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Sweethearts and Heroes - Jay Cummings · Aired Out

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Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday. It is hump Day, Sweethearts and Heroes Day,
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Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to Jay Cummings here in just
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Speaker 2: a little bit. First though, Deb Phillips on the line
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Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Details on the forecast coming up in
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Speaker 2: just a little bit. I can tell you though, that
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Speaker 2: we do have some showers that are moving through Central
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Speaker 2: from out right now, and some of them, what I'm hearing,
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Speaker 2: are packing a pretty good punch. Also got a note
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Speaker 2: this morning from the City of Barry. There's some stress
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Speaker 2: with the in and out of the Granite city right
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Speaker 2: now because of the planned water main upgrades on Spaulding Street.
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Speaker 2: Water service is going to be interrupted during working hours
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Speaker 2: on Thursday, that would be tomorrow, to complete the upgrades
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Speaker 2: in a couple of different locations. This outage is only
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Speaker 2: going to impact customers on Spaulding Street between Washington Street
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Speaker 2: page as well, getting the information out there. But please
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Speaker 2: exercise some caution and some patients, as we've been pushing
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Speaker 2: every morning. The traffic in and out of the Granite
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Speaker 2: City right now is pretty intense and there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of going around this side street and that side street.
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Speaker 2: Just be careful. This morning, I have a guy on
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Speaker 2: the air with me who I've never met, but man,
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Speaker 2: another one that Tom Murphy over at Sweethearts and Heroes
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Speaker 2: sings the praises of Jay Cummings. A very good morning
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Speaker 2: to you, my friend. Nice to meet you so much
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Speaker 2: here virtually through the internet. It's nice to have you on, man.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: Jay, Well, thank you so much for having me on.
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Speaker 4: It's a pleasure to be here today.
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Speaker 2: Man, I have heard so much about you. First, tell
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Speaker 2: our listeners a little bit about you, who you are
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Speaker 2: and where you are.
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Speaker 4: Well. I am in Saint Albans, Vermont this morning, where
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Speaker 4: I work at a local bank, and I don't know
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Speaker 4: the story of Jay Cummings is kind of a long
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Speaker 4: and checkered one. But I guess the highlights would be
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Speaker 4: I'm a seventh generation for Mantor and my daughter's number eight.
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Speaker 4: And you know that in three bucks, I'll get you
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Speaker 4: a coffee over at McDon over at Duncan Donuts.
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Speaker 2: So listen for monors, love for manors, and love hearing
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Speaker 2: folks on the air that that are dialed into our
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Speaker 2: state firsthand. And you are you're you're where you're up
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Speaker 2: and where Saint.
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Speaker 4: Albans st Albans, correct, Yeah, the VP.
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Speaker 2: And business development officer over at People's.
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Speaker 4: Bank, People's Trust Company Bank. Yeah, that's correct.
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Speaker 2: Wow. So how are you connected with sweethearts and heroes?
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Speaker 2: I know it was as as Leon and Tom say,
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Speaker 2: you go way way way back to the beginning. You
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Speaker 2: saw one presentation and that was it for you.
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Speaker 4: That that was That's pretty much the synapsis that happened. Uh,
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Speaker 4: And I actually met Tom prior to that. Our two
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Speaker 4: businesses did a little bit of work together. And when
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Speaker 4: you meet Tom for the first time, it's intense, it's
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Speaker 4: it's yeah, he is a big personality. And to be
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Speaker 4: honest with you, I don't even know if I should
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Speaker 4: say this on the air, but I am an open book.
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Speaker 4: I didn't even really like him. I was like, Wow,
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Speaker 4: who is this guy? And he's larger than life And
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Speaker 4: it didn't take long for him to convert me over
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Speaker 4: to the to the good side. It was my own
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Speaker 4: insecurity's probably coming out. But we've been great friends for
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Speaker 4: god fifteen years, maybe twenty, I'm not sure, but yeah,
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Speaker 4: for some reason in conversations that you have with Tom,
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Speaker 4: and those conversations are always intriguing and diving into meanings
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Speaker 4: of things and how the brain reacts and how you think.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what happened first, but I found myself
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Speaker 4: sitting in what I call one of his feature presentations
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Speaker 4: that's about an hour and a half hour forty five,
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Speaker 4: and I was blown away. That was one of the
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Speaker 4: most meaningful and impactful things I've ever seen in my life.
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Speaker 4: And so I go home and tell my wife, the
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Speaker 4: school teacher, about what I've seen and the impact on
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Speaker 4: school age children, and she kind of nodded her head
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Speaker 4: and said, yeah, you know, that sounded good. So what
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Speaker 4: I needed for my next step was outside verification from authority.
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Speaker 4: So I somehow got my wife to go to the
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Speaker 4: next one for her, you know, her evaluation of a
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Speaker 4: person in the industry, right, yeah, you know.
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Speaker 2: And here I am wearing a free Hugs shirt every Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: I try to remember to wear the shirt. Sometimes it
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Speaker 2: gets a little stinky, but listen, you got to throw
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Speaker 2: it on and it. Do you have one of these shirts?
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Speaker 4: Jay, I do, and I got a couple of them,
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Speaker 4: and I can't pull it off the way you and
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Speaker 4: the way you and Tom do. I weren't on a
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Speaker 4: trip once, uh, and walking through airports, I just got
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Speaker 4: a bunch of funny looks.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you you after you saw a presentation
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Speaker 2: where Tom of course, Uh. He's always wearing the free
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Speaker 2: Hugs shirt and always talking about the power of a
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Speaker 2: hug in embrace and how effective it is in releasing
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Speaker 2: oxy codon or oxy uh ox dose it my god,
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Speaker 2: And he's so he's so emphatic with everything that he delivers.
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Speaker 2: But man, what he's what he says, the power behind
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Speaker 2: a hug is just incredible. And it doesn't always have
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Speaker 2: to be someone that you know.
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Speaker 4: It.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you see someone if you're out man,
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Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, maybe ask permission. My wife
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Speaker 2: does it all the time. She'll get talking with it
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Speaker 2: with a stranger and she'll be she'll feel some connection
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Speaker 2: and she'll be like, you know what, I'd like to
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Speaker 2: give you a hug? Is that all right?
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Speaker 4: That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: We need more of that, though, Jay, I think I agree.
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Speaker 4: I agree, And I've traveled a little bit with Tom,
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Speaker 4: and I think he's just so natural with it. And again,
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Speaker 4: you know, here's this giant, six foot four piece of
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Speaker 4: muscle walking around and it's so disproportionate to many people
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Speaker 4: that I've watched complete strangers men just walk up to
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Speaker 4: him and say, I'll take one of those. And I
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Speaker 4: don't know, maybe I just don't admit that that inviting
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Speaker 4: enzyme or the or to invite hugs and and but Tom,
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Speaker 4: I've always admired how in the maral where you go,
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Speaker 4: no matter who it is, they just they roll right
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Speaker 4: into his arms.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. Now, you after you went to a
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Speaker 2: couple of presentations, you started to advocate for sweethearts and
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Speaker 2: heroes and at the beginning of the beginning and you
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Speaker 2: were You're going to school board meetings saying, look, you
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Speaker 2: got to get this guy into your school. Just trust
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Speaker 2: me here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of a nut like that. When I
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Speaker 4: get hold of something, I feel the need to go
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Speaker 4: share it. You know, things don't happen unless something happens,
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Speaker 4: and I'm the guy that one of the people in
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Speaker 4: the world that will go out and spread the word,
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Speaker 4: and you know, and so I would actually just start
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Speaker 4: showing up at school board meetings and I'm going on
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Speaker 4: the computer trying to find whose meeting when, and I'd
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Speaker 4: go sit there and I'd make a pitch about Sweethearts
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Speaker 4: in here. Tom never asked me to do any of this,
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Speaker 4: and half the time, I don't even know if he
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Speaker 4: knew I was doing it. And so I was trying
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Speaker 4: my best because I was really moved by that because
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you know, he's saving lives. Literally,
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Speaker 4: it's not hyperbole. It is an absolute fact. And I've
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Speaker 4: probably seen twelve or fifteen, maybe twenty of these presentations,
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Speaker 4: and I can tell you with a complete certainty that
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Speaker 4: each and every one of his presentations he is saving lives.
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Speaker 4: And if you don't mind, I'll indulge you a little
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Speaker 4: bit on that when I I've had the Bank sponsor
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Speaker 4: a couple in some schools, and I've had some other
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Speaker 4: people sponsor his uh stuff in schools, and so when
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Speaker 4: I go, I like sitting right in the middle of
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Speaker 4: the pack, just to get a feel of what the
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Speaker 4: kids are. They're dialed into it and stuff like that.
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Speaker 4: And like my wife says, when you're doing like that
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Speaker 4: eighth grade ninth grade group, if you can get them
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Speaker 4: to sit still and listen for ninety minutes, you've got
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Speaker 4: something incredibly Like a lot of administrators. When Tom says
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Speaker 4: I need an hour forty five, he's like, they look
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Speaker 4: at him and say you're gonna lose him at fifteen minutes.
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Speaker 4: And the administrators come back the same way I do. Right,
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Speaker 4: So what I like to do I sit in the middle.
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Speaker 4: I watched the They're hanging on his every word JD
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Speaker 4: like you could hear a mouse pee on a cotton
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Speaker 4: ball at fifty feet during one of Tom's present because
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Speaker 4: they are all dialed in. But here's the key of
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Speaker 4: why I back up my claim of life saving. So
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Speaker 4: at the end, a bunch of kids rush the stage
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Speaker 4: with Murphy and they all want to have their picture
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Speaker 4: taken with the mister muscleman Mma fighters so and then
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Speaker 4: right game on and then if you're if you're and
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Speaker 4: I like to stand way back I don't want to
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Speaker 4: be any part of that. I just want to watch.
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Speaker 4: And if you're watching intently, you'll see one, two, three
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Speaker 4: kids off to the side. They don't have smiles on
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Speaker 4: their faces, right. They're not going up to take a
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Speaker 4: picture with the MMA fighter. They want to go have
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Speaker 4: a conversation because something Tom has said has struck with
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Speaker 4: them incredibly at a level that they've never heard before.
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Speaker 4: And so what I call I call them the lingerers.
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Speaker 4: They wait for all the fanfare to go away, and
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Speaker 4: then they very very politely and quietly, and one on
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Speaker 4: one they walk up and they tell Tom the story. Now,
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Speaker 4: at this point, I've given them all the privacy in
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Speaker 4: the world that I'm at the complete other end, the
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Speaker 4: farthest I can be away from that auditorium, because I
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Speaker 4: want that interaction to happen, and that's where Tom hears stories. Like,
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Speaker 4: mister Murphy, I was planning on killing myself after school today.
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Speaker 4: Your presentation made me rethink that there is hope. I mean,
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Speaker 4: it's absolutely incredible, and why you wouldn't want this in
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Speaker 4: your school is beyond me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you and I are going to have a
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Speaker 2: conversation about that in just a little bit here, and
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you more about that. But Jay,
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Speaker 2: we've had several teen suicides in our communities over the
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Speaker 2: last year. And when I say our communities we're talking,
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Speaker 2: I'm what I'm referencing is from Rutland right up here
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Speaker 2: into central Vermont, including one last week seventh grader at
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Speaker 2: one of our local schools just down the road here,
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Speaker 2: a school that I have been trying very hard, at
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Speaker 2: least on Wednesday mornings while I'm on the air, to
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Speaker 2: get Sweethearts and Heroes into that school, not just Berry
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Speaker 2: City Middle and Elementary School, but also Barry Town School
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Speaker 2: and Spaulding High School. It has yet to happen. I've
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Speaker 2: reached out to Tom about this, and Tom is Tom
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Speaker 2: doesn't like to go and try to push his stuff
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Speaker 2: onto a school, but rather respectfully wait for them to
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Speaker 2: reach out to him first. They've got to they've got
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Speaker 2: to get a sample of what Sweethearts and Heroes does,
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Speaker 2: who they are, what they do, and just in the
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Speaker 2: name Sweethearts and Heroes doesn't doesn't give a clear definition
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Speaker 2: of what it is. There's a little bit of a
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Speaker 2: barrier I think that needs to be penetrated here, and
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any advice or any
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Speaker 2: suggestions to our local superintendent, school administrators, teachers, parents, what
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Speaker 2: has to happen.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in some respects with me going to
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Speaker 4: school board meetings unannounced in certain cases probably had the
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Speaker 4: opposite effect of what I was hoping for, because I
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Speaker 4: know a lot of folks in that level of management
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Speaker 4: don't like it being, you know, told what to do
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Speaker 4: or told what's a good idea they got to come
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Speaker 4: from them. So I really backed off on that strategy
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Speaker 4: and try to utilize other strategies of getting Tom into
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Speaker 4: schools or businesses. And in fact, you guys have probably
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Speaker 4: spoke about it at great length about how Chevrolet has
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Speaker 4: stepped up to the plate. Yeah, so one of the first, one.
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Speaker 2: Of the first reasons, and you were you were a
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Speaker 2: huge part of that.
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Speaker 4: I was a small part of that. I probably had
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Speaker 4: one of the more difficult parts, which was calling the
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Speaker 4: schools to let them know that Chevrolet has sponsored Sweethearts
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Speaker 4: and hero in their school and so they just got
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Speaker 4: a many thousand dollars grant to do this, because that
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Speaker 4: was the first objection that schools always say is, you know,
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Speaker 4: we don't have the money for that, and then, so
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Speaker 4: we removed that barrier to entry by having Chevy step
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Speaker 4: up and pay for it. And even then, you'd be surprised, JD,
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Speaker 4: the number of people that said thanks and no thanks,
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Speaker 4: And even I got hung up on a few times,
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Speaker 4: which you know, for me as a business development guy,
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Speaker 4: I accepted as a challenge more than a no. So
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Speaker 4: and I'll have that person that did hang up on me,
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Speaker 4: I did win her over in the end.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I love that. It's fantastic.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how long Sweethearts and Heroes has brought
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Speaker 2: in praded and brought in the circle experience into the schools,
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Speaker 2: but it is probably one of the biggest things that
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Speaker 2: they're hanging their hat on right now. What in your opinion,
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Speaker 2: in your your your vision, what is circle trainings? And
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Speaker 2: I know that you've you've been trained. You actually took
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Speaker 2: some time off from your vacation to get trained in circle.
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Speaker 4: What is that? So the lead up to that, JD
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Speaker 4: is here. I am a giant fan of Tom's feature presentation.
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Speaker 4: And then he tells me one day, you know, we've
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Speaker 4: had the circle discussion. And then he tells me one day,
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Speaker 4: if push came to shove and I never did another
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Speaker 4: feature presentation. I think circle training is even more meaningful
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Speaker 4: than the feature presentation. Now, the feature presentation is still
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Speaker 4: phenomenally good, but maybe it would help. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Did you ever hear the origination of how Tom really
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Speaker 4: invented circle training?
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Speaker 2: I have not.
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Speaker 4: And there's a couple of little spokes off this wagon wheel,
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Speaker 4: and I'll try to be as brief as I can,
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Speaker 4: but succinct. I went and did a circle training with
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Speaker 4: an organization near me, and one of the ladies at
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Speaker 4: the organization was a teacher, and when she heard circle,
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Speaker 4: her eyes rolled and I could see her body language.
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Speaker 4: She had checked out because there are other people doing
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Speaker 4: circles and it has nothing to do with a Tom
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Speaker 4: Murphy circle training. And at the end of the full
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Speaker 4: day training, she came up to me and confessed, you know,
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Speaker 4: I rolled my eyes and this was nothing like what
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Speaker 4: it was supposed to be. Now, Murphy's circle training started many,
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Speaker 4: many years ago, probably fifteen years ago, when he was
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Speaker 4: going into schools. He'd go do his future presentation and
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Speaker 4: the principal superintendent said thanks for coming, see you later,
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Speaker 4: and Tom's like, no, you paid for the day, and
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Speaker 4: they're like oh, I don't know what to do. And
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Speaker 4: then one day a principal took him up on it
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Speaker 4: and said, hey, I need you to talk to the
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Speaker 4: cheerleaders because there's a situation going on right now. They're
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Speaker 4: not feeling great. So he goes and meets with the
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Speaker 4: cheerleaders and they confess on how they're angry and annoyed
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Speaker 4: and insulted that the football team has been talking smack
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Speaker 4: about them and not treating them appropriately. And they go
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Speaker 4: to the games for the football kids, the players, and
23:39
Speaker 4: they're like, look, we're here for you. Why are you
23:41
Speaker 4: giving us flack on this? So Tom goes back to
23:45
Speaker 4: the principal and says, hey, I need to talk to
23:46
Speaker 4: the football team next. And the Principal's like, wow, you
23:49
Speaker 4: know whatever. So he meets with the football players explains
23:52
Speaker 4: the situations. Football teams are mortified that the girls are
23:57
Speaker 4: insulted and angry. They thought they were being charged me
24:00
Speaker 4: and you know, dumb boy Q. So you know what
24:03
Speaker 4: those the football team does at the next I'm geting
24:08
Speaker 4: joked up. And this was fifteen years ago. At the
24:10
Speaker 4: next football game, they have the girls run through the
24:13
Speaker 4: tunnel of the tape. Whoa football team goes out and
24:16
Speaker 4: does a cheer for the cheerleaders to set the record straight.
24:23
Speaker 4: Those kids were locked like that for the rest. They're
24:26
Speaker 4: probably best friends today and I'm sure half of them
24:30
Speaker 4: have are married with children and they still because of
24:33
Speaker 4: that moment in high school. And that's kind of how
24:36
Speaker 4: Tom's circle kind of got invented, is talking to these
24:39
Speaker 4: kids and when he sat them down in a small
24:42
Speaker 4: group where everybody has to say, there's no hierarchy, there's
24:46
Speaker 4: no boss, there's no student, everybody's equal, everybody's respected. You
24:50
Speaker 4: pass the talking stick around the circle, and you can't
24:53
Speaker 4: talk until you have the talking stick. And with most
24:57
Speaker 4: groups there's always a higher influencer and a shire kid.
25:01
Speaker 4: But when you remove that and level the playing field
25:04
Speaker 4: and everybody gets to talk uninterrupted, you can't say boom
25:08
Speaker 4: unless you have the stick. Now you're forced to listen
25:13
Speaker 4: to hear, and not just waiting for your turn to
25:16
Speaker 4: say something without listening. And that was a game changer
25:21
Speaker 4: for sweethearts and heroes.
25:24
Speaker 2: What a story that is. I I'm so glad you
25:27
Speaker 2: shared that. You know, what it's about is just making
25:33
Speaker 2: sure that, like you said, we're all on a level
25:36
Speaker 2: playing field here. It's just basic communication. And when we
25:40
Speaker 2: don't have it, things break down quickly. There's assumptions, there's misunderstandings,
25:45
Speaker 2: we get feelings involved. And that was destroyed. All of
25:51
Speaker 2: that was destroyed. Tom kind of organically put everything in
25:56
Speaker 2: place to make sure that it ended.
26:01
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, pretty amazing stuff.
26:04
Speaker 2: Wow.
26:06
Speaker 4: And so and you know Murphy that he doesn't just
26:08
Speaker 4: take a good idea and run with it. He continues
26:11
Speaker 4: to research and research and research. And the guy reads
26:14
Speaker 4: I think one hundred books a year, books on tape
26:17
Speaker 4: because he spends so much time behind the wheel traveling
26:19
Speaker 4: from school to school.
26:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has.
26:22
Speaker 4: Science upon science upon I'm sure someday somebody is going
26:27
Speaker 4: to some college is going to give him an honorary
26:30
Speaker 4: doctorate for his work on psychology and how the mind
26:35
Speaker 4: works someday, because he's his education, self taught, I think
26:40
Speaker 4: is greater than anyone that has gotten there, my master's
26:45
Speaker 4: or a doctor.
26:46
Speaker 2: In that environment, Murphy in the car for a couple
26:50
Speaker 2: of hours when he's got the time to kill and
26:53
Speaker 2: he's on the phone with you.
26:56
Speaker 4: He is.
26:58
Speaker 2: Not always the east Is experience, but man, he is
27:05
Speaker 2: just I mean, I've never I've never not had a
27:09
Speaker 2: conversation with Tom that has inspired me to do more,
27:16
Speaker 2: do better. And there's something really powerful about that guy.
27:20
Speaker 2: The things that he says tend to crawl around in
27:25
Speaker 2: my head not just for the rest of the day,
27:26
Speaker 2: but for the rest of the week. And I don't
27:30
Speaker 2: know about you, but man, I'm I'm a paper guy,
27:35
Speaker 2: and when I've been on the phone with Tom, I'm
27:38
Speaker 2: off and pulling over and finding something to scribble on
27:42
Speaker 2: the name of some book or some quote that he's got.
27:47
Speaker 2: You're not in your head, You've done the same thing,
27:50
Speaker 2: I'm guessing.
27:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's where I get most of my books
27:54
Speaker 4: on tape. Ideas to listen to is from something that
27:57
Speaker 4: he's said. Yeah, it's almost like talking to an AI
28:03
Speaker 4: bought about you know, whatever that topic is. He's so
28:07
Speaker 4: he's researched it at such depth and he knows which
28:11
Speaker 4: parts are relevant to whatever the conversation or the issue are.
28:15
Speaker 2: The answer I got to ask him in what was
28:18
Speaker 2: the magic pill for you in losing fifty pounds?
28:28
Speaker 4: It's it's again right in with that psychological realm. So
28:36
Speaker 4: I have a at the bank. I host a bunch
28:39
Speaker 4: of educational seminars and most of them are business related,
28:42
Speaker 4: and some are just good for the community, you know,
28:45
Speaker 4: just for example. You know, they're not all self serving, right,
28:47
Speaker 4: So we've done women's only self defense, you know. Once
28:51
Speaker 4: I got to do with banking absolutely nothing, but it's
28:53
Speaker 4: good for the community. So my bank supports all of
28:56
Speaker 4: that stuff. I have Murphy come in January fourth or
29:01
Speaker 4: fifth to do instead of doing a New Year's resolution.
29:05
Speaker 4: In this case, it did ended up by weight loss,
29:09
Speaker 4: but it was engineered as goal setting. So if you
29:13
Speaker 4: can imagine knowing Tom the way you know Tom, if
29:16
Speaker 4: you went to a goal setting workshop with him. It
29:20
Speaker 4: was the largest workshop we've ever hosted here at the bank.
29:25
Speaker 4: We've got a conference room or a meeting room upstairs
29:27
Speaker 4: that can seat one hundred people. We had one hundred people.
29:32
Speaker 4: My largest crowd next to that was sixty five. So
29:36
Speaker 4: just to give you some perspective of his draw on
29:39
Speaker 4: that topic and on Tom Murphy, So within that he
29:42
Speaker 4: goes through all the science of how your brain works
29:44
Speaker 4: and what it does and what it doesn't do, and
29:45
Speaker 4: then he says, if you're really serious about something, you
29:47
Speaker 4: can set a goal, and I got a pretty good
29:50
Speaker 4: way to make sure that you achieved that and so
29:53
Speaker 4: I raised my hand and said, hey, I'm gaming. He says,
29:55
Speaker 4: what's your goal? I said, I want to lose fifty pounds.
29:58
Speaker 4: So what it is. It's called the Ulysses Challenge. And
30:03
Speaker 4: there's a nice story about that and that I won't
30:07
Speaker 4: go into detail because I think it'll take away for
30:09
Speaker 4: I don't know it as well to tell it well enough.
30:12
Speaker 4: But essentially I'll give you what happens and you'll figure
30:15
Speaker 4: out the power behind it. And Rick actually did this
30:21
Speaker 4: prior to me. And essentially what it is is you
30:25
Speaker 4: make a bet, and you're in charge of the bet,
30:28
Speaker 4: and you pick a punishment that you absolutely do not
30:35
Speaker 4: want to do, and then but you're in control of it.
30:39
Speaker 4: So my punishment was I didn't want to donate to
30:42
Speaker 4: a particular party of politics, so I wrote a check
30:47
Speaker 4: to this particular politician that I want nothing to do with.
30:51
Speaker 4: And I'm opposite him.
30:52
Speaker 2: This is going way below the belt here, Jay.
30:56
Speaker 4: But what Murphy says, are you are you serious about
31:00
Speaker 4: doing it or just talking? So I write, I think
31:03
Speaker 4: it was a thousand dollars check to this politician, and
31:06
Speaker 4: I hand it to Murphy and he puts it in
31:08
Speaker 4: an envelope and there's no stamp on it, and it
31:12
Speaker 4: basically says, Jay, if you don't lose fifty pounds by
31:17
Speaker 4: May first, the envelope goes in the mail. So, needless
31:23
Speaker 4: to say, I was motivated. Wow. And so what it
31:27
Speaker 4: did is it put everything that I stuffed in my
31:29
Speaker 4: pie hole in the front of my mind instead of
31:33
Speaker 4: later on. And my analogy for simplicity examples is every
31:41
Speaker 4: time I go to the grocery store, I don't think
31:43
Speaker 4: about my recycled, my reusable grocery totes until i'm I
31:48
Speaker 4: got my items on the belt and I need the
31:52
Speaker 4: bag then and I'm like, damn, I left him in
31:54
Speaker 4: the car. And that's how my life was around eating
31:58
Speaker 4: is after I eat, it is when I want to
32:01
Speaker 4: stop eating and loose weight. So I had to put
32:04
Speaker 4: it at the front of the transaction and not at
32:07
Speaker 4: the end. And I'll tell you what, it worked beautifully
32:11
Speaker 4: and I exceeded the goal just to be sure, and
32:14
Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun.
32:16
Speaker 2: You exceeded the goal, Yeah, how many pounds you lose?
32:21
Speaker 4: Well, actually, I think the goal was twenty five or
32:24
Speaker 4: thirty and I ended up doing fifty.
32:27
Speaker 2: Keeping it off.
32:30
Speaker 4: I'm sad to say no it.
32:32
Speaker 2: Should have been another check written.
32:36
Speaker 4: I think it only works once.
32:40
Speaker 2: Listen, but it did.
32:43
Speaker 4: You know, you learn a lot mentally too, And I
32:46
Speaker 4: did keep it off for quite a while. I really
32:49
Speaker 4: got back into sports, and so while while some of
32:52
Speaker 4: the weight did creep back on, not all of it.
32:56
Speaker 4: You know, I am very, very active and fairly healthy
33:00
Speaker 4: for the ripe old age of sixty two.
33:04
Speaker 2: I want I want to ask you Jay, what you're
33:08
Speaker 2: saying to it. And I want to get back to
33:11
Speaker 2: this a little bit. We we touched on it briefly,
33:14
Speaker 2: but I want to kind of hammer on this a
33:16
Speaker 2: little bit more. And I'm getting a message here. It's
33:23
Speaker 2: back to UH, the the mental health of all of us,
33:30
Speaker 2: but especially our youth. It's not just here in Central
33:38
Speaker 2: Vermont where we've had some some really devastating experiences lately,
33:49
Speaker 2: UH with with regard to suicide. There's so many other
33:53
Speaker 2: communities here and Vermont, far beyond our borders. What do
34:00
Speaker 2: you say to an administrator, a superintendent, the decision makers
34:13
Speaker 2: that haven't yet discovered sweethearts and heroes if you could
34:21
Speaker 2: speak to them right now, or or parents that are
34:25
Speaker 2: not familiar with what sweethearts and Heroes is this. This
34:30
Speaker 2: is an organization that's now so massive, and it's rooted.
34:33
Speaker 2: It started right here and from up in St Albans
34:37
Speaker 2: where you are right now. But what do you say
34:40
Speaker 2: to these decision makers who are not familiar yet with
34:45
Speaker 2: sweethearts and heroes, And if they become familiar, we all
34:51
Speaker 2: look for ways and reasons why we can't do something,
34:56
Speaker 2: why we're hesitant to incorporate something new into our lives,
35:02
Speaker 2: into our schools. What do you say?
35:07
Speaker 4: So for me, as a person in sales, I try
35:13
Speaker 4: to do some critical observation to try to identify real
35:19
Speaker 4: where that person's objective or objection is. In some cases,
35:25
Speaker 4: if it's money or they're questioning the value, I will
35:29
Speaker 4: tell the administrator. If it's not everything I've promised it
35:32
Speaker 4: to be, I will buy it back from you, so
35:35
Speaker 4: it's money back guarantee. So if money is the objection,
35:38
Speaker 4: we can get rid of that. The rest of them,
35:43
Speaker 4: I think it's like trying to get a haircut over
35:45
Speaker 4: the phone. I can explain what it is, but until
35:49
Speaker 4: you see it for the first time, you really don't
35:53
Speaker 4: have any idea what it is. And I think some
35:56
Speaker 4: of my best conversions in that space is and it
36:02
Speaker 4: seems very basic, but I think it's probably the most powerful.
36:05
Speaker 4: One is get a school official to talk to another
36:09
Speaker 4: school official who has seen it. So again, similar to
36:13
Speaker 4: what I did when I got on board and I
36:15
Speaker 4: loved it. I had my wife, the expert, go see
36:17
Speaker 4: it and is it everything I think it is. I
36:21
Speaker 4: have teachers and principals speak to other teachers and principles
36:25
Speaker 4: and other districts that have had the presentation there, and
36:29
Speaker 4: they speak the language. You know.
36:35
Speaker 2: I have to say this because it's I'm feeling it
36:40
Speaker 2: right now and unfiltered here. I just there's part of
36:47
Speaker 2: me that feels strongly that the suicide of this young lady,
36:57
Speaker 2: this seventh grader here in self from aunt could have been,
37:04
Speaker 2: would have been, would have been prevented if sweethearts and
37:15
Speaker 2: heroes had the chance to get into that school and
37:22
Speaker 2: try to make a difference in the lives of all
37:27
Speaker 2: of the kids.
37:29
Speaker 4: And now.
37:32
Speaker 2: It's in after the fact. Now we're into damage control.
37:42
Speaker 2: We have Washington County Mental Health in the school trying
37:47
Speaker 2: to help as much as possible, and we're just trying
37:52
Speaker 2: to We're trying to help everyone, but everybody's hurting, adults, kids, everyone,
38:01
Speaker 2: and our whole community is man, it's it's just you know.
38:07
Speaker 2: And and the thing about Sweethearts and Heroes is and
38:09
Speaker 2: they tailor there as you well know, their presentations for
38:14
Speaker 2: all different age groups, all different grades. They do bully drills,
38:21
Speaker 2: they have fun with the kids, they turn them into superheroes.
38:26
Speaker 2: There's some really fundamental, profound things that are happening that
38:35
Speaker 2: some of the kids don't even realize what they're learning,
38:38
Speaker 2: which is really beautiful things, wonderful things, not just how
38:42
Speaker 2: to go about their day in school, but how to
38:47
Speaker 2: go about their their lives outside of school during the
38:50
Speaker 2: summer and as they get older. But I just feel like,
38:57
Speaker 2: if given the opportunity, Sweethearts and Heroes really could have
39:04
Speaker 2: potentially prevented this from from happening.
39:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, early on when those types of situations happened, JD,
39:16
Speaker 4: I kind of had that same mindset because a lot
39:21
Speaker 4: of people are you know, there's issues and you want
39:24
Speaker 4: to fix them, you want to help and stuff. And
39:28
Speaker 4: this is just so I can't possibly imagine what those
39:32
Speaker 4: parents are going through right now. And my heart absolutely
39:36
Speaker 4: pours out to them and the family and the close
39:38
Speaker 4: friends of that situation and all I can really say
39:42
Speaker 4: is you know, maybe it would have and maybe it
39:45
Speaker 4: wouldn't have. But my mentality of how I fix things
39:49
Speaker 4: is kind of like the great one Gretzky that says
39:54
Speaker 4: I missed one hundred percent of the shots I never took.
39:58
Speaker 4: So I had you done everything you could and it
40:02
Speaker 4: still happened. It's an absolutely horrific thing. And then you
40:06
Speaker 4: ask yourself what more could I have done? And if
40:08
Speaker 4: the answer is I did everything, then you know, at
40:12
Speaker 4: least you can put your head on the pillow that
40:14
Speaker 4: night and and not say I wish I had done
40:16
Speaker 4: something else. I do know it helps, I know helps tremendously.
40:21
Speaker 4: Because Tom also has a way of speaking to the
40:23
Speaker 4: kids so openly and honestly and directly in a way
40:27
Speaker 4: that they've never been spoken to before. And that's why
40:31
Speaker 4: I made the comment of the kids hanging on his
40:35
Speaker 4: every word, because kids know when when things are being uh,
40:39
Speaker 4: you know, polished up and made you know, politically correct,
40:43
Speaker 4: and and and and and you know a lot of
40:46
Speaker 4: makeup on it. And then you got Tom Murphy coming
40:48
Speaker 4: in and straight up this is it, and he shines
40:52
Speaker 4: the light on what it is and how it's it's
40:55
Speaker 4: it's he doesn't even like calling it a bully pre
40:58
Speaker 4: prevention presentation by stand or empowerment.
41:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's it's.
41:05
Speaker 4: Just it's just a phenomenal thing to see.
41:09
Speaker 2: You know, we all have opinions about what are the
41:13
Speaker 2: most important things that we need to learn. We need
41:18
Speaker 2: to learn how to swim. We need to learn how
41:23
Speaker 2: to speak our native tongue. We need to learn how
41:28
Speaker 2: to speak English. We need to learn basic rules. We
41:33
Speaker 2: need to learn how to be better parents. There's all
41:36
Speaker 2: super super important things that we all have opinions we
41:41
Speaker 2: need to It's more important than anything else to learn
41:45
Speaker 2: how to learn self defense, more than anything, but learning
41:52
Speaker 2: how to connect with others. Relatability is probably one of
42:01
Speaker 2: the most powerful things that we can all possess. Communication, connectivity,
42:10
Speaker 2: get on the same level, Be a good person to
42:14
Speaker 2: someone else, no matter if you're in kindergarten or if
42:20
Speaker 2: you're an adult. Just be better, do more, watch out
42:26
Speaker 2: for other human beings. But you know, it's like, look
42:32
Speaker 2: at what's happening right now with our culture. It's the
42:36
Speaker 2: turn the cheek mentality. Don't get involved. It's none of
42:40
Speaker 2: your damn business, and that's poisoning us.
42:46
Speaker 4: Jay agreed, but you were that the first part of
42:53
Speaker 4: that last statement. You described circle training to a t,
42:59
Speaker 4: and it allows ten twelve people, It works with fourth graders,
43:06
Speaker 4: it works with forteen fifty year olds to sit in
43:08
Speaker 4: a circle, take time, have a conversation, get to know
43:12
Speaker 4: that person on a personal level, and I have to
43:15
Speaker 4: listen to them, and most likely when you're listening that intently,
43:18
Speaker 4: you're understanding and then you're building a connection. When I
43:22
Speaker 4: went over to circle training, when I walked in the
43:25
Speaker 4: door and there are a few people there there, you know,
43:27
Speaker 4: there was a couple of people. There is no way
43:31
Speaker 4: you and I would ever have a conversation outside of
43:33
Speaker 4: this room. But then after listening to them for two days,
43:39
Speaker 4: you know, I went up and gave them a hug
43:41
Speaker 4: and I understood them at their level. And you know,
43:45
Speaker 4: we're all just a bunch of humans trying to do
43:47
Speaker 4: the best we can. And I do believe that for
43:49
Speaker 4: the most part, when everybody walks in the door where
43:53
Speaker 4: they work, they do have the intent to do the
43:55
Speaker 4: best job they can. But the as you pointed out
44:00
Speaker 4: so specifically, that that ability to connect to each other,
44:04
Speaker 4: you know, unfiltered, unobstructed, is has waned in our lives
44:09
Speaker 4: and you know these things aren't helping much.
44:12
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Sweethearts and Heroes dot com that's the the
44:19
Speaker 2: go to. I've got the the site here in the
44:22
Speaker 2: comments section. All you have to do is click on it.
44:27
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe even you know, we say, Jay
44:33
Speaker 2: writes your legislator, right, you're superintendent. Send them an email,
44:48
Speaker 2: put the put the link for Sweethearts and Heroes in it.
44:53
Speaker 2: Get them, send them the link to you and I
44:57
Speaker 2: talking right now, Jay. Sure, every Weddy, every every single Wednesday,
45:05
Speaker 2: we devote the airwaves right here. It aired out to
45:12
Speaker 2: the message behind Sweethearts and Heroes. There's a there's a
45:18
Speaker 2: lot of crap in the world, Jay, a lot. All
45:22
Speaker 2: you gotta do, and you just showed your cell phone.
45:25
Speaker 2: All you have to do is turn that thing on
45:28
Speaker 2: and it's right there in front of you, no matter
45:31
Speaker 2: what it is. We've got too many kids, too connected
45:35
Speaker 2: to too many devices. Unplug. Be a better parent, Get
45:43
Speaker 2: dialed in with your kids, make plans for the summer,
45:48
Speaker 2: keep check of their mental health and ask questions.
45:58
Speaker 4: Amen, brother, Keep keep those kids as active outside as
46:01
Speaker 4: humanly possible. My kid does a ski, racer, field hockey player.
46:06
Speaker 4: We do a lot of boating and hiking, and the
46:12
Speaker 4: more it just seems like the more kids are outside playing,
46:15
Speaker 4: the less they're on their devices, and the happier they are.
46:18
Speaker 4: So the every minute is outdoors doing something. I love, sports,
46:23
Speaker 4: you name it. Yeah, the kids are doing it. They
46:26
Speaker 4: gotta they have to get out there and do that.
46:29
Speaker 4: And that does relieve a lot of this anxiety at
46:34
Speaker 4: that moment that they're out competing or practicing or trying
46:36
Speaker 4: to learn some skill, riding a bike, yeah, whatever it is.
46:42
Speaker 2: You know, I say, I say, you know, ask questions,
46:47
Speaker 2: and it's important to ask questions your kids. How is
46:51
Speaker 2: your day, what was good about it? What was not
46:53
Speaker 2: so good about it? I try to do that every
46:55
Speaker 2: single day, seven days a week with my eleven year
46:58
Speaker 2: old little girl. But also, and this is the part
47:03
Speaker 2: that's hard for for me, and my wife is constantly
47:07
Speaker 2: reminding me, is to ask the important questions, to engage
47:11
Speaker 2: with your kids. But then zip it and listen and
47:18
Speaker 2: and and and that's so difficult for us to do. Jay,
47:22
Speaker 2: I mean, we do that, we're forced to do that
47:24
Speaker 2: in circle. Oh my god, you know I have with
47:28
Speaker 2: what I do podcasting, I have so many follow up questions, well,
47:34
Speaker 2: well what happened? I mean, but just listen to not
47:40
Speaker 2: just your kids, but just to everybody, whether you agree
47:43
Speaker 2: with them or not. Just shut up.
47:46
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's a It's a skill that is is
47:49
Speaker 4: fleeting the American public. Is the ability to listen and comprehend. Yeah,
47:55
Speaker 4: I've I've now that I've gotten older and I'm in
47:58
Speaker 4: conversation with somebody asked me a question about something, and
48:00
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit like Murphy is such a curious brain,
48:04
Speaker 4: and I don't get frustrated. I get fascinated. How does
48:07
Speaker 4: that work? And how did they figure that out? I
48:10
Speaker 4: want to know. But you can tell instantly when you're
48:12
Speaker 4: talking to somebody that isn't a good listener. And I
48:17
Speaker 4: at sixty two, I just go, you know what, I
48:19
Speaker 4: don't know how many more years I got for me
48:21
Speaker 4: on this planet. I'm going to spend my time elsewhere
48:23
Speaker 4: where it's more valuable. But that's the adults, And like
48:27
Speaker 4: my wife always says, we have such incredible expectations of
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Speaker 4: our youth. I'll give you a quick example. I was
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Speaker 4: at a rotary home show and they asked me to
48:38
Speaker 4: go speak to the vendors on the night before how
48:41
Speaker 4: to get the most out of their booth for sales.
48:44
Speaker 4: And so I went up there and I had a quick,
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Speaker 4: little fifteen minute pitch that's really pertinent information on there.
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Speaker 4: And there was one person in the audience that spoke
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Speaker 4: the entire time JD. People actually left where she was
48:59
Speaker 4: to get to another spot to hear. And my wife
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Speaker 4: is like, if that was a fifteen or fourteen or
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Speaker 4: a twelve year old, the parents would have been over
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Speaker 4: there correcting that child on the first sentence. Yeah, of course,
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Speaker 4: not fifteen minutes of talking out loud. Right, So we
49:15
Speaker 4: have these unrealistic expectations of our youth, but yet the
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Speaker 4: adults around there exhibiting the absolute worst behavior, and it's excused. Sure,
49:25
Speaker 4: kids are only going to do what they see, and
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Speaker 4: they're gonna whatever expectation is managed and demonstrated. Heard.
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Speaker 2: Nobody heard what she had to say, Jay, Oh nobody.
49:38
Speaker 4: It was. It was like being in a tent with
49:40
Speaker 4: a mosquito. But I just to your point of the
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Speaker 4: listening and the expectation of the kids. I couldn't agree
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Speaker 4: with you more about the when you talk to you
49:50
Speaker 4: With my daughter, I every time I put her to
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Speaker 4: bed to read the book and then I closed the
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Speaker 4: book and I just shut up in that uncomfortable silence,
49:58
Speaker 4: and I called that the witch hour, and I could
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Speaker 4: see the wheels spinning, and I just I never said
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Speaker 4: a word because she's processing something that happened that day,
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Speaker 4: and now her mind's calming down and she's just focusing
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Speaker 4: on that one thing. And sometimes I would lie there
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Speaker 4: for five, six, seven minutes and then say, hey, Papa,
50:18
Speaker 4: when blah blah blah blah blah. So now I know
50:20
Speaker 4: that was on our mind. It was on the mind
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Speaker 4: all day. Yeah, but she never had a chance to
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Speaker 4: talk about it. Yeah, And there's so much value in
50:29
Speaker 4: letting them talk and talk and then you get the
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Speaker 4: real And my advice for parents is, you know, on
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Speaker 4: that theme, even the things you think they know, bring
50:40
Speaker 4: it up. Bring up that topic and the other thing,
50:45
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that they are listening, even when they
50:48
Speaker 4: appear that they are not listening. I had so many
50:51
Speaker 4: of my her friend's parents come back to me and said,
50:54
Speaker 4: you know your kid is listening to you, And I said, boy,
50:57
Speaker 4: I don't at this A fifteen sixty really, Oh yeah,
51:01
Speaker 4: the topic came up and she said this, this, this, this,
51:03
Speaker 4: I'm like son of a gun. I thought she didn't.
51:05
Speaker 4: You know, not only was she not listening, she was
51:07
Speaker 4: annoyed and didn't agree with it. But yet there it is.
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Speaker 2: Wow, Jaye, what a pleasure it is having you on
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Speaker 2: the air this morning. I so much appreciate your time.
51:20
Speaker 2: Our listeners say the same thing. We got some great
51:24
Speaker 2: comments coming in here, g saying amazing work being done. Yeah,
51:33
Speaker 2: but a lot more work that needs to be done
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Speaker 2: for damn sure.
51:38
Speaker 4: Yeah. And to that other question you asked about trying
51:41
Speaker 4: to get circle training or sweethearts and heroes, You're really
51:45
Speaker 4: going to find someone in your community, preferably in the school,
51:49
Speaker 4: that's gonna champion this for you. So you know, you
51:52
Speaker 4: might don't think just because you don't have access to
51:54
Speaker 4: the superintendent that there's not the ability to get sweethearts
51:58
Speaker 4: and heroes in your school. All at is one teacher
52:02
Speaker 4: that understands the message, and that teacher can go champion
52:06
Speaker 4: that and they can get it done. So just keep
52:10
Speaker 4: talking to people, try to get people to go to presentations.
52:13
Speaker 4: Tom will let people go in through the school and
52:15
Speaker 4: sit in the back and watch, and I'll guarantee anybody
52:18
Speaker 4: out there listening. If you get the opportunity to sit
52:21
Speaker 4: through one of Tom's feature presentations. I guarantee you will
52:26
Speaker 4: be blown away. You'll laugh, you'll cry, but you will
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Speaker 4: not forget. It's been fifteen years since I watched the
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Speaker 4: first one and I can still hear just about every
52:35
Speaker 4: word in my head today. Sure, yeah, it's impressive.
52:39
Speaker 2: I guarantee you too, man. But I mean, all we
52:44
Speaker 2: can do is chip way at this and feature this
52:47
Speaker 2: every Wednesday on the air and hope that somebody somewhere
52:51
Speaker 2: is listening. But man, it is needed. It's not just
52:54
Speaker 2: needed at Barry City and Barry Town School, It's needed
53:00
Speaker 2: in all of our schools around here. And huge kudos
53:05
Speaker 2: this morning. I want to close out with just a big,
53:10
Speaker 2: big tip of the hat to the North Country Chevy
53:14
Speaker 2: dealers who are writ in checks to get sweethearts and
53:21
Speaker 2: heroes into countless schools. Not just hearing fromont all over
53:28
Speaker 2: They're all over the place, yeap. Look at what's happening
53:32
Speaker 2: over in New York and the other side of the pond, crazy,
53:36
Speaker 2: the old Champlain Valley, great.
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Speaker 4: Stuff, amazing is yeah. Well, I appreciate you having me
53:45
Speaker 4: on here, JD. It's been absolutely my pleasure and privilege
53:49
Speaker 4: to share my morning with you, and you know, I
53:53
Speaker 4: gotta tell you, j D, my day started perfectly. I
53:58
Speaker 4: got to wake up you what I have the best
54:01
Speaker 4: days when that happens. I even set a record twenty two,
54:05
Speaker 4: six hundred and fifty consecutive days. I got to do that.
54:13
Speaker 2: I love that. Man. Every single day you got a
54:18
Speaker 2: clean slate, You got an opportunity to do something, something
54:23
Speaker 2: positive for your life or someone else's. Yeah, I love it, man, Joe.
54:29
Speaker 4: Wait, tomorrow has not promised to anybody.
54:31
Speaker 2: So now let's go to do something.
54:33
Speaker 4: Do it today?
54:34
Speaker 2: Please, please return. I would love to have you back
54:39
Speaker 2: on aired out. I hope to meet you someday. But Jay,
54:43
Speaker 2: absolute absolute pleasure.
54:45
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, my pleasure, and thank you for
54:50
Speaker 4: everything you do. JD. I'm sure you're making an incredible
54:53
Speaker 4: impact with your audience and everybody in your area. So
54:57
Speaker 4: thank you again.
54:58
Speaker 2: Thank you brother. Be in touch with your real soon.
55:01
Speaker 2: You bet you all right, Jay Cummings right there, VP
55:06
Speaker 2: of Business Development over a People's Trust. Incredible. Listen, we
55:13
Speaker 2: have much more to talk about. There is so much
55:18
Speaker 2: going on here in Central Vermont. I'm aware of it.
55:22
Speaker 2: I know I'm reading, I'm seeing what's happening. Take a
55:28
Speaker 2: deep breath. Take a deep breath, and we'll get through
55:32
Speaker 2: it together Tomorrow morning. I've got a guest that is
55:40
Speaker 2: on standby and I'm not sure if this is going
55:43
Speaker 2: to happen. I'm trying to get him in here. We
55:46
Speaker 2: will see. I'm doing the best I can, and it
55:53
Speaker 2: is a gentleman who is going to be competing in
55:57
Speaker 2: the special Olympics national competition coming up real soon. I'm
56:06
Speaker 2: pulling the strings. I'm working it. Hopefully I'll be able
56:09
Speaker 2: to get them on the air tomorrow morning. I will
56:13
Speaker 2: let you know, I promise. And Friday, what's going to happen?
56:23
Speaker 2: The fingers crossed. I'm knocking on wood right now that
56:29
Speaker 2: my buddy G is going to be in here blowing
56:34
Speaker 2: the top off this place. I have some things to
56:38
Speaker 2: talk with G about on the air and off the air,
56:42
Speaker 2: and some of the things that I want to talk
56:44
Speaker 2: with them off the air about might possibly be conversations
56:51
Speaker 2: that we have on the air. It is going to
56:53
Speaker 2: be extremely unrehearsed, filtered on Friday morning, as it always is.
57:05
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