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Spirit, Intuition & the Life You Were Meant to Live | Stepfanie Kramer · Always Connected

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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. As you know, mostly my show has been
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live lately with questions and answers from all of you.
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But every once in a while, I like to bring
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on a very special guest. I never know who's going
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to pop onto my radar, but when I find them,
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I know this is the one. And that's the case
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with today's guest. I'm going to introduce you to somebody
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you may already know, but perhaps not in the light
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we're sharing today. I'm going to bring her on now,
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then we'll talk about her so she's not sitting back there.
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twiddling her thumbs. Our guest is Stephanie Kramer. Stephanie, welcome
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to the show.
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Speaker 2: Hi, thank you for having me. Thank you. I'm happy
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to be here. You are welcome.
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Speaker 1: Well, everybody, I got to know Stephanie because she reached
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out about interviewing me for her podcast, The Other Side.
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And as you will feel, if you can't feel it already,
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she just has this beautiful energy about her. And we
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just clicked, which is called Coming Into Resonance. And I
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said to her at the end, well, that was a
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great interview, but I want to interview you for my show,
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because this is a woman who really gets what the
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awakened way is all about, even if she never put
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it in those terms. I know she knows we're not
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only human, and I know she knows we're all connected
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by one big web, and that love is the basis
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of all that is, and that's the awakened way. But
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let me tell you a little bit about Stephanie that
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you may say, oh my gosh, yeah, now I know
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who she is. She's perhaps most well-known for playing Sergeant D.D.
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McCall on the hit show Hunter. That started in 1984.
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I was deeply immersed in my Navy career then, Stephanie,
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so I actually don't know the show at all. That's okay.
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Speaker 2: It's on reruns everywhere.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I hear it's really popular in China. Is
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that right?
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Speaker 2: It was huge in China. It still is. They invited
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me just last year, and it was so humbling because
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they were honoring me from way back because when they
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opened up their country to receive any television whatsoever, they
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only chose two programs and one was Hunter. So it
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became this national phenomenon culturally through everybody. It was just,
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it was really amazing. Wow, that's awesome.
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Speaker 1: Well, you became a national phenomenon because you were this beautiful,
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powerful female police sergeant at a time when that wasn't
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focused upon on TV, right?
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Speaker 2: That is correct. Yeah, they didn't have, generally speaking, I
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was a character that was a woman who held her
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own alongside this man. And it wasn't, I was a
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subversive to him or what should we do? We're crying
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in the corner. You know, no. It was, it was,
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it was a wonderful opportunity.
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Speaker 1: All right. And then when I read through the list
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of other shows you were on, oh, my gosh, everybody,
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you're ready to be just catapulted back to the past.
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Listen to some of these shows that she's been on.
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Guest starred on Starsky & Hutch, Dynasty, Knotts Landing, Bosom Buddies, CSI, NCIS, 9-1-1,
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and others.
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Speaker 2: Boy, is that a flash to the past.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It is for me, too.
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Speaker 1: And then I understand you started... a second career as
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a professional singer and songwriter.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I always was. I always was. I started in
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musical theater when I was, you know, started in high school. Briefly,
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when I graduated, I wound up auditioning and getting cast
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as Maria in West Side Story, the Valley Institute of
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Musical Theater out here in L.A., which is no longer here.
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But opening night was my 18th birthday. And I was
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trained as a legit mezzo-soprano. And the board of directors
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of the academy, which is where I wound up going
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to school, the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, said, we've
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got to go to New York. And I was like,
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I think I'm going to stay in L.A. and join
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a rock and roll band and have some fun. But,
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you know, that's what I did. And I wound up
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singing four sets a night, five nights a week in
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clubs all over California. And at the same time, auditioning
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and starting to build my resume, working in television. And
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I told my agents, one of them is going to
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take off. Whichever one that is, I'm going to go with.
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Speaker 1: Awesome.
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Speaker 2: It turned out to be television. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So that's your backstory. But I want your current story
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and what led to it. Because I can tell you've
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had experiences, and we discussed a few when we were
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chatting after you interviewed me, about some spiritually transformative experiences
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you've had. And so what led you to host the
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Other Side podcast?
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Speaker 2: It's just like... Natural for me to do that. You know,
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I listen to, as many people do, on YouTube or
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read books, spiritual books, higher learning, whatever you want to
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call it, the esoteric sciences. And I've always resonated with
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that ever since I was about seven years old. So
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when I was a little child, my mom had one,
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maybe two books on Edgar Cayce.
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Speaker 1: Oh, sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I remember being seven years old and opening that
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book and reading it and going, yes, well, yes, of course. Oh,
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I love that. It was sort of like a remembrance.
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You know, not like, I don't understand, this doesn't make sense,
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or this is weird. It felt totally natural to me.
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She also had this very old book called Phantasms of
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the Living that dealt with a lot of documented cases
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of paranormal and supernatural things. And in reading that, it felt... Well, yes,
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of course.
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Speaker 1: See, at seven years old, that's amazing. And no wonder
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you felt that way because you hadn't built up this
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materialist story yet and turned your focus outward. You were
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still aware of who you are. Yes.
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Speaker 2: And I also started, honestly, getting visits from people that
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passed over when I was a child. Oh, see, we
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love these stories. You don't love them when you're seven, though.
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They kind of freak you out.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Okay, so can you remember
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any in particular and how you reacted and if you
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shared it, that kind of thing?
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Speaker 2: There's a lot, but I can tell you, for example,
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this is one that's probably common with a lot of people,
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I would think, is my father died when I was 12.
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And shortly after his death, he basically stayed in the house.
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I'm sure his soul was shocked at having to suddenly
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depart so quickly. And he left behind a young mother
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and a 12 and a 13-year-old. And I think that
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was his intention. You know, I'm not ready to go.
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What do I do with my family? I think a
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lot of souls do that before they truly then disengage,
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at least for a period of time.
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Speaker 1: May I interrupt here a second? Because I have a
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bit of a different perspective on that, that they absolutely
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hang around, and yet their soul is fully aware that
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There's nowhere to be but here in awareness, which would
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include across the veil and here.
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Speaker 2: So I actually don't feel that souls are stuck. It's
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a choice. And you can use that word, but a
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lot of people go to fear, Stephanie. I know this
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when they hear that.
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Speaker 1: And that was a choice your dad made, but his
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soul was perfectly fine in allowing him to hang out
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with all of you.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I agree with you 100%. He wasn't stuck.
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He was just bouncing back and forth across the veil.
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But when he was alive, we had one of those
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old low to the, you know, those mid-century stereo cabinets.
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Remember those big old record player things? Oh, we had one.
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: A dozen knobs. So he's always getting irritated. Turn off
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the power switch. Turn off the power. And we'd always
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forget because we were kids. So shortly after his death,
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my brother and I were in the living room doing something.
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And all of a sudden we heard click. And we thought,
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that's the power. And we looked and we watched every
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single knob all the way down from right to left
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turn off. And I went, oh, it's dad. Oh, that's
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a good one. That's not just the radio came on, right?
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You saw the movement.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it didn't scare me. I just said, oh, sorry, dad.
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We'll try to remember because I knew it was him.
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I was never frightened by it. And I heard him.
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He used to walk around and lock the doors at
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night after we'd go to sleep. And I would lay
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there and I'd hear him. He'd walk front door, he'd
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go around, he'd knock. He also would knock on the
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front door a lot. But he would go and walk
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around the house and I'd hear his footsteps on the
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wooden floor and it would come down the hallway and
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come into my bedroom and he would sit on the
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end of my bed and the bed would go poof
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where he was seated. And so I knew it was him.
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And I just thanked him for being there and that
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he was loved and he was missed and whatever else
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I said. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Did you share that with your mom?
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Speaker 2: I believe I did at the time. Yeah, I believe
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I did at the time.
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Speaker 1: I imagine she would be open to that if she
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had those books you mentioned around the house.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes. But she also, I mean, she was in
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a great deal of grief at the time and a
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lot of stress. But I always thought that was kind
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of interesting. And boy, there's so many. I mean, I
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used to go hiking up in the Santa Susana Mountains,
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which is out in the mountains. Chatsworth area, big rocky
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caves and stuff. And, um, I spent a lot of
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time on weekends, just, you know, you drop your kid
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off at 10 and you pick them up at five
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and they would just rum ramble around in these rocks.
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And I was just, that was when you could do that. Um, and, um,
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I was coming around a path that I knew very
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well toward a cave. I was going to with my
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friend who was behind me and, uh, I came around,
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you know, you're in the middle of nowhere. I came
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around and I got that kinesthetic response that the energy
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field had moved, had shifted. And I was now in
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a different energy. And I used to that as a child,
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but I didn't know. Now it was, oh, what's going
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to happen? Who's here? What's this? And I stopped waiting
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and I looked and above, beyond me in the path,
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was a woman holding the hand of a little girl.
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And she was dressed in like 1860, you know, black collared,
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big poofy sleeves, long dress. And she was holding the
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hand of this little child walking up the path. And
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there's nothing out there. And I looked at her and
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they stopped and she turned around and just.
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Speaker 1: Looked at me.
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Speaker 2: So this is full objective.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Right in front of you. Right. Not transparent. And I
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just looked at her. And I just was like, hi.
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And she went around. She walked and went around the corner.
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And I ran after her. You know, I was like,
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wait a minute.
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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to you. But she was gone.
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There was nothing there. Not in this dimension anyway. Yes,
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that's right. I've always had veils sort of open up.
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for me ever since I was a kid. So that
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has continued then. That didn't stop at age 11 or
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12 like it does for many. No, it didn't stop
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at all. Yeah, I have a lifetime of, wow, am
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I the only person that sees?
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I love that. I love that. It's been interesting.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever been used by spirit to deliver a
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message to someone else from somebody who passed? Yes.
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Speaker 2: Can you remember any worth sharing? Yeah. Uh, let's see,
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which one should I choose? Um, wow. There was a
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gentleman who's a dear friend of mine and we were
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working on a script together. We, we, we write together and, uh,
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I had not seen his brother and his brother's wife
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in quite some time. And he's like, oh, come on,
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let's go back and, you know, have lunch with them.
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It'll be fun. And, you know, went over to their
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home and on like that Saturday and we all had
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lunch together. It was really nice.
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Speaker 1: It was great.
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Speaker 2: It was like, I've known him since he was 18.
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So it was really catching up kind of thing. And
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then on Monday morning we were back writing and he said,
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so wasn't it nice to see him? I go, yeah.
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And he, he mentioned that his brother had not been
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feeling well. And I said, yeah. And I knew, and he,
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He knows me and he knows my abilities and the gifts.
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And so he's like, what'd you get? And I said,
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I'd rather not tell you. And he goes, no, I
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really want you to. I said, I really don't want
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to share the information. He said, please tell me. I said, okay.
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And this was, we saw him in March. And I said,
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he'll be dead in three years in March. And I
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think it's cancer. And it was. And he was dead
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three years later in March.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 2: And now some people don't want to hear that. But
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I said, the reason you're getting the information is now
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you have the opportunity to help him and his wife
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to prepare. That's right. Get all the state in order,
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because there was a lot about that. Get the family
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prepared energetically. That sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: That's very interesting because I tell my students, don't ever
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tell somebody you see they're going to die. And yet
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there are always exceptions. And I love how you handled that.
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You really made sure that he wanted to hear. He's
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the one that insisted with you. And the most important
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thing is you were sure. A lot of times people
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get random information and then they share it. And it
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can be very damaging.
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Speaker 2: No, my ex-husband knew. that would come up every once
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in a while and say, hey, I got a message
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about blah, blah, blah. He was bringing some fellow into
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his company and said, I want you to meet him
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and tell me what you think.
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay.
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Speaker 2: So we met briefly. It was, I don't know, a
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10-minute conversation in the lobby, you know, kind of a thing.
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And he left. And my then-husband looks at me and goes,
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what do you think? I go, don't hire him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And he goes, why?
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Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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Speaker 2: I'm all ready to give him a position. I said, uh,
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he's a drug addict and he's going to try to
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ruin your business and he's going to steal money from you.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: And he's like, well, you got all that. I said,
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just don't hire him. Of course he did hire him.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, I'll bet he did. And then.
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Speaker 2: Every single one of those things happened in approximately 18
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months later. Oh my goodness. And I'm like, I hate
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to say I told you so, but if you ask me,
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I'll tell you. If you want to know, don't ask.
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That's right.
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Speaker 1: Clearly, you're very tuned in, and we could just call
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that intuition. It's just being aware of the connection that's
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always here with us with higher consciousness. How did that
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help you in either of your two careers? Well, it
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certainly helped me in regards to being able to deal
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with certain talent that I had to deal with. You know,
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I mean, when you work on a show for seven
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years or six years or whatever it was, I don't
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know anymore. You know, there's hundreds of people that come through.
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And like you, like many people, you can feel somebody's resonance.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: You feel that energy before it even comes in the room.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: And then if it comes in and it's a wonderful energy,
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you're like, you know, you open up. This is great. Or,
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you know, you get a name. Some actor you don't
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even know, but you can tell from the name and
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you think, oh, this is going to be a difficult week.
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I can sense that. And inevitably, it wasn't me projecting
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onto it or expecting that. It was just being shown. Yeah,
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it's an energy thing. It is an energy. It's all energy.
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So you know how to deal with that in a
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certain way. Actually, it was six years on Hunter. I
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knew that I was going to leave after six years,
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even though my contract wasn't over. Because I had been
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told and knew that I was going to get married
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and have a child. And I was like, yes, that's
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the next direction for my life. And I can't do
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that at the level and the depth and quality that
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I wanted to offer my marriage and my child if
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I was working 80, 90, 100 hours a week. And
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press tours on weekends and stuff. It's like, no. It's
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time for me to make this shift. And thank you
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for telling me. Very much. Thank you. And I knew.
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When I got on a plane going to this other
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place out of state, before I even left, I went, oh,
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I'm going to meet my husband this weekend. Thank you. Oh,
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no kidding. And I did.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about that moment. Did you know this is
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the guy intuitively? Was it like a soul thing or
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did it unfold later?
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Speaker 2: It wasn't later. It was very fast. It was very fast.
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I remember looking at him and going, oh, okay. that's
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what it felt like. And then when we got to
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where we were, a group of us, he and I
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just sort of walked away from the group and hung
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out the whole time, had a wonderful time. And maybe
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two weeks later, we took a road trip. And when
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I got back from that road trip, I was like, yeah,
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I'm marrying this man. How about that? But you knew
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it in advance. I love that. Soul plan there.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 2: It was a soul plan. I mean, we're no longer married,
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but It was a soul plan. And I knew that
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my daughter wanted in.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I was going to say. It led
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to her soul's plan.
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Speaker 2: That's right. And I knew the dates. And I said, oh,
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we got to get moving on this now because she
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wants out. And practicing is fun. But that was something
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I used to be able to do pretty well. I
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haven't done it in a long time. Maybe it's because
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I don't see that many pregnant women anymore, but I
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used to be able to Occasionally I still do see
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somebody who's pregnant and I can tell them if it's
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a boy or a girl and give them the due date. Oh,
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that's really cool. Or within 24 hours.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. So how about motherhood and your spiritual path?
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Did that change things for you in any discernible way?
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Motherhood is a spiritual path.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. And it was the most profound, uh,
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And is the most profound thing I've ever done with
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my life. And it's the most fulfilling thing I've ever
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done in my life. It's being a mother. Truly.
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Speaker 1: Define profound in the spiritual. Oh, just the depth of joy.
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The depth of fulfillment for my soul. The awe of
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being able to have the gift of this little person
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and watch them grow and change and see the world
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and help to guide them from a hopefully unloving, you know,
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with kindness and love and unconditional love and just watch
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this soul blossom into a human that you can enjoy
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and love as an adult. It is it's great.
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Speaker 2: It's just great. And She's quite gifted, too, although I
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can't talk about her experience.
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Speaker 1: No, I was going to ask, is she also intuitive?
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Has she seen spirits? If you don't mind going there,
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if she doesn't mind you saying. I didn't ask her
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about that, so I can't tell about her experiences.
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Speaker 2: But, yes, she's quite gifted as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: She is. She's very involved. I will share this one
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story about her that is already known, so I'm not
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speaking out of turn, Lily. She was. 22 months old.
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And I was in her little toddler bed reading her
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whatever book I was reading. And I'm reading like a Dr.
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Seuss thing or something. And all of a sudden.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say it was Dr. Seuss.
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Speaker 2: I think you're right. It was probably Green Eggs and
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Ham or something. Which, by the way, I still have.
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And so... And I'm reading it and all of a
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sudden she says... Now, my daughter has, I think, seven
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planets in Scorpio. So she's a very intense human. And
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she gets this look. And she's sitting there and all
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of a sudden she looks at me and she says, Mommy.
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By the way, extremely verbal, very advanced communicative skills.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, 22 months.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And she says, Mommy. I'm like, yeah. She says, I
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have something very important to tell you. I said, okay. okay.
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And she takes her hands, little tiny baby hands, and
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she puts it on the book that I'm holding and
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she pushes the book down and she leans into me
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and she says, are you listening? I've never done that
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to her. And I'm like, yeah. And she takes her
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hand and she puts it right here on my chest
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and she starts tapping my heart. And she says, mommy,
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it's important that, ah, You know and love God in
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your heart and remember that he is with you always.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, I said, yeah, honey, you're right.
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And yes, I do. So, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 2: She's pretty exceptional. That's awesome. She got it.
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Speaker 1: And she chose you. Pretty cool.
22:17
Speaker 2: Yay, thank you.
22:18
Speaker 1: Yay. Wow. So she learned that lesson very early.
22:25
Speaker 2: She sure did.
22:28
Speaker 1: What spiritual lesson did it take you decades to learn?
22:32
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Well, I don't know if I've necessarily
22:35
learned it. We're all still works in progress. Yeah, I'm
22:41
still evolving and learning. You know, get out of your
22:44
own way. Stop listening to the voice in your head,
22:47
that one, that every once in a while creeps in
22:50
and goes, and you're like, You know, the ego.
22:56
Speaker 1: I would imagine that would be very challenging working in Hollywood.
23:02
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, though, I always felt like, I remember
23:07
hearing something that Sam Neill had said. He's recently passed.
23:11
I was a big fan of his. I'm paraphrasing now,
23:15
but I completely agreed with it. And that's how I lived.
23:18
I said, it's what I do. It's not who I am.
23:21
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
23:22
Speaker 2: And there's a difference. I've talked to a lot of people,
23:25
you know, actors and well-known people, and they go, well, no,
23:29
I'm an actor. That's who I am. And I'm like, no, no,
23:32
that's what you do. Who are you? Who are you?
23:38
And it couldn't differentiate. For me, it was always a
23:41
clean delineation.
23:43
Speaker 1: And who are you, Stephanie? Who were you then and
23:45
who are you now?
23:48
Speaker 2: I'm a woman who is very grateful. to be here,
23:54
who just takes, I try to take joy in everything
24:02
I do and see the beauty in everything. There's so much,
24:06
even amidst all the turmoil and everything's going on in life,
24:11
there is such profound beauty here, I think. And I
24:17
see it every day. I walk five miles a day
24:19
and I go out and I will just stop and
24:21
be transfixed by whatever, a flower, a bird. And people
24:26
are like, what are you doing? And I'm like, look.
24:30
That's great. You know, it's everywhere. The sky or the
24:33
more natural beauty is what I resonate to. I really
24:37
love nature. But I'm a soul in progress of learning.
24:43
And my intention is to through my work, through my life,
24:48
through my being and relationships, and just by being here
24:54
to raise my consciousness to the highest level of vibration
24:57
that I can, the highest level of love and light,
25:01
and that that resonance is my duty here to be
25:08
embodied and then to hopefully share it with other people
25:13
and whomever it is that is to Resonate with my
25:17
energy and that light, whoever recognizes it. You know, I
25:21
can't change everybody. You can't fix the world kind of
25:24
a thing. Start with you. Because since you, me, all
25:29
human beings, all life is interconnected. We are all one
25:33
from the one source, from the one being, from God.
25:36
I call it God. And there's no separation. There's never
25:43
been a separation. people think there is. And I think
25:49
all religions at some level, except for perhaps Native American belief,
25:54
has said, these are the rules. This is the book.
25:58
This is the ideology. Here's the dogma. It fits right
26:01
here in this box. And this is how it works.
26:04
And if you want to reach to the higher level
26:07
of spirit, you got to go talk to me, or
26:10
you got to go talk to him, or you got
26:12
to say these words and talk to her. Otherwise, it
26:14
ain't going to work. And I'm not here to judge
26:17
anyone's religion. But that's not been how I live my life.
26:23
You can have connection with spirit. You don't have to
26:27
go into somebody else and say, will you do this
26:30
for me? I mean, we all need help. And we
26:34
can all go to someone and say, can you help
26:35
me to achieve this? But, you know, for my life,
26:39
I am a spiritual being in a human body. And
26:47
my body isn't me.
27:02
Speaker 1: Did you have to unlearn any religion without naming it?
27:06
Speaker 2: I wasn't raised with any religion.
27:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:09
Speaker 2: I wasn't raised with any religion at all.
27:11
Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Did you have any favorite... Did you read much
27:15
about spiritual things or have any favorite authors?
27:18
Speaker 2: Probably changed over the years. Golly, I could pick this
27:22
up and take you up to show you my bookcase.
27:25
Speaker 1: I know what it would look like.
27:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet you do. You know, for me, it was...
27:29
It's funny.
27:31
Speaker 3: I always.
27:32
Speaker 2: And I know this is from another life. I always...
27:36
I do believe in reincarnation. Otherwise, I wouldn't have said that.
27:40
But there's... even as a little kid, whenever the television
27:47
or something in a magazine would show a cross or
27:51
a church, I would get charged. Never told anybody, but
27:58
I would get a real like, oh boy, I want
28:01
to go in there. You know, it's like, oh, I feel,
28:05
I can't wait to go in there. And my family
28:07
never went there. And so when I got old enough,
28:12
And started, like, I'd park in front of some, you know,
28:15
like a Catholic church, a big cathedral. And I'd walk
28:18
in and I'd be like, wow. And I still do that.
28:26
That's beautiful. So much in the power of prayer or
28:30
whatever word you want to call it. Power of intention, manifested, focused, energetic, vibration,
28:37
you know, whatever word you want to give it. I
28:39
don't really care. Just do it. I am guided by
28:45
my higher self, by what I call God, by my angels,
28:50
by my birth angels. I think I believe in archangels.
28:53
I believe in all of it because I've seen so
28:56
much of it. And when I read, I'm like, yes,
29:01
I feel the truth of that. So I embody that
29:05
in everything I do. And I mean, in work, I
29:09
can remember many, many times and I still do this,
29:14
before I would go on stage to sing, or step
29:19
in front of a camera for a scene, or even
29:22
just to go on to the set before I'd go
29:24
in front of all the people, I would always take
29:27
a minute and just say, or a variation of this,
29:31
may God's light and love emanate from me now, so
29:37
that whatever is captured on camera, or whatever the audience feels,
29:41
may they feel your resonance. May they feel your light
29:45
and love. May it go to whomever is open to
29:47
receive it. And may I be a conduit for you.
29:51
And then you have to change your mind because you've
29:53
got to focus on the scene. But you set the
29:55
intention for the kinesthetic response. And a higher level of response.
30:02
And you know it is so, so you can just
30:05
let it be because you know it's there. And put
30:08
it out.
30:08
Speaker 1: What I love about this conversation is that you've been
30:12
seeing spirits your whole life. You know the greater reality
30:15
is real. You're highly intuitive and empathic. You're tuned in.
30:19
And so many people feel that because they're that way,
30:23
that they're supposed to make that their career. And you're
30:26
showing how you work that into yourself. your way of being,
30:30
your life in general. And that's the point of the
30:33
awakened way. It's being consciously connected, divinely guided all the time.
30:38
And you may not think of it every moment, but
30:42
it pervades clearly your life.
30:47
Speaker 2: It does. And I think there's every day, all of
30:49
us have moments in our day where you could make
30:53
just a You know, a simple little choice, a simple
30:57
little thing, even if it's just hold the door open
31:01
for somebody. If, you know, can I help you with
31:05
that bad, ma'am? Just get out of yourself.
31:12
Speaker 1: None of us are perfect, but you are clearly going
31:14
to have a really nice life review.
31:16
Speaker 2: When you cross. Well, hey, I've had my moments too.
31:20
Speaker 1: I know, that's what I mean. We all do human things,
31:23
but there was little things like that moment when you
31:25
opened the door for somebody. You see those things in
31:28
the life view because of that butterfly effect. That person
31:31
you held the door for may be having a bad
31:34
day and you just change things for them.
31:37
Speaker 2: Oh, it happens all the time. I was in a
31:39
bookshop in Malibu and I don't remember what I was
31:45
looking for, and there was a young man that came in.
31:48
He was 22 or something. He was young. And he
31:52
was over there. And I'm looking at this book and
31:54
I look and he picked out a book and I
31:57
can't tell you right now what it was, but I
31:59
have it. And I loved it, whatever it was. That's
32:02
the other thing. Yeah, that one that he had pulled
32:06
off the shelf. And I'm sorry, I don't remember the name.
32:10
And he's looking at it. I said, oh, that is
32:13
a really good And he's like, oh, you've read it?
32:15
I go, yeah, it's really good. And he goes, yeah.
32:18
And he said something to me. It's the other thing
32:20
about these moments. I don't necessarily remember the interchange because
32:23
it's happening for my higher self. It's not my ego
32:27
saying it, you know? Love that. You know what I mean.
32:29
Speaker 3: I do know.
32:29
Speaker 2: And so I said, he said something. And I responded
32:35
and had this little conversation with him. And he just
32:37
stared at me. And he closed the book. He went, oh,
32:40
my God, you just told me exactly what I needed
32:43
to know to solve this problem in my life. I
32:46
was meant to meet you here today. And I said, yes,
32:48
you were. And buy that book.
32:52
Speaker 1: I hope you did.
32:53
Speaker 2: You did. But the point is, that's not unique. That
32:57
can happen for all of us. If you are open
33:00
to just say, hey, you know. And be open to
33:07
what it is. People tell you who they are. It's
33:10
your job to remember. And they can tell you without
33:13
words what it is they need. But you have to listen.
33:18
Speaker 1: And it's not just listening with the ears. And that
33:20
word you're using is just key for me. I've been
33:23
teaching a lot about being open. And it means widening
33:28
your perspective, widening the lens. Most of us are so
33:31
focused on our local field, who we are, and they don't.
33:35
Open a little and then you can't help but tune
33:38
into what's going on around you. And it really is
33:41
as simple as just saying open. And it happens, right?
33:45
Speaker 2: Yes. And the word let, I think is an important word.
33:50
Let it be. Like allow. Allow. Exactly. Exactly. And bring
33:58
it in. And then how can I best use this today?
34:02
Maybe it's just what I have to do later is,
34:05
mop that dang floor in there, you know, but that's okay.
34:08
At least I get to do that. I mean, I
34:12
try not to, like, complain and whine and bitch and
34:16
moan because the reality is I chose this.
34:21
Speaker 1: Here's my definition of complaining. It's so helpful. Objecting to
34:26
reality in a way that isn't helpful. Oh!
34:30
Speaker 2: Right?
34:31
Speaker 1: That's what complaining is. So you stop yourself and go,
34:34
bitching and moaning and you say, is this helpful? What's
34:38
really going on here?
34:39
Speaker 2: This is reality. I can't, but maybe I can change this.
34:42
Speaker 1: If you can change it, if you can't, why complain?
34:44
Speaker 2: Doesn't help. Yeah. Someone else said that to me, but
34:47
that's beautiful. The way you just said it is perfect.
34:50
And something about, well, why aren't you upset over that?
34:53
And I said, would it matter? Would it matter? Yeah.
34:58
Would it help?
34:59
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
34:59
Speaker 2: Beautiful.
35:01
Speaker 1: So how about anybody who's listening? Who's feeling disconnected. You're
35:05
so clearly connected. They want some of that. I could
35:08
summarize what you already said, but let's just really nail
35:11
it down. For anybody who's listening who doesn't feel that connection,
35:14
what would you tell them?
35:17
Speaker 2: Don't give up on trying to open up to that.
35:20
Don't think that it's not going to be there for
35:23
you because you're in a state right now where you
35:27
feel like you can't receive it. This is a transitory moment.
35:30
Your life isn't going to be horrible and terrible forever
35:33
just because it's horrible and terrible right now. This is
35:37
a blip on the screen. This is a terrible moment.
35:42
This is a difficult moment. That's part of the journey.
35:45
Move through it.
35:46
Speaker 3: Grow.
35:46
Speaker 2: Expand.
35:47
Speaker 1: Heal.
35:47
Speaker 2: Whatever you need to do, but don't define the rest
35:49
of your life. You know, you can have something horrible
35:51
happen to you and say, that was a defining moment,
35:55
but it doesn't define me. Mm-hmm. And there's a big difference.
36:00
So if you're in a place where you're not feeling connected,
36:04
perhaps move your body out of where you're at. You know,
36:09
the body, mind, and spirit connection. For me, go out
36:13
to nature. Change the energy around you. If you're unable
36:18
to do that, then put on some meditative music.
36:22
Speaker 1: I was just going to say, I know that we
36:25
need to talk about music here because my gods are
36:26
saying music, music.
36:28
Speaker 2: You know all about music. Yeah. I mean, the resonant
36:32
tones for music, they heal your chakras, your body, your
36:35
cells vibrate to them. I mean, the sophageal frequencies. Do
36:42
you listen to that?
36:43
Speaker 3: Not often, but I don't know a whole lot about them,
36:46
but why don't you Well, I'm not an expert in it,
36:49
and I can't remember what century they were created by
36:52
some monks somewhere, because I don't have my little book
36:57
here with my notes, but there was an anthropologist that
37:01
discovered these manuscripts that were old sheet music, and.
37:05
Speaker 2: They were able to test and determine that the sulfasio frequencies,
37:13
they activated all these different hertz patterns that Actually activate
37:19
your organs. There's how many hertz is, I don't have
37:24
my chart in front of me. The heart has a
37:26
certain one. Yeah, the heart has a certain resonance, the brain,
37:28
the spine, the body, the soul, whatever. They are so
37:35
exceptionally healing because tone is energy.
37:42
Speaker 1: Music is energy. And we come into resonance with it.
37:45
Your whole field entrains for it. And it completely changes.
37:49
It's like, I can't listen to a lot of certain
37:52
types of music because it is so harsh and it's
37:57
so dark and it's based in fear and it's combative.
38:02
And I'm like, I gotta go, you know, but I
38:06
can put on other music and absolute transport myself. So
38:10
if somebody is out there and they need to shift
38:12
that energy and you can't get outside and you can't
38:14
be by nature and You know, if you can take
38:17
a couple, just two-minute song, something that lifts your spirit.
38:21
Put on your earphones and just, okay, okay.
38:25
Speaker 2: And breathe. Inspirito Santos. Breathe the sacred breath. That changes
38:34
the whole cellular structure. You know that.
38:37
Speaker 3: Yes.
38:37
Speaker 2: It changes everything.
38:40
Speaker 1: But my guides just told me that you were a songwriter.
38:42
We talked about that, right? But they told me you
38:45
have channeled some of your music.
38:49
Speaker 2: Yes, I have.
38:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.
38:51
Speaker 1: Why don't you talk about that process?
38:56
Speaker 2: Ah, they just said, hey, how about this? I mean,
39:01
it's not, well, for example, there was one time I
39:05
had this friend who was coming over to pick up
39:09
this song that I needed to complete to take it
39:12
to the producer. And I was leaving to do a
39:16
movie the next day. I was leaving the country. And
39:19
I was stuck on this bridge. And he was coming
39:23
in an hour. Musical bridge. Musical bridge. Pardon me. Excuse me. Yes,
39:28
not a building bridge. Musical bridge. And I kept going,
39:32
what is happening here? And, and I'm feeling a little
39:36
angst because he's knocking on the door in the hour
39:38
and I got to, you know, and so I said, okay,
39:41
calm down. And I just meditate. And I said, would
39:44
you please give me this bridge? And here's the song
39:49
and here's what it needs to say. Here's the connective
39:51
link from the verse till we augment. And could you
39:56
do that for 15 minutes?
39:58
Speaker 1: Maybe.
39:59
Speaker 2: All of a sudden it went. And I wrote it
40:02
all down and it was perfect. And I wound up
40:05
recording it and it worked great. There was another time
40:08
I was. One of my favorite songs that I wrote
40:13
was called Ella. There was a time and. I think
40:16
I wrote that song in 15 minutes.
40:20
Speaker 1: And it came through you.
40:21
Speaker 2: It came through. That's exactly right. And that's what, that's
40:26
what art does.
40:28
Speaker 1: Yes.
40:29
Speaker 2: It often comes from, it comes from your heart.
40:33
Speaker 1: It's God expressing itself through you. That's why we're here.
40:37
We are the music of God.
40:39
Speaker 2: Yes, we are.
40:41
Speaker 1: That's lovely.
40:42
Speaker 2: I love that. And There was times when, like I said,
40:46
this one song, I was, gosh, I was being driven
40:50
to some talk show. And I'm in the back seat
40:56
hearing this song. So I'm like writing really fast. And
41:00
when I got there, it was a lot of traffic
41:02
as it is in LA. So I was a little
41:03
bit late. And I ran in and they're like, oh, great.
41:06
We're ready to go. I go, just give me one minute.
41:08
And I ran over into this other room and wrote
41:11
down the chorus. And dead. I said, now we can go.
41:14
I had to finish a song. And it was that fast. Yes.
41:19
Because it was already written at a different level. That's right.
41:22
It was just waiting to come through. You know, I
41:26
think music as it is out there in the spheres,
41:29
there was a, I'm a massive Van Morrison song. His
41:32
music just go for me. And there's one CD in
41:36
particular at the time in the 80s called Inarticulate Speech
41:41
of the Heart. And it's just a fap.
41:45
Speaker 1: Okay, got to write that one down.
41:47
Speaker 2: I always suggest listening to that. And he writes with
41:52
such a spiritual fervor in that body of work. But
41:57
there was this instrumental piece on that. And I can't
42:02
remember the name of the song, but it was just
42:04
one little piece of music that was in the background. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
42:12
It was a little, that was it. But it was
42:14
a big song. And I kept hearing that over and
42:17
over again. And I gave lyrics to that for myself
42:22
in my mind. And that was just it. I didn't
42:25
do anything with it. It's just because it was my song.
42:27
I just heard that little thing. Maybe two years, year later,
42:35
what was the next one? It might have been a
42:37
Poetic Champions Compose.
42:40
Speaker 1: He.
42:41
Speaker 2: had that same piece of music as happens with artists.
42:44
Sometimes you use little bits in additional, and it was
42:48
the exact lyrics. As I felt this story coming out,
42:53
I thought, no way. Oh, yeah. It was, love will
42:58
always last forever. This love will always last always. Oh,
43:03
my gosh. And when I heard it, I went, say what?
43:06
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I got that first.
43:12
But that's what it is. It just, it floats around
43:14
out there. And sometimes it comes down and taps you
43:17
on the shoulder and sometimes you reach up and go,
43:19
thank you.
43:20
Speaker 1: Yes. And it's why you'll have two inventors coming up
43:22
with the same thing at the same time in different
43:24
parts of the world, even though it wasn't published. So
43:28
where have your songs been played when you said, you know,
43:31
you had to get this to a producer for this
43:32
or that?
43:33
Speaker 2: Oh, well, I've got a couple of CDs out and
43:35
you can buy them on, uh, you know, Amazon, Apple music, uh, Spotify.
43:41
I don't know where we're able to buy CD baby.
43:44
You know, you can buy them. Uh, and I haven't
43:48
been performing musically lately, but I got a message from
43:52
spirit and it was a reminder to, you know, bring
43:58
your voice back. Oh, nice. Okay. And I, I am a,
44:03
freak for Christmas music. I mean, I'll play Christmas music
44:08
in July.
44:09
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
44:10
Speaker 2: And people are like, I'm sorry, what's wrong with you?
44:12
I'm like, nothing. I just love it. Listen to this song.
44:15
Speaker 1: Boy, if people can't feel your joy, something's, something is
44:19
a little stuck. So just breathe, everybody open up and
44:22
soak this up because it's part of the reason I
44:24
wanted to have you on the show, Stephanie. You just,
44:26
you radiate joy. You radiate an understanding at the deepest
44:29
level of who we all are and how connected we are.
44:32
And just being in the presence of that kind of
44:35
energy is transformative. People will pick it up. So I'm
44:39
sure that you're just uplifting people just by being here,
44:42
I think.
44:42
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Well, having brought up the Christmas thing,
44:45
I think there's got to be a Christmas album in
44:47
my future. Yes, that's what I saw. That's where you're
44:50
heading with that. No doubt. We love those. We need
44:53
some new ones.
44:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. So just a couple more questions. If you could
44:58
sit with your younger self, Any advice you'd tell her?
45:05
Maybe the woman who was just beginning to star in
45:07
the show Hunter.
45:10
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I would go back to much younger
45:12
than that. Yeah. Don't listen to the negative programming.
45:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
45:22
Speaker 2: Don't listen to negative programming. Don't worry about what other
45:29
people think about you. Because it ultimately doesn't matter. It
45:34
really doesn't. You run around going, you know, especially young people,
45:40
regardless of their business, but narcissisms are very heavily layered
45:46
in the entertainment business. And, you know, I've worked with
45:51
a lot of them and you just kind of go, whoa, well,
45:54
you know, I'm going to go sit over here, you know.
45:57
Speaker 1: Good idea.
45:59
Speaker 2: But the people that, Keep listening to the negative programming
46:03
they got as a child into their adulthood. And it
46:09
stops them from growing and expanding in their heart and
46:11
their mind and their body and their soul to a
46:14
higher level because they're crunched back. Make yourself smaller. Make
46:19
yourself diminished. Be nice. You know, all that crap.
46:24
Speaker 1: You know what just popped up in my mind as
46:25
you said that?
46:27
Speaker 2: Do listen.
46:28
Speaker 1: But from a higher perspective. Yes. And then question it.
46:33
Speaker 2: Discern it. Yeah. Discern it.
46:36
Speaker 1: And say, why am I believing this? Is this helping me?
46:39
Speaker 2: Or why do I think that? Where did this come from?
46:42
I know that's what you were saying, but I just
46:44
turned it on. It took me a while to get there.
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Speaker 1: Sorry.
46:46
Speaker 2: But, you know, but it's people, when I was younger,
46:49
I wish I'd had more of that. But that's okay.
46:54
It all served a purpose to get me where I
46:56
am now. But if you're starting out and you're sitting
46:58
there and you're wondering how to, you know, just, gosh,
47:04
like I said, just don't listen to the negative voices.
47:07
Have discernment. Listen to the ones that are empowering you
47:11
to be the best that you can be on every level.
47:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Good for all of us at any age.
47:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
47:17
Speaker 2: Well, true, right? It's so true. And it's like opinions,
47:22
people that put a lot of stock in people's opinions.
47:25
Or in my business, people were saying, for example, they'd
47:28
come in and say, oh, do you see the numbers
47:30
on the show this week? God, it's the highest rate
47:33
of show. Isn't it great? I said, oh, yeah. Don't
47:36
you read the numbers every week? I go, no, no,
47:39
I don't. That's great. What do you mean you don't?
47:42
How could you not? I said, I have no control
47:45
over that. I'm here to do the best I can
47:48
do and put it out there. And not be attached
47:53
to the outcome, but enjoy the journey. Right?
47:59
Speaker 1: That's how we live on my team, for sure.
48:01
Speaker 2: If people watch it, great. If they don't, they don't.
48:04
My life goes on. Oh, it's so freeing, Stephanie.
48:09
Speaker 1: Well, it is.
48:10
Speaker 2: You free yourself from other people's attachments. And it's just
48:17
such a waste. You know, it's just such a waste
48:20
of energy, I think. to get caught up in that
48:24
spiral and and all of that stuff and i'm like
48:27
i don't i i was i i can remember being
48:31
interviewed and people would say how come we don't see
48:33
you out at all the parties and going here and
48:36
you're in that and i said well first of all
48:38
i'm too freaking tired okay because the workload was enormous
48:43
but also i just that's very boring to me you
48:47
didn't need it for the ego I didn't. And I
48:50
found it sucking your energy and I'd be bored. It
48:53
was like, I don't want to stand around and hear
48:56
you talk about acting. I was like, check, please. You know,
48:59
I just, it just didn't resonate with me. I know
49:01
what I do, but I didn't need to be a
49:03
part of the external infrastructure at that level. I needed
49:09
time for me.
49:10
Speaker 1: As you're speaking, I can't help but think you, you
49:12
talked about your daughter, Lily, and you said she's an
49:15
old soul and very advanced.
49:17
Speaker 2: I know that.
49:20
Speaker 1: Your mother could have said the same thing about you
49:23
because you clearly came here for a mission that you've
49:27
been aware of without possibly naming it as a mission,
49:31
but you're definitely fulfilling it. Yeah.
49:34
Speaker 2: Hopefully. Hopefully.
49:36
Speaker 1: I'm doing my best today. Wow.
49:41
Speaker 2: I'll keep on keeping on.
49:43
Speaker 1: I've just been brought in as a trustee for the
49:48
organization Humanities Team, and I want to talk about them
49:51
more as I go forward in the future because their
49:53
mission is the same as mine, to make conscious living pervasive.
49:57
Speaker 2: By 2040, that's a big goal.
49:59
Speaker 1: But I believe that when more people become conscious of
50:03
who we are and how connected we are, We will
50:06
have more people like you who do see the positive,
50:09
who don't listen to the negative, who aren't so concerned
50:12
about their ego, who are a positive force for change
50:15
in our world.
50:17
Speaker 2: So thank you for modeling that. Oh, well, thank you
50:22
for doing what it is you're doing because that's why
50:25
we're here. I always said to my daughter, whatever you
50:28
decide to do when you grow up, Whatever you decide
50:32
to do, as long as you're fulfilled and happy and
50:35
it's a passionate connection for you. But above all, you know,
50:42
make a positive difference in the world. No matter what
50:46
it is you do. And one little thing I used
50:48
to do when she was little is when she'd go
50:51
to sleep at night and I would always write a
50:55
little word on her forehead with my finger. I'd say,
50:58
close your eyes. What did I write? And she'd say, joy.
51:02
I'd say, yes. And that's your birthright. Or what did
51:07
I write? Love. Yes.
51:11
Speaker 1: Wow.
51:12
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, just when you can be
51:17
a mother to a child that's open to receive that
51:19
information also, but even if they're not, help guide them to.
51:22
I mean, it's the simpler things to help shift the mind.
51:28
Speaker 1: This is the butterfly effect again here, Stephanie, because people say,
51:31
you know, we need to change the world. But it
51:33
really does happen one soul at a time, one interaction
51:37
at a time. And then that radiates outward. This will
51:40
be the way humanity is, perhaps much farther in the
51:43
future than we would like. But this is how it's
51:46
going to happen.
51:47
Speaker 2: And, you know, something you said that's interesting. very prominent
51:51
throughout my life today still when you were asking about
51:54
how this has worked in my world when acting especially
51:57
on that series unbeknownst to me because of the type
52:04
of role I played I was and I still am
52:09
constantly stopped all over the world and in like a
52:15
supermarket in an airport a woman will come up to
52:18
me in a restaurant and When I go and do
52:21
Comic-Cons and meet fans, and they'll hand me these letters,
52:24
pages of letters, and they'll say, you changed my life.
52:30
And they say, because of you, I learned how to
52:34
have the strength to leave my abusive husband. Because of you,
52:38
I became an attorney. Because of you, I went into
52:41
law enforcement. I wanted to make a difference. I learned
52:44
how to stand on my own two feet and be
52:47
my own empowered female strategist. And I mean, I didn't
52:52
intentionally have that in my head, but I'm grateful, forever
52:57
grateful that that role, which just put me in a
53:01
position to be able to, like we said, use our
53:06
position of what we're doing to go out and make
53:08
a positive difference in the world. And in this case,
53:11
it really made the difference in the lives of a
53:13
lot of women. And for that, I'm most grateful.
53:17
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, I know I speak for everybody that just
53:21
listened to this episode, that we're grateful you came on
53:24
and shared that positivity with us. It's not Pollyanna Kumbaya.
53:28
It is what will change the world.
53:33
Speaker 2: Just try it, everybody.
53:35
Speaker 1: Just try it.
53:35
Speaker 2: I think so much of you. I think you're so wonderful.
53:37
So I'm so happy I got to come and join
53:40
you today.
53:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. So everybody, you now have some homework, right? Go
53:44
out and change somebody every day and And what word
53:49
would you write on your forehead as you go to sleep? Yes.
53:53
Speaker 2: Yes. And sometimes if there's nobody there to hug you
53:57
when you're feeling bad, don't forget sometimes you just have
54:00
to hold your own hand. And that's okay, too.
54:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
54:05
Speaker 1: All right.
54:06
Speaker 2: Thank you, Stephanie. Thank you.
54:08
Speaker 1: It was a delight.
54:09
Speaker 2: Thank you, everybody.
54:10
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did,
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and we'll see you back here next week.