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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | The Mark Kelly Case · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: Rich Tomorrow It is Tuesday, rich on Tech every Saturday
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  Speaker 1: tv and Happy Tuesday, Rich, Good.
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  Speaker 3: Morning, Happy Tuesday to you. I'm surprised you didn't say
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  Speaker 3: taco Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: I generally do say taco Tuesday. By the way, I
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  Speaker 2: just missed out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah today, it's only eighty percent of the time that
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying taco Tuesday. So I humbly apologize that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say it. Starting with this segment, Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff to cover, and hope we
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  Speaker 1: get to as many of them as we can.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start. The most controversial gadget you have ever tested.
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  Speaker 3: This one's wild. This is called b It's a fifty
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  Speaker 3: dollars wristband, and it basically listens to your day and
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  Speaker 3: captures that audio, transcribes it, and uses AI to come
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  Speaker 3: up with insights, to come up with patterns, to come
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  Speaker 3: up with facts about you, to do lists, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff. It's kind of like a if
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  Speaker 3: you had a personal assistant that walked around with you
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  Speaker 3: all day and just took notes and the app but
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  Speaker 3: it's all there, yeah analyzes, so it's wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So if you so, if you're you get religion during
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  Speaker 1: the day in the evening and you're screaming oh God,
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  Speaker 1: oh God at the top of your lungs, uh, that
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  Speaker 1: will be analyzed, correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it will be. Yeah, you should maybe take this
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  Speaker 3: thing off if if you're you're practicing your religion. It's
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  Speaker 3: called b by the way, and this is a company.
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  Speaker 2: It was a startup.
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  Speaker 3: Amazon bought them shortly after they were created, so now
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  Speaker 3: it's owned by Amazon. They call it an ambient AI
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  Speaker 3: computing band. So it looks like a Fitbit basically, it's
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  Speaker 3: really small. I wore it for a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: and uh, you know it's kind of and you're the
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  Speaker 3: lawyer here, but you know it's listening. So a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people have emailed me and said, Rich, this is
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  Speaker 3: legal in California. You can't. It's a two party consense state.
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  Speaker 3: Amazon says that this is actually not recording. It's it's
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  Speaker 3: capturing whatever that like, the audio is not saved, so
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  Speaker 3: it's I just found it really fascinating. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if I want to wear this thing long term because
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  Speaker 3: it does capture everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an interesting legal issue. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Is it for sale?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Is it out there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? It's for sales. Fifty bucks the battery last two
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  Speaker 3: all right?
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  Speaker 2: Us said, that's I mean that's not very much money.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's keep on going there's a trial and
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  Speaker 1: we talked about this before, but it's going on right
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  Speaker 1: now in Los Angeles, and this is huge, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's not being covered enough. And that is the addiction
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  Speaker 1: trial where all the major platforms basically are being sued
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  Speaker 1: because kids are addicted and they're planning it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're programming their platforms. So what's going on with that?
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  Speaker 3: Ye? Right, Well, that's the question they're trying to figure
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  Speaker 3: out in the court of law here in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: So the defendants right now are Meta, which owns Facebook
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  Speaker 3: and Instagram, and then Google's YouTube which a lot of
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  Speaker 3: kids watch what's called YouTube shorts, that's their version of TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: TikTok and Snap actually already settled right before the trial started,
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  Speaker 3: so we don't know what they settled for, how much
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  Speaker 3: they settle. But the plaintiff here is a twenty year
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  Speaker 3: old woman who says she became addicted to these platforms
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  Speaker 3: as a teenager. She developed anxiety depression, body dysmorphia, and
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  Speaker 3: her lawyers say that it was all because these apps
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  Speaker 3: are designed to keep you scrolling. They use all kinds
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  Speaker 3: of hacks and tricks to just get capture attention. And
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  Speaker 3: never let it go. Meanwhile, YouTube and Meta deny all
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  Speaker 3: of this, of course, as they would as they are
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  Speaker 3: big companies. They say that no, it's not their apps
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  Speaker 3: that caused all these things for her, it's her family
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  Speaker 3: trauma that caused it all. And so now this is
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  Speaker 3: the first big test case. And if this woman wins
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  Speaker 3: basically as I understand it, there would it would open
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  Speaker 3: the floodgates for thousands of other similar cases across the US,
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  Speaker 3: which might trigger, you know, some sort of class action
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  Speaker 3: or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine this would be a class action lawsuit.
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  Speaker 1: It couldn't even begin to think that it would not be.
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  Speaker 1: And the as you said, the settlement of those two
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  Speaker 1: big ones, and they never talk about the amount of
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  Speaker 1: money that settled, or admitting liability or any of it.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be in the billions and billions of
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  Speaker 1: dollars that the settlement has already happened. It almost reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of the big tobacco That settlement was I think
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  Speaker 1: over one hundred billion dollars, and the pharma industry with
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  Speaker 1: fall with the Purdue leading the leading the list of defendants,
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  Speaker 1: and that went for set I don't even know how much.
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  Speaker 2: It went for one hundred and something billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's and the number of plaintiffs as astronomical
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  Speaker 1: as you said, this is going to just explode in
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  Speaker 1: terms of these lawsuits to the point where these companies
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  Speaker 1: are going to take a really good hit, a big hit,
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  Speaker 1: and they not.
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  Speaker 3: Just a hit, but yeah, they got to they got
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  Speaker 3: to think about, you know, their actions in the future.
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  Speaker 3: But you know how they design these apps, so how
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  Speaker 3: you know, are they addictive? Do they are they a
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  Speaker 3: little mini slot machine in your pocket? You know? Are
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  Speaker 3: they are they targeting kids? And I think Bill, you
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  Speaker 3: can comment on this more. I think it really comes
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  Speaker 3: down to the jury here is is there I assume
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  Speaker 3: there's a jury in this case, but it comes down
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  Speaker 3: to you know, if anyone has kids and they've seen
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  Speaker 3: the effect that these apps and services have on their children,
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  Speaker 3: or their grandkids or any kids, or their teacher, they
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  Speaker 3: know that they do hook kids in and these kids
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  Speaker 3: cannot escape it. Some adults can't escape it. So I
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  Speaker 3: think that that is the big question here is you know,
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  Speaker 3: who in the world is going to say that these
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  Speaker 3: apps are not designed to keep you going forever until
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  Speaker 3: your eyeballs fall out of your head.
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  Speaker 1: Like I say, by the way, wait just a personal note,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you can make the prediction
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  Speaker 1: be you being a new person. Do you believe that
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  Speaker 1: those those apps are designed to grab kids?
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  Speaker 3: There's not even a doubt in my mind. Now is
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  Speaker 3: it written on paper bill like in the emails between
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  Speaker 3: Zuckerberg and you know, his staff saying hey make this
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  Speaker 3: more addictive?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not.
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  Speaker 3: But if you don't think that these companies are sitting
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  Speaker 3: there trying to figure out a way to make these
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  Speaker 3: apps stickier than the other one, it's just there's no
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  Speaker 3: number one. From a business standpoint, that's what you want.
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  Speaker 3: They're not sitting here saying how can we protect kids?
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  Speaker 3: They only protect kids when the law tells them they
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  Speaker 3: have to, or they're worried about the law telling them
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  Speaker 3: they have to.
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  Speaker 1: Right Rich, chat GPT where you go to is now
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  Speaker 1: well you may start seeing ads saying here is the question. Normally,
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  Speaker 1: don't they make enough money simply by data mining selling
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  Speaker 1: information about people that come in to chat GPT?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Is it ever enough money? Or does everything have to
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  Speaker 1: go to ads?
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  Speaker 2: Also?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, everything has to go to ads? Because CHATCHYBT at
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  Speaker 3: this point is not data mining. They're not selling the
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  Speaker 3: information they gather so far. They primarily make their money
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  Speaker 3: right now through their API, which means big companies license
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  Speaker 3: their their information, you know, and their and their their
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  Speaker 3: AI in general. And then of course the users that
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  Speaker 3: pay a lot of people pay big bucks to access
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  Speaker 3: chatchybt and so that's been the primary way. But here's
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  Speaker 3: the thing. They know that this is expensive. This is
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  Speaker 3: not a I mean, technically open ai I think is
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  Speaker 3: still a nonprofit. But they're you know, they're in it
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  Speaker 3: for the investors, which have put a lot of money
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  Speaker 3: into open ai. So they need to turn a profit
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  Speaker 3: and the way to do that is to squeeze the
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  Speaker 3: people that are using this for free. So if you
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  Speaker 3: are on chat gybt for free, at this point, you
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  Speaker 3: may start to see ads underneath your I call them
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  Speaker 3: search results, but I guess it's just your answers on
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  Speaker 3: chat gbt. So this is rolling out starting today. If
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  Speaker 3: you are on a free plan, if you're on the
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  Speaker 3: plan where you're paying eight dollars a month with which
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  Speaker 3: they just introduced, you're also going to pay or you're
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  Speaker 3: also going to see ads. So bottom line, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to start to see ads CHATTYBT is doing it in
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  Speaker 3: a way bill where they say it's going to be private.
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  Speaker 3: They're not sharing your data with the advertisers, they're not
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  Speaker 3: sharing your chats with the advertisers, and they're keeping everything
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  Speaker 3: in a separate kind of section of the app. But
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  Speaker 3: you'll see it'll say sponsored.
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  Speaker 2: At what time?
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  Speaker 1: Or in your opinion, do you think that chat gpt
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  Speaker 1: is going to not only sell ads, have ads, but
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  Speaker 1: also sell to the data mining organizations and to license
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  Speaker 1: itself to the majors.
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  Speaker 2: I hit all three of them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, here's the deal. We know
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  Speaker 3: that people are using these AI chatbots for everything. There
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  Speaker 3: is a treasure trove of information about trends, what people
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  Speaker 3: are interested in, what people are looking at, what are
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  Speaker 3: they researching, and that includes products, services, ailments, whatever you
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  Speaker 3: can imagine. So the data that they are sitting on
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  Speaker 3: is huge. It is It is the new kind of
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  Speaker 3: you know, the new thought system of America. Like everything
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  Speaker 3: that's that we're thinking is inside CHATCHBT. It used to
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  Speaker 3: be Google and it still is to a certain extent.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously people are still using that, but you know they
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  Speaker 3: have the ability to monetize that in various ways. I
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  Speaker 3: think it depends on this company and the way that
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  Speaker 3: they want to respect the people that are using it
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  Speaker 3: to decide how do they want to proceed, because it
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  Speaker 3: only takes a small misstep for them to go down
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  Speaker 3: the lines of a Facebook or a Meta where people
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  Speaker 3: don't trust them anymore. So you have to be very,
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  Speaker 3: very careful. And right now they're still building their business,
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  Speaker 3: so they're going to tread carefully, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The last one, Weaimo is admitting that humans sometimes take over.
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  Speaker 2: You go, wait a minute, those Weimo cars, there's nobody
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  Speaker 2: in them to drive. How does that work? Okay?
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  Speaker 3: This I thought was wild because we know that Weimo
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  Speaker 3: says their software they call it the most experienced driver
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  Speaker 3: in the world. They've logged many, many millions of miles autonomously.
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  Speaker 3: But they just admitted in a Senate hearing that some
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  Speaker 3: of it's robotaxis actually phone a friend when they need help,
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  Speaker 3: and the friend is in the Philippines. These are workers
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  Speaker 3: that are not necessarily driving the cars, but they basically
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  Speaker 3: help the cars figure out when they run into an
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  Speaker 3: odd situation like a construction zone or like a traffic pattern,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what happens. So the operator looked through the
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  Speaker 3: car's sensors and video feeds and tell it how to
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  Speaker 3: do it. So it's kind of interesting because we always
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  Speaker 3: thought that weimo's were fully autonomous. Now we're learning through
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  Speaker 3: this Senate hearing that they may not be.
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  Speaker 2: Wow and the Philippines do those operators in the Philippines
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  Speaker 2: sing karaoke while they're doing this.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing, but the reality is
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  Speaker 3: the senators were wondering about the distance between the car
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  Speaker 3: and the operator because clearly there's not much latency if
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  Speaker 3: they can be operating from remote of a distance that long.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, there is a car service in Las
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  Speaker 3: Vegas called vey Vay, and what they do is they
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  Speaker 3: make no bones about it. They're driving their cars remotely.
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  Speaker 3: And so Bill, instead of getting an Uber, you would,
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  Speaker 3: let's say you need a rental car or a ride somewhere. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: they will drive this car autonomously to your house, pick
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  Speaker 3: you up, drive you to wherever you need to go,
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  Speaker 3: and then pick up the next person. And the person
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  Speaker 3: that's driving this car is remotely driving. So imagine your
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  Speaker 3: Uber driver is sitting in an office building with a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of computer monitors and a steering wheel in front
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  Speaker 3: of them.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and that's the company called Oivy. Do I have
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  Speaker 2: that right.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just Vey, but I think it was
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  Speaker 3: inspired by oive So you might be saying that when
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  Speaker 3: you're in the car.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, rich we'll talk again next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: This weekend eleven am to two pm, rich On.
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  Speaker 1: Tech the segment KTLA every morning Instagram at rich on
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  Speaker 1: Tech website, rich on Tech dot TV.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll catch you next week.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Bill.
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  Speaker 2: All right, WAMO.
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  Speaker 1: Drivers remote drivers in the Philippines.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, that's news to me. And I'll bet you that
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  Speaker 2: they sing.
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  Speaker 1: Plings nothing more than plings.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we're done, guys. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The big story, or one of the big stories that
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  Speaker 1: we're following, is the Mark Kelly trial that is going on.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, of course, the US Senator from Arizona, former
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  Speaker 1: fighter pilot, former astronaut, now a US Senator, got on
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  Speaker 1: the wrong side of Pete.
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  Speaker 2: Hegseth our defense Secretary of Defense.
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  Speaker 1: He calls himself Secretary of War because that's what the President,
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  Speaker 1: of course has asked for.
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  Speaker 2: And he is, needless to say, an a a acolyte
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  Speaker 2: of the first order.
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  Speaker 1: If the President says it it will happen no matter
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  Speaker 1: what jump off a bridge, it happens.
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  Speaker 2: A matter of fact, he's changing his spittle name to Lemming.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's the way to describe a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: president's followers. Anyway, you know the story of Kelly and
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  Speaker 1: five members of Congress who were all in the military,
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  Speaker 1: and they came out with that video saying to the
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  Speaker 1: military people, saying to soldiers, not only do should you
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  Speaker 1: not follow illegal orders and of course referring to Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump and his various orders, but you cannot follow illegal orders.
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  Speaker 2: Well, HeiG Seth immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Went nuts, of course, and is trying to bring Kelly
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  Speaker 1: to trial. Now, originally it was going to be a
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  Speaker 1: military trial, a court martial, which, by the way, the
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense War can do simply argue that this
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  Speaker 1: is conduct donebecoming and come in with a military trial
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  Speaker 1: to demote him. And this is the punishment, is to
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  Speaker 1: demote Kelly, which means not only his rank is demoted,
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  Speaker 1: but also his retirement pay gets reduced. That's the big one.
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  Speaker 1: That's where you get hit. And originally it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a tribunal, but it turned out that there
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  Speaker 1: was no chance he was going to win the tribunal
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  Speaker 1: because this is the First Amendment issue. Kelly is retired,
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  Speaker 1: He's no longer in the military. There's never been a
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  Speaker 1: case where a military official or a military person was
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  Speaker 1: brought up to a court martial under these circumstances, and
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  Speaker 1: the general consensus was the Hexas was not going to
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  Speaker 1: win this one.
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  Speaker 2: So instead he.
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  Speaker 1: Moves into an administrative move, which he is allowed to do,
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  Speaker 1: and administratively he is saying, I now can move Kelly
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  Speaker 1: into that position and reduce his pay it's retirement pay,
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  Speaker 1: and reduce his rank. Well, there's a lawsuit.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly filed a lawsuit saying, wait a minute, this is
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  Speaker 1: only for political retribution.
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  Speaker 2: That's all it is.
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  Speaker 1: I was simply exercising my First Amendment rights as an
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  Speaker 1: ex soldier.
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  Speaker 2: Why is he liable?
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  Speaker 1: And the other ones are not because he is still
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  Speaker 1: a reservist and so therefore he is under the control
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  Speaker 1: of the Secretary of Defense. The other five are they're
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  Speaker 1: done no retirement, No, they're done, or if they do
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  Speaker 1: have a retirement, they're finished. Not reservists, no longer under
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  Speaker 1: the auspices of the Defense Department. So it's turns out
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  Speaker 1: that Kelly is suing it. I hope he wins, because
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  Speaker 1: heg Seth has said that the reason they're going after
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  Speaker 1: Kelly is because he's a seditionist, because he spoke against
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  Speaker 1: the United States. Donald Trump called him a straight out trader,
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  Speaker 1: and he should be executed for what he said, simply saying,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, this came right out of the Uniform
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  Speaker 1: Military Code. It's right there. The law that controls the
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  Speaker 1: military says that specifically you cannot follow in illegal order.
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  Speaker 1: And what these five congress people and Kelly the Senator
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  Speaker 1: simply parroted what the Code of Military Conduct says. And if, however,
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  Speaker 1: if part of that, if you are saying, if you're
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  Speaker 1: making a statement that so somehow is anti Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and this is no shock, you're a trader. You're a seditionist.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'll tell you who is not a seditionist. Who
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  Speaker 1: is not a trader? January sixth, people that overran the Capitol,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they were patriots.
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  Speaker 2: It was a peaceful demonstration. Exactly.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: However, if you say you cannot follow a military order
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  Speaker 1: that is illegal, you are a trader to the United States.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: You are a seditionist. And Hegseth just wants to put
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: him in prison. Well, actually, at this point, Hegseth just
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: wants to remove his retirement pay or reduce it and
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: knock him down in rank. It's the president that's going
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to the extent that he should be executed.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's crazy. So is he moving forward? Yeah?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And here is the issue that the court says, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I think there's two sides to this, or there's two issues.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Issue Number one is it's clearly retribution. They've said it
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: on literal literally on the table they put it, this
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: is retribution because you were anti President Trump. At the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: same time, it's an administrative decision by the Defense Department,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and the Court gives administrative decisions wide latitude administrative agencies,
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  Speaker 1: of which the Defense Department is an administrative agency under
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the purview of the president. So is the Court going
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to say, we are not going to get in the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: way of Hegseth's decision could be And if it goes
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: up to the Supreme Court incidentally, which a very well might,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I think the Supreme Court is going to give it
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to the administration because they've given the administration ninety percent
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: of what they've asked for, expanding the powers of the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: executive so it's it's pretty depressing stuff. As far as
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  Speaker 1: I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 2: I just I'm having a hard time with all of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Now, California, as you know, we have a super
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  Speaker 1: legislature that is all Democrats. I don't know if you've
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: ever heard about Will Rogers, who was the great comedian
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and commentator. When Will Rogers died, on his tombstone, you
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: will read, I never met a man I didn't like.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: California legislators to a person their tombstone will read I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: never met a.
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  Speaker 2: Tax I didn't like.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's happening now because we're not tax enough.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that that we
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: don't have enough money for the homeless situation, for medical
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and especially now because of what the President has done
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: in terms of yanking a lot of social programs. California,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: which provides huge amounts of social programs, we don't have
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the money. So Senator Bernie Sanders and California legislators have
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: come up with a great idea, and that is, let's
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: charge a one time five percent tax on the assets
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of all California billionaires. And that's essential to prevent millions
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: of the state's most vulnerable residents from losing access to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: healthcare for the most part because of federal funding. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: then opponents are saying, wait a minute, that means wealthy
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: entrepreneurs are going to flee the state and we're done.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, mister liberal.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Is on the side of no. He does not want
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to charge billionaires as five percent or tax them. I think, well, okay,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it makes a lot of sense because, well,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you can only tax people to a certain extent. Is
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: there a limit that you can tax people? Bernie Sanders,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: also known as his nickname in high school was Karl
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Marx When he was asked, is there a limit to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the amount of taxes that can be charged that can
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: be levied? And asked what is that limit? And he said,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I'll tell you
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: when I see it. It's like Justice Potter of the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court, when asked to define pornography in one of
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: his cases, says, I can't define pornography, but I'll tell
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you when I see it. And so the legislature as
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, is not doing this because this
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: is so crazy. So they're bringing it up to the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: November elections with a proposition, and they need six hundred
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand votes, which means they have to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: actually have seven eight hundred thousand people actually register because
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a huge number are ineligible because they put a wrong address,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: or they put a wrong initial, they put a wrong period.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: They'll have to be exact, and we'll see what the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: people of California are going to say. If I had
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to guess, I would say the people of California are
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: going to vote yes to this because it's billionaires, because
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: billionaires shouldn't have that much money. They just shouldn't. You
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: got to share it with the rest of us. It's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: a really redistribution of wealth more than anything else, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it's everything the United States is not about.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Right it is.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It's basically an anti capitalistic system. Now it's a one
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: time right five percent levee. Does anybody believe it's a.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: One time levee?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Not a chance, because every law we have ever passed
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that has a sunset clause where its sunsets, I mean
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it ends at a certain given time and it involves taxation.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It somehow becomes permanent. It's just permanent.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: So we'll see that probably gonna make the ballot and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens when in November.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be an interesting mid term, real interesting. We're done, guys.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Gary and Shannon are up next this afternoon at at
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: four o'clock. Made your announcement here at KFI are Grand Puba,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the Grand Vizier Imperial Wizard of KFI. Paul Corvino is
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: going to make that announcement on I think the Conway Show,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and John is going to be there to help with
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the announcement. I won't God, why is it we're always
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: left out of everything?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Guys?
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: You know, we just we're not We're not involved. They
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: just don't care about us. Well, we wake up, we
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: go to work. Here's the philosophy of die, you wake up,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: philosophy of life. You wake up, you go to work,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you retire, then you die. Okay, that's why.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: You say you're never retiring. Huh yeah, pretty much? Yeah?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And also what am I gonna do? I have no friends,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I hate my family, I don't want to be any place. Hey,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and I wake up the air and I wake up early?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: What die on the air? I mean not like you
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: do every day? Oh man?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: No, I know, I know if I'm ever going to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: take a swan dive off a parking structure, man, I'm
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: going to have a mic, a little Lavalier Mike attached
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to my caller, and I will be announcing it in advance.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: You tell me what the ratings are going to be like, Okay,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: We're done.
• 25:29
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• 25:35
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• 25:37
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• 25:41
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• 25:44
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• 25:45
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