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The Beastial Life of the Blood Countess | Elizabeth Bathory · Beheaded

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to Beheaded.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: This is season four, episode three.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Megan Moore.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm Elizabeth Black.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm overly impressed because Elizabeth just did our entire sound check in an Australian accent.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Try not I like I I still can't compose myself.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know what's funny?
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because like you everyone thinks they can do accents, right?
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I try to do British sometimes on this podcast.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't quite hit.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: But somehow I can do Australian really well.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to do it now because now I'm like on the spot.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: I have to like practice off off air.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: But it was good, right?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know where it came from.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's pretty good.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: I told her it's because I've been watching a lot of Limitless.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Now I can't do it.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: I can't replicate it.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Chris Hemsworth?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Chris Hemsworth?
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: I can't replicate it.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: I have to do it off.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: We're super goofy tonight.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_02: We cannot get it together.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: We're so goofy.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: We're I we're having a moment.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: We're having a goofy moment.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know how to fix it.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: We can't.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: We just gotta power through.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta stop laughing.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll keep the giggles to a minimum.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: This is a very serious episode we're doing.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's got a lot of blood in it.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it's not as serious as some of our Holocaust episodes.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: No, you're right.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Really poor taste when we get the giggles and in those ones.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Those are very recent.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but this one is gory.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: This is some might say as gory as Roman Coliseum.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think that was one of our most gore, and I think this will be the second goriest.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: Not quite Roman Coliseum, but like more gore than we usually do.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: And we like gore.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: We do.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: More gore than Kora.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: More gore than core.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: Or girl core.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait tonight.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: Look at your face.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'll stop looking at your face.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: We'll start looking in opposite directions.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so sorry.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: I've been delirious.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's right after Thanksgiving.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: Today was our first day back to work.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean your first day.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: Megan had to work a lot.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I work in customer service, so Black Friday for us Americans, that is like not a day off for customer service.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's not really a thing in other countries, right?
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because they don't have Thanksgiving.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: So they don't have a Black Friday.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: Do you all in other countries have a day where you excessively shop?
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: Is that a day?
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: Or is that just an American thing?
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Should we pause and let them respond?
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: Please respond.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Go.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like Dora, we did that in another episode, the awkward pause.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: We did do that.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, so Thanksgiving is obviously a very big deal here in the States.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then the Friday after is Black Friday, where all the shopping deals happen.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then today was Cyber Monday, so all the shopping online, and we work for an online retail store, so it's just been a little bit of a shit show.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: But poor Megan was back home in California, right?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: And you just had to work kind of round the clock while you were there, which is really unfortunate.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_02: I you know, I can't complain.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: I had two Thanksgivings, which was really nice.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_02: Nice, yeah.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: Because my parents and my husband, my husband's parents, they live like five minutes apart.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: And we kind of do dual Thanksgiving, we bounce between the two of them.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I had about four slices of pumpkin pie.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, fabulous.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I didn't have any pumpkin pies around.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: There was so many sweets, and I ate literally everything else.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, my my dad was in town, so we just me and Robbie did a thing with my dad, which was nice.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um Robbie discovered pickleball, which is like the newest craze in the world, and he is obsessed.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: And like I'm a very competitive person, but I'm also like I think a perfectionist where I have like avoidance tendencies.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: So if I'm not good at something right away, I'm like, yo, I gotta practice by myself for like three days before I come back.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I did a couple games and I wasn't great, and then I was just like subbed out.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was immediately like taken off of the like court, and I was like, all right, and that's fine because I don't want to embarrass myself.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: But Robbie took to it quick and was just playing literally every hour of daylight.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's fun.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_02: I've never played pickleball, but I play tennis.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm on a tennis league.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you'd be good at pickleball, I guess.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I mean we kind of make fun of pickleball because it's in the tennis realm.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's like a less athletic version of what's a smaller version of tennis.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, I'm on a 2.5 women's league, so I pretty much have to brag.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: For those who don't know tennis, 2.5 is like the entry level, the first level that you can get into, even though I've been playing for years.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I just don't really advance.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_02: Your score is better than that, right?
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, I don't know scoring.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a very competitive person, so while I probably could work really hard and get better, I actually just enjoy being bad.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like I just enjoy going for fun.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I I shouldn't say I enjoy being bad.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like no one wants to be bad, but I don't know.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think you're bad.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not bad.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_02: I can carry on a good game.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like I've I've won singles matches, like I'm not terrible.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and you're one of the better ones on your team, no?
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Should we not say that because you have listeners from your team?
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_02: I that's questionable.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_02: There are definitely better people than me on my team.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not just saying that because some people listen, but no, it's honest.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's weird.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: But I just enjoy it.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not that competitive.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't I don't get angry if I lose.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to have fun.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I've never played like formal tennis, like I've hit some balls around or whatever.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: But tip pickleball's weird because it's such a smaller racket.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: So like when I expect there to be like a larger racket where I can hit the ball further, you know what I mean?
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like I I was missing it a lot, just like missing the ball because I was like, oh, it doesn't go that far.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's weird.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a little tiny paddleboard thing, you know what I mean?
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a I'm gonna try.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's very they just had like the celebrity pickleball tournament.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: And Emma Watson was in it.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Our girl Emma Watson.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you're listening, just longtime listener of the show.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: Your dad smoked a turkey though, right?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: He did, yeah.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: He smoked a turkey.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Robbie made a bunch of dishes because he loves to cook.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I made a few things.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, it was one of those dinners where like everything just came out great.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like, nothing was burnt, nothing was late, like everything came out all on time hot.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: And we were really impressed with each other.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: We're all like complimenting each other at the table.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: And like it was one of the better Thanksgivings I've had in a long time.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like in recent years, I don't know if it's COVID or what, but I feel like sometimes holidays just decline a little as you get older, like they're not as memorable and magical, you know, as the times when you were a kid.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: And this one was good.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh, I was like, I felt like we're back.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_02: I felt like this was the first year where COVID wasn't the center of the topic and we didn't feel, I don't know, super like overly cautious, where the past couple years it was very limited.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was a nice year.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's good.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: So we're coming off of that weekend, having eaten too much and drinking too much, and we're a little loopy, but we're back.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: Just crazy.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: And we also have to plug because the day before Thanksgiving, really cool show came out.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think we've mentioned it yet.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, we didn't on the last episode.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: I have to say though, I went back and when I was editing that episode.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: So we we were talking about sex, blood, and royalty, which we also said wrong about four times.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_02: We called it blood sex.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it is royalty.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't actually remember the order of things.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think sex, blood, and royalty.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I still thought it was blood sex.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: Blood sex shit.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: Should we look at it?
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: We should probably Google it.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: And let's commit um the acronym to our memory.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: Blood sex.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're right.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: BSR.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: Blood, sex, and royalty.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Blood first, then the sex, then the royal.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: That seems backwards.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: You think it should be sex first?
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: It should be sex addict mega.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: It should be sex.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: Royalty first.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: Royalty and then blood.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: But an order of regality.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Or royalty, royalty, then blood.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: Then sex, then blood.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: I like that order.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Whoever decided this order.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's alphabetical.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: No, wait, Q R S.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: Anyways.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I realize we talked about this show in the last episode.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: We never even said what it was about.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: We just got really excited about it.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: We never explained.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes we do that.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: We get ahead of ourselves and we just for us, this is very conversational.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like you were here when Elizabeth and I just carry on the conversation.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: We had had, we've been talking for hours, and then all of a sudden we should probably record this, and then we just start talking.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's probably true.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, no, but Blood, Sex, and Royalty is on Netflix.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: First three episodes are about Anne Boleyn.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: And it's mixed reviews, but I personally, yeah, I will be the first to say, I love it.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm such a fan.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: I want to watch it again.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: I love anything, and I think we've talked about this on this show where it does the dramatic reenactments, and then the historians kind of cut in and give their take.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just love that format because when you watch it, you're like, oh, did that really happen?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, did he really write her letters?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: And then you have Susanna Liscombe being like, in Henry's letters, and you're like, oh yes, like an amazing cast.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's very validating.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very good cast of historians.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: I like the actors.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I did make Robbie watch it.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: He wasn't a huge fan of the modern music, and me and Megan had to sit him down and be like, no, it's that that's what people don't like about it.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I get it.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: There are obviously like obviously she didn't have like bright pink lipstick.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: And Henry's hair looked amazing in it.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: He had this like very modern He's very dashing.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh I really like this Henry.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: My mom and I watched it together because I was there for the holidays, and it was so funny.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: It was like our routine at eight o'clock at night.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we climbed into my mom's like bed, and I was okay, we gotta watch because I was there, was or uh, what was I there?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I was there Wednesday, Thursday, Friday night.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: So we had the three nights.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: Nice, and or like, okay, we gotta go watch the show, and we would just like go to bed really early and and watch watch the show.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, but we were just like cracking up over how amazingly hot Henry was with his hair.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: Anne was so cute, and I'm cute, you know, her coloring, her complexion may not be accurate, but I loved her as an actress, she was just so witty and kind of funny, but yeah, they would tie in the modern music, the very bright colored clothes and the fabrics, and it was you just have to kind of take it like Marie Antoinette, where it had a little, a little funk to it.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's intentional, right?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like obviously, they're not trying to be like this is a historically accurate program.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you have the historians for that bit, but the rest is like again trying to appeal to like younger demographics, like pull people in that might not normally be into this story.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm about any kind of expression.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to do to the T exactly historically accurate, great.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to take your own liberties just to get more people involved in the story, and then they can do their own research, sure, that's fine too.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: If you want it truly historically accurate, then cool.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: No one wears makeup, everyone stinks.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no one has their hair washed.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I I I like where they took it.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, the cast, uh, Dr.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Susanna Lipscomb, Tracy Borman, Dr.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Owen Emerson, um, Lauren McKay.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_03: Lauren McKay.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: We had a couple of reshares from some of these historians, which was exciting.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: A new historian on the block, the lady from UCLA.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm blanking on her name.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: Great job.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: Great job.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember her name either.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but also I know we've been plugging it, but we do have some more guests coming up.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: And yes, we do.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: If you listen to last week's episode, or was it two weeks ago?
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: If I'm talking in the future to the past Megan.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_02: We talk we time travel a lot in this show.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we we had James Peacock on um from Hampton Court Palace and the Queen Ambulance Society.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: He was such a great interview.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: I I really enjoyed that interview.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: James is great, yeah.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: He's so fun.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: So again, more things to expect um because obviously we have more connections now that we've been doing this a few years.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, James Peacock was wonderful.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was one of those things where, you know, this was our first interview together, me and Megan both on it.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Because obviously you had Steph.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's true.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: But I guess Steph, I consider more of like a friend.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Hi Steph.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: Hey Steph.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas like this, like we didn't really know the person very well.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: We were kind of like, hey, we have like questions about you and your work and all of that.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: True.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: And so we did a good job, I think, of just like, you know, uh uh alternating the the questions, and it was our first time doing that, and I think it was good.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we want your feedback on that because we definitely want to do more interviews and introduce you to more experts.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because while Elizabeth and I are very smart, we're definitely the experts.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: I just got a really funny message on Instagram.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sweet, sweet sweet woman.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think it came from a positive place, but called us out on our terrible pronunciations.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: But we also get ahead of that.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to say that we always warn you like we're you know we're gonna butcher the names.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: We've got some butchering tonight going on.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: We're from the southwest in America, y'all.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like we can't, we can't sound as fancy.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: And like even when British historians re like cover the same material we do and say the exact same thing, they just sound better.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm sorry.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: We're just we're we're we're doing our best.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I've mentioned this before on this show too, but like sometimes we even practice, like, we'll write down the pronunciation, we'll practice with each other, like the right way to say it.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: We just did that for like 15 minutes.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: We just pulled up names that we're about to say, and we did the whole Google like pronunciate this for me, and we're still gonna get it wrong.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's just it's one of those things like once you're on the mic, it's a hot mic, you just say what's in your brain, and it's probably wrong.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, when we start going, I forget the microphone is here, and I feel like it's just you and I talking.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's what it is.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe we should try harder.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe we need to take this more serious.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: We don't take this seriously.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: If you're here for a serious podcast, goodbye.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: As Megan said in episode one, if you're looking for what'd you say?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: You were like, if you're looking for the real story, ain't gonna find it here.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: We are a way to sell us on the first episode.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: Historically inaccurate.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, we generally know things about things and we make some things.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: We drink and we know things.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good way to put it.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but we have a gory episode tonight.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: And Elizabeth already pointed out that our our person of the evening has her same initials.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: Initials.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: Why did I say it like that?
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Initials.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Initials.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Initials.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Initials.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: Initials.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: E B initials.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yes, our lovely lady of the evening is none other than the blood countess herself, Elizabeth Battery.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: This one's a little bit unique.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to reveal endings.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: We won't reveal endings.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: We've had endings.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: We've got twist execution endings here.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: You won't know until the end.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: So you have to listen for the next 30 minutes to figure it out.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: Whoa.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: The Blood Countess.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: The Blood Countess, aka some call her the Countess Dracula as well.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: We'll talk about why that is, but Megan's gonna lead us off.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, just because I'm starting with early life, don't take it the wrong way, folks.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: Elizabeth Bathory, she's born in Hungary August 7th, 1560.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: Her parents are a baron and a baroness, so she's already being born into nobility and she's very wealthy.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: Her parents were first cousins.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: Ew.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty incestuous.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: And that's important.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: I want you to remember this that they are first cousins because there's a lot of history of mental illness, physical illness, just weird things going on in their family.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: And in this day and age, it isn't weird to marry your first cousin, right?
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like we've heard that a lot on this podcast, but I do think it comes into play in this story.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think absolutely it does.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll put a pin in that.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: She's, like I said, she's born very wealthy.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: She's the niece of the king of Poland.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: He's also the Prince of Transylvania.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: He had like a few different titles.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: He had a lot.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: He was important.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Grand Duke of Lithuania, Prince of Transylvania, which I finally got like fed up of hearing the word Transylvania, and I was like, okay, I've heard this my whole life.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: I always thought it was like a fictional land.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what the hell is this?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: They have a great hotel.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Hotel Transylvania.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Adam Sandler goes there.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was uh it's a it's a like ancient region in Romania.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I always thought Transylvania was like encompassed in multiple countries, but it's actually very small.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just an area of Romania.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really it.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: I could get into the details of the geography, but that's all you really need to know, I think.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: So like an area in Romania.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: Good job.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um Stephen Bathory was his name, though.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: Her uncle.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: As a young child, not only was she like very privileged, very spoiled, grew up very wealthy.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Talk about the physical issues.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: She had seizures and epilepsy.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, at the time they didn't know what that was.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: They called it the falling sickness.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: But she grew up kind of like all eyes on her all the time, very entitled.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: And they would do these different practices to try to cure this quote-unquote falling sickness, which as we know now is is just epilepsy.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: Some of these practices was they would put the blood of a healthy person on her lips.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Which was odd.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's supposed to, I don't know, it's like almost like a medicinal thing, like you know, like here's the medicine of someone who doesn't have this condition.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: Lick it up.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Lick it up.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's gross.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: What all these references of blood though and issues are all gonna come into play.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: They would also take pieces of the skull of someone who was non-epileptic or like non-falling sickness and make them eat it.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: I also very weird things.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: When I think about that, like because they mixed again the blood and the skull of a healthy person.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Did they like get a fresh healthy person?
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Did they just knock a knock a person dead in the village?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Or was this like a recently dead person who was also healthy, but what did they die of?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: If there's a Transylvanian out there who has these fats, please let us know.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but she was very educated despite these medical situations.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: She knew Latin, Greek, German, obviously Hungarian.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um she was also a little bit risque.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: So this is not confirmed.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: However, there's a lot of evidence that points towards it that by the time she was 13, she gave birth and a peasant boy fathered the baby.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: So it was pretty confirmed that she did have a child, just again, like a whoops baby with this peasant boy.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um she was quickly after that betrothed to somebody who was about four years older than her.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, his name was Ferenik uh Natsu, if I'm saying that correctly.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: And uh so they kind of just pushed this whole thing under the rug.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: They gave the baby away, just were very hush-hush about it.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: There is a rumor that Federic, her her new fiance, actually had the peasant boy captured, castrated, and then fed his body to wild dogs.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we don't know if that's entirely accurate, but we do know for sure that there was a baby.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so but the baby was again like completely just removed from her and her life and never to be spoken of again.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Whether or not the boy was killed, who knows?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: But given the rest of their appetites, I don't think that's far-fetched.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Given that there's already a fresh skull and blood in the mix, you know, I think we can predict these people might have had a nap, like a bloodlust.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: We're just leading up to all the incidents that are about to happen here.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a little foreshadowing.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's when she was 13.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: By the time she was 15, May 8th, 1575.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they were officially married, so they united their two kingdoms, uh, Transylvania and the Kingdom of Hungary.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so they become Count and Countess.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so her husband was obviously very well-to-do.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: He quickly became the chief commander of the Hungarian troops, and they also called him the Black Knight of Hungary because he was known to be again very bloodlusty on the field.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: He helped lead the war against the Ottomans.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, while she kind of stayed at home and managed the family businesses, the estates, like all the things that they had going on in the home front.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he was out there not just commanding armies but slaying people himself.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: And he had this very peculiar, I guess we can call it a family trait.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: He loved to impale his victims.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: So this was a common thing in this era of you know, Transylvania, Hungary at the time, but uh a lot of times in war they would they would impale their victims when they were still alive, essentially, and just have either, again, like wolves come or birds or insects or whatever was around to just kind of pick at their bodies until they died.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: And this is actually a really fun fact.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: But for those of you that have heard of Brahm Stoker's Dracula lot, yes, Dracula actually was based on one of these people who is in this era.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: So going back to um to Elizabeth's uncle Stephen, Steve or Stefan, Stephen?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Stephen, my dad's name is Stephen with a Ph.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, there we go.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: He's a Russian Jew.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: We'll call him Steve then.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um so Stephen Bathory, uh, again, the king of Poland, uh, the Prince of Transylvania, he was actually said to have fought with Vlad III Dracul.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Which, if you know, that is who Count Dracula is based on, because he was also known as Vlad the Impaler.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: He was a very, you know, bloodlusty guy on the battlefield and loved to just torture people and do crazy things because i essentially in this era, anything goes against the Ottomans and the Turks.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: They would just, you know, do the most atrocious things and be completely forgiven because this is war.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you already have that running through again, uh uh Vlad Vlad the Impaler's blood, through her uncle's blood, now through her fiancé's blood.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: All of these people are starting to just show these really dark sides of themselves on the battlefield.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: So while she's at home looking after these estates, her husband's off doing crazy things.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: And when her husband's coming back to visit her, he kind of tells her of all this crazy torture that he's doing, and she's loving it.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: She's loving to hear these stories from the um from the battlefield.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: And we kind of glazed over this, but when she was a young girl, she loved to witness servant beatings.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: She loved to be a part of things that were very violent.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like she didn't shy away from things like that.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: She um she was even said one time uh to be in, I guess, I don't know if it was in the village or they brought this person to the castle, but there was apparently a gypsy that was a uh committed of a crime.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And part of this cr like this punishment for the crime was to sew the gypsy in the belly of a horse.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: A live horse.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: A live horse.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it would like run around.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, the horse is in pain.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: I feel bad for the horse.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like I don't even like I get it.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: The gypsy is also just as innocent, and that's terrible, and that's a terrible way to die.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: But they would cut open a live the belly of a live horse, stuff the gypsy inside, sew the horse up, and then basically whoever died first, it would either be the horse or the gypsy.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes I I never knew this was a form of execution.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: But this is hungry in the in the I guess in the 1500s, so sure.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but eventually sometimes the horse would die first, and the person would still be kicking and screaming on the inside until they just died from suffocation, right?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like ran out of oxygen in there.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: Oof.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's gross.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's gotta be one of the worst execution forms I've heard of.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the most twisted, because obviously we've we've talked a lot in the show about what we talked about, Roman Colosseum, we talked about drawn and quartering, like all of these are disgusting ways to die, but it's weird bestiality that you're also involving animals, like you know what I mean.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's odd, it's very odd.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: So these these Hungarians at the time are um a little crazy, a little crazy, and maybe it's all the incest in their family.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: This was a creative form of execution that we give them that, like very artistic, very creative.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Good for you.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: And you're is there like like in Hunger Games, like a game master, you know what I mean?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Just coming up with the weird shit that yeah, geez.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so she again from a young age did not shy away from any of these things, and she loved when her husband would come home and be like, yo, I impaled three other guys.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: She'd be like, Oh my god, tell me about it.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: What'd they look like?
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: Were their eyes bulging?
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like she was just very into this.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: And aside from that, when her husband again was gone and she was managing these estates, um, they we think we were talking about this before we started recording, but they they held a lot of villagers at the castle uh for for medical reasons.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: So anyone that was kind of hurt in battle, um, you know, any women that were left destitute or kind of off on their own, they would just kind of take in and say, Oh no, like we're here for you, we're looking after you.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: We were saying that seems odd considering everything else in their history, but it must have just been more of a business decision.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we need you to keep working on your estates, you know, like we need we need your physical labor, so we're gonna help like rehabilitate you and get you on your feet.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: I think more than anything, her purpose was to defend her own estates and her own castles.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I think she had a bit of a selfish reason to want to defend the people uh in the village because, in a sense, they're her employers.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: Her employees.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: Her employees, yeah.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: So so anyway, so that's a little bit of her background.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she did start having children.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: So by the time this is 1585, now she was 25, uh, she started having children.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like many of our stories, because some of the kids are less significant and some die at young ages.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know how many she had.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: I have five questions.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: She had at least five.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Some accounts say she had up to nine, but again, that might include some young births or young deaths.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but for sure, five.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: Five are confirmed.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_02: And they all had governesses.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: They weren't, she wasn't a very maternal, motherly, affectionate woman.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: But that's how she grew up as well.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: She would just kind of pass them off to somebody else to take care of.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: Makes sense.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so at this point, there's one woman who comes into uh into this castle, which is the Kashti's castle.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so this castle is essentially the castle that she's living in.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, obviously she's got all these other estates and land, but this is her main castle that was given to her by her husband where she where she lives.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's in modern-day Slovakia.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so there's this woman called called Anna Devulia who comes to the castle.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: We think she came as a servant.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: We're not quite sure because she wasn't family, she wasn't necessarily like highly born, but we think she came as a servant.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: And when she arrived at the castle is when darker things started happening within the castle.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it is said that this Anna girl was really into witchcraft.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: She was really into kind of demonic torture and just dark arts of things.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: So not only is uh Elizabeth's husband coming back saying all of the stuff about the battlefield and of all the horrors he's witnessed, but now he's she's got this other woman who's talking about all these kind of occult things that she's into as well.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: So it's obviously normal at this time to kind of hit your servants, right?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: And like abuse them when they don't do things that are to your liking.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so she starts to take it steps further where she's starting to punish everyone for everything.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's not just, oh, like you severely messed up, you have to be punished.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's oh, you missed a stitch in your knitting.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to stab you with the sewing needle that you've been using.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: She definitely gets pretty dark.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: So in 1604, her husband dies.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: And it's starting at 1604 when she has really no other accountability, things go very twisted.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I made a list here of just some of the crimes that she was known to commit against her servants.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Let me start with saying she preferred young girls.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: She did.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: So the primary age of, I'm gonna call them her victims, but her servants were between the ages of 10 and 14 years old.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: Virginal young girls.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, very young girls.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Some of these crimes that she committed included winter ice baths, where she would dunk them into ice cold water and make them stay outside until they probably froze to death during the winter months of Hungary.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: She would cover them in honey and then also leave them outside for the insects and the birds to eat, bite, and peck at them alive.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: She would stab them with needles, like Elizabeth said.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: She would cut their noses, their lips.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: She would whip them with spikes.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: She would burn them, she would bite them.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: It just gets worse and worse.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_02: She, one girl was talking too much, so she was said to have sewed her lips together shut.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: She would get oiled paper and staff them in between her their toes and then burn the pieces until they it like wouldn't go away because of the oil, it would just continuously burn their skin in between their toes.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: And they called it like the spark dance or something, like the fire dance.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: Because they would hop around.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and she would just laugh, like she would cackle at these people.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_02: The list goes on and on, and it gets pretty dark.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um the and I we're gonna say, Oh, this is is alleged.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: This is not confirmed.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: And this is this part was said to be more or less rumored because this rumor came up about a hundred years after her death.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: But it was said that she smacked a servant so hard once and slapped her across her face, and her face was bleeding, and the blood splattered onto her face.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: And supposedly she noticed that her skin looked rejuvenant and softer where the blood was.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: And so Elizabeth Bathory was convinced that the blood of a virgin would make her look more youthful.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: So she would bathe in their blood and she would bring these young girls in and have their throats cut open and murdered and take all the blood from their body and take a bath in it.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: It was said too that sometimes to get the blood like fully extracted from the bodies, that she would raise them up on like rafters, you know, basically still alive because it had to be fresh blood and just drain them of all their blood into these like vets where she would have her bloodbaths for her youthful skin.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Hence the name the blood countess.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: Hundreds of girls were vanishing.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: All the servants, all the all the lower class girls in the village were all gone.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: They would all come and work for the castle and then just go missing hundreds of girls.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: They would find mutilated bodies around the perimeter of the castle because she would kill them, mutilate them, cut them up, toss them over the wall for the wolves to eat them.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, eventually they ran out of the girls in the village.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: They ran out of like peasant girls.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: So she turns her castle into a school for the young noble women, the daughters of the of the noble people.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Would come for the lesser nobility, so it's less obvious.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: Less obvious, but lesser nobility, but still like you know, higher middle class women, girls still between the ages of 10 to 14, would now come to her castle for an education, and these girls went missing.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: So she moved on from the peasants and the servants and went on to hire class girls, and she's torturing them, mutilating them, killing them, murdering them, and they're all going missing.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_02: People know what's going on, but no one is saying anything.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: The Bathorys are a very powerful family in this era.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: The church is afraid of them, the royals are afraid of them.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: All of the village people are afraid of them because that is their employer.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: So no one, everyone knows what's happening.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: No, and this is just like mind-blowing.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_02: This actually happened.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_02: She is known as Eastern Europe's number one female serial killer.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: And this is you, this is mostly taking place like in terms of the rumors and the disappearances between 1602 and 1604.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so this means she's about 42, 44, early 40s.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and again, it all just starts as rumors, it all just starts as whispers.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: People are too afraid to come too publicly forward about the disappearances, like Megan said.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but by 1610, Matthias II, who's the Archduke of Austria and the king of Hungary and Croatia, which I like that they threw Croatia in there, even though that became a country in like the 90s.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but he he starts to say, okay, we need to do something about this because at this point we can't neglect it anymore.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: So he assigns this person named Georgie Thurzo to investigate.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: And Georgie is the uh Palatin of Hungary, it's basically the highest-ranking official in Hungary.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: So he goes to Georgie and he says, Hey, please figure out what's going on.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we need answers here.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: We need to know why these people are disappearing, and we already know that she's a bit crazy.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so he, um, as in Georgie, um, by October 1610, has two notaries go and just start collecting a bunch of witness statements.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: And the witness statements are very shaky.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: Let's point that out.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, a lot of it is, oh, I was told by a friend, or like I someone had told me that they saw this.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: So he's not getting a lot of first, or the notaries are not getting a lot of firsthand accounts, but they're getting tons and tons of hearsay, she said, he said, they saw, we saw, whatever.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so by 1611, there's over 300 different witness statements that are basically sworn to say we know these as facts, whether or not they are just rumor, like, you know, we we have a very strong feeling these things are happening.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: There is even one servant who comes forward, her name is Susanna, who said that she found a book in the countess's home that listed every single girl that she had killed, or at least had, you know, had had tortured and and killed in her property.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: And she said that list was 650 girls.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_02: My gosh.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's a small village.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then I was gonna say, how do you even have that many women in the first place?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so girls.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, girls, exactly, young girls.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so uh all these witnesses basically uh had kind of said the same thing that this all had started happening around 1585 to 1590.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: So this has been going on for a long time, 20 years at this point, and they're just finding out.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: So December 1610 rolls around, and the um the people that are accusing her finally have enough evidence to where they just roll into her castle.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: They come and they arrest her and four of her servants.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it is rumored that she was caught in the act, like in the actual torture chamber doing these things, but in all reality, we think she was just at home having dinner, like nothing crazy was going on.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: The fact that she had a torture chamber in a dungeon, and there's so many cheesy movies about this.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: I I want to see a really high-quality movie about this, but they all have like this dark dungeon in the basement, and there's girls hanging in chains and right.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: They find all the mutilated bodies and they find all of the, you know, all of the blood from the bloodbaths and those types of things.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: Which again, I'm sure as the Tory story is told, it gets bloodier and crazier and you know.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um 500 years.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so at this point, she's essentially caught, and the family doesn't know what to do because obviously, again, the batteries are very prestigious, have a lot of money, a lot of land.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: So her Paul, her son Paul, and her two sons-in-law, really just in an effort to like save some of the family estates, they kind of come to an agreement with those that are accusing her, and they say, Okay, how about we send her to a nunnery?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: And everyone was like, that's not really good enough.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what else can we do?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: So they finally decided that she should just be subjected to house confinement.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she was put on trial, but her trial was kind of quickly abandoned again because she is so noble and uh and people aren't really willing to go to battle with her.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and that's an inter interesting point because at this time, being a no a noble woman like she was, she didn't have to go on trial at all.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: And she wanted to, she was the only one that's like, no, please, like I want to say my version of the story.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: But they were really backing off on her going to trial, but she never actually her servants went to trial.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right, but she never gave a test.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: She never even testified or anything, they just sent her straight to house arrest.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's wild.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, what happened to her servants?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's why this is kind of an interesting episode for us, because our main woman of the night wasn't actually executed.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: She got off.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: We are still considering this an execution story, though, because as Elizabeth mentioned, there were four accomplices that were also all arrested, her servants.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: And their names, um, I'm gonna go by their nicknames.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: They had very Hungarian names, but there's some nicknames.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, Dorca, Ilona, Katarina, and Fixco.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: Fixco was a dwarf.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Fixgo was the only one, probably because he was also the only man, right?
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: Had a little bit more of a prestigious execution and he was beheaded.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think this is our first and only dwarf beheading.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's probably true.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: I can't think of another.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure we'll dig some up later.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: I have some like what?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think like they had to make like a custom scaffold like stump for him to put his head on?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think he stood up and put it on?
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think he That's a great question, actually.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it had to be a little bit smaller, no?
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: For his kneeling.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: These are the things I want to know, and there's just no content on it.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: There's no I have these questions.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's Google that on your work computer and see what comes up.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: No thanks.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: Dorika and Ilona had it pretty bad.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: So at first, everything is like he said, she said, no, they kind of shifted blame over to Bathory.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, really quick, too.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: At this point, that Anna that we had mentioned, who was the one practicing witchcraft, she had died by this point.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: So she wasn't anywhere to be found.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: There was obviously like nothing she could say or do to save anyone at this moment.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: So they started initially putting the blame on her.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was all that Anna girl who came here.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: She was the one who's dead.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: The one who's dead, isn't here to defend herself.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: Then they were kind of yeah, they were blaming each other.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: And then it wasn't until they started torturing them they got the real answers.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_02: Dorca and Ilona had their fingers pulled off with hot pincers.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: Which is, I think they got the worst of it.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's awful.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: After they had their fingers pulled off and they finally admitted guilt that they assisted her through all of these torturings and murders, they were then burned at the stake.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: And then as I had mentioned, Vixco was beheaded.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: Katarina got off pretty easy.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: She got a life sentence.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: She was actually not executed.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason she got off a little bit easier is because it kind of came to the surface that she was just as as abused as the others.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like she was being abused by Bathory and by these other servants, and she kind of got into the mix of all of it, and she didn't want to do any of it.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: She was very empathetic to all the girls that they were torturing and murdering.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: And she was kind of one of them, but she was coerced into it somehow.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, likely story.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: Katarina.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_02: There was another one, Erse.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: Erse.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: Erse, sure.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_02: She ran away and she escaped, but then they caught her and they burned her at the stake.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_02: So really there were, yeah, there were four executions and then one life sentence.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: And then Bathory, who got a life sentence on house arrest.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so in terms of her confinement, it was it was a little bit mixed in terms of what we saw because some accounts said that she was literally put in a tiny room where it was walled off and all she all she had was a tiny tiny opening for ventilation and for her meals.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: So some accounts say that she basically died in this tiny little solitary confinement room.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Others say that's not the case at all, that she still lived a life of luxury, was allowed to go all through her estate as long as she didn't leave the property.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: So she's pretty nice to live in your castle and yeah, I mean, that's called a pandemic.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: Still still get 10,000 steps a day.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, that's probably more comfortable than our pandemic.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um so who knows which one is true.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Again, I think uh obviously the rumors say that, oh, that she was put in this confinement.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think logically, because we've covered a lot of these types of stories, sometimes they are just a little bit in terms, you know, just in a comfortable house arrest type of type of state.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but on August 20th, 1614, uh, she goes to her bodyguard and she says, I'm sorry, my hands are extremely cold.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Such a weird it's a weird thing to say, but she was very worried about her cold hands.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: And he was like, Okay, go lay down then.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_02: Go put some gloves on.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: Don't really know what to tell you, miss, but like, go lay down.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: Figure it out.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: She goes, lays down, and never wakes up.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: She is dead in the morning, August 21st, 1614.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: Man, what a way to go.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: She got off really lucky because had she been executed, all of her lands, properties, riches, wealth, all would have been given back to the crown.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: Because she was never actually like never testified.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she kept everything.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, passed it on to her children, all her estates, all her riches.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: We talk about that a lot.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: When someone's executed, it's not just a sentence on them, it's a sentence on their family because they've lost all their ranks and all of their wealth and every every glimmer of hope of having a prosperous future.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so again, that's why her, her own son and sons-in-law had to kind of come in at the last moment to say, Oh no, no, no, it's okay, we'll just put her under house arrest.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because they knew what was at stake there.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: They knew she couldn't be put on trial and have everything taken away, and they're looking out for their own necks.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously, you know, they have way too much to lose at this point.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that is how she died.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: Alone, no, no husband, who knows where the children are.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: With cold hands.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: With cold hands, no gloves.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: Her cold castle.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um stony.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_01: Right when she when she had died, um, they immediately go to bury her in kind of the local church, like in the village.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: And the villagers were so upset.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: They were like, uh, I'm sorry.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_02: They're like, this woman just killed all of our daughters.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we have no girls in this village because of this bitch who just killed them all.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: In the most gruesome ways.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: Ah, just tortured them.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: And and the term serial killer wasn't around in this era, right?
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's a Vend very like Ted Bundy era.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's very 70s, 80s is when that term came up.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: So no one knew to call her a serial killer, but they're like, we don't want this woman who's just a mass murderer, like in this She's a sadist.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: She is a sadist, you know, just it's just such a Again, a bloodlust.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: They do not want her just in their local church.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: So they finally said you know spoke up enough to where they said, We want her moved into her family crypt where she belongs with you weirdos.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you incestuous batteries.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: And they were all they were all covering for her, her all her whole family.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_02: They knew what was up.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_02: They knew she was crazy.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: She's crazy as a kid.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: She's crazy ever since that horse incident and the blood on her lips.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: And the epilepsy.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: So so sh we actually don't to this day know where she's buried because uh again, they they have like graves where they're like, oh yeah, this is where she was, but there's no markings.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: And anytime like historians have gone to dig up the graves, like she's not there, nothing's there.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it's very mysterious as to where um where she actually went, which is why some people speculate that she is associated with Count Dracula still.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think she's Countess Dracula?
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because she's Countess Dracula, and people think like, well, she's a vampire.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: So she rose she rose again, and she just is living off of the young blood as she always has and is still out there.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: The thing that gets me, if you I will post some pictures.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_02: She was beautiful.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_02: She was very but she's also very vampirish.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: She's very vain.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_02: Very vain and like pale and pretty and elegant with these big gowns.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: But she looks innocent.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: She looks beautiful in her portraits.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_02: You would never look at that portrait and be like, you cut off noses and hang people for blood.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_02: You you bite servants in the face when you're angry.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: That was another one of her stories where sh sometimes she would like turn turn them into involuntary cannibalism as well.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: But she would bite them and bite their skin and their face and she was very chew on them.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: Just chew on them a bit.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she again, she had a a a lot of odd ways she she um she got excitement out of.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so again, we don't know where she is to this day.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: Some people still claim, oh, this was a whole really conspiracy of the nobles, right?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like Matthias II was said to have owed the family a lot of money.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_01: He was really in a bunch of debt, so they said maybe he had just captured her, being like, yo, if you put her under house arrest, I'll let's just forgive this debt that I owe you.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: So the and the debt was later cancelled.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: Where do you go?
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, right, real quick.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: There was another another method I read about where she would put her hands in their mouths and just rip their faces apart.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_02: Ew.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like spread across.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: They're like I'm visualizing it for Elizabeth.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like the motion Megan is doing with her, and then just like rip their cheeks, like stuff rip their mouths apart.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Literally closing my eyes at you.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: She's giving me a big visual thing with her with her fingers.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, no, that's awful.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_02: There was another one where they uh one girl tried to escape, a 12-year-old servant tried to escape.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and then Dorca and Ilona yes are pronounced.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely how you pronounce those.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: They caught her and they put her in this like cage thing, and then there were spikes, and then it um split her in half.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like split her in half.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like it like there was like knives and spikes and blades, and it I don't know, it the the dwarf was on the bottom, and I I'll have to blow.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: Now you're just saying now you're just saying words.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not, I'm not, hold on, let me reference this part of the book.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna post this very cool book, by the way.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: I found this book called Kings and Queens, a Chronicle of History's Most Interesting Monarchs by Brenda Ralph Lewis.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: So if you think we're historically inaccurate, all of this comes from this lady, okay?
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: This was in the the bargain book section of Barnes and Noble.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, don't discredit Brenda.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: $10.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's a very large book.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I didn't realize it was so dark.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: Every single chapter is about a super dark usually execution, yeah.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of executions are in it, which I really wasn't expecting, but I enjoyed it.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna be going for 20 seasons with all this content.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_02: We've got so much content.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'll find this part.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: You're looking at the whole split in half thing?
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there was a whole thing I read about how this girl got split in half.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: Well, her family did like go ahead, continue.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_02: Can I just read?
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: One young girl, a 12-year-old named Pola, had been abducted in a prison in Castle Kash.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: Try that one more time.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_02: You say it.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I can't read from here.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: The castle, but managed to escape.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_02: Dorca and Ilona Joe pursued and caught her and brought her back to the castle where she was confronted by an enraged Elizabeth.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: Elizabeth forced Pola into a cage like a huge ball.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_02: The ball was hauled up by a pulley, and suddenly dozens of sharp spikes shot out from the sides and into the cage.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: From down below, the dwarf Fixgo manipulated the ropes until Pola, trapped inside the narrow cage, was caught on the spikes.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: Eventually, the girl was sliced to death.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: Sliced to death, not sliced in two.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like she bled to death from the spikes.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: She wasn't like sought in half.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: Could have been.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe though.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just depends on where the spikes are hidden.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of we didn't go into half of the stories.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: I like that.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: You should just post stories of all of this content in this book.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: That looks just have an episode of just reading that entire chapter.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, there was before we we end her life.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we already have, but before we end on her story, there was a really interesting note that um Mr.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: Georgie Thurso said to her right before she was put in confinement.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: Can you read that for the first time?
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, let me look at it.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, this is a little long, I'll say it.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: You are in the last months of your life.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: You do not deserve You know what?
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just have our good friend Simon Whistler say this part.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he might say it better.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, I'm not doing it the right way.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_02: Neither of us are good readers.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_02: Simon, you let us know.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, go ahead, Simon.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: You are in the last months of your life.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_00: You do not deserve to breathe the air on the earth or see the light of the Lord.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: You shall disappear from this world and never reappear in it again, as the shadows envelop you.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: May you find time to repent your bestial life.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: Simon says the same things we do.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: He just says it in a certain tone that makes him a bit more believable.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the accent's better.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: I also want to put repent your bestial life on a shirt.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think that would really hit.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_02: If you say that to me one more time tonight, the number of times, Elizabeth, I'll like do something, and she's just like, repent your bestial life.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can say that in any situation and it plays.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_02: You could put that on a license plate frame.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think, oh, a license plate frame.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: Ah.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: You could put that on a few on a sticker, on a water bottle.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: Repent your bestial life.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's good.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, anyways, um, kind of more of a unique execution story.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like it makes me angry that she got away with it.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, in so many terms, right?
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, she wasn't free.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: But her servants are the one who got the short end of the stick.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: They're the ones who suffered the long end of the stick.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: Long end.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_02: They were tortured, their fingers were pulled off, they were burned, beheaded, put on trial, humiliated.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: And we don't know the full story, right?
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we don't know if it was this Anna woman that was brought into the castle who was truly the culprit, whether it was uh, you know, again, just an upbringing on part of Elizabeth just made her want to do these atrocious things, or whether it was the servants who were kind of a part of this whole little blood cult that they, you know, uh created and then brought Elizabeth into, because Elizabeth claimed, like, oh, it was all the servants' ideas.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually scared of them.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: Or the servants were also being tortured into doing this and they didn't want anything to do with it, but she was forcing them to do these things.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_02: And they tried to escape.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_02: Although, I I don't know.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_02: I have this is where I struggle.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_02: Your stomach is also struggling.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_02: My stomach just struggled as well.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_02: This is where I struggle.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: I love a good crime podcast where they they're like, this is what happened, and this is the evidence, and this is what we know, and here's the trial, and here's the outcome.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_02: When we talk about these crimes from hundreds and hundreds of years ago, there's just I just want to know.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to travel back in time and get the full story.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: They, I mean, hey, science keeps going forward every few years, and we keep making new discoveries based on, you know, old things that are dug up, old bones.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we're still learning things.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_01: They can use DNA evidence now, even on really old uh skeletons and things, like our Korra episode, even though she wasn't that old.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: That was like 100 years ago.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think they'll find Elizabeth Bathory's skeleton ever?
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: How would they even know?
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: She's a vampire roaming the earth still, so I don't think so.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, are you her?
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_02: Excuse me?
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: Evie, I get it now.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: I understand.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_02: Just because we have the same initials, Elizabeth Bathory.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_02: I have to go.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, bye.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: Elizabeth, any final words?
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: Repent you'll beastial life.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_02: Bye.