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Genevieve Wood from The Heritage Foundation · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Couple of things on my mind. Tonight, in the second
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  Speaker 1: half hour of the show, I'll be talking about cretum.
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  Speaker 1: You've been hearing creatum in the news reports here in
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  Speaker 1: the past couple of days. Cretum. It is a substance.
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  Speaker 1: It can be natural, it can also be chemically created.
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  Speaker 1: It is a pain relieving substance. Many people swear by
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  Speaker 1: it and say it's, you know, at a great alternative
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  Speaker 1: to a man made, chemically generated laboratory uh created opioids,
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  Speaker 1: and that they swear by it. They sw it's wonderful
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  Speaker 1: it did, That's what they say. And there's build a
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  Speaker 1: building demand for more and more people are using it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the Governor's come out now say we got to regulate this,
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  Speaker 1: we got to make it a schedule one drug. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure what the scheduling stuff is all about, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a schedule one drug. And uh, here's I'm not definitive.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like I'm taking a stand, no line in
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  Speaker 1: the sand, nothing like that. But here's my curiosity. We
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  Speaker 1: are legalizing all this other stuff, Why is it suddenly
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  Speaker 1: necessary to make illegal this cretum? It just doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: make sense to me that that and my gut, this
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  Speaker 1: is just my instinct. My gut says that perhaps perhaps
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  Speaker 1: it is to create a taxation situation to generate revenue
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  Speaker 1: for the state of Ohio. And before you tell me
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, let me just say this. Lots of stuff
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  Speaker 1: is addictive, but the state makes money on it, so
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  Speaker 1: it's legal. Alcohol can be addictive, but the state makes
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  Speaker 1: money on it. In fact, it wasn't until you relatively
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  Speaker 1: recently ten years ago. To buy this addictive substance, you
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  Speaker 1: had to buy it directly from the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: There were state stores where you'd go to buy your booze.
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  Speaker 1: And now the state allows other entities, grocery stores and
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  Speaker 1: so forth, to operate state stores, so it's okay because
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  Speaker 1: the government's taxing it. Tobacco can be addictive, but it's taxed,
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  Speaker 1: so it's legal. Gambling can be addictive, but we've got
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  Speaker 1: casinos and now we've got sports gaming in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio. Marijuana in some minds can be addictive, others
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  Speaker 1: say it's a gateway drug. But now in Ohio it's
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  Speaker 1: legal both medically and recreationally. So why is kratom suddenly
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  Speaker 1: the bad guy? State Senator Steve Hupman will join me
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  Speaker 1: in the second half hour to have that discussion. He
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  Speaker 1: has the benefit of being both a member of the
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  Speaker 1: legislature and has a medical background, so that should be
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  Speaker 1: an interesting talk first up tonight. You know me, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a traditionalist. I believe that we were better then, whenever
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  Speaker 1: the he then might have been, because what we are
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  Speaker 1: now is not impressive. And remembering that from which you
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  Speaker 1: came is part of our existence. It's how we build tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: You take the best of what was incorporated into what
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  Speaker 1: is so that you can have something that will be
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  Speaker 1: even better. That is the nature of being an American.
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  Speaker 1: In America, we used to cherish our heritage, grow from
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  Speaker 1: our heritage and remembering those what were universal values? What
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  Speaker 1: was that universal concept of right and wrong and good
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  Speaker 1: and bad? I think is a big part of the
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  Speaker 1: step ladder that gets us back up out of the
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  Speaker 1: sewer that we have become into where we need to be,
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  Speaker 1: so that we can go where we need to go
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  Speaker 1: to be a positive, prosperous society. Again, this constant, this
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  Speaker 1: constant dwelling in the lower levels of existence just makes
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  Speaker 1: normal the lower levels of existence. I said mentioning heritage
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  Speaker 1: and that is intentional because the Heritage Foundation actually has
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  Speaker 1: a billboard campaign. Yes, billboards, there's something else that's traditional
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  Speaker 1: Americana billboards. It'll be running for I believe the next
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  Speaker 1: couple of months, about eight weeks or so, and these
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  Speaker 1: billboards are encouraging those traditional values, those memories of what
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  Speaker 1: was once and probably should be again. I want to
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  Speaker 1: get Genevieve Wood on the line here, a spokesperson with
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  Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation I believe, based in Washington, d C. Genevieve,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for making some time this evening. I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, thank you for making the time. It's good to
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  Speaker 2: be with you.
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  Speaker 1: These billboards people will, you know, obviously mock and say
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  Speaker 1: ah chah billboard. That's stupid. It's but if they were
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  Speaker 1: not effective to some degree, there wouldn't be billboards. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it comes down to. And a few years ago
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember, I don't do you remember the ones
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  Speaker 1: that were that what part of thou shalt not don't
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  Speaker 1: you understand? Signed by God? Which I just thought that
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  Speaker 1: was genius. I have looked over the billboard's Heritage Foundation
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  Speaker 1: is putting out there, and they are exactly I believe
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  Speaker 1: the messages that we need for people today. So just
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  Speaker 1: as an American citizen, let me say thank you to
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  Speaker 1: you and the Foundation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the opportunity to talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I love put through all that you're in the
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  Speaker 2: big intro coming into it as well. Look, we're getting
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  Speaker 2: ready to celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary and
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  Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of looking back, rightly so, cherishing
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  Speaker 2: our history, but we really need to be looking forward.
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  Speaker 2: What do we want the next two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: years of America to look like? And that's really look
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  Speaker 2: at this Billboard campaign is about. We believe we are
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  Speaker 2: on the cusp of another golden age if we seize it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a once in a lifetime opportunity for our generation
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  Speaker 2: to take what we've been given and really make the
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  Speaker 2: most of it and give the next two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty years even better than they've been in the past.
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  Speaker 2: And but you know, we know we can't do that
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  Speaker 2: by ourselves. And if the Billboard campaign is to put
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  Speaker 2: ideas out there, but as you as I know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a website people can go to that we promote that.
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  Speaker 2: They're a campaign called shapeth Future dot com. Shape the
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  Speaker 2: future dot Com. And the point of that is when
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  Speaker 2: people see the bill billboards, they agree with it, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe they don't it, they'll go to that website. They
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  Speaker 2: can tell us one of the biggest challenges facing America.
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  Speaker 2: What's the biggest what keeps you up at night or
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  Speaker 2: what gets you up in the morning. What are the
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  Speaker 2: issues that are driving What are the ones that we
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  Speaker 2: really need to tackle. Because we believe the American people
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  Speaker 2: have always been the answer, and I think there'll be
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  Speaker 2: the answer in the future. So that's why we're doing it.
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  Speaker 1: One of them hearkens back to the Reagan era, which
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  Speaker 1: I think is a very positive thing for very a
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  Speaker 1: very large portion of the United States of America. It's
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  Speaker 1: morning again in America, and that one is very traditional
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  Speaker 1: farmer on the combine, out in the field, sun coming
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  Speaker 1: up over the horizon, and it is Uh. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That one just grabbed me for some reason. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that one. I love that one. I also
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  Speaker 2: love the one that says, you know, America, we need
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  Speaker 2: more of this. Yes picture, we have a couple of
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  Speaker 2: different ones in are picture of families, because that's good
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  Speaker 2: and that's what America is built upon. The family U
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  Speaker 2: and you know, we can make the argument that the
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  Speaker 2: family has been under attack in this country for a
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  Speaker 2: number of years, but we see that. I think the
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  Speaker 2: American people get that. So that's what these ideas are
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  Speaker 2: there for. To remind people what are the great things
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  Speaker 2: about America? What are the ideas? Because we are countries
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  Speaker 2: sounded on ideas, not you know, not a certain ethnic
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  Speaker 2: group or a certain tradition, religious tradition. It's a country
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  Speaker 2: sounded on the idea of and that all men are
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  Speaker 2: created equal, and those ideas are good ideas. That's what
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  Speaker 2: we want this campaign to remind people of the good
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  Speaker 2: of America. How do we keep it going more of
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  Speaker 2: the challenges that take us off track, and how do
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  Speaker 2: we keep and how do we re engineer to get
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  Speaker 2: to get to the next two or fifty years, as
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  Speaker 2: I said, to be the golden age.
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  Speaker 1: We need more of this. I think is particularly pointed
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  Speaker 1: because there are so many things that so many of
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  Speaker 1: us can look at each day and say we need
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  Speaker 1: more of this. And I had one of the listeners
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  Speaker 1: sitting me a message earlier on Facebook. He was parking
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  Speaker 1: a fast food restaurant last night in the dark, and
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  Speaker 1: one of the newer trucks pulled up behind him and
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  Speaker 1: had their lights on those And I'm constantly complaining about
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  Speaker 1: these laser beam led lights on new vehicles. And he said,
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  Speaker 1: the guy pulls up behind him with those laser beam
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  Speaker 1: lights hitting in the rear view, and the guy turned
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  Speaker 1: off his lights behind him, and he appreciated the gesture
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  Speaker 1: show much so that as they were going through the
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  Speaker 1: drive through line, he paid for the guy's meal. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: we need more, We need more of this. That message
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  Speaker 1: right there, those positive interactions with each each other we've got.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to talk about those, put them on our
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  Speaker 1: social media and so forth, as quickly as we put
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  Speaker 1: complaints about the carpet cleaner that left a spot.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Being encouraging is a great trait, and anybody
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  Speaker 2: can do it. You just have to remind yourself to
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  Speaker 2: do it right. It's easy to complain, and that's not
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  Speaker 2: what we want to do. We want people to remind
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  Speaker 2: it of what's good, recognizing there'll be challenges ahead and
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  Speaker 2: things we have to fix. And I encourage people go
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  Speaker 2: to shape the future dot com, build that build that
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  Speaker 2: out just to give us your feedback. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's this great great opportunity. We've been blessed really the
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  Speaker 2: way know other country ever has.
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  Speaker 1: Genevieve Wood, by the way, is joining us right now
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  Speaker 1: on the Legacytatment group dot com phone lines with the
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  Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation. How do you measure Genevive the effectiveness of
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  Speaker 1: the billboards?
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  Speaker 2: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it going to be largely people interacting on the
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  Speaker 1: website or is there any kind of metric out there
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  Speaker 1: you'll be using to see if they're making an impact.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's surely one of them. But I will tell you,
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  Speaker 2: I mean the main thing. These are running in about
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  Speaker 2: eight different states, marrily in the Midwest, Ohio clearly being one,
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  Speaker 2: but we're also in Florida. And the goal of this
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  Speaker 2: is to help us inform what we do every day,
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  Speaker 2: which is we have first principles that we abide by,
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  Speaker 2: but we try to make sure those principles are entried
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  Speaker 2: into the law and are defended in law, and getting
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  Speaker 2: the feedback from the people that shapes how we do
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  Speaker 2: our jobs. What we promote on Capitol Hill doesn't change
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  Speaker 2: our principles, but it says this is what people are
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  Speaker 2: concerned about, This is what the kind of all the
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  Speaker 2: Americans want to see pass it's going to make their
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  Speaker 2: lives better. And I'll tell you, I'm sure your listeners
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  Speaker 2: are probably familiar with Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett from Texas. Billboards
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  Speaker 2: are not running, and she recently complained that she said
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  Speaker 2: she hated the Heritage Foundation with every part of her body.
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  Speaker 2: Because you want to know why we actually do focus
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  Speaker 2: groups and try to find out what Americans care about.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that's what people in Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Should be doing.
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  Speaker 2: It's finding out what the citizens of this country think,
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  Speaker 2: what they're concerned about, as I said, what keeps them
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  Speaker 2: up at night, what they think we should be doing
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  Speaker 2: more of, what we should be doing less of, and
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  Speaker 2: that should inform the way our political leaders governed and lead.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly based on principle, but they have to listen to
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  Speaker 2: their constituents, the American people. So that's how we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: measure this. We're gonna yes, it'll be the number of
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  Speaker 2: people that come to the website. There will also be
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  Speaker 2: what were the majority of answers given what's concerning to them?
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  Speaker 2: What are they excited about in the America's future. That's
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  Speaker 2: how we're gonna measure it, because that's how we're going
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  Speaker 2: to inform our work.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Ms Crockett's point of view is shared far too
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  Speaker 1: often my people in elected office at at pretty much
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  Speaker 1: every level, and they seem to believe that they are
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  Speaker 1: elected to go live on taxpayer dollars because they are
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  Speaker 1: the grand poopas of all wonderful thought. They don't understand
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  Speaker 1: you're not there to do what you believe in. You're
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  Speaker 1: do there to do what we believe in. That's the job,
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  Speaker 1: right and if you can't do that job, you should
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  Speaker 1: probably probably go back to cleaning the fry machine. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you. I appreciate these billboards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I hope we get a chance maybe to talk here
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of months after they've been up and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe talk about you know, what kind of engagement
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  Speaker 1: you got from the public and the positives, the negatives,
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  Speaker 1: the wisdom that came from this and uh. And I
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  Speaker 1: have a feeling we may be talking about a second
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  Speaker 1: round of billboards, perhaps surrounding the holiday season, because I
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  Speaker 1: really believe that you know that that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: when you're sitting in a red light or driving on
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  Speaker 1: a country road, those signs still get your attention.
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  Speaker 2: They do, they do. I would love to come back.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love how one of my colleagues come back. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for pointing out the campaign, but also just for
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  Speaker 2: cheering it on. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Shape the Future dot Com is the website Shape the
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  Speaker 1: Future dot com