California that's not
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: that big, but we need a lot of help. Like y'all,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: y'all been milking the community. Give us some help. Y'all
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: had money oozing out your ears, so it's a lot
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: of things going on that I don't think as too
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: short the rapper. I'm gonna put it in my music,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: but I believe in it. And you'd be surprised. You're like,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I got too shirts.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Just wake up in the morning. There the bitch is at.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: That's not that's not me.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: So you clearly separate the man from the artist.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, and I'm never gonna grow up on
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: a song. I'm not.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: You couldn't be a better pimp than me, even if
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: it was macking every day of the week. I know
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: you think you got it like that, but peep, I
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: pimped these holes every day of the week. It's just
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: good music. And when you're riding, you're like, I'm a
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: pimp too. I make a female thing. She pipping, period,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: and actually she might start pepping. You ever clock some
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: money from a chick?
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: What?
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Well, no, not a chick, I ain't know, you mean
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: like a female running.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I'll and then she bring the money back to you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: because you an actual pimp. Okay, it's the thing.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: Oh I got Okay, that's considered.
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: I didn't do it, but I got homegirls who like
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: it's like all right, I can't deal with him, So
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: you go deal with him.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: You know what, he's gonna run back. And then I
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: have friends that do that. I didn't. That's not pimping, though.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: The song about putting your homegirls on.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: When you do it consistently, and it starts to be
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: like you want, I want my percentage, I would run
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: some place you end up pipping.
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: You're looking at your eye like like I know people
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: who do that, and I don't think that they consider
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: it pimping. It's just like a thing of like, yo,
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: like you should go do this in a gray area.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: It might have been maybe I don't know, I never
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: thought of it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: If you make enough phone calls and you hook up
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: enough place and your phone is being tapped, you couldn't
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: catch your case.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: Maybe it wasn't considered pimp been in Delaware, but that's
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: what it was.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: They're not actually I'm not taking.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Nothing in Delaware, but squares. I'm joking saying it's like
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you think I'm some kind of square from Delaware.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, always when they meet me like Delaware.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's just because it rhymes, ain't What was a
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: misconception people still have about too short that you've never
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: been able to shake.
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: That.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I don't like the women, and I'm just like, first
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: of all, I know that all women are not bitches.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I know this for a fact.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Secondly, I know that all bitches are not female. All
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: females ain't bitches. All bitches ain't females. So I think
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: that when a lot of women meet me and they
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: say this to me, they go, wow, I wasn't expecting that.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: They were expecting a little bit of rude and a
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: little bit of just like you know, the the to them.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then here comes this polite guy who's just courteous.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: And cares, and they're like, damn, so you're a successful, professional,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: beautiful woman and here you go to your professional beautiful
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: female friends, I'm dating too short and they're like, bitch, what.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: And then you gotta you gotta explain that no, he
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: ain't like that, he ain't like that. So I gotta
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I walk in with a reputation that is not necessarily
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: who I am. And yes, I love to be treated
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: like a pimp. I love to live my life pimp ish,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: pimp ish. But as my mother's name is Dorothy, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: she raised me a certain way and I've never let
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: her down.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Because when I.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Was sixteen, my mother found one of my rap books
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: and it's you know, at sixteen, I was, you know,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: suck my dick busted in her eye, I was saying everything,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: and she found my rap book and she was hurt.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: She was hurt.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I opened up my rap book. You know, we used
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: to write rhymes, y'all. Open up my wrap book and
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: I found a letter from my mother. Wow, it was
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: just like some therapy shit you would throw on me.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: And it was just like, I hope you don't believe
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: these things. And I always just wanted you to grow
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: up and be like, you know, successful and have a family,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: and if you really believe this stuff, you know, it
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: was it was, it was deep. I'm glad I threw
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: it away because that probably would everybody would. I would
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: have read it over and over again and straightened my
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: life up, as you should. But instead I'm like, nah,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: my min ain't pipping.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: It's my singing group. These ain't hoes. He's the singers.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: We're working on the album.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: They had the misconception too.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: You apologize for this when you said that you never
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: fall in love with any woman. That was a mixed woman.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: You were talking about the mixed babies being beautiful.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I never said that, you said.
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: You said, I don't think I've ever fallen in love
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: with a woman that wasn't mixed, and the bay did
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: that to me. I feel that way about life too,
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: like biracial babies are.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: You didn't say it that way the first time I
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: read the quote.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: That's why I read the quote.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: You said you could take two of the ugliest people,
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: well you said mother efforts, but to the other people
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: from different races and they and make a baby.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Is that ugly beautiful thing?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Is it what that you could take unattractive people and
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: make beauty.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: That's a beautiful thing.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: I think it's it was a mixed race, but it's
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: a beautiful thing people.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: I think people took it as you're saying, because it's
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: you're dealing.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: With a woman that now they came with this. What's
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: just stuff?
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Y'all send y'all DNA to the twenty three and ancestry.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Ain't nobody nothing, We all everything, all of us right,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: everything you thought you was, you ain't you mixed up everybody?
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: You know why this conversation is irrelevant because our grandparents
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: are fucking liars. They don't tell us that they was
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: mixing and mingling and everybody got you got to look
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: curly hair, and you got your get your lights.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: A lot of our grandparents got raped that part.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Everything we all. And I really liked this for white
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: people because they think they're white and they not. They
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: got like, why do you think Amy got a fat
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: ass in all to dance? Because Amy grandmama had a
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: black baby daddy and it came out looking white. But
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: it's she still got that ass in that rhythm. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I love black women.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: If you look through my phone and check ex girlfriends,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: you were like, oh, this nigga's in dated the spectrum.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: And it ain't about was they mixed, And it ain't
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: about was there another race.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: It's just I was saying that living in the Bay.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: So many people in the Bay since the sixties and beyond,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know how long they've been doing it mixed.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: And then in the Bay, there was always a thing
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: that you could say when you meet somebody, like what
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: you mixed with and they just tell you it's an
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: instant answer. It's not you say that in other places
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: and they get mad at and it wasn't a thing
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: like that in the Bay. And at that time, I
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: was talking to a Bay person Sweetie, Yeah, who is mixed?
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: And I was like, damn, looking at you. I'm just thinking,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I who I love?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. I never have It was an epiphany at
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: that moment. I'm like, damn, ah my, what's kind of mixed?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: And I was just thinking that it was out loud.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Her mama, Philip, you know her dad is black or something. Yeah, yeah,
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: And I was just saying that to a person. And
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: at the time, you know, my naive thing I was
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: doing was I didn't realize this new instagram what they
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: call it when communities, when you're going together the instagram lives, Yeah,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: going live with somebody with the split screen and ship.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't realize the magnitude of that. What the what
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: the backlash was on. It's not a private conversation.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: This is the world.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: And I could see how one person would go too short,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: say he don't like black babies. That that was the
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: next statement the nigga say he don't like black babies.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Then somebody said he don't even like black women. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I'm like I'm like, I didn't say none of that
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: shit because I actually, actually actually like beautiful women across
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: the board, and I actually don't think that beauty is
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: something that is on your face or your body. I
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: think you could take the finest motherfucker in a picture
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: and bring him to life and be like, soon as
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: this bitch open her mouth, she ugly as fuck because
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: of her things that she says, the facial expression she makes.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: She's very photogenic, but she's an ugly person when she's
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: an animated and vice versa. You could take look at
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: the pictures somebody and go, I don't think I don't
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: think she looks good.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: And then you see that woman in person, go, oh
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: my god, she is beautiful, carry ulf and everything.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: It's not even like the the camera, which is a mechanism,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: cannot capture that beauty.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: It is not made right to capture that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: And other people know how to cheat it with a
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: little facial expression and oppose you like you can be
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: cute all you want them pictures an ugly motherfucker.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: In real life, And I love beauty. Do you like
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: butterflies and trees and nature and other beautiful people?
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Do you like that?
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Because you know some beautiful people that just have a
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: bad day all day. Everything just pissed them off.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: They just mad all day.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: And I am not prejudice in any kind of way.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I am not race prejudiced in any kind of way.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I can sit around and tell jokes about racial jokes
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: about everybody amongst us, and it's all in love. I
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: got a song right now called Don't Say the R.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I'm about to change the title to It's a five
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: letter word because it's addressing the word nigga, and I'm like,
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: it's a five letter word.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: It's just a five letter word, nigga.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: And I literally, all my entire adult life, I refer
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: to every race as my nigga, then my Asian niggas,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: and then the white niggas over there, then my niggas.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Like it's called everybody nigga, Like nigga would like women,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, nigga, what is the fuck up?
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And that is not a good thing for everybody to.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Accept, because what if like one of the Asian niggas like, no,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: you my nigga, and they running back in the bay.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: We did run it back, though we run it back
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: a little bit to a certain extent. Mean, Filipinos call
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: each other nigga in the bay, let's.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Do Mexicans And.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I could, But that's because where
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: are you from.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, somewhere right now is full white boys
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: who act like black dudes. When nobody else is around.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: They call each other nigga. They're doing it right now.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: We don't approve of it, but it's reality. I don't
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: care what they doing. I'm saying to me when I
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: walk in the room, I'm like, hey, bru, I want
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: you to beat my Arab niggas. These niggas cool as fuck.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: That's how we talk.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: And I made a song about it, and it's kind
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: of itchy, a little itchy, like you're like, so what
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: are you saying? And I'm like, I'm saying, if you
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: ever uttered that word out your mouth, it better be
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: a five other word.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Defib ain't working the music.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I know it's gonna get somebody's ass.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Nigga or nigger is going to get.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if you dare, it's never a six
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: letter word ever. Ever. Ever.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: That's just a tidbit of of advice, Like you know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not telling you how to use it. I'm just
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: telling you this is what this is. And we dropped
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: the R a long time ago. The R you get
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: your ass whipped.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I know that the Mount Westmore thing. Don't none otherwise
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: like too Short do this. Let's think about it.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: I think that everybody has positioned themselves in the clearest
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: space that you know, we don't roll with Short like that.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: That's our guy. Short's the guy. So I'm definitely.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely, and I you know, I know how to
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: walk up and say ship like like, you know, one
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: time I saw Cuban his wife, I was like, man,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I remember that time back in eighty nine when you
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: had first met her, and he was like, man, I
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: think I found the one. And he was like, tell
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: that story of getting in front of her, you know,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: because it's a true story. But he would think that
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I'm the guy who like, Nigga, let's go to Magic City.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: But actually I'm you know, I condone your behavior. And
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: I admired that all three of those guys are married
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: to their high school sweetheart. That's amazing and hip hop.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: The high school sweetheart is your sweetheart right now?
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: That is a you remember that you remember when he
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: said he found the one.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because he had left the tour and went to
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Hawaii or some shit, and he came back showing off
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: the pictures and he was like, I think I found
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: the one.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: He wasn't lying, wow, and he kept her.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: And we know we know snoop story, you know, But fortyopt,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: I have my hands in the air, like I just said,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: we know his story. Oh for the year, Snoop had
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of you know, outside trying to throw and
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: all that shit.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: But forty.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Forty, I swear to god, I've been knowing this brother
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: my entire adult life. We show the show is over.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: We're playing dominoes, we're talking ship playing cards. Forty is like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: do not bring them bitches around me, don't bring the
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: bitches in my room.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I ain't got no conversation for him.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: That niggas like I love my wife.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: When he was a young nigga like rock star status,
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: He's like, I ain't thinking about these holes out here,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: and that's just been his thing. I'm like, We're gonna
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: play a couple of games of dominoes, but go fuck
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: with the hole. See niggas later, you know, up all
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: night crew. The niggas go to bed, I'd be out
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: for a year, not more for me.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, do like you.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. They positioned themselves where there they
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: don't have to explain what they're doing out with two
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: shot any of that stuff. And I think I was like,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: but they say, we're not I am who I am,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: but I'm not a bad influence. I'm not trying to
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: make you be what I am.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: And the positions.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: And I saw the Tank the other day. I was
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: at a restaurant in in Atlanta and I was just
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: sitting there and I'm looking at the bar. I'm like,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: this nigga looked like Tank.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: And I said it about three times. I was like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go see this nigga.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: Nigga looked that much like Tank, and it was Tank,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: And you know, we shopping it up, we laughing and
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: ship and I'm like, I'm like, we about to go
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: hit the strip club.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I just got the town that niggas say, Nigga.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: I have a real wife, too short, And you know
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: that's that's the space that you need to not be
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: lured into what I might do.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: And that night would have they probably would have he
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: would have gotten.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: But you know, depending on the night, me and my
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: wife would go together. My wife likes the Script club.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: But that's cool. But what are you doing when you're
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: not with her? That's what you know.
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: I'm going, I'm going, don't even be nowhere, and they
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: only goes to the strip club when she want to go.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: I never You've never seen my social media from my perspective,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: you have never seen me post anything of where I'm
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: at and what I'm seeing.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I've never done it.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: I've never asked anybody to hold the camera behind me
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: and like capture me in a moment. I've never done
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: that ever. But I got people that be with me,
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: and I got women in my life who fucking are
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: like CSI investigators, and they be like, right there the homies,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: that's Graham, and right there your hands on her ass.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like I was clapping.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: It looked like that. If you look at the right angle,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: just far away from her, like.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: That's your hand on her ass. I've been I've been
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: through it. I've been through it. As No, I am
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: not holding her titty. I am literally like this, my
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: hand's way out in the camera. It's two d it's
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: not showing that I'm not touching, but that's the story.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Of my life.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I could be completely wrong with this, but in my mind,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like you were like the I remember talking
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: about moving to Atlanta.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: That wasn't from Atlanta.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: When I got to Atlanta. I moved to Atlanta nineteen
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: ninety three. When I got there, Eric Simon was already
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: there left Eyes from Philly I only if you want
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: to call her aper, but TLC was just about to emerge.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown was there. He kind of a rapper. He
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: a rapper, yes, And Bobby Brown was my like it
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: was my like my spiritual guidance. Uh.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: When I got to Atlanta. He didn't really tell me
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: what to do, but I kicked back and watched him.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: I watched Bobby Brown how he moved around Magic City.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, that's what I want to do. What
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: was it about Atlanta? Did you want to be there?
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: There was a very violent war going on in Oakland
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: at the time, in the young nineties, and I was
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: just out doing shows and kicking in and doing stuff.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: And I got to.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Atlanta for the Freak Nick ninety three and we just
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: had so much fun that it left the impression on me.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: I literally came for thread day trip and stayed for
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: two weeks, and then I came back for this convention.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: I used to have called Jack the Rapper, which was
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Freak Nickson April. Jack the Rappers was like in August
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: and I literally just I had the homie, one of
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: the homies from Oakland already lived out in Atlanta.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, show me some properties, and I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: went out. I bought it. I just bought a house
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: that day.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: He's when bought the house and I snuck out there
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: and and it was it was things like like in California,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: La and the Bay at that time, if you saw
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: a police officer in a car and you in your car,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: he's gonna pull you over and give you a ticket
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: for something like something. They might pull you over and
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: search you. They might pull you over and just fuck
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: your day up for a little while some kind of way.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: But Atlanta, the police was pulling up next to you
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: at the night time about what's up?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Brother? I love your music. I'm like, I like this place. Man.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: I remember I was in Atlanta and I called one
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: of the homies in Oakland's say that Nigga the police
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: just spoke to me and said what's up. That was
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: like a big deal. The police just said, Hi the fuck.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, I want to go here? Where all
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: this black excellences. I love the fact that it was
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: a melting pot. I also have previous history with Atlanta.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: I went to seventh grade, half of seventh grade, and
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: half of eighth grade in Atlanta schools and lived in
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: College Park. A lot of people that I knew from
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: those years knew that I was too short. Later on,
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: when I got back to Atlanta in the nineties, we reconnected.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: I already had some infrastructure, some family and friends, and
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: I had a love for the city. So it was
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: the right place at the right time. And I tell you, man,
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: it turned out better than I thought because I ended
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: up working with guys like Jazzy Fay who's from memphisin
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: and See but who came up in Atlanta, and guys
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: like Little John who was born and raised in Atlanta,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: and they gave me a different feel to my music,
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: which we kind of helped each other by me being
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: a multi platinum artist back to back to back, fucking
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: with them at a young time in their career, and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: then by them having that new fresh sound that I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: wasn't on and kind of extending my career into going
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: from just being a rapper in the trunk. I used
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: to make a music for cars. I just wanted you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: to play my shit in the car. I don't fucking
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: dance club, fuck anything. That I started making songs a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Little John, and now I'm thinking I'm on a song
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: this at the club.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, let me try this new shit.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: So Little John loved you, AQB.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Atlanta worked out for me really good, and it was
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: some of the best years of my life as far as.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: I moved to Atlanta when I was twenty seven and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: I stayed there for fifteen years, and it was like
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: it was life changing, man.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: At that age, I'm like, you know, I'm a I'm
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: at Magic City and the club closes and then like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: everybody leave and I'm just like sitting there, ain't going nowhere.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I'm hanging out.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: I'm in the I'm in the dressing room while the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: ladies is putting their clothes on, smoking a joint and
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: just you know, titties everywhere, and just I was I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: was loving, loving it, man. I had a really good
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: you know late twenties thirties in Atlanta. It was amazing,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: and you also.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Wanted the rappers. I think few a few rappers who
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: had a relationship with both Big and.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Pop am Pop jay Z everybody we you know, I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: was first of all, I'm the big Homi. They when
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: they asked me this question. You really can't picture what
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: the situation was at the time. Everybody you name, you name,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: you name a list of rappers, and then you go
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: look at the years that we were out. By the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: time these guys are just now coming out, I'm already
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: on like the third fourth platinum album. So if jay
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Z is like, I want two short on an album,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: it's not like the jay Z you're looking at now
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: calling the two short you're looking at now. It was
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: the little homie calling the big homie like bro, when
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: you get on my album and I'm like cool, like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: big when I got to call a puff, Puff gave
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: me the call Big on you on the song I'm
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: like cool and the world is filled. I could tell
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: you one thing about me though, and I've been on
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: I've been featured on dozens and dozens and dozens up
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: into the hundreds of people's songs I have very rarely,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: very rarely called anybody and say, hey, do a song
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: with me. All the songs you hear me with somebody
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: else they called me, And that's just I take pride
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: in that. And I know the secret to all of
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: it is I'm the big hummy. I did it before them,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: and it means something. It means something. If you can
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: get too short on the song, it meant something. It
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: was especially on the East Coast they was. I mean,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: they didn't even nobody on the East Coast fucked with
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: me before. I did a song with Eric sermon that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: It was called by you sound and it goes shot
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: woo ha, and Eric Simon brought that shit to New York.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: The song broke in Atlanta, made it in Atlanta. We
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: used to be neighbors, and he brought that ship to
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: New York and he started moving around New York. Next
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: thing I know, Jay Z wanted to do a song
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: with me Little Kim. We were in the studio doing
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: uh call Me for the Booty Call soundtrack, and then
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: next thing you know, I'm I used to be like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: on the I remember the one time I was on
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: the elevator in New York City and the bellman was
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: bringing my luggage up and he was like, what you do.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I rapped. He's like, oh yeah, rap, what
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: kind of what wraps you do?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Like what you do?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, I just did a show last week
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and Big Daddy Cane open for me.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: He's like, shut the fuck up, the bellman, Nigga, Big
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Daddy Kane ain't open for you.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: He taking my luggage to my room. I was like,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: okay with me. It was on the same show.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, he wasn't my opening nec, but I went
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: on after him, like the fuck out of here, Big
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Daddy can going on before you.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: And it was just it was just he didn't he
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: never heard it too short, like he's lying as motherfuckering
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: you know rapper.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: But finally when the doors open did a song little
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: Kim Foxy Brown, you know, Jay's see Big and I'll
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: go through.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: The streets in New York and they'd be like, what
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: up about Jay? Respect, I'm like, damn, y'all know me?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Did you understand?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 8: I mean, you felt it because like people were getting
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: to know you in a different place, but did you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: understand really how you were ushering in a sound to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: a whole other coast, like how major that was at
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: the time when it was happening.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: You don't think like that in the moment, you do
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: not think.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I never thought about longevity, never thought about legendary, never
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: thought about multi platinums, none of that shit.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: You just live in the moment.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: I thought about how much money I was getting as
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: an independent and how it was coming in. But we
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: were regional. We couldn't break the whole world or the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: whole country. And then I signed the Jive Records, and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, everybody knows my shit and I'm
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: selling millions of records. And then the fucking check comes
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: and I see the check and I'm like, I've been
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: rapping years, ten years, see this fucking check. I'm like, oh,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: I have to wrap my ass off now, like let's go.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: And it was just I was more or less like
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: if you go check check the numbers too. I was
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: dropping albums like every nine, ten eleven months, and I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: was I was rapping faster than everybody else. They're like, well,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: it's not the same quality, but I was doing those
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: numbers and.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I wasn't.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: I was working so fast, having so much fun, doing
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: so many tours. I was not thinking like the long
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: version of what the effects would be. I was thinking, like,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: this is what they're giving me right now for this
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: this how much I make per show? Nikka, lets hustle,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: let's go with me, Let's go. We're gone, I'm out.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: I called my girlfriend and said I'm getting ready to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: go on tour. I see you when I get back.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: I love you, and never talk to her again.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Lord, God damn Todd.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: How did she feel about that?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: She hated me?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she used to blow my pager up with evil,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: evil coded numbers and you turn it upside.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Down, go the hell and.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: Was like, nah, no, the album gotta drop.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: But in reality, I was madly in love and then
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: I was madly in love with her, and then I
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: got on this stage and I was madly in love
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: with that, and I'm like, I just could not take
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: anybody romantically through the journey of what was calling me,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: which was I call it rock star, but yeah, it
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: was calling me. I just wanted that loud, I wanted
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: I wanted to enjoy that shit, And do you regret
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: it now? I think that it would have been a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: different path of what my life would have been had
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: I stayed with so and so settled down. I would
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: literally have kids that would be like fucking thirty something,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: thirty eight forty two years old right now, and it
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: would have been a different life. I know that whatever happened,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: whatever happened to me when I got to Atlanta, the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: turning the corner of you know, the music and the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: dance music, none of that shit would.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: Have happened because you had to be outside for that.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be no shake that money, no blow to whistle,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: none of that would have happened.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you feel like being independent kind of leaned into
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: that as well too, because you were working, you had
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 8: to figure out so much.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: I'm assuming, well independent.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was independent. I always had an independent mentality.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: But when we signed the Majors, we still function like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: we were independent.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: And I think that.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: Just my connection to the fan base was it comes
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: from stems from that independent style of like you have
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: to act somebody want.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: To buy the ship, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Like, even when we were selling music in the stores,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: they say two shorts sold this shit out the trunk.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: We would have the boxes saying boxes we sold to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: the record stores in the back of the truck, like
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: you want to buy a fucking album or cassette here.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: But you know, you guys keep trying to find this regret.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: There's no regret.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: That's gonna sound like a little bit like you have
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: some thought.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: It's like we have these crossroads in life. We all
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: come across the crossroads. Do you want to stay on
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: the path that you on, you want to go back
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: to where you came from, or you want to go
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: on these.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: New paths left and right? What do you do on
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: the crossroads.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: I had so many opportunities to change my lifestyle, and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: I chose to do what I did.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: It could have been so many different stories, but I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: just didn't do that.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: Atlanta would have been a great place to just find them,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: raise a family, stay there. You know, I would have
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: been on love and hip hop, all this shit. You know,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: it would have been a different lifestyle. But whatever it
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: would have been, I would have been a hustler. I'm
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: pretty sure I would have survived the game.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: But I took this path. Yeah, two more.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: Questions, because I don't think you it doesn't sound like
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: that to me that you have any regrets. I'm looking Yes,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: you had over twenty solo Studio albums across the span
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: of four decades.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of fucking music.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of studio sessions, a lot of work,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: a lot of neglect, and a relationship would have been
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: involved in that. A lot of absenteef follerism would have
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: been involved in that.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: And I didn't want that. I didn't want to.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: So you technically saved the girl because you would have
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: took her down the whole road of pain and hurt few.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Of the.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: What works for you, what works for you. But that's bullshit.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, he forty got thirty solo albums, cut it out.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: He's forty studios at his house.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: It was fifty albums in by blow the Whistle.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: You could quote your niggas be out of the at
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: the club chasing his pussy and ship nigga my pussy
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: right up the hall.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: That's a quote from him.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: You've got twenty three solo albums.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Have it your way man. Snoop Dogg is and anomaly.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: He's a one off. He's the most popular guy on Instagram.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: He is in the world. He's Snoop Dogg Country.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: He is the most recognized rapper on the planetary. He's
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: the first rapper.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I ever seen old ass white ladies about to fall
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: on their knees like snoop dogg. You can have a picture,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: but I respected doggie.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: When when women talk like how you're talking and they're
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: like you just didn't want to get married or whatever,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: they're applauded for it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: So mm hmm are they yes?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 8: No, I don't want to get married. I wonder way
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: I don't want to have it today? They get dragged
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: and they kind of dragon. Yes, they call them cat ladies.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 8: You want to be by yourself?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: Somebody?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Who am I? If I'm just if I'm in a
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry movie my whole life? Who am I? What?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: How does that reflect in the music in the house
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: trying to kill each other?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: I love it? More questions? What's easier to sell musical?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Definitely pussy, but you gotta have a talent to even
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: do that. What's easier to sell from the the owner
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: of the pussy or like somebody who's directing the pussy
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: like a pimp a pimp? Definitely pussy. Yeah, definitely pussy,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: because you know the pussy at least has a brain.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: It can let float and go out and find customers.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Music.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: You gotta push that ship, you gotta, I would, but
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: I would take the music over pimpin any day, any
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: day because because the music does not come with built
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: in uh penitentiary chances.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but I think pussy Pussy is an easy
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: sell man. And I think.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: I think that when our sub genres, when we get
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: our sub genres together, it should be a version of
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: hip hop should be called whole rap.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Stripper wrapping.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: Whole rap should be two different things, you know, So
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: theysy wrap now it's different. Like I need whole rap
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: to be in its own category because this this vague hoen.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Give me an example, who's the whole rap?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: Anybody who said you gotta cash at me for a date,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: that's hoen. Stripper rap is I'm gonna say that ass
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: on your face and make it rain on me. That's
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: tripper wrapping.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Mhmm.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Chark culture is amazing now. That is that has been
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: around in hip hop because it goes beyond before hip hop.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: But in hip hop, we have been consistently supporting tworking
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: since the late eighties early nineties, and it's going strong,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: like you put on put on a song, like Future
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: Wicked ooh, and like Nigga, I did.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Not know my school teacher could shake that monkey. Still
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: right now, shake that monkey. It'll bring out the church
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: ladies period and they.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Last question, you spent your whole career telling people to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: get money, you know, motivation music. What if someone asked,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: sixty year old too short? What should they really be chasing?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: What would you tell them?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: If you want to be really focused and be on point.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: I think the whole we get older and we start
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: understanding what the older people were telling us about building wealth,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: we as youngsters are conditioned to show off. I think
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: that goes way back in African culture. To you want
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: to fuck the chief's daughter, you got to pull up
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: with like twenty goats and some cows and some offerings. Yeah,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: you gotta be tattered up and painted up and shit
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: to look like, you know, the proper present representation for
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: the chief's daughter. And we just show us by nature. Man,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: we'll show offs in our culture because we are to
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: have nots and when we have we want everybody to
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: know we got it.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: And we were.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Subjected to the older people older than us getting a
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Cadillac riding by like ooh, I want to be like
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: slick willy like that's the thing.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: And I think that.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: Wealth building is something that we don't take seriously as youngsters.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: What about all the wealth that slipped through our community
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: in the form of crack cocaine. Crack cocaine was a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: lot of jewelies, a lot of cars, a lot of
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: money spent, a lot of fucking off. But what if
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: krack come came the main offspring of that was all
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: the property that we bought. We literally had all the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: money to buy up our own communities, and we didn't
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: do shit. We bought a bunch of cars and jewelry
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: and painted the motherfucking the same car five different times
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: instead of buying the abandoned buildings right across the street.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: That probably was way cheaper than the cars it was buying.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: So when we get older we think back on it,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: but we didn't actually do it in real time, and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: I think that that was one that got away. Hip
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: hop is another one that's slipping through our fingers right
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: now as we speak. The wealth that has been generated
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: from the beginning to hip hop till now hasn't really
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: trinkled down to build up the communities that the rappers
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: came from. I think that's another missed opportunity that at
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: some point we're going to have to realize, young and old,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: that we have to build wealth, not just for our
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: generational wealth, for our family.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Like we regurgitate that a lot. We got to build up.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: The communities, man, and we keep finding ways to get
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: this money, but look at the neighborhoods and we don't
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: see it. And I don't know why, collectively, as black millionaires,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: we don't do something collectively. It's like you get all
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: this shit and you're like, this is my shit. Like,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know why we don't see that. If we
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: were having what we have and now, and we were
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: the black people of the fifties and sixties, we would
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: probably invest in community. But us black people are the eighties,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: nineties and beyond, we were like, nigga, this is mine
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: and we just don't see it that way. So I
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: think the mentality needs to change in wealth building. Is
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: wealth just money or is it the comfort of our
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: full community? Is it the well being of the kids,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: Is it the schools? Like we fucked up in so
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: many ways that I think we're all sitting on the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: resources to this day to fix it. But we don't
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: see it that way. You're like, I'm gonna lead these
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: millions to my kids. We're like, but what about where
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: we came from? I don't know, man, somebody need to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: call it. We need like a like a big boss
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: fairy con type to be like calling martial law. And
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: it's like your niggas gotta kick in. We got to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: kick into the community fund. Something gotta happen.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: M hmm.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: It's too Short, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: His new album Sir, Too Short, Bomb two Drinking Smoke
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Sample is out right now.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us many.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the therapy.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: It's to and it didn't work.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: I feel things don't work for everybody.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Every day a week ago, click your ass up the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: breakfast club.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: You don't finish for y'all. Dump