Ep 84 - It's Okay to Not be Okay with Martha Maier and Jeff Isensee

The Starry-Eyed Podcast® · Feb 10, 2026 · 42m

There’s no easy way to begin this episode. Over the past few weeks, the Williams syndrome community has experienced several losses, and regardless of the circumstances, it has left many of us feeling shaken.

This episode is the first in a small series focused on death and grief. We welcome back Martha Maier and Jeff Isensee. Martha reached out to the WSA to share some of the tools she’s using to help Jeff navigate his fears and anxiety around death. Together, they talk honestly about where they are right now and what it looks like to keep moving forward.

Whether it’s something you hear in…