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253: Sister Wives Recap - One on One Part Two (S19 E27) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: consciousness and end up teleporting to another dimension to get
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  Speaker 1: away from Cody Brown. So what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm loving Christine and Janelle kind of calling out
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  Speaker 2: Cody a bit. That's really great. I want more of that.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought Robin in particular looked really mad. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like she's hiding her anger in that tense Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so tight.
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  Speaker 2: She can't even watch the clips because she's so pissed off. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm kind of living for it really, Yeah, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: stay mad, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cry harder. Yeah, I really noticed that. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you bringing to the table, Robin, Like, why are
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  Speaker 1: we employing you to entertain to us?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: If this is all you're doing is sitting there with
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  Speaker 1: your nasty ass expression in your eyelashes and a very
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  Speaker 1: resistant to answer questions, as if it's below you to
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  Speaker 2: For real?
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  Speaker 1: And you be mad?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I noticed that as well. Yeah. My takeaway was
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  Speaker 1: that I kind of like sue Kanya really suky Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of fire from her. She
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  Speaker 1: was definitely pushing back against Cody Brown.
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  Speaker 2: God.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the finale stare off was very awkward. That was
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  Speaker 1: so crazy and super pathological, malignant narcissis performances, Yeah, which
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  Speaker 1: I loved. And she sat there in the silence, she
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  Speaker 1: didn't squirm. I I'm kind of writing for Fukie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, calling him a baby yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Another thing I saw as I was wandering the
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  Speaker 1: internets was that people were kind of coming for Christine
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit, why, saying that she seems to be
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  Speaker 1: still fixated on Cody and like David is sitting there
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  Speaker 1: right next to her, and still she's going on and
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  Speaker 1: on and on about how terrible Cody is. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm loving this version of Christine.
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  Speaker 2: This is literally her life and she's just talking about
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  Speaker 2: it with her new man right there supporting her. Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand that criticism. Like Mary made
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  Speaker 2: that comment too in this being like why do you
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  Speaker 2: talk about Cody with David? Why do you talk about
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  Speaker 2: him so much? Like because she was married to him
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  Speaker 2: for twenty six years and she's on a show that's
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  Speaker 2: got nineteen seasons and she's commenting on it, like, why
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  Speaker 2: would it feel like that's kind of normal?
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  Speaker 1: And don't you want her to be real?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: The more that she better, says like, the better that
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  Speaker 1: it is. Keeping in mind, of course, that this tell
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  Speaker 1: nothing is being filled. Filmed approximately two weeks after she
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  Speaker 1: filed suit, right, and so later in this episode, when
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about going on double dates and Cody's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're not healed yet, what he really means is there
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  Speaker 1: is a pending lawsuit and there's no damn way I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna sit down at a table with that woman because
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  Speaker 1: I hate her.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's why he did the stare down.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, And I love her, and I think we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: kind of this unbridled Christine. She's a bit more brave
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  Speaker 1: with some of her commentary, and I just want so
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  Speaker 1: much more of that. She's releasing her book this fall,
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  Speaker 1: which I still have not pre ordered Why It's Your
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  Speaker 1: cho But like, I hope she's bringing some of that
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  Speaker 1: to the book.
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  Speaker 2: I hope so too.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be so fun.
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  Speaker 2: I hope so too. I don't want any more cryptic crap,
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  Speaker 2: like just lay it on the table, say how you
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  Speaker 2: really feel.
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  Speaker 1: I want it with Janelle, for example, like why are
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  Speaker 1: you being so careful? Like why did it take you
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  Speaker 1: twenty hours to get to the sentence where you say
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  Speaker 1: I just don't like them. We don't need to hear
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  Speaker 1: all the equivocating, like I'm sure I have no problem
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  Speaker 1: with Cody and it's not that I can't be in
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  Speaker 1: the same No tell us that you hate them, I know.
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  Speaker 2: And then she says I don't like them, and then
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  Speaker 2: Suki's like why and she's like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just don't like them, Like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just expect why do you say, Suki?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: But also Suki, some of her questions were so dumb.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I'm so I have a love hate relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Suki because she's a terrible interviewer. She's good at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, she's getting better with Cody. I just
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  Speaker 2: I don't know some of the questions she asked.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, really, you can just feel her though,
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  Speaker 1: like trying to find trying a space where she can
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  Speaker 1: insert a question and follow up. Yeah, Like, just dealing
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  Speaker 1: with all of these people has got to be a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: She's doing pretty yeah, Okay, So those are my thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: all right, those are your thoughts. Yes, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: this episode. Season nineteen, episode twenty seven. This is my
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  Speaker 1: other takeaway. I'm so fucking tired of this show, right,
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  Speaker 1: this is like one of my favorite shows. I know,
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  Speaker 1: we go crazy, have so much fun talking about it,
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  Speaker 1: but like, I need a break.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason breaks exist. But we've had a freaking
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  Speaker 2: hiatus in the mid season and these four tell alls
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  Speaker 2: and then allegedly we're gonna have season twenty in like
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  Speaker 2: two months.
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  Speaker 1: I know, crackers. So we are in episode twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: entitled one on one, Part two, Part two, take it Away, Beatrice.
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  Speaker 2: When we start off kind of wrapping up the conversation
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  Speaker 2: about what a big giant failure code is from their faith,
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  Speaker 2: which I do love. We have Christine saying, you know,
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  Speaker 2: by polygamous standards, like if a man loses three of
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  Speaker 2: his wives and they all leave, it's a problem with
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  Speaker 2: the man, not the women every time, every single time.
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  Speaker 2: And so I do love that little jeb to Cody
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  Speaker 2: because it is the truth. It's like, it's not just
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  Speaker 2: these women. If it was one woman leaving and the
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  Speaker 2: rest stayed, okay, maybe it's that woman maybe, but if it's.
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  Speaker 1: Three of them out of four before, Yeah, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have a good drug record, and if all of their
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  Speaker 1: children have a problematic relationship with you, that is also
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  Speaker 1: an indication that you're the problem Cody.
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  Speaker 2: Brown exactly, But he can never admit to that because
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  Speaker 2: he can't look in the mirror and just be humbled.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have another conversation about Janelle thinking that
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  Speaker 2: Cody is playing the devil to run interference for Robin.
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  Speaker 1: Right, like, intentionally villainizing himself to take the heat off
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  Speaker 1: of Robin. And I think she's probably right. I think
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  Speaker 1: so too, And I think the best that he can
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  Speaker 1: do is this cartoonish caricature of what a devil would be.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that there's nothing that he can do.
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  Speaker 1: There's no amount of villainy that he could show us
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  Speaker 1: that we'll take my attention away from Robin. Oh for sure,
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  Speaker 1: because sitting there cold on the couch interview after interview segment,
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  Speaker 1: she is just an evil woman in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she does not like the other women or
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  Speaker 2: Suki or Suki or production. No, she only cares about
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  Speaker 2: Cody and herself and those tight curls that she's styling
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  Speaker 2: in her hair. But yeah, I mean, like I can
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  Speaker 2: see Cody playing this caricature of a devil to defend
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  Speaker 2: Robin and to protect Robin because he does love her
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  Speaker 2: and she is his soulmate, and like that is a
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  Speaker 2: natural human thing to do, Like you want to protect
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  Speaker 2: your spouse if you care about them, right, But I
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  Speaker 2: think Cody is also just evil, Like I think he's
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  Speaker 2: a terrible person and he's bitter and he's a narcissist.
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  Speaker 2: So there's like two things going on here, Like it's
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  Speaker 2: it is his ego, but he is trying to defend
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  Speaker 2: Robin in his weird way, because Robin can do no wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen that theme over the last simple seasons
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we say that she's the sacred cow. She's
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  Speaker 1: the untouchable person in the family exactly, and that is
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  Speaker 1: how he's he's treating her. But I just felt like
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: him being called out for that, like that was pretty juicy.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: That's Janelle kind of getting close to the soft parts
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  Speaker 1: with him. And I just always watch these thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 1: what is Cody going to think when he watches it back.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: When they start this episode calling him a failure, I know,
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: and then they end this episode with him looking like
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: an absolute toddler with the stare off with Suki like
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  Speaker 1: it's just.
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  Speaker 2: So good, it is really good. Yes, what did you
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: think about Cody like addressing the camera in the scene
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  Speaker 2: with his fake accountability to the og wives being like, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's my fault too, I did stuff bad too.
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  Speaker 1: He was being a baby, which Suki called him appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that it was not accountability, No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Suki follows it up by saying, well, that's you being accountable. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not, because what brings him to even say it
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  Speaker 1: in the first place is like, well, what do you
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  Speaker 1: want me to say that? I have ownership in this too? Okay, fine,
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: I have ownership in this too. I was a part
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  Speaker 1: of it too. Are you happy? Yeah, Suki, that's not
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  Speaker 1: accountability all. That's somebody having a temper tantrum. That's petulance.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: That's baby shit.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I don't really like her because she
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: gives into that and it's like, oh, that's accountability, good job, Cody,
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: and it's like it's not, though, it's really fake and stupid.
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  Speaker 2: And then Cody follows it up with saying, well, I
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: would love to have it back.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? What did he mean by that
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: he would love to have the accountability back.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: He would love to have the other women take accountability
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  Speaker 2: for being terrible.
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  Speaker 1: God, yeah, that's right over my head. I'm like, what
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: are you even saying?
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: He wants the other women to be like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: Cody's sorry, I was the worst sister wife ever. I
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: couldn't be like Robert. I'm sorry, fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was wild, but I do think Suki in
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: that moment, was trying to finesse the conversation. And with
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: a narc like Cody, you have to give them something,
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  Speaker 1: You have to feed the ego. It's in order to
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  Speaker 1: get something right from him that's honest and true, and
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: he's going to do it so begrudgingly, And that's what
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  Speaker 1: that was. That was true him begrudgingly looking at his
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: wives and taking ownership. But he wasn't doing that at all.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. And then we have Janelle saying
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  Speaker 2: for like taking forever to say that she doesn't like
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin, but she would never really want to
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: hang out with them. She's like, I think she says,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to know them, yeah, which I'm
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: just like, so.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, I don't need it, I don't want it. I
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: don't like them. And of course the subtext here is
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: the fact that she lost her son. Yet like the
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: things that are going unsaid, I think are much more
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: compelling than the things that are being said. And so
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering about that rage that Janelle must have, oh,
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  Speaker 1: knowing about the relationship that her son Garrison had with Cody,
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: which was a non relationship, knowing that Garrison was the
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: kid along with Gabe, or it might have just been
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Garrison who called Robin and confronted her about how she
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: was an agent of wicked disruption and destruction in this family,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: like he was the one who did that, and then
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: shortly thereafter, like he took his own life. And so
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: that's living inside of Janelle, and I wish we could
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: get more of that articulated, not necessarily specific to Garrison,
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: but like, give me more of what you're actually feeling.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Like right when you say, like I have no problem
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: hanging out with Cody, what do you mean to love?
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: I have any problem hanging out with the man who
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: isolated you and the man who favored another woman, and
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: a man who treated your kids like crap? What do
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: you mean I'd be okay to be in the same
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: room with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really tired of like just kind of tiptoeing
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: around the actual truth, like we can be honest. Like
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: I think they think that it would be mean to
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: say that they just hate Robin and Cody and other
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: evil demons. I mean, I guess, but it's also the truth,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: like just say how you feel.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: I actually was wondering about that. I was wondering whether
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Mary and Janelle and Christine to some extent, are being
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: this careful because maybe the show is tied to Cody
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  Speaker 1: and Robin, and like they think, like in the back
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: of their mind, well, if I if I just come
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: right out and say all the terrible things I want
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: to say about these people, maybe they'd walk away from
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: the show, or maybe this show would end, And so
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: I kind of have to ride the lightning and just
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: imply how I feel.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Like. I hate that, though, but I'm like, I feel
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: like everybody in the world wants Cody and Robin to
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: be off the show. Hire them, and everyone in the
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: world would watch Mary and Janelle and Christine live their lives.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it might be.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Boring even if it sucked. I would watch it just
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: support it, and because they were off my television and
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Robin exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So I just I don't know. Maybe they're also just
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: trying to be the bigger people, trying to be good
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: people and not talk shit about Cody and Robin, because
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin have been talking mad shit about them.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: But I'm just like, just stoop down a little bit, Yeah,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: just be honest.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Get to the real stuff a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, divine rage. And then we have clips of Mary's
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: moving day.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had to watch that again.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: With Nate, with the awkward Mary back in that caboose
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  Speaker 2: up to Cody.
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  Speaker 1: And the tittering and the laughing. You have to laugh
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  Speaker 1: about it in the middle school. Oh t he Oh
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: it was sexual, but we didn't mean it that way.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: But it does make me remember that. I'm like, oh god, courage.
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  Speaker 2: The thing I loved about this though, was watching Robin
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: watch that clip because she couldn't even really watch it,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: and she looked really mad. I feel like Robin, I
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: don't know, my fake psychic intuition. I feel like Robin
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: was super mad.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: That really happened. Yeah, Well, because obviously when Suki questions
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: her about it, she's just like, no, this is the
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Mary and the Cody that I remember, Like they play
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: full and they're laughing, and that's why I was telling them, like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: are you sure you guys want to throw it all away?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Because this is who you are. Like, so she was
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: acting like she wasn't bothered by it. She also said
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: something like, well, I wasn't really thinking about it in
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: those terms at the time. Well, but yes you were.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, you definitely you absolutely were. You definitely were well
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and especially like when you have the clips of Cody
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: back then and now in the tell all being like no, no, no,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: but like what I have with Robin is divine and
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: sacred and my body is hers, and like I love
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: her and I don't want to ruin that. I don't
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: want to break that covenant.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Like is that because she puts her brass knuckles one
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: walks in the door.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: She's just like, yeah, yeah, I think she's jealous. I
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: think I think Robin has always been. I think that's
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: why Cody cut off intimacy with all the other OG wives.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I think, like you know, part of it was Cody too,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Like part Cody probably was like I cannot do this anymore,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: right not bang these women anymore. But I feel like
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Robin also had a hand in it of like, but
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: what we have is to fine. I know, on's special,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: and like it hurts my feelings when you have sex
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: with Christine, It hurts my feelings when you bump up
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: against Mary and that big old booty, because I don't
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: got a big old but you know, like I feel
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: like Robin says these things. Yeah, that's just my thought, though.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be a bit surprised. I mean I think
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: she was the manipulator all along, Yeah, and Cody kind
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: of just fell into whatever it is that she wanted
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to do, yeah, and what she was orchestrating. I just
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: felt like this was an entirely strange segment. But what
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I loved was when we cut to Christine, Yeah, because
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: it was in this part of this episode that Christine
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: really kind of unleashes on Cody and she's just like,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? And they're showing or is it this?
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: We ultimately get to the long trip to Prawan and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Cody saying goodbye and sobbing, and this is where Christine
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: calls him out for being manipulative and she's like, this
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff he would do is just
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: yank her along and hot and cold, and this is
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: why Mary was always so confused, and he should hold
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a mirror to himself. Also, with Cody saying that I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: want to be the one to walk Mary down the aisle,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: we've got Christine saying like that is a position of honor,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and the subtextas you do not deserve that or anything else.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: And furthermore, you're calling it an end of an era,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: but it's an end of an era. It is an
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: end of a family that you brought about. Yep, you're
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: blaming everybody else, but it's you that has done all
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: this and now you want to cry.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I loved that. Yeah, I love that she was calling
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that out because it brings a different perspective because I
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: think when we talked about that episode, we kind of
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: gave Cody a little bit of grace and we're like, oh, well,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: like maybe he is genuinely sad, Like a part of
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: him is sad that he lost all of this, and
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: maybe that's true. But at the same time, like Cody
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: being a narcissist is totally weaponizing his tears there and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: trying to like manipulate Mary, who quite honestly is really
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: easily manipulated by Cody, And like even Mary talks about
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: this section and says that she was super confused and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: super weirded out by Cody's emotional reaction to this, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: then talks about a time where they had lunch recently.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Like two weeks previous to the filming of this Tell.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: All, and he said, like, I'm still grieving the loss
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: of our marriage, and Mary's just like, you don't get
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to tell me that, Like, you don't get to tell
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: me that kind of stuff anymore, Like we are done.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Don't burden me with that. That is your own shit.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you not believe it?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: No?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I do, I absolutely do. But I think that Cody
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: was not actually grieving the loss of his marriage to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Mary in the conversation two weeks before they filmed this.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think he is manipulating in that moment
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: so that when they get to the tell all, Mary
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is not going to tell all the truths that he
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: knows that she can tell. He knows Christine's showing up
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: because Christine just sued him, he knows that Janelle has
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: no love for him. He's hoping he can have an
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: ally and Mary which is why we see him continually
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: call her a friend. You know, we're friends.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go over that because he's hoping
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: she's not going to talk shit about so he's trying
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to call ahead of time, which is something Kyle Richards
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: does on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Like she'll send
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: these mass texts to different people to form alliances for
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the reunion so that he's not dragged too much. That's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: why he did that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: That actually makes so much sense, because I kept feeling like,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: even though I was happy that Mary was saying some
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: of these things, like Mary was saying, you know, Cody,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you don't get to burden me with your grief, like
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: that's your own shit, we're done. I was happy to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: hear that, but at the same time, I still felt
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: like she was being too nice to Cody and too
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: nice to Robin, and like not saying the full truth
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: because she does have all the secrets and it is
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: really annoying that she still sees some good in Cody,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know if I'm like, I don't know
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: if I should think that that's an admirable trait about
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Mary that she tries to see the good in people,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: or that she tries to move on and be light
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: and happy and not be bitter, or if I.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's a weakness because I don't think she
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: tries to see the good in Christine. I don't think
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Christine tries to see the good in Mary. She doesn't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: do that with other people for whatever reason, she does
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: do that with Cody. Let me ask you a question though,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: speaking of Cody weaponizing his tears in order to manipulate
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Mary when he helped to move her to Pawan, to what end?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Like if he's manipulating her, what's he trying to get
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: out of her in that moment?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know money, because wasn't Didn't she come back
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: after that to make the I think so payment from
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Coyote Pass?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can't remember.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It gets so many episodes.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I think she did come back into town, though, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: she brought that check that could have been it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you're right that he does need
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: somebody on his team because Janelle and Christine are not
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: going to come to his side and don't hear his
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: bullshit and they're done talking to him, because even Cody
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: says in this episode that him and Christine are not
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: speaking at all, not on good terms whatsoever. So yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I think he probably was just like, Okay, I know
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that I can at least manipulate Mary a little bit
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to get her to be my friend.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And let's not forget that this was filmed early October
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so the majority of the episodes for
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: season nineteen have not aired, and none of the folks
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: here have seen any of the episodes, And so Mary
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't see how Cody continues to talk about her in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: season nineteen and drag her and even in this interview,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the backhanded commentary that he's giving about Mary and the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: other wives, like it's no, it was around Christine, but
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: like he's continuing to do that, but she doesn't know
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it at this time. And I think this is where
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: her and Jen went up on their Instagram, like in
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: January or February of this year, after seeing Cody call
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Jen and Mary's other friends a bit yeah, and Mary
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: went up on Instagram and said, if I had known
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that when I sat down to film the reunion, it
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: would have been a different reunion. So she's trying to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: play nice, and I don't know why she would After
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: season eighteen, I know, and all of the fuck shit
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that he did. But I think she's sitting here trying
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to play nice and that's why we're getting what we're
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: getting from Mary.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing with Mary. It's like how many
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: times do you have to see this behavior from Cody
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: to like believe that he's a bad person? Like I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: guess maybe now she sees it after the bitch.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Common But I wouldn't be a bit surprised that we're
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: filming for season twenty and it's gonna be the same thing.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yep, the same thing. And it's like, even in this
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: tall al, Cody's like going on a tirade about how
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: him and Mary and the rest of the wives are
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: never going to agree on like why things ended, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: so at least with him and Mary, they'll just like
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: agree to never talk about it and never deal with
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: it because they're just never gonna see eye to eye
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: because we have all of our own biases. And I'm
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: just like, well, then how can you even be friends
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: if you can't like be honest and authentic with each
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: other and you're just gonna like shove shit under the rug.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Well, now he wants to move on now, he doesn't
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: want to talk about it anywhere with Suki because he
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to have to sit in the ownership of
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: what he has done and what he has said against
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: these women and what do you done to these kids? Right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So that's why he's just like, Okay, well I'm over it, though, Like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: why are we still talking about this? This is old shit. Sorry,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: this happened just a couple of months ago. I still
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: pissed off about it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: You still have to react to the shit that just
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: aired on TV, dude.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just crazy to me how unable they are
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to sit there and watch some of these clips, Like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: when we get to the clip of him meeting David, right,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the next one, let's do let's just go and.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Get to it. Yeah, no, go ahead.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Oh well, I think it's section three or whatever. We
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: start with discussing Cody and Robin meeting David for the
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: first time at Gwen's engagement party. I think it was
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the engagement party and how awkward that was. And so
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Suki's approaching it with Cody kind of bringing up the subject,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and Cody just starts to talk about, oh, yeah, well,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know if I was going to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: be meeting this stood or something, and then Suki responds
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and says, well, let's watch the clip, and he's like, well, no, no,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: but I mean, I'm just saying that it was and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it's actually a really good conversation. And I don't know
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: why he was talking to in particular, but he starts
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: to nervously filibuster audience just to continue to talk because
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to watch the clip because he knows
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: he comes off super awkwardly and cringey, and he doesn't
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: want to have to watch it back himself yeap, or
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: have any of us watch it either, And so he
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: actually tells her like, no, don't roll the clip. I've
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: already seen the clip. Let's just talk about it. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they do it anyway, and so she's while he's talking,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: She's just like, Okay, roll the clip, which is really great,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: which was awesome and I love that, Siky, yeah, yep.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And then we watched the clip, and like you have,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Christine and David talked about how Cody got really read
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: and it was like really awkward, and Christine was frustrated
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: because Cody last minute decided that he was going to
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: come to Gwen's engagement party. Even though he didn't RSVP
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and this is just totally his mo o because he's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a narcissist and everything has to center around him. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Cody's like, well, I wasn't read. I wasn't read there
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and it was fine, and like over explains, like, no,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: it was only cringey just because I felt like a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: little awkward, but like it was nice because David's nice
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: and like I didn't feel weird around him, and it
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: was just weird because of Christine because I hate Christine.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Right, he said something like if we were benevolent, maybe
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: we would have gone out to dinner and met each
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: other that way, but we couldn't and we couldn't manage that,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: so we did it at Gwen's and it was just
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: really wonderful to see him squirm like that and.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: He is coping so hard because it was awkward. Like, yeah, everyone,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: everyone could cut that tension with another.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: For anybody, it would be awkward. If I were to
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: meet my ex husband's wife, which I've never met her,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that would be very awkward. I'd be super pretty though,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: very cool, but it'd be awkward. Yeah, you can just say, yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that was hella awkward. I feel weird about it. I'm
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: sure I came off like a bit of a clown.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like that's what I do well.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And even Robin says it, like Robin's like yeah, Like
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it was awkward, especially for Christine because that's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: just how divorce is. Like Robin's being real here, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Cody's the one that's like, no, but it was that
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: awkward for me, Like it was fine. It was just
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: like a weird moment, but like I was fine, and
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I wasn't written I was, I wasn't awkward.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Was so great? Did you catch though, when Robin was
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: lecturing us about divorce and She's like, well, I'm sorry.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You guys have children together. You guys shared a life
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and you're going to have to continue to share a life.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And I immediately went to David Jessop. I know, I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: immediately went to you know, the older kids and their
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: biological father and how they systematically removed David Jessup from
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: those kids' lives. And now you want to sit here
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: on the couch with your hard ass jaw and lecture
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: us about how to move on beyond divorce and co parent.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I know, okay, I'm like, as if you did that right?
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, huh leaves.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I can't with her. The thing that annoys me so
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: much about Robin is that she like acts dumb and
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: she acts like confused all the freaking time. I don't
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: think you're a sacred cow?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: How do you? How do you not know what a
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: sacred cow is? Didn't we learn about what a sacred
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: cow was when we were in elementary school, middle school,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: high school. We knew about India and about Acre. We
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: knew what we were talking about when we use the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: term sacred. So we're just gonna pretend you don't know
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: what a sacred cow is, Robin.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: That's always her thing, Yeah, just to act all confused
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and like I'm innocent. I'm just buying American girl dolls
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Withdelle's money.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything wrong exactly. I just can't with her.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: And then we have this like weird, awkward conversation about
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: how like Cody would totally want to hang out with
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: David and he had a dirty thought that him and
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: David could go and take a guy dirty.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: What was happening on that guy's trip? Dirty little thoughts?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Well, he was nervous about meeting a super handsome stud.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Right, I was like, what a weird word to you,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: this little freudian.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Slip a little bit, but talking about taking a guy's
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: trip with David, I'm like, you're so lying. I don't
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: know why we're even having this conversation. And then Christine's like, well, yeah,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: like maybe we'd have a double date in the future,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: but like right now, I don't want to deal with him.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Christine was really weird here. Well she actually says, no, yeah,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: it would be okay if they want on a guy's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: trip together, and David's like, yeah, we could maybe do that.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I mean there'd have to be different rules. Well, what
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: kind of different rules? Well, that's between me and Cody.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Also sounding kind of weird, I'm remembering that weird dance.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I'm remembering that weird lap dance You've got DVA. But
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Christine's acting like she would be just fine
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to have some sort of a blind date, not blind date,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: double date with Cody and Robin sometime in the future,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: but then she starts to qualify it by saying, but
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: not right now though, yeah, because like I would be
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: way too nervous and I'd be very uncomfy to have
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to sit with them and that's because he just does
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: not know who I am. And we were married for
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: twenty six years and he has painted that a certain
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: way as if he doesn't know who I am, when
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: when I am committed to something, I'm committed one hundred percent.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: She went into this weird tangent to me, like you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: didn't need to really say all that. You could have
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: just said, I will never sit down and have dinner
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: with bumb ass Cody and problem.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I know well, And I think she was like saying
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: that almost like a trauma dump a little bit, because
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it's obviously like a pain point, and I'm like, we
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: get it, Christine, like just be honest and real about it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: But maybe she's trying to be careful because of lawsuit
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and she's trying to like choose her words a little carefully.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: But she does say she goes on and talks about
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: like I don't like the way that he talks about me,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: and I don't like the way that he thinks about me,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and so I don't want to be around that. I'm like, Okay,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that's that's it right right there.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Took us a long way to get there, pretending that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you'd allow your husband to go on a boy's trip
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: with Cody in his dirty little thoughts, I know.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: And then Cody talks about like, well, there would have
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to be a lot of healing that would have to
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: occur for us to even get to that point. And
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: then he says like, I'm very forgiving. I'm like, okay, sure, Dan.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you know he's sitting there pissed off so high
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: heaven because he's been sued by Christine and again his
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: house hasn't sold at this point. He's I mean, may
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: be under contract for the new mcmachin. I don't really know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: but like things are not solid for him right now,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and he's getting sued and I believe they can go
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: back three years for that child support based on all
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the money that he's been making on Sister West. Till
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you know, he's upset and he's pissed, and he's trying
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to pretend he would hang out with David and maybe
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: someday hang out with Christine. But the mask starts to slip.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, we're not healed though, Yeah, and she
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: likes to undermine me by trying to take all my money, right.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And then Suki's just like, well, have you seen each other?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Enough to like actually do some real healing, like maybe
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you should, you know, hang out and like try and heal,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and Cody just gets silent. He's just like, well, maybe
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: or maybe not.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: This is the weird kind of power dynamics that sometimes
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: emerge with Cody and other women. It's really misogynistic. It
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: is an attempt to be quite intimidating and or threatening.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And he seems like a little little man, like I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: could just squash him if I wanted to. I'm like,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know who you think you are trying to
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: intimidate you, frail, little old little peacock of a dumb.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Man straight up, I know. It's like he gives off
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: this energy, like how dare you even ask me? Like
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I'm the King?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Do you not know who I am? Right? I could
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: stand up and walk out right now, then fucking do
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it and don't pay him, I know, and then fire him.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Why are we having Robin again? I ask again, Like
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: she's giving absolutely nothing. She's unwilling to even watch the clips.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Why are we employing these people?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And that is also really weird because I don't remember
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: last year she was watching the clips last year, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: this year she's just looking down the entire time, and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: it has like nothing.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: To say because we validated them by giving them thirty
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: episodes in season nineteen, so they must thought to themselves, Oh,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: this this stuff that I'm doing, this villain stuff that
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm doing, Like I don't have to show up one
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: hundred percent, I don't have to let them film in
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: my house, and I got thirty episodes. So this is
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: what they're thinking, and this is the perfect time to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: lower the boom and fire their.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Asses, right, But we're not going to.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Or fucking cancel Sister Wives. Just people talking.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: About that, but we're not. We're gonna get season twenty.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So Cody just sits there and says maybe not, like
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to heal or whatever,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: and Sukie's just like, well, why don't you meet Christine
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: where she's at? And this is the last part of
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the episode where Cody just looks at her and stares
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: at her silently like a psychopath and goes something like
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: this picks off a piece of hair all dramatically. Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: She's like, what is that supposed to mean? Is that
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: symbolic of something? He's like, no, just a hair I'm
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: picking it off. I just want to condescend I I.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Just want to beat him up. I'm sorry, I shouldn't
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: say that. Legally that's a joke, but like, I just
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: want to do unspeakable thanks to this man.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Why I hate them so much? And I usually watch
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: each episode twice and it is so difficult for me
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to take a second pass with some of these episodes.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I just can't stand them so deeply, so deeply all
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the way into my butt for angry and mad at
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: these people are real.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It's terrible. And then we get to the preview, and
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: so the next couple tell alls we're gonna talk about
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Coyote Pass.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: We could have done this in one tell all, but no,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: we go we.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Talk about Coyote Pass, and Janelle says something like Cody
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: always seems to.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Come out ahead because he's selfish.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: And he's also been financially abusing everybody right taking that
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the money.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: That's the truth.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And then we have another conversation about the luggage rack metaphor,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: which we talked about before, and it's how a metaphor
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: for their marriages and blah blah blah. Then we're gonna
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: ask Robin the stupidest question ever. Does he put your
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: luggage on the luggage rack in a hotel?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: What do we think the answer is going to be.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: She's gonna be like, no, it's Cody, and.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Cody's gonna be like, absolutely, Idea, that's my wife because
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm a gentleman and my entire identity is being her
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: mea exactly yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And then we have Christine saying something like appearance has
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: always mattered the most to Cody, and like he started
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: focusing more on what everybody else was saying in the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: world instead of focusing on the inside and being a
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: good person. And then we have Mary making a comment
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: about Christine and like why does she have to talk
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: about Cody all the time? To David, Like, Mary, why
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: don't you just shut up?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not a girl's girl. No, you're not a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: girl's girl.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe stop simping for Cody please, And then we have
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Cody calling the rumor about Robin and him only wanting
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: each other just internet bs, right, so I'm like, oh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: so you are reading they twitting Hi, Hi, we hate you.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: And then we have Janelle saying Cody has to justify
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: all of the reasons why Robin is so perfect to him,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: which I love the little digs. And then we have
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to ask Robin again, would you consider polygamy?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: We've already done this.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: How many times would we have to?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And then we referenced it through flashbacks already.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And we all know no matter what she says, they
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: will never be polygamists ever again.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: If I could get a guarantee bullshit that it would
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: work out, then yeah, I'd be open to it. Fuck you,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Fuck you.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: You're the one who.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Ruined these families and these relations.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: You literally stole Cody away from his entire family.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the reason there's no guarantee women like you.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yep, because you're an evil snake.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yep. You're an awful person.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with a hard job.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I thought she looked kind of pretty.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Not that we'd need to comment on people's appearances, but
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: we will. Oh, but I thoughtually looked kind of pretty,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Sutch and she smiles. I think, oh my gosh, you
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: should smile more. First of all, because your mouth is
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: literally trendly like it's it's the gravitational pull of your
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: mouth line and stuff is going down to your boobs
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like really bad. It's like a muppet.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: It's super bad. These are called marionette lions, Robin, and
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you want to probably get those fields or something. Anyway,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying smile more, But then I sound like
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: those toxic men are just like, why don't you smell more? Yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: but I mean it looks pretty. Smile more.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And Robin's case though, yeah, she could take that advice.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't think she looked pretty at all. Well, I
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: means because I think she's an ugly, horrible, awful person.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, and so it's just you know, leaking out
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of her in her appearance.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: But there have been other seasons recently where she's looked worse,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like her whole head looked like a square when her
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: like eyebrows were apostrophes, and she did not have herself
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: together at.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: All because she was high on ambient, which.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Looks better now. Yeah, she got some highlights and her
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: eyebrows are better and she's putting some makeup on. I'm
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: just trying to throw a bone. You're being too nice, okay,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so any final thoughts that we get up
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: on Addie.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Just I guess we'll be back next week.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just exhausted a third. I'm really fatigued by this.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like wondering what TLC is even thinking, like why,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: who thought? What world? How did we get to let's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: give them thirty episodes after last season.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I just like don't understand. I really don't understand it.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: After the Christina David wedding special, I'm just like exhausted.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is so much.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Do they not care about the feedback of their fuers?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Obviously not, because they keep doing the same crap over
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: and over again. I'm just like, if season twenty is
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: thirty episodes again, it's gonna take us a whole year
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to get through it. Yeah, I mean we're gonna cover it. Obviously,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: we're gonna we have a job to do.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I was just sorry, that's all now. I was on
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: chat GPT today looking up what the most popular reality
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: TV recap podcasts are recapping to see if Sister Wives
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: even placed. It did not, but the shows that did
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: were like RuPaul's Drag Race, The Challenge, Team Mom, The Bachelor,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, should we like switch Gears or something
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Married at First Sight? Oh my god, my god, but
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: so boring. But I'm just like, I don't maybe there
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: are other shows out there that a couple of raccoons
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: in a dumpster should maybe focus on, which because this
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: is so toxic and I think production is crazy. I
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: think they're insane. There's no blueprint here, there's no logic,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason, and I'm exhausted.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I just like can't imagine their editors having to go
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: through all of this footage and then like piece it
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: all together and all these different timelines, Like how do
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you even keep it?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I could never.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I can't even keep it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Could never. I mean I have put out content before
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: in my previous life, before I was a record you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: were really famous, like yeah, and I had classes and stuff,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: and I'd have to do video editing and I'd have
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to like weave it all together. I mean, it's a lot,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a lot. They must have just a hundred video editors
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: trying to cobble this together. So it makes some kind
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of sense, and no Slash, it doesn't. It doesn't make
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: any sense. Are do you ever approach the actual topics
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: with any kind of clarity and honesty that we want
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to talk about it? Say, oh God, I need to pray.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I was wondering.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: So I was watching this like, what are we going
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to do this summer. I don't think the Plaths are
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: coming back anytime soon. There is so much drama happening
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: with the Plaths. I don't know if y'all know.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I want to cover plathfill
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: if Olivia is gonna.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Be Olivia Olivia disgust vagina chest hair. He's always walking
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: around with like his buttons open, so it looks like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: a total v for vagina, So cringe. It's so terribly bad.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And of course we know that Ethan has a girlfriend.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: She's so pretty.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Well, but I've been on his Instagram and he deleted
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: all the photos of her, so I wonder if they broke.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Did he wear like a mega hat or something with
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: his new girlfriend?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. She looked like she was maybe
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: into the tradwife stuff.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I follow a little Lydia Plath. You
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: know she got married to that gooper, Yeah, and they
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: want to have babies and stuff. And then of course
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: there was all the drama at Lydia's wedding where Micah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And Isaac got into it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Isaac got into a drunk fistfight and Michael I had
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. His whole face was rearraised
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: by my on some ISYESI yeah. Then of course you've
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: got Kim who is a despicable alcoholic and then Barry,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: who apparently, according to Veronica, Micah's ex girlfriend who left
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: him after that big wedding debacle. She says, Berry's a
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: freak yeah, and talks about reptilians and space overlords and
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: he's probably totally like in the Manno Sphere.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Probably with his non lips, taking steroids and stuff.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: God, it could be so good, but that's another show
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: on TLC. Yeah that they're completely fucking up.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And it's like there's so much layers
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: to that show and that's why we loved it. But
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: then it's just like we're not gonna talk about Kim Stui.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Like, God, you make it so hard DLC because you
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: suck yep.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And it really is such a disservice because TLC used
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to be so fucking liah and he used to platform
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the worst of the worst and we used to enjoy it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Now it's just like, but we never pretended that they
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: were great, No, we never like gave them all of
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: this leeway, Like Cody Brown like as if he's an
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: actual person with integrity who should be on a couch
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: talking and pontificating and lecturing us about how to be
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a good per The fuck you for like call him out?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Do more, do better? It makes me mad and I'm
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: just I'm just screaming into the void and I'll stop now,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: But I do have a question. Is there anything else
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons before
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: we get up on ad here be in realm?
• 43:03
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• 43:05
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• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It really helps us grow the pod so more people
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: can join us in the dumpster, and we really appreciate it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Till the cat Well, if you thought you were bad
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: about Sister Wives, you going be even madder when we
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: start talking about Polly Family. And so we will be
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: back later this week to do a recap of that
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: shit show Free. Oh my god, that shit show. So
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: please come back for that, and until then, do not
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: forget that we have nothing but love for you
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: And please a mighty by guys,