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  Speaker 1: It's the reform it tonight, Cory Benardi joins One Nation
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  Speaker 1: and I'll talk to Pauline Hanson a bit of a bombshell.
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  Speaker 1: She says she's going to let someone else be the
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  Speaker 1: first One Nation prime minister. Don't miss it. Hanson also
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  Speaker 1: reveals her plans for slashing government spending. Also coming up,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Canavan had a question who to trust the film
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: critics who say that Milania Trump's new documentary is the
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: worst film ever made, it's like a Nazi documentary, or
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: the public who say they love it and just gave
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  Speaker 1: it the biggest box office opening for a documentary. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: China builds its sixth station in Antarctica, what's it actually
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  Speaker 1: up to? An expert warns, But first, today really exposed
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  Speaker 1: our cocky treasurer Jim Charmers. Today showed that, yes, the
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  Speaker 1: opposition is hopeless, we all know that. But Charmers is
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  Speaker 1: meanwhile smashing the economy and then blaming everyone but himself.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because, of course, today the Reserve Bank raised
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  Speaker 1: interest rates for the first time in more than two years,
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  Speaker 1: raised it byero point twenty five of a basis point
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  Speaker 1: because inflation is now on the rise again. After the
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  Speaker 1: government claimed it have broken its back. Here is the
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  Speaker 1: Reserve Bank Governor Michelle Bullock just this afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Inflation is what caused them lots of trouble. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: the price level. The price level has gone up twenty
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  Speaker 2: to twenty five percent over the last few years and
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  Speaker 2: people see that every time they walk into a supermarket
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  Speaker 2: or they go to the doctor or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The ABA governor even admitted inflation with stayed too high
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  Speaker 1: until the second half of twenty twenty eight. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to hang around for another two and a half years,
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  Speaker 1: go up a bit more than this, she said, and
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  Speaker 1: she couldn't rule that lifting interest rates again to fight it.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you this is a scandal. It's an indictment
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  Speaker 1: of Jim Charmers and of the government and of the
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  Speaker 1: Reserved Bank as well. This inflation and these new rate rises.
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  Speaker 1: It is something you do not see in almost any
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  Speaker 1: other advanced country under other governments.
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  Speaker 3: Australia's current rate of inflation poking up towards four percent,
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  Speaker 3: is much higher than many other comparable countries, including the
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  Speaker 3: likes of the UK, Canada, others and the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the world as well.
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  Speaker 1: But trisy Jim Charmers always looks oh so sure of himself,
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  Speaker 1: you know, no matter how much of shambles is making
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  Speaker 1: the economy, he today showed no shame and gave no apology. Unbelievably,
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  Speaker 1: even clay En he'd been helpful in lowering inflation. I
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  Speaker 1: mean talk about deluded. Take responsibility for all parts of
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  Speaker 1: my job.
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  Speaker 4: I take responsibility for playing a helpful role in this
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  Speaker 4: fight against inflation.
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  Speaker 1: But then Chalmers once again blamed someone else for the
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  Speaker 1: interest race in fact going up again, causing such pain
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  Speaker 1: to everyone with the mortgage or with any kind of debt.
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  Speaker 1: Chalmer's even claimed it was somehow the fault of the opposition,
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  Speaker 1: which memo to Jim, it hasn't been in power for
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  Speaker 1: four years because.
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  Speaker 4: They all desperately wanted interest rates to go up today.
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  Speaker 4: But they left us much higher inflation, They left us
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  Speaker 4: a much weaker budget.
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  Speaker 1: They took to the election of policy to make all
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  Speaker 1: of that worse, not better. Nor would the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: today except the blame or say sorry.
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  Speaker 5: The RBA has just confirmed the worst fears of Australian
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  Speaker 5: interest rates have risen by a quarter of a percent,
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  Speaker 5: meaning the mortgage repayments of millions of Australians will rise.
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  Speaker 5: The Prime Minister promised that Australia had quote turned the
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  Speaker 5: corner on inflation and that his government had it quote
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  Speaker 5: under control. The Prime Minister took credit for rate cuts
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  Speaker 5: last year. Will he now take responsibility for the rate
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  Speaker 5: rise today?
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  Speaker 6: We've acknowledged certainly that many Australians are doing it tough.
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  Speaker 1: Now. What was so telling today was actually just how
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  Speaker 1: deceitfully Charmers dodged the blame for this interest rates disaster,
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  Speaker 1: even though many economists and business leaders blamed the owenazy governs,
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  Speaker 1: out of control spending for a lot of it. Chamess
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  Speaker 1: has said blamed international uncertainty, but the Reserve Being said, well,
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  Speaker 1: actually that wasn't the fact that that had little or
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  Speaker 1: no depressing effect on our economy. In fact, trade has
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  Speaker 1: been on the upside. And then there was Charmer's other
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  Speaker 1: big excuses today that it was the opposition's fault and
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  Speaker 1: this is a new one, or Australians they were spending
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  Speaker 1: too much. He blamed your spending and not his own.
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  Speaker 4: I encourage him to read the Reserve Bank statements today.
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  Speaker 4: But that makes it clear is that the pressure on
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  Speaker 4: inflation is coming from private demand.
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  Speaker 1: The Reserve Bank didn't say that. It said private spending
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  Speaker 1: was more than it predicted, but it refuses to criticize
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  Speaker 1: government spending, which I think is irresponsible, even cowardly of it.
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  Speaker 2: And now I'm not going to tell the government what
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  Speaker 2: to do with fiscal policy. That's not my business.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is your job, governor, if the government is
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  Speaker 1: making inflation worse, and that is in fact what bullet
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  Speaker 1: seemed to actually suggest.
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  Speaker 2: We are seeing aggregate demand, public and private push up
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  Speaker 2: against the limits of growth, and that's what we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: in terms of inflation at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Now, there was one more factor to this rise in
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  Speaker 1: interest rates. One of the reasons we're in this strife
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  Speaker 1: is that productivity is so terrible, and that of course
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  Speaker 1: is made worse by this government's union friendly new restrictions
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  Speaker 1: and how bosses run their business.
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  Speaker 2: The economy is closer to its supply capacity than we
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  Speaker 2: previously thought, which means supply constraints are binding in some
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  Speaker 2: more sectors, and it's not taken much of a pickup
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  Speaker 2: in demand to generate price pressures. Years of week to
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  Speaker 2: no productivity growth is a big part of that story.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's cut to the chase here, inflation is rising
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  Speaker 1: again and interests rates have gone up, and they'll probably
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  Speaker 1: go up again. And the reasons for that include the
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  Speaker 1: government's spending too much, giving out massive handouts, choking workplaces,
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  Speaker 1: and making electricity too expensive with his mad climate schemes. Now, look,
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  Speaker 1: we don't ask much from a treasure most times. We
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  Speaker 1: want our prices to stay low, our spending money to
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  Speaker 1: go up, our tax is not wasted, and government debt
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  Speaker 1: to fall. Well. Jim Charmers, the treasurer, is a man
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  Speaker 1: so arrogant that he wants boasted. He'd reinvent capitalism. But
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  Speaker 1: on these four very basic tests of any treasurer, his
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  Speaker 1: score is a fail. It is zero from four in
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  Speaker 1: simply doing his job, Prices are going up, disposable income
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  Speaker 1: has gone down, and your taxes are splashed against the wall.
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  Speaker 1: While Charmers admits we face a decade of deficits to come,
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  Speaker 1: a record like that should wipe the smirk from charmers face.
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  Speaker 1: He fails, and you must pay. And today told you
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  Speaker 1: how much you've seen the polls. One nation now way
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  Speaker 1: more popular than the opposition leader. Pauline Hanson, way more
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  Speaker 1: popular than the opposition leader and Hanson's now saying she
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  Speaker 1: could form government after the next election, and today her
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  Speaker 1: One Nation juggernaule kept rolling along threatened to crush the
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  Speaker 1: Liberals and Nationals to death. Hanson confirmed she has signed
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  Speaker 1: up former Liberal Senator Corey Bernardi to One Nation, but
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  Speaker 1: not to run for the Senate. He'll instead run in
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  Speaker 1: the South Australian state election in March.
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  Speaker 7: Pauline has been perhaps, if not one of the most
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  Speaker 7: resilient and precient political figures of our time. For three decades,
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  Speaker 7: She's been advocating the same course, the right course for Australia.
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  Speaker 7: She's saying there is something wrong with a legacy political
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  Speaker 7: system where the two party duopoly effectively is working against
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  Speaker 7: the people and just for themselves.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think Corey is a good signing up for
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  Speaker 1: South Australia. Hanson was triumphant.
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  Speaker 6: I'm warning Labor now you're on notice. We are coming
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  Speaker 6: for your seats and we are actually going to represent
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  Speaker 6: the people of this state to give them hope and
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  Speaker 6: the future generations, Hope that they can own a house,
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  Speaker 6: hope that they can hold on to a job, hope
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  Speaker 6: that they can get that hospital bed when they need it.
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  Speaker 1: And yet This is not quite the defection that One
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  Speaker 1: Nation promised. Bernardi had already quit the Liberals and formed
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  Speaker 1: his own Australian Conservatives part of it that peed it
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  Speaker 1: out after just a couple of years. He's now going to,
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  Speaker 1: in effect be replacing Sarah a Game, who quit One
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  Speaker 1: Nation after using it to get electeds to South Australia
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  Speaker 1: Upper House. But One Nation is teasing us that there
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  Speaker 1: will be more recruits than come could sell the Australian Liberals.
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  Speaker 1: Senator Alex Antique defect and give One Nation a fifth
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  Speaker 1: Senate seat his own. Antique refuses to rule it out,
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  Speaker 1: is watching and waiting. But today Nationals MP Lou O'Brien,
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  Speaker 1: a friend of Barnaby Joyce, now with One Nation again,
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  Speaker 1: threatened to quit the Nationals as well if the Coalition
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  Speaker 1: didn't push to repeal the new hate speech laws, which
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  Speaker 1: by the way, the Liberals certainly will not. Now O'Brien's
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  Speaker 1: vote in his federal Queensland seat of White Bay, it's
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  Speaker 1: around forty percent, is high enough, add to that the
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  Speaker 1: One Nation vote as well, that he'd probably still win
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  Speaker 1: it if he stood for One Nation himself. I talked
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  Speaker 1: to pauling Hanson a short while ago. It was fascinating,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to say she said something that I
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  Speaker 1: suspect will be used against her. Pauline Hanson, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: joining us. You promise the big new recruit. But Corey
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  Speaker 1: Benardi isn't going to run for you federally for the
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  Speaker 1: Senate just in the South Austria election in March instead.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that, Andrew?
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  Speaker 6: You have to build the strong foundations and it has
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  Speaker 6: happened also in the States. The States are in desperate
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  Speaker 6: need of help and assistance. You know, when you look
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  Speaker 6: at the government in these states, you look at the opposition,
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  Speaker 6: there is nothing. This last week, I've traveled the country extensively,
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  Speaker 6: different different city every day and to listen to the
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  Speaker 6: people come up to me, they're just crying out for hope,
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  Speaker 6: don't give up, keep going, you know, and people want change.
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  Speaker 6: But it's just not the federal arena. I'm targeting states
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  Speaker 6: and I will be targeting council elections also.
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  Speaker 1: Now Corey has already had already quit the Liberal Party
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  Speaker 1: to form his Australian Conservatives Party. Now that failed, as
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  Speaker 1: you know. But your one Nation, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: is soaring in the polls. Why are you succeeding where
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  Speaker 1: Corey failed.
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  Speaker 6: You've got to look at over a period of time, Andrew.
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  Speaker 6: It's next month, actually in one month's time, thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 6: I was first selected to the Parliament nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 6: It's been over a long period of time to build
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  Speaker 6: up that trust and belief from the public. A lot
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  Speaker 6: of things that I said then my speeches, people said,
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  Speaker 6: if only we had listened to her, then people are
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  Speaker 6: experiencing now, whether it's a cost of living or not
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  Speaker 6: only in their own home, where the country's going, industries,
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  Speaker 6: manufacturing being lost, the wok agender that's been forced on us,
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  Speaker 6: the educational levels, everything, Andrew, I can go on. It's
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  Speaker 6: a number of things, things people really realize, hurt and pain,
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  Speaker 6: and it's taken me three decades to gain that trust
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  Speaker 6: and confidence from the Australian people.
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  Speaker 1: Have you also talked to Alexantik, the Liberal senator also
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  Speaker 1: in South Australia. He'd be perfect for you and would
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  Speaker 1: give you immediately another Senate seat as well. Any interest there.
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  Speaker 6: No, I haven't spoken of Alexantik, and I agree with you.
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  Speaker 6: Alex is another person that I see sheer frustration with
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  Speaker 6: the coalition, especially Liberal Party that he is a part
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  Speaker 6: of in not representing the Australian people. I'm very well
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  Speaker 6: with Alex. Have I approached him, No, I haven't. That's
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  Speaker 6: something that these people must consider for themselves. Is One
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  Speaker 6: Nation a good fit for them? As Barnaby said, I
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  Speaker 6: never forced my hand on anyone. I give them time
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  Speaker 6: to think about it. But also, Andrew make it quite clear,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to just take anyone from political parties
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  Speaker 6: that see that you know, oh well, the ship sinking,
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  Speaker 6: we must jump over. I'm going to look at their performance,
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  Speaker 6: what they've stood for, what they represent. Are they hard workers?
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  Speaker 6: Are they there for the right reasons. I don't want
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  Speaker 6: career politicians. And if I'm going to build this party
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  Speaker 6: into a party that will eventually be government, either in
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  Speaker 6: the state or the federal arena, then I want the
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  Speaker 6: right people on board and the right message I'm sending
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: out to the Australian people.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Well, you've said a few times there again that you
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  Speaker 1: want the One Nation to be a party of government.
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  Speaker 1: It cannot be a party of government without a leader
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  Speaker 1: in the lower House. You're in the Senate. Are you
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  Speaker 1: thinking of running in a lower House seat?
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  Speaker 6: I have options which I can look at over the
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: next couple of years. But Andrew, it doesn't necessarily have
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: to be me. You know, my sites aren't being you know,
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  Speaker 6: purely because to be prime minister. I haven't got an
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  Speaker 6: ego that big. My aim is to get what's right
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  Speaker 6: for the country and if it's not me, then I'll
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  Speaker 6: ensure that we do have the right person to fill
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: that position. Am I seeing one nation to be government
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  Speaker 6: the next election? I don't know. That's up to the
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  Speaker 6: people of Australia where they cast their vote, but I
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: know that if I don't set my sights on being
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: government one day, why would the people put their trust
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  Speaker 6: and faith in voting for us. I have to have
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  Speaker 6: confidence and faith in myself and what I'm delivering in
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  Speaker 6: policies for the Australian people first and foremost. So don't say,
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: you know, remember that it was John Gordon that was
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: in the Senate for a while who was Prime Minister
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  Speaker 6: of the country. There's nothing in our constitution that says
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  Speaker 6: that the Prime Minister must come from the lower house.
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  Speaker 6: So it's all new. This is something totally new, But
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: let's see what happens. Unless somebody wants to tell me
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  Speaker 6: totally different.
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  Speaker 1: Gorton did quit the Cener well, Gordon did quit the
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  Speaker 1: Senate to move into the lower House. But if it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be you that would be prime minister
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: of a one nation government, who would it be. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Barnaby's were thinking of running in the Senate.
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  Speaker 6: As well, Andrew, Andrew, we're two years outside of the election.
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  Speaker 6: I can't tell you that. You know, this is a
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  Speaker 6: juggernaut that's happening at the moment, the rise of one nation,
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  Speaker 6: the sport that we're getting. You know, this is something
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  Speaker 6: that's just happening. And I will go along with it,
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: and we will have our plans and where we're going
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: to go and who's going to fill these positions. But
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: I can tell you I do have the nouse. I
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: do have the ability to drive this. I've been around
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: in politics for last three decades. Barnaby's been around for
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: a little bit less than that. And we do have
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  Speaker 6: people coming on board with experience and knowledge. Don't underestimate myself,
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  Speaker 6: all the people that I'm collecting along the way to
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  Speaker 6: represent the Austranged people. You know, all your government departments,
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  Speaker 6: everyone's still there. All you need other people to direct
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  Speaker 6: them and change the policies to ensure prosperity for our nation.
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  Speaker 6: And that's what I'm going to deliver.
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  Speaker 1: Chapaula hasn't. Meanwhile, look, your juggernaw is just going like
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it from nowhere. Well almost, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're very much somewhere. You're destroying the Liberals and Nationals
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  Speaker 1: there now desperately trying to join again in a coalition
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: because they know they're being destroyed by you. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that's going to save them from one nation if
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: they did manage to get together again.
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  Speaker 6: Let me make it quite clear. I'm not destroying them.
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  Speaker 6: They are destroying themselves. Since the last election, people have
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: been screaming out to reduce mass migration. Where's the Liberal
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: party policy? Even with climate change, they couldn't get out
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: And you know they say, oh, they'll get out in
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  Speaker 6: that zero, but they're not getting out of the Paris Agreement.
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  Speaker 6: It's all the Doubles speak. People don't trust them anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Have a look at the leadership. But that's their issue,
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  Speaker 6: not bye. And if I can deliver people a clear
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  Speaker 6: option with policies, how to reduce our debt, how to
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: cut back government spending, how to actually give people, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the ability to own their own home. Stop for an
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  Speaker 6: investment of our housing, our land, our farms. To represent
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  Speaker 6: the Australian people, fly the flag with pride, address their education,
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  Speaker 6: get rid of the workness that you can be a
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  Speaker 6: male and you are a female, or you are a male,
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  Speaker 6: only two sexes. I'm clear and divisive in what i
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  Speaker 6: want for this country. So don't say that I'm destroying them.
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  Speaker 6: They've destroyed themselves with all the woke agenda that they've had.
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  Speaker 6: But people, even the labors though, they are coming up
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  Speaker 6: to me now and they're saying, we voted labor always
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  Speaker 6: have done, but now we're voting one nation.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned cutting spending. I mean spending is out of control.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen what's happening with inflation because the government's spending
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: too much. Business leaders are crying for less spending from
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the government. What would be the three things you'd most
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: like to take an ax to in government spending?
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  Speaker 6: The Climate Change Department, which is costing about thirty billion
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: a year. Then you've actually got the aboriginal industry is
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: now thirty to forty billion a year. Treat everyone equally
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: on an individual needs basis without the funding going to it,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: and NDIS needs a broom through it, a big broom
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: to stop the raughting and what's happening. That's at the moment.
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  Speaker 6: It's about fifty five billion a year, expected to grow
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: to one hundred billion a year by twenty thirty. These
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  Speaker 6: are just starts. Look at your government employees. Eighty percent
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  Speaker 6: of new jobs in Australia's coming from government employment jobs.
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  Speaker 6: We've got the biggest blind out number of public servants
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  Speaker 6: than any country in the world for the population that
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: we have. Andrew, there's so many things we can put
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: a room through. Look at your social security system three
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  Speaker 6: hundred billion a year that needs to clean up. People
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: have been on the welfare for twenty thirty forty years,
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: fourth and fifth generation. That needs a big clean up
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: as well. So taxes, I'd like to address the taxation
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: to reduce taxes for the australed people put more money
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: into their pockets, which will create growth.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson, that's a big agenda. It's amazing what you're
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  Speaker 1: achieving in the last year. It's incredible. Congratulations on that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you very much for having me on.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: After the break Matt Canavan. Well, like I warned last night,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: all this happy talk about the Liberals and Nationals getting
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: back together again ignored two very big problems. One, most
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Liberals want to go one way most Nationals the other.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: You know, one wants to go teal voters. One wants
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: to go for one nation ones. How do you reconcile that?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But second, Liberal leader Susan Lee says she won't take
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: back the three Nationals front benches who voted against what
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the Opposition shadow cabinet had decided, and these three voted
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: against the government's hate speech laws. But the Nationals are
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: assistingly does take back those three front benches, Susan McDonald, Bridge, McKenzie,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Ross Cadell, and today the Nationals voted to reject Lee's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: compromise on this issue that those three senators at least
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: had to serve a suspension for six months. So these
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: peace talks are going nowhere at the moment. Joining me
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: is our Tuesday regular National Senator Matt Canavan, the former
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Resources Minister, Matt Great to see you again. The Nationals
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: demands actually means forcing Susan Lee to back down and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: lose any remaining authority. She has your destroyer. She won't
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: allow it. So there's going to be no deal, is there.
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  Speaker 8: Look, I don't know, Andrew. I'm not involved in the discussions.
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: I'd like to see us step back together because so
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: I don't think there's any great policy difference between us.
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: We had a different opinion on that issue. I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: we could easily reset the process here, and I don't
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: think we should lose a kingdom for cabinet solidarity. There
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: are more important issues out there in fact, and one
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: of the important issues we were voting on was to
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: protect people's free speech. That's why I'll stand behind my
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: Center colleagues did that. They were just representing the view
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: of the entire room, and it was only to try
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: and be respectful of the Liberal Party that our House
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: ministers didn't vote in that way against it. We're giving
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: them time to consider our amendments. But look, I'm very
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: proud of the National's Party is sticking up for your viewers.
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: You're right, Andrew, to speak freely. I know you've been
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: at the tip of the spear here on these issues.
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: People should be able to speak freely in this country
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: and we'll always fight for that the Nationals Party.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but for me. The issue now is not that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it's whether you want to destroy Sus and Lee as
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the price of getting back together. That's what really comes
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: down to. So I don't think these talks are going
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: anywhere at the moment. One Nation has just picked up
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Cory Bernardi, good move.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: Well look, One Nation at the moment seems more focused
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: on personnel than policy. Corey is a good made of mine.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: Good luck to Corey. But what we need to do
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: for the Australian people is put pressure on the government
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: here in the chamber. And Paul is not here this week.
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: I know she's suspended, but it's sometimes not always. She's
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: not here always. I'm doing my job here and tomorrow
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: we might talk about later. But tomorrow I'll be moving
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: the set up an inquiry to the government's massive cost
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: budget blowouts, which have caused interest rates to go up
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: this week. Later this week I'll be introducing a bill
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: to end the ridiculous ban on nuclear energy. So those
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: are things I'm focusing on doing my job. I don't
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: think getting new people or working out who's going to
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: attract more voters is really what the Australian people want.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: So I'm going to focus on acting, but taking action
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: here in Canberra in the Senate to make people's lives better.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I think you say they shouldn't be talking just personalities.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I tell you what they'd give their kingdom to attract
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you to one nation. I know you've ruled it out,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: but gee, that would be a game changer. But to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the interest rate rise today, Matt Canavan, you touched on it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I just played at the top of the show. The
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: treasurer still blame the Coalition after nearly four years of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Labor in power. How much of the inflation rate rise
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in now the interest rate rise to find it? How
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: much of that is your fault?
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: Well, what we've seen the last year, Andrew was the
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: biggest budget blowout in our nation's history. So this inflation
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: spike right now is right at the feet of the
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: Labor Party's treasurer because it has come on the back
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: of the biggest budget blowout in our nation's history. Now, look,
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: I have said that I think we spend too much
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: money in COVID. I said that at the time, but
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: as many many years ago. Now the issue is right now.
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: The current treasurer has not only proceeded over the biggest
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: budget blowout last year, which was a fifty billion dollar
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: blowout in expenses in just six months.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. It's the biggest ever.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: The year before that he had the record he'd blow
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: on the record out before that at thirty five billion dollars,
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: and the time before that he had a thirty billion
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: dollar expenses blowout. These are the three biggest prior to
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: Jim Chalmers terms budget blow out ever. Now, if you
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: were the financial officer, the chief financial officer of a
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: private company and you'd presided over one hundred billion dollar
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: blowout and the budgeted expenses over a two year period,
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: you'd be out the back door. So the question's got
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: to be asked is why hasn't Jim Charmers resigned and
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: resigned in disgrace because this is the grossest mismanagement of
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: our nation's finances in our history. One hundred billion dollar
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: blowout in just two years, and he's got no decent
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: explanation for it whatsoever. And then now the people are
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: going to have to pay for that lack of management
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: of our nation's budget. Are the average Australian families who
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: will face an interest rate expense rise now, who face
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: high high costs of their mortgages. The average mortgage is
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: already costing an extra twenty thousand dollars a year. It's
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: going to go up for the average about one thousand
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: dollars a year more.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Now, what do you think needs to be done to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: get inflation low again? People are talking spending cuts in particular,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: what would you say are the most urgent steps that?
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: Well, it does need to start with tightening our own belt.
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: Through these past few years, almost every Australian household has
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: had to tighten their belts, but the Australian government refused
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: to show any discipline with the spending of your money.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: And because when camera spends more of your money, it
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: just means the prices and the shops go up higher
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: and you pay for it. Ultimately, that's what we're seeing happening.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: And so take one of these budget blowouts that have
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: occurred in the past year. Andrew the government established something
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: called a battery subsidy scheme. It was set to cost
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: to one point eight billion dollars originally, it's blown out
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: to twelve billion dollars in a space of six months.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: A ten billion dollar blowout. I mean, you've never seen
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: anything like this before. So that should be scrapped because
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: we can't afford to have this upper class welfare that
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: this government is presiding over that scheme budget, that battery
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: scheme is unaccessible. You buy a battery and get you
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: get a third of the price back, so that you're
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: still out of pocket roughly about ten thousand dollars to
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: get your battery. So it's a very very good deal
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: for the rich among us, for the upper class among us,
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: But the rest of us have to pay for that
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: through as I say, higher prices in the shops thanks
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: to the inflation that causes higher interest rates. Now for
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: those that are in debt to simply live in their
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: own home, they're the people who have to pay. There's
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: upper class welfare funding these boondoggle of green schemes that
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: are out of control, blowing our budget and are not
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: providing any real benefit in terms of lower energy prices
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: for the rest of us.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. Any of these batteries that I know Malcolm
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Turnbull might have in his great mansion, you and I
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: have had to pay for them, and so have all
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the viewers through the subsidies the government's offering. And by
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the way, Matt, they do not create extra electricity. They
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: store it very expensively from wind and solar, which we
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: also very expensively subsidize. It's such a boondoggle. Matt Canavan.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I know you've been finding this for ages, and I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: know I've been cheering him on for ages. Thanks very
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: much for coming on tonight. I appreciate it. After the break.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Millennia Trump's new documentary is the worst film ever made,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: say critics. So the question is why audiences actually love it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: What a very big difference of opinion there. I'll talk
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: to a man who's at the premiere and actually knows
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the real Millennia. Here's an example of how the mainstream
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: media cannot be trusted, how the cultural elite is divorced
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: from people in the street. Just look at the reviews
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of a new documentary and the wife of President Donald Trump, Milania.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: The documentary called Millennia, and Amazon boss Jeff Bezos paid
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: an extraordinary fourteen million dollars US for it. We're twenty
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: eight million of that going to Millennia Trump and what
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: critics call effectively a bribe to get in sweet with
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration. Now that already tells you I think
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: what's coming. It's been a real hate festival the Left,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: one of those two minutes hates that you get from
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: George Orways nine ninety four a real pylon. Let's all
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: unite by hating Millennia and particularly this doco about it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: In the City Morning Herald, for instance, it's been gloating
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: through the bad reviews that have been describing Millennia Trump
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: as having the face of a fist and calling the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: documentary pure endless hell. The Guardian even like in the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: movie to Zone of Interest a documentary on get this
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the Nazi who ran the Auschwitz concentration camp. Another is
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: simply call it terrible, worse than you could ever imagine,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the worst film ever. Now, this documentary is focused on
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the days before Donald Trump was sworn in as president
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: for a second time. I was actually ever seen by
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Millenia Trump herself, and so it actually gives nothing away.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It's very controlled. It's more about style and insight, although
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: there are a couple of intriguing nuggets, like this Millenia
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: coolly telling her husband she didn't watch some big moment of.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: His Hi, mister President, congratulations, did you watch it?
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: I did not, Yeah, I will see it on the news.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But go to the Rotten Tomatoes website. It's a bible
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: of mover reviews, you know, and it's got on one
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: side what the critics say and on the other side
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: what registered audience members or ordinary people say about a movie.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: And you will find just seven percent of the professional
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: movie critics liked Milania, but ninety nine percent of the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: certified audience they loved it, and the opening weekend was,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: in fact, the biggest box office recorded for a documentary.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Joining me is Sean Spicer, Donald Trump's first White House spokesman,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Sean Spicer, thanks for joining me. Critics hated Milania, the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: DOCA audience has loved it. What does that tell you?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Nothing new? Andrew? It tells me absolutely nothing new.
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: When you look at the disparity between the people who
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: actually went and saw the movie versus the left wing
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: critics at like the New York Times in Hollywood that
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: were never going to like it, nothing surprises me. I
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: was there for the premiere at the Trump Kennedy Center
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: with the President and the First Lady. The audience loved it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: I mean the amount of cheers. I'm not one of
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: those people that likes to cheer in a movie theater.
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: I feel like it's like you know who's there, but
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: we knew that the President and the First Lady were there.
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: It was very, very well received, and clearly people around
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: the country agreed. The previous record was set over a
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: decade ago. This blew through at the critics that assumed
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: that it would make about three point five million dollars
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: in its opening week. We now know it's well in
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: excess of double that seven million dollars, and it was
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: from around around the world. It was funny when the
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: First Lady welcomed us to the Trump Kennedy Center. She
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: went down into the front stage there where the screen
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: was and I didn't know what was about to happen,
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: and she started welcoming the cities. They were simulcasting it
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: around not only America, but throughout Europe at the same time.
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: So she would say, Nashville, thanks for joining us, Los Angeles,
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: thanks for joining us. And you sort of started to
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: realize it as one of the people in the theater
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: there that all of these other studios were being connected electronically.
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: And then she started to go through Europe. London, thanks
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: for being with us. I think Madrid and Paris came.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Up as well.
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: But it was sort of really amazing to be in
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: the theater as she was welcoming all of these other
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: theater goers from around the world to watch it at
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: the same time we were with her and the President.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Well, it is noted that you didn't say she welcomed Sydney.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I wonder what happened there.
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: But Sean, I'm hoping here with the time change.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Well, let's hope it's that. Sean, this stocker it presents
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a certain kind of Millennia I haven't seen. I've just
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: looked at the trailer and read the reviews as I trust,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and even those that I don't. It seems, you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: she keeps the she's very private, very guarded, very controlled.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Is that the millennia you know? Pretty much? But I'll
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: tell you what.
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: Here's the thing. I went and I brought a buddy
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: of mine who's not from Washington, DC, and we walked
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: out and I said, what did you think? He loved it?
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: And he said this was so cool. And as somebody
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: who not only has knows her, but I've been inside
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: the White House, I've been inside the residence. I saw
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: things that I hadn't seen before. I've been in Trump Tower,
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: in their residence. They really brought you inside. And this
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: is where I think the critics are missing a lot
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: of this. It's not just about her, it's about the
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: places that she brings you. You got to go inside,
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: what it was like as backstage as they were getting
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: ready for the inaugural balls in the White House, moving
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: in and back in for the first time, preparing the
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: invitations as a political junkie, Andrew and this again is
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: where the critics missed it. They focused entirely on her
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: and what she said, as opposed to the entire audience
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: experience as a political junkie, as somebody who's been to
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: all those places that's met her a bunch of times.
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: I still found it so interesting and intriguing because they
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: showed me things that I hadn't seen. And as as
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: like I said, the gentleman sitting next to me that
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: I brought he's not from Washington, he's interested in politics.
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: He was fascinated by the whole thing. And I don't
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: think critics will ever be satiated with what they see.
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: To them, it's never may be good enough. But I
• 36:01
  Speaker 10: think that if you are intrigued by the first lady,
• 36:03
  Speaker 10: intrigued by the family intrigued by the process. Even if
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: you don't like the Trumps, the idea that they bring
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: you inside this process is a once in a lifetime
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: thing that you'll never see anywhere else.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: What is she like.
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: I've always found her to be kind. She's very knowledgeable.
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: She knows more than people ever will let on about politics.
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: About her husband, she's her best She is his best
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: defender and advisor. She's funny. I mean, I enjoy her company.
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: I think she amazes and sort of overwhelms people by
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: what I believe they perceive her to be. She's a
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: very studding and beautiful woman, and I think sometimes they
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: kind of people go in thinking she's just going to
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: be a beautiful face. But she is a beautiful person
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: and a really smart person too.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Apparently she's not quite as inamate to be putin as
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: her husband. So I think she's a very interesting force
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: for good there.
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: She brings up the latter in the document by the
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: way she references that the in the at the end
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: of the dock. I don't want to give it away,
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: but she talks about all the things that she has
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: done in the first year in office, and one of
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: them is that note of Vladimir Putin, where she really
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: tries to make the case against killing and the loss
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: of life.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Well all strength through her writing arm but Trump haters.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Sean actress Ellen de Generes last year, as you will know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: said she had moved permanently to Britain with wife Portia
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: de Rossi in Australian because Donald Trump was now president
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: of the United States. She couldn't bear living in the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: same continent. But now a year later, it's reported that
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: she's coming back to the US and is apparently the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: bar of a mansion in Montecito where Harry and Mega
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Markel having fled Britain. What does that tell you?
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: And either tells me how bad Britain is. I mean,
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: and some of the concerns that people have there about
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: the First Amendment, maybe it's warranted, or that Donald Trump's
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: not as bad as she thought. Remember it's funny there's
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: all these clips of Donald Trump on her talk show.
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: I think that for a lot of these celebrities, whether
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: it's her, the folks at Saturday Night Live, so ma
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: of the other you know, comedians, slash actors and actresses,
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: they had no problem with Donald Trump before he got elected.
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: He was their buddy. They love to have fun with
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: the guy, and the second he gets elected, it's the
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: cool thing. We saw this last night. I didn't watch
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: the Grammys, but I saw a bunch of the clips.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: They are so reflexively, have trumped arrangement syndome. They'll go
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: at anything. But it says to me that at its core,
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: what all these people say is just a line of bs.
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: I mean, she says that she wanted to move so
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: to all these other actors, but at the end of
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: the day, they always come home, or they never leave
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: in the first place, because it was a line, railway
• 39:00
  Speaker 10: line to appease their left wing bodies and nothing more
• 39:03
  Speaker 10: than that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Well, he interesting to see if she dares show her
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: face for a little while in the US. Shawn sposa,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me. You got Andrew
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: after the break. China is building a sixth base on Antarctica.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: That's twice as many as we have when it's in
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: our backyard. What is China really up to? An expert warns, now,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: there's been such an almighty fuss about the United States
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: want in Greenland, but who is noticing what China is
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: quietly doing in Antarctica, the opposite end of the world.
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  Speaker 1: China is fast increasing its footprint on that continent. It's
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  Speaker 1: been building stations on this huge icy place to our south,
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  Speaker 1: as well as a landing places and a permanent airfield.
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  Speaker 1: Two years ago it opened its fifth station there, a
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  Speaker 1: big one on the Rossya coast with room for eighty people,
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  Speaker 1: and now it's already building a sixth station in the
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  Speaker 1: Marie Birdland region. Australia has three stations in the continent,
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  Speaker 1: which is by the way, as virtue our back of
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  Speaker 1: the yard, as it were, China, which is much further away,
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  Speaker 1: will have twice that. Many China's ambassadors don't worry, donvericit
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  Speaker 1: of claims that China's using these bases to spy or
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  Speaker 1: for military purposes. That's all banned under the Antarctic Treaty.
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  Speaker 1: China's efforts in research on Antargotic as purely for scientific purposes.
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  Speaker 1: But China has said it's going to be drilling underneath that.
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  Speaker 1: I used to see what's there for research purposes only,
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  Speaker 1: of course, joining Miza Marie Brady, professor of political science
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  Speaker 1: at the University of Canterbury and New Zealand and an
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  Speaker 1: expert on Chinese and Antarctic politics. Amory Brady, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. I've admired a lot of your running
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  Speaker 1: for a long long time. What is China up to
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  Speaker 1: in Antarctica and why in particular so many research stations?
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  Speaker 9: Oh, good evening.
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  Speaker 11: Well, China has been spending a lot of money in
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  Speaker 11: recent years.
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  Speaker 9: They've slowed down a bit actually since cheating pen Cave
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  Speaker 9: to power.
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  Speaker 11: They had a very big boost for about ten to
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  Speaker 11: fifteen years and expanded their presence in Antara.
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  Speaker 9: And they did what the Soviets did too.
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  Speaker 11: When a Tata opened up to setting up bases when
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  Speaker 11: touched pretty assignment fifty nine, they bad spots. They grabbed
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  Speaker 11: spots at great locations and.
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  Speaker 9: Then sometimes took quite a while to develop the basis.
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  Speaker 11: Has now they're also apart from those spaces that they
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  Speaker 11: now have, they have full the independent air, THEA and
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  Speaker 11: land capacity in Antape. They have two icebreakers, they have helicopters,
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  Speaker 11: they have a plane. They have the capacity to go
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  Speaker 11: deep into the anti hinterland in the Australian and anti territory,
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  Speaker 11: which Australia itself doesn't have. So they've got really advanced
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  Speaker 11: capabilities that had a.
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  Speaker 9: Lot more money than anyone else than on antip.
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  Speaker 1: But what could it be possibly doing now it says
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  Speaker 1: it's doing all these cuddly things. We're researching global warming,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at ice corese looking at nature and sweet
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  Speaker 1: little things like that. What could it actually be doing? Well?
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  Speaker 9: China wants to be uphole the great power.
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  Speaker 11: The art and Antarctic are very useful for the Great
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  Speaker 11: powers for military purposes. And people have suddenly noticed that
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  Speaker 11: with Greenland and you know, if you grew up in
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  Speaker 11: the Cold War era like I did, the missiles in
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  Speaker 11: the artic.
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  Speaker 9: And talks over nuclear missiles was a big feature of
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  Speaker 9: that era.
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  Speaker 11: China also looked at and in the sixties as as
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  Speaker 11: a location for.
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  Speaker 9: Transiting missiles against the United States.
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  Speaker 11: That was a US and Chinese scientists who released information
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  Speaker 11: on that from documents from Chinese archives. China's understood the
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  Speaker 11: military significance about taker and the art for a long time.
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  Speaker 11: They didn't have the capacity for decades, it didn't have
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  Speaker 11: the resources to hear anything about it.
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  Speaker 9: And they're doing what other powers in the in the do.
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  Speaker 11: They can use science for dual use purposes, so trying
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  Speaker 11: it can operate in the articants Bilbard.
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  Speaker 9: And they can operate in that part anywhere they want to.
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  Speaker 9: They are able to set up a base and then
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  Speaker 9: they can.
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  Speaker 11: Do deep space research that can be used for miss
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  Speaker 11: observing missile launchers. They can set up fatal ground stations
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  Speaker 11: that are important is very important military technology for global
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  Speaker 11: navigation systems and so on. So there's a lot that
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  Speaker 11: they can be done that can be also claimed as science.
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  Speaker 11: And also the anti tree doesn't prohibit the military completely.
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  Speaker 11: It says it can be used for peaceful purposes or
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  Speaker 11: peaceful use, and what is peaceful use can be.
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  Speaker 9: In the eye of the beholder.
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  Speaker 11: So recently the US State Department issued an announcement that
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  Speaker 11: the U is gone and done a base and see
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  Speaker 11: and that's the first time they've done.
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  Speaker 9: Is to challenge that kind stop with two things are.
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  Speaker 3: Going on.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely and listen, China is into power, it's into asserting itself.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust what it's doing there for one second.
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  Speaker 1: Emory Brady. I urge people to follow your writings to
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  Speaker 1: be clued into what's really going on. Amory Brady, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I have to tell you the whole power politics in
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: this world. You know, it's like Australia's little naive babe
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: in the woods, you know, expecting everyone will do the
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: right thing. In fact we got Well, we're getting a
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: very visual reminder that the world is not that cuddly,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that it is on the brink forever of war at
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the moment on so many fronts. The World Cup, the
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: International Cricket Council's World Cup, you know, the twenty twenty,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the International twenty twenty competition. It starts in India this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And now already we've had Bangladesh being Muslim, India Hindu
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  Speaker 1: under a very Hindu nationalist kind of leader. Bangladesha said
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  Speaker 1: it's not coming, it's not coming. They won't play in India,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: not safe or whatever. It's been swapped out for Scotland.
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  Speaker 1: Now the ICC looks like losing the biggest match of
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the tournament, the most lucrative one, the one that will
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: be watched by millions and millions of people, Pakistan versus India,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: because Pakistan says, no, we're not going to allow our
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: team to play India in India. It's complicated, but these
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: are two countries that were at war only what a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: year ago. Whatever, this is amazing. Now you've got to ask, oh, well,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: you know what if there's a if it just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and they split the points, fine, what happens
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: if there's a final between India and Pakistan? What happens then?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for such petty reasons, well so called petty reasons.
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  Speaker 1: You can see, these are two countries daggers drawn, and
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: who can rule out another war between those two? Just
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: one more thing about how naive we been. You tend
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: to think we'll just you know, you see a Bondai massacre,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: you see people acting really badly towards Jews, and people
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: will think, oh, that's terrible, and we'll all agree that
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: shouldn't happen again. Well, police in Victoria have just arrested
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a twenty three year old an employee at Melbourne at
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Melbourne Airport who allegedly allegedly performed a Nazi salute in
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: front of Jewish children on Monday yesterday. Can you believe it,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: after all this someone would allegedly do such a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Nazi salutes are now prohibited in Victoria. So he will
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: face court and we shall see with great interest something
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: about who this particular person is. I'd very much like
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: to know anyway, that is that for me. Coming up
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  Speaker 1: next is Sharry, hosted once again by the most excellent
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: James McPherson. But for me it is good night.