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Chris Nilan Drops the Gloves: Vegas Takes Game 1, Werenski Wins the Norris and Canucks Hire Malhotra. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: It is indeed.
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  Speaker 1: Episode number eighty five of NHL Unscripted. Another Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 1: Finals from Urkan Demurz, special guest Atompson along for the
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  Speaker 1: ride and big news. By the way, you get a
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  Speaker 1: hand of flowers to our own, Jason de Murz, I'll
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  Speaker 1: explain why in a little blit. Plus our special guest
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  Speaker 1: is Chris nilet Knuckles, a former HAVE great and tough
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  Speaker 1: guy with stories about Whitey Bulger.
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  Speaker 2: What yeah that depotted.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into all that one I I you not
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  Speaker 1: a quol And that's a perfect interruption by Jason Demurs
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  Speaker 1: because how about the chemistry exhibited an NHL Network on
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  Speaker 1: media Day myself and Jason Demurz. All I said was
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  Speaker 1: as Jon Favreau and Vince von Win's famously said, Vegas, Baby, Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: I give a one sentence line, which gave gg enough
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  Speaker 1: time to say their money.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even know it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's so money, sweet honey, baby, sweet honey babies.
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  Speaker 1: JD's probably gonna be off to Vegas soon. Nate and
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  Speaker 1: I believe are just enjoying the Stanley Cup Final from
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  Speaker 1: the comfort of.
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  Speaker 2: Our homes, which will be fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as the game home was concerned, Fellas,
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  Speaker 1: this was about as as setting as it gets. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy. Like in baseball, there's
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  Speaker 1: certain people like a pitcher's duel. I'm like, come on,
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  Speaker 1: like who wants to watch two to one? Similarly in hockey,
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  Speaker 1: like I want to see goals. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see bad goals anything the entire series, to be clear,
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  Speaker 1: But if you give me an exciting, back and forth
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  Speaker 1: game like that Eiler scores twenty five seconds into the
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  Speaker 1: game Hurricane to take a two to nothing lead, and
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  Speaker 1: then Vegas comes roaring back and JD's boy Tomash Hurtle
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  Speaker 1: scoring with three twenty four left in regulation. I mean, JD,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I want from a game. One back
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  Speaker 1: and forth, exciting hockey and Vegas wins.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Carolina did exactly what they're supposed to do.
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  Speaker 3: They came out and they used the fan base that
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  Speaker 3: third line is gonna be a matchup nightmare. Like we said,
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  Speaker 3: who's gonna take down the stall line? They didn't really
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  Speaker 3: find anybody that could because that stall line was great.
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  Speaker 3: But the fear that we had with the first line
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  Speaker 3: of Ajo and Sveechnakov not producing was kind of the difference,
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  Speaker 3: and they gave up one, and you know that it
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  Speaker 3: ended up being that bottom six that kind of was
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  Speaker 3: this weird battle. I don't want to say bottom six
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  Speaker 3: because Carlson that's their second line, but it was the
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  Speaker 3: Carlson line in the hurdle line that just outmatched Aho.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's gonna be interesting. I think there were
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  Speaker 3: some mistakes, some turnovers both ways, but I mean there
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  Speaker 3: was a beautiful miked up moment where they're down two
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  Speaker 3: nothing and John Tortorella, they had him on my he
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  Speaker 3: was miked up and he's going stick to our game,
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  Speaker 3: be patient. We can't go east west because they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: kill us. So they've figured out something. They understand that
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  Speaker 3: they have to allow Carolina to come to them and CounterPunch,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought once they did that, they settled in
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  Speaker 3: and Carolina kind of shot themselves in a foot in
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  Speaker 3: the foot and maybe this is just the way they're
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  Speaker 3: going to start the last two rounds. Is kind of
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  Speaker 3: giving up one where Freddy's a little shaky, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is uh, this is gonna be a great matchup
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  Speaker 3: as advertised. I'm excited to see the adjustments into game two.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that my thoughts was that this is it's
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  Speaker 3: a game of matchups here in the series.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of matchups, Nate Rob Brindemore was not shy when
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  Speaker 1: asked Affords about his top one and he said, quote,
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  Speaker 1: they had one good shift there in the third. You
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  Speaker 1: saw the opportunity by Seth Jarvis. Thatsha otherwise because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they've got a step up.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't blast him. I think it could have been
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  Speaker 2: a lot harsher.
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  Speaker 1: But at JD's point, Hurricanes are not winning unless that
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  Speaker 1: top line plays immeasurably better.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's right, and I think moving forward for Carolina,
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  Speaker 4: like that's a key key part of the series for Carolina,
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  Speaker 4: moving for like, aho line has to be really good.
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  Speaker 4: They have to be better for Carolina to get over
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  Speaker 4: the hump against Vegas, because you saw the depth come
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  Speaker 4: on display last night for Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: And I think on.
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  Speaker 4: Top of that, their power play like special teams for
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  Speaker 4: them could be a difference maker for them against Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: Just because we saw Vegas like they were, they looked
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  Speaker 4: dangerous last night. I know they didn't score in the
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  Speaker 4: power play, but the power play looked dangerous. They got
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  Speaker 4: momentum from it, and I think for Carolina they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have to clean some things up for sure. But I
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  Speaker 4: was really impressed with the way Vegas managed that game
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  Speaker 4: last night. It was they got stronger as the game
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  Speaker 4: went on. And to your point, JD, as soon as
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  Speaker 4: Towards called that time out, their whole game changed. Their
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  Speaker 4: whole game change and they kind of went back to
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  Speaker 4: how they were in the previous series and just their
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  Speaker 4: experience was on to play on display last night.
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  Speaker 1: Another thought, JD, with reguards to Game one, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to know how fair or foul is this Freddie Anderson.
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  Speaker 1: The thought was didn't face a lot of vulcanized rubber right,
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of shots against Vegas a different
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  Speaker 1: offensive attack. Is Freddie allowed to have one bad game
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  Speaker 1: or is this a fact that he's gonna be facing
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  Speaker 1: a much better offense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, he had a bad game in
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  Speaker 3: Game one. I think, you know, I think the one
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  Speaker 3: thing Vegas exploited and I you know, to do sit
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  Speaker 3: down and do video and post because I want to
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  Speaker 3: post it on Twitter is the Carlson goal. And then
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  Speaker 3: The hurdle goal is because they and that's what Montreal
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  Speaker 3: got to in Game one, because they played that one
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  Speaker 3: on one style and.
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  Speaker 6: They play very tight checking.
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  Speaker 3: If you can get a give and go and get
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  Speaker 3: off that first check that guy that's getting that pass,
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  Speaker 3: you basically can make a no look blind into an
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  Speaker 3: area and if you can just beat that defender. So
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  Speaker 3: the Marner pass to Carlson was because they fucked up
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  Speaker 3: coverage and two guys went on Howd and Howden wins
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  Speaker 3: a battle, so Marner doesn't even need to look. He
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  Speaker 3: just throws it to the middle. Carlson's alone. The hurdle
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  Speaker 3: goal is the same thing. Hurdle beats his check, sists
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  Speaker 3: and sees it. All he's got to do is throw
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  Speaker 3: no look because that's the spot that's you expose him
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  Speaker 3: because it's hard in that man on man style. If
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  Speaker 3: there's a breakdown, a one on one breakdown, you just
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  Speaker 3: got to get into an area and it's a scoring chance.
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  Speaker 6: So I think they exposed that well.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that, you know, I don't discredit Freddy
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  Speaker 3: because they got to card Hart as well. A lot
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  Speaker 3: on the blocker side. Uh and Marner makes that block
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the game with otherwise, I think
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  Speaker 3: that that shot for Nikisha was in.
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  Speaker 6: But I think it's just a great hockey game.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, Well, mass is gonna be It's gonna be fucking fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Nate, I want to ask you to play at
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  Speaker 1: Brett Howden. I mean, you gotta have players who are
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily the biggest stars. This is not Jack Eichele
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  Speaker 1: take over. Mitch Marner Howden, who's not exactly an offensive
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  Speaker 1: force terrific in the back.
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  Speaker 4: End, Well, he's an offensive force now and I think
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  Speaker 4: him playing with Carlson and Marner has definitely helped. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this guy, he's just he hasn't been afraid to go
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  Speaker 4: to the hard areas in the net. And I know that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we talk about that in the playoffs, but
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  Speaker 4: he keeps doing that. Every time that there's pucking around
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  Speaker 4: the net, around around Freddy Anderson, he's there. And it
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  Speaker 4: was a hell of a play from you know, Schey
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  Speaker 4: Theodore and gets back door and makes a good play.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, if they can continue for him to
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  Speaker 4: get the scoring he has been for Vegas Golden Knights,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's looking really good for them with that, With
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  Speaker 4: that balance that balance lineup.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it feels like JD game to a must
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  Speaker 1: win for Carolina or is that a reach?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it matters. I mean, listen, it
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  Speaker 3: always matters, but it, you know, finals a lot more
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  Speaker 3: buzz to it. I think Caroline is gonna take Game two.
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  Speaker 3: I think they'll find a way either Freddie Anderson has
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  Speaker 3: a big game, probably something from KeAndre Millet. You know,
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  Speaker 3: like Slaven didn't play great yesterday either. He had he
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  Speaker 3: had a bad turnover on I think the I think
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  Speaker 3: it was the fuck whose goal was that? But Slaving
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  Speaker 3: had a turnover on one of the one of the
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  Speaker 3: goals and didn't play his best game. So I expect
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  Speaker 3: him a good game. I just chalk it up to
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  Speaker 3: they just a couple of mistakes and and Carolina has
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  Speaker 3: done a good job of figuring teams out after game one.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. But
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  Speaker 3: I would bet my bottom dollar that Carolina wins tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: All right, tell wants us to move on from the
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  Speaker 2: Cup file, so we will.
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  Speaker 6: Let's move on to Yeah, what's in the news today?
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  Speaker 2: Seven minutes a Cup final talk, that's enough, let's get Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That's it. Let's talk baseball the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk a little Jay.
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  Speaker 1: You have a lot of juniors are struggling right now,
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  Speaker 1: Mac Daddy. A huge job in Nashville finally been filled
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  Speaker 1: four months after general manager Berry Trotz announced it would
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  Speaker 1: be stepping down, the Preds announcing Tuesday that Colorado GM
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  Speaker 1: Chris mcfar on the new president general manager in Music City.
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  Speaker 1: He joined the Abs in twenty fifteen as assistant general manager,
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  Speaker 1: for going the top job in twenty twenty two. So
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: Joe Sakik, who is the current team president, will take
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  Speaker 1: over as a GM in Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the higher and eight overall?
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  Speaker 1: This is a Nashville team that missed the playoffs the
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  Speaker 1: last two seasons, hasn't won.
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  Speaker 2: A playoffs service is twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a good hire. You know.
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  Speaker 4: Chris McFarland has definitely established has done a great job
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  Speaker 4: in Colorado, has done it, I think, a really good
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  Speaker 4: job at the trade deadline, free agency. So I mean
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna have his his work cutout for him in Nashville.
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  Speaker 4: And I guess the big question mark is what direction
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  Speaker 4: is he going to go? What is he going to
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: do with guys like Stam Cooast and O'Reilly and these guys.
• 8:37
  Speaker 4: You know that they signed that Barry trot signed, so
• 8:40
  Speaker 4: you know, for Chris McFarland, I wonder, you know, And
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  Speaker 4: I heard a rumor that he got a got a
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: nice bag, got a nice long term deal. So he's
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: going to have a runway to work with this team
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  Speaker 4: money man. Ye, well.
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  Speaker 2: Got the bag.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean I'm surprised that Colorado let the
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  Speaker 3: you know, Nashville, who's in the same division as them,
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  Speaker 3: ye to McFarlane, and Vegas didn't let Cassidy talk to
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  Speaker 3: the Oilers let him get it back too, So there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of love. They must have left on good terms.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's a good hire for Nashville.
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  Speaker 3: I think we figured something would happen with them before
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  Speaker 3: the draft, and I think they were just we had
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  Speaker 3: talked about it.
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  Speaker 6: I think early we're just waiting. They were waiting for.
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  Speaker 3: Colorado to get knocked out of the playoffs or win
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  Speaker 3: the Cup. So it's probably good that they got knocked
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  Speaker 3: out against Vegas because if they go on to win,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, McFarland only really has like three weeks to
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: get ready for the draft because I guaranteed the deal
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  Speaker 3: was signed a month ago. Yeah, I'm sure, and they
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  Speaker 3: just couldn't announce it. And I'm sure Colorado knew a
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: month ago or two months ago, and they're like, you
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: can't announce it until after. So he's sitting there being like,
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: do I want to win a Cup? And then I
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: have three weeks to get this predator's organization ready to
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: put my fingerprints all over it. So it's pretty funny,
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's a good hire for them, great direction.
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  Speaker 1: Who's the Manny big news in a Vancouver is Many
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  Speaker 1: malhoach of the twenty third head coach in Vancouver Canucks history,
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  Speaker 1: replacing Adam Foote after just one season. Malhocher was the
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  Speaker 1: head coach of Vancouver's HL Teaman abbots Ford for the
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  Speaker 1: past two seasons, winning the Calder Cup in twenty twenty five.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: As a player, he played three of his seventeen NHL
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  Speaker 1: seasons in Vancouver and also JD. Most importantly, Big Time
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  Speaker 1: for Brown People. Sonny Meta now the GM of the
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Devil's Many Mahoaches. Father's Indians and I'm a Pakistan descent
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  Speaker 1: and I gets to do NHL in scripted.
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  Speaker 2: So the brown people are taking over here.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you're so you're asking a white man about
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  Speaker 3: what I think the brown people in Vancouver's about what
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  Speaker 3: I think of diversity hires, that's all you're asking me.
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  Speaker 6: Heres a white man, what do I think about diversity? Diversity? Oh, okay, diversity,
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  Speaker 6: that's up far ah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Manny Mault was my teammate and San Jose is the
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  Speaker 3: smartest team and I've ever played the most intelligent what
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  Speaker 3: a great hockey player and has established himself as just
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  Speaker 3: an amazing coach, has a great mind for the game.
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  Speaker 3: Is Vancouver in the running to get Caleb his son? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so like he might have Papa Papa coaching his son.
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  Speaker 1: Coleb McKenna goes first, one of your stars, pick a defenseman,
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  Speaker 1: and then he picks his kid third and Stembrick falls
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  Speaker 1: to four.
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  Speaker 6: No, he's not going over step.
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  Speaker 5: Was he was?
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  Speaker 2: He?
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  Speaker 5: Kind of? Is he is? He kind of like a
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  Speaker 5: Rod Brindamore. You played with him like he might.
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  Speaker 3: Many was a Manny I would probably say. Manny was
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  Speaker 3: like a version of like Jordan Stall, Like he's like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: he's a good third line center, unbelievable, great, great in.
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  Speaker 6: The face off.
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  Speaker 3: Had Skill was a great penalty killer and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just an intelligent hockey player.
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  Speaker 6: Had he had he had an eye. He got hit
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  Speaker 6: in the eye as well.
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  Speaker 5: Right, that's right, yeah he did.
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  Speaker 6: He got hit in the eye.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: Was pretty crazy, absolutely shreded. Married Steve Nash's sister. So
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: I remember I went to his house and had dinner
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  Speaker 3: with him and his wife, and I met Steve here
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  Speaker 3: in Phoenix because he's around Phoenix a lot. So I
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: went up to Phoenix and said, I know your wife,
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  Speaker 3: I know your sister Joanne and Manny and and uh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So just I just name dropped the fuck out of
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  Speaker 3: that second.
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  Speaker 2: Steve have been great, great guy.
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  Speaker 6: Awesome guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really good guy. But I just name
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  Speaker 3: dropped the ship out of that. I'm gonna drop anymore.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: Name Steve right, great to Nate, Steve Nash, I met him,
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  Speaker 3: he knows my name.
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  Speaker 1: But the idea of Caleb, I mean his son, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Bosh University commit one of the top rank players in
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  Speaker 1: the draft.
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  Speaker 2: It would just be crazy to me the imagine he's
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  Speaker 2: not going. So there's no chance, no, because I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've had one instance where I played with
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: Adam Lowry and his dad, Dave Lowry, was the assistant coach,
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: and I think he ended up I left the next
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: year and he ended up being the head coach and
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: coaching Adam. So that's the only I've know, what's the
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: only insince I've ever been a part of that with
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  Speaker 4: the NHL.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how that would turn out. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that he ends up there, just because of the
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: dynamic and being in Canada and your dad being the
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  Speaker 4: head coach, the new head coach of the Vancouver Canucks.
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  Speaker 4: It just seems like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fun story to think about, but more
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  Speaker 2: than one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, still to come Chris Nylan, our special guest.
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  Speaker 1: Does he talk about whitey ballser you'll find out anshell
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  Speaker 1: and scripted after this, our next guest. Was drafted in
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  Speaker 1: the nineteenth round Tour and thirty first overall by the
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  Speaker 1: Montreal Canadians in the nineteen seventy NHL draft.
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  Speaker 2: He collected one hundred and ten goals tour.
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  Speaker 1: And twenty five points and three thousand and forty three
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  Speaker 1: penalty minutes in six hundred and eighty eight career games.
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  Speaker 1: The Habs, Rangers and Bruins, a Cup winner with Montreal
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six.
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  Speaker 2: It is Chris Nollen. Chris, it's great to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Welcome unscripted.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having me. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to get into all the stories from
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  Speaker 1: your career. But first and foremost, you're active in the
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  Speaker 1: media these days. What do you think of this Cup
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  Speaker 1: final matchup and that game won as Vegas wins five four.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you know, I thought, I thought, listen, I picked
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  Speaker 8: Vegas at six, but I really they're a big team.
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  Speaker 8: They're a talented team as opposed to what Carolina faced
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  Speaker 8: against Montreal. You know, a fast team, a puck possession team,
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  Speaker 8: transition team, you know, Vegas.
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  Speaker 7: I just like this size, their ability to score.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I love what Mana's doing, so yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 8: looking at the first game then when it started he
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  Speaker 8: was getting those two quickies, it was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 8: I kind of felt like, you know, I picked the
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  Speaker 8: wrong team.
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  Speaker 7: But it's only one game.
• 15:02
  Speaker 8: Like the Habs won the first game against Carolina and
• 15:05
  Speaker 8: you would have thought they were off set of races
• 15:07
  Speaker 8: and Carolina is gonna have a tough time, but they
• 15:11
  Speaker 8: made certainly made adjustments and finished them off pretty good.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Chris, you know you mentioned Marner and I was like asking,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: you know, old school guys too, of what do you
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: make of you know, the Toronto media kind of constantly,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: no matter how good he does outside of Toronto, they'll
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: always kind of bring it back to you know, why
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: wasn't he doing this here? And do you make any
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: comparables of like, yeah, it's it's because of the media
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: or is it just that Marner's got a better team
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: around him?
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: Well, a combination of both.
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: Listen, I think he was marginalized theres somewhat and you know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: he could never do anything wrong. I've seen him in
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: playoffs series there, blocking shots, given his best and listen,
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: playoff hockey's tough. It's different than the regular season. I
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: know one thing. Austin Matthews missed him when he left,
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: There's no question, and then everybody gave him a hot
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: time because he's asking too much money, blah blah blah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: You know they were never happy when they Honestly, I
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: felt bad for the kid. But you know, with the
• 16:13
  Speaker 8: with the big money comes, you know, the big expectations
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: and if you don't reach them, then you know you're
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: gonna get fan bases the media that are gonna shit
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: all over you. So you know, I'm real happy for him.
• 16:28
  Speaker 8: I think he's certainly with a better team. I mean,
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: come on, look at the defense as opposed to what
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: he had in Toronto and the depth they have this
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: So you know, I I love what he's doing. And
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: you know, yeah, he got dumped on there for sure,
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: and I'm glad he's doing well. I hope he goes
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: on and it just rips it up the rest of
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: away and wins the Consmike and a Stanley Cup.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be nice, really nice, and I'm sure
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: the Toronto paperless fans would love that. You mentioned your
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: former team, the Montreal Canadians, and you know they just
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: went on this long playoff un and was there something
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: that really stuck out you impressed you about this group?
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: Well, their talent level, they got great talent. But one
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: I thought this all on a couple of things. I
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: thought from the beginning of the season, I saw it all. Yeah,
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: and listen, they've made great strides. I'm not taking anything
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: away from tremendous what they did in the playoffs, but
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: if you really dissect it all and look at it
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: they are, you know, and I said for the playoffs,
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: and I hate going back, but I did. I was
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: on a podcast and they asked me about the team,
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: and I said, listen, they're terrible in their own end.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: They have a real difficult time in their own end.
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: And you know, if they can't get that skating game going,
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: they're gonna be in trouble. You can't rely on Dobeesh
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: to do it all. And certainly he did in the playoffs.
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: He's incredible what he did. And I think he eventually
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: tied it out, and so didn't they They're just they're
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: too small and you look at the back end, all right,
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: you get six D there, right. The only guy who's
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: really physical is Gholeye. The only guy that's really physical
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: is Gooleye. The Hudson for trying and he's smart playing
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: and all that, but they don't have a physical decour
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: at all.
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: And you know that's tough when you're in you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: it's great.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Arbor, but yeah, Arber's just not he's not He's yeah,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: he's not in enough.
• 18:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't I think I
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: don't think he's developed, you know, the way they probably
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: would have liked him.
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: But some of that's on them too, It's not all
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: on him.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need those great habs offense.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And like my guy Chris Jella is Craig Ludwig obviously, Uh,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: as far as your career is concerned, knuckles.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: But in nineteen eighty eighty one and eighty seven eighty eight.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: You and Dave Tiger Williams tied for the NHL E
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: two two hundred and twenty pelia minutes.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Jesus, you led the league in.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Eighty four eighty five with a three hundred and fifty
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: eight pelia minutes.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: How vicious was the league back then? And it was
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the toughest son of a bitch play against them?
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: No, they all the listen, all those guys that do that,
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: Drava tough, the toughest guy to play against.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: They were all tough, no matter who you were up against.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Who fought Robert's a different tough.
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: No, Yeah, but probably yeah, probably I've give them that,
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: But don't put fucking words in my mouth. All right,
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: Just all the guys who do that Java tough, they
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: do you have to be to do that night in
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: the night out.
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: Uh, constantly be ready to fight constantly, be ready to
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: you know, stick up for teammate or something like that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a different game back then. Listen. I
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: loved it. I loved what I did. I enjoyed it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: It was tough.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: It was tough on me, but I love sticking up
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: for my teammates. I didn't mind fighting. There were times
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: that it certainly graded on me at times, especially as
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: I got older, it got more difficult, but I still
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: did it and it did not get at any easier
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: when I hit the age at thirty four.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: The three of us all work at HL Network, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: we work at the Great Steve Grimson.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: What was it like fighting the Grim Reaper?
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: Well, the story on that is the end of my
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: last year when I was in Boston.
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: I'll never forget it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: I fought the Grim Reaper, and you know, he was like,
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: his arms are done, and his ankles.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: And he's polling at the mouth. He's gonna fight me.
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: I ended up fighting. I remember I hung in there
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: with him.
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: But he had made some good punches and I remember
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: going the penalty box and I was like, WHOA.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: This is getting tough.
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: And I already kind of questioned myself during the season.
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: I was kind of in my head, like you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: I felt just and when you're in your head like that,
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: it's not good, you know. At thirty four years old,
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: I believe me. I really feel that's a cutoff point
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: for a forward for the most part, unless you're a
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: superstar and you can milk it a little longer. And
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: the next night I ended up fighting. And this is
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: funny story. I was in the Boston Garden and I
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: was taping my sticks out in the hall where we're
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: usually tape them outside the room, and.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: Five whalers come walking up. How for whales? We were
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: playing and we're going to see them in the playoffs.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: It's crazy anyway, They're walking up and Big Jim McKenzie's did.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: And he's staring at me. He's staring at me, and
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: I looked back at him. I said, what the fuck
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: are you looking at? And he just kept walking right.
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: So all the guys I had him on my podcast
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: and he told the story. He said, after you say,
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: he said, Nook, I grew up as a habstream. I
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: was a big fan of yours. I was just looking
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: at you because the first time I saw you in person,
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: and he said, you said that to me, and then
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: everybody in the locker room started you better go after
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: him and I and sure enough he did, and he
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: laid the lump on my head and then I got
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: in the box again. I go, oh, this is getting tough,
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: and yeah those two fights there really well ones that
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: really let me know in up here that yeah, this
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: is really difficult to do, you know, twenty year old kid,
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: I'm thirty four. I remember being there with O'Reilly and
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: Jonathan and Sea Code and this one and that one
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: because I wanted to make a name. And now now
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: it's getting done to me. Not a lot of fun.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Well let's get I mean, let's get to the you know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: The fun part for me is you know, you're a
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Boston guy, played at Northeastern and you go to Montreal,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: my hometown. Like how was that arriving there in nineteen eighty,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Like what are your thoughts being there? Is it a
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: culture shock a little bit being going from Boston to Montreal?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Which is it huge rivalry in itself?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: I drafted. I was drafted seventy eight, right, So I
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: stayed in school one more. Yeah, I wanted to leave
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: that year, but like my father wouldn't let me. He
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: was gonna kick my ass if I left school. So
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: I stayed in another year.
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: And I half asked it, and finally I said, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: got to leave. So I went in seventy nine in
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: my first camp, and I hated the Canadians. I hated
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: them growing up at Bruins fan. They broke our hearts
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: all the time, beat us all the time. And even
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: after I was drafted seventy that seventy eight to seventy nine,
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: the fourth in a row, I remember watching it and
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: just being devastated, even though I get drafted by them.
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I wanted the branch to win, and the
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: scores and then Lombia comes down and taps one in
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: and the game's over. Series over. They go on and
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: spank the Rangers. But you know I went to training camp.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: You know I didn't. I can't say it didn't do much,
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: but you know I tried to hit I tried. It
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: was just a level for me to jump up. That
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: was difficult, you know. You know I went after guys
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: try to hit them, but I wasn't going there. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: think I'm going to fight anybody. I wasn't gonna take
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: any ship if it came my way. But I wasn't
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: going to look for a fight. I was looking to
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: play physical and uh if I could get you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: score a goal off my ass and great.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: But yeah it was different. I was intimidating a little
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: bit too.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: By the city or just like the organization.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: Like see all of a sudden out there, Gala Flur, Robinson,
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: all these search Sabad galer Point, the big three of
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: the you know shot. You know, Lamar had left and
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: Dryden had left, but there's still a rise. Bro Mario
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: tromlay Ton of guys was still there, and I'm like, man,
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: do I belong here?
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: You know who's the guy that kind of brought you
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: in and was like took It's like, hey, I'm gonna
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: take you under your my wing, kid and and show
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you around.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: Well, I got sent down and I had a five
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: game tryout with the Voyage Jersey for two hundred bucks
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: a game. They gave me a five game trial. I
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: was happy have me as a clam in the sand,
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: and I figured, oh, now I got a chance. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: Bert Templeton was the coach. Remember that junior team to
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: punch up in Pistony right and Russia and the Okay.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: Burt was a coach and Bert coached at Subury and
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: he always had tough team. And I go to training
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: camp down there. He was also the GM and you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: like he didn't like college kids, right, Tim Burke was
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: the guy. Really, Timmy Burke was head scout out at
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: San Jose for years.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: He was my room.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: I love Burkey. He's the best.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: He's the best, right, and tell you.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Everything about anything.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: And he were roommates me, him and Rick Maha.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: But we got there and Burkey said, listen, this coach
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: he don't like college kids, so just get at the
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: end of the line and watch what happens and then
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: do the drill. But don't be first in the drill.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: So I'm like, okay. So there's a kid from Merymack College,
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: Richie Costello, and rich was right at the front of
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: the line.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: He wanted and pressed Burt, and he fucked the drill
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: up right, so Bert blows the whistle. He goes, Costello,
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: you dumb fuck. I thought you college kids were supposed
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: to be fucking smart. Get at the end of the
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: fucking line now, and poor rich like, forget about it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: He just melted into his skates, right, I felt so
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: bad for him. He was a nice kid.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Gone the next day, Gone Rich wasn't there.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: So Bertie told me like, yeah, just this guy's different,
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: and sure enough that five game trial. I had one
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: fight in the preseason with the kids, so they kind
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: of kept me around and gave me that trial.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: In the year.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: Before, in the playoffs, the Voyag Druids lost four games
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: straight to Maine Phillies fon team and Glenn Cochran was
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: a raining heavyweight. So the first four games in Nova Scotia,
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: I don't play, and I sit in the stand. I mean,
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: what's going on in and I end up we end
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: up going to Maine to play the first game on
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: the road and I'm gonna play. And the first shift
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: I get on the ice, I ended up hitting Cochran.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: I ran him and he turned around and slashed me.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: Boom boom. We stopped fighting.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: I cut him open really bad under his cheek and
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: I got kicked out of the game, both of us.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: He went nuts, I went nuts. We get kicked out.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: I thought I was gonna get sent to Flint because
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: I got kicked out. I thought I was in trouble, right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: I didn't know the pro hockey deal. I really didn't.
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: And the next morning I got a call from the coach. Hey,
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: come down my room.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: I gotta talk to you.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: I'm like, oh fuck, I'm gonna get sent down at Flint.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: Fucking Flint all places right in the internationally.
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: And uh. I walked in the room and he puts
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: his hand out.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: He goes, great job last night, and oh, thinks Shane
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: pretty quick in my mind.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: He goes, listen, do you have an agent?
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: And I said no, I don't have an agent, like
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: fucking seventeen round, nineteen round pick don't have agents. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: he said, well you better final one. The Canadians want
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: to sign you a contract. I signed a contract that
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: week after one fight, one game, one fight.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: It's crazy.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Wow, there's nuts.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: That's that's incredible.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: What a story, you know, just getting to play for
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: the Montreal Canadians and experiencing that. Next talk about you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty six and the experience of winning the Stanley
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Cup in Montreal and what that was like.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: Oh, it's incredible. You know what it's like playing in Montreal,
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: you do with it. You got a taste of that,
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: but to win, Uh, it's just a whole on the
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: level you know we had gone to before, to the
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: conference final against the Islanders, and we get up two
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: games to nothing and we're feeling good about ourselves, and
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: then they spanked us four straight.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: We lost four two.
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: So we come back to the airport and you won't
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: believe all the people at the airport. We lost in
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: the conference final, and all these people at the airport.
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: I remember walking through with Rick Green. He said to me,
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: can you imagine if we ever won this thing? He had,
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: the people will go absolutely bomkers. Right, So, sure enough,
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: we get in the playoffs that next year, and you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: we kind of had a shitty.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: End of the season.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: Things weren't good, and big search of OD came in
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: general manager with the president Ronald Corey, and they they
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: talked to us before the playoffs started, and I remember
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: mister Corey some of the things he said, motivating things.
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: He never played the game, but he certainly had some
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: motivating things to say.
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: And so didn't serve. So we we got going.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: We beat Boston three games straight, and then we got
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: to Hotford and uh uh uh.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: You know, God rest his soul clothes them.
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: You who I happened to be just with the other
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: night when he when he did his uh his torch
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: evening at the Bell Center. You know, everybody gives Patrick
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: was so much credit for that, and he deserved it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: He won the con Smike clod came in second.
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: But that year.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: And I always say we we could have had Stevie
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: Wonder in that and we had such a good defensive team.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: We won't We were the least goals against in the league.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: We're big, yeah, and Patrick of rookie listen, he was unbelievable.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: I'm not taking anything away from him. Maybe by that
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: previous statement I am a little bit.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: But one like loth the.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: Mewible ten goals is the rookie. You have five game winners,
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: two and over time and none. They then game seven
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: against Hotford, it was unbelievable. They scored with want less
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: than a minute left. Babbage scored on a slap shot
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: from the point. I was sitting there on the bench
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: and I see it just rising went right up into
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: the top corner on there, and the whole bench went.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: You know, we had this thing. And then we're going
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: to the locker room and regroup. And Bob Gainey was
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: really good. Well some of the things he said, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: we got back out in the ice and lo and
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: behold the old pepster backhand up top over Leadud's shoulder,
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: and I just remember going crazy. And then it was
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: like after that, you know, the Rangers four to one,
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: we beat them, they you know, and then Calgary was
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: a big they were a tough team, and then we
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: beat them four games, so one it was incredible to
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: and then coming home and you know, we got to
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: the airport and it was crazy. We had to have
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: you know, police had to escort everybody. We had like
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: six corps around each guy. That the place was jammed.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: And they originally were gonna get us on the bus
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: and we're gonna go out the back gate, but they
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: said we can't do that because if you do that,
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: they're going to destroy the airport. So they made us
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: march out through it, which was cool, but it was
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: like he couldn't move. And then it was off to
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: you know, City Hall that two days later, and the
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: parade was absolutely bunk as Saint Catherine Street the wrong.
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: It tooked like six and a half hours to go
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: from City Hall to the Forum, and then the forum
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: was full of people and they introduced each guy one
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: by one out in the state.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: Was crazy.
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: It was absolutely it was what a memory forty years ago.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: It's forty years ago. And in August, Yeah, in August,
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: Big Surge has his golf tournament every year and he
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: honors a different team every year, and he's gonna honor
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: us this year. His first Stanley Cup as a manager.
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: So it'd be good to see all those guys. Mine
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: was a few Tom Kervis who passed from cancer a
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: couple of years now, and then well recently Pep Lemieux.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: It's just terrible, you know, terrible.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: No question about it. I mean, obviously LEMI a terrific player.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Those memories are so vivid. I can tell for you.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: You were connected for years Chris the infamous Boston gangster
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger. Then after he was arrested by the FBI
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, a nineteen eighty six Canadians cup ring,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: which you're referring to, was found among his possessions. Did
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the Feds come calling about that?
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: No, but people ask me about it. I listen.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: I made Stanley cup ring for my mother in law,
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: my wife, my mother. I gave my father my Stanley
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: cup ring. Jim had that ring made for himself.
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, my connection there again, he was my.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: Father in law, and yeah, I you know, he had
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: a different type of job.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: You know a lot of people like how can you
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: talk to guys might following? What am I gonna do?
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know he's around, and you know I got
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: along just fine with him. But I can certainly understand
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: when you're in that business. I certainly want I wouldn't
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: want to be against him.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: He also reportedly came to Canada to watch the Bruins
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: from the Stailing Cup in Vancouver in twenty eleven.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Was he a bigger hockey fan that Vancouver? Apparently was
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: in Vancouver watching the Bruins won the Cup?
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: That's I doubt that he was. He was in you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: if you follow it, he was in.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: The big house.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: No, what was twenty eleven? Yet twenty eleven he was
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: still on the run, wasn't he?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I guess reportedly he was on the run.
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, people report a lot of shit, but point yeah, yeah,
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: he listen.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: He used to come up and watch games, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: and he certainly he wanted to see my kids and
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: stuff and Karen, my ex wife, and yeah, so he
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: used to come up and go to games, and he
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: enjoyed it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: You know. I think he really enjoyed it because.
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: No one really knew who he was up there, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: and he could kind of, you know, maneuver around town
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: and just kind of not worry about, yeah, THEI being
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: up his ass.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Or yeah, someone shooting as the Yeah.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Do you have any idea Fuddy Bulger was a fan
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of the movie that departed, the Great Scorsese movie.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: I have no idea, and probably not though probably yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: probably not.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: It was kind of Yeah, it was kind of hollywooded,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Hollywood eyed. Yeah, you'd say, right, Hollywood died knowing him.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he didn't like any of that stuff.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they wanted to have you know, we mentioned
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: twenty eleven, but when you did that Last Gladiators Alex
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Gibney's doc, it is tough at times to share about
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: struggles we have as athletes and things like that, but
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: also just talking and but I feel like it's something
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: that a lot of people need to hear, especially other athletes.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: You know, what was the response for you after kind
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: of sharing a lot and how was that experience for you?
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah? That was, Yeah, it was cool, you know it
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: was kind of an extension of my I went to treatment.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: And when I got out of treatment back then, someone
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: reached out to my daughter.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: It was the producer, one of the producers.
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: Barie Reese, and he reached out to my daughter and
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: I called him and I ended up he ended up
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: kind of telling me what it was about.
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: Would you be willing to do it? I have really
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: nothing going.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: Right at the time. I was trying to get back
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: on my feet, so I decided to do it. And
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: it was kind of extension know the therapy I had
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: been had gone through for the three months while I
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: was in there. It allowed me to kind of freed
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: me up to talk about some things that I normally
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: probably wouldn't have talked about.
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: And you know, it was a good stop for me
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: as far as on my road to recovery.
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: But you know, I've faulted in that about five four
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: years later. Uh, and then finally got back on the
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: horse and got going again. You know, I did a
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: thing in Montreal for I'm part of a mental health
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: foundation there called the laurens Any Mental Health Foundation, and
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: I did it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: Kind of.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: Like a one man show, kind of like Tyson Mike
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: Tyson did but mine wasn't as comedic it was at times.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: But I I talked about mental health. I talked about
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: growing up in Boston, how I grew up, my road
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: to the NHL, and then how I got addicted to
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: paying medication and how I turned my life around.
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: I did four of the five of those shows. I
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: did five.
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: It was two hours a night on stage, three hundred
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: people at night. It was a big corporate thing to
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: raise money, and we raised a ton of money. And yeah,
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: I was real. I was nervous as shit the first night. Like,
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: you know, it's funny. My my wife Jamie was saying,
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: I've never seen you like this. I know, because you know, like.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Going out there, it's a different muscle.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: No, it's different, but different.
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: Honestly, I never felt that worried before a hockey game.
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: If I was in Philadelphia Boston. Of course, I was like,
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: I know, I'm fighting, I'm getting ready, but I was
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: actually scared shit.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: And then when I get out there.
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: Uh, and I got going because I knew I know
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: my story and I know I can deliver it. But
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: once I got rolling, I felt pretty good about it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: I felt better, but each night it got a little
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: bit better. But I was nervous. It was a good
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: thing to be nervous before. But I got it all out.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm used to doing it now I'm not.
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: I'm not ashamed of my life or what happened with me.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: I got where I got. You know, when I was,
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: I was a willing participant, and at one point it
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: became I wasn't willing, but I had a difficult time
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: to get out of it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: It's part of the human experience. Yeah, at times.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, before my next question, I gotta tell you
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: guys too, I mean, you Knox, were a huge part
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: of my recovery. I remember, I remember giving you a
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: call coming to Montreal and I was in a I
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: was in a bad spot, and you've been there kind
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: of every step of the way. So so I just
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I got to say, you know how many guys you've helped. Uh,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: It's it's been pretty remarkable and incredible. So you know,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's heavy for me to talk about just
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: because of where I was, and then you talking about
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: it brings up a lot.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: But you know, I want I want to talk.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: About you know, Claude Lemieux and you know everyone knows
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: him as you know, this agitator and they remember him
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: as that player. What was he like in the locker
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: room and what kind of impact did he have on you?
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: Well, listen, Uh, he pissed me off, like a lot
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: of teammates.
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: And I love Clode, you know, he impressed the ship
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: out of me.
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: And I say that because like all guys, when you
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: come into the game, there's a certain immaturity level. Yeah, right,
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: you come in you've got to learn your way. You're
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: a young kid. These old the guys have been there done.
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: I got the T shirt, but you have that immature
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: way about you.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: I know I did, and I know Pep did.
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: And and you know he's a kid who you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: French kid, French speaking, picking up the language English, and
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: on the ice he would say some things to other
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: guys on other teams and do some things that were like, oh,
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: you know, it's just really it was maddening. You know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: he'd piss off the other team, but he pissed offs
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: off too. And then Pep, you know, after having that
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: playoff series and then watching him grow, you know, he
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: I still think this time.
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: In Montreal is you know, it took him a while mature.
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: And then he went off to the States the Devils
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: and and we know what he did, you know, the.
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: Forth Stanley Cup.
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: When I had talked to Claude later and I coached
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: him when I was in Jersey for a year and
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: Cloe was good to me.
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: I I struggled there a little bit as an assistant coach,
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: you know, I was handling a d and I had
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: some guys that just didn't want to fucking didn't like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: like Scottie Stevens fucking hated me, you know. And and Larry,
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: big Larry Robinson told me who I was gonna have
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: because he was there before he was leaving. But he
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: told me who I would have problems with, and I did.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: But anyway, but wait, why did Scott Stevens hate you?
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: Well, we fought and you know the stupid ship, you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: it's stuff on the ice. But Scotty like you can't
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: tell him anything. He knew everything, you know. And you know, uh,
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: if you didn't put him on the fucking first pop play,
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: fucking piss him on. But Lea May I La May.
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: I used to tell me I want him against the
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: top line. And he never goes first on the pop play,
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: only second near the end, you know, and then.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: You gotta be you gotta be the one to tell
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: him that.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: He fucking always stare at me and then Dan or
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: if I had to, you know, they looked at me like,
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: I'm I'm like the worst guy in the world, and
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: I get it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: Listen, here's the deal.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: And I'll I fuck I tell the truth.
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: I am not a fucking assistant coach.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: I never had.
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: And Jock brought me in because he knew I knew
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: his system and he he he knew I could get
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: it across the players. I knew how defenseman should play
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: in that system. I know how they should play down low,
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: how to kill penalties. I knew everything about jock system.
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: He really but I just wasn't a fucking as I'm
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: not a fanny patter. So the players thought they had
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: two head coaches, you know, they felt like they had to, which.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: I get totally. So that's on me.
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: That's on me, and I kind of felt bad for Jock.
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: But Jock was cool. I love that guy. I got
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: a off track.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: What was that your favorite?
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: Pet so Pete to go on and win those Stanley Cups,
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: and I mean anyway, and and talk to him.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: Years later, I saw him speak at an event.
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: And I was blown away how the command he had
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: the English language, and how articulate he had become and worldly.
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: You know, he grew up in this little po dunk
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: town up in Quebec, and and then he got exposed
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: all that south of the border, and boy he took
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: advantage of it. And he really I freaking I came
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: to really, And not that I didn't love him as
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: a teammate. I did, but you know, he had whats
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: you know, like we all do it. You know, we
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: have things guys don't like about us. I don't care
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: what you say. We're a close team. And and Pep
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: really man, he really he came into his own and
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: certainly people really loved being around them. You know, he
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: had a good sense of humor with a good guy.
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: It's just terrible, you know. I was with him the
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: night of the torch and he asked me, said, I
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: was with his two sons, Chris and Mike, and they're
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: breaking huge.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: Are like six' three sixty, four the two of.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: Them AND i was telling how much the father meant
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: to me because OF i, said see this, RING i
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: have on my fingers thanks to your. FATHER i told the.
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: Story everybody, Said, Patrick, Patrick, patrick but your father Had
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: we never win A cup if he doesn't swore that
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: goal In game. Seven AND i was building them up
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: to his, kids and, fuck he looked. Shop he's dressed,
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: well he big. Smile you could never ever tell something
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: was going on with. HIM i JUST i was blown
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: away WHEN i found. Out but then he said to, me,
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: Nuts he, said how is. It he seemed a little
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: nervous about. GOING i, said just make sure you walk.
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: Slow they told me to walk. SLOW i, SAID i
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: went too. FAST i, SAID i went faster THAN i can.
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: Skate for price, SAKE i would. LIKE i couldn't wait
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: to get out, there and and HE i think it
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: was a little nervous about being back at the fan.
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: Base and then, YEAH i, Said, pep you're gonna walk out.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: There they're going to see your name and, number and
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: they're going to see, you and that roof is going
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: to come out the.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: Place and it. Did and then you, know two.
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: Days, Later i'm In toronto at an event speaking and
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: about twenty minutes BEFORE i went, on someone texted me and,
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: said so sorry to hear WHY i didn't knew nothing about.
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: IT i was just freaking blew me, away blew me,
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: away so, sad suffering in, silence, Right and you know
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: when we talk about mental, health you, know and, advocacy
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: trying to help other, people people suffering silently because you,
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: know and And, NATE i know you did some stuff
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: and check on your teammates With marco and, company and
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: you know they people suffering. Silence they're worried about being,
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: judged they're worried about looking, weak and and you, know
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: it's really difficult for them to come forward and ask for.
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: HELP i KNOW i had a difficult time DOING i get.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: That but, boys in the, end it's one of the
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: most selfless things you can do for. Yourself.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: One.
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: Two it does take, Courage it takes strength to ask
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: somebody for, help and especially with someone who who's used,
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: to you, know being there for other, people it's really really.
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: Difficult and it's a Shame claude made that. DECISION i
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: just h, yeah it's.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Terrible, certainly it's a tragedy the hockey world and everyone's
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: still dealing With Chris nile and memorable, stories remarkable. Stuff,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Again nate was talking about the impact you've had on.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Him you're coaching Young jason De murs and the summer rookie.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Tournament do you remember coaching?
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: Me when was?
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: That this was you called Uh Tony romano who he
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: was friends with some of. Yours you came to this
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: turn this TRIPLE a tournament in the. Summer where was It?
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: Concticut?
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: Yes he was?
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: It Max patriuretti on that team, Too, yes, yeah, OKAY
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: i came with the Kid Jerry. DWYER i played, College.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: Jerry that's, It Jerry. DWYER i didn't KNOW i was
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: on that. Team my dad, WAS i, think helped coach with.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: You.
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah that's, Funny. Jerry come, on you're gonna coach these?
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: KIDS i, said what AM? I he just wanted me.
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: To he's the one who gave Me knuckles the nickname in.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: College it was. Him, okay it was.
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: HIM i didn't get that in the.
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: PROS i got that in college BECAUSE i was fighting
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: on the street all the. TIME i will come IN
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: i have a cut, out my knuckles will cut out
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: all the, time and he'd be, like what what's going?
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: ON i, SAID i got in a fight the other.
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: Day forget about.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: It, yeah SO.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: I got the Nickname knuckles and call.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: It that's so.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: Funny great, Stuff.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Knuckles. Thanks how about how.
• 49:28
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• 49:33
  Speaker 7: Store she said she knew you Know. Sylvie you Know?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Sylvie, yeah, yeah yeah my mom my mom worked at
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: that pet store for.
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: Talked about you all the. Time so, YEAH i Know
• 49:43
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• 49:46
  Speaker 6: Best she's the sweetest. Woman, yeah that is so.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Funny good shot To, Sylvie Ya.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: Yazoo awesome than so.
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: Much, hey thank you. Guys good to see us anything.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Anytime thanks once again To Chris now And knuckles did
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: not want to. Leave does not get cheated on the
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: ice when it comes to fighting or giving his. Opinion
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: have all right, Now time For zacharensky and The Columbus Blue.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Jackets up and down season with The Blue jackets one a,
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  Speaker 1: milestone The warensky named The Norse trophy Win angels Top,
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  Speaker 1: defenseman First.
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  Speaker 2: Columbus player to win The norris and the First Columbus.
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  Speaker 1: Blue jackets player to win any major award Since Sergei
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  Speaker 1: barbrovski won his Second vesna in twenty. Seventeen JD's still
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  Speaker 1: a little. Salty Evan boucher does not top.
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  Speaker 2: Three he was.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth he did get twelve first place, folks but he
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  Speaker 1: finished fourth and voting By, Wrensky cale mccar the runner,
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  Speaker 1: up And Rasmus. Dolleen you're the, DEFENSEMAN. Jd your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: Of warenski the best defenseman in?
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  Speaker 6: HOCKEY i call. It, yeah he should have been a landside.
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  Speaker 6: Victory it.
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  Speaker 3: Was it Was WARENSKI'S i think what he did leading
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  Speaker 3: the team in points almost got him there to the.
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  Speaker 3: Playoffs they just ran out of, gas had some injury,
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  Speaker 3: problems coaching, struggles But zacharnsky Was he was a monster
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  Speaker 3: this year AND i expect him to be that next.
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  Speaker 3: Year SO i even had him in some. Conversations if
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  Speaker 3: they'd have made the, PLAYOFFS i would have pushed for
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  Speaker 3: him to be in The Heart trophy, Conversation, yeah BECAUSE
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  Speaker 3: i mean without him, there they're in THE.
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  Speaker 6: Ahl that.
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  Speaker 3: Team nothing against the players on the, team it's just
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  Speaker 3: he is that good offensively and. Defensively guy plays thirty
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  Speaker 3: minutes a.
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  Speaker 6: Night, YEAH i.
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  Speaker 4: AGREE i don't have any issue with. THIS i think
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  Speaker 4: this season was the season Of Norris trophy. Finalists there's
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  Speaker 4: so many good d this year and he's done it
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  Speaker 4: not just this season but previous seasons, Too so well
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  Speaker 4: deserved need two.
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  Speaker 6: Trophies that's what you've been pushing, FOR i, know but so,
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  Speaker 6: YEAH i.
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  Speaker 4: AGREE i agree with that THOUGH i think we should have.
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  Speaker 4: getting awards, too should be in the.
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  Speaker 6: Mix dolly, Murried cider he skin In hayskin is never
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  Speaker 6: gonna win as.
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  Speaker 2: Cider release was, fifth he was in the.
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  Speaker 3: Top thing Like hayskin will never win us The norris
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  Speaker 3: because people just this is what it.
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  Speaker 2: Is, Well i'm thrilled For.
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  Speaker 1: Coop he finally gets his First Jack Adams, awards complading
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  Speaker 1: his fourteenth season with The. Bulls and this guy's been
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  Speaker 1: wildly considered it as one of the best coaches in.
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  Speaker 1: Hockey beat So Dan muse And JD's Guy Lindy Rouff
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  Speaker 1: lindy At, Home rough on The. Road after being a
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  Speaker 1: finalist twice Before nate how about, It coop finally gets HIS.
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  Speaker 5: I Thought Big Dick dan was his.
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  Speaker 6: GUY i thought that was his. Guy how do you
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  Speaker 6: give it TO i would not give it to.
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  Speaker 2: Him Achievement Award coop never. Won he's gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Get, well that's why they gave it to. Him it
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  Speaker 3: is for that and you're, Fired. Coop now he fired next,
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  Speaker 3: year now if that's the, case.
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  Speaker 6: Because it's LIKE i, said it's.
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  Speaker 5: Like a bad luck. Thing off you get that. Award.
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  Speaker 4: YEAH i Had coop as as a head coach one
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  Speaker 4: year and you talked about.
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  Speaker 5: It. ABE i, mean he he's. EVOLVED i mean to
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  Speaker 5: be with one team.
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  Speaker 4: As long as he has and you, know still doing his,
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  Speaker 4: thing and now he finally gets his.
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  Speaker 5: First Jack adams not mad about it for.
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  Speaker 2: Him, yeah it was definitely cool to. See All, right
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  Speaker 2: last topic here the award.
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  Speaker 1: Shows everyone knows my love for The, oscars The, emmys
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  Speaker 1: The Golden, globes The Tony. Awards remember THE Nhl. AWARDS
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  Speaker 1: i remember tal remembers. This we used to watch nic award.
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  Speaker 1: SHOW i tape it ON. VHS i Remember rick mahar
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  Speaker 1: done in the. Past you Get Dennis, leary all these
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  Speaker 1: guys showing. Up, GEE i, think, listen this was great
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  Speaker 1: the way they did this With cooper Awarded Matthew shaeffer a,
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  Speaker 1: On Good Morning.
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  Speaker 2: America but how about an award. Show let's Get Keenan.
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  Speaker 3: NOW i actually liked what they did with the surprising of,
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  Speaker 3: guys like that new thing they've started to do with
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  Speaker 3: like The hall Of fame, stuff and what they did
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  Speaker 3: With Matthew. Shaffer it's really. Cool, listen winning an award is.
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  Speaker 3: distaste that The hollywood community has nine hundred awards, shows
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  Speaker 3: The SAgs and The, baths and you're on like a
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  Speaker 3: whole tour of trying to collect trophies so you can
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  Speaker 3: win An, oscar and you, spend you spend millions of.
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  Speaker 3: Dollars you waste tens of millions of dollars to market
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  Speaker 3: to win an award so that you're you can get
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  Speaker 3: a pay, bump when all those people are also there
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  Speaker 3: spending seventeen million dollars in a marketing, budget but then
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  Speaker 3: preaching that we have to help the disenfranchised and help
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  Speaker 2: Biff don't want to mess with the Grim. Raper thanks
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  Speaker 1: WEEK i think we're still One clipper show, ish but
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  Speaker 1: we'll back next.
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  Speaker 2: Time thanks for listening. Him we'll catch up. Soon all
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