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Speaker 1: Peedo Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. It's been a very
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Speaker 2: busy day today. Let's get right into it. He is
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Speaker 2: what's coming up tonight on Kredline. At an official public
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Speaker 2: meeting yesterday into an Indigenous pretty for Victoria, Sky News
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Speaker 2: cameras were banned. So why the secrecy? Isn't this supposed
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Speaker 2: to be about truth telling? Just into damaging for Price
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Speaker 2: joins me for her take tonight. A prominent breastfeeding expert
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Speaker 2: who was previously sacked from her job for not using
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Speaker 2: gender neutral language, is facing a new legal fight for
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Speaker 2: social media posts labeling transgender breastfeeding as experimental. The brave
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Speaker 2: woman Jasmine Sussex joins me live tonight to explain by
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Speaker 2: her five for free speech, she's also about defending biological reality.
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Speaker 2: The ego has landed an AFL great slams a Prime
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Speaker 2: minister for his showing carry on at football finals over
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Speaker 2: the weekend, and as the Treasurer tries to blame the
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Speaker 2: RBA again, frustrated is fultering economy, new polling shows voters
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Speaker 2: unbuying his excuses. They say they trust the RBA, not labor.
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Speaker 2: Also today a long list of marginal seats at Labors
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Speaker 2: at risk of losing at the next election as the
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Speaker 2: government fails to arrest its slide in the polls.
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Speaker 3: It is self evident.
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Speaker 4: It is a factual point to say that a combination
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Speaker 4: of global economic uncertainty, persistent price pressures and higher interest
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Speaker 4: rates are slowing our economy. Higher interest rates are slowing
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Speaker 4: our economy. We saw it in the numbers for consumption,
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Speaker 4: discretionary spending with ouseholds dwell ends. We saw it in
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Speaker 4: a number of indicators in the national accounts.
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Speaker 3: Mister Speaker.
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Speaker 2: At first for a prime minister in his first term,
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Speaker 2: Anthony Alminesi's in deep trouble. It's probably true that voters
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Speaker 2: will give a first term incumbent to the benefit of
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Speaker 2: the doubt, because the latest polls still have the government
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Speaker 2: and the opposition tied at fifty to fifty. That's despite
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Speaker 2: all of Labour's broken promises and its sheer ineptitude like
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Speaker 2: its failed voice. A result, the Prime Minister owns himself
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Speaker 2: absolutely and the voters still don't trust he won't try
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Speaker 2: and force in by stealth anyway. Like power bills that
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Speaker 2: have risen by up to one thousand dollars per household,
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Speaker 2: despite the promises to instead cut them. Mortgage repayments too,
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Speaker 2: they've doubled since Labor was elected, twelve rate hikes under
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Speaker 2: Albanese's watch. Real wages too have fallen despite Labour's commitment
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Speaker 2: to boost them and all these new laws for Labour's
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Speaker 2: union mates the payoff for those election donations, or they're
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Speaker 2: smashing productivity. Then there's the green obsessions that have all
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Speaker 2: but stopped any new research developments in this country, killing
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Speaker 2: off our position as a global resource superpower. On health again, today,
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Speaker 2: more nationwide drug shortages are reported, this time for a
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Speaker 2: drug critical for pregnant women. Before that, it was ivy fluids,
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Speaker 2: before that, pain medication for palliative care. As a country,
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Speaker 2: we've never spent more on education, and yet we're falling
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Speaker 2: further and further behind our international competitors. Headlines today report
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Speaker 2: the teachers are quitting in droves, yet the government's focus
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Speaker 2: seems to be about activism in the curriculum, all the
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Speaker 2: while Naplan shows our children are struggling with the basics.
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Speaker 2: Then there's the incompetence and lack of resolve and border protection.
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Speaker 2: Foreign criminals let loose in the suburbs and tourist visas
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Speaker 2: handed out to people from Gaza. On the economy, the
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Speaker 2: unedifying fight between the Treasurer and the Reserve Bank, the
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Speaker 2: means fiscal and monetary policy are pulling in opposite directions.
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Speaker 2: A new poll out today reporting that fifty one percent
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Speaker 2: of voters blame the government for high interest rates on
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Speaker 2: only twenty seven percent of them blame the bank. Add
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Speaker 2: in as well, Australia's military passivity, almost passivism, as we
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Speaker 2: scale back our firepower and personnel at a time when
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Speaker 2: the challenges have never been greater. All of this cleverly
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Speaker 2: masked by all the talk about the Orchest commitment, but
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Speaker 2: that's decades and decades away. We need the subs now.
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Speaker 2: It's a sorry indictment on the Albanezy government that two
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Speaker 2: years in, when by rights they should be still in
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Speaker 2: a honeymoon phase, the Poles have them consistently in trouble.
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Speaker 2: The latest the red Bridge poll out yesterday, drills down
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Speaker 2: into individual seats as well as the overall vote, and
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Speaker 2: it shows that Labor is almost certain to lose its majority.
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Speaker 2: It indicates that Labor is at least three percentage points
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Speaker 2: behind in five key seats seats it currently holds Patterson
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Speaker 2: and Gilmore, both in regional New South Wales Aston that's
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Speaker 2: the outer suburbs of Melbourne, Lyons, Lions in Tasmania and
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Speaker 2: the Northern Territories big seat of Lingiari. Now beyond those
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Speaker 2: five where a loss is predicted, there's another fourteen seats
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Speaker 2: that Redbridge says are too close to call. And of
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Speaker 2: the fourteen, nine are currently held by Labour. So that's
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Speaker 2: a Hunter, Dobell Robertson in Regional in New South Wales,
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Speaker 2: ben Along in Sydney. There's also Chisholm, Bruce and McEwen
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Speaker 2: in Melbourne's outer suburbs. And in Wa there's the Perth
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Speaker 2: seat of Tangny, as well as the new seat of
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Speaker 2: Bullwinkle that's notionally Labour on the last election result. Now,
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Speaker 2: according to the Redbridge Pole, the Liberals are in trouble
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Speaker 2: in three places. Hughes, Casey and Ford their seats in Sydney,
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Speaker 2: Melbourne out of Brisbane respectively. And while Labour might take
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Speaker 2: Brisbane's Rye and back from the Greens and the Libs
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Speaker 2: and the Nats well, they face teal challenges and Wan
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Speaker 2: and encounper the Lips are currently ahead in two Teal seats,
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Speaker 2: Goldstein in Melbourne's Bayside area and Curtain in Perth. On
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Speaker 2: these figures, an eighteen seat gain that Peter Dutton needs
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Speaker 2: to win government in his own right no longer looks
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Speaker 2: like scaling Mount Everest without oxygen if he doesn't go early.
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Speaker 2: So on the usual election timetable was still nine months
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Speaker 2: away from the federal poll. Launching an attack ad today
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Speaker 2: against the coalition's nuclear plans, Labour is trying to exploit
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Speaker 2: areas where the Libs have more work to do. But
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Speaker 2: given that elections are essentially a referendum on the government,
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Speaker 2: not the opposition, change is now a real possibility. And
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Speaker 2: the fact that the PMS at war with the Unions,
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Speaker 2: the RBA, our resource sector universities to see if WU
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Speaker 2: and more, all of that means he is distracted. Were
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Speaker 2: still the Greens are playing with Labour's head, the Alps
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Speaker 2: spoot and it shows meaning it's choppy waters ahead for
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Speaker 2: the government. And as bad as things are now in politics,
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Speaker 2: so the saying goes, things can always get worse, all right,
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Speaker 2: We're back for sitting fortnite. Sky News political reporter can
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Speaker 2: Reddan joins me now from camera.
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Speaker 5: The Royal Commission into Veterans Suicide has demanded sweeping cultural
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Speaker 5: and practical changes to prevent service men and women from
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Speaker 5: taking their own lives.
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Speaker 1: We hope that the Royal Commission has achieved one thing,
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Speaker 1: which is to make the problems undeniable.
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Speaker 5: Commissioner Nick Coldas has recommended the creation of a new
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Speaker 5: agency to focus on helping veterans transition into civilian life.
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Speaker 5: Other proposals include creating proactive outreach programs to check in
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Speaker 5: with former ADF members and a specific inquiry into sexual
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Speaker 5: violence in the ADF following nearly eight hundred reported sexual
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Speaker 5: assaults in the past five years alone.
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Speaker 2: We will now work through the recommendations in a timely
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Speaker 2: and methodical manner.
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Speaker 6: Both sides of politics, over a long period of time,
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Speaker 6: despite the best of intent, have let these diggers down.
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Speaker 5: The Coalition has accused the government of bullying the Reserve
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Speaker 5: Bank over its approach to combating inflation.
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Speaker 7: Why does the alban Easy Labor government thinks it's acceptable
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Speaker 7: to bully the independent RBA in this way.
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Speaker 4: The Governor made a clear last week in her public
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Speaker 4: comments that she doesn't agree with the assessment work forward
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Speaker 4: by the Deputy leader.
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Speaker 5: South Australian Premier Peter Malanowskis has put forward a plan
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Speaker 5: to block children under the age of fourteen from having
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Speaker 5: social media accounts.
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Speaker 8: A single law across the country.
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Speaker 5: Great, but I'm not going to sit around and wait
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Speaker 5: forever for that, so we've got to get on with it.
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Speaker 5: Quantas would not be forced to sell off Jetstar under
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Speaker 5: a coalition proposal to boost competition in the aviation sector.
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Speaker 2: Quantus and its market share is a problem for airfares
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Speaker 2: for the Australian public.
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Speaker 5: Shadow Transport Minister Bridget Mackenzie used a newspaper off ed
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Speaker 5: to propose the Treasurer look at whether divestiture powers could
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Speaker 5: reduce market concentration. But the Nationals say they don't want
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Speaker 5: to break up Quantus, only to have the powers to
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Speaker 5: do so. Considered, well, it's not coalition policy yet because
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Speaker 5: we haven't got the evidence.
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Speaker 9: Another evidence free and damaging thought bubble.
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Speaker 2: Two new polls out today more bad news for the
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Speaker 2: Albanezer government. The first reporting fifty one percent of voters
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Speaker 2: hold Labour responsible for high inflation. Despite the treasure Jim
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Speaker 2: Chalmer's spin and the billiance he's spent in cost of
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Speaker 2: living handouts. The result of Political Marta shows Labour in
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Speaker 2: trouble too, slipping one point to a terminally low primary
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Speaker 2: vote of twenty eight percent, the Coalition remaining steady at
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Speaker 2: thirty seve seven. The other poll, this one conducted by
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Speaker 2: Wolf and Smith, shows voters deserting Labor, losing four percentage
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Speaker 2: points since May twenty twenty two, the Coalition again remaining steady.
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Speaker 2: For more on this than the other top stories of
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Speaker 2: the day, I'm joined now by Sky one's Political Report
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Speaker 2: at cam Redden and the Daily Telegraphs reporter James Willis Well, Jens, Welcome, James.
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Speaker 2: I'll go to you first. We've seen the spin in
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Speaker 2: overdrive in the last couple of weeks, trying to win
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Speaker 2: the voters, over going hard on the Reserve Bank. That
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Speaker 2: poll's pretty clear they're not moving and if you look
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Speaker 2: at those numbers, if you go back to that second poll,
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Speaker 2: the May twenty twenty two, it's almost this time last
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Speaker 2: year when the Prime Minister really lost the signature you know,
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Speaker 2: ask he had of this term, which was the voice,
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Speaker 2: is never really recovered in the polls since then.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Peter and I think they lost an awful lot
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Speaker 6: of time, the Labor government trying to get the voice
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Speaker 6: over the line, and that distracted ultimately from the key
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Speaker 6: issue that everyone across Australia was concerned about, which was
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Speaker 6: cost of living. And we're now beginning to see the
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Speaker 6: promises that the Prime Minister made more than two years
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Speaker 6: ago when he was first elected. He's promised for a
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Speaker 6: cheaper Australian, cheaper mortgages, cheaper energy, all that sort of thing.
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Speaker 6: And what they have managed to do in the time
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Speaker 6: that they've been in government, and we've seen we saw
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Speaker 6: today that this big promise for one point two million
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Speaker 6: new houses by twenty thirty, not a single house has
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Speaker 6: been built under that major plan. We've had to give
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Speaker 6: everyone a two hundred and seventy five dollars energy bill relief.
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Speaker 6: People are smart enough to realize that's robbing Peter to
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Speaker 6: pay Paul. It's just putting money onto a credit card
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Speaker 6: that we'll have to pay down the track. The cost
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Speaker 6: of living is not getting any cheaper. We've seen that
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Speaker 6: people that are in unions or people that are linked
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Speaker 6: to government jobs, public service jobs, attached to the ndies,
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Speaker 6: they seem to be doing quite well. But for the
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Speaker 6: average person in these mortgage belts of Australia that don't
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Speaker 6: qualify for all a lot of the government relief that's
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Speaker 6: been handed out over the past few years. People are
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Speaker 6: beginning to wonder what the Prime Minister's plan is to
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Speaker 6: get them out of this.
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Speaker 10: And I think the.
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Speaker 6: Cheap shots at the Reserve Bank didn't do them any
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Speaker 6: favor in the last few days as well, so they're
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Speaker 6: certainly in big trouble.
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Speaker 10: We know when I heard your editorial off the top.
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Speaker 6: We know that Anthony Albanezi didn't win the last election
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Speaker 6: by a rud like majority or a hawk like majority.
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Speaker 10: It is very very tight and if.
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Speaker 6: People don't start getting a discount on their mortgages and
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Speaker 6: start seeing some of these things come under control, then
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Speaker 6: the Prime Minister is in big trouble heading into the
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Speaker 6: next pole.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting too, it's often perception not reality, so they
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Speaker 2: don't have to be themselves in trouble on their mortgage yet,
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Speaker 2: but they know it's coming and they've got to see
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Speaker 2: that the government's got a plan, that they've got adults
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Speaker 2: in charge, and I think that's where the government's shooting
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Speaker 2: itself in the foot. Can We've got data out today
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Speaker 2: and this underscores a point James is making there about
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Speaker 2: you know, people in the public service payroll doing quite
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Speaker 2: well compared to others who are struggling. Two thirds of
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Speaker 2: the jobs created under labor are taxpayer jobs. Six hundred
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Speaker 2: thousand people join the market the jobs market in the
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Speaker 2: last two years they were employed in public sector roles.
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Speaker 2: Only about three hundred thousand were jobs added to the
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Speaker 2: private sector. Now, this is a real issue because it's
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Speaker 2: the same people who are earning money as taxpayers in
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Speaker 2: the private sector bankrolling these government jobs, which is all
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Speaker 2: a part of I think labour's gaining the system to
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Speaker 2: keep us out of recession, keep bringing in people, keep
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Speaker 2: the population nice and high, keep spending up big. But
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Speaker 2: it's all artificial money.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it goes back to that notion of a
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Speaker 5: per capita recession. Peter, any economist will tell you that
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Speaker 5: a per capita recession is what people actually feel. That
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Speaker 5: means that you're going backwards, even if the economy on
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Speaker 5: the numbers and the numerical basis of it might be
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Speaker 5: going forward, because of course, if you bring more people in,
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Speaker 5: you're producing more as an economy, just on the pure
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Speaker 5: ones and zeros of it, and therefore the economy grows
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Speaker 5: per head, it means people are going backwards and six
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Speaker 5: straight quarters now is what we've been in on that
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Speaker 5: notion too, of the idea that government spending is keeping
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Speaker 5: us out of recession. There's some competitive economic thinking about this,
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Speaker 5: because one argument that is being made is that, well,
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Speaker 5: perhaps if the government had scaled back its spending sooner,
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Speaker 5: that might have cleared the way for the Reserve Bank
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Speaker 5: to deliver one or two rate cuts by now, therefore
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Speaker 5: allowing public i should say, private spending to rise in
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Speaker 5: its place as government spending fell off, so like a
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Speaker 5: leveling out of the scales, if you like. So that
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Speaker 5: kind of leads us into this game of chicken now
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Speaker 5: nine months from an election, or does the Reserve Bank
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Speaker 5: cut rates, hope the government scales back on spending and
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Speaker 5: potentially risk inflation going even higher. Or does the government
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Speaker 5: roll the dice, does it cut its spending and hope
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Speaker 5: the Reserve Bank cuts rates, but risk sending us into
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Speaker 5: recession right before an election. So look, it's all about timing,
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Speaker 5: and none of it really bodes well for the government.
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Speaker 2: I've got to say, Yeah, Michelle Bollok's not stupid. She's
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Speaker 2: been in the RBA A long time mate. She's watched
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Speaker 2: plenty of governments. I don't think any government cut spending
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Speaker 2: going into an election, let alone a Labor government. And
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Speaker 2: this government's got form. They love spending our money. I
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Speaker 2: don't think that's going to happen. So I think she'll
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Speaker 2: hold off what we might call what's the whole story
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Speaker 2: with this census issue and sexual orientation questions gender being
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Speaker 2: included in the twenty twenty sixth census. James, it's a
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Speaker 2: real own goal from Labor. I'm surprised they've made this mistake.
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Speaker 2: It's opened up a big fight with them on the
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Speaker 2: hard left and the Greens and others have gone after
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Speaker 2: the PM today in question time, what's the backstory here?
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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's embarrassing, Peter, and I think you
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Speaker 6: spoke about adults being in the room.
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Speaker 10: I'm not too right now.
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Speaker 6: I'm not even sure about what's actually occurred or what
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Speaker 6: the final decision is. What I do know is that
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Speaker 6: we've had threats of boycotts, we've had apologies, we've had
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Speaker 6: MPs of all levels saying oh look, it's really really
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Speaker 6: unfair to not include questions in the census about a
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Speaker 6: sexual identity or anything to do with the lgbt QI community.
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Speaker 6: We had a promise from Labor to include this in
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Speaker 6: the twenty twenty six senses. Two weeks ago we had
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Speaker 6: Richard Mars, the Deputy Prime Minister, say well, we're probably
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Speaker 6: not going to do that and we're going to be
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Speaker 6: driven by science and data.
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Speaker 10: So he made his point there.
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Speaker 6: Then there was more backlash and we're now hearing the
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Speaker 6: Prime Minister may have caved and tried to make everyone
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Speaker 6: happy and sort of meet halfway and include some questions
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Speaker 6: but not others. But ultimately this is a distraction the
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Speaker 6: Prime Minister did not need right now.
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Speaker 10: It's eaten up a lot.
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Speaker 6: Of column inches and it's the kind of thing that
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Speaker 6: I think could have been resolved at a much lower level,
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Speaker 6: behind closed doors, rather than become the front.
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Speaker 10: Page story in certain newspapers. It all seems a bit.
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Speaker 6: Of a mess and it's the kind of distraction the
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Speaker 6: Prime Minister didn't need right now.
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Speaker 2: And it's given to him. His first leaks out of
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Speaker 2: cabinet three ministers were unnamed, obviously noted as sources. The
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Speaker 2: other day, what's going on the set with that build
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Speaker 2: the environmental or reform build from time to plev st can.
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Speaker 2: It looks like there's been some horse training there with
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Speaker 2: the Greens. They would to block fossil fuel projects, I'm told,
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Speaker 2: and some logging.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, still stuck in the mud on this one, Peter.
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Speaker 5: It all boils down to this idea of what's called
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Speaker 5: a climate trigger. This new agency that Tania polipisect the
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Speaker 5: Minister wants to set up, would essentially be a regulator
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Speaker 5: that would have the power to approve or block big
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Speaker 5: new projects, think minds, think damns, those sorts of things.
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Speaker 5: The Greens want a clause put into this agency and
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Speaker 5: everything that goes before it that if a project is
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Speaker 5: to emit so much in terms of greenhouse gas emissions,
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Speaker 5: or if it meets certain climate criteria, that it would
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Speaker 5: automatically be blocked. Now they've said today that they're willing
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Speaker 5: to compromise to some extent on the design of what
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Speaker 5: that climate trigger might look like. But the Greens aren't
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Speaker 5: going to budge on having nothing or something, if you like.
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Speaker 5: They want some kind of mechanism that would allow for
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Speaker 5: the blocking of projects on climate ground. So it's still
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Speaker 5: in the process of being threshed out behind the scenes.
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Speaker 5: I'm told that that's likely to go throughout much of
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Speaker 5: this week and we may not even have an outcome
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Speaker 5: by week's end, but you can you can obviously see
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Speaker 5: how sensitive this is given the current debate around the
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Speaker 5: Blaney mind issue and the Coalition saying well, we don't
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Speaker 5: just want more triggers that can be pulled for these
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Speaker 5: major projects to be blocked, whether that's on environmental or
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Speaker 5: on heritage grounds.
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Speaker 2: James. A couple of days ago, I was talking about
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Speaker 2: cuts to particular drugs. We know that there was a
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Speaker 2: critical shortage of ivy fluids in Australia. We know that
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Speaker 2: was a shortage of oral morphine it's a painkiller used
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Speaker 2: by pagative care patients. Well, today we learn there are
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Speaker 2: more nationwide drug shortages, this one hitting critical obstetric medicines.
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Speaker 2: Without these drugs, pregnant women are put at risk of
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Speaker 2: serious complications. It's to do with high blood pressure and pregnancy.
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Speaker 2: The Society of Obstetric Medicine in Australia and New Zealand
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Speaker 2: have said this is a perilous situation. Now, I don't
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Speaker 2: know what the Health min is bloody well doing if
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Speaker 2: it is not working to get these critical drugs into
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Speaker 2: Australia or at least getting some supplies. Here's some manufacturers
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Speaker 2: to pick up the slack. This goes to the stuff
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Speaker 2: that cuts through with ordinary people and changes their perception
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Speaker 2: of the government.
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Speaker 6: That's right, and it's a massive vote when you start saying, well,
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Speaker 6: instead of relying on overseas supply of anything.
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Speaker 10: We're going to make it right here.
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Speaker 6: We're going to open an Australian made factory, or we're
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Speaker 6: going to start doing it here so that we don't
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Speaker 6: have to rely on the supply chains being cut or
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Speaker 6: anything else.
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Speaker 10: But look, my consumer, this.
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Speaker 6: Is You've got doctors, you've got gynecologers saying this is
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Speaker 6: putting lives at risk. They've been raising the alarm on
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Speaker 6: this for quite some time. They've now written about it
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Speaker 6: at length. And you've got the TGA saying we're very
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Speaker 6: concerned about the shortages and we're doing our best. Now,
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Speaker 6: at what point do we get ahead of this and
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Speaker 6: start saying, well, these are the medicines that are in
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Speaker 6: short supply, we're going to start making these here. We've
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Speaker 6: got this big National Future Fund which is meant to
19:57
Speaker 6: be worth fifteen billion dollars. Let's start put some of
20:00
Speaker 6: that money to use and start making some Australian made things,
20:03
Speaker 6: so we don't have to rely on this problem until
20:05
Speaker 6: it's too late. But we do every time, one after
20:08
Speaker 6: the other. It'll be another medicine next week. Not long
20:10
Speaker 6: ago it was diabetes, medicine related to weight loss things.
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Speaker 6: I mean, this just keeps happening. Let's start making it
20:16
Speaker 6: right here and we don't have to worry about the
20:17
Speaker 6: rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you I'd forget hydrogen by twenty fifty or
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Speaker 2: sixty or whatever they've got. Let's get some medicines made
20:25
Speaker 2: in Australia right now. Gentlemen, thank you all right, listen
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Speaker 2: to this. You often hear it said that Australia faces
20:31
Speaker 2: a gas shortage, only we don't. We face a gas
20:36
Speaker 2: supply issue. But that's a very different thing, because we've
20:39
Speaker 2: got plenty of gas in the ground. We just lack
20:41
Speaker 2: the political will to extract it. And it's because of
20:44
Speaker 2: this lack of will and the left now demonizing gas
20:48
Speaker 2: as much as cole. We face blackouts ahead. And nowhere
20:53
Speaker 2: is there a concern more profound than in Victoria, where
20:56
Speaker 2: about our natural gas will eventually cause residents to retro
20:59
Speaker 2: fit their homes with electric appliances. But in some good
21:03
Speaker 2: news of a sorts today, the Allen government's now reversed
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Speaker 2: at least one aspect of that decision. One man who's
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Speaker 2: led the charge against these bands, Victoria's Shadow Minister for Energy,
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Speaker 2: David Davis, joins me, Now, well it's been so it
21:19
Speaker 2: was a big win for households, David. But you dig
21:23
Speaker 2: a little bit deeper into the detail, I reckinon. There's
21:26
Speaker 2: a whole lot of window dressing here. I mean, as
21:29
Speaker 2: I read it, she'll let me have a gas stove
21:33
Speaker 2: but not a gas heater, am I.
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Speaker 8: Right you are? And it's a sham. It's an absolute shambles.
21:40
Speaker 8: It's chaos in Victoria with energy policy. So we've got
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Speaker 8: a government that said we're going to let you have cookers,
21:48
Speaker 8: but we're not going to let you have gas hot water,
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Speaker 8: and we're not going to let you have gas heating.
21:54
Speaker 8: So and meanwhile new estates have gas banned on them.
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Speaker 8: You're not allowed to connect a new connection to gas
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Speaker 8: on the network since the first of January. So the
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Speaker 8: state government's war on gas is continuing. It's a shambles.
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Speaker 8: It's an absolute chaos. What on earth is the logic
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Speaker 8: of allowing just cookers. But if you're gas ducted, and
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Speaker 8: you know, for the rest of Australia, Victoria is cooler
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Speaker 8: than a lot of parts of Australia, and that gas
22:27
Speaker 8: ducted heating is a very important part of keeping Melbournians
22:32
Speaker 8: and other Victorians worn. Now, if you're forced to rip
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Speaker 8: out the gas ducted heating, put in a heat pump
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Speaker 8: up on the side of the wall in one room,
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Speaker 8: that's not the same. It's not the same as the
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Speaker 8: warmth and house wide heating that you get with gas ducted.
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Speaker 8: We're going this is really heading back to the nineteen
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Speaker 8: sixties before gas was supplied natural gas, i should say
22:58
Speaker 8: was supplied, and all of this from an ideological government
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Speaker 8: that has declared war on gas, won't allow any exploration
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Speaker 8: for that gas, you know, and now says, oh, well,
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Speaker 8: we might let some happen. But the truth is ten
23:14
Speaker 8: years the gas supply shortage is their fault. They should
23:18
Speaker 8: have dealt with this. We should have lots of gas
23:20
Speaker 8: is on shore, conventional gas in Victoria that's available. It's
23:25
Speaker 8: just that they haven't given me permits for people to explore.
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Speaker 8: So Victorians.
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Speaker 2: One of the things with the price David chaotic policy.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that's been put to me by
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Speaker 2: Polsters and others is that the reason why they've made
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Speaker 2: this change on cookers and not heaters. And of course
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Speaker 2: you spend a lot more on your gas heating than
23:44
Speaker 2: you do on your gas sove in terms of running it.
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Speaker 2: But the reason why they've done this, there's been a
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Speaker 2: huge backlash against Labor from Asian and Indian voters who
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Speaker 2: love to cook with gas. The homes are connected to gas.
23:57
Speaker 2: They love the wock cooking in that style of cuisine,
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Speaker 2: and that's why Labor backing down on this. That's what's
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Speaker 2: been put to me.
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Speaker 8: Or do you think, well, there's no doubt that Indian
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Speaker 8: families and Asian families certainly love their gas cooking, but
24:14
Speaker 8: so does the average Aussie. The average Australian you know,
24:19
Speaker 8: a British background in Victoria, loves their gas cooking. That's
24:23
Speaker 8: the truth of the matter. People want that, they want
24:26
Speaker 8: that option. It is true if if you want to
24:28
Speaker 8: cook your walk, it's much better on a gas stove.
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Speaker 8: But this should be about choice. To Peter, it shouldn't
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Speaker 8: be mandating that choice is closed off like this. Even
24:40
Speaker 8: the federal governments recognize that Australians should have a choice
24:45
Speaker 8: on what sort of energy they put in their home.
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Speaker 8: But this government, a very ideological government, is determined to
24:53
Speaker 8: cut that choice and continue their war on gas, a
24:56
Speaker 8: ban on gas. They've moved, for example, rental properties. They're
25:01
Speaker 8: moving on rental properties to say, if you're a landlord
25:05
Speaker 8: and the gas ducted heating, you know it reaches the
25:08
Speaker 8: end of its life, you will not be allowed to
25:12
Speaker 8: connect a gas ducted heating system back in. You will
25:16
Speaker 8: have to go to a heat pump. You will have
25:18
Speaker 8: to go to an electric option. Now, those electric options
25:22
Speaker 8: are just not going to heat the house the same.
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Speaker 8: That's the truth of the matter. And I'll tell you
25:26
Speaker 8: what people do when they've got inadequate heating. They rush
25:29
Speaker 8: out and they buy those small fan heaters. They put
25:32
Speaker 8: them around their feet and they heat the bedroom with
25:36
Speaker 8: those small fan heaters, and that choose through the power,
25:40
Speaker 8: like you know, very very fast. Indeed, So it's actually
25:43
Speaker 8: this is counterproductive, counterproductive, it's actually ideological, and the government's
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Speaker 8: war on gas is continuing. No new heaters.
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Speaker 2: Just before we go, no new gas, yep, just before
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Speaker 2: we go. Victoria heavily in debt, borrowing money from overseas.
26:05
Speaker 2: So how on earth could the state afford to give
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Speaker 2: every public servant in the state five and a half
26:10
Speaker 2: thousand dollars as a cost of living payment?
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Speaker 8: Where you'd have to ask a set of questions there,
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Speaker 8: and you know, the state, if it wants to pay
26:22
Speaker 8: people more and it wants a higher stand of living,
26:25
Speaker 8: we've got to stop the waste. This is more than
26:28
Speaker 8: forty billion dollars of waste on large projects. It's no
26:32
Speaker 8: wonder where slipping behind. It's no wonder. The cost of
26:36
Speaker 8: living is so bad in Victoria. And we're certainly in
26:41
Speaker 8: a per capita recession in Australia, but the per capita
26:45
Speaker 8: recession in Victoria's been running for a number of years now.
26:48
Speaker 8: People's standard of living is falling because the government is
26:52
Speaker 8: taxing them so harshly and squandering so much money.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'll over it there, David Davis, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Five and a half thousand dollars is to every public servant,
27:03
Speaker 2: even those on the big wages, you know, seven eight
27:06
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Right after the break, why was the
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Speaker 2: media blocked from a treaty event in Melbourne and an
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Speaker 2: exposing letter. Explosive letter that explodes the myths behind time
27:17
Speaker 2: in your plever sex decision to block the blaany gold
27:19
Speaker 2: line just senter Nampa, Jimper Price Up next, Plus a
27:23
Speaker 2: breastfeeding expert facing a legal fight for saying that transgender
27:27
Speaker 2: women so biological men can't breastfeed or talk to Jasmine
27:31
Speaker 2: Sussex Up soon. Stella Heir, the Victorian breastfeding expert who's
27:38
Speaker 2: facing legal action over social media posts denying the transgender
27:43
Speaker 2: women can breastfeed. Why she says she won't be silenced
27:47
Speaker 2: Up next, But first, Despite the national referendum rejecting an
27:51
Speaker 2: Indigenous voice to the Parliament, many states are taking it
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Speaker 2: upon themselves to introduce the Treaty and so called truth
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Speaker 2: telling anyway. First out of the blocks, no surprises here
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Speaker 2: is Victoria. Over the weekend, a treaty event billed as
28:05
Speaker 2: a public meeting was held in the Melbourne suburb of Greensborough.
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Speaker 2: Sky News reporter Georgie Dickerson went along to try and
28:13
Speaker 2: find out exactly what was happening.
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Speaker 11: Putting a focus on First Nations issues. This community forum
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Speaker 11: in Greensboro, northeast of Melbourne, was organized to educate locals
28:25
Speaker 11: on treaty very important.
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Speaker 10: It's critical.
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Speaker 9: So we broke up in this country and started to
28:32
Speaker 9: loud the truth of our true history. We need to
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Speaker 9: work with them, whereas they say, walk with them.
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Speaker 11: Almost three hundred people registered their interest for the event.
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Speaker 11: Q and A discussions were a central aspect of the
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Speaker 11: forum to answer the community's questions and concerns.
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Speaker 2: Two reasons, to find out more about what's proposed as
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Speaker 2: part of a treaty and secondly, to hear what other people.
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Speaker 1: Have to say treaty will work. I think lots of
29:02
Speaker 1: people have concerns about what a treaty might mean, and
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Speaker 1: from what I've seen so far, there's no real reason
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Speaker 1: for anybody to be particularly worried about it.
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Speaker 12: The opportunity for face to face discussions I think are
29:13
Speaker 12: really important because it's so easy to have social media
29:18
Speaker 12: all sorts of media content that we get these days
29:22
Speaker 12: that is very curated, very siloed, and it just kind
29:25
Speaker 12: of builds people's engagement with what they're already thinking.
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Speaker 11: Many people Sky and You spoke with on their way
29:32
Speaker 11: to the event, we're already supportive of the idea of
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Speaker 11: treaty in Victoria.
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Speaker 7: Most of the people I talk to and no do
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Speaker 7: want this to happen, and it's really important for the
29:44
Speaker 7: country way over you.
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Speaker 2: It was promised a long time ago.
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Speaker 13: I think it's really important that we begin to engage
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Speaker 13: in a really detailed way with the First Nations people
29:53
Speaker 13: of our country and to recognize what our entitlements are
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Speaker 13: and what their entitlements are.
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Speaker 11: Sky News attended the media today with the intention of
30:01
Speaker 11: filming the forum for news coverage. Unfortunately, our request to
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Speaker 11: film the event was denied and we are unable to
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Speaker 11: show you what happened inside. Proponents of treating in Victoria's
30:12
Speaker 11: say it would help put practical frameworks in place to
30:15
Speaker 11: implement better policies and give First Nations people are great
30:18
Speaker 11: to say on issues that impact their everyday lives.
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Speaker 1: It's something that's going to happen in Victoria hopefully, and
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Speaker 1: you know, you want to you want to bring people along.
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Speaker 1: You want people to understand that every single nation on
30:30
Speaker 1: Earth that that has involved, you know, colonization, has made
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Speaker 1: a treaty with the indigenous people and you know, all
30:38
Speaker 1: of those countries are doing fine and there are you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a problematic thing. And the
30:43
Speaker 1: fact that Australia hasn't done. It really makes us stand
30:45
Speaker 1: out as a as a country that's that's kind of
30:48
Speaker 1: hiding from its.
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Speaker 11: Past treating negotiations in Victoria and due to beginning later
30:52
Speaker 11: this year. This process is designed to determine what is
30:55
Speaker 11: included in treaty. That framework would then be legislated in Parliament.
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Speaker 13: Hope going to be a strong message that they'll listened to.
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Speaker 11: Georgie Dickinson, Sky News Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: All right for her take of joined now by Shadow
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Speaker 2: Minister for Indigenous Australians Senator Price, will welcome. First of all,
31:14
Speaker 2: obviously the media were blocked, but you can see from
31:17
Speaker 2: everyone turning up there just into I don't think there
31:19
Speaker 2: was one person that had any skepticism about a treaty.
31:23
Speaker 2: And I remind people at home Victoria voted against the
31:26
Speaker 2: Voice last year, even woke Victoria. This is all done
31:31
Speaker 2: with public money. Why the secrecy, Well, that's exactly right.
31:37
Speaker 7: I mean that should be the first red flag so
31:41
Speaker 7: far in this process. It should have been made public.
31:45
Speaker 7: It's a publicly funded event. This is going to affect
31:48
Speaker 7: all Victorians. You can absolutely see the naivety from those attending.
31:54
Speaker 7: But you know what's concerning is the lack of transparency
31:59
Speaker 7: in this process. We also know that the First Nation's
32:02
Speaker 7: Assembly only had a ten percent vote to turn out
32:07
Speaker 7: to elect its members. So can it legitimately say it
32:11
Speaker 7: is a representative body of Indigenous Victorians? And you can
32:16
Speaker 7: already hear the language being used by those attending is
32:20
Speaker 7: a real US and them approach. I mean, we are
32:23
Speaker 7: Australian citizens, Indigenous Victorians Australian citizens. There shouldn't be this
32:29
Speaker 7: US and them approach that certainly this process is.
32:34
Speaker 2: Ingraining that division within communities. It can feel the game though,
32:41
Speaker 2: you know, get these state treaties up, don't ask too
32:44
Speaker 2: many questions, have these little forums. I mean, three hundred
32:47
Speaker 2: people in Melbourne's not a big number to get along
32:49
Speaker 2: to something. I don't let the media are in be
32:52
Speaker 2: able to say as they will after that meeting, everyone
32:55
Speaker 2: was in support of it. Push it through the parliament.
32:58
Speaker 2: You'll get it through the Victorian parliament and then the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister will be compelled once there's a number of
33:03
Speaker 2: states with the treaty to say, well, look at all
33:04
Speaker 2: the states have got a treaty, we really need want
33:06
Speaker 2: at a national level. He won't put that to a
33:09
Speaker 2: referendum and all of a sudden will be where we voted.
33:12
Speaker 2: We didn't want to go this time last year.
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, It's really deeply concerning stuff. And especially when
33:22
Speaker 7: you've got a represent a body that's claiming to be
33:24
Speaker 7: a representative body with such.
33:26
Speaker 2: A low voter turnout.
33:27
Speaker 7: You know, it's like this, what's going what's underway in
33:30
Speaker 7: South Australia at the moment with their legislated voice again
33:34
Speaker 7: ten percent voter turnout, where's that going to go to?
33:37
Speaker 2: You can't suggest that.
33:39
Speaker 7: With these sort of shady closed door events and this
33:45
Speaker 7: inability to provide account of transparency, that this is actually
33:50
Speaker 7: going to be a true democratic process that heads toward legislation.
33:56
Speaker 7: And this legislation process but you know, we all know
34:00
Speaker 7: that mister Albanezi is sitting in the background waiting for
34:03
Speaker 7: all these states to conduct their treaty processes and then
34:08
Speaker 7: ram it on through and Australians should be very concerned.
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Speaker 2: This is going to affect every single one of us.
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Speaker 7: But we know that there's governance issues as accountability issues
34:17
Speaker 7: with many organizations.
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Speaker 2: Why would we want to extend that further through this
34:21
Speaker 2: process over the weekend. This is going back to the
34:26
Speaker 2: blaming gold mine. Over the weekend The Australian had a letter,
34:29
Speaker 2: an explosive letter. It showed the claims of ancient camp ovens,
34:34
Speaker 2: possible burial sites, an initiation area near the proposed mind
34:40
Speaker 2: We're all examined and then dismissed as having no authenticity
34:45
Speaker 2: by Indigenous elders representing the local Land Council. This is
34:50
Speaker 2: an ongoing issue just under its still dogging the minister.
34:55
Speaker 2: Surely we've got real problems here that these new and
34:58
Speaker 2: emerging groups may not bit all representative of those with
35:02
Speaker 2: a long recognized Aboriginal leadership in a particular area, are
35:06
Speaker 2: somehow getting primacy over the groups that, in this case
35:11
Speaker 2: the blady might have been dealing with for decades.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and this is the concern that is taking place.
35:20
Speaker 7: This is why we need to take a closer look
35:22
Speaker 7: at Native title, at things like the Ooriginal Heritage Act,
35:28
Speaker 7: the Heritage Actor that I know that my colleague Senator
35:32
Speaker 7: Dunham is looking wants to look closer at to review
35:36
Speaker 7: because we can't allow a situation where we get false
35:40
Speaker 7: claims being made, pushed by activists who are anti development,
35:45
Speaker 7: who just want to bring an end to a lot
35:48
Speaker 7: of these projects that we're seeing. I mean, when the
35:52
Speaker 7: Minister wants to override and disregard the legal entity the
35:57
Speaker 7: orange Land Council who have this proven these claims and
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Speaker 7: listen to a group that is a registered charity not
36:06
Speaker 7: actually a representative group of the traditional owners instead in
36:11
Speaker 7: making a decision that affects not just the Indigenous people
36:14
Speaker 7: in that community, but the entire region in terms of
36:19
Speaker 7: creating prosperity, in terms of creating jobs and a future
36:23
Speaker 7: for their kids that region. It's deeply concerning and we
36:26
Speaker 7: absolutely need to look closer. You wrong justent to thank
36:31
Speaker 7: you or I still come. A breastfeeding experts' efforts to
36:35
Speaker 7: protect free speech even as she dragged before a tribunal
36:39
Speaker 7: for defending basic biology. Jasmine Sussex upnext, still Heir the
36:49
Speaker 7: PM and a fire for his behavior at the footy
36:51
Speaker 7: over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it is a shocker. More on that with
36:54
Speaker 2: my panel in the moment. The first a Victorian breastfeeding
36:57
Speaker 2: experts being taken to Queensland's Civil Administrative Tribunal after she
37:02
Speaker 2: criticized attempts at breastfeeding by trans women so biological men.
37:07
Speaker 2: This practice involves biological men who have transitioned, taking hormones
37:12
Speaker 2: to stimulate milk production from an anatomically male breast. In
37:17
Speaker 2: a series of social media posts, Jasmine Sussex claims it's
37:21
Speaker 2: experimental and it's a dangerous fetish. This latest controversy comes
37:26
Speaker 2: after she was sacked by the Australian Breastfeeding Association back
37:30
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one and came on here on Kredline
37:33
Speaker 2: after she refused to use gender neutral language like chest
37:38
Speaker 2: feeding rather than breastfeeding. But Miss Sussex is vowed she
37:42
Speaker 2: won't be silenced. I'm pleased to say, I'm delighted to
37:45
Speaker 2: say the very brave, Jasmine joins me. Now, we were
37:48
Speaker 2: talking in the break, weren't we. I mean, the world
37:50
Speaker 2: is crazy. Now, were you surprised that you got this
37:54
Speaker 2: anti discrimination complaint leveled at you?
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Speaker 9: I was just because I have no real relationship with
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Speaker 9: this man, and he's been campaigning online for years, literally
38:06
Speaker 9: since he transitioned, to normalize this practice of trans women
38:11
Speaker 9: trying to induce lactation, and so it took the Queensland
38:16
Speaker 9: Human Rights Commission a long time to process his complaints.
38:20
Speaker 9: So I thought that he was accepting that there are
38:24
Speaker 9: different views in the community, but obviously not.
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Speaker 2: I think there's one big view in the community. I mean,
38:30
Speaker 2: most people would think that this is beyond the pale
38:34
Speaker 2: I suspect. In the medical community, it's divided. I mean,
38:37
Speaker 2: you're a lactation specialist. How on earth does someone with
38:43
Speaker 2: male breasts lactape for a baby? What quality of milk
38:48
Speaker 2: is that for an infant? Yeah, well, we just really
38:50
Speaker 2: don't know.
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Speaker 9: There's a handful of case reports that have been published
38:56
Speaker 9: in really the transactivist medical lobbies, so in the endochronology
39:02
Speaker 9: journals and in the trans health journals, so that they
39:06
Speaker 9: really don't tell us anything other than the experience of
39:10
Speaker 9: that individual trans identifying man, you know, and what he claims.
39:15
Speaker 9: They're all self reports, so no one's had them in
39:19
Speaker 9: a laboratory expressing milk or you know, we just it.
39:22
Speaker 2: Would be the same quality as a woman's milk with
39:24
Speaker 2: colosstrum and everything else that comes from that. Is it
39:27
Speaker 2: the same quality of breast milk?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it seems very unlikely. You know, men who have
39:34
Speaker 9: disorders of the peturitary glands, the hormone centers that contribute
39:41
Speaker 9: to breastfeeding, can secrete a fluid from their chests even
39:46
Speaker 9: if they haven't, you know, if they're not trans women.
39:49
Speaker 9: So you know, we know from that that there's some
39:52
Speaker 9: things in that fluid that's similar to mother's milk, but
39:58
Speaker 9: one of the major problems seems to be that they
40:00
Speaker 9: only make starvation quantities of this fluid and.
40:04
Speaker 2: We're never enough to feed an infant.
40:05
Speaker 9: No no, So you know, and you also just have
40:08
Speaker 9: to ask, well, why, you know, why do they want
40:11
Speaker 9: to and should we indulge that kind of selfish desire
40:15
Speaker 9: to use the baby to affirm their gender identity.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's really my concern.
40:20
Speaker 9: I think it's a safeguarding issue, and I also think,
40:24
Speaker 9: you know, I'm sure it's a small group within the
40:27
Speaker 9: trans community who are advocating for this, because everybody loves
40:32
Speaker 9: their children, but you know, really we just need to
40:36
Speaker 9: protect the mother baby diad. They're the only ones that can,
40:40
Speaker 9: you know, as a natural flow of pregnancy and then
40:44
Speaker 9: they're able to breastfeed, and everybody else really needs to
40:47
Speaker 9: get out of the way.
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Speaker 2: We've spent a lot of i think time if in publicity,
40:53
Speaker 2: over the probably the last thirty years, forty years. Maybe
40:55
Speaker 2: it's certainly in my lifetime to normalize breastfeeding to make
40:59
Speaker 2: it publicly acceptable, where perhaps it wasn't a few years back.
41:03
Speaker 2: To encourage women to persevere if they were having trouble,
41:06
Speaker 2: experts like you were available via the Breastfeeding Association. But
41:10
Speaker 2: at the same time that association gets rid of you
41:14
Speaker 2: because you want to keep saying mother and breastfeeding words
41:18
Speaker 2: that are innate to women, and you're now being forced
41:21
Speaker 2: to use all this gender language that just I think
41:26
Speaker 2: most Australians would say you're right and their wrong.
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Speaker 9: Well, I've definitely had overwhelming support from Australians in the
41:33
Speaker 9: last couple of days, and you know a lot of
41:36
Speaker 9: people just can't really believe that this is happening. You know,
41:39
Speaker 9: they thought it was just about language a few years back,
41:42
Speaker 9: but now they realized the language was.
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Speaker 2: Away in the true point.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right, And really we've been gas lit
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Speaker 9: into normalizing that, you know, breastfeedings for everybody, when really.
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Speaker 2: Women have been gasoline. Yeah, you know, it's not women
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Speaker 2: necessarily here pretending blokes getting into men's changing rooms in
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Speaker 2: men's spaces. It's women who are losing everything we thought
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Speaker 2: for for so long, Jasmine, that's the problem.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's definitely the problem. And I think you know,
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Speaker 9: the health ministers and the attorney generals, these people who said,
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Speaker 9: you know, it's a good idea to extend non discrimination
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Speaker 9: to people on the basis of gender identity, they just
42:24
Speaker 9: need to get involved now and say or did you
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Speaker 9: really intend that.
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Speaker 2: It's crossed the line? Yeah, it's not about some level
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Speaker 2: of balance. The scales achieve really against women. So who's
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Speaker 2: helping you with your case? How can my audience get
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Speaker 2: behind you and support you any way they can?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I am very lucky. The Human Rights Law
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Speaker 9: Alliance are helping me. They've been helping me since early
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Speaker 9: this year. But as we get towards the tribunal, there
42:50
Speaker 9: are going to be legal costs. I've got to fly
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Speaker 9: up to Queensland, bizarrely for a Victorian woman, and also
42:57
Speaker 9: will need the support of psychiatrists and pediatricians and you know,
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Speaker 9: other medical professionals to really unpack why this is quite wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, my audience behind you one hundred
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Speaker 2: and ten percent. I am to come back here anytime.
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Speaker 2: Keep us updated. Thanks, You're so brave, keep it up.
43:17
Speaker 2: You're fighting for everyone. You really are, you really are. Thanks,
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Speaker 2: She's amazing. Right after breaking my Panel, the craziness with
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and the AFL footy on the weekend,
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Speaker 2: a whole lot more see you in a moment. Welcome
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Speaker 2: back All the band's back together again tonight for Howard,
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Speaker 2: Government Minister's guid Needs contributor Gary Hargraves's partner in crime
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Speaker 2: LMPMP Keith Pitt. We're going to start with nuclear. The ETU,
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Speaker 2: the Electrical Trades Union, they're planning to run a major
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Speaker 2: anti nuclear ad campaign. Labour's wanting one too, but this
43:55
Speaker 2: is the union. The ETU national secretary says that nuclear
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Speaker 2: energy will pose a risk to existing jobs. Labour's attack
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Speaker 2: ads have gone out today. They say your plan, Keith Pitt,
44:08
Speaker 2: could cost some six hundred billion dollars. What do you
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Speaker 2: make of these.
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Speaker 14: Claims, Peter, I don't know where the et you were
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Speaker 14: coming from.
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Speaker 9: Here.
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Speaker 14: There's a detailed report in the United States that says
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Speaker 14: there's actually more jobs and better pay from nuclear replacing coal.
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Speaker 3: And let's look at the difference.
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Speaker 14: So coal fired stations are obviously driven by coal to
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Speaker 14: produce steam.
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Speaker 3: Nuclear producer steam.
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Speaker 14: Everything else is the same turbines, same generation, same distribution,
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Speaker 14: same transmission, the same transformers, same protection systems the same.
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Speaker 14: So anyone that knows anything about electricity knows this is
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Speaker 14: complete nonsense.
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Speaker 2: And you say that it's an entergy yourself as an
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Speaker 2: electrical an electrical bloke in the past, and you remember
44:51
Speaker 2: where you remember at any time with the ETU Keith Pitt.
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Speaker 14: Actually I actually was Peter very briefly as I came
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Speaker 14: out of my car and I they came after me
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Speaker 14: because I didn't pay them a bill because I was
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Speaker 14: doing I was overseas.
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Speaker 3: Had apparently you had to do it writing. You couldn't
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Speaker 3: just ring.
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Speaker 2: Up there you go, there, you go down in Victoria.
45:11
Speaker 2: It is a cardinal sin to do a lot of
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Speaker 2: things wrong if you're an interstate or in relation to
45:16
Speaker 2: the AFL. One of those is to wear the flag
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Speaker 2: or the scarf, sorry of any other club but your own,
45:22
Speaker 2: even if your bunnies, even if you're at the bottom
45:24
Speaker 2: of the lava, you've got to stick with them. You
45:26
Speaker 2: can't shop and change. But there's pictures of the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: He reckons he's a Hawthorne man. While he's there in
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Speaker 2: a Hollywood scarf. A Sydney wants Swan scarf and Geelong
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Speaker 2: scuff and Hawthorne is the one at the moment. They
45:37
Speaker 2: were in a game on the weekend and he sachets
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Speaker 2: down to the club rooms after the win against the
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Speaker 2: Western Bulldogs and Friday night have a listen and the.
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Speaker 8: Prime Minister, mister albaneasy that was from ninety seven and
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Speaker 8: a half thousand in the house eithernight.
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Speaker 15: Awesome crowd, great atmosphere and great match and it.
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Speaker 10: Was the sending straight.
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Speaker 16: These guys are irresistible at the.
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Speaker 3: Moment, are they not.
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Speaker 15: Well, they're just young guys having a crack and playing
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Speaker 15: incredible football. Yeah, two goals down quite a time, but
46:08
Speaker 15: they hung in there and we're just awesome.
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Speaker 8: Amazing the excitement that something like this can generate for
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Speaker 8: the people.
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Speaker 3: You can see the people in the rooms.
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Speaker 15: He had outs. That's great. You can fill the atmosphere
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Speaker 15: right around the ground too, around the j was.
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Speaker 3: An awesome night, enjoyed.
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Speaker 10: Good on you.
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Speaker 2: So that's one of his four Melbourne teams. Well the
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Speaker 2: footy great Nathan Brown was out on nine Sunday Footy Show.
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Speaker 2: Not happy, not impressed, have listened well.
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Speaker 17: Because I feel like the Prime Minister this was for
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Speaker 17: the good of himself going into the Hawthorn rooms this
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Speaker 17: sickens me. Anthony Alban He's had a look at the pole.
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Speaker 17: Peter Dunton is closing and he's in front. There's a gap.
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Speaker 17: He feels like I need to look like a common man.
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Speaker 17: I'm going to go into the Hawthorn rooms give it up,
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Speaker 17: elbow and no one's buying it.
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Speaker 2: That's a bit of a whack. Gary, Yeah.
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Speaker 16: Look and and Nathan Brown's right. I mean it's been
47:04
Speaker 16: a lean few years to Hawthorne, let's face it, and
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Speaker 16: they would be taking those who are just jumping on
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Speaker 16: the bandwagon very very poorly. I'm a member of the
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Speaker 16: Brisbane Line Supporters Club, Peter, I know where your football
47:17
Speaker 16: loyalties lie. I'm not going to hide my view and
47:21
Speaker 16: I cheer them all on in so many different ways.
47:23
Speaker 16: But seriously, this bloke is a phony and now even
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Speaker 16: the football crowd no, he's a phony.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 2: To underline the point for people at home, I barick
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Speaker 2: for Richmond, have since I was born. My brother played
47:36
Speaker 2: in the last year of fitz Roy before it became
47:38
Speaker 2: the Brisbane Bears and then the Brisbane Lines. I didn't
47:41
Speaker 2: move to Fitzroy. He then played a Hawthorne. I didn't
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Speaker 2: move to Hawthorne either, it never wore a Hawthorne scaff
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Speaker 2: This is where the Prime Minister's got himself into a
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Speaker 2: bit of trouble. Let's go to the housing. We find
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Speaker 2: out today no new homes have been completed under Labour's
47:56
Speaker 2: thirty two billion dollar scheme. Less than three billion is
47:59
Speaker 2: actually been paid out for direct construction. There's a ten
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Speaker 2: of billion dollar Housing Australia Future Fund. It's also yet
48:07
Speaker 2: to hand out any money at all for social and
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Speaker 2: affordable housing. We also learned this target Keith one point
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Speaker 2: two million homes by twenty thirty. They haven't built a home.
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Speaker 2: If you're not spending the money, how are they going
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Speaker 2: to get their target? Mat are they?
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Speaker 3: Peter?
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Speaker 14: This is just labor reruns. And I know you remember this.
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Speaker 14: Remember the say Hip program in the Northern Territory. Hundreds
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Speaker 14: of millions and nearly everything went on consultants and no
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Speaker 14: houses were built at all. And this will be no different.
48:38
Speaker 14: They've already spent thirty million dollars on consultants. Give me
48:42
Speaker 14: the money, I'll sort it out. I'll get some houses
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Speaker 14: built faster than you can believe, because there are people out.
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Speaker 3: There that desperately you need it.
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Speaker 14: And it just gets tied up in red tape and
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Speaker 14: admin pass throughs, particularly with the state.
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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 14: Let the industry get on with what they do best,
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Speaker 14: and that's build houses.
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Speaker 2: Queensland, Allen and Gary they're pledging to build a three
49:03
Speaker 2: tier public register for child six offenders if they win
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Speaker 2: next month. They're calling this Daniel's Law. This is a
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Speaker 2: course after Daniel Moore Come David christopherly says. It will
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Speaker 2: cost about ten million and this is how it'll work.
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Speaker 2: Offenders who are at large or breach reporting conditions will
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Speaker 2: be named, will know who they are, Their photos will
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Speaker 2: be on a website that's tier one. Public will be
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Speaker 2: able to find out which are the high risk offenders
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Speaker 2: that are in their local area under tier two, and
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Speaker 2: then the guardians kids at risk they'll be able to
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Speaker 2: inquire about specific individuals under tier three. This sounds fantastic.
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Speaker 2: It's about time. But Gary, why the hell isn't this national?
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Speaker 16: Well, I think Peter Dublin's Prime Minister will be because
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Speaker 16: he's already given a commitment very similar to this, and
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Speaker 16: I know a couple of states have borrowed this idea
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Speaker 16: and good on them. It's got to be done as
49:57
Speaker 16: a national thing.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: Fantastic gentlemen, Thank you both of your time. Enjoy Canberra, Keith,
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Speaker 2: I'm not there. That's it for me. You see tomorrow
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Speaker 2: night at six Andrew bolts up next