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Mega Edition: The New York Academy Of Art And The Epstein Narrative They Tried To Build (8/22/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: To the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm your host, Bobby Capuci,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a morning update. By now, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: everybody is familiar with Maria Farmer's story. I'm sure everybody
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  Speaker 1: has heard what she has had to say about Eileen
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  Speaker 1: Guggenheim and the New York Academy of Art. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: New York Academy of Art, they decided that they were
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  Speaker 1: going to initiate an investigation into the claims made by Maria.
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  Speaker 1: They did their one sided investigation without reaching out to Maria,
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  Speaker 1: without reaching out to Maria's lawyers, and basically wrote a
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  Speaker 1: hit piece and covered it up as some sort of
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  Speaker 1: report by an independent law firm. And when it.
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  Speaker 2: All broke out, I was quick to tell you that it.
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  Speaker 1: Was a nonsensical report. It was all one way traffic,
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  Speaker 1: And how can you have an all encompassing report if
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  Speaker 1: you're only speaking to one side of the people involved
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  Speaker 1: in the story. And it was never the sort of
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  Speaker 1: report that anybody was going to take serious. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it was met with great blowback by many people. Well,
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  Speaker 1: fast forward to a couple of days ago, and the
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  Speaker 1: New York Academy of Art has issued an apology to
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  Speaker 1: Maria Farmer for their nonsensical report, and to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, it doesn't go far enough. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: their attempt to demean Maria, their attempt to destroy Maria's credibility,
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  Speaker 1: is an unforgivable act. And while their apology is a
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  Speaker 1: step in the right direction, the real fix here and
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  Speaker 1: the real show of support towards the survivors would be
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  Speaker 1: the removal of Eileen Guggenheim. That is what needs to occur,
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  Speaker 1: not a candapology, not a oh well, this is a
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  Speaker 1: reason why we did this. There is only one way
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  Speaker 1: to begin the process of truly showing that the New
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  Speaker 1: York Academy of Art is willing to change and willing
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  Speaker 1: to listen to the survivors about what occurred when the
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  Speaker 1: New York Academy of Art and Eileen Guggenheim introduced Maria
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  Speaker 1: to the disgusting monster Jeffrey Epstein. Now, them taking responsibility
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  Speaker 1: here is a start, but until Eileen Guggenheim is removed
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  Speaker 1: and knocked from her perch, then it's just words. So
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  Speaker 1: I would really like to see the New York Academy
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  Speaker 1: of Art take the next step here and push Eileen
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  Speaker 1: Guggenheim out the door. There are plenty of other people
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  Speaker 1: who are capable of doing that job sitting in that seat.
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  Speaker 1: There is no need to keep this lady who is
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  Speaker 1: accused of facilitating Maria's abuse in the position that she
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  Speaker 1: is already in. In fact, it's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 1: Our article is from art net News. The author is
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Corbett. Headline After trustees resign and students voice shame,
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  Speaker 1: the New York Academy of Art issues a profound apology
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  Speaker 1: to Epstein accuser Maria Farmer. And again, While I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a good start, and Maria most certainly deserves an
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  Speaker 1: apology from these people, I don't think that the pressure
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  Speaker 1: should be let up until Eileen Guggenheim is out the door.
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  Speaker 1: The New York Academy of Art has been in turmoil
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  Speaker 1: since its alumna, Maria Farmer, a Jeffrey Epstein survivor, accused
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  Speaker 1: the school of enabling the late sex offender's abuse. In response,
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  Speaker 1: the Academy hired a law firm to investigate Farmer's claims,
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  Speaker 1: but instead of helping to close the book on this issue,
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  Speaker 1: as Academy president David Kratz had said he hoped when
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  Speaker 1: it was first released. Aspects of the investigation have been
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  Speaker 1: characterized by students and alumni as victim blaming and biased,
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  Speaker 1: only adding fuel to the fire.
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  Speaker 2: And I'd like to.
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  Speaker 1: Give a shout out to the students at the academy
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  Speaker 1: who have stepped up and taken up the baton and
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  Speaker 1: the challenge to force change within their school. At the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, these are the students that are
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  Speaker 1: paying the money. These are the students that are on
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  Speaker 1: the hook for all of the loot should be listened to.
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  Speaker 1: These students should not be ignored and what occurred at
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  Speaker 1: this place while Maria Farmer was there should never ever
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  Speaker 1: have happened. You send your children to a place like this,
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  Speaker 1: You go to a place like this, you expect that
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  Speaker 1: the facilitators and the people at the school, teachers, professors,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, are there as allies people to
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  Speaker 1: help you along your journey to success. You're not supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be pieced off to Jeffrey Epstein and Gilain Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: by the dean.
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  Speaker 2: It is absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Reprehensible and I am happy that the current students are
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  Speaker 1: standing up here and telling this academy that what they
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  Speaker 1: did was absolutely disgusting and doubling down on it with
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  Speaker 1: this shitty ass report is unacceptable. On July thirtieth, three
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  Speaker 1: members of the Academy's board, it belied our rostav No,
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  Speaker 1: Alina Lundry, and Valerie Cooper, resigned in and Mass. Two
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  Speaker 1: weeks earlier, the actress Naomi Watts also resigned from the board.
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  Speaker 1: Their decisions were a result of the school's handling of
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  Speaker 1: Farmers allegations. According to an alum who has knowledge of
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  Speaker 1: the situation and asks to remain anonymous, the former board
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  Speaker 1: members cannot be reached for comment, and I think their
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  Speaker 1: actions say everything.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: When you have this many board members giving up their
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  Speaker 1: board seat and walking out of a boardroom, you know
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  Speaker 1: that shit is bad at this institution. And I really
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  Speaker 1: would like to hear one or all of these board
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  Speaker 1: members go on record and talk about what drove them
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  Speaker 1: to leaving the board.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the.
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  Speaker 1: Whole entire behind the scenes conversation. Would be very, very
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  Speaker 1: interesting to have a line on. The remaining board members
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  Speaker 1: did not comment on the resignations, but the executive committee
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  Speaker 1: issued a profound apology yesterday to Farmer and other alumni
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  Speaker 1: who are upset and angry with its response. According to
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  Speaker 1: a letter it wrote to alumni, the board is also
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  Speaker 1: making a thirty thousand dollars donation the amount Epstein gave
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  Speaker 1: in scholarship support to the academy in twenty fourteen, to
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  Speaker 1: a charity for victims of sexual assault. All right, full stop.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, thirty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: I think you should up that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Second of all, instead of giving it to a charity,
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  Speaker 1: I think you should give it directly to Maria Farmer
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  Speaker 1: for her battle against cancer that you people helped facilitate.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 1: How about you give it directly to Maria, send her
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  Speaker 1: a check, whatever it may be, because you people have
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  Speaker 1: caused grievous harm to Maria Farmer. And it is not
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  Speaker 1: the sort of harm that just goes away. It's something
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  Speaker 1: she has had to live with for her whole entire life.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all because Aileen Guggenheim facilitated her abuse with
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. And that's just the that is, when you
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  Speaker 1: get down to the very bare bones of what's going
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  Speaker 1: on in this story.
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  Speaker 2: That is exactly where we're at.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what needs to be remembered, and a pittance
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  Speaker 1: of thirty thousand dollars to an unnamed charity is not enough,
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  Speaker 1: all right? Why don't we triple at quadruple that and
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  Speaker 1: deposit it just directly in Maria's bank account. That's what
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  Speaker 1: you idiot should be doing. Farmer has previously told Art
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  Speaker 1: News that Eileen Guggenheim, who is chair of the Academy's board,
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  Speaker 1: introduced her to Epstein and his alleged co conspirator Gielene
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell at her thesis show in nineteen ninety five and
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  Speaker 1: encouraged her to sell them her work at a discounted
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  Speaker 1: price because of the financial supp for Epstein had offered
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  Speaker 1: to the academy. Epstein served on the school's board from
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety four. And just to
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  Speaker 1: backtrack real quick, he made the thirty thousand dollars donation
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  Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, folks, That is after his conviction for
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  Speaker 1: the disgusting crimes that he was convicted for, and they
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  Speaker 1: still accepted his money, they still had him around the property.
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  Speaker 1: So excuse me if I don't think they're thirty thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars and they're a hollowed apology are enough. The following summer,
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  Speaker 1: Farmer said that Guggenheim invited her to another alumni on
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  Speaker 1: an uncomfortable visit to Epstein's ranch in New Mexico. Guggenheim
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  Speaker 1: initially denied that either encounter took place, but later admitted
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  Speaker 1: to visiting the ranch after another former student approached Art
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  Speaker 1: News to corroborate Farmer's story. Guggenheim maintains that she never
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  Speaker 1: introduced Farmer to Epstein at the thesis show, nor where
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  Speaker 1: she's she involved in the sale of her work. So
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  Speaker 1: she's already proven a liar here right. Oh I was
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  Speaker 1: never in New Mexico at Jeffrey Epstein, liar, oh I
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  Speaker 1: was never involved in making her sell artwork.
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  Speaker 2: Liar all right.
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  Speaker 1: So Guggenheim, like the rest of them, has started off
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  Speaker 1: telling us lies.
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  Speaker 2: So how are we supposed.
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  Speaker 1: To believe anything else this smarmy ass woman has to
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  Speaker 1: say if she has already been caught in two lies, folks. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Maria's over here dropping truth bombs like we're in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of Dresden during World War Two. The carpet bombing continues,
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  Speaker 1: and as each day passes, as each week passes, and
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  Speaker 1: more information starts pouring out.
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  Speaker 2: It is obvious that Maria.
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  Speaker 1: Farmer is ironclad and her account.
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  Speaker 2: Of what occurred is truth.
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  Speaker 1: Firm's investigation concluded that farmer story contained discrepancies and that
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  Speaker 1: Guggenheim should be exonerated as a result. The board issued
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  Speaker 1: a unanimous vote of confidence in Guggenheim's leadership several weeks
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  Speaker 1: before the resignations, so it was unanimous, and then a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks later the resignations occurred, so there must have
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  Speaker 1: been something that went on between those two time periods.
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  Speaker 1: After the report's completion, however, many students and alumni were
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  Speaker 1: dismayed with what they perceived as a biased and sexist
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  Speaker 1: language in their report, while some former trustees felt uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: with its contents and reception and reception, the sources said.
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  Speaker 1: The Academy initially stated that the board commissioned the report,
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  Speaker 1: but sources said that some trustees were not even aware
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  Speaker 1: of it until after its findings were delivered. This sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a Guggenheim move if I've ever seen one. Was
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  Speaker 1: she finessing the board trying to get this report out
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  Speaker 1: to clear her name because she understands the stakes and
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  Speaker 1: understands what's coming down the pike? Eventually could be but
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the board members decided after the report
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  Speaker 1: came out that they were going to resign in mass
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  Speaker 1: is not a good look for the Academy and certainly
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  Speaker 1: not a good look for Gugenheim. Asked about the discrepancy,
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  Speaker 1: the Academy clarified that the school and its president, David Kratz,
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  Speaker 1: commissioned the investigation. Again, I don't have any evidence to
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  Speaker 1: prove this right, but I am sure that Gugenheim had
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  Speaker 1: her dirty ass hands all over this the FAE. Guggenheim
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  Speaker 1: was most assuredly involved in getting this report out there.
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  Speaker 1: An open letter signed by ninety six current students and
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  Speaker 1: alumni aims to make known are shamed to be associated
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  Speaker 1: with the actions of NYAA leadership and their legal team,
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  Speaker 1: the letter says. The letter says as its signatories were
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  Speaker 1: reviewed by artnet News, but its authors declined to release
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  Speaker 1: the names publicly. The school declined to provide the letters
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  Speaker 1: signatories with the full thirty page report, so their letter
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  Speaker 1: is based off the law firms five page summary as
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  Speaker 1: well as related press coverage. And that's what they always do, right,
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  Speaker 1: These sort of reports are always kept close to the vest.
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  Speaker 1: They'll release the summary, but they never released the whole report,
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  Speaker 1: and then they act like they're being transparent and like
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  Speaker 1: nobody should question them. Well, you dirty sons of bitches. Gougenheim,
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  Speaker 1: your dean, your board member, your love, love love facilitated
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  Speaker 1: the abuse of Maria Farmer, point blank, period. Now it
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  Speaker 1: is up to you to completely and utterly clean up
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  Speaker 1: your organization. Canned statements and measly thirty thousand donations to
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  Speaker 1: unnamed charities will not do the trick. The letter notes
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  Speaker 1: the potential conflict of interest in the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: law firm commissioned to conduct the investigation previously represented Guggenheim,
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  Speaker 1: following the release of a petition calling for her ouster
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  Speaker 1: this spring. It also criticizes the report suggestion that Maria
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  Speaker 1: Farmer was responsible for the abuse that her younger sister,
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  Speaker 1: Annie Farmer also endured at the hands of Epstein. The
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  Speaker 1: report claimed that Maria ignored red flags in Epstein's behavior
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  Speaker 1: which would have suggested to a reasonable person that introducing
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  Speaker 1: her fifteen year old sister to Epstein might end badly.
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  Speaker 1: The letter calls this a double standard that could have
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  Speaker 1: just as easily applied to Guggenheim, and when this came out,
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  Speaker 1: I was apoplectic, because, as everybody knows, I consider Maria
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  Speaker 1: a friend at this point. She's not just some unnamed
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  Speaker 1: person who has her name in the news or you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone you see on TV. This is somebody who has
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  Speaker 1: become a friend of mine, somebody I speak with pretty
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  Speaker 1: much on a regular basis, and somebody who is engaged
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  Speaker 1: in the battle for her life right now. And the
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  Speaker 1: fact that these scumbags at this academy had the audacity
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  Speaker 1: to even run that report makes me so mad and
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  Speaker 1: makes me want to just I don't even you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's not even words to explain how aggravating and how
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  Speaker 1: disappointing it was when this report was first released, especially
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  Speaker 1: knowing that Maria was bringing the truth. This survivor blaming
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  Speaker 1: rhetoric exemplifies an alarming dissonance with the cultural moment. The
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  Speaker 1: letter reads its author's ad to our knowledge, Farmer has
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  Speaker 1: taken no legal action against the school or Guggenheim. Nevertheless,
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  Speaker 1: THEAA Board of Trustees commissioned a purportedly independent investigation of
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  Speaker 1: Farmer's assertions. In a letter to the press, the board
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  Speaker 1: explained that THEAA took measures to investigate Maria Farmer's allegations
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  Speaker 1: in order to assess whether they necessitated further action. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: the summary of this investigation seems to indicate a singular
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  Speaker 1: focus on discrediting Farmer's testimony, rather than delving into Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: involvement with the nyaa's board, his long time financial ties
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  Speaker 1: to the school, or his personal relationship to Googenheim. And
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  Speaker 1: that is what they all try and do. They all
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  Speaker 1: try and distance themselves from Epstein and Maxwell while at
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  Speaker 1: the same time painting the survivors like their liars. And
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  Speaker 1: we see it from all of these big ass organizations,
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  Speaker 1: and inevitably, every single time they try it, it's proved
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  Speaker 1: that they are lying and that their assertions are false.
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  Speaker 1: And this is another reason why I am so adamant
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  Speaker 1: that the survivors are telling the truth. Every single time
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  Speaker 1: they bring something up. Every single time they bring something
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  Speaker 1: to light or corroborate something, you see the unhinged response
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  Speaker 1: of the people who are being accused. Normal people when
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  Speaker 1: they're accused, have a measured response to things like this
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  Speaker 1: and challenge it head on without being.
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  Speaker 2: A vile dick.
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  Speaker 1: But these people, they only have one reaction, and that's
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  Speaker 1: to discredit they're victims, and basically that's what these people are.
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  Speaker 1: All of these schools, these universities, all of these people
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  Speaker 1: that were involved with Jeffrey Epstein, that facilitated his abuse,
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  Speaker 1: are the first ones to get stupid in these letters
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  Speaker 1: and try and trash the survivors. And that is a
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  Speaker 1: big tell for me, folks. The letter went on to
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  Speaker 1: urge the Academy to add alumni positions to the board
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  Speaker 1: as a way to implement increased transparency, student safety, and
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  Speaker 1: a bridge between those who make decisions and those affected
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  Speaker 1: by them. Yes, independent oversight is a must everywhere in
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  Speaker 1: our government, and otherwise, we can't trust these institutions to
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  Speaker 1: safeguard our children. We can't trust these institutions to safeguard
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  Speaker 1: our loved ones. They are not trustworthy places, and they
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  Speaker 1: have proven that time and time again. It also asked
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  Speaker 1: the Academy to more broadly reconsider the nature of the
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  Speaker 1: relationship between students and donors, echoing Farmer's complaint aka corroborating
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  Speaker 1: what Marie already has said that she felt pressure to
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  Speaker 1: ingratiate herself to Epstein. The signatories say that they too
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  Speaker 1: have felt instrumentalized in the school's fundraising efforts, feeling compelled
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  Speaker 1: for example, to produce work for collectors at the Tribeca
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  Speaker 1: Ball fundraiser when they could have devoted that time to
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  Speaker 1: their thesis projects. So we see the pattern has still
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  Speaker 1: continued since the nineties where they exploit their students for
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  Speaker 1: their own gain, even when their own students would rather
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  Speaker 1: be spending their time on their thesis. This is what
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  Speaker 1: this unit of this academy is all about. This is
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  Speaker 1: what they have always been about, and it's about time
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  Speaker 1: that the curtain gets opened on them and the world
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  Speaker 1: sees the scum baggery that occurs in places such as this.
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  Speaker 1: At the crux of the school's fundraising efforts is a
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  Speaker 1: reliance on students, faculty, and administration to ingratiate themselves to
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  Speaker 1: board members, collectors, and donors. The letter says, an attitude
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  Speaker 1: that puts undue pressure on students to perform and precarious
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  Speaker 1: or predatory situations. And that's for sure. Imagine being one
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  Speaker 1: of these art students and being pressed by your dean
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  Speaker 1: to sell your art at a super discounted price to
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  Speaker 1: people like Epstein and Maxwell because it benefits the art academy.
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  Speaker 1: It should be the other way around. The academy should
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  Speaker 1: be there to help these students with their career. Isn't
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  Speaker 1: that what these kids are paying for, these people paying
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  Speaker 1: for But instead they're exploited for the benefit of people
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  Speaker 1: like Foe Guggenheim. Yesterday, the board's executive committee responded with
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  Speaker 1: a letter of its own, acknowledging the negative impact of
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  Speaker 1: the investigation. Some of the conclusions in the resulting report
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  Speaker 1: blamed miss Farmer, and we regret they were included. The
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  Speaker 1: letter reads, we will diirect our law firm to strike
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  Speaker 1: from the final report any conclusion that could be perceived
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  Speaker 1: as victim blaming. Well that's all fine and well, but
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  Speaker 1: why did it take an outcry from your alumni and
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  Speaker 1: from the general public at large to make you do this.
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  Speaker 1: This should have been a decision that was made on
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  Speaker 1: your own. You shouldn't have to be dogged walked into
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  Speaker 1: doing the right thing. When you're one of these elite academies,
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  Speaker 1: you should just do.
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  Speaker 2: The right thing.
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  Speaker 1: How hard is it to be a decent human and
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  Speaker 1: do the right thing and not abuse children. I mean,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: life's pretty easy, right, Wake up in the morning, brush
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  Speaker 1: your teeth, put on deodorant, go to work or school,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may be, and don't abuse children and probably
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: say off of meth. But those are pretty easy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: things to do in life to lead a pretty respectable life,
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  Speaker 1: and somehow these scumbags involved in these sort of operations
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  Speaker 1: can't even manage to do that. The letter follows one
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  Speaker 1: that Guggenheim herself sent on August first, which was shown
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  Speaker 1: to artnet News, expressing similar sentiments. Let me be clear,
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  Speaker 1: I completely sympathize, sympathize with the pain that Maria and
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  Speaker 1: her family have gone through. Foe Guggenheim wrote, victims of
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  Speaker 1: sexual assault suffer lifelong trauma. My heart goes out to Maria,
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  Speaker 1: her sister, and to all survivors. I am deeply sorry
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  Speaker 1: if the report has caused further pain. If the report, lady,
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  Speaker 1: you facilitating Maria's abuse at the hands of Epstein and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Maxwell caused the pain, and you doubled down on it
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: by your lies.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And your deceit. So forgive me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: If I don't let up on the evisceration process that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: we're going through here, because I have to tell you,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Eileen Foe Guggenheim, you are one of the biggest dirt
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: bags in this whole entire story of facilitators. The board
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: letter noted that the Academy plans to take several concrete
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: steps to address the issues raised, including inviting the president
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of the Alumni Association of the New York Academy of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Art to join the board and hosting special meetings that
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: will be open to the broader community. It is also
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: forming a communications committee comprised of board members, students, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: administrative staff to facilitate ongoing dialogues to resolve any issues
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that may arise. So all these decades later, and all
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: of this pressure put on you, and now you're willing
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to change. Now you're going to make things better for
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the students. Somehow, I have a hard time believing you
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to address the culture surrounding donors student relations. The letter
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: adds that the administration has committed to prioritizing new strategies
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: for fundraising in addition to special events. Here's an idea.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Don't force your students to do anything. Okay, let them
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: do whatever they want. If they want to sell their
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: art to people who are involved with the academy, great.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: If they don't want to sell their art to them,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: then that's fine too. Forced compliance in any situation is
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: unacceptable in my opinion. The changes are intended the letter
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: says to bring more diversity and inclusion to the board
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and the school, and to ensure students never feel as
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: though they are required to interact with donors and always
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: feel safe. Well, that's all fine and well going forward,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't help the students, specifically Maria Farmer, who
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: were already stuck with lifetime full of horrible memories and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: abuse at the hands of people like Jeffrey Epstein. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: instead of doing the right thing when these allegations originally
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: were brought to light, you attempted to shame Maria Farmer
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: for daring to go against so called polite society, and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you calculated that that would be the end of it,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that nobody would stand up to you and call you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: out or challenge you, because that's what has happened for
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: so long. Well, those days are over. There is nobody
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: on this planet that is going to demean Maria Farmer
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: at this point and not catch a hot one here
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: on the Jeffrey Epstein Show, Maria has proven to be
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: not only an absolutely ironclad, credible witness, but Maria is
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: one of the nicest, sweetest, most loving people I have
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: ever met. And the fact that these morons even put
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: this letter out in the first place, attempting to shame her.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Tells us all we need to know about them, caned
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: apologies or not. If you'd like to contact me, you
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: can do that at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: That's Bobby c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: cap u Cci. All right, folks, the links that pertain
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to this episode, you know where they're at inside of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: that description box. I'll be back later on and we'll
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: do it all over again. What's up, everyone, and welcome
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to another appolepisode of the Epstein Chronicles. All the way
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Maria Farmer came out
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and told everybody what was going on at the New
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: York Academy of Art with Jeffrey Epstein and her experience.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: While at the time the New York Academy of Art
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and Eileen Guggenheim denied everything, said everything was just a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: big lie and that Maria was just telling falsehoods. Well,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it turns out that Maria was right once again, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: now the New York Academy of Art is going to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: give away all the money that was donated to them
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: by Jeffrey Epstein over the years, and they're going to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: start reviewing their policies about philanthropy and don her engagement. Now,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: remember Maria came out and said what she said all
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: these years ago, ninety five, ninety six put everybody on blast.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: And for all these years, the New York Academy of Art,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: they knew what Jeffrey Epstein was, They knew exactly the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: kind of combag he was, and they knew that he
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: had reach in their academy, and they didn't care. But
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: now now that people are paying attention and that this
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: story is breaking in a way that they never thought possible, well,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: now they're going to donate the money that Jeffrey Epstein
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: gave them over the years. My opinion, too little, too late.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: You should have addressed this when Maria brought it to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: your attention. This article was published by The New York
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Times and the headline New York Academy of Art gives
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: away money donated by Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: by Dion Searc The New York Academy of Art, where
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a former student was among the first to complain to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: authorities about the behavior of Jeffrey Epstein. Announced on Friday
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that it was giving away money that mister Epstein had
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: donated after new revelations about his involvement were made public. Yo,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: this isn't new. None of this is new. You just
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: want aren't paying attention? You were ignoring it. And the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: New York Academy of Art, they most certainly knew what
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: was up. There was a petition about the New York
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Academy of Art, so the whole entire we had no
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: idea thing. That's bs they knew. They didn't care, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that's because there wasn't an uproar. Then there were only
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: a few of us demanding justice. But now that everybody
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: has come around and they see exactly what this is. Now,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the New York Academy of Art wants to act. Now,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the New York Academy of Art wants to be responsible. Well,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: too late, because you already did what you did, and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you ignored what you ignored. Files recently released by the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Department of Justice showed that some of mister Epstein's ties
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to the Academy, which was co founded by Andy Warhol,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: were more extensive than previously known, with involvement years after
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: he had been investigated in Florida in connection with the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: sexual abuse of underage girls. It was all well known.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe if the New York Times was actually doing their
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: job over the years, they would have known this too.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: But instead they were busy causing division, causing hatred and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: making everybody hate each other. And when they were busy
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: doing that, these people were busy getting away with their crimes.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: The Academy said on Friday that it would review its
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: policies on philanthropy and the way it engages with donors.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: The disgraced financier Pedophile, who had served on the Academy's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: board in the early nineties, had been courted to sponsor
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a scholarship program, and he attended the Academy's fundraising events,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: including the Tribecal Ball and take Home a Nude Auction. Well,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: isn't that fitting? Take home a nude auction?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Say what? Now?
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you folks that this art world is rife
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: with criminality, and people like Epstein and the people around them,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: they used the high end art world to hide money.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Real estate used to be their main vehicle. Now it's art,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: not crypto art. Mark my words. Everybody knows that the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Picasso isn't ever going to lose any value, So why
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: not buy one if you have the dough to do it?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And then, of course you can hide it. You can
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: fudge numbers, and nobody's the wiser about how much you're worth,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: or how much you've spent, or most importantly, how much
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you should be taxed. That's the whole entire point of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: all of this. In a statement emailed to students and
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: alumni on Friday, the board express regret for the Academy's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: long association with mister Epstein. It also said the chair
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: of the Academy's board would retire in April, a month
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: earlier than expected. She should have been out a long
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: time ago. Eileen Guggenheim, according to Maria, led her directly
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: into the belly of the beast, and then all these
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: years she was able to just keep going. How many
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: other girls were led to the belly of the beast,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: That's certainly a question that should be asked. No, if
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: she was so comfortable doing it with Maria, do you
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: really think Maria was the only one? I highly doubt it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Mister Epstein was jailed for thirteen months for state prostitution crimes,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and was arrested again in twenty nineteen on federal charges
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: accusing him in trafficking dozens of girls, some as young
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: as fourteen, and engage in sex acts with him. His
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen death in jail was ruled a suicide. Oh
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: well in that case, pack it all up, folks. Nothing
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: to see here. The government told us what happened? What
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you don't believe them?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: What are you?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Some kind of panikin? The academy should not have accepted
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: contributions from him, allowing him to attend academy events, or
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: permitted him to have any connection to programs involving students
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: or other community members after his criminal conduct had become known,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the board said in its email, which admitted to serious
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: failures in judge and governance. If I was Maria, I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: would think about suing the New York Academy of Art,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: especially with them admitting it right here. We were negligent. Okay, cool,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Now you owe me a bag? Pretty simple. The school
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: plans to give sixty five nine hundred dollars to an
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: organization that helps traffic girls. The academy had already given
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: away thirty thousand that mister Epstein had donated, well, we'll
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: just keep this other sixty five nine, and we'll have
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that on the stash. Nobody knows about that, so we
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: don't have to report it and we don't have to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: donate it. That was the thinking, right, or else they
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: would have donated all of it right away. But instead
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: they gave away thirty g's and they were like, we
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: gave away the money Epstein gave us while pocketing sixty
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: five nine. Typical and please make no mistake. The New
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: York Academy of Art doesn't give a shit about the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: girls who were abused. They care that they've been outed,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: just like the rest of these bombs. The New York
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Academy of Art opened in nineteen eighty two as an
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: anti abstractionist school and at teaching figurative drawing when traditional
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: methods had fallen out of favor. It attracted eccentrix. A
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: pet Boa constrictor was kept in one office and scandal
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a fiscal controller once embezzled one hundred and seventy five
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and it was known for elaborate fundraising parties,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: where performances sometimes began after the shattering of a wineglass.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: It's galleys draw celebrities and socialites. Yeah, well birds of
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a feather and all right. And it makes me wonder
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: if Glane thought that this art Academy was just another
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: new bile hunting ground. Remember that was what she called it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I have to go find some new bials for Epstein.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: So my guess is she probably used the New York
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Academy of Art as one of those destinations. In nineteen
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: ninety three, Maria Farmer moved to New York to attend
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the Academy and has said she first met mister Epstein
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: at a gallery thesis art show for her graduation. She said,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the dean of the Academy at the time, Eileen Guggenheim,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: introduced her to mister Ebstein and his longtime partner, You
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: mean co conspirator, right, fellow scumbag, fellow child abuse her
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and bipuedal serpent. That's what you mean, Glenne Maxwell, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: told her to sell them one of her paintings at
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: a discount. Miss Guggenheim has said she did not recall
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: such an interaction, not that it didn't happen, right, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: do not recall those words mean something. It gives you
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: an out, oh I don't recall. So later on down
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the road, if it's proven that you did meet her
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: or this did go down, you can say, oh, well,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember at the time. Just another way for
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: people to be cute with their words. Ms Farmer, when
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: she was in her twenties, went on to work for
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: mister Ebstein, acquiring art on his behalf and later managing
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the entrance to a townhouse that he was renovating. She
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: said that he and miss Maxwell assaulted her while she
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: was staying with them at an state in Ohio. Soon
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: after returning to New York in nineteen ninety six, Miss
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Farmer contacted the police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: No action was taken by authorities at the time. And
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: that's another big problem, right because we know that that's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: true now we have the contemporaneous documentation to back it up.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So Maria was telling the truth about contacting the FBI
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: and telling them about Epstein and Maxwell. So why would
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: she be lying about this again? It doesn't make sense.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: So as far as I'm concerned, it's the New York
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Academy of Art that's doing the lying, and Maria has
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: was and is telling the truth. She has said that
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: she also talked about the encounter with Miss Guggenheim, who
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: is now the chair of the Academy's board. Miss Farmer
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: has said that Miss Guggenheim did not appear to take
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: her concern seriously. Miss Guggenheim told The New York Times
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen that the details Miss Farmer shared mister
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Epstein did not rise to a level that would require intervention.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Oh no, not at all, especially considering he's paying you
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a ton of money.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Rite.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Miss Guggenheim got to make sure that the sacred cash
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: cow is doing all right. Miss Guggenheim did not immediately
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: respond on Friday to a request for comment. A lawyer
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: for Miss Farmer the client comment. Alumni of the Academy
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty circulated a petition calling for more safety
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for students. The academy commissioned an internal investigation by a
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: law firm, which interviewed Miss Guggenheim and others. Miss Farmer
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: did not cooperate with the investigation. The firm noted, yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: no shit, they were trying a railroader. That's why if
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you were abused and then ignored, literally for decades, would
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you then agree to some kind of investigation years later,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: just to make them look good. I wouldn't either, so
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: good for Maria. According to a copy of the investigation,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Mario Farmer had told Miss Guggenheim the creepiest thing happened
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: with mister Epstein. She explained how mister Epstein and Miss
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Baxwell had called her into their bedroom and asked her
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to join them in bed, but that Miss Farmer freaked
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: out and left. Don't put yourself in those kinds of situations,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Miss Guggenheim told Miss Farmer, according to the report, which
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: said Miss Farmer did not mention she was touched or assaulted.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Don't put yourself in those kinds of situations. Huh, why
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: are you wearing that dress? You shouldn't go out dressed
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: like that. You're asking for it? Is that what Miss
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Guggenheim's saying here. The law firm called Walden mocked and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: heron at the time the report was filed, noted in
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the report that it had previously represented Miss Guggenheim before
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: investigating her. Of course, why not.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: This is what they do.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: They go and get these friendly quote unquote outside external
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: sources to do the investigation. But it's really just their friends.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: The law firm found no evidence that Miss Guggenheim knew
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: about any sexual abuse of Miss Farmer, according to the investigation.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, the Academy issued an apology to Miss
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Farmer and announced new safeguards for students. All kinds of bs.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: But you're apologizing, that's interesting. Anastasia Tarasenko, who graduated from
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the Academy in twenty seventeen, has been combing through Justice
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Department filings about mister Epstein and was troubled by new
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: revelations that show Miss Guggenheim engage with mister Ebstein after
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: his misdeeds in Florida were known. Well, yeah, they didn't care.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: How many times do you have to see it now?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: They knew exactly what this dude was. They just didn't
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: care because he was greasing the wheels. He was given
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: them money, you know, bringing people to their events, whatever
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it might be. Why should they care about some vulnerable
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: girl who's being abused by their buddy. Why would they
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: care about that? Fundraising is a huge part of keeping
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: that school alive. Miss Tarasenko said, My concern comes from
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a place of love for the school. I want to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: protect the space and protect the students. Emails from Justice
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Department filings indicate that Miss Guggenheim was interviewed by the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: FBI about Miss Farmer's encounter with mister Epstein in two
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Miss Guggenheim told agents that Miss Farmer
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: returned from Ohio very upset and that she did not
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: know the details, but believe Miss Farmer was hurt, possibly
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: by a verbal suggestion made by Epstein. Now everything we
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: know about Epstein, do you think it was a verbal
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: suggestion or do you think that he actually assaulted Maria.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: In later years, mister Epstein attended the Academy's Tribeca Ball
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: toward the studios and purchased artwork. It was incredibly wonderful
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: of you to come back, Miss Guggenheim, wrote in a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: twenty twelve email addressed to mister Ebstein and sent through
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: his personal assistant. She added, I just want you to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: know how much Russ and I and the whole school
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: appreciate your involvement, because he was piecing them all off.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: And it's a whole different level of scummy when you're
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: in charge of the school and you put Jeffrey Epstein
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: before the students a whole lass, different level of scum.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Miss Guggenheim's husband, Russell Colgate Wilkinson, is a former chair
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of the Academy's board. In twenty thirteen, she invited mister
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Epstein to sponsor a portrait scholarship the File Show, and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: in March of the following year, mister Epstein's assistant Emaildam
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to assure him that he was on the top of
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the waiting list for the sold out Tribeca Ball, writing
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: that Eileen Guggenheim will do everything she can to get
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you a table. Sounds like somebody that doesn't know him. Huh.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I don't really know this guy, but let's get him
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a table. Six days later, mister Epstein's assistant wrote to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: him to say that a table had been secured by
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Miss Guggenheim. Eileen is very happy and says she looks
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing you, the assistant, Leslie Groff, wrote. In
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Friday's email announcing changes at the Academy, The board said
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it would create an ethics committee to review policy, including
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: those at governed Philanthropy and donor engagement. The email also
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: said that Miss Guggenheim would be stepping down from the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: board a month earlier than planned. Official said that her
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: resignation for this year had been in the works since
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: last May. The Academy's website notes that she and her
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: husband will be honored next month at the Tribeca Ball.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: They don't care. They'll give them all these honors and
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: all this other stuff and they'll just step down and
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: they'll move on and keep living their lives. Meanwhile, the
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: people that were abused, people like Maria, have to live
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: with this shit every day. And the saddest part is
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: all of this was known, and now they're trying to
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: act like, you know, it's a big revelation. It's not.
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  Speaker 1: They ignored it, and now that all of you are
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  Speaker 1: so fired up, they're being forced to deal with it
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  Speaker 1: and to try and drown out some of the criticism,
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  Speaker 1: some of the noise. Aileen Guggenheim's gonna step down. But
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  Speaker 1: the truth is it's not just Eileen Guggenheim. It's the
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  Speaker 1: whole facility. All the trustees know what's up. The whole
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  Speaker 1: board knows what's up, and they all knew what Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was And the truth is they didn't care because for them,
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  Speaker 1: it's always profits over people. All the information that goes
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