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M and M Extra June 08, 2026 - Counting Votes in California -- Scott Pelle Fired from CBS · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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  Speaker 1: of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they've
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  Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M and
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  Speaker 1: M Hot Topics in the News and wisdom from life.
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  Speaker 1: It's Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is Eminem Extra.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Mark Davis. I'm Mike Gallagher. I'm the Mike
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  Speaker 2: part of the M. He's the Mark. You've been on
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  Speaker 2: vacation for six weeks.
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  Speaker 3: You were there for you were in Japan for three
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  Speaker 3: weeks prior. I went to Japan for a month.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like it's been forever since we've been around,
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  Speaker 2: but we are back, and gosh, I missed you. It's
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  Speaker 2: we've been out of sorts and I haven't seen any
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  Speaker 2: numbers yet. So we did enough eminem podcasts, eminem extras
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  Speaker 2: every day clear so that you and I were caught.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't miss any days. Do you think the audience
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  Speaker 2: though knew we weren't live.
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  Speaker 3: Number one, I don't so, and number two, even if
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  Speaker 3: they did, they loved it. Do you know the kind
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  Speaker 3: of feed I'm sitting around, I'm doing the staycation. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just trying to get stuff done to the house. Lisa
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  Speaker 3: and I are discovering new restaurants in Dallas and Fort Worth,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And every once in a while I'll
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  Speaker 3: get some social media hit or somebody in the DMS
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  Speaker 3: I'll say, hey, love that Eminem extra episode where you
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  Speaker 3: guys talked about massages, or where you guys talked about
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  Speaker 3: some other thing that we that we did for one
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  Speaker 3: of the uh for one of the sort of the
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  Speaker 3: evergreen untimed play anytime kind of things, the broad conceptual
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  Speaker 3: ones that we did. People just let we loved doing them.
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  Speaker 3: But now you know, for at least for the time being,
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  Speaker 3: here live hot breaking news every day and so welcome
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  Speaker 3: back to you as well.
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  Speaker 2: It just takes everything. It throws my whole day out
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  Speaker 2: of whack when you're not around. And we got into
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  Speaker 2: this routine, in this rhythm where you and I would
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  Speaker 2: do you do your r respective shows, We do our
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  Speaker 2: seven thirty five hit in the morning Dallas time, then
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  Speaker 2: we come along and do do the Eminem podcast every
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  Speaker 2: day live at noon eastern eleventh Central, and we were
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  Speaker 2: just kind of out of a rhythm and out of sorts.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, did you have a nice did you
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  Speaker 2: get a nice relaxing bla.
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  Speaker 4: It was the best. It absolutely was. We love going places.
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  Speaker 3: You really made us want to go to Japan today
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  Speaker 3: you made me want to get back to New York.
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  Speaker 3: I just got on the phone with Lisa. Two years ago.
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  Speaker 4: We went.
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  Speaker 3: Our anniversary is September sixth, and we did a New
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  Speaker 3: York trip year before last. For our twenty second anniversary
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  Speaker 3: is twenty four coming up this year, and we did
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  Speaker 3: the US Open for the first time because we're both big,
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  Speaker 3: big tennis fans, and we got to see Novak Djokovic
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  Speaker 3: and Ben Shelton in the semis. Blah blah blah. She
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  Speaker 3: is an enormous I mean, I'm a fan. She's just
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  Speaker 3: a huge fan from the era of Roger Federer and
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  Speaker 3: Rafael Nadal. And there's an adult documentary film or series
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  Speaker 3: out we got to catch that these are just two
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  Speaker 3: of the most admirable athletes in any sport.
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  Speaker 4: Ever.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it just came out literally today that on like
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  Speaker 3: a Tuesday, I might have to pull a Mike Gallagher
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  Speaker 3: and do like the one or two day New York trip.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be Roger Federer, Andy Roddick, Andre Agassi and I'm
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  Speaker 3: forgetting somebody McEnroe, John McEnroe, Okay, doing an exhibition match
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  Speaker 3: there at the Billy Jeans Center there in Queens for
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  Speaker 3: the US Open. And so I don't know that that
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  Speaker 3: may be something we have to do. But we had
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  Speaker 3: just a fantastic time just around the home turf and
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  Speaker 3: hanging out and getting stuff done around the house and
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  Speaker 3: had a black.
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  Speaker 2: Nice And then, of course, as I shared with you
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night, speaking in New York, I went and saw
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  Speaker 2: Death of a Salesman at the Winter Garden Theater, one
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  Speaker 2: of the greatest plays in the American you know, library
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  Speaker 2: of Plays. Guess what year Arthur Miller wrote Death of
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  Speaker 2: a Salesman about Willie Lohman, the Salesman the Tram forty nine,
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  Speaker 2: nineteen forty nine, so eleven years before I was even born,
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  Speaker 2: years before you were born. And yet right now they're
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  Speaker 2: making magic on that stage. And people make fun of
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  Speaker 2: me for liking theater, and I'm a theater geek, and
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  Speaker 2: I love to go to the theater. I appreciate, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the performing arts. In fact, i'm misperforming. I wish somebody Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know lyric stage. I mean they did, they
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  Speaker 2: did another version of Guys and Dolls, and I just
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  Speaker 2: I missed it. I would have loved to have played
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  Speaker 2: nicely nicely again. But you know, I've done a number
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  Speaker 2: of shows over at Lyric Stage. They often work out
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  Speaker 2: of the Majestic Theater, but I misperforming and I love theater.
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  Speaker 3: We love seeing you because it was right there and
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  Speaker 3: we got to see him doing the nicely A sit down.
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  Speaker 4: Sit down, You're rocking the boat.
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  Speaker 3: This was fantastic because here's the journey little secret. I'd
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  Speaker 3: say this even if we weren't, you know, live across
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  Speaker 3: multiple platforms, and even if you weren't here, but you're
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  Speaker 3: just so unbelievably talented.
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  Speaker 4: You're genuinely good at this.
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  Speaker 2: I like doing it, but I'm not as good as
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  Speaker 2: I think I am. But I but I do love it,
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  Speaker 2: and I love the medium, and I particularly like musical theater.
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  Speaker 2: But man, a straight play like Death of a Salesman.
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  Speaker 2: Nathan Lane, now you think of him as a comedian
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  Speaker 2: and a comic, and he's a very funny topy of.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, lamboyant and all that.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a gosh but an actor. He's a maze
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  Speaker 2: and Laurie metcalf I watch her with a comic background too,
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  Speaker 2: But she's Roseanne, Roseanne, right, one of them. She played
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  Speaker 2: Roseanne's sister. And and yet she's gone on to have
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  Speaker 2: this stellar theatrical career. And they're both from the theater.
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  Speaker 2: Both from the theater background. Even though people may know
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  Speaker 2: him from film or or or or or TV, they
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  Speaker 2: have a theater background. And that's a different animal.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's you're on stage eight times a week in
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  Speaker 2: front of a room full of twelve hundred people, and
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  Speaker 2: you lay it all out watching them cry, watching Nathan
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  Speaker 2: Lane sob and cry, and tears are pouring out of
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  Speaker 2: his face. And and pardon me for being a little
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  Speaker 2: graphic here, but it's not. And and and just you know,
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  Speaker 2: and Laurie Metcalf, the anger, the rage that she feels
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  Speaker 2: as Linda Lowman, Willie Lohman's wife. And they're up there
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  Speaker 2: for three hours and they do that eight times a week.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: You got to do this, this cathartic thing, this slow build,
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  Speaker 3: slow boil resulting in this cataclysmic moment. Then you go
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  Speaker 3: grab some z's come back, grab a meal, and do
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  Speaker 3: it again tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I do it all over again, or do two on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: do it twice on Saturday, do it that way, and
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  Speaker 2: an evening performance. It's crazy. Look, Daddy, Warbucks took everything
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  Speaker 2: out of me. I don't know how they do it, Oliver,
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  Speaker 2: Warbucks was a beating, you know when I did the
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  Speaker 2: play way play that on any but anyway, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: our theater stuff. Before you went on vacation and did
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  Speaker 2: your staycation, I did go back to a land that
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  Speaker 2: I love to visit so much. Now, look, I love
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  Speaker 2: to go, I love to come back. There's just to me,
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  Speaker 2: nothing like Japan. It's and I love it because it
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  Speaker 2: all works.
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  Speaker 4: Yep. I'm oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: And then I get mad because when I come back,
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  Speaker 2: I say, why can't we be like them? Why can't
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  Speaker 2: we do it like they do it?
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  Speaker 4: Mark?
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  Speaker 2: Why can't we have trains that run? Why can't we
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  Speaker 2: have buses that are clean? Why can't we have cabs
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  Speaker 2: that are pristine? Why can't we have streets. You can't
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  Speaker 2: find a gum wrapper on the streets of Tokyo. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, fun fact, no garbage cans. There's no
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  Speaker 2: trash cans around because the Japanese people, they take care
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  Speaker 2: of their stuff. They don't throw stuff on the ground
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  Speaker 2: and they'll go that way.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you put your soda can? If you're just
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're sucking a diet coke on the corner
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  Speaker 3: of you know, well, you.
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  Speaker 2: Take it with you until you get to your destination,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where you disposed of it. There are no
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  Speaker 2: very few trash cans in the public streets of Tokyo.
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  Speaker 2: The train that Shinkin send bullet train, oh my word,
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  Speaker 2: two hundred miles an hour and it's cryst I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a trip that you'll never You and Lisa should
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  Speaker 2: someday visit Tokyo, go to Osaka Kyoto. What a beautiful history.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the temples there and just the cherry blot
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  Speaker 2: all of it. It's just incredible.
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  Speaker 3: That was There's an answer, there's an answer to the
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  Speaker 3: question you asked. Is sort of rhetorically, but I think
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  Speaker 3: there's kind of an answer. Is that Japan is so functional,
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  Speaker 3: it is so precise. There's such a universality to the contributory,
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  Speaker 3: participatory feeling that the citizenry has and the the why
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  Speaker 3: can't why don't we have that? Why can't we have that?
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  Speaker 3: Is because Japan, pardon the way this sounds, I will
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  Speaker 3: then explain, because Japan doesn't have to mess with this
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  Speaker 3: pesky diversity thing. And I don't mean that even necessarily
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  Speaker 3: racially at all. We welcome everybody. Everybody's from everywhere. It's
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  Speaker 3: just a big messy experiment, and everybody brings their deal
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  Speaker 3: and their vibe and the way they do things, and
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  Speaker 3: everybody argues, et cetera, et cetera. Japan not only is
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  Speaker 3: just everybody's Japanese, which is self evident, but it's just like,
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  Speaker 3: this is the way it is, everybody's Japanese, this is
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  Speaker 3: the way we do things. And there's that old adage about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the don't be the nail that sticks up,
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  Speaker 3: because you.
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  Speaker 4: Will get hammered down.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just it is just baked into that culture
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  Speaker 3: of a uniformity and a cooperative spirit, almost at the
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  Speaker 3: expense of anybody's personal vibe or personal feelings or personal whatever.
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  Speaker 3: It's just the complete opposite of what we do. And
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade it for anything. But there is much
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  Speaker 3: to admire, as you've pointed out about having it their
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  Speaker 3: way for a few days.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm so intrigued by, for example, their form of
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  Speaker 2: government and I looked it up. You know, they have
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  Speaker 2: a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary government, meaning they have
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  Speaker 2: an emperor. He is largely ceremonial, okay, But they do
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  Speaker 2: have an elected parliament that governs the country. The parliament
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  Speaker 2: call I think it's I don't know how to pronounce
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  Speaker 2: it if I'm saying it right, but the diet d
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  Speaker 2: I e. T dent or diet. But that's their parliament.
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  Speaker 2: And they have two chambers. They have a lower house,
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  Speaker 2: the House of Representatives, and a house and then an
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  Speaker 2: upper house, the House of Councilors. Citizens elect representatives to
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  Speaker 2: their parliament, and then the parliament elects the prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: But the citizens have a say, they have a voice.
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  Speaker 2: And I wonder what elections are like over there.
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  Speaker 4: I see what you did there? Nice Where I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to do?
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  Speaker 3: You have to wait a week for results for mayor
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  Speaker 3: of Tokyo, and then.
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  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: come the the mail in ballots six seven, eight days
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  Speaker 2: in and all of a sudden. Mark what's going on
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  Speaker 2: in California is an utter disgrace. It and it makes
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  Speaker 2: people so mad. And when I pointed out today and
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  Speaker 2: look there's there's cynical people who are watching and listening
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  Speaker 2: to this podcast who say, ah, a couple of conservative
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  Speaker 2: big mouths. These guys, you know, they're they're just whiners,
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  Speaker 2: they're sore sports. So what the Democrat picked up the
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  Speaker 2: rear and uh, Nithra Ramen or noodles as Jesse Water
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  Speaker 2: is over, Fox calls her Nithra Rahman came out of nowhere,
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  Speaker 2: a little known socialist, far left progressive city councilwoman comes
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  Speaker 2: along and displaces Spencer Pratt who has had such an
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  Speaker 2: impressive run and has one over hearts and minds of
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  Speaker 2: people of all political persuasions. And I said on the
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  Speaker 2: show earlier today, I said, do you realize all you
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  Speaker 2: need is your gym membership gym membership to vote in California,
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  Speaker 2: all you need is can I play for you? Fox
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  Speaker 2: News Channels Anita Vogel check out what is required to
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  Speaker 2: get your voter ID to be able to vote in
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  Speaker 2: the state of California, by law, by design. This is
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  Speaker 2: their election system.
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  Speaker 6: City California Secretary of State website. You don't have to
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  Speaker 6: have a driver's license or a passport to register to
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  Speaker 6: vote in California. You can have alternative forms of ID,
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  Speaker 6: like a gym membership card, or a prescription drug label
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  Speaker 6: or an insurance card. The DOJ sent a lawyer to
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  Speaker 6: observe the vote counting process in LA on Friday, and
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  Speaker 6: the Department currently has a lawsuit before the Ninth Circuit
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  Speaker 6: Court of Appeals to open up and audit the voter
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  Speaker 6: roles in California. So far, the state has refused to comply.
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  Speaker 6: There are still an estimated three million plus ballots left
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  Speaker 6: to count john statewide, so results could take weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Gym membership, debit card, membership, gym membership. And when I
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  Speaker 2: said that, people one caller didn't believe me. There's no
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  Speaker 2: way I should weigh way, Jim, I wonder if you
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  Speaker 2: can use your library card?
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  Speaker 4: I mean this, why not? They don't.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember the story I told you in twenty
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  Speaker 2: sixteen when I voted in New York City for Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump and Republicans.
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  Speaker 4: I walked off the road. Y you offered your.
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  Speaker 2: My driver's Siday refused it. They laughed at me. I
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  Speaker 2: pulled out my wallet to give them my driver's license
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  Speaker 2: and the late left. She said, we don't require ID here.
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  Speaker 2: What's your name? Oh, you're under this.
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  Speaker 4: ID you speak of? Yeah, what is this? What is this? ID? Please?
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  Speaker 4: Eighty truth?
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  Speaker 3: Quick post post audio killed my double audio in my
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  Speaker 3: ear post off.
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  Speaker 2: We got another double audio there, Eric boy, Eric's having
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  Speaker 2: a day. We're having We're having a day.
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  Speaker 3: It's a long time since we were both here live.
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  Speaker 3: I know, let's just tape about twenty and just take
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  Speaker 3: another month.
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  Speaker 4: And goes to.
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  Speaker 3: Day.
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  Speaker 2: On the technical side, that's okay, all good, but this
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  Speaker 2: is so Look what the question is, what do we
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  Speaker 2: do about it? What are we going to do about it?
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  Speaker 2: John Thune? Are we going to pay it past the
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  Speaker 2: Save America Act?
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  Speaker 4: Or not? They don't want it. They don't want it.
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  Speaker 3: People were asking me about these four, these four Republicans
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Shame here, Tom Tillis, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski,
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  Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell notably absent from that. Even though he's been
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  Speaker 3: throwing a little bit of a hissy John Cornyn, he
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  Speaker 3: did not, you know, step across that line. He's been fussting,
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  Speaker 3: moaning on social media about having his clock clean Ken Paxton,
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  Speaker 3: but he at least he played ball properly. And somebody
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  Speaker 3: asked me, and I ask you, Mike Why don't they
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  Speaker 3: do that? Why why don't they go along with a
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  Speaker 3: Save America Act? Why don't they cooperate? It's because they
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  Speaker 3: don't want people do what they want to do, and
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  Speaker 3: they don't do what they don't want to do. They
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  Speaker 3: don't feel it in their hearts, they don't believe in it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well let's walk through that. Then.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go with that for a minute, because I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: at a loss. I know that every poll shows that
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  Speaker 2: eighty plus percent of Americans want this thing passed. They
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  Speaker 2: want voter ID laws passed, They want a national purging
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  Speaker 2: of all these goofy COVID rules and all the crap
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  Speaker 2: that stemmed from twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: All right, if eighty.
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  Speaker 2: Percent of Americans are for this, why then are Mitch McConnell,
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  Speaker 2: Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and who's the fourth one, Tom
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  Speaker 2: Tom Zillis? Why why are they against it? Why are
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  Speaker 2: they against the Save America Act?
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  Speaker 4: Why? Mark? Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because they're not conservative on this issue. Their heart and
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  Speaker 3: their mind do not beat conservatively on this. They are
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  Speaker 3: perfectly okay with the Democrat gamesmanship of cheating and fraud
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  Speaker 3: and the susceptibility of our elections to this kind of
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  Speaker 3: nonsense because they really enjoy the invitations to Georgetown cocktail parties,
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  Speaker 3: they like being spoken nicely of in mixed media circles,
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  Speaker 3: and they don't want to be perceived as being a meno, nasty,
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  Speaker 3: cruel person who wants people to have voter ID. And also,
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  Speaker 3: of course, because voter ID is racist.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. I mean, it's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot, and because but look, it makes as
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  Speaker 2: much sense as anything else I've ever heard. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Lisa Murkowski was the loan when you were on vacation
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  Speaker 2: last week. She was the only Republican vote against funding
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  Speaker 2: ice and border patrol through the end of Trump's second term.
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  Speaker 2: I know, that's how bad she is, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: they've got rank choice voting in Alaska. She's a disaster.
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  Speaker 2: She's she's got to get elected. She's got to get
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  Speaker 2: she's got to go. They got to get rid of
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  Speaker 2: her in office. Mitch McConnell, what's Mitch McConnell's excuse, is
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  Speaker 2: he really?
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  Speaker 4: So let's let's.
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  Speaker 2: Again, let's go with this for it, because I'm fascinated
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  Speaker 2: by what you just said, Mark, So you're telling me,
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  Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell is a closet liberal on that issue.
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  Speaker 3: Not everybody is ticked down the list conservative on everything.
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  Speaker 3: There are people who are fairly conservative, but they're soft
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  Speaker 3: on gun rights, fairly conservative but soft on biblical marriage,
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  Speaker 3: fairly conservative but soft on borders. Fairly conservative but soft.
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  Speaker 3: There's some people who kind of go at it, like
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  Speaker 3: the cafeteria conservative on this, not on that, yes on this,
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  Speaker 3: not on that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: But why But why.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Would a why would a reliable conservative like Mitch McConnell
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: want election fraud? I don't understand this. I don't even
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: understand the argument. Okay, he's not conservative. I don't even
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: see this as a conservative or a liberal issue. Do
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: not mansense of the eighty percent of people that are
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: that favorite passing voter ID there's a whole bunch of
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Democrats in there, Mark.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, there are, Yes, there are so. So the coin
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: then flips not to why they are not okay with it,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: but why they are okay with the status quo. They
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: are willing to not just tolerate, but even embrace a
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: flawed status quo that allows fraud, and they are They
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: just don't want the heavy lifting of being on the
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: right side of this, of seeming conservative maybe, and I
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: may have taken me a while to stumble on this.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe these are people who particularly do not want to
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: hand Trump the win.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: That's what I think it is. I think it's anti Trump.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's absolute anti Trump. I think that there
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: are I don't think it's conservative or liberal. I think
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: it's Trump derangement syndrome. Wow, I don't think it's a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: lack of conservatism. I don't forgets. There's a bunch of
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: they hate this guy, Mark. There are laws soups now
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: now piling up against the beautification projects in DC. They're
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: suing to stop the cleanup of DC. They're suing to
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: stop two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebrations. Yeah, they don't
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: want They don't want America to celebrate to the two
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty because Trump, of course, is the host
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: of all the parties.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: We didn't get to do this last week. How did
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: it play out on your show? So I'm sitting there
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: wandering around the house. Lisa and I are figuring out
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: where to go to lunch each day, you know, playing
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: with the dogs, and the stories are just playing out
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: and playing out about artist after artist after artists either
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: bailing from the America two fifty A couple of them,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Martina McBride, what there were a couple of there were
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: a couple of mysterious entries on that of like what
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: these people still have careers? I don't know. We will
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: never be on the winning end. To go back to
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the culture conservatives will never have the lie. I mean,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: we can get we can get Ted Nugent, we can
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: get kid rock rock, and that's probably about it, which
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I show up for. I'd show up for that double
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: bill anytime. But this, this shouldn't even be about Trump.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: This should be about America and celebrating our two hundred
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: and fiftieth. Is it fair or unfair to say that
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: if Trump is president, it's going to be about Trump?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, they're the ones talking
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: about the two hundred and fifty dollars bill with his
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: picture on it. I mean, but still, shouldn't you just
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: be able to put a pin and all that and
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: show up and celebrate America if you're a musician, if
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: you're an artist. It just it kind of made me
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: sad how this thing kind of just collapsed.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's since you mentioned it, let's bring up
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: bill Maher over the weekend because he talked about the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: artists boycott of America's two hundred and fiftieth Let's check out,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: and I look don't want to I don't want to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like him. I know how he feels about people's say
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I do. I absolutely confess that I do. I would
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: love you talk about having a beer with somebody and
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: enjoyed hanging out.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I think he's smart.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Tucker took a potshot at him
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the other day, Tucker Carlson said, Bill Maher is untalented,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: unfun I've known that he's terrible all these years. I mean,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it's that's another subject. You and I've talked about that
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: before with Tucker Carlson. Well, I don't know what's happened
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to that guy. But nonetheless, here's Bill Maher on his
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: HBO show talking about these performers and musicians and artists
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: who are bored boycotting America's two hundred and fiftieth celebrations.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I think these people pull they all pulled out. There's
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: a question about what looks best for the Democrats, because
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: I don't think that looks good. It looks like you
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: are just what people say about you you don't really
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: love America. It looks like you think Trump is more
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: important than the country itself.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Now it's just a big maga rally, this whole.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Thing because they all pulled out, So now it's just
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Trump and Lee Greenwood. Wouldn't it been better to play
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: this gig. It's a month long gig. Lots of people
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: like just celebrating America. Can't we all just celebrate America itself?
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I leave Trump out of it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Listen to the cheers in the audience too, more so
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: from that audience, from that audience, a leftist audience, a
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: progressive audience. But he's right. Can't you just put your side,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: your Trump hatred for one gig and perform because you
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: love the country. But see, he said something that I
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: think is real powerful. He said a mouthful they don't
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: really like America?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: No, and they know.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: And I think we've both done this talk show at
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: some point in our various careers. Why are conservative is
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: more patriotic than liberals? Because we just are. It doesn't
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: mean you can't find a liberal that doesn't love the country,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: of course you can. I know liberals who I would
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: say absolutely love the country in exactly the way that
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I do. Nope, because we value the founding. We value
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the Founders, we value the Constitution, we value our traditions.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: We understand that we are a nation filled with flaws
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: and sins of the past, but we are not a
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: racist hell whole, and the have the average liberal brand
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: of patriotism. I always say that conservatives love the country
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: as it is, and liberals love it based on what
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: they are trying to turn it into.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way to put it, I mean,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and you're right. They just detegrate the country every chance
• 22:16
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• 22:19
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• 23:22
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• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And I hate to beat up on people who lose
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: their jobs. You and I both have the same, I think,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: level of grace for people. We don't want to see
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: people get fired. We just don't. I don't want to
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: see people canceled. So so sixteen minutes, Scott Pelly, he
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: sits down with the New York Time.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: You have my thorough approval. Let's go for it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Well, let's play it. Let's go for it because we
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: got to check out. So he gets let's a little backstory.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: CBS News is being run now by a woman named
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Barry Weiss. Barry Weiss was the founder of the Free Press,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and she was kind of viewed as kind of a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: maverick and a and she's anti woke.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: She's not a in term of a libertarian, you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: not a doctrin Air conservative by any measure.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Not at all, and has been tasked with turning around CBS. Well,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the the legacy media people are mortified.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: They can't believe.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That this woman has got her hand in the in
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the cookie jar at all, and they're very upset about it,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and they're going on and on about her and carrying on.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So they have a big meeting. And the backstory, if
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: you read the reporting about the big meeting, they had
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to come to Jesus. While all the staffers at CBS
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: was that Scott Pelley, who has been he was the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: former CBS anchorman, wound up being one of the CBS
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: anchor reporters. He was very upset about Barry Wise about
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the new ownership and what is it sky Dance or whatever,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: river Dance the new company running CBS. So he he
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: wants to take her on and instead of having a
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: big public you know, meltdown, they wanted to talk to
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: him privately. Well, he wouldn't meet with them. They wanted
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to take him to dinner. They said, look, you're one
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: of our stars. One of our stars is unhappy. We
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: want to talk to you. Well, he wouldn't do that,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and then he waited till the public meeting that they
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: all had, and then he went off on them.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Well, they fired him. You know, you want to be
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: in subordinate. You're insubordinate. You're out. You're no better than anybody.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Bye bye.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Don't let the door hit you in the you know
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: what you know on the way out. So they fire him. Well,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: after he gets fired, he sits down with the New
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: York Times. Now, the New York they have their own podcast,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: all right, So the New York Times podcaster, whoever the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: woman is interviewing him. I played this clip. I swear
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to you. I got thirty text messages from people saying
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that's AI. This is not real, Mike, you're playing a
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: fake phony video. I want to give you Scott Pelly
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: and how he feels now that CBS called his bluff
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: basically and fired his butt.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Listen to what he said to The New York Times.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I saw.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: Nick Bilton's email and then saw him reading to my
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: broken hearted people off his phone. I felt that somebody
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: had to stand up for the broadcast, not just the broadcast,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: but the people. There are people in that room who
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: go to war zones when they are pregnant. His newsrooms
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: are sort of like the military or the police, or
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: the beautiful people at the FDN y down the street.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: It is a life threatening job in many instances, and
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: very strong bonds, very emotional bonds are found, are developed
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: in that kind of setting. And to have people running
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: CBS News who don't know that, have never felt that,
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: and don't understand it is a tragedy. I never expected
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: to see a tragedy.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Mark, can you now you? Oh my?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Comparing what they do? Now, look, I got to give
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: you one more, one more minute. You got to hear
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: one more because you heard him actually compare being a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: pampered up, preened over, highly compensated anchor reporter at CBS,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to the military, to the firefighters, to men and women
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: who run into a burning building to save lives. Oh no,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: he's not done. Here's some more.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: So you were part of this gang of stupid, crooked
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: people that don't care about your country.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Stupid.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: I can, I can take that stiff.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: Don't care about the country.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Here we go.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: We got I've never worn the uniform, uh huh. But
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: I've been in combat for this country in Afghanistan, Andrew
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: rock Kuwait, been shot at, spent nights in foxholes, filling
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: up with water in.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: The desert, the desert, water in the desert.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: I'm not aware that the President of the United States
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: has ever done any of those things for his country.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: Please correct me if I'm wrong. You become a journalist
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: because you love the First Amendment. You become a journalist
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: because you love the country.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: And while all the.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: Other descriptions that the President used about me might be applicable.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: They are not that mine. That uh oh, he's weeping again,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: he's crying.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: There is no democracy without journalism. H it can't be
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: done right.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: And that is.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: Why I am a journalist.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Wow, now where to begin? Good?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I saw I saw some acting Saturday night at Death
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: of the Salesman.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: They can't hold it, they can't they can't lave and
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: said wow, I yeah for her.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Lauren Metcalf said, I want to give my Tony back.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I give it to my head what I mean to now,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: let's just but let's presume for just a moment that
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: he believes that that's how he sees himself. They see
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: themselves first of all, when he says in his sarcastic, smarmy, arrogant,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know if the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: president has ever gone to as far as I know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the way, I remember I saw Trump on the floor
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of the stage in Butler, Pennsylvania, with blood running down
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: his face. They tried to kill the man. Three times.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: They have been shooting at President Trump. Scott Pelly or
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: haven't you noticed? I mean, this is the guy who
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: comes who passes himself off mark as a serious person
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: representing CBS. Do you think they are all this delusional?
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: No?
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: But you can tell that the key signal of that
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: delusion is when they take a look at somebody coming
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: in who is not a hardcore leftist like Barry Weiss,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: and they view her stewardship as some evil that must
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: be pushed back against. They cannot for one minute believe
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: that is no longer going to be run by hardcore libs,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and that is those black arm bands all around, cue
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the crocodile tears, and and there you are. I think
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: this I think sixty Minutes has the opportunity to get better.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: They said that, oh it's good down, it's going to
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: be terrible now that he's not there. Sixty Minutes has
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: not been star power driven since the era of Mike
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Wallace and Ed Bradley and Morley Safer. I don't think
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I haven't much. I mean, Anderson Cooper's been there for
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: a while. He just wrapped up an honorable few years
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: of service there on sixty Minutes. I haven't cared really
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: if Cecilia Vega there, you know, Bill Whitaker. There are
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: people doing interesting stories there. I still catch it every
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: once in a while, but the heyday of this show
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: is long past, and I hope they can get better
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and be more fair and and have a boost in
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: public esteem as a result.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I gotta give you one more.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I gotta give you the trifactas here's the trifecta.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I gotta play one more. We got to close.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Lordie, Lordie, there's a tape and it's Scott Pelly on
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the New York Times podcast. I'm telling you right now, Mark,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: buckle up, brace yourself. Because you think what you've heard
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: so far was wild, it gets even better, all right.
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: The meeting that I was in was about whether sixty
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: minutes was going to even survive or not.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: So you walk in, and what was the energy of
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: the room?
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: Hostile, dismissing. Before I could take my seat, Tom Sabrowski said,
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: this is a firing offense. I was confused. I wasn't
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: sure who he was talking about in the room, but
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: it became plain very quickly that they were talking about me,
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: and they were unhappy about the meeting that had occurred,
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: a meeting that had ended in thunderous applause.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: For me.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's about the firing. Now wait a minute,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and I want to play the clip where he talks
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: about comparing being fired from sixty minutes like your spouse
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: was murdered.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: Oh no, about it at an emotional level, the best
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: thing that I can imagine in terms of describing it
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: is that it's it's like your spouse was murdered. There's
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: some moments of the day I feel fine. There are
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: some moments of the day that I just frankly fall apart.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: When I least expect it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: Not that there's any particular trigger, but I do want
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: to be clear that I do not feel.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Sorry for me. I don't care about me. I'm fine.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: I care about these people that I left behind.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: The people who are still trapped. They're trapped, they're being
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: held high.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: This institution that I love so much. You said that
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: I've been there thirty seven years. I've been married forty
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: two years. So that's the depth of my devotion.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Mark, this man is not well. This is a that's
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: an unwell personnel. Look that is sting because from him.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: For those wondering, that is Lulu Garcia Navarro doing the
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the yeoman's job of keeping a straight face during that.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: But it's the New York Times, so she was probably
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: soaking it up. I compare being fired from sixty minutes.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: It's like your spouse was murdered. Look, Hi, my spouse
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: wasn't murdered. I lost my spouse to cancer, and I
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: can tell you there ain't any job there, anything that
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: can happen in the workforce that would compare my wife dying.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: But that's what that lunatic thinks with a straight face.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Mark, Oh, a very straight face and a herd brow
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: and a se jaw.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: That's amazing.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Since it's not alone, I see, he's so how many
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: people feel that way the entire existing media culture does,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: as far as as the leftward leaning part of it,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: which is to say, the vast majority. And there's there's
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: good news in this because their conniption fits that they're
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: triggering shows that real changes in the wind, and they
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: may kind I mean, Stephen Colbert, he's gone, thank god
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: for some of the changes at CBS. I'm a kind
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: of a fan of the Tony Ducoppo five thirty Central Time.
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  Speaker 3: I like, got a lot better than David Muir and
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  Speaker 3: Tom Yamis over at NBC. I think it's a pretty
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  Speaker 3: good newscast, and I think you're looking at the door.
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  Speaker 3: I need two minutes from you for something. We touched
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  Speaker 3: on this and it happens tonight. Let's see how it
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  Speaker 3: goes and talk about it tomorrow. Tell everybody why you
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  Speaker 3: think it's a bad idea, and I totally get it.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of love that he's going.
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  Speaker 3: Yet you hit me with some logic this morning. That's
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  Speaker 3: pretty good. You're a little dicey, maybe a lot dicey
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  Speaker 3: on President Trump going to the NBA Finals in New
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  Speaker 3: York tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, and let's take some time. I mean, look, we
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  Speaker 2: can go. That's what I love about the podcast. We
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  Speaker 2: can go as long as we want to go. Let's
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  Speaker 2: let's spend some time on this because it's a big
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  Speaker 2: issue for New Yorkers. There are a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are mad because of all the security precautions that then
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  Speaker 2: now have to be taken.
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  Speaker 4: Not for nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Last night, right under Madison Square Garden in Penn Station,
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  Speaker 2: six people were stabbed randomly by some lunatic you know,
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  Speaker 2: who's got a knife and just plummets and plunges a
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  Speaker 2: knife into strangers. That's where Madison Square Garden is located.
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  Speaker 2: So there's going to be tons of security. New Yorkers
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  Speaker 2: hate that. It's bad enough as it is. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: I left yesterday from New York and they had a
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  Speaker 2: stupid parade on Sixth Avenue. It took like forty five
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  Speaker 2: minutes just to get to the Queen's Midtown Tunnel to
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  Speaker 2: get out of New York to go to LaGuardia. So
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  Speaker 2: imagine that on steroids, with all the security that has
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: to go in to President Trump's visit. So number one,
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  Speaker 2: while I get it the optics of the President going
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  Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals, he's a New Yorker.
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  Speaker 4: He loves people, you know, that's right, Sure, wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, okay, But number one, it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: major hassle for lots of New Yorkers who are I
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  Speaker 2: predict going to boo him tonight. And when that happens,
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  Speaker 2: then it's going to give the media a narrative look
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  Speaker 2: at the crowd boo.
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  Speaker 3: But he gets worried when they do, if they do,
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  Speaker 3: when they It's funny here, dynamics of a crowd. If
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  Speaker 3: you got twenty thousand people in a basketball game, right,
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  Speaker 3: and one and five hundred of them boo, that's right,
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  Speaker 3: the microphones will pick it up. I mean Trump got boots,
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  Speaker 3: especially in a football game, and then they'll turn it into.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Then they'll turn it into resounding booze and overswhelming booze.
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  Speaker 2: It could be five hundred people, but there will people.
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  Speaker 2: There will be people who are going to boo boo.
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  Speaker 2: And again a lot of it might because they had
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  Speaker 2: to get stuck in the bathroom because they couldn't exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Where I was going. If this, if it was possible
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  Speaker 3: to do this purely and cleanly, just him go, and
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  Speaker 3: I know that's impossible because there are security things. You
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  Speaker 3: got to get to the game two hours early. No
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  Speaker 3: bags of any kind and what they were. You know,
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  Speaker 3: at any given event like this, there's thout thousands that
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  Speaker 3: can't get in, so they set up a massive screen
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  Speaker 3: outside in the parking lot or adjacent to the venue,
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  Speaker 3: so you got to get the feeling of being there.
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  Speaker 3: They can't do that. All of that has been scrapped.
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  Speaker 3: So when Trump is booed tonight, and he will be,
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  Speaker 3: will will it be from people who a don't like
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  Speaker 3: him or be who might even voted for him but
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: just don't like the pain in the neck that he
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  Speaker 3: turned this game into.
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  Speaker 2: But more than, but more than any of those reasons,
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  Speaker 2: only the biggest reason I have for not being very
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  Speaker 2: happy that he's going tonight is I worry desperately for
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  Speaker 2: his safety. I worry about his protection. I trust the
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  Speaker 2: Secret Service. I know he's in good hands, but this
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  Speaker 2: is a man that they've tried to kill at least
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  Speaker 2: three times. There are plenty of people who would celebrate
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  Speaker 2: and dance in the streets if the un thinkable happen
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  Speaker 2: to him. And I don't like him leaving the White House.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say, where do you set the bar?
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  Speaker 3: Because I kind of I feel you, I hear Lord
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  Speaker 3: knows outdoor events are a little dicey. I kind of
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  Speaker 3: think the interior of Madison Square Garden.
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  Speaker 2: Is probably gonna be Okay, well it should be, but
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  Speaker 2: then again, sure should it should, but who knows. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you got thousands and thousands of people heading into a
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  Speaker 2: massive arena. Can every one of them be wanded? Is
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  Speaker 2: every single one of them going to be through a
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  Speaker 2: metal detector? I work now he'll probably be in a
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  Speaker 2: box behind bulletproof that glass, and that's as it should be.
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  Speaker 2: This man needs to be safe. But I end with
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  Speaker 2: this great text from Robert in Burlson in Burlston, Texas.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate this text message. Robert said, Hey, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: I know you're a Christian, and I know you mean well,
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  Speaker 2: but please stop spreading fear over our president. Be concerned,
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  Speaker 2: but speak protection over him in faith. I would think
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  Speaker 2: the Lord would not be happy with you in the
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  Speaker 2: he went around proclaiming fear not Okay, thank you, Robert.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate the welming advice.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, let me go to bat for
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  Speaker 3: you and God at the same time. And Robert, what
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  Speaker 3: I hear from you is not fear. It's no concern.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's it's righteous concern. It's the kind
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  Speaker 3: of cautiousness that you would want for a loved one
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  Speaker 3: of your as a president. We love a country, we
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  Speaker 3: love nobody should want anything horrible like that to happen.
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  Speaker 3: You're being vigilant, you're being cautious, and he, in vintage
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  Speaker 3: Trump style, essentially says I'm going to go where I
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  Speaker 3: want to go, and how'd you like to be the
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  Speaker 3: one to try to stop him?
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  Speaker 2: By golly, they've given us a good reason to be concerned.
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  Speaker 2: They've given us reason to be used for his safety.
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  Speaker 2: But you're right, Robert, Remember prayer. I am deep in prayer.
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  Speaker 2: I pray for his safety every single day. I pray
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  Speaker 2: for his security. I pray that they don't harm one
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: hair on his head. And I thank God that Mark
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Davis is back from vacation. We can we can say
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  Speaker 2: all as well in the universe again, because eminem eminem back,
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  Speaker 2: this is back.
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  Speaker 3: Or our back, m R m Emin and Mike and
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  Speaker 3: Mark are back. The eminem extra is back is subject
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  Speaker 3: subject verb agreement at all times.
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  Speaker 2: Well we we is back and yes, we is so happy.
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  Speaker 2: Happen Monday, My friend, we'll do it again tomorrow. Have
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  Speaker 4: God bless America. I love you.