Latest / The Breakfast Club / Matthew Knowles Reveals NEW Destiny's Child Music, Unreleased Videos & Future Plans
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- 0:02Speaker 1: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
- 0:04Speaker 1: and everybody.
- 0:06Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Lauren came in hot so Hello miss and Oles, thank
- 0:10Speaker 1: you for joining me.
- 0:11Speaker 3: How are you?
- 0:12Speaker 1: I know today is quite a busy music conversation day
- 0:16Speaker 1: for you, as most days probably are.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Huh yeah, this is a good day. I'm here in Houston,
- 0:21Speaker 2: Texas today and getting prepared for tomorrow's that City's Child
- 0:26Speaker 2: Iconic We Imagine tribute.
- 0:28Speaker 1: So let's talk a bit about So okay, wait before
- 0:32Speaker 1: we get into Houston today. I know you're coming to
- 0:35Speaker 1: New York City, Detroit, Chicago, there's a lot of places
- 0:38Speaker 1: that you're bringing the Destney Shout Reimagine tribute. But one
- 0:42Speaker 1: of the things that you know is happening right now,
- 0:45Speaker 1: real time, is we just found out that in the
- 0:48Speaker 1: next thirty days we'll be getting some new Destney's Child music,
- 0:51Speaker 1: I mean new to us, oh to.
- 0:53Speaker 3: You guys, we've never heard it before.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Remixes, correct, correct, There will be urban remixes and dance
- 1:01Speaker 2: remixes that's been on a vault for a long time
- 1:04Speaker 2: that the ladies have approved. And you know, there's a
- 1:08Speaker 2: whole strategy now for Destiny Shall. We have obviously the tribute,
- 1:13Speaker 2: but we have the music coming. We have also years
- 1:18Speaker 2: of video footage that's never been seen before. We have
- 1:22Speaker 2: a new website, destinyshild dot com. We have new merchandise coming.
- 1:29Speaker 2: The authentic merchandise is there's so many people bootlegging destiny
- 1:35Speaker 2: Shall merchandise and has been for years, and we're going
- 1:38Speaker 2: to crack down on that.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I never realized until I heard you say it, that
- 1:42Speaker 1: there wasn't ever real merchandise because there's been so many
- 1:45Speaker 1: different things that have been out there. Why did you
- 1:47Speaker 1: guys never do merchandise for Destiney Shaw? Because you guys capitalized,
- 1:52Speaker 1: like your business wise that has always been across the board,
- 1:56Speaker 1: something to watch when it came to Destiny Shad and
- 1:58Speaker 1: all the work that you did, Why not merchant?
- 2:00Speaker 3: I feel like that's like second nature normally for a
- 2:02Speaker 3: music artists.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Yeah, well we did it, you know, And I think
- 2:08Speaker 2: I stopped doing merchandise around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen as
- 2:15Speaker 2: I just got onto more projects and just got busy
- 2:19Speaker 2: and we just moved on to other things. As simple
- 2:23Speaker 2: as that got you.
- 2:24Speaker 1: So when you say that there's no official merchandise. There
- 2:27Speaker 1: was never any official merchandise. You just mean, like, what
- 2:30Speaker 1: does that mean then if there was somebody.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I guess, I mean since twenty twelve, there hasn't been
- 2:36Speaker 2: official merchandise. I mean I even saw the other day.
- 2:40Speaker 2: You can go to Amazon, it's like five or six
- 2:42Speaker 2: companies selling Destiny Shall merchandise. You can go to even
- 2:50Speaker 2: number of stool, Walmart, even dot com is selling. Yeah,
- 2:53Speaker 2: but that's all unofficial merchandise. That's not official merchandise. Those
- 2:59Speaker 2: companies don't don't have the right, the legal right to
- 3:02Speaker 2: put out any Destiny merchandise.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Well, and I know you handle I mean still manager
- 3:06Speaker 1: of Destiny Shaw number one, but I also know you
- 3:09Speaker 1: handle all of the licensing and stuff like that as
- 3:11Speaker 1: well too, right because you are on the brand.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Like do you.
- 3:15Speaker 2: On the trademarks?
- 3:17Speaker 1: Do you then have conversations like once you drop your merchandise,
- 3:20Speaker 1: are you also planning to have conversations with these other
- 3:22Speaker 1: places to let them know? Like legally, like that can't happen,
- 3:25Speaker 1: Like will there be a stop stop put to those
- 3:27Speaker 1: other places?
- 3:28Speaker 2: Cease and desists? My attorneys will deal with that.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Got you okay?
- 3:32Speaker 1: Look heard you miss the nose okay, So so another
- 3:36Speaker 1: question on the music, and then I know we want
- 3:38Speaker 1: to get into the tribute as well. How new is
- 3:41Speaker 1: this Like when we spoke, you mentioned that you guys
- 3:44Speaker 1: just started working on this project with the remixes as
- 3:47Speaker 1: of what when.
- 3:50Speaker 2: That last week? As of last week? It's that new.
- 3:54Speaker 2: It's just an idea that that hit me that, look,
- 3:58Speaker 2: we're doing all of these things and to connect the dots,
- 4:01Speaker 2: and and I just moved. I have these storage facilities
- 4:06Speaker 2: all over the country. I just consolidated the storage facilities,
- 4:11Speaker 2: and I said, look, we should now put out these
- 4:14Speaker 2: remixes that we've had. We've had and we have new
- 4:19Speaker 2: music that never been heard before on Kelly and Beyonce,
- 4:25Speaker 2: on Michelle. Now that's different because they would have to
- 4:28Speaker 2: approve that. But the.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Solo like you have Destiny's Child stuff that you're going
- 4:34Speaker 1: to release, but you have solo stuff from the girls
- 4:36Speaker 1: too that is separate that you're saying they would have
- 4:38Speaker 1: to approve.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Correct. Wow.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Wow.
- 4:43Speaker 1: And then so the Destney's Child remixes, then I'm assuming
- 4:46Speaker 1: they have approved.
- 4:47Speaker 3: They're working with you on how it rolls out and
- 4:49Speaker 3: all the things.
- 4:50Speaker 2: They're not working with me on how it rolls out,
- 4:52Speaker 2: but they've improved them.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Got you.
- 4:54Speaker 2: There's been approved, approved years ago.
- 4:57Speaker 1: So then how do you and and are the projects then?
- 4:59Speaker 1: Like are you doing all the yourself too?
- 5:01Speaker 2: I've always always every Destiny's Child and Beyonce's first albums,
- 5:07Speaker 2: Solanga's first two albums, Michelle's four albums, and Kelly's first
- 5:15Speaker 2: two albums, A A N R.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people.
- 5:20Speaker 1: I think people forget just musically, just the work that
- 5:25Speaker 1: you put in kind of behind the scenes, not even
- 5:27Speaker 1: just on the executive and business side of it, but
- 5:29Speaker 1: from the actual creative side as well too, which is
- 5:32Speaker 1: why you know, we do we see things be so great.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Well, at some point look at the credits on the
- 5:40Speaker 2: writers of the song Survivor. You'll see b Knows, Emma
- 5:47Speaker 2: knows a Dent those other three writers, and I can
- 5:52Speaker 2: list many other songs that you'll see Emma Knows on
- 5:55Speaker 2: as a writer.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about the Reimagine tribute that you have,
- 6:00Speaker 1: and I know that this is we're also celebrating thirty
- 6:02Speaker 1: there's another anniversary like parallel right now.
- 6:05Speaker 2: The Survivor, the other Survivor song Survivor.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so the Reimagined Tour I know you're in
- 6:12Speaker 1: Houston right now.
- 6:13Speaker 2: It's a tribute. I use that word. I use that
- 6:16Speaker 2: word tour the first time, and I got the fans
- 6:19Speaker 2: with nuts.
- 6:21Speaker 1: You know, everybody's waiting on the things like are we
- 6:23Speaker 1: going to get a tour or not?
- 6:26Speaker 2: Well, I always say this, We know that it wouldn't
- 6:30Speaker 2: be surprising if Beyonce comes out with a new album.
- 6:34Speaker 2: We all know that, and hopefully.
- 6:37Speaker 3: She was working on new music.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what I was saying. Yeah, it's really
- 6:42Speaker 2: no surprise. But the life cycle of that would be
- 6:47Speaker 2: what a tour that she would do. First she put
- 6:50Speaker 2: out the album, then around eighteen months, year and a half,
- 6:54Speaker 2: you then start working on the tour, and you know,
- 6:59Speaker 2: maybe three years from now or two and a half
- 7:01Speaker 2: years from now, there will be a tour that'll go
- 7:04Speaker 2: on for two years. Michelle Williams just got off of
- 7:08Speaker 2: Broadway after twelve years and will be I'm sure announced
- 7:15Speaker 2: soon on another project that she'll be doing on Broadway. Kelly,
- 7:19Speaker 2: you know, is working on music and also working on
- 7:23Speaker 2: film and TV, so that becomes very difficult. We know
- 7:28Speaker 2: there's no way in the next five years there's going
- 7:31Speaker 2: to be a Destiny Chyle album because they're all working
- 7:34Speaker 2: on projects and you know, who knows what might happen then,
- 7:40Speaker 2: But that's their decision to me. But most people don't
- 7:44Speaker 2: understand the music industry and how the times and how
- 7:49Speaker 2: the time lines are with putting out albums or being
- 7:53Speaker 2: on Broadway. You don't just get off of Broadway because
- 7:57Speaker 2: you want to do a Destiny choll And you don't
- 8:00Speaker 2: just get off of the Beyonce tour because you want
- 8:02Speaker 2: to do a Destiny shout. So you know, these things
- 8:05Speaker 2: have to be timed out correctly.
- 8:08Speaker 1: I got you, and then so your tribute that you
- 8:10Speaker 1: have the Destiny shot. Reimagine tribute duration. I mean you
- 8:15Speaker 1: mentioned to me about like three years, so there will
- 8:17Speaker 1: be different iterations of this tribute.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Talk to us a bit about.
- 8:20Speaker 2: That it's it's again, it's like a tour. We're calling
- 8:25Speaker 2: it a tribute so that people don't get it confused
- 8:27Speaker 2: that it's Destiny Soul of the members. But you always
- 8:31Speaker 2: start in a routing we say tour routing. You always
- 8:35Speaker 2: started in the eighth market cities, the largest cities, and
- 8:40Speaker 2: then you go to the b market's like a Charlotte,
- 8:42Speaker 2: North Carolina, or a Cleveland Ohio. Uh. And then you
- 8:47Speaker 2: go to the c markets like a Columbus, Ohio or Birmingham, Alabama,
- 8:55Speaker 2: and so you schedule those things and it's it's always
- 8:58Speaker 2: pretty much this. They have been mapped out for years
- 9:02Speaker 2: with cities that we go to. So we'll do Destiny's
- 9:05Speaker 2: Child and then fourth first quarter of next year will
- 9:09Speaker 2: begin on the Beyonce tribute of her first three albums,
- 9:13Speaker 2: the one that she did with me, uh and that
- 9:16Speaker 2: I also executive produced. And then next fourth quarter next
- 9:22Speaker 2: year we hope to announce Earth, Winn and Fire, who
- 9:27Speaker 2: I had the opportunity when I was a president of
- 9:30Speaker 2: Music Well Sanctuary to have done Bruce Bruce Uh, to
- 9:34Speaker 2: have done the last album that I just had a
- 9:38Speaker 2: mental blank, what's his name that Maurice, that Maurice did
- 9:44Speaker 2: before he died. Uh, So that's a very special album.
- 9:48Speaker 3: The rest of the members we just had one.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very special album. So we'll do Destiny
- 9:58Speaker 2: Earth Winter Fire tribute so you know, and then we'll
- 10:01Speaker 2: do those. Starting to do Destiny Show internationally, you know,
- 10:06Speaker 2: Destiny Joab Believe it or not, all the records that
- 10:08Speaker 2: Destiny Choad are sold in America. They've sold more records
- 10:11Speaker 2: outside of America, so we would, well, let's think about it,
- 10:16Speaker 2: there's only three hundred and twenty million people in America.
- 10:20Speaker 2: There's seven point five billion more people outside of America.
- 10:25Speaker 2: So we understood that, and so Distribute will be big
- 10:30Speaker 2: in the Europe, It'll be big in Australia, and be
- 10:34Speaker 2: big in Japan and Brazil. So we'll you know, it's
- 10:41Speaker 2: it's a world thing, not just America.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Got you?
- 10:45Speaker 1: And will you intertwine some of the new things that
- 10:48Speaker 1: we're going to get to see or hear, so like
- 10:50Speaker 1: the music or some of the video stuff into the
- 10:53Speaker 1: tribute as well to like for people who are like,
- 10:55Speaker 1: you know, wanting to come and see things, like will
- 10:56Speaker 1: they get to see you have like an experience of
- 10:59Speaker 1: some of the new things once it's out within the.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Tribute that's happening now, I can only say that two
- 11:08Speaker 2: of the songs in the show are not Destiny shall.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Okay? All right?
- 11:17Speaker 1: And then what about the videos that you're talking about
- 11:20Speaker 1: that we haven't seen before that will be eventually seeing
- 11:23Speaker 1: out that are within this wall of things.
- 11:26Speaker 2: We have we have This will blow your mind. We
- 11:31Speaker 2: have about five at least five thousand hours it took
- 11:39Speaker 2: us six years to transfer this to digital. We have
- 11:46Speaker 2: over five thousand hours of video that you guys have
- 11:50Speaker 2: never seen, behind the stage footage, day to day stuff.
- 11:54Speaker 3: When does it date back to?
- 11:57Speaker 2: It dates back to nineteen eighty six.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Wow.
- 12:04Speaker 2: So that's like you weren't even born. I know.
- 12:08Speaker 1: I'm like, that's like all of the career right there,
- 12:10Speaker 1: like wow, yeah, okay.
- 12:14Speaker 2: And it's not just some Destiny shall or Beyonce. We
- 12:17Speaker 2: have Salon stuff. We have you know, life Jinning stuff, Mario,
- 12:23Speaker 2: you know all of our artists. We have some Earth
- 12:24Speaker 2: Wind and Fire, we have some old Jay's behind the scenes,
- 12:27Speaker 2: all the artists that we've either managed or we were
- 12:30Speaker 2: the record label. We have a large catalogue. I was
- 12:35Speaker 2: way ahead of the curve and everything we did that
- 12:39Speaker 2: we had a video camera rolling.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Was there any moment as you were like, I mean
- 12:47Speaker 1: it took you some years, so you've probably been reminiscent
- 12:49Speaker 1: for some time, but were there any moments where you
- 12:51Speaker 1: were like, man, wow, like look at this and look
- 12:54Speaker 1: at where everything where all of the business and all
- 12:57Speaker 1: the acts and all the talent ended up really got.
- 13:00Speaker 2: I've been many, been many, many many moments of that
- 13:06Speaker 2: of just looking back and looking back with gratitude, also
- 13:11Speaker 2: with a lot of gratitude that it could have been
- 13:15Speaker 2: someone else, but it was me, and it was my
- 13:17Speaker 2: kids and artists that I had the opportunity to work with.
- 13:21Speaker 2: You know, most people don't even know that I worked
- 13:23Speaker 2: with Nas. I was this manager on his biggest record
- 13:27Speaker 2: he ever did. So there's a lot people don't know
- 13:30Speaker 2: I did the last Day Lost Soul record on my
- 13:33Speaker 2: record label, a Shaka Khan and a London Symphony, or
- 13:36Speaker 2: the last two Ojay's records on my label, or the
- 13:40Speaker 2: big hit that Ray J did One Wish on my label,
- 13:45Speaker 2: or that I bought these young black men, five of
- 13:49Speaker 2: them their management companies and they all reported to me,
- 13:53Speaker 2: And they had artists like Mary J. Blige, artists like
- 13:58Speaker 2: Mary Mary, artists like Oh Gosh, Kelly did the Dilemma
- 14:05Speaker 2: with helped me out there, Dilemma Nellie, Nellie's management company,
- 14:13Speaker 2: I purchased Wow.
- 14:15Speaker 3: Okay.
- 14:16Speaker 2: So that's a lot about what we've done at Music
- 14:19Speaker 2: World and over the thirty years that you just guys
- 14:23Speaker 2: just know a bit of the Beyonce salons, Kelly, Michelle
- 14:28Speaker 2: Destiny Shall that that probably equals maybe what you know
- 14:34Speaker 2: probably maybe so.
- 14:38Speaker 1: I mean, I know that you're talking about releasing some
- 14:40Speaker 1: of this stuff in whichever way you're thinking, but it
- 14:42Speaker 1: sounds to me like you might have enough for like
- 14:45Speaker 1: like a documentary deal some Sorry, I know you guys
- 14:47Speaker 1: are Beyonce has done things.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Was it AMC or was it Netflix?
- 14:53Speaker 2: She's done it with both. Yeah, yeah, you.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Might have another run of that. That's a lot of like.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Not y'all, I will you, yeah you.
- 15:04Speaker 1: But when I said y'all, I just meant all the
- 15:06Speaker 1: stories that you just mentioned, like that's yeah. And I
- 15:10Speaker 1: think right now people are really appreciating trying to understand
- 15:14Speaker 1: the business better, the history because everything's changing. Everybody's having
- 15:17Speaker 1: a like figure it out by themselves especially, and.
- 15:21Speaker 2: You're right, the business has changed. And again, uh, you know,
- 15:27Speaker 2: Mario I managed two record cycles, Life Jennings, I managed
- 15:33Speaker 2: two record cycles. We've done a whole lot of stuff
- 15:38Speaker 2: that people just don't know. We bought Eve's Eve's management company. Uh,
- 15:44Speaker 2: you know, a lot of things happen. And by the way,
- 15:47Speaker 2: Lady Gaga, the same management company that I bought, they
- 15:51Speaker 2: also managed god Go uh and Eve. So when you
- 15:57Speaker 2: see songs like Telephone but Beyonce and Lady Gaga. You
- 16:03Speaker 2: now say, oh, he was the manager for both, or
- 16:08Speaker 2: you see Nellie and Kelly. You know I can say, oh,
- 16:14Speaker 2: he bought Nellie's management company. That's why that happened.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Well, mister Nose, I I mean every time I talk
- 16:24Speaker 1: to you, I appreciate you and I feel like I
- 16:26Speaker 1: learned so much just history in the matter, in the
- 16:30Speaker 1: midst of all the things that are like as they unfold,
- 16:33Speaker 1: you always feel in the bubble so easily and so
- 16:35Speaker 1: well for us, with all the things that you've been
- 16:37Speaker 1: able to do.
- 16:37Speaker 3: So I really appreciate you for just taking the time today.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is all for two people. This
- 16:44Speaker 2: is for the fans of Destiny Child, who's waited so
- 16:47Speaker 2: patiently over the years and supported the Ladies, and I
- 16:51Speaker 2: think it's only right that we give them a back
- 16:55Speaker 2: up part of Destiny Child that they haven't seen, so
- 16:58Speaker 2: they can reimagine some of the things that we haven't
- 17:02Speaker 2: shared with them before. So first and foremost, this is
- 17:05Speaker 2: for the fans, and equal with that, this is for
- 17:08Speaker 2: the ladies. And it's not easy being a very best
- 17:13Speaker 2: in the world at something. But when I say they're
- 17:17Speaker 2: the number one female group in the history of music.
- 17:21Speaker 2: That's not me making up something. You can google this.
- 17:25Speaker 2: They were given that award by the World Music Awards
- 17:29Speaker 2: back in twenty two thousand and seven. I mean, they
- 17:33Speaker 2: actually deserve and won that award, And so I want
- 17:38Speaker 2: to give back to the ladies and all of this,
- 17:41Speaker 2: the things that we are doing now will also help
- 17:45Speaker 2: their solo careers. So strategically having this impact, having the
- 17:51Speaker 2: positive noise in the marketplace about Destiny's Child, it helps Michelle,
- 17:56Speaker 2: it helps Kelly, and it helps Beyonce and projects.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what to say, because all of the ladies,
- 18:02Speaker 1: I mean, of course we know that they work across
- 18:04Speaker 1: their own solo projects. But like I've seen Kelly talk
- 18:07Speaker 1: a little bit about, you know, she's gearing up to
- 18:09Speaker 1: release some her projects and recording things we've been waiting on. Beyonce,
- 18:13Speaker 1: Michelle is always working on things as well too. So
- 18:16Speaker 1: I get it.
- 18:16Speaker 3: I do.
- 18:18Speaker 2: And hey, I've seen with my own eyes twenty thousand
- 18:23Speaker 2: people go crazy when Kelly does her show, her solo shows,
- 18:30Speaker 2: because she does seven destiny Child songs. Right, So everybody
- 18:37Speaker 2: wins from this. The fans win, the ladies win, I win,
- 18:42Speaker 2: everybody wins, So thank you for the opportunity. I just
- 18:46Speaker 2: want people to go to Destiny's Child dot com and
- 18:50Speaker 2: those of you and New York and Houston and with
- 18:53Speaker 2: Chicago and Philly and Detroit, DC on July twenty fourth
- 19:02Speaker 2: in Houston. You know, we're looking forward to that first show.
- 19:05Speaker 2: We were doing our second segment of the Destiny Show.
- 19:10Speaker 2: I kind of reimagine tribute here and we started out
- 19:13Speaker 2: each one of them in Houston because this is hometown.
- 19:16Speaker 2: So and we look forward to seeing you and the
- 19:19Speaker 2: others shows that we do around the country. Go to
- 19:23Speaker 2: the Destinyshow dot com and get your tickets now because
- 19:25Speaker 2: they're selling out all of those cities. So thank you
- 19:28Speaker 2: for this opportunity. It's been great. I enjoy sometimes because
- 19:33Speaker 2: most people don't know the backstory or the history. They
- 19:37Speaker 2: think they know what the media gives them, often clickbait
- 19:41Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but they don't really know the real
- 19:44Speaker 2: stories about these songs about you know, how they came about.
- 19:49Speaker 2: And that's why I'm nar rating I'm doing the show
- 19:52Speaker 2: as well. Well.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Thank you for that.
- 19:54Speaker 1: It's needed every time that every time I talk to you,
- 19:57Speaker 1: I feel like I get a lesson on because you
- 19:59Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you got your diehard fan pages.
- 20:02Speaker 3: Who they know so much stuff. I'm like, how do
- 20:04Speaker 3: y'all even know all this stuff?
- 20:06Speaker 1: But even then, still I feel like anytime I watch
- 20:08Speaker 1: an interview with you where I talk to myself, I
- 20:10Speaker 1: get information that I had no clue about.
- 20:13Speaker 3: So we appreciate you.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Thank you. I have a great back you two