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Patriots Unfiltered 12/24: NFL Week 17 Picks, Jets Preview, HC Mike Vrabel Press Conference Reaction · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't I have a light on any cameras? I
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you wait till the break. I can just
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  Speaker 3: see Aldred making this call with a doctor in front
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  Speaker 3: of him, saying.
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  Speaker 1: Cough, hold on, I gotta talk to these guys.
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  Speaker 3: This is important. Pants down as got a nice haircut, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just got it this morning.
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  Speaker 5: G and L yep GNA.
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  Speaker 3: Called in last week and made a statement regarding May's
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter comeback against the Ravens. I stated that they
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  Speaker 3: are one of the top rated defenses in the league
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  Speaker 3: as of late, to which Paul retorted that.
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  Speaker 1: They are not.
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  Speaker 3: While I understand your role as the bad guy and
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  Speaker 3: your tendency to disagree with the majority of takes. Facts
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  Speaker 3: are facts, and numbers don't lie.
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  Speaker 6: My thing is when Paul like misinterprets the point you're
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  Speaker 6: trying to make, and then he starts arguing against the
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  Speaker 6: point you weren't trying to make, and now you're like,
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  Speaker 6: that's not See.
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  Speaker 3: The thing I've learned over by thirty years with Paul
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  Speaker 3: Perillo is that he has a lot of arguments going on.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of takes that he's getting ready to
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  Speaker 3: defend down the road, strategic and that's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: what's going on with him. I see right through it.
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  Speaker 3: I see right through it.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Christmas Eve
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  Speaker 3: here at Jillette Stadium, and the gang's all here. It'll
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  Speaker 3: be Deuce and Evan and Paul and Me and Alex
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  Speaker 3: later Alex and Matt and the booth. We're all here
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  Speaker 3: to bring in Christmas for you and also get ready
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  Speaker 3: for this matchup with the New Jersey Jets on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I heard Evan. You pooh pooing the whole
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  Speaker 3: thing that this might be a tough game. I heard
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  Speaker 3: you want catch twenty two. I heard you say that
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  Speaker 3: you pooh pooed it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm with Evan the reason why that's your touchdown favorites.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, am, I am?
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  Speaker 4: I My laughter didn't didn't do it enough?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, come on, like what this is the
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  Speaker 7: worst team in the league.
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  Speaker 3: It is, but even the worst team in the league,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what's the NFL. Sometimes things happen.
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  Speaker 4: You don't believe that.
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  Speaker 1: Like what if?
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  Speaker 3: What if?
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  Speaker 5: Like you know, Drake Mega's for turnovers, I don't even
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  Speaker 5: think that for a team that's forced three all year,
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  Speaker 5: all season.
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  Speaker 7: I literally think that some something like meteor would have
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  Speaker 7: to strike the state.
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  Speaker 3: What everyone that has been banged up doesn't play?
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  Speaker 4: Patriots win by three touchdowns?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this team is I hope right.
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  Speaker 7: This team is actually terrible and I and I don't
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  Speaker 7: normally say that, like I try to find reasons. I
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  Speaker 7: think they've given up on this, right, and those are
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  Speaker 7: two hand in hand things. But like they defensively, they're
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  Speaker 7: in absolute disarray. They fired their defensive coordinator. Offensively, Brady
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  Speaker 7: Cook has nothing to do with their future they're just
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  Speaker 7: finishing out the string with Brady Cook as their quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: This is as uninspiring of an offense as I've watched
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  Speaker 7: all season long. Watching their tape over the last week,
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  Speaker 7: I mean like, there's just nothing that I can come
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  Speaker 7: up with to tell you that this is going to
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  Speaker 7: be anything remotely worrisome for the Patriots. So I do
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  Speaker 7: think it's funny that I heard I'm Paul shows a
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  Speaker 7: little bit some like, you know, well, it's the holidays
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  Speaker 7: and it's a weird time of year, and like, please please, That's.
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  Speaker 5: Why I'm not sure that they'll score fifty, because that's
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  Speaker 5: the holidays and they might have a little let down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to take the role of Fred this week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you knowed in three tough schedule.
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  Speaker 4: Bill would score fifty on this team on Sundays.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Mike Rabel might say let's call off the dots.
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  Speaker 5: It might be smarter to you know, if the game
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  Speaker 5: gets like that, to get some guys out and just
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  Speaker 5: sort of throttle it down into a giant second half.
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  Speaker 5: That would be the smart.
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  Speaker 1: Thing to do.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, I agreed one thing that you said, Evan that
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  Speaker 3: I thought well among others, But one thing that I'm
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  Speaker 3: hoping comes true is that the Jets might do things
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  Speaker 3: in this game that the Patries have had trouble with
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  Speaker 3: over the last few weeks, and so that it becomes
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  Speaker 3: sort of a tune up game.
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  Speaker 7: It's a classic tune up game for talk about that
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  Speaker 7: a little bit. This is like this is like when
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  Speaker 7: you know Alabama schedules like Alcorn State at the beginning
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  Speaker 7: of the season, and like the result is never the question,
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  Speaker 7: Like they win by seventy, right, but they feel good
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  Speaker 7: about themselves off the game. You know, maybe they fix
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  Speaker 7: some things in game that they haven't been going great.
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  Speaker 3: That's where I want to stop. Are you able to
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  Speaker 3: fix some things if the team is not putting up
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  Speaker 3: a fight?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think you're able to do some of that.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, this is the NFL, Like this is not
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  Speaker 7: you know, we're still talking about bres Hall. We're still
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  Speaker 7: talking about NFL players.
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  Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, if the Patriots are stopping
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  Speaker 3: the run, is that, you know real or is it? Well,
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  Speaker 3: the Jets really weren't.
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  Speaker 7: I think that you can you can do things and
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  Speaker 7: from like almost like a muscle memory standpoint of like
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  Speaker 7: we're going to play better technique, we're going to be
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  Speaker 7: more physical, and that I do think can help you
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  Speaker 7: come into your own a little bit. You know, I
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  Speaker 7: can use the comparison of you know, the eighteen team
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  Speaker 7: that beat up on the Jets and the Bills in
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  Speaker 7: the last two weeks of the season, and they use
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  Speaker 7: that as a launching pad into a playoff run, and
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  Speaker 7: I there's not the same exact situation, but I think
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  Speaker 7: that it's similar enough that in these two games. You know,
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  Speaker 7: the Jets in bress Hall have can run the ball
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  Speaker 7: a little bit. Their numbers aren't great, but they have
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  Speaker 7: the personnel to be able to run the ball a
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  Speaker 7: little bit. That's obviously been an issue for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 7: And I'd say the next week. You know ve Chan plays,
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  Speaker 7: you know the Dolphins have run the ball all year
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  Speaker 7: pretty well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think next week they could get that test.
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  Speaker 5: I agree, because even down the stretch here with Miami,
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  Speaker 5: they've been running the ball pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: He's really good.
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  Speaker 5: HeSE Hall's kind of been out of the lineup a
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  Speaker 5: little bit. But the eighteen analogy is a good one.
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  Speaker 5: I would have been the first one to argue with
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  Speaker 5: Fred then, just going back to my argumentative nature, I
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  Speaker 5: would have argued with Fred, you can't learn anything with
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  Speaker 5: those two games. I would still argue stubbornly admittedly that
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  Speaker 5: that particular aspect was a little bit overrated. But they
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  Speaker 5: went on. They got the ship righted with those two
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  Speaker 5: games at the end of the year, and they went
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  Speaker 5: on into the playoffs, and Sony Michelle was, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a big part of the way they played in those
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  Speaker 5: first two playoff games and ran the ball and ended
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  Speaker 5: up winning another title that a lot of people didn't
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  Speaker 5: see coming.
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  Speaker 6: I like that you have an opportunity to play for
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  Speaker 6: something in these last two weeks too, So I just
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  Speaker 6: I think coming out of the game where maybe you
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  Speaker 6: can complete the perfect road record eight to zero against
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  Speaker 6: the Jets, then you can come home and you know,
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  Speaker 6: maybe you're playing for the division and maybe you win
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  Speaker 6: that game and you win the division.
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  Speaker 1: So both of these games could result in a little celebration.
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  Speaker 6: Good vibes, like feeling like you're accomplishing something, not where
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  Speaker 6: you get into some of these Week eighteen games and
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  Speaker 6: you're like, let's just survive, let's just hope nobody gets hurt.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure that there's an element of that
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  Speaker 6: too for this team. But you know, it actually has
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  Speaker 6: something to play for and when you win these games,
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  Speaker 6: to have a tangible result that you can say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: we're adding to what we did this season. And I
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  Speaker 6: think those things are good for for momentum. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: we'll see about that number one seed that that's still
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  Speaker 6: on my mind too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, if your point Fred about you know, NFL and anything,
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  Speaker 5: you're you're right, and you can never just say there's
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  Speaker 5: no possible way. But it would have to require a
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  Speaker 5: lot of Patriots help, you know, the turnovers. The one
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  Speaker 5: area that the Jets are really good in is special teams.
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  Speaker 5: I think they have three or four returns for touchdowns,
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  Speaker 5: so allow you know, allow a kick return for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: Kick coverage has been a little leaky to the point
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  Speaker 5: where they would you know, mostly calling for touchbacks. The
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  Speaker 5: other night, I think they only had two returns allowed
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  Speaker 5: and out of the six or so kicks, so allow
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  Speaker 5: a lower return and turn the ball over a couple
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  Speaker 5: of times and fall behind and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the other team maybe decides, hey, we might
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  Speaker 5: be able to steal one and spoil something for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: But that would be, in my view, the only way
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  Speaker 5: because if it's just a game that gets played out
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  Speaker 5: normally with no turnovers, nothing, you know, outside them, I
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  Speaker 5: just I can't I can't see Brady Cook. This isn't
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  Speaker 5: that Brady.
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  Speaker 1: It's a different breed.
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  Speaker 3: And the Jets pressure isn't that good. Where May is
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  Speaker 3: going to have huge amounts of problem.
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  Speaker 5: No, they don't get a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they mix it up a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Will McDonald's okay, and you know they have they have
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  Speaker 6: some pieces. But you know, I think Evan said that
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  Speaker 6: they're tackles, I mean, variable pointed out their tackles are
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  Speaker 6: getting pretty good plays, so you know there are some challenge,
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  Speaker 6: which is I think Patriots. Sounds like Tonga's got a
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  Speaker 6: one to two week injury according to Ian Rappaport, so
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  Speaker 6: he's likely to be out. I'm not really banking on
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  Speaker 6: mill wounds being back out there, and the way he
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  Speaker 6: sounded his locker yesterday, it sounds like it's.
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  Speaker 1: Still a feel it out process.
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  Speaker 6: So they really might have, you know, bar more dirtin
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  Speaker 6: Eric Gregory, Jeremiah Farms gets promoted maybe like those I
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  Speaker 6: mean they're gonna be they're gonna be scraping the barrel
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  Speaker 6: with some of these guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Jets could play ball possession football and
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  Speaker 3: Breest Hall slow down the game, keep the score down.
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  Speaker 4: They could do that for four quarter.
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  Speaker 5: If he plays, he might not even play.
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  Speaker 7: They could do that to start the game, and maybe
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  Speaker 7: it's a little bit closer than you want it to
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  Speaker 7: be in like the first quarter, but they're not gonna
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  Speaker 7: be able to sustain that. Like eventually Drake may is
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  Speaker 7: gonna start scoring. And at that point, I mean, if
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  Speaker 7: it was just one side of the ball with the Jets,
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  Speaker 7: then I would be like, okay, Like their defense is
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  Speaker 7: pretty good and you know, kind of like Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland has a great defense.
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  Speaker 7: So in the second half again Buffalo that their defense
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  Speaker 7: came alive and they were able to give Josh Allen
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  Speaker 7: some problems. I just I don't see on either side
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  Speaker 7: of the ball, like where the real dilemmas?
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, the games in hand, So let's talk
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  Speaker 3: about is Diehard at Christmas movie?
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  Speaker 1: I'm only kidding, I.
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  Speaker 4: Said on Catshwoyne too. I had ten minutes on the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: That's all.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's it's one of those games that like you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't really think, no, it's not a Christmas movie.
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  Speaker 5: No, you don't really think it is going to be
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  Speaker 5: like a tougher game closer than people think he does.
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  Speaker 5: Like the Miami You can make an argument for Miami.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's going to be either, but I
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  Speaker 5: can listen to that.
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  Speaker 3: I say, seventy percent of me says it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be a tough game. But there's that thirty percent
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  Speaker 3: that says it's the NFL, it's a division game, it's
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  Speaker 3: the Jets.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if if Justin Fields or Tyrod Taylor were
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  Speaker 5: playing and I saw any semblance of a pulse from
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  Speaker 5: the Jets defense over the last say six weeks and
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  Speaker 5: Breese Hall was sort of engaged, yeah, I could say
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  Speaker 5: it's the NFL. Anything could happen, blah blah blah. But
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  Speaker 5: none of those things have happened. Like the Jets games
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  Speaker 5: have been pretty much over pretty quickly. And Brady Cook,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not this is not a disrespect to him.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he's thrust into a role that he's not
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  Speaker 5: ready for. He's an undrafted rookie. I think he's undrafted.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: It was kind of mid in college. He wasn't a
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  Speaker 5: great college quarterback at Missouri. Doesn't have a ton to
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  Speaker 5: work with it. Like it's John Metchi and ad Mitchell.
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  Speaker 5: There's two wide receivers. You know, Garrett Wilson's not, you know,
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  Speaker 5: not playing. Breese Hall hasn't been playing. Maybe he comes
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  Speaker 5: back and plays this game. I don't even think Mason
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  Speaker 5: Taylor played the last game, you know, you know, kind
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  Speaker 5: of a promising young tight end, rookie tight end. They
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  Speaker 5: just I don't really see where they go to make
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  Speaker 5: it an interesting game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you can make the case for Miami.
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  Speaker 5: And Miami has been sort of spunky and.
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  Speaker 7: It takes a hit that they benched Tua finally and
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be quinn yours instead of two.
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  Speaker 5: But for a half he looked all right. Now he
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  Speaker 5: didn't didn't play very well in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: Like a chan waddle.
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  Speaker 7: Like those guys are talented players, right did The Jets
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  Speaker 7: don't have any of that, Like they traded Sauce Gardner
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  Speaker 7: and Quentin Williams. Garrett Wilson's not playing. Bristol doesn't want
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  Speaker 7: to be there. He requested a trade and they didn't give.
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  Speaker 1: It to him.
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  Speaker 4: He wants out.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: Their tackles I think are building blocks, but they're not.
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  Speaker 7: You don't build a team to beat the Patriots around
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  Speaker 7: two young tackles.
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  Speaker 5: So come in boasting you two young tackles, like, we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna pull it up set because we got two good tackles.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I those guys.
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  Speaker 7: If you're starting to talk about, like how did the
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  Speaker 7: Jets pull out of this kind of messy thing? I
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  Speaker 7: think Fashanu and Membu are gonna be good players.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they look like two picks.
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  Speaker 1: It's like to your only building blocks, you know, yeah, gar.
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  Speaker 5: We and unfortunately, their draft picks haven't really been a
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  Speaker 5: huge problem, Like they just keep tating they've done okay
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  Speaker 5: with their draft picks. You know, I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 5: every one of them was a home run.
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  Speaker 6: But don't they get good and then they they get.
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  Speaker 5: Some good players and they don't have a good player
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  Speaker 5: where it counts, and it's hard to it's hard to
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  Speaker 5: overcome that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, okay, Jets.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I don't like being disrespectful. No, all right,
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  Speaker 4: I try to hype up the other teams just a
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  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So, as we talked about, the Patriots do have a
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  Speaker 3: lot to play for. There's that perfect road record that
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  Speaker 3: they'd like to keep intact. And if the Patriots win
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  Speaker 3: and later on the Bills lose to the Eagles in Buffalo,
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  Speaker 3: it's a four to twenty five game. The Patriots have
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  Speaker 3: the AFC East. I don't think that outcome is going
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  Speaker 3: to happen. I think the Bills are going to win
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  Speaker 3: that game. The Eagles already, they've already Josh.
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  Speaker 5: All stunned, he has already locked up. I think Buffalo
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  Speaker 5: is gonna win. I'm stunned you think that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm being realistic here. I think the Eagles don't
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  Speaker 3: have as much to play for and they're going in
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  Speaker 3: the wrong direction despite having the NFC East. So I
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  Speaker 3: think the Bills, you know, are you know, they got
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  Speaker 3: a good draw here and a good and they're in
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  Speaker 3: a good spot. I would say.
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  Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen missed the walk through yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh, he's just getting ready.
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  Speaker 4: His second half against his second half against Cleveland was not.
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  Speaker 5: Good because he couldn't move you see it. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 5: play happened at the end of the first half, which,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, another officiating a safety. Yeah, it's clearly
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  Speaker 5: a safety. And I don't like I'm not like you people.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really care who wins all these games, you people,
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  Speaker 5: you know, because that the league thinks that they for
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  Speaker 5: you people, that the league favors the bills. You know this,
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  Speaker 5: Come on, you know that that's a bad calling.
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  Speaker 3: I think I did.
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  Speaker 5: So he scrambled around one of those like you know,
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  Speaker 5: he was twenty yards behind the line of scrimmage and
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  Speaker 5: he ended up slipping.
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  Speaker 3: Right at the goal line. I didn't see that, Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So he's down on the ground on the goal line
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  Speaker 5: and he's trying to reach the ball out. The ball
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  Speaker 5: does not go all the way out like It's just
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  Speaker 5: like when you break the plane of the goal line
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: to score a touchdown. It's the same thing for a safety.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: It has to go all the way out.
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: It was like the Titans guy in the super If
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: it breaks the plane of the goal line, it's considered
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: to be in the.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: End zone, right, So the parity of the ball has
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: to be outside of the goal line. That makes sense,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't. And they deemed that he had given
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: himself up.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: At the one.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: He didn't give.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Himself up, still making an act.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: He was trying to get the ball out of the
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: end zone because he rightly, he smartly said oh no,
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: this is going to be a safety.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: You never noticed that the refs hate giving up safeties. Yeah, everything,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: they yes, that's a great point. Everything in their power
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: to not call it a safety. They do.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: They should just get rid of the rule because you're right, yeah, yeah.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: You know, how many times do you see intentional grounding
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: in the end zone and you know there's a guy
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: like they do, they seem very reluctant to call.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: All right, I'm with you on that one.
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: The foot thing for Josh Allen is interesting. He did
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: not play like himself in the second half against Cleveland,
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: and the Browns to you know, stayed in the game.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: As The reason why I think that's a big deal
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: is they were dominant before that. The first three times
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: they got the ball, these touchdowns, they went, you know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: that vaunted Cleveland defense, bang bang bang, and then he
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: got hurt and Evan's right, it was kind of a
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: struggle in the second half. They got some points set
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: up by the defense to just to do just enough
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: to to win. If you know, it's incredible Browns had
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: any semblance of an offense, they might have been able
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: to win that game. As tough, Like I said, he's
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: not I mean, in his defense, I just don't think
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: he's right.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Tough team to depend on.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: He makes a few plays him that well, you know, he's.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: A gamer, but his arm isn't that strong. He's pretty accurate.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: I think he's accurate. I don't think his arms that's wrong.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: He's not a very good athlete, and I think he
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: kind of operates.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Like he's a really good athlete.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he runs around a lot and gets run
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: down like Greg Russo.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Just like.
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: There's some uh, you know, weird things to play calling
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: wise with the Browns, where as Joe Murray would say
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: a little smelly.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well certainly that game against Tennessee. Yeah, that two
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: point conversion.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the two point conversion.
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: And then last week they had like a third and
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: three in the red zone and down three I think
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: it was, or down whatever it was, and I threw
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: a pass behind the line of scrimmage that lost yardage
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: and then they kicked the field goal on fourth down.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I think they were down six. I think it was
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: twenty three seventeen.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: I yelled at the TV and instead of like you
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: know what, everybody was like, whoa they had to kick
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: on four I'm not talking about fourth down. I'm talking
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: about third down, Like it's third and four and you
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: don't throw the ball five yards pass, you can't throw
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: the ball past the sticks.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I know the players.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: It was weird.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought the Browns were gonna at least I
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: figured the Bills would win the game. But I thought
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: the Browns were going to take the lead in the
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: second half, and then that kind of self destruction happened.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: It was a little smelly, I agree.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Changes How do you feel about Josh Allen and the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Bills right now?
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Like, I just watching enough of them over the years
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: and this last few weeks, just watching you know, what
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: he did here, what he did last week, and it
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: just and they have James Cook, so they're not completely barren,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: but it just feels like they put so much on him,
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: and he puts so much on himself that like they're
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: just going to drain his life force every season until he's.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Going to be like a shell of himself in the thirties.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: And then I feel like it's going to be like
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: l Way and he's got to learn to play from
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: the pocket and not run as much any you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Like I just I don't I say this is a
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: neutral fan, I'll take off my Patriots fan hat. If
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: I was a Bills fan, I would just be doing
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: what the Patriots were like, clamoring for some dynamic weapons
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: for this guy because and I don't even know if
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: it helps, because it almost seems like he's at his
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: best when he pulls it all on himself. But we're
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: seeing him start to get a little banged up. He's
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: getting older, Like I just it's gonna be harder for
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: him to continue to just take the team on his
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: back every single season.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I think if I was a Bills fan, yeah, I'd
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: be looking for more weapons, but I'd also be frustrated
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: with my defense, the breakdowns that they have, well.
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: Their defense has gotten old, and then you know they
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: they haven't drafted particularly well on that side of the
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: ball to replace some of those guys like Milano and
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Hide and Employer and Tredevius White's now back after you know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to move on from Tredevius White. But I
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: do think that they've done a better job of running
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: the ball conventionally with count Allen being involved, which does
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: take a little bit off of his plate. They can
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: ride James Cook like they can. You know, they have
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: a great offensive line and they have a really good
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: running back, and they can they can say we're gonna
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: put Alan under center and we're just gonna hand it
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: to James Cook twenty five times and that can be
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: productive for them, which is not the way that it
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: was two or three years ago. So that should translate,
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: you know, to January.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: They need to reset, you know, I've been talking about
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: that with Kansas City. I think Buffalo and I think
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: they did. I think they sort of sort of recalibrated
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: on the fly, and they've missed some Like Evan said that,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: you know, some of the draft picks and just like
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Christian Benford was a low round pick that really hit
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: for them, But they took a corner in the first
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: round in kyer Elam who was a colossal bust. So
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: that's you can't do that. And I know that you
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: might just look at it and say, well it evens
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: out in the wash. It doesn't because you needed to
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: have those guys. You need a first round pick to
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: be a good player.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: That's there, Nikhil Harry, Jacoby Myers.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Right, So that's a really bad pick. Now they need
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: they're gonna need to find some you know, like Khalishakir.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: That's a really good draft pick. I think it was
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: like a fifth or sixth round pick. Fourth was he
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: that high?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: So fourth round pick, that's a really good pick. He
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: can't be your best receiver.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: He can't.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: He's not. He's not a good enough player. He's like
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: a three. So they're gonna need to find a way.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: You can't miss with the key On Coleman pick. You
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: can't miss with the kyar Elum pick. This Hairston kid
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: this year has showing some flashes. He looks like he
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: can play a little bit. But Evan's right, they they've
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: gotten a little old. I still I still fear him,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: you know, but then yeah, so but I just look
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: at Buffy you like you you asked the question, like
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: for all of these things that are wrong with Buffalo,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: they're a game behind you who and everything has gone
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: right for you? So, like how bad are they?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Because the quarterback would be the quarterback.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Exactly exactly now. Sunday I think was as predictable as
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: anything they had, Like this shootout win against Tampa, this
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: like in the snow, like really emotional game against Cincinnati.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: You know, you know, you know, smashed around that the
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: you know, a huge twenty one point comeback in Foxborough.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Now you're going to Cleveland. You know, you don't need
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: your best to beat Cleveland. I mean that's why I
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: know we all I think we all took Buffalo to
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: win the game.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: In Cleveland to cover. I think we all got it right. Yeah, exactly.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I did I think it would be that close to
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: a loss. Probably not, but I thought that would be
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: one of.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Those games where you're, like, what do you do in Buffalo?
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Just put them away? Yeah, because you just can't play
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: at that level every week. Yeah, they don't have enough
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: that it's going to look better than that when you're
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: on cruise control. You know what I'm saying. For sure,
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: last year, that game on Cruise Control is a ten
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: ten point win instead of a three point win. They've
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: made some weird picks, like they've missed a little bit.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: The Kincaid's a good player, but it's not a needle
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: moving pick in the first round, you know, especially the
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: way that they play like they can't play them all
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: the time because you can't block, so like they actually
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: play Dawson Knox like just as much as they played
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: in Kaid because he's a better blocker. So like in
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Kid is really a third down specialist for them or
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: past game specialist.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know Max harriston their first round pick. Last
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: year's corner has been hurt and I was iffy on
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: him to begin with. We'll see what ends up happening
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: with it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: He's been okay since he came back. Yeah, but yeah
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: he missed the first whatever part of you think he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: opened the season on ir Yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul mentioned Kyrie Illam like those are like those
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: are like their last like three first round picks.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Eland's been on like three or four teams like in
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: a short period of time.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: That was a bad pick.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean so everybody thought it was a bad
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: pick when they made it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that smells a little bit like the Patriots draft picks.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: And you know, the late two thousands, you had a
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: quarterback who was able to, you know, keep you going.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: I guess just the difference for me is that whereas
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: Brady was able to play into his forties because he
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: wasn't putting himself in harm's way. How long can you
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: expect Josh Allen to continue to be Superman? And take
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: the hits, and you know when the guy have it plays,
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: he's bowling guys.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Over him because he have a Cam new trajectory. It's
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: gonna people he's a much better passion than I.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Think that will allow him to to have much more long.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Term People have used the Cam Newton comparison, where like
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: when you are Superman and you're running as much as
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: he is and putting your body out in But.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: I'll give you like the reason why I don't think
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: it's and I understand why people make the comp But
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: when it was twenty twenty, right, that was the COVID
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: year that we had Cam, he what did you think
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: of him as a runner that year? So that part
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: didn't deteriorate, but he can't throw it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Did a little bit, do you know what I mean?
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: So I don't think it was as much a physical deterioration.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: It's this not like the glaring weaknesses of him not
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: being able to throw were on full display. He was
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: still a runner. But when that's all you can do.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: And as Evan just alluded to, what I agree with
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Evan just said, he wasn't like Lamar Jackson as a runner.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Was it was amit Newton in the prime runner.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: He was a physical runner, but he wasn't running away
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: from people. But he couldn't throw. He wasn't accurate enough.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Cam in the open field with Carolina and with
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: Auburn was something.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Differential to play for Auburn.
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I can't even remember who it was against, but we
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: were I remember we were in San Diego.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: This is how vividly I remember it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: We were in San Diego watching the game on a
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Saturday and he just ran away from that at the
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: last minute, and it was just like, man, that guy,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: he's just different. You could just see he was operating
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: at a different level of everybody.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And this is sec football.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: His season at Auburn might be one of the best
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: college football seasons of all time.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's up there, all right.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: How was your Buffalo?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you? I appreciate it. I appreciate that. Thank you, guys.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Podcast at dot com is the email
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: address eight five to five pass five hundred is the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: hot line. Jeremiah writes in about the Jets. He says
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: they're playing for the number one pick and their coach
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: has job security for next year, so I do not
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: see the Jets doing anything to even try and win
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: this game. I say this game is going to be
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: a very comfortable win.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: I do too. I'm not so sure about Aaron Glenn's
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: he's going to be there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: Next So I did someone probably did he did he
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: get a vote of confidence.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I did not hear that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: I think to be a one and done you have
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: to have a lot of really sort of bad things happen.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: We just saw it, you know here up close. I
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: think a lot of those kinds of things have been
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: happening with the Jets. I wouldn't say that he's a
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: guarantee to be back now. He probably will be Fred
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: You're right, probably probably going to be but that kind
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: of dysfunction generally.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: You know what about Stefanski, he seems bulletproof.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I think Stefanski is a pretty good coach. Maybe just
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: needs to go this time. But like maybe one Kevin said,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: like some snippy calls, here's a couple of games.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's never really gotten to pick his quarterback,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: has he.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, you want to talk about a draft,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: I saw this on Twitter this week, like they had
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: a tremendous draft with the exception of these two quarterbacks
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: you know kind of can't play, and it kind of
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: just created a controversy, like you took these two, you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: later round guys and Gabriel and Sanders, who I don't
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: think either one of them is going to be the future,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: and all it's done is create turmoil for you. But
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: you know the defensive line, Mason Graham is, you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: looks exactly the part, like everybody thought, just a good, solid,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: workman like interior defensive lineman. That the linebacker has been terrific. Yeah,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: defensive is it Dylan Sampson, It's like been a good
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: like kind of sub backer.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sweahing jerk and my win defensive Rookie of the Year.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So like that, they had a really good draft.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: And I know that he's not necessarily making all the
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: picks but the quarterback stuff. And then sort of like
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: I'm calling the plays. No, I'm not calling the plays now,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Tommy Reese is calling them. He's it might be time.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: He still seems like the guy gets fired gets snapped
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: right up. That make me it doesn't even I think
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: he gets a second chance. He just for some reason,
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: and I mean I think he's done well with what
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: he's had, but he has respect that kind of Transcendsland
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: might have to coordinate again.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: With Mike right away he gets me chance.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: I think I think he's considered to be a reputation
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: pretty good offensive mine, and I just I think people
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: look at him and say he's been able to win
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: reasonably well without a quarterback, and they wonder what we
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: do with a quarterback. I think he's a two time
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Coach of the Year.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a tough time with him as an
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: offensive mind.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I am not overly impressed.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: I think he has a system, and I think the
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: system stable and sound. But like I don't watch Cleveland
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: games and be like, wow, what a scheme. But but
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: I think that their scheme is is.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Stable.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: Like I think that you can put players in the quarterbacks, especially,
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: and it's not a cumbersome offense to run, and it's
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: smooth and he knows what he's doing and like all
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: those different types of things. But I don't think that
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: he's like some like unbelievable play designer where I'm like
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: blown away by what they're doing schematically, but they're you know,
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: we don't have to get too much into Cleveland, but.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: You know that that Cleveland draft. I left out, so
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Mason Graham, quinch On Judkins, then you know Schweisinger, Harold
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Fannin yeh, and Dylan Sampson, Like I said, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: sort of sub running back. The two quarterbacks in there
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: kind of make I think they created turmoil. I might
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: even this is less about their ability as it is,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: like it didn't make sense to draft both of them.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: The only thing I'd push back on is the Mason
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: Graham pick, the most predictable pick of the draft, Like
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: similar to gent d he's a good player, but they
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: need difference makers and he's not want.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Let's see. Barton Poland says the game that we really
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: should be watching is Chargers against Houston. He says, we
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: really need the Chargers to win. That's the only way
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: they don't their starters versus Denver in Week eighteen.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: This is a very good point by bart that I
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: happen to agree with for exactly the reason.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: He's definitely right that it's a big game. I'm still
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: watching Buffalo, Like I think for this team it's important
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: to to win the division. I think it means a
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: lot to them. I think it means a lot to Rabel.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: You know his introductory press conference, take advantage of bad football,
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: win the division, compete for championships like those.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Were the post home playoffs.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, but you do that automatically. I I like
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: it's but like he said both and I was like, well,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: if you win the division, Mike like, uh, yeah, but
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: that is that is a big like objective, and I
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: think that it's it's really important for them to finish
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: this thing off in tangible Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: But the point about the number one seed I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: is ex accurate. You know, the Chargers, if they if
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: they don't have anything to play for, they're as banged
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: up as any team in.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: The league, they'll shut it down. I think I think
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: they could be guys.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Now, they might not win in Denver anyway, but if
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: they don't necessarily have anything to play for, it's important.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Anthony wants to know. Can you guys recall a time
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: where three teams who have been juggernauts in a conference
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: all needed to seriously retool their teams? The Chiefs, Ravens,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and Bills all need serious rehauls, although maybe not as
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: much for Buffalo given their success. Doesn't think the race
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of talent.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I think their talent isn't the issue. I think that
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: the coach might.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Need and Lamar got hurt.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you could make the same argument for Lamar
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: as who are trying to talk about with you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: is too much on him? Is that what's going to
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: happen because he has been I mean Josh Allen plays
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: every game La does.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean Lamar got hurt and then got hurt again,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: and now he's hurt again, and.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: He's missed games pretty much regularly. I would say, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: don't say every year, but at least three three different
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: seasons he's missed games.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I think Baltimore would be in the playoffs. I faver
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: didn't get it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I agree Ashton wants to know, with our lack of
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: pass rush, how is Swinson done with his chances? He
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: was fantastic at LSU. He hasn't had any He hasn't
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: had any chances.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been playing on special teams.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Should he have chances?
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: I mean I would assume that if he's secretly really good,
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: that they would be playing him. I don't think that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: The question is about Ponder and I think he's been
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: I mean or nothing.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he had a decent game when they're using him
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: on the inside against Buffalo, but then last week it
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: wasn't as well good. But I just for better or worse,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: I think that there's something to Landry and Chase on
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: have been their guys. I think Rabel's loyal to Landry especially,
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: and I think it's going to take something like an
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: injury or something severe for them to not go down
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: them with the ship. With those two guys being their
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: their bookend edge rushers.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: It was tough watching Landry back on this one. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: just I don't think he has any bursts right now.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: It just it seems like he's playing through something significant
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: and I'm not sure it's going to get better this
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: year and.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: It's probably still playing right.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: And my bigger question is just to get to the
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: off season. How much do they focus on that in
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: free agency in the draft, that edge spot. It's just,
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: you know, even Chased on him and I like him,
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: but I think I'd like him best if he was
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: like the third guy part of the rotation, that you
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: had three guys that you felt comfortable with on any down.
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: In this game, they took him off the field on
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: early downs. They put to Vaian Jennings on the edge
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: on rundowns. So I think they agree with you, like
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: he's really a situational pass rusher. Yeah, in his ideal role.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Quick.
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: I mean you gotta love the effort at the end.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: I mean that the pursuit to go back to that
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: at the end was tremendous.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Now you had the number about how much they were
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: sort of targeting those guys both both sides, but mostly
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: to the left, and that's probably why Evans pointing about
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: them taking them out.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Chase was tough.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, eight five five pats five hundred is the hotline.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Let's get to it. Sean's and Vancouver. What's up Sean?
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: And yesterday, Mike I implement to on the nineteen eighty
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: five Patriots podcast. So I have a game for you
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: guys on that.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: All right, I got an unfair advantage, I think.
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: Well, no, but you know you've been doing the work,
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: so Mike, you can you can chime in on this
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: for sure. And in nineteen ninety six, Patriots Director of
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: person player personnel Bobby Greer clashed with Parcels over draft decisions,
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: which led to build Parcels leaving the team after the
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: Super Bowl. LOFs what role did Bobby Greer have with
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: the nineteen eighty five New England Patriots?
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I know, Bobby college scouting director. I don't know. I
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: just got wait, hold on, there's no way I'm trying
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: to say.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a Robbie running back.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's an offensive backfield coach.
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: You're right, yep, there you go.
• 34:51
  Speaker 11: Okay, next question.
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: The Patriots selected center Trevor Matage twenty eighth overall nineteen
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: eighty five draft. What college did he attend?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Why are you there?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: You go?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't play, guy.
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: I don't know if I'm going to stop anybody with
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: these questions. Which two teams did the Patriots beat twice
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: in nineteen eighty five? And what were the scores?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They beat the Jets and the Dolphins twice.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm not sure the score.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Scor Paul, Yeah, the Jets and the Dolphins they beat twice.
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah, No, it's it's the Bills seventeen to fourteen and
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: the Bill Okay, well, they get home, they cold thirty
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: four fifteen at home, and the Colts thirty eight thirty
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: one in Indy. They lost in Miami and they lost
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: an overtime to the Jets.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: I just know them, but they beat them in the playoffs.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Well does he maybe you're just regular season?
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, right, because they I think they split with
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: both of those in the regular season.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Correct, Ye, yeah, that's what he's saying. Yeah, they did
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: them twice.
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: I meant the regular season.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the other two AFC teams.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: You have to be specific, Convince Ferragama. If the Bills,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: we'll catch you on the fourteen.
• 36:00
  Speaker 10: All right, two more questions. The Patriots only went to
• 36:03
  Speaker 10: overtime once in nineteen eighty five. Who did they play
• 36:06
  Speaker 10: and what was the score?
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Jolt Jess, I lost sixteen thirteen?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jet, they had it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: I knew it was one of the teams.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: He just said at le heat field goal, that was
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: like a knuckleball, that just barely like kind of me.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I remember his shoelace was untied, and.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: I don't remember that for that's just creepy, freaky.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Were you roomed for the Jets at that point, friend?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Probably eighty five.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I was living in Boston and I was rooting for
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the Patriots.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Did you go to the rally send them off?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: No?
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: What's the last one? Sean.
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: Nineteen eighty five nfl CO Defensive Player of the Year
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: and Hall of Famer Andre Tippett led the AFC with
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: sixteen and a half stacks, but also achieved greatness in
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: which martial art?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's a it's a form of judo.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Nope, taekwondo?
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: No?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Is it krobma goal? I don't know what is it?
• 36:59
  Speaker 12: No?
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: He had that seventh degree black belt in karate karate.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: I'm a karate man the inside.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Is this Ralph Machi.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I always love having Mike here because you always.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Get the Eddie Murph. Thanks.
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: Thanks new episode Monday, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanaka.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Nate in Connecticut with me.
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: Nate, can you guys to well?
• 37:29
  Speaker 13: Uh so, first off, I just want to merry Christmas everyone,
• 37:32
  Speaker 13: Thanks to Nate and thank you. And we have the
• 37:37
  Speaker 13: Jets this upcoming Sunday. And they say that this is
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: a rivalry, and yes it is, but this rivalry has
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: been like one sided forever and with the position that
• 37:49
  Speaker 13: the Jets are in this year, it's just gonna be
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: I think it's going to be a blowout win. Thank Patriots.
• 37:55
  Speaker 13: We're gonna we're gonna take this stuff. We're gonna hopefully
• 37:58
  Speaker 13: get the divisions with a bill lost and changing topics.
• 38:02
  Speaker 13: Since it is Christmas, ease, I just want to know
• 38:05
  Speaker 13: what are your favorite Christmas movies to watch?
• 38:08
  Speaker 14: Personally?
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: I'm a home Alone fan. One and two. The other
• 38:11
  Speaker 13: home alones I hate the ones are probably the best.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know what.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, there's a handful, all right, I think there's three.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: All right, thanks, you have a good one tomorrow. I mean,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Christmas Story is favorite of mine. You've seen them all
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: so many times that, like you know.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Diar Hard.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: There's four home Christmas.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: Movie, Christmas Vacation, Christmas Vacation on Christmas Vacation is pretty good.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: That's a good Home Alone. I think Nate's Nate's Home.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Is great too.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: But Charlie Brown Christmas, well, I don't actually just the
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: music too. I always put Andy Hart hated all painters
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: he could.
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: He didn't get it.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: You didn't understand the attraction.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I was. While Andy was.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: A little ridiculous with it, I kind of agreed with him.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: When I can't do it, I can't do like the
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: real Christmas ones. That's like you gotta it has to have.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Something sty one.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Don't know, it's a wonderful wife, right, Like what about Elf?
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: That was?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I like Elf?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Elf?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: And Christmas Vacation.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: It's funny.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: I do like Christmas Vacation though.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: It's it's like an hour and thirty. It's not like
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: a carpet wet. Yeah, the neighbors. They extended cuts better
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: because there's more of the neighbors than the extended cut.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: You know what's kind of scary when you're watching now
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: is that Rudolph claymation one.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: It's like it's scary.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, it's just it's it's kind of scary.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know, it's something creepy. The whole message is
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: like I have no use for you until you can
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: help me.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Right, it's true Christmas passage, that Christmas Christmas message, right,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: you know you get me.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: They are saying, oh, it needs work.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: It's like it's.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Really bad dentist.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: It wants to be a dentist.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: I did like the the Tim Allen Santa Claus movies too.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Those ones.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I saw the first one, the second one's back.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: There is no like a handful of five or six
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: of these movies that are just when we named them.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: They're just awesome. They're all rewatchable and fun.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: And none of them are dying now.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: So okay, let's go to de Seawan and Virginia. What's up?
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Godfather Great Christmas.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Potter is another one.
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: Yeah, So I just want to stalk about saying I
• 40:21
  Speaker 15: was at this game Sunday night, and the biggest thing
• 40:23
  Speaker 15: I can say is that I'm not very impressed by
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: this defense resimilarly to the secondary, because when I watch
• 40:28
  Speaker 15: these guys, it's like they don't challenge anybody. I mean,
• 40:31
  Speaker 15: like they don't have to get any interceptions, let alone
• 40:34
  Speaker 15: even like that passes away and it's like I'm watchings,
• 40:37
  Speaker 15: there always seem to be somebody open, you know, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 15: teams are able to consistently drive the ball, uh you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 15: every single job when they get it. And it's not
• 40:45
  Speaker 15: like we're the best defensive team in the red zone.
• 40:48
  Speaker 15: So when teams get down there, they most definitely crack
• 40:50
  Speaker 15: through to go get a touchdown, Like every time was
• 40:52
  Speaker 15: how many get down there? So when I'm looking at
• 40:55
  Speaker 15: this team right now, I think that the biggest thing,
• 40:57
  Speaker 15: and they called the pictures the foe, is this is
• 40:59
  Speaker 15: this defense and you can't depend on a second year
• 41:02
  Speaker 15: quarterback to pull you out. He's sucking your quarterback. I mean,
• 41:07
  Speaker 15: like you can't expect him to go ahead and be
• 41:09
  Speaker 15: the same the day. I mean, I don't see it
• 41:11
  Speaker 15: happened in the game.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I think everyone agrees with it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: To Shawn, if they lose, it's going to be because
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: of the defense.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I think you just hope that they're going to get
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: their guys back.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Thanks to you know, this defense has issues and we've
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: talked about them all year long, but not having Milton
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: Williams and Robert splane is is huge pieces.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: And if they get all those.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: Guys back and they can stop the run again, yeah,
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: you know it's hard to stop the pass when it's
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: third and four. You know, there's a lot of things
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: on the menu. There's a lot of options for the offense.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: You know, when you get teams off schedule and you
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: get them behind the chains and you get them into
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: third and longs, you know, that's when you can create
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: turnovers and pressure.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: In all that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Season though before when they were stopping the run, weren't
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: they rated low in pass defense?
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Well, they were rated low in terms of like adjusting
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: for schedule.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: You know know what that means?
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Way, Yeah, they're still rated low because that's hip and
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: takes into account the off.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I'm just talking about, like were they good against the
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: pass or not? I don't yes or no? Early what
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: do you think? I thought that they were ranked pretty
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: low against.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: No But what did you think that they were forget
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: about the range?
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was the one little weekness.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you. Yeah, I would agree with you.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: The numbers early on in the season were that, and
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: then the schedule took hold, and now their past defense
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: is rated much better because they played the Dylan Gabriels
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: and the cam Wards and and those players.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: So that's all you had to say.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Well that is what I said.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: But I mean, like, just as a point of comparison,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Drake May has had a pretty good year. We all agree,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Drake May, Yeah, pretty good, Key May. I still don't
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: know what that means, and if you would care to
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: explain it to me that I'd be happy.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: To take part.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I could be too completely wrong, but iff when they
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: list the guy like if your nickname was Pep, this
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: is Paul p P Parole.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: This is Pro Football reference, not Ppah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and for Pro Football Reference and for Drake they
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: had Drake Drake May May and as this as if
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Drake May was his nickname. And now I don't know
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: if it was a mistake.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: This is not it, that's not it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: It happened.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: This is yeah, because they put the nickname for all
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: the players on their website exactly, but they didn't they
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: do that as a reactive thing that they don't start
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: the trend. The trend is put on the website was.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: A mistake and that started. No.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: No, I would give a little bit of credit to
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: Drake May lover. I think that that's probably where this
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: all sort of started to originate. But the whole gist
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: of it is is that he's so good that he
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: doesn't even need a nickname.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: He's just Drake May, like.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: We don't need.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: I would say he was probably the one that started
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: to popularize. So the whole idea of the nickname is
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: that is that he's so good we don't need to
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: give him like some like you know, fugazi nickname.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: He's just Drake May. Okay, so he's Drake Drake May May.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I'd like to have a nickname for Drake.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I would I don't know, you Drake, what it would be.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: No, this is this is this is good. It's good.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: But just as a point of comparison, he's Drake, He's
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: got twenty five touchdowns and eight picks, and the Patriots
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: have allowed twenty four touchdowns and eight picks. I would
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: say that most everybody would say Drake May's having a
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: really good year. So those numbers would indicate the other
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: team's quarterbacks are having a pretty good year. You know.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Now that's just an average. Obviously that's not one guy.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: So you know, you may shut down, as Evan said,
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: the Dylan Gabriels of the world, but I think when
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: you faced some other guys you didn't fare quite as well.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, spiing Fresno, Who do you think is the best
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: team in the league now? And how much better are
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: they than the Patriots? And which is the better movie?
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Bat Santa or Christmas Vacation Bad Santa? Have you seen that?
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: That's a great movie? A great movie, A movie. I disagree.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: I like Vacation, but that Santa is a very funny.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I agree. I'd probably still say the Rams. I know
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Seattle just beat them.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: But I just I worry about Evans.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Guys, I would just.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Go on the quarterbacks, and I mean I think Seattle.
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: It's probably a corn flip between them, Seattle and the
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: Rams right now, but.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Seattle. And it's funny because I think
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Seattle is the inside track to get the number one seed.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: I think they'd the third best team in that division.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: San Francisco has impressed me a little bit more this
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: year than most because of the amount of injuries and
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: turmoil they went through. They did not look anything like
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: what they look like right now in the middle of
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: the season, and they just found a way to keep
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: doing just enough to win games. And now like it
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: looks like Party's healthy, Kittle's healthy, you know, five touchdowns
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: the other night. The defense has got a whole bunch
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: of guys that you don't really know. They're starting to
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: make plays. I think San Francisco is one of those
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: teams that no one's really talking about that I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: could be a real threat.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: It's like fun there's not a dominant team. There's not
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: one team that I would say I do like.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: The team, as you guys all know.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah know me too, me too, Spot. But you know,
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: if it's at the NFC championships in Seattle. I think
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: that might, you know, give Seattle a little bit of
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: an edge Darnald play.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think either one of those teams could win
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: in Seattle. I don't think Seattle could win, you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: on the road.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: Do you do have a concern that Darnold, just like
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: last year, is going to turn back into a playoff
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: Pumpkin And you don't have that same concern because Party
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: has been to a Super Bowl and Stafford's won a
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl. So I get Paul's points, but yeah, Party
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: has been probably the most efficient quarterback in the league.
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: When he's been healthy and been playing, He's been really good.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: I would put Seattle on a list of teams that, like,
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: you know, the most I mean the Patriots obviously, but
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: the most surprising teams that you didn't really see coming,
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: you know, I would say the Patriots. Seattle would definitely
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: be a couple of those.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: But you know, by far, Bailey says, you guys aren't
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: talking about the real reason players win MVPs. I don't
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: want to come off as snarky, but the reason josh
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: one MVP over Lamar is seeding a top two seed
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: has won it every year outside of one since at
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: least twenty ten, maybe even further back. It's been driving
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: me crazy hearing you guys say Alan won it because
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: he had less talent. I think Allan deserved it either way,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: because he led his team to more victories by being
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: more clutch. So with all that being said, if we
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: win a game versus the Dolphins or Jets and the
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Seahawks went out, Drake may is as good as a
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: lock for MVP. If we end up dropping to the
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: three seed, I'll be a little more nervous with Lawrence's
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: late season push, but I don't think he will drop.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Evan and Paul are my favorite on the pod, so
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I hope they respect my snarkiness and get mad about this,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: and don't get mad about this email.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't get mad at I would just say I disagree. Yeah,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: I would just say that.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the people that vote for
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: MVP explain publicly why they voted for MVP.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: There were stories written about there's because last.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: Year was a very very close and very contentious vote
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: between Lamar and Josh Allen, and all the people that
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: voted for Josh Allen is using the reasoning that Paul
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: and I have brought up, which is that he had
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: less around him than Lamar Jackson did. Not this not
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: that he had a better record.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I do appreciate the snark by the way.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: I like the way he led into it, like let
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: me tell you it was like the dirt diggler Mike,
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: you know, let me tell you what you did wrong.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Let me show you what you did do wrong.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: But I would just say, when you have an opinion,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't present it as fact, like let me tell
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: you why, well your opinion that your opinion is, you
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: know that one of the first two seeds. If that
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: was true, then why did Lamar win the first team
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: all pro voted by the same people. If Evan's not
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: right about the differentiation being the MVP, they felt like
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: the guy who did it with less.
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: I know a lot of Patriots fans are using this
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: as a feather Drake May's cap, But I would say
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: that this is a little bit of like correlation versus causation,
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: Like obviously the guys that are gonna be nominated for
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: MVPs are gonna be on the best teams, so like
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: them being a one or two seed is just kind
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: of a result of like they're having outstanding years and
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: have their teams in now standing positions, So like, I
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: don't know if that's necessarily like they are winning it
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: because they were the number one seed or the number
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: one seed because they're winning it.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, if you're gonna talk about an MVP,
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: like last year, Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season, but
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: they went nine to eight and didn't make the playoffs,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: I can't go that far down to give an MVP.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: But if you win fourteen games and this team wins
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: thirteen games but gets the three seed, I'm sorry, I
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: don't I'm gonna pick who I think had the better year,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I mean, like you can
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: make an argument Joe Burrow had a better year than
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: anybody last year, or Jamar Chase, you know those kind
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: of thing. But but if you can't win enough games
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: to at least make the playoffs, that's kind of like my.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Little MVP trivia. There's been one m VP. This is
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: twenty ten. That one without being a top two seed.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Who was it?
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Hint it was a major storyline year for him.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no idea because I don't remember Adrian Peterson.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I don't remember all.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: The seeds, like I don't remember all the different seeds,
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Right back to the phones we go and it is
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Dan in New Jersey. What's up Dan?
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: A happy holiday? Sellas you're talking about movies kind of underrated,
• 50:43
  Speaker 11: but I really like it. I look forward to watching
• 50:45
  Speaker 11: every year. And that's Family Man with Nicholas Cage.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I know that movie.
• 50:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah, twist on. It's a wonderful life. They's kind of
• 50:56
  Speaker 11: a full of themselves kind of Wall Street, you know,
• 50:59
  Speaker 11: hip Howard mergers and acquisition guy, and he gets the
• 51:03
  Speaker 11: chance to live and see his life as if he
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: were a tire salesman in New Jersey, which I relate to.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: You sell tires.
• 51:13
  Speaker 11: I don't still tires, Mike.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: What are you thinking of run flats?
• 51:17
  Speaker 16: Yeah?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: They're available time.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 11: But I just want to say I had the best
• 51:24
  Speaker 11: Christmas present this year already. I got a twelve and three.
• 51:27
  Speaker 11: Doesn't matter what. I'm going to the game on Sunday,
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: looking forward to it. I'm undefeated at mett Les and
• 51:32
  Speaker 11: my wife's become a big fan over the last few years.
• 51:36
  Speaker 11: So we're just looking forward to nice enjoying our Christs
• 51:40
  Speaker 11: with a playoffs down team.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: And I think you might be also with a lot
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: of Patriots fans.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry that that's the stadium you have to go to.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Dan, appreciate the call. Jean right Sinuh. I'm disappointed
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: that Paul does not know that the nineteen sixty four
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer reindeer movie, the clay mation movie.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, is the.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Original just do your job motivational movie that inspired Bill Belichick.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I think he didn't that one really on a Friday
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: or something. Yeah, yeah, what's.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: The what's the idea?
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: The like war? General guy? Yeah, yeah, it's war.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And well there's another.
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: One of your anonymous reports by Adam Shift.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: I get to think that Adam and then all of
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: a sudden he changed his tone. Is that what I
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: told him?
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Should I read a Night Before Christmas poem by Steve
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Sure that he writes in every year?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Is it Steve or Dan?
• 52:47
  Speaker 17: No?
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: This is from Steve, the original from Marblehead.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: This is a new one then, because Dan Dan writes
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: the Christmas pone the PF Steve. I don't know, but
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: I'll more than to see if Steve can not.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's go, because you know we gotta hurry.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Twas the night before Christmas in the AFC East, where
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins all feared a new beast.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: The Jets had been confident, with a good reason. Twelve
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: years in a row we have won the offseason. The Dolphins'
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: concerns have never been fewer until the game started, and yeah,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: we got Tua. The Bills were all snuggled in bed
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: with good cheer until the billboard arows, we'll take it
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: from here. That's a good one. The Pats had a goal,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: we will beat the bad teams. The schedule complied with
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: more than in our dreams. We shut down the backs
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: and receivers with glee. Eldred is stubborn. He still wants
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: a d We rattled off ten wins in a row,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: then a loss. We sure showed the league who's now
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: the boss. But Christian called in all weeping and crying.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Our teams are fraud. They were a paper lion. After
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: each game. Evan gives good ride up, but when coach
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: called his name, he couldn't stand up. In preseason games,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: film Paul's a film star, but forget the red Rider,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Paul wants a new car. Deuce knows the defense, but
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: never the spread. All of his entry songs got to
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: his head. No Tuesdays or Wednesdays, She'd only get bored.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Hey did Alex mention she won an award. He's got
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: big ideas, he's making big deals. He's winning the picks
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: because Freddy got feels. The fans and the callers will
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: want you to know. All we want for Christmas is
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: a fourth weekly show. You know what I'm gonna do.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to forward this to Alex so
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: that she can include it in the newsletter.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: That was very well done.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: And by the way, if you don't get the newsletter,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: you should. You can do it by going to uh,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: what is it? Patriots coms slash newsletter. I don't even
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: know what it is now, Google newsletter, Google it.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know it just comes to my email.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: Google it for the weekly roast of me.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but good good job, Steven, very good good job.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: And you know what he did he bolded where I
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: should put the accent. Actually really wanted me to make
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: sure that I got it right.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Dar used to do this.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Shout out to Shane in the middle of everyone, and
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: Shane hadn't worked there in like fifteen years. I'd be like,
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: shout out, Shane, stop Shane, like it would stop in
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: the middle.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Good stuff. Let's get back to the phones. I don't know,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: should I? Yeah, it's Christian Christ's Christmas? What's that Christion question?
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Well, because Christmas, guys. Yeah, No, nothing to go, nothing
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: to you guys about it isn't It's the time to
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: say thank you, guys for a year of content. Thank
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you guys for the time you guys spin away from
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: your families so that you can put on a show
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: so that we stand them.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Can all right, you're gonna make it listen.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm a little uh, I got the Christmas
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: cold like everybody else.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: You have consumption, but we need you at one hundred
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: percent for the playoffs. Christian, rest up, I know you do.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Ups and down for everybody right in the year ups
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: and downs to me, my company wait for me got
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: chosen as best international startup of the year, and then
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: past you know, uh so then that happens so well,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: and then that happens and so it's like up and down.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: That's how the year goes. And that's how this this
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: sport goes. And you guys guide us through from the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: fans that are just dejected every single loss to the
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: fans that think every wind means that we have the
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: dynasty back. You guys guide us through and you and
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: you're funny and you're nice and you're warm, and you
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: connect us all and you make us all out here
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: on the phone feel like we're in the booth. We
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: you guys agree together. So happy to leave it to
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: you guys. Thank you guys, and for all you do,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Beverly's do and Christian in La they go pack and
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: we really really dig you guys.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you all right, Thanks a Christmas.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Thanks for your loyalty.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Christian in La.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised at how nice that was.
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: You need all these characters on this show, right'll bring something.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: God bless everyone.
• 57:24
  Speaker 17: Reindeer had some real explosive plays and if we saw
• 57:30
  Speaker 17: his own defense, we knew that it was going to
• 57:32
  Speaker 17: give us the best ability to get the ball down
• 57:35
  Speaker 17: the field. Understood our opponents might have some difficulty with that.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: That was Friday.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: That was a Friday with Bill.
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: I said that that's all they came up when I
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: googled Bill Belichick. Rudolf the Redden's reindeer was the family guy,
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: him him doing that for that? Claire, Hello everyone, Illomer
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: and Christmas is coming to Claire.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: She just wants to send a warm Christmas us the pond.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the great year. Pat's win or lose. You
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: all make a Patriots fan being a Patriots fan awesome
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: than you.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Is it clear? Is it still Father Christmas?
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Over there?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Not Santa?
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Chris Kringle, Chris Kringle, Christmas st Nick? Yeah, back to
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: the phone. Let's see you gotta follow up? Christian Sam
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: in North Carolina? What's up? Sam?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Sam?
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: Hey, how about the Drake maybe nickname? I think I
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: got the meaning for it because I hated it before
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: I came up with my own meaning. But the kid
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: is so nice. You got to see his name twice,
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: and I came up with that. I stay in love
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: with the nickname myself.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, he's so nice, you gotta say it twice.
• 58:47
  Speaker 13: Damn right?
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha, all right? Thanks Sam? Merry Christmas. Bill's an Albuquerque, Hey.
• 58:55
  Speaker 14: Bill, Mexican, good afternoon.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Hey. Yes, Hey, the one.
• 59:02
  Speaker 14: Movie you guys haven't mentioned, which is uh drastically underwatched
• 59:08
  Speaker 14: is The Ref with Kevin Spacey, fellow Emerson graduate Judy
• 59:12
  Speaker 14: Davis and pre rape. Oh no, not Dennis Leary. It's Leary. Sorry,
• 59:20
  Speaker 14: I got the names. And it's called The Ref and
• 59:24
  Speaker 14: it takes place at Christmas. Kevin Spacey's a burglar and
• 59:26
  Speaker 14: he takes Judy Davis and I'm sorry, I'm in the
• 59:33
  Speaker 14: middle of I'm in the middle of doing something else
• 59:35
  Speaker 14: at the same time, putting up luminar.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know this movie.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: I've heard of it, but I don't think i've seen it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 14: God, dang funny. Kevin Spacey and Judy Davis fight all
• 59:44
  Speaker 14: the time, and uh, Dennis Leary's taking them hostage at
• 59:49
  Speaker 14: Christmas because he can't get out of the town. And
• 59:53
  Speaker 14: I swear to God.
• 59:53
  Speaker 15: You guys love.
• 59:54
  Speaker 14: It takes place in Connecticut, so it's New England, d
• 59:57
  Speaker 14: and internet.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 10: My wife is from connect I know, I know, Connects
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 10: kind of.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Divided.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 14: But you know, it's Christmas.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: It's Christmas, Christmas.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: That's good, that's good. I don't think i've seen it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't familiar with it.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: I definitely don't know the movie Deuce. Can you know
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: you can?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 14: It's criminally underwater.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, the rest I have to look.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: It's probably hard to find because.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Didn't he get let off of all those tracks?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: His career kind of ended.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: His career ended, But I thought he got off.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see him around trying? Can you know?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: As only you can't? And I'm sure you can explain.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Judy Davis, I don't know that one.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about, Judy Dent, hold on,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: it's a different.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Pain, Judy Dent.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know who that is. Yeah, yeah, Judy Davis David.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Sure I know who that is.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been around.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I'm sure she's fame.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's seventy.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: I'm like the Dressmaker Mystery Husbands.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: And I haven't seen any of these Barton.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: I think if dust Barton, if Deuce didn't know who
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: she was the route without looking up IMDb, then I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: feel better.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: No, not a lot of these movies I've seen. I'm
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: not surprised that Absolute Power. I did see, though, Clint Eastwood,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: I think that was a president assassination movie.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: I saw that was one of the Cohen brother movies.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now I haven't seen any of these
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: movies that she's been in so you.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: Know, sorry the ref I've never not familiar with it.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Aaron and Port Jarvis, New York. He says, this is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: the game I'm calling it now. Efton Ladarius Chisholm, the third,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty receiving yards, nine touchdowns. We've been
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: saving them all year for this moment.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: He might play.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: He could play. It was the new guy.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: No, sorry, the new guy.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: Well, they signed Michel to the practice squad, who has
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: uh played a little running back in the league. I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: don't think that's a great sign for Traveon Henderson's availability.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: And then they opped Brendan Himus as well, so I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: don't know if that's great.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Jared Wilson too.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: But with booty and booty and protocol and Douglas did
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: not play much with the hamstring issue, you you could
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: get this is what you.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Need, like he gets in the season. It's wins and MACS.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Elements. This is a preseason game. This is very shine.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: That's so true.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: The other team is not going to play for.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. It's basically no.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Ability and don't forget that, no ability to play for.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Let's just say he did play and he had a
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: great game, good for him? Would they carry would you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: consider no taking time away from Pop Douglas? No?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: Okay, but more importantly, they wouldn't either.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, like, if you had like ten catches for
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty yards and was just like unbelievable.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: That's what I don't I don't think he would take
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: anyone's job if they were healthy, even if he did
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: that in this in this particular game. Okay, Now, if
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: he had done that, say six weeks ago, and then
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: you know you're looking at like maybe we could give
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: this guy another look or whatever, I just don't think
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: in this game, okay, it would be considered.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Look you what you're thinking? You know what I mean.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Franklin and Baltimore and the event Papa Myers is listening.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: I just want to say that I'm happy for Jacoby.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: We've got his extension with the Jaguars. Still miss him
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: being on the team. We do too. I'll also extend
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the Merry Christmas to the PU crew and hope that
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Santa left Paul a car size shape gift near his
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: house so we can stop cheating on us. PU faithful.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to happen a little Carvana delivery.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: It's going to happen.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: No, don't put that.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: No lessis bow and no bow no.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 17: Boo.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's think.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of work to be able to buy
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: a car, keep it secret, have it there on Christmas.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: That sounds like it's unrealistic.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just got a good Saturday and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: linfe sketch.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: I hadn't seen it from a few years ago, but
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: they set that up that like the husband buys the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: wife of car and then she freaks out.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Because like, we can't afford this. He has no idea. No,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I did, like two thousand dollars down. She's like, yeah, down,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: we have a monthly basic what. Yeah, it's good. It's
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: a good one.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Joe writes in in Michigan. I think the Patriots will
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: have a very tough game versus the page the Jets
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Patriots twenty four just twenty one. Defense is real concern
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: for the Patriots. Had Ravens rode the running game with
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: their lead. I don't think the Patriots win oc for
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Ravens or HC must have the peak Carrol syndrome.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: I agree about the Baltimore game, but there's no comparison
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: in talent. I don't think the Jets are capable of
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: doing that.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, even like their run game has some like infrastructure
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: things that are nice with like Breese Hall and their
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: offensive line, and their numbers are still terrible. Like you know,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: you look at it on paper and you're like, oh,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: they could probably run the ball a little bit.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: They're like twenty fourth in the EPA.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: Like it's like it's like the best part of their team,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 7: you know it, but it's still.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: Not a solid player. But did he even play?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 16: He?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Like, am I miss? Is my timeline off? Like did
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: he even play last week?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: He did?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: He came back, Okay, so maybe he plays. I don't know,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: maybe he breaks a long run. He's not really over.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: The sixteen carries for fifty.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: Four, okay, so he's healthy enough.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: That's the one thing is he you know, there are
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: some they do have some explosive runs on tape. You know,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: they think he's eleventh and explosive runs this year Breese Hall.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: So it's not like great, but the numbers say that.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: That's the one area of their team that's not bottom
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: of the league. Is their run game.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Have a modicum of focus. Like I'll give you the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: Thursday night game. Let's go to the Thursday night game.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: Don't allow ad Mitchell to run by you, Christian Gonzales,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: because maybe he'll catch it this time. Yeah right, you
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: know that's the only way they're going to score is
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: those kinds of plays if you have a lapse in concentration.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: I mentioned I saw something this week that your boy
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: Shats had. The Jets special teams EA is like historical. Yeah,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: one of the it's like the third best special team
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: season of all times they've had.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: They have a really good returner who I'm baking on
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: his name right now, but will Yeah, but they they've
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: had some good returns.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: They had one game earlier this year. One of their
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: three wins where I think they had two is right
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: before they played the Patriots in Week eleven.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's Isaiah Williams. I'm not sure he's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: the good punt returner with two punt return for touchdowns.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: And then I don't know how to pronounce the name
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: is is it Woghu has a kickoff return?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So I think that that was the one of
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 7: their three wins. I think it was the week right
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 7: before they played the Patriots on a week eleven, they
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: had a I think it's a punt and a kickoff
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: return touchdown in the same leave and that's how they
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: won the game.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: So that's it.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: That's the formula. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: The the head coach.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: Have some focus and you should be able to keep that.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: You know that team at back.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Audrey and New Hampshire says, oh yeah, gosh, miss Molly. Shoot,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: we absolutely must change the pix order next year. Mike
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: can't be this bad at picks and now he's just
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: accepting it as truth. Let's have mister Sharp, Pauly p
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Goo first.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, then try to keep that in mind.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Then Evan Alex, Mike and King Freddy last, because he's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: the boss that still goes around the deck seating. Give
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Deuce a chance to hear a bit more about the matchups.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: If after this change he's still lasting the picks and
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: sneaky negative, then fine, shake.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: It up, fred a new year of big week for Mike.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: He did not finish under five hundred with a spread.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I appreciate the support. Audrey.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: You're right, I have kind of accepted at this point.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: But you know, we'll get to this in about twenty minutes, Fred,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: but the wiley veteran asserted his dominance. No, oh, oh curse,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: you know the last couple of weeks.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, he heard it.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: No, he heard the footsteps takes up the pace. And
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: he responded, according, right.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, like it like that. I can't wait to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: hear I figured because Alex asked me, would the other
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: are you know Alex Francisco be here today? Though, depends
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: on how she did in the pick. If she did well,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: she'll be She.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Had she had a drum up a Romandree interview real quick.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: She said she had a really good human interest story
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: that she's working on. And I said, well, I'm neither
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: human nor interested.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Peace. So I'll see uh.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: El from Wisconsin.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Last week was tough, he says. The loss against Buffalo
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: caused everyone all week to talk about Drake coming back
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: and playing in the cold.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Please no more.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: I can't take any more of that mind numbingly stupid talk. Okay,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: you know the whole thing about you know, he needs
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: to come prove that he can play in the needs
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: to prove that he can come back.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: So you don't think that they did anything. Sunday against Baltimore.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: That doesn't do it that.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: He was already convinced he didn't need that.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Well, but that, but you didn't like to see it.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: He I mean, it doesn't matter if you.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: It wasn't about the game, he thought.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: I just thought it was cold Sunday night in Baltimore
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: from behind. I think that was kind of interesting.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: I think so too, And I think he did right.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: So I thought it was interesting the week before too,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: when it was cold and they were losing and they
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: didn't come from behind.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: It that's the day.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: He's just talking about the talk.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: I find I find the actual analysis of the games
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: to be interesting.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: So we do Wow, that's what we do.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: That's we do.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: I don't just pick and choose the analysis of the
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: games that I liked the way they finished el Wisconsin.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: You've been scolded, no, I just like your pants have
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: been pulled down and you've been space.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: It's not a mind nothing stupid, audience. It's not a
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: mind numbingly stupid argument to say that he had a
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: great comeback against Baltimore. That's not mind numbingly stupid.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Sorry, if you want to counter, the floor is yours.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: You didn't hear what I said. What the comeback against
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: Baltimore and you know, on the road in the cold
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: was not mind numbingly stupid to talk about and be
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: excited about. Right, But I'll bet you he doesn't think
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: it is either.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Would you point? Would you?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Would you say it?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: The only the only that was done was because they lost?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: Hold on?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Would you? Did you say it's dumb to say after
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: the Baltimore game he's going to do this every time?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's dumb.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the people aren't doing that.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: And he thought the other side of the argument was dumb.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: He can't do it, yeah, because he hasn't done it.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: No, but Patriots fans will say that that, see, he
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: can do it. It's over. We got a lot of
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: that in the postgame show.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Right, and he would I would imagine L might think.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, I'm going to say that L thinks that's great.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: He's silenced everything.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, all right, well maybe i'll.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: Because the only thing that was stupid about the argument was.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: That they lost.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll let it call it for.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: What it was.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: A great email. I'm not picking on that this you are, No,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not, because this is what this is. I think
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: a typical response right now from Patriots fans, why are
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: they talking about? And Fred dealt with this during the game,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: people would jumping the ship, right people. People were really
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: upset about it. So was it really that dumb? Like
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: there were a lot of people that were talking about
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: in analyzing things, and then they came and they made
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: a comeback and Drake silenced the critics. I think that's relevant, Okay,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: I do now, at least for a week, he silenced
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: the critics. I don't know, Like like Felger always says,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: you know, one of the few things that he says
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: that I actually find interest. I don't know what's going
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: to happen in the future. I don't know what's like.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: I can't see the future like everybody else, Like Patriots
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: fans know exactly what's going to happen. I can't. I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: don't know what's going to happen. Otherwise I would stop
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: working here and I would bet all the games and
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: that would be my job. But I don't know what's
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: going to happen.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Do you, yes? I do. I have a feel for
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: the lending.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: Okay, so can you tell me, yes, what's going to happen?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: What do you want to know.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: I want to know if the Patriots are going to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl. Probably not, okay, I'll look unclear,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: Probably not, it's not that's I'm not that doesn't really
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: read it me now rereading. Yeah, that's what I'm looking
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: for morel Thank you.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Uh Fred ask Evan. If the A gap is next
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: to the B gap, also, if the B gap is
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: next to the C gap. One more thing. Is the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: C gap minus the B gap equal A gap. Thanks
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: for your anticipated cooperation.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: A gap squared plus the B gap square.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: If A equal C and B equals A, does A equal.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: C Pythagorean theorem? Yeah?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Transitive, yeah, one technique er I was. I was no surprise.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: I was really bad at that logic course in college.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, I was pretty good at logic.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: I was okay like the first few weeks and then
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: I just lost interest.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Had you and I logic?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Is that like two trains leave for going these speeds?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: A question? Yeah?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: There was more in depth, like than like it started
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: with the transitive stuff, which okay, I get that, but
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: then it really complicated and I was like I'm out there.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, not for me.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: Not exactly a mathematical genius, which is why thirteen accord
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: with English.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: Guy, you must have done good in English, like English
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: SATs that stuff.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Ish is you know, I actually get better in math
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: on my SATs than I did English. Yeah, me too, well,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: most most people do. Really Yeah, because I'm not in class.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't. I did better in English, but because I'm
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: that bad at math, but most people do better at math,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but classes checking my grades in math were
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: not as good as otherwise.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, with my son who's taken like
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: all these advanced classes, like some of the kids get
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: like like I would get to the end of those
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: tests and I'm like, I haven't taken this yet, but
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: like he has been in advanced class, so he's taken it,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: so he knows what he's doing, you know. So sometimes
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: I feel like you're set up to fail with some
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: of that stuff. Anyway, But like the analogies and all
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: that stuff.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: I barely made geometry.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was great at geometry.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: See that was the only one. Like the algebra stuff
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: I couldn't do Trigg Calculus, I really struggled. But geometry
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: was the only one that I was reasonably And you
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: know what.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I blame it because I think I have an aptitude
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: for I had bad teachers.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, math, I.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Think your teachers make all the difference in the world
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: in math, it really does.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: I blame it on the teacher. I do love it.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I do I love it.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: I think there's some teachers that they can explain it,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: like Bill Belichick, like he can break it down for
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: you and so you can understand it. And I think
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of teachers when it comes to math, can't
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: I agree one hundred percent. And geometry was a prime
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: example for me of that. And I really liked the teacher.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: His name was mister Ron Poscis. If he's still out there.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: I emailed him at some point as an adult to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: thank him.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: But loved the.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: Guy and just super funny, made it fun. And I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: had like a bad first test grade and I was
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: so disappointed and letting him down that it was like
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: a switch went off and I just started flashcards and.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: He will wear this geometry. But he was funny teacher.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: Some of his favorite junior year, some of his he didn't,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: but he had great ones like look it up in
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: your funking wagonoles Like he'd yell that at you if
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: you didn't know somebody to flip it over and do
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: it on your backside, you know, Like he.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Just was funny. He got high school humor.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: And it was also one of the classes where I
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: remember he was making a joke and everyone in the class.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Was laughing and I farted.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: And like the whole class everybody heard it, but everybody
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: just kept laughing anyway, Like I wasn't even that embarrassed
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: because everybody was already laughing anyway. But he was a
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: great teacher, and I always think of that teacher and didn't.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Do anything specific besides humor that they made you understand.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know that's a good Like we used
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: to do a thing called pick a quiz where you literally,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: like in geometry, you know you have to know like
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: all the different proofs and stuff, and you know, what
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: is this rule And he'd go around you'd have to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: pick one out of the hat and like the pressure beyond.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: So I don't know if I mean, he definitely just
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: made me want to work harder for him, So I
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: don't know if it's I mean, I remember.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: When I went on deductive Proof, I just got I
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: love I loved.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Him when I finally figured out algebra, like like it
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: was a light bulb that went off and it became
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: really easy. But it had nothing to do with what
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: the teacher was teaching.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: You how every kid in my class felt and I
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: was the one that just didn't get it. Yeah, And
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: when we got to algebra two, it was like why
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: am I bother what? I couldn't do it in Aldred
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: And you know I.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Took in the eighth grade. Do you take college Matt, Like,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I got to college math and I'm like, this is
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: not for me.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: So I had I had to take two maths sciences
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: and those you know, I didn't really love either one.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: Because I was a journal as a major, I didn't
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: have to do a lot of that. I took a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: stats class thinking, you know, you know me that I'm
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: a geek, I can do.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I got about.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: Halfway through the semester I was I was rocking it, okay,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: And then the last half of the semester I was
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: like this. I was like trying to run the clock out,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: like I was handing the ball off, you know, we
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: got to keep the clock running here.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: And I just made it with like a B minus
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: Speaking to Dennis Larry. He was one of my professors
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: at Emerson. No really, he taught it was comedy right else,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's punk class.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: I actually in grad school. The only is in grad
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: school is grad school. But it was the only B
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: plus I got was in comedy writing, which was like
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: the thing. Everything else a's because it's easy.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: So what do they what do they teach you?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Like, typically comedy writing?
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, concept, So they would usually present you with like
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: a topic or you know, some type of thing and
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: then you'd have everyone would have to write off of that.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did some of that.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: I mean mine was in you know, in television production,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: so we had to write a sitcom script. So I
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: was learning about you know, comic beats and all that
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: kind of stuff. The rule of three is a big
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: one in comedy, like those kind of things.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: But I wrote a just shoot me specs script episode.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: So what's the rule of three? Like they're like always
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: repeating it's set up, set.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: Up big, yeah, like you know or you know, when
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: you do callbacks too, we talk about just comedic devices.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Like I don't remember all of it, but but it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: still pops up sometimes and you you know, like three
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: everything is three.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: You don't get the Santa from the Rootolph, you'd like
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: write out a whole script and you'd say then be
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: like needs work, not funny.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Right, Where's where's rabel mat any any word from him?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: His hands are up either. I will say last night
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: we were think they ran a little late.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Last night.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: We were supposed to interview I was, I think we'll
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: run it at halftime here I interviewed Vidarian Low. But
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: they were good forty five minutes an hour behind when
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: they thought they were.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: So maybe things are little taking a little extra time.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Make sure you hammer the jetsys.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Uh chatted Atlanta Rights and so. Marlon Humphreyes just said
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: on a podcast regarding the uncalled PI against Booty quote,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I honestly feel like I did tackle the bro. I'm
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: pretty sure that should have been a PI, but they
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: didn't call it. So I will take it where we
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: take it. That being said, when Paul mentions investigations into refereeing,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: what would that consist of, I'm curious. I'm not familiar
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: with the league's method on that. There would never be an.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: Investigation, Yeah, not unless they Okay, here's.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: Mike, I'm not doing this tomorrow. You're right, we're not,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 8: but thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday we tapped Garrett good Guy Award winner.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: I've he been a good guy for.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 8: You Yeah, yeah, great.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 18: You know, I mean a lot of additions in the
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 18: offseason and Garrett was one of them. And he's he's
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 18: been out there in the middle of our offense and
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 18: helps coordinate everything that we do with the line of scrimmage.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 18: You know, he's brought a lot of experience, brought a
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 18: lot of knowledge and you know, so again it has
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 18: really helped us and you know, we got hopefully a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 18: lot of football left the play and you know, it's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 18: a great honor for him, you know, to be able
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 18: to represent our football team to you guys and in
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 18: a positive way. So the disappointed I didn't win that
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 18: in my eight years here, Mike, how.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 16: What is this week for the for you as as
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 16: a football team, but also on and off the field
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 16: with the players and their families.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: And what they come over to.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 18: It's just always a balance of you know that we
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 18: wage in these these holidays with Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 18: trying to have a balance of getting the work done
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 18: that we need, trying to focus on what's important here
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 18: at work and practice in and then and when that
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 18: wraps up and we're done and being able to compartmentalize
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 18: and go and be with family and the people that
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 18: come in and that have helped our players, our coaches,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 18: and our staff get to where they are.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: None of us did this on our own.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 18: There's a lot of people that have helped us get
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 18: here as made sacrifices, and so anytime that we can
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 18: have to spend with them on important days, I'm all
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 18: for it. But then the most importantly is what we
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 18: do on the field, Like you said on Sunday, there's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 18: a lot.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Of cricks in there and make an impact as a way, the.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 8: Whole lot of experience one, I mean Craig. Craig was
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 8: in college for a while.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 18: We joke about it, but you know, he's that's he's
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 18: started and played a lot of games, seen a lot
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 18: of football. But I think he's continued to learn and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 18: none of stand and develop and it's gotten better each
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 18: day and he's been durable and available. And you know,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 18: the more that you're out there, the usually the better
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 18: that you get.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: What made him the game captain, Like, what was the
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: thought process before we had felt that he wasn't.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: No, he was.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: You've been tracking.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 18: He's pretty close to Mike and you've been on him.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 18: You know, it was our first you know, we had
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 18: gone through most everybody and you know there's other options,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 18: I think, obviously, but just trying to I thought it
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 18: was the right time with Craig and you know the
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 18: amount of snaps that he's played for us and what
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 18: he's done, and you just trying to continue to build
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 18: the young players on this roster, whether that's on the
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 18: field and or developmental or a leadership role or whatever.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: That may be. I guess that was just the idea.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Robert was out last week.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Do you expect him to practice at all the sweet information.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 18: I don't unless we get a Christmas miracle, Tony tim
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 18: starts walking or something.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 12: Christian Gazalis mentioned that very early on you talked about
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 12: winning the division. Why was it important to express that,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 12: you know, to the group, put that out there early
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 12: in your tenure.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 18: I think when just to make sure that everybody understood
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 18: what the expectations were. That there's a lot of ways
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 18: to win football games in this league, and with a
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 18: lot of different players and a lot of different lineups
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 18: and a lot of different schemes and however we need
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 18: to do to win football games. But that was going
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 18: to be the goal. And making sure that they all
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 18: understood that, making sure that they they knew that this
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 18: was the priority. And that's what we've tried to do.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 18: Now we haven't done it, you know, we still have
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 18: opportunities to do it, but just making sure. But I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 18: understood what the expectations were.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 8: Artist is ready to take the bigger whifload.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean again, we'll take him off the field
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 18: and then somebody else will.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: You know, well, this guy's not getting at it, you know.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 18: I mean, we we only got one football so we'll
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 18: try to you know, but he is prepared. It was
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 18: unfortunate his first week that he busted his tail to
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 18: get in there on that Thursday night game and we
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 18: handed to him huge run, questionable holding call, and you know,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 18: he had some other plays in that first game. And
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 18: I actually joked with him yesterday, I said, hopefully, I mean,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 18: you know, if you get in there, we rip a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 18: couple of runs off there, you make a couple of
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 18: plays that they don't get called back. And you know,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 18: he was laughing, but he's done nothing but come in
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 18: and be a professional and learn and be ready to go,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 18: and I know that when his opportunity comes, he'll take
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 18: advantage of it.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 19: Coach, talk about their Mumford and the job he's done
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 19: in your six on line packages coming in. You've been
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 19: doing a lot more of that this season with that
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 19: twenty two rhinal stuff. Just talk about him and what
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 19: he's brought to the team.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 8: Hear that, Sophie about scared me up there?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 20: Yet?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 8: Do you hear that? Get you to get that tenor.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: There you go?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 8: There you go, don't do that.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 18: I saw a different there, I think than the one
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 18: that left here, and again.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 8: I havn't spent time in another team. Came here and
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: I think it.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 18: Was okay, and then getting claimed by Cleveland coming back,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 18: I think we all, including Fayer, saw a different version
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 18: of him, one that was much more prepared, ready to
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 18: go physically and has done that role before. It's helped
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 18: us hopefully, and you know, go weather and play tackle
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 18: or post spots.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 8: On the offensive line.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 18: So I think we've just seen a different version if
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 18: they are, and I think he's trying to take advantage
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 18: of his opportunities.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: What stands out to you from the Jets play style
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: and where they'll.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 18: Challenge you well up front. I really enjoy watching their
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 18: offensive line. I think it's a it's a good group.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 18: It's a very young and talented group. On the outside,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 18: it's a I love the play demeanor of the guys
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 18: inside with Myers and tipped in and uh Simpson and
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 18: they they they come off the ball. They they're good
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 18: in their combinations. So they really allow you know, most
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 18: their runners but mostly Briest to you know, get going.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 18: There's not a whole lot of first contact and he's
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 18: able to. You know, the average is over four point
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 18: two yards of carry. So I think that, you know,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 18: I like that group. Just you know, they moved this
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 18: last time they ran a football against us. The recipe
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 18: for winning is not going to be to run for
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 18: sixty five yards and give up one hundred and forty
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 18: yards on the ground. I've told the team that multiple times.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 18: So Athletic defense young, playing some young guys obviously with
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 18: McDonald and and him continuing to get better and his
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 18: length and Jermaine Johnson and you know Briggs and then
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 18: obviously Phillips is the studying case. And their linebackers are fast.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 18: They run their fourth tackle for lost percentage. So if
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 18: you don't come off on them, or you know, you don't,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 18: you don't get somebody up to him, they're going to
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 18: make the tackle and they're gonna gonna be there in
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 18: a hurry. So you know, we'll have to we'll have
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 18: to do a great job of trying to get somebody
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 18: on those linebackers.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: I know he's had a or he had else starting
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: to the regular season.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 9: Both people from impressed you the most about being the
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: way he's kind of settled the job.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 18: I just, you know, he's done a nice job. He's
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 18: you know, in accurate. I think that he's kept a
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 18: good demeanor. I think he's practiced well as far as
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 18: just mentally and then talking about the weather and you know,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 18: finding you know, whatever that is. You know, Tom's coach
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 18: kickers and all different climates, but I haven't and I said,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 18: so whatever the plan is to prepare to kick in
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 18: the weather and all these different things.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: That he's trying to do or has done.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 18: And you know, I just think he's got a pretty
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 18: steadying demeanor and has work to improve and the consistency,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 18: you know, with his approach and all those other things.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 16: Micha Romano was saying that he maybe enjoyed a blitz
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 16: pick up in the series before the final series more
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 16: than the twenty one yard touchdown run. Hows that made
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 16: you feel as a coach when you hear the running
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 16: backs talking like that.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 8: Well, they have a critical job.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 18: And I you know, anybody, not anybody, but most players
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 18: in the league, if you hand it off and there's
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 18: a hole, they're going to score. But very few can
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 18: one handle the mental challenge of what the protection is
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 18: and and what the scan is. And you know, I've
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 18: got will to week safety or I've got you know,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 18: whoever you have, and being able to some of these
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 18: presentations that the defenses present. You know, you may be
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 18: up in the line of scrimmage and have to get
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 18: back out and be able to block somebody and then
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 18: physically being able to do it and stand up to
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 18: them and block them and stop their charge and not
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 18: drop your head and all these different things. And so
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 18: I think that that is a something that he does
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 18: very well. And again, when your best players the quarterback,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 18: it's important that you protect them. So I appreciate that,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 18: but I don't that doesn't surprise me.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Their kickoff, Come on, you just got right you, come on,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: what do you see from their kickoff?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 8: Come onicle?
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 11: A couple of.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: A couple of coaches and quarterbacks have weighed in on
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: the merits of pure progression passing against coverage.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 19: Reads sort of where do you.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 18: The guy that's open in the progression and where that
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 18: progression takes you? The first one that you see that
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 18: usually leads to positive yards.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: It limits negative plays. Obviously, there's times.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 18: Where we're gonna have to hold the ball, move guys
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 18: down the field and progress. So I try to keep
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 18: it as simple as possible, because I think that holding
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 18: the ball in this league just leads to turnovers, to sacks,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 18: to longer yardage, and the more that the quarterback gets hit,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 18: the more negative things have a chance to happen. Turnovers,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 18: you know, all the other obvious things.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 8: Sorry, God, did kickoff for turns for the Jets?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: They get leave the league.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 11: Get kickoff?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: Return to average is what are you seeing from them on.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 18: That great scheme? Excellent players, very good returners. We'll have
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 18: to cover with a purpose this week. And you know
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 18: obvious the you know one running a running back that
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 18: really runs through arm tackles and has a good job.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 8: He's done a great job of doing that.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 18: Mitchell obviously he's great putt returner, but those skills have
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 18: translated over to the kickoff returns. So as much as
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 18: they kick away from you know, the nay that they
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 18: now Mitchell's getting a lot of those or Williams is getting.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 19: A lot of those.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 18: So we'll have to make sure that we're good that
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 18: the space is limited and again one guy is probably
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 18: not going to be able to do it.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 8: And get them down.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 18: And that's been Special teams has been a very very
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 18: strong point for these guys. Fake to punt, you know,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 18: the kickof the putt returns has been a weapon. And
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 18: you know fourteen yard average, you know, two touchdowns, one
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 18: called back. So this is these are making sure that
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 18: we're matching everything that they do from a special team
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 18: standpoint critical phase. But thank you guys and Mary Kraus stress,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 18: I appreciate everything you guys do.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 9: Keep it.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Tell you guys, watch what happened all right? Yes?
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: Uh, your performance, you know the performance like sexual excuse me,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: Willy are you saying or something?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 13: Roll in my gear?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: So what you're saying to me, I'm sorry you're gear,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: Willie my stick.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 6: He's not going to say the stick in front of
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: the children.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: Does he hey our friend that we were just talking
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: about before we went I'm there. Marcopello already posted on Instagram.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 12: Get the tree down, that's over, Take the lights off.
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  Speaker 20: Turn I'm gravy and I'm graeve about you whatever you
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 20: want you.
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  Speaker 3: I want to thank you all for doing shows Tuesday
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: and today. Most podcasts are putting out nothing, what or
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: best of shows. The radio was putting their c team
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: out there no offense. Paul as someone who has.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: To tomorrow, I want to look it was fighting the eye.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 20: I don't want to tell him what a sheep lying
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  Speaker 20: no good Robbie for blushing mollife, snake licking, dirt eating
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 20: and bread over stuff, ignorant but fucking dom kissing, brainless, homeless, heartless, fatass,
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  Speaker 20: bug eyed Steple like it's funny, wormhaded sack of monkey.
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  Speaker 3: He is a know yah, I'm just tuned in live
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  Speaker 3: for the.
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  Speaker 1: First time ever.
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  Speaker 5: Oh whoa excellent.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people at home Christmas welcome boy manage
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: you know, sitting by the yule tide and uh listening
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: to pursue.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 16: Sitting by the yule log, Sitting by the yule tide,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 16: some people are by the ocean.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, not the river, though, no river wouldn't have
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: a Yule tide.
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  Speaker 3: Correct to everyone out there listening, have a merry Christmas.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: That's what you celebrate.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: Ho ho ho. All right Backhan and Patriots Unfiltered eight
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: five five pass five hundred is the hotline podcast at
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: Patriots dot com. Is the email address is Alex coming.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think is.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: But it's a time here.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: What time is it that we can do the co
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: Pilot Question of the Week real quick before do that?
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, right, here we go.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: It's time for the co Pilot Question of the Week,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: presented by Microsoft Copilot. Where every day is Game Day
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  Speaker 6: and where every decision is powered by insight and innovation.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: Microsoft technology helps to make decisions faster, Insight sharper, and
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: strategy is more adaptive. All right, guys, this week we're
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: talking about Pro Bowl. Drake May made the Pro Bowl.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: Christian Zaliz made the Pro Bowl.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: He stomped me.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: Who stops me?
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: Who are the top three Patriots of all time that
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: have gone to the.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Most Pro Bowls?
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: Tom Brady, Tom Brady?
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  Speaker 8: How many?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: This is just with the Patriots too.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: I have to clarify if anyone's going to check my
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: math on this seventeen fourteen, fourteen times number two. Anybody
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: any guesses on two and three, I'd say John John
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  Speaker 6: Hannah is third with nine Pro Bowls.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it's one more, Pippot, we were.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Just talking tip it actually five five down.
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  Speaker 6: He's tied with Richard Seymour, Nope, Wes Welker, Gronk, Will
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  Speaker 6: fork uh Gostowski all five at four one more guy,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: you're thinking off the beaten path.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Mike Rabel was just.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: Talking special teams.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: Oh Slater, Slater, Oh yeah.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Ten Pro Bowls.
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  Speaker 3: So oh shore, there you have it.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: So Mike, Mike clearly has been angry that I've been
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: getting the answers, so he decided to go. He decided
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: to find something that one of the very few things
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: that I have no interest in, my special team, no
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: Pro Bowls, I could care less. And there you go.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: Congratulations. So yeah, there you have it.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're waiting for Alex.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: Alex coming out of this, like several times during the
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: show that she's working on something with Ramandre Stevenson and
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: she was not taking over all the time.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Well, she's dedicated, and she she writes, really.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, all right, all right, well we'll get it.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: It's that time of the week, the week, the week.
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  Speaker 1: And cue.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Paul, how do we do?
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  Speaker 6: So?
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: As I eluded, Fred and Evan twelve and four, Alex
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: and Paul eleven and five, Mike eight and eight. However,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: with the spread, Fred joins Alex at eleven four and
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: one in second place, time in the second place, third
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: place behind Evan at twelve three and one. Wow, Evan
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: twelve three and one with the spread bread Evan really
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: making a charge, but he's he's well in the rears.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you know.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: Mike nine six and one, good job.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Respect you.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: And feeling the pressure of trying to catch the uncatchable
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: Freddie feels Paul eight seven and one. So dropping three
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: games at this time, this is not the time of
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: year to be dropping three games.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 19: In a week.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: It was cold in the last week. You couldn't you
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: didn't perform in the cold.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: I think that's an excellent point. Did you notice how
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: cold I was during the post games? You remember how
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: cold we were?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I was cold.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: You need to get the Scooba suit.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: It was so much like germ infestation going on.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: I think we talked the bullet though, because I still
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: feel great.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think my tickle is kind of gone, so
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know. We'll see anyway. The overall standings, Fred
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: and Alex remain well, no, they are tied now because
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: Fred pick picked up a game one fifty six eighty
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: three and one, so that tied in first place. Paul
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: is in third at one forty nine ninety and one,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: Mike one forty five ninety four and one, and Evan
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: won forty four to ninety five in one.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't go double. I can't go double.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: Last place with the spread. Freddie feels one twenty nine,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: one oh eight and three. There was another push this week, uh,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: Paul one twenty two, one fifteen in three. Evans strong
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: week puts him over the five hundred market at one
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: nineteen one eighteen and three, Alex one sixteen one twenty
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  Speaker 5: one and three, and deuce one oh one. Good congratulations
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: vendor for breaking one hundred, one thirty six and three.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, we got to two weeks to go
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: in the regular season.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: I can't I can't be in last place in both
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: I got a hold of it, an ar.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you're gonna have to be creative with your
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: picks then this week.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: So yeah, next year, I'll go first and we'll see
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: if that makes any difference.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 6: All right, just saying I never complained about having to
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: go first.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: It was the that's true, you know.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you've resigned yourself to.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Being I've also resigned myself. Right.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: All right, Well we start off with Christmas at one
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: o'clock on Netflix. Remember that though this is on Netflix. Uh,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: it's Dallas six eight and one at Washington four and eleven,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: Dallas by seven.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: That's by seven.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 13: Huh.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take Dallas to win. I'm gonna
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: take the points.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: Uh short week, Christmas, YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: Dallas still got a chance. No, So they're out of
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. I believe they were eliminated, right, Okay, I
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: didn't know.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: That's another one. Don't check it. Yeah, just go ahead it.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean that plays into a lot of these picks.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: I believe that they were eliminated. Are they six eight
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: and one?
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: They are eliminated?
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're gonna need that, Matt. So, I don't
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: know where you got that info from but keep that
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: website up so we can figure this out.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: All right, So Alex is not here, so I will
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: actually echo Deuce's pick. I will take Dallas to win,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: but I'll take the points. And I think there's a
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: chance that Washington wins this game outright, But I'm not
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: quite ready to go there.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm there as well. I'll take Dallas to win,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: but I'll take the points. It's Christmas. Washington doesn't want
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: to No one wants to be there, you know, nobody
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: wants to be there. But they also don't want to
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: play poorly in front of their fans.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: No one wants to be there for any of these games.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I don't think anybody League
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: wants to play on Christmas.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: I thought. I think it's funny. People were like, you know,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: years ago, they shouldn't make the teams playing Christmas this
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: year it's the games aren't good enough on Christmas.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's ridiculous that they're not only playing
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: on Christmas, they're adding games on Christmas.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: Thursday, four thirty on Netflix, it's Detroit eight and seven
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: at Minnesota seven and.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: Eight, Detroit by seven and a half. Mike no, I
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: know it's unfair when Mike makes picks without knowing.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: No, jj M nine.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: And what are the implications.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: For this game any well, Detroit has to win there
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: in dire straits.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: And Minnesota's out.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. In the regard, I'll take
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Detroit and I'm gonna lay the points.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. I saw that
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: Max Brosemer guy play that game in Seattle and it
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: may have been the worst quarterback performance I've watched. So
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take Detroit both ways.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Detroit both ways, all right. The third
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: of the triple header, Christmas Night, eight fifteen on Prime.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a different stream.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is on Prime, not Netflix. The twelve and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: three Broncos are at the six and nine Chiefs. We're
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: looking for a little Christmas miracle here.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 5: You'll need America quarterback denver By thirteen and a half.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 5: No Gardner, minshew, it'll be the guy from South Dakota
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: State there.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do I couldn't do it.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: Olu Kanla thirteen and a half, Ola denver By thirteen
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: that Kansas City.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well they allowed it because this is such a hostmatch.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: And because Mahomes is out. Yeah, that was that the
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: line is right, Denver was playing on the road because
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: out it was originally scheduled to be in Dens.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: You guys see the deal that Kansas City got from
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 6: Kansas to move. I mean, guys, over a billion dollars,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: like everything.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: Can I ask a dumb question out?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 9: You know?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: Are we in a safe space?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: It depends on what you're why not get mocked and
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: ridiculed for this. The Kansas City, Missouri, right and the
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: Kansas City, Kansas. Is it the same actual city but
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: it just is on the overlaps both states?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: Or is it two separate cities?
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: I always thought it was too separate, but separate cities.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: I always thought it was two separate cities. And I'm
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: I'm you know, I'm asking.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: For basically, they could just shift stadium over. So it's
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: not a dumb question, is what you're saying. I don't
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people didn't even know.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: No, I knew there was a difference between Kansas City,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas. But I always thought they
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: were two separate.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: And I thought so too.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is, but now I'm being.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: Told that it's the same. It just happens to ye
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: be cut by the state border.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: This feels like we're really stupid right now, I think
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: it is. I think it is right on the It
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: is right.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: According to the Google it says two separate bordering cities
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: and different Yeah.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: They are bordered, separate bordering cities in different states.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: So they border. Yeah, they too, at least a quarters.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: But they're separate. Well, they have to be separate because
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: of the government, right, like they can't. One is in the.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: State, but they but they are actually like if there
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: was no state, they will be one state. It be
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: one city. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I thought it
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: was two separate Yeah.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: Like different locations like miles apart.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So anyway, Denver's favored by thirteen and a half.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: Thirteen and a half, definitely say Denver to win. That's
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: just a big number on a Christmas game. And shoot,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: I'll lay it.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: I'll lay the thirteen.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I am going to as well. Kansas City proud team.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: A lot of wins that have nothing to play for,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: probably not real happy to be playing in this game.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: The fans aren't gonna be happy.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take Denver to win both ways.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the points, and the reason being
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: that in the event that there is a Christmas miracle,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: at least I can win that part of sure the selection.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm basically hedging it.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, now get any on you.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: Now we move to Saturday. So we're playing Friday, Thursday, Saturday,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: and Sunday and Monday this week.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah assume, wow.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: Get ready because that's probably what it is going to
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: do that last week too, did we did we do
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: that Thursday, Saturday, Sunday?
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 14: Oh?
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had the Saturday game Saturday at four thirty.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: It's Houston ten and five at the Chargers eleven and.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: Four, Black by two and a half.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: I think the Chargers get a lot of respect that
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: they may not deserve, but anyway.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: Go yeah, I'm going to go with Houston in this game.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: I know that's probably bad for the Patriots, but I
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: just what respect. Yeah, I'm gonna take this their favorite
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: over Houston.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: They've been better than Houston all year.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: No, they haven't. Not lately, No, I don't think so.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: I disagree.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: What's their record?
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: Eleven and four, which Houston's record, But I'm telling you late,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: don't you think Houston's played better lately.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: No, they just barely squeaked by the Raiders at home
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: last week.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 5: I think while the Chargers went to Dallas and.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: Everyone's a scare to Houston, I'm told.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: But that See, that's your problem is you're listening.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: To the not A lot of people are say I'm sorry, Mike,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: who did you take?
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the upset. I'm gonna take Houston.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: Good, Mike, I just.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Think they're better.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Houston as well. I'll in all seriousness,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: I've been very impressed with the Chargers' resilience of being
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: able to say, I know everybody thinks that we're done
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: because of all our injuries, but they just keep I mean,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: they beat the Eagles, they beat the Cowboys, they just
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: keep winning these games. And I kind of agree with
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: I don't think Houston's better. I think the Chargers have
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: a better team, but they're just beat the crap. But
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: I've been impressed with the way they've played.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: So what did the email of remind us that we're
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: really rooting for the Chargers to beat Houston?
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: Yes, because that would mean the Chargers would want to
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: play hard in the.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: Last I'm going to root for the charge. I'm picking
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: the Chargers to good. There we go, Chargers win this game.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: But I also think there's something about Harbaugh.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think their defense has played
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: really well.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: There.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: Defensive coordinator is getting some consideration, you know, as a
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 5: head coach candidate. They've been impressive. The Chargers. That's a
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: that's a pretty good team. I thought that they would crumble.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: I've been ridiculously impressed with Herbert's toughness this year, not
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: just because of the broken hands, but the way he's played.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Harbaugh might have the right messaging for
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: this time of the year, you know.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Just so weird.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: Saturday at eight, This is on Prime. Oh, by the way,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: that game was on NFL Network. This game, I think
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: is on Peacock. Hold on, I don't think I hold
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: the phone the phone. Yes, this game is on Peacock.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 5: Oh no, I think I tried to do Paramount last
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: night and it wouldn't let me on. Maybe I do
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: get Peacock. Yeah.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: Baltimore at green Bay, Yeah, Baltimore seven and eight at
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: green Bay, nine to five and more.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: Green Bay by three. And I do not know the
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 5: status Mike of a lot of the Green Bay players.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure about Jordan Love.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: Leon Arrison's out. Uh what about Lamar?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Lamar as well didn't practice.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: By the way, you said Kittle's healthy and the report
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: is that he is not healthy.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a good game the other night. I'm
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: gonna take green Bay at home. I'll lay the points.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: Green Bay.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: I will take green Bay.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: Baltimore is I'm gonna take Green Bay as well.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: If their coach doesn't want to win, then I'm gonna
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: guess they're not gonna win.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: I think he should be fired. I think that's a
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 5: fireable offense. You're you're playing for your playoff life, and
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: your best player is hurt and your second best player
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: is standing on the sideline and the coat next to you,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: and you claim that it wasn't what you wanted. I
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: think you need to go. And I think the I
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 5: think Heartall was a really good coach. I just think
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: it's time.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: Wow, I'm gonna take Green Bay as well. Hard to
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: argue with that, though. Now we move over to Sunday,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: the traditional Sunday at One games Seattle is twelve and
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: three at Carolina eight and seven on CBS. By the way,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: every time Jim Nance does a broadcast, does somebody just
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: die the week before? Like he's always like, you know,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: we've just lost one of our CBS family and it's
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: some guy that you know, nobody knows except people that
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: work at CBA. Like it happens like every time he's
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: on a broadcast, and not just football, the Masters or whatever.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: It's it's like this always somebody he's memorializing.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: It works. A lot of people are always dying. I
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: guess what do you got.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: Paul, Carolina. I'm sorry Seattle by seven seven.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna take Seattle to win, but I'm gonna
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 6: take the points for your Are they in.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: First place right now?
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: First place? Yes? Well that wind doesn't look so pathetic, now,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: does it, Paul?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: It does not My good job by v.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Or whatever the DV o p A is.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: So when Seattle wins this game, that you'll go back
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: to have faced two teams with winning records. This is
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: a tough one. They don't. Carolina does not need this game,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: I believe it or not. It all comes down to
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: the last game for them. They if they would were
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: to win, I'm gonna do the I'm going to do
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: the deuce, which is not a good thing considering his
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: track record. But I'm gonna take Seattle to win in
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: Carolina to cover and it's only two seven oh seven.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, big spread on the road. That's the way I'm
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: going to go to I'm I was tempted to pick
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: Carolina out right.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: The Rams and Niners need Seattle to lose that.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Sunday at one, Arizona three and twelve at Cincinnati
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: five and ten on Fox.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: Cincinnati by seven, Oh yeah.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: This is an easy one.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Gross. I'll take Cincinnati lay the points.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to as well. I look forward to
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: the game starting and whoever does the announcing telling me
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 5: how great Jacoby Brissett's been playing despite the fact that
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: they lose every game.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Bengals.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bengals. Joe Burrow on a mission to show he's
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: having fun, right just to you know, quiet the people.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: So although he started it, you just have to shouldn't
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: have to try it. He started it, he did, you know,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: it's not made up? Yeah, So Cincinnati both weighs. Sunday
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: at one on CBS Pittsburgh nine and six at Cleveland
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: three and twelve.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh by three, and I believe a win would clinch
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: the division.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, because Baltimore needs Cleveland to win.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: Right somehow, Pittsburgh has a chance to close it out,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: close out the division, and no DK.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: He suspended. I'll take Pittsburgh and Poe.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: I'm tempted by just them. I'm gonna lay the points.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: I'll lay them.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take Pittsburgh both ways. Although this is one
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: of those Fred Kirsh Division games on the road, you
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: never know, but Pittsburgh's got too much to play for.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: They have to they have to win this one.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with Pittsburgh as well. Sunday at one
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: on Fox, Jacksonville eleven and four at Indy eight and seven.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 5: Jacksonville by six and a half. M M yeah, I mean, Mike,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: Jacksonville owns, Indy owns.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know I was gonna see Jacksonville anyway. Nice
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 6: story of Philip Rose. I mean, they're not winning, they're
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 6: giving up a ton of points now too, So I'm
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 6: gonna take them Jacksonville.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: I'll lay the points.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Jacksonville both ways as well, and
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: I agree about Philip Rivers.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well the other night.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will go Jacksonville as well. Both ways. Sunday
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: at one on Fox, Tampa Bay seven and eight at
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: Miami six and nine.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: Uh, Tampa by five and a half.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: Check real, they getting a lot of respect Tampa is.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have not been eliminated. They're seven and eight, so.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: They need they need to win any Carolina to well.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 5: I think they just need to win. Yeah, you say
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 5: five and a half, five and a half, five and
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: a half, you I'll take. I'll take Tampa.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: I'll lay the points.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: I hear your Tampa is in a funk.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: I hear your Tampa's in a fine I know you know.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Tampa to win. But I'll take the
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: points that I attempted to take the upset but quin
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: yours man.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was tough.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: I'll take the points as well. I'll take the points
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: as well. Tampa will squeak by. You know now that
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: Drake May is in the league, Drake Drake May May,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: We're not so dependent on making the league good with
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: Baker in it.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, that's a change, you know.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: So Yeah, now, now we've got Drake May.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: So you can't say Drake Drake May May. You gotta
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: say Drake Drake May May. That's the cadence. You can't.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: I don't really understand it still, and I've had three
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: different versions of the explanation. So I'm going to stay
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: out of His nickname is Drake May. My guess is
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: it's not for me, So I'm going to stay in
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: my lane.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: It's for all of us.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 8: Paul.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sunday at one on CBS, it's New Orleans five
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: and ten at Tennessee three and twelve.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: New Orleans by two and a half. Give Kellen Moore
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: some credit.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't given up.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: They've been they've been winning games.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, probably not necessarily what they want to
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: be doing, but first year coach, trying to establish something.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Tennessee. The upset at home
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: cam Ward.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to take the Saints. But I have
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: a feeling Mike is right. This is one of those
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: games where everybody's like, oh, you know, the Saints are
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: I'm playing. This is a game quote unquote a bad
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: team is supposed to win on the road, and they
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 5: cough it up. I'm going to take the Saints because
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: I think Tennessee is that bad.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: I am too. I'm gonna take the Saints, all right.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: Now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock and
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: we moved to four oh five on CBS. The Giants.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 5: No, please, no, what is the worst match.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: To the Giants? Two and thirteen? At the right is
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: two and thirteen?
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: It is by one and a half.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: The toilet Bowl.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: No brock Bowers, No brock Bowers. Someone else got on
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: ir too.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Boil boy, Oh boy? What to do? What to do? Ah?
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna go with Geno Smith and the Raiders.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know why.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna lose this game. No matter who I pick,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Giants. Don't ask me why. I
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: have no rational explanation.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Giants as well. Now we
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: go to four to twenty five. When's the last time
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: there were only two games in the four o'clock window?
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: Because this would be the Christmas Because there's not enough games.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: They're all being played on Thursday, right h four on
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: Fox Philadelphia ten and five at Buffalo eleven and four
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: all Patriots eyes will be on.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: This case is basically a nationally televised game. The whole
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: country's going to get this game, except for New York
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: and Vegas. Right, Buffalo by one and a half.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta I gotta do it. I'm gonna take Philly.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 6: I'm a little bit concerned about Josh Allen on his foot.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: I'll take the Eagles.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Buffalo. I don't I kind of agree
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: with Fred. I don't think the Eagles look quite right
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: to me. I don't think they looked all that good
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: against Washington the other day in that Saturday game. I
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: thought they I think if the Redskins, I'm sorry, the
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: Commanders played, you know a little bit better, I think
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: they could have pulled off an upset. So I'll take
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: I'll take Buffalo at home.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I have to take Buffalo. Obviously, I'm
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: rooting for Philadelphia, and sometimes when that happens, I just
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: picked them. Anyway, I can't do it. It's just too
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: this is too easy for Buffalo. Sunday Night eight twenty
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: on NB Sure, good matchup, Chicago eleven and four at
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers eleven and four, Chicago's already wrapped
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: up their division.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 5: Is that true. I don't think that's true.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: I thought they did or maybe they just clinched the playoffs.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: They did something they either maybe they just clinched the
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: playoff birth.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: Maybe they they may have clinched.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: They're just playoff birth.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: Okay, the Niners by three. The Niners. The Niners and
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: Seahawks control their destiny. If the Niners went out, they're
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: the number one seed. If the Seahawks went out, they're
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: the number one seed. The Rams need some help.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 6: Da, I'm gonna take San Francisco. That's a that's a
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 6: good game though. Sunday night, I'll fard to checking that
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 6: one out. I'll take San Francisco a lay the points.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take San Francisco as well. I think
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: that offense is clicking, and I don't think Caleb Williams
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: is going to have the luxury of a slow start,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: which he's kind of gotten into a little bit of
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: a pattern. He's much better later, but it might be
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: too much. Yeah, I've been on Chicago most of the season.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: You were right, but I was wrong. I was not
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: a believer.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: I was off Chicago last week and I got screwed
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: by that, but I'm going to be off him again
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: this week. I think San Francisco at home beats.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: The Bears should be a good game.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I that's a good one. That's a good one.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: Now we go to Monday Night on Ish Peirn and
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: it's not eight fifteen, the Rams eleven and four at
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: the Falcons six and nine.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: Knowing the Rams by seven and a half Rams Rams, Yeah,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: same with me. Indoors, that offense I think will put
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 5: up too many points for Kirk Cousins in that pass
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: rush could make life difficult for the old man.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go with the Rams as well well.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: Although I am not a believer in the Rams defense overall.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: I think they have a good pass rush, but I
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: don't think their secondary is very good.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: Right now, we move back to one o'clock, and of
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: course it's the Patriots at twelve and three visiting New
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: Jersey to take on the Jets on Fox three and twelve.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 5: Patriots by thirteen and a half, tied for the biggest
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: spread of the week.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to Evan. I mean,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: he told me no chance, but I kind of agree
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: with him.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Patriots by a nice comfy score
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 6: of thirty four to ten.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I see a similar kind of game. I'm gonna
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 5: say thirty three to six. I don't see any offense
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 5: for their Jets, and this is just a focused game
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: special teams. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: same thing on the kickoffs. Just ki kick him in
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 5: the end zone and give him the thirty five. They're
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: not going to do anything with that, and just don't
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: give the Jets any points.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: And you should be okay.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: In this one. Listen, it's a division game the Jets.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: You just never know in this league. Patriots forty two ten.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 5: You see me right it in. You see me writ
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 5: it in.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: When he started, you know they have to give the
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: Patriots are going to have to give up that first
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: drive touchdown.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 6: Right right and after it, and then that let your
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 6: blog will be blowing up.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 5: I would have to to think about it, but I
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: would wonder a first drive touchdown in this game, would it?
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: I think it would be the most surprising one that
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: they would have allowed, counting Cleveland at home, counting the
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: one they allowed to Carolina, at home, the one they
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: allowed to Tennessee on the road. This would be I
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 5: think more surprising than even any of those. Yeah, even
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 5: the first time the Jets did it in the Thursday
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: night game. They went right down the field and scored.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: Yep. But I think Patriots handle the Jets in New Jersey.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: I'm probably going to be mostly Patriots fans in the crowd,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: if you know, like, why would it just Fireman ed?
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: He's out, He's been gone since like week three.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 5: You know, I wonder how many empty seats they'll be
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: just period, Yeah, you know. Yeah, it's a big place,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 5: a big place Christmas weekend.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, screw that terrible matchup.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: Ye all right, Well listen, it's not the end of
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: the year, but it's getting there, right It is Christmas.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: Two more shows until the end of the year, right, Yeah,
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: So I hope everyone has a good day tomorrow. Patriots
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 3: are off.
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  Speaker 5: Where off, Mike and I will be with you on Sunday, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Show pre game show. I'll be in New Jersey doing
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  Speaker 3: the blog. Everybody behave If things don't go one hundred
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  Speaker 3: percent the way you want it to go, the things.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to. So I think you've all been a
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  Speaker 5: good again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want criticism, but I want constructive criticism, not
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: we're frauds. You don't need that, all right.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, if they lose to the Jets,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 5: I might be in the fraud category.
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  Speaker 3: They had a bad way, they came out unfocused, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, they deserve criticism. But I still think they're
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  Speaker 3: I think they're a pretty good team. I mean, I
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: think we're twelve and three. All right, see you later. Hey,
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: this is Alex.
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  Speaker 5: That's a lot