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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, April 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, JP Shacker John Ojan and NFL Network analyst
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Speaker 1: Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. Welcome into the
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Speaker 1: Huddle Up Podcast. It's Wednesday, April J. P. Shadrick with
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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, Bucky. What's up? What's up? Guys? We're getting
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Speaker 1: close to the draft. I'm excited the off season proke
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Speaker 1: Ram kicked off the Jacksonville. There is a lot to
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Speaker 1: discuss and I'm excited. Yet a lot happened in Johnny O. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean the draft is coming up fast, and I'm
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Speaker 1: fascinated to get into a couple of the issues. But
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Speaker 1: oh yes, we'll get to that coming up, and just
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Speaker 1: a little bit here on Huddle Up today. We start off, though,
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Speaker 1: with the off season program. As you mentioned, Bucky Well,
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Speaker 1: the volunteering period is underway. Players officially arrived Monday strength
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Speaker 1: and conditioning meetings. There are no coaches allowed on the
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Speaker 1: field except for the strength and conditioning staff. A few
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Speaker 1: players at the podium Tuesday, including Trevor Lawrence, Jaguar's quarterback,
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Speaker 1: explaining the fresh feeling around the organization just from like
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Speaker 1: energy and morale boost. It does feel like starting over
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Speaker 1: in a good way. You know, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: a lot of positivity in the locker room and the building,
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Speaker 1: a lot of energy, which has been great. I think
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Speaker 1: it's important to to just kind of learn from last
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Speaker 1: year and always not necessarily think about that all the times.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to think about the bad things, but
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Speaker 1: you want to use what you learned and not make
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Speaker 1: the same mistakes, especially as individuals as as players, like
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Speaker 1: things that went right went wrong. We all have things
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Speaker 1: we can get better at, and for me, I learned
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Speaker 1: so much so I wouldn't say it's like starting over
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Speaker 1: because I'm I'm thankful for those things I learned. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to start over, you know. I want to
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Speaker 1: keep those in my back pockets. So stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a good way to look at it,
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Speaker 1: and I think guys are doing that. Quarterback Shaquille Griffin
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Speaker 1: explained the first football interactions with the new coaching staff.
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Speaker 1: Get a chance to see the new coaches um for
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Speaker 1: the first time and have everybody back. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: been It's been awesome. It's a different field. I love
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Speaker 1: that feeling and get a chance to be with coaches
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Speaker 1: who have experience in the league. You know, the first
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Speaker 1: day we met with coaching and people are saying, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was in the league ten years, eleven years, ten years,
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Speaker 1: twelve years that have actually played. That's amazing to me.
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Speaker 1: And that's a person who can understand anything that I
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Speaker 1: might see or go through or maybe in the future
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Speaker 1: that can help me out. So I've liked the atmosphere
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Speaker 1: is different because it's so relatable. And then there's running
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Speaker 1: back Travis E. T n Jr. Who missed last season
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Speaker 1: with the Liz Frank Entry. He says he's eighty five
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Speaker 1: to ninety percent back and ready. But he also had
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Speaker 1: a quote of the day about last year. No, No, definitely,
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Speaker 1: just that's just a human element of it. Uh, just
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Speaker 1: send the results. You're definitely like, if there was any
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Speaker 1: year to miss, I missed a great one. Well, there
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Speaker 1: you go, Travis c t In telling it like it is.
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Speaker 1: Some different perspectives there, Bucky on last season moving and
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Speaker 1: had to twenty two. Yeah. The one thing I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna start with is I'm gonna start with Shaquille Griffin's
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Speaker 1: quote and why it's relevant to where the Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: and how they can rebuild the program. He talked about
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Speaker 1: being able to have coaches who have pro experienced, guys
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Speaker 1: who have played, guys who are relatable, so they can
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Speaker 1: kind of relate to the struggles that take place between
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Speaker 1: the lines. It's really important because the one thing that
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Speaker 1: players want is they want coaches that have a level
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Speaker 1: of credibility where when things get hard, the coach has
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Speaker 1: to be a problem solved. And so it's not saying
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Speaker 1: that someone who hasn't played can be a great coach,
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Speaker 1: but there's a different connection that players have those who
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Speaker 1: have played because a lot of times, those who are
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Speaker 1: played understands that they understand the difficult downs that are
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Speaker 1: player player may experience, meaning when they're on the fields
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Speaker 1: that hey man, that's a tough play. I get that
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Speaker 1: we put you in a bad situation. However, we need
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Speaker 1: you to do X, Y and Z. Just that little
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Speaker 1: caveat gives a player, um a little more confidence that
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Speaker 1: at least the coach understands how hard it is between
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Speaker 1: the lines. Sometimes when you have a coaching staff where
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Speaker 1: you don't have as many guys that have played the game,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they think that XS and those on the white board, uh,
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Speaker 1: play out just like that on the grass, and it's different.
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Speaker 1: It's different when you've got real players out there as
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Speaker 1: the chef pieces, as opposed to all the things that
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Speaker 1: you may draw up in the meeting rooms. Yeah, just
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Speaker 1: the experience of of of having a young team. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's uh. But he talks about on the field, I
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Speaker 1: can probably imagine how life is off the field better
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Speaker 1: than I ever played. It's a it's a Wednesday, ay
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Speaker 1: and things are going weird, and you're sitting in the
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Speaker 1: meeting room with your coach, and you can ask the coach,
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Speaker 1: hey is this how it's supposed to be, and the
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Speaker 1: coach said, yeah, here's what I've seen before. Here's what
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Speaker 1: I saw eight years ago when I was in Houston,
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Speaker 1: or here's where here's what I saw when I was
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Speaker 1: in Miami playing fifteen years ago. I it's certainly I
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Speaker 1: think for a young player who hasn't seen the NFL before,
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Speaker 1: helps to have a coach who's been in it for
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Speaker 1: twelve years, who isn't standing at a podium, which happened
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Speaker 1: a lot last year, or even in the meeting room
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Speaker 1: saying yeah, I'm learning about this too. That's okay. But
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Speaker 1: it strikes me that this team right now is in
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Speaker 1: a situation where it really needs the guy who's not
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Speaker 1: saying yes, I'm learning too, it's yes, I can, I
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Speaker 1: can help you get through this. And I'm with Bucky.
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Speaker 1: I think I don't know that it's always needed, but
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Speaker 1: it sure feels like it's needed, and it's going to
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Speaker 1: be a defining element of this team right now. Yeah
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Speaker 1: in some in some cases, um, it doesn't have to be.
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Speaker 1: But you would like to have a little diversity on
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Speaker 1: your staff in terms of mixture of the experience playing
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Speaker 1: and coaching. The experience because you have uh fifty three
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Speaker 1: different types of guys coming from different backgrounds in charms
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Speaker 1: of how they played, how they got to this destination
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And so when you have
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Speaker 1: um a diverse staff when it comes to those experiences,
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Speaker 1: you have different guys that can relate to different things.
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Speaker 1: But when we talk about the youth and inexperience on
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Speaker 1: the team, when you have coaches who have not only
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Speaker 1: coached in the league a long time, but have played,
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Speaker 1: they can explain the different cadence and rhythms of the season.
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Speaker 1: They can stand in front of the team and say, Okay,
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Speaker 1: here's where we are where the off season program, here's
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Speaker 1: what the objective is. The objective is to learn the
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Speaker 1: basis of the playbook, to get the strength and conditioning part.
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Speaker 1: Now as we're building up to the mini can then
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Speaker 1: they can stand again and say, hey, we're we're at minicamp. Now.
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Speaker 1: It's one thing to learn it, it's another thing to
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Speaker 1: be able to execute it. And now we've got to
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Speaker 1: be able to evaluate you on how you able to
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Speaker 1: take things from the meeting room to the field. But
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Speaker 1: just those little tidbits along the way will help the
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Speaker 1: team because they'll understand the objective of every situation, where
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Speaker 1: we are in preseason, where we are doing the regular season,
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Speaker 1: all of those other things. I think that is the
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Speaker 1: biggest thing. From a credibility standpoint, The questions have been eliminated, like, hey,
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Speaker 1: does this guy know what he's doing? Well, now that
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Speaker 1: is out because they're not only played, but they've also coached,
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Speaker 1: and they've done it at high levels. Because you have
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl winners and both reguards. I've always said, JP,
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Speaker 1: what you don't want is guys standing around the locker
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Speaker 1: room talking amongst themselves, trying to figure out yeah, and
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Speaker 1: having little huddles in the locker room going hey is
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Speaker 1: this coach? So it's hard and once that starts, it's
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Speaker 1: hard to get it rolling the other way. Um. And
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Speaker 1: that's why again, last seven or eight years in STP
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Speaker 1: and I have been working together, He's serve me eight
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Speaker 1: a million times coaching about eight years ten years? Well,
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Speaker 1: are we talking about teams like twenty? I wanted to
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Speaker 1: just sort of minimize that. But the head coaches and
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Speaker 1: the coach's ability to have players believing in what they're
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Speaker 1: saying to me, maybe you're too far the other way.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I think that's so much more important than ext knows.
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Speaker 1: Having these guys on the same page and believing in
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Speaker 1: you in professional football. Uh, if you don't have that,
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Speaker 1: I think you're lost. And I think this staff is
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Speaker 1: gonna have that. Yeah, culture matters more than scheme. The
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Speaker 1: environment that you created matters more than the XS and os.
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Speaker 1: If there's a level of connectivity, if the program is
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Speaker 1: built on commitment, accountability, and trust, where everyone in the building,
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Speaker 1: everybody on all sides, not only the football side, but
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Speaker 1: the business side, everyone understands like, hey, here's how we
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Speaker 1: go about doing our business. Then it's a lot easy
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Speaker 1: here because everyone understands what the standards are and how
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Speaker 1: they have to live up to the standards and make
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Speaker 1: no mistake. John alluded to something that I don't know
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Speaker 1: if people realize this, but one of the first things
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Speaker 1: that players do they go to the media guy and
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Speaker 1: they look at every coach's background and they read this stuff.
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Speaker 1: And if you come from a little spot and you
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Speaker 1: don't have any relative experience, you can up there and
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Speaker 1: expose all these crazy philosophies and theories. But players are
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Speaker 1: looking at you sideways when they don't believe that you
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Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about, and you don't want
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Speaker 1: to have those little side conversations that John is talking about.
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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast. Let's hear a little
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Speaker 1: more from Trevor Lawrence. I guess kind of on the
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Speaker 1: subject Press Taylor Younger coach in the NFL. He's been
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Speaker 1: around the league. He's the offensive coordinator though for the Jaguars. Well,
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Speaker 1: the quarterback loves the interaction so far with the OC.
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Speaker 1: I really like his demeanor. It's really really calm. I
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Speaker 1: mean similar honestly to coach Bevil as far as demeanor,
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Speaker 1: really calm, never gets too higher, too low. Um, So
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Speaker 1: I really like that. That's the type of guy I
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Speaker 1: like to be around, and as far as just offensively
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Speaker 1: brings some different things to the table. Obviously, we haven't
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Speaker 1: been together for long. I only really started on on Monday,
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Speaker 1: so I can't say too much right now, But really
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Speaker 1: like the way he thinks about things and just how
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Speaker 1: he the offense is so complimentary, and just how he
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Speaker 1: schemes things up. I think it's he does a really
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Speaker 1: good job of fighting the weak points of defenses and
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Speaker 1: exposing them. And I just think he's really smart and
10:21
Speaker 1: being able to talk to him. I think we align
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Speaker 1: pretty well and we're we're on the same page. So obviously, guys,
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Speaker 1: that's important to have those two at least on the
10:30
Speaker 1: same page working well together. Doug Peterson will come in
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Speaker 1: as the week goes along during the week and they'll
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Speaker 1: work together on formulating a game plan. But to have
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Speaker 1: that that based relationship, John Vital Yeah, and I'll I'll
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Speaker 1: throw this one to the scout because you know, he's
10:46
Speaker 1: been in the locker rooms. He's seen more this than
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Speaker 1: I have. How much can environment and what Trevor is
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Speaker 1: talking about help him? And I guess the overwriting question
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Speaker 1: is do we even know based on anything that happened
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Speaker 1: last season, what Trevor Lawrence is going to be or
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Speaker 1: just sort of start now if they can get everything
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Speaker 1: right around him. You see I'm getting at But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think a couple of things. I think we do
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Speaker 1: know what Trevor Lawrence is about because he dealt with
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Speaker 1: difficult circumstances last year, and I came away with more
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Speaker 1: respect and admiration for him after watching him go through
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Speaker 1: what he did as Rickey season than I did prior
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Speaker 1: to him arriving with the Jaguars because he was a
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Speaker 1: model uh pro and handling all of the stuff that
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Speaker 1: a rookie, a first year player should not have to
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Speaker 1: him at the base of the franchise. Secondly, I think
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Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence talks about Luny talked about Press Taylor's demeanor,
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Speaker 1: the calmness, the poise. That stuff matters. Because here's what
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Speaker 1: you have to understand. Trevor Lawrence comes from a situation
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Speaker 1: in Clemson where devils when he was the coach. Devil
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Speaker 1: can be maybe animated on game day, but that's not
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Speaker 1: his ordinary thing. Also, the guys that were close to
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Speaker 1: Trevor um Tony Yelliott and those guys, they also are
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Speaker 1: mere teachers than screamings. And so now what you have is,
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Speaker 1: because I noticed that person, you have Doug Peterson, who's
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Speaker 1: a teacher, not a screaming. You have Press Taylor, who
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Speaker 1: is a teacher on the scream. You have Mike McCoy
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Speaker 1: who's a teacher. You have two of those guys who
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Speaker 1: played in the National Football League. So now what Trevor
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Speaker 1: has is a think tank of guys who cannot only
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Speaker 1: see it through his eyes, but they could give it
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Speaker 1: to him in a way that's easily digestible without all
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Speaker 1: of the emotion. And so if you think about how
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Speaker 1: heart the position is, the last thing that you need
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Speaker 1: to do is just parts through emotional responses. PREMI your coach.
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Speaker 1: The thing that players want to give me the information,
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Speaker 1: Make it clear and direct so we can talk about
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Speaker 1: it and then I can go play. I think just
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Speaker 1: in that clip, Trevor has more confidence because he just
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Speaker 1: knows the way that information is coming to him is
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Speaker 1: going to be easy for him to just kind of fly.
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Speaker 1: So didn't go and do a hard job. We'll get
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Speaker 1: press Taylor's view of this tomorrow. He's joining us on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy our radio tomorrow afternoon in our first conversation
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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars Offensive Coordinated One more from Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: and his press conference yesterday. The volunteering work with the
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Speaker 1: wide receivers at this moment is key if it's done properly.
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Speaker 1: We started throwing a little bit altogether this first time
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Speaker 1: we could use the facility, so um offseason. Obviously, most
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Speaker 1: of those guys that are new didn't get here until
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Speaker 1: right before we start O t A, so they're trying to,
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Speaker 1: you know, find places all that. So I didn't get
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Speaker 1: to work with them much this off season, So now
13:35
Speaker 1: we got a lot of time. You know, we have
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Speaker 1: two weeks of just throwing our own and then we'll
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Speaker 1: have that period and after those two weeks where we
13:42
Speaker 1: start getting out there with some coaches, some routes on air,
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Speaker 1: all that stuff, So you've got time to progress into it.
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're in a good spot right now.
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Speaker 1: It's I think more important just to get everybody speaking
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Speaker 1: the same language more. We're doing the installs, whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: Get everybody on the same page so when we're out
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Speaker 1: there and we're all saying the same things. Because if
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Speaker 1: you're out there and no one really is on the
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Speaker 1: same page and you call routes different things, that makes
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Speaker 1: it more difficult. So we're getting there now. We're working
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Speaker 1: towards it. Really like you know, from what I've f
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Speaker 1: from the what I've talked to him and I've been
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Speaker 1: around him, I really like all the new guys that
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Speaker 1: we have. I think they're all grinders, really hard workers,
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Speaker 1: and we'll bring a we'll bring something this organization needs,
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Speaker 1: you know, the right attitude, just the right guys. I
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Speaker 1: think that's just as important as getting a great players
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Speaker 1: as guys that are gonna do things the right way,
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Speaker 1: and I think all of them are that way. From
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Speaker 1: what it seems, it sounds like obviously establishing that language
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Speaker 1: is what's happening this week. It's the first time to
14:32
Speaker 1: really talk football together, coaching staff to players. There's people
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Speaker 1: from all different walks of the NFL and football. You
14:40
Speaker 1: have to have that one language before you can start
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Speaker 1: building an offense. Bucky. Yeah. Like listening the Trevor, the
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Speaker 1: teams are always the same. He talked a little. It
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Speaker 1: didn't talk as much about their playing ability, but he
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Speaker 1: more talked about the guy. When we talk about culture
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Speaker 1: matters more than scheme and all that other stuff. Think
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Speaker 1: in his short time he's realized that is who's around you,
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Speaker 1: and can we have uh fifty three guys that are
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Speaker 1: all doing the same things, meaning we're all working, we're
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Speaker 1: all here to get better, we're all here committed to
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Speaker 1: winning games. There's no outside distractions when it comes to
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Speaker 1: what we're doing. I think that's big, and I think
15:19
Speaker 1: that comes on the heels of her shock talk about
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Speaker 1: not being able to go live or document things that
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Speaker 1: were inside the building, having to put the phone away.
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Speaker 1: I think what you're seeing is a level of professionalism
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Speaker 1: that is kind of being impressed upon the team. And
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Speaker 1: here's how we're going to do this. We're going to
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Speaker 1: be pros. And when we're here, we're locked in. We're
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Speaker 1: focused on getting better and it's more about putting in
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Speaker 1: the work, unless about all the other stuff that can
15:47
Speaker 1: be secondary to winning games. Not quite the concentration line
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Speaker 1: from back in the old days, right, But I mean
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Speaker 1: even though the concentration line, look man, the concentration line
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Speaker 1: in theory, but sometimes you need to stap into focus.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a thing I would think for
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Speaker 1: John when John walking across that concentration line, he went
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Speaker 1: out there to do the best job that you can do.
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Speaker 1: Is locked in watching all the people. I think sometimes
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Speaker 1: it makes you stand up a little straighter. For years,
16:11
Speaker 1: I had a concentration line signed for years that I
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Speaker 1: took from Steven's point the first training camp. Um and uh.
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Speaker 1: But I think this is a very important offseason and
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Speaker 1: jps eyebrows are gonna raise because I always talk about
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Speaker 1: how unimportant the off season is, but who are you?
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Speaker 1: I've always said for a young quarterback and especially a
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Speaker 1: young offense, off season are very important. I'm looking forward
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Speaker 1: to testing my theory someday JP, where if you have
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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback who still needs to be here during
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Speaker 1: the off season, but veteran people around him, uh, with
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Speaker 1: a coach and a coordinator who have been here for
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Speaker 1: a couple of years, then I think the off season
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Speaker 1: attendance guys being here uh diminishes, the need for that
16:55
Speaker 1: diminishes greatly, and then it really can become voluntary. Guys
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Speaker 1: can come in and and sort of check in and
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Speaker 1: see what they need to know, what they need to learn.
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Speaker 1: But for a new staff, for new people getting to
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Speaker 1: know each other, this time is critical. And uh, unfortunately
17:12
Speaker 1: Ja has been in a cycle of newness, so all
17:15
Speaker 1: seasons are always critical. And uh, you know, is this
17:19
Speaker 1: more critical than others? I don't know. It is because
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Speaker 1: it's now and because you want this team to get
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Speaker 1: better and uh, I loved writing her from Trevor yesterday.
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Speaker 1: I'm with Bucky. I think he gets it. I think
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Speaker 1: he gets what's important first and understands if he has
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Speaker 1: the right guys around him, everything else falls into place.
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Speaker 1: Because these guys are pros. If they're the right guys,
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Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. Hold on the job. I'm a
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Speaker 1: pushback on you because the off season important all the
17:45
Speaker 1: time regards to whether you're a veteran or a young guys.
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Speaker 1: It's very important because I know you talked about just
17:50
Speaker 1: popping get what you don't know. We don't do that.
17:52
Speaker 1: We need you here, We need a percent attend It's
17:54
Speaker 1: it's Florida, it's warm. Volunteer volunteers want to be great.
18:01
Speaker 1: We have a lot of volunteers, a lot of volunteer.
18:03
Speaker 1: We have a great attendance. But for Trevor, the reason
18:06
Speaker 1: this is important, The biggest jump that quarterbacks make typically
18:11
Speaker 1: is from their first year to their second year. And
18:14
Speaker 1: the reason why this is the most players in general. One,
18:17
Speaker 1: you now have a better understanding of the NFL game. Two,
18:20
Speaker 1: you now have a better understanding of your weaknesses as
18:23
Speaker 1: relates to the NFL game. If you've had a real
18:25
Speaker 1: off season to work on your game, not to work
18:28
Speaker 1: on combine training and all the other stuff that precede
18:31
Speaker 1: your rookie season. The other part is you now understand
18:37
Speaker 1: how to put a plan in place to put yourself
18:39
Speaker 1: in a position to be at your best. You've experimented
18:42
Speaker 1: with things throughout your rookie season based on what you
18:44
Speaker 1: learned from veterans and the coaches or whatever. Now you
18:47
Speaker 1: begin to put a plan in place. So this offseason
18:50
Speaker 1: is him putting it all together, him having a better
18:53
Speaker 1: understanding of what's real and what's needed and what's unnecessary.
18:57
Speaker 1: And I think his language when he talks about guy
19:00
Speaker 1: as being on the same page, the same verbage and
19:03
Speaker 1: all that comes from last year. Maybe it's been in
19:06
Speaker 1: a mess and him rear value Reodson, Yeah, this probably
19:09
Speaker 1: could be a little better when it comes to me
19:11
Speaker 1: getting ready to play with my guys on the court.
19:13
Speaker 1: For young players, it's critically important for a five year veteran.
19:20
Speaker 1: Everybody Reggie Wayne after after his third year and I
19:26
Speaker 1: hope I'm getting I'm getting the year right, and a
19:28
Speaker 1: Fredd here, listen to this. If I'm wrong, I apologize.
19:30
Speaker 1: Throughout his career, once he got himself established, he'd come
19:34
Speaker 1: in the first week of voluntaries, make sure he knew
19:37
Speaker 1: it was going on. Come back second year of mandatories.
19:40
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'll come back for the mandatory,
19:42
Speaker 1: come back for training camp, play the season, go to
19:45
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, go to the playoffs, come back do
19:47
Speaker 1: it again the next year. For guys like that, you
19:49
Speaker 1: don't need it for Indianapolis. What am I doing in Indianapolis?
19:55
Speaker 1: It's cold, it's snowy. How can I get good work in?
19:58
Speaker 1: We're talking about a different hard and Jacksonville is warm.
20:02
Speaker 1: Running back, I ever saw the same thing here, Fred Taylor.
20:05
Speaker 1: If you're I think you got him, John, Winner, John,
20:10
Speaker 1: talk to your boy m j D about the off season.
20:13
Speaker 1: That's right. You'll see him in a couple of days.
20:16
Speaker 1: He'll lie to you and tell you he was here,
20:17
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't know you. See. But I look, I've
20:20
Speaker 1: seen mg D in no disrespect with m j D.
20:23
Speaker 1: Looks like he still needs to be an off season program.
20:25
Speaker 1: Now that's that's my point. I need him back so
20:28
Speaker 1: I can monitor and make sure he's good. That's fair.
20:32
Speaker 1: You win that one, okay, Winner Buck. The Jaguars are
20:36
Speaker 1: a future focused and ready for a new look in
20:39
Speaker 1: Join us to the bank this season as Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: six three three two thousand. Bucky brings out the draft
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Speaker 1: crystal ball after this Welcome back to the Huddle Up Podcast.
20:57
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osan the upcoming dailies
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Speaker 1: Place schedule. It's getting red hot, Little Dirk April nineteen,
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Speaker 1: Tim McGraw May five, Erica Bado with jaw Rule, and
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Speaker 1: nights of Keith Urban, tickets and Info Daily's place dot com.
21:18
Speaker 1: When was Goody Mob pop? That's years yeah, a while ago.
21:23
Speaker 1: That was when I was playing geez yeah, that's really
21:28
Speaker 1: excited about my ear getting ready for Keith Urban. He
21:35
Speaker 1: brought a big good mob. It takes me to a
21:36
Speaker 1: different place. That's certainly a different place. Nineties locker room
21:40
Speaker 1: I believe had some Goody Mob playing. I bet they did,
21:43
Speaker 1: Bet they did. Hey, we're two weeks to the NFL Draft,
21:47
Speaker 1: a little over two weeks, two weeks in a day
21:49
Speaker 1: in fact, Bucky on April thirteen, this Wednesday, what are
21:54
Speaker 1: you feeling at number one overall? Right now? At the
21:57
Speaker 1: end of the day, I think eight Hutsonson is going
21:59
Speaker 1: to be to pick. I think we're gonna go through
22:01
Speaker 1: this securitist route where we go all over the place,
22:04
Speaker 1: and we talked about all these different guys. I think
22:06
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you hear the
22:09
Speaker 1: players talk about the locker room, the environment and best stuff,
22:13
Speaker 1: the most important thing you have to do when you're
22:14
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson you're bringing in a new era, is the
22:18
Speaker 1: first pick has to embody everything that you're about. When
22:21
Speaker 1: I think about Aidan Hutchinson, we can talk about the
22:24
Speaker 1: production and all the other stuff, but the guy, the
22:26
Speaker 1: player himself, he feels right in with what they talk about,
22:29
Speaker 1: being a blue collar workers, someone that comes to work
22:32
Speaker 1: every day, punches the plot, puts in everything that he
22:35
Speaker 1: can to maximize his talent. I'm banking on that guy
22:38
Speaker 1: over anything else. Um. I think the conversation over Trayvon
22:42
Speaker 1: Walker is real. I think it's interesting, and I think
22:45
Speaker 1: it's interesting based on um the past of not only coaches,
22:49
Speaker 1: but the general manager of Trent Barky, because of the
22:51
Speaker 1: success that he had identified pass Rushes at his previous
22:54
Speaker 1: stop in San Francisco. But I think it's just important
22:58
Speaker 1: that you have a guy in Hudchson, you have like
23:01
Speaker 1: real production that you've seen that you can document. I
23:03
Speaker 1: think in Trade Milwaukee he's a better run defended than
23:06
Speaker 1: past Russia number one. Overall, that guy has to impact
23:11
Speaker 1: the game in a dominant fashion. And so I was
23:13
Speaker 1: just leaning towards Hutchinson over Walking, and I think everybody
23:17
Speaker 1: else is like a complimentary conversation that we have to
23:19
Speaker 1: talk about. But I think it comes down those guys.
23:22
Speaker 1: By the way, our friends at Pro Football Focus just
23:24
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23:28
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. Four podcasts released today, over fifty interviews of
23:33
Speaker 1: people around them at Michigan family members, the whole thing.
23:35
Speaker 1: So check it out. Wherever you've done your yours truly
23:38
Speaker 1: is on there. You're on there too. Not a humble brad,
23:40
Speaker 1: but yours truly made it get a little a little cameo.
23:43
Speaker 1: And that wasn't even that humble. Yeah, I mean that
23:46
Speaker 1: was I mean, that was just a prag humble right,
23:51
Speaker 1: Like if you say humble brag, that's one of those
23:52
Speaker 1: things you can kind of it's almost like saying no
23:54
Speaker 1: disrespect and then you just disrespect whoever you're about to
23:56
Speaker 1: set said. Yeah, hey, by the way, you know, I
24:01
Speaker 1: saw on Twitter. I guess because it's on the internet,
24:05
Speaker 1: it must be true. Um. The idea of smoke screening
24:09
Speaker 1: at number one overall, Oh the Jags are smoke screening?
24:12
Speaker 1: Well is Walker talk and things? And then Hutchinson, Why
24:16
Speaker 1: would the Jaguars need a smoke screen Is that really
24:19
Speaker 1: a thing? At number one overall? Just pick the guy right?
24:22
Speaker 1: Why does it matter? I don't like. I don't know
24:24
Speaker 1: if it's the Jaguars doing it. I think it's more
24:27
Speaker 1: so everyone wants to be right for their mock draft right,
24:30
Speaker 1: So everyone is digging and trying to come up with
24:32
Speaker 1: these connections as to why the Jaguars would take this
24:36
Speaker 1: player over that player, as if they know. I heard,
24:39
Speaker 1: not even related to the Jaguars, but I heard the
24:40
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints made a trade because Doug Marone was
24:43
Speaker 1: the oldline coach at Alabama and they got these two
24:46
Speaker 1: picks and then they can move up to get Evan Neil,
24:48
Speaker 1: who Doug Marone coach at Alabama. I mean, that's that's
24:52
Speaker 1: what you have. During this time of year is lying season.
24:56
Speaker 1: Everyone is lying about whatever. But there's no reason for
25:01
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to misrepresented. In fact, I don't think that that.
25:04
Speaker 1: I think we on the outside, because there's so much time,
25:07
Speaker 1: we get bored. If we got tired of seeing the
25:08
Speaker 1: same names up there, so we threw a different name
25:11
Speaker 1: and had a different conversation. But I don't think the
25:13
Speaker 1: Jaguars have done anything. I think they're doing right by
25:15
Speaker 1: bringing all of these guys in because you just never know,
25:19
Speaker 1: if not this year, you don't know four or five
25:22
Speaker 1: years down the line, when free agency happens, if someone
25:24
Speaker 1: is traded, if someone's cut. You want to have all
25:27
Speaker 1: that background information on them in case you get to
25:30
Speaker 1: do it that you can with you, Bucky, I know
25:32
Speaker 1: you don't know exactly, uh, the timeline on when the
25:37
Speaker 1: Jaguars will decide who they're going to take, but typically
25:43
Speaker 1: take the fan who's never been inside that process. How
25:47
Speaker 1: typically would that work in terms of the process, the meetings,
25:53
Speaker 1: the conversation. Do general managers typically say, Okay, I want
25:57
Speaker 1: to know who I'm taking at a spot or I
25:59
Speaker 1: want to know my three if then scenarios by X
26:04
Speaker 1: date because they have to got I assume you locked
26:07
Speaker 1: that at some point. But what's the normal timeline for
26:11
Speaker 1: things like that as you approach the draft in the
26:12
Speaker 1: final A couple of weeks okay, So as we're taking this,
26:16
Speaker 1: we have two weeks before the draft starts. So what
26:19
Speaker 1: typically happens is, UH, the guys, the scouts should be
26:23
Speaker 1: back in meetings. Didn't want the final part of the board,
26:26
Speaker 1: meaning they're going over. They've done all the pro they workouts,
26:28
Speaker 1: they've done all that other stuff, they got all the
26:31
Speaker 1: measurements and data and information, got all the background stuff
26:34
Speaker 1: in UH. Now security should come in and provide like
26:38
Speaker 1: the the character assessments in reports where you dig into
26:42
Speaker 1: the stuff, so now you have all that other stuff.
26:44
Speaker 1: Those are mamnethly important. Yeah, those those those are huge
26:47
Speaker 1: important because you're trying to make sure there's nothing in
26:49
Speaker 1: the background us going to embarrass the organization, UM and
26:52
Speaker 1: those things. You want to be aware of all the
26:53
Speaker 1: situations that your prospects have been in so you make
26:56
Speaker 1: decisions whether to continue to evaluate them or whether to
26:59
Speaker 1: remove them from the board. The medical team comes in
27:02
Speaker 1: with the final medical analysis. That stuff should be in
27:06
Speaker 1: this week, so you can have that discussion next week.
27:09
Speaker 1: But by the end of next week, all of that
27:11
Speaker 1: stuff should be in. The board should be pretty much
27:14
Speaker 1: firm and concrete when it comes to that, and then
27:17
Speaker 1: it's a matter of just going through draft scenarios. Now,
27:21
Speaker 1: when you're number one overall, you can droll the board,
27:23
Speaker 1: you make the decision, you continue to go back and forth,
27:26
Speaker 1: um uh, Doug Peterson, trip ball, pepill, go back and say, hey,
27:30
Speaker 1: have we missed anything. Hey, let's let's compare these top
27:34
Speaker 1: two guys again or these top three guys. Well what
27:36
Speaker 1: if we did that? Just go through it one more
27:37
Speaker 1: time to make sure you feel good about the decision.
27:40
Speaker 1: And then at some point you got to make decisions.
27:41
Speaker 1: So when we roll into that final week, we should
27:44
Speaker 1: know with about ninety percent certainty, hey this guy is
27:48
Speaker 1: going to be a pick. And then what you're hoping
27:50
Speaker 1: as your scouts of making phone calls and hey, where
27:53
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on draft night and all this other
27:55
Speaker 1: stuff that everybody's okay. That's why they make those phone calls,
27:59
Speaker 1: to make sure everyone is okay. Are you healthy? Are
28:02
Speaker 1: you good? What's your phone number? Your backup number? Because
28:04
Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you before I pick you, because
28:07
Speaker 1: I don't want to uh draft someone who's something that's
28:10
Speaker 1: happened in the last minute. And then you suck with it.
28:12
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the thing, and then you the only thing
28:15
Speaker 1: to pop up the last week before the draft to
28:17
Speaker 1: social media all that stuff you never know, and then
28:20
Speaker 1: at some point someone if you're the GM, it comes
28:23
Speaker 1: down to you, right, Bud. Yeah, Look, in a in
28:28
Speaker 1: a perfect world, you want to make sure that everyone
28:30
Speaker 1: is in lockstep, that you don't have like a tie
28:35
Speaker 1: situation or that you're you're you're hacking over. I like
28:38
Speaker 1: understand it. I like walking this and that. Like you
28:40
Speaker 1: want to find a player that everybody in the room
28:44
Speaker 1: feels good about, and even if you were the dissenting
28:47
Speaker 1: opinion in the room, once the decision is made that
28:50
Speaker 1: he's going to be a Jaguar, everybody's on board with.
28:53
Speaker 1: Everyone has to represent and saying okay, this is I
28:55
Speaker 1: got this is where we're going. You fight a good
28:57
Speaker 1: fight as a scout, But once that decision is made
28:59
Speaker 1: that we're going to take X at the number one
29:02
Speaker 1: over our pick, everybody rather behinds and everyone needs to
29:05
Speaker 1: make sure that the language and everything is positive when
29:07
Speaker 1: we talk about that player going forward. He's a Jaguar,
29:09
Speaker 1: He's not such a suchive guy. Bucky, What's what's been
29:12
Speaker 1: happening lately on pass to the draft and what do
29:15
Speaker 1: you have coming up the rest of this week? Well,
29:18
Speaker 1: you know, we just just continue to kind of do
29:20
Speaker 1: these things, bust up these rumors and try and pick
29:22
Speaker 1: who the guys. I think this is a week what
29:24
Speaker 1: we're doing cluster busters, trying to sort out the segments
29:27
Speaker 1: and look beyond the first round, start looking at the second, third,
29:30
Speaker 1: rum seat what would be like these scenarios And then,
29:34
Speaker 1: you know, getting my little plans together to come to
29:36
Speaker 1: Jacksonville so I can be there with you guys, and
29:38
Speaker 1: I can see all the anxiety and nervousness and all
29:41
Speaker 1: that stuff from you guys up close and personal, and
29:44
Speaker 1: I can just calm everybody down and say, hey, we
29:45
Speaker 1: got this, we got a first bag, we mess it up,
29:48
Speaker 1: we got it. I know Jo likes to get dirt,
29:50
Speaker 1: Bucky Bucky, Bucky young Buck. Yeah. I don't get that
29:55
Speaker 1: nurse for the draft anymore. But it's uh as we closed,
30:00
Speaker 1: give me your guy at thirty three. I mean ask
30:01
Speaker 1: you every week, but give me your guy at thirty
30:03
Speaker 1: three this week. After you've done all your mocks. I
30:06
Speaker 1: know you sit there every day and do a mock
30:07
Speaker 1: draft by yourself on your own little whiteboard. Who's going
30:10
Speaker 1: to be available at that spot? That's the best pay. Now,
30:14
Speaker 1: the thing would be, how do you want to play.
30:16
Speaker 1: I think you could be looking at a scenario where
30:18
Speaker 1: Tyler Lendenbaum is right there at thirty three, and you
30:21
Speaker 1: have to make a determination on whether you want to
30:23
Speaker 1: take a really good football player who has been a
30:25
Speaker 1: good football player for a long time in college, has
30:27
Speaker 1: comes from a great program, but he is uh, he
30:32
Speaker 1: has shorter arms, and he only can play one position,
30:35
Speaker 1: which is center. He plays center like an all pro,
30:38
Speaker 1: but you only can play one position, and so I
30:41
Speaker 1: think he is going to be there for me. Given
30:44
Speaker 1: uh Doug Peterson's experience with Jason Kelsey and how important
30:48
Speaker 1: it was to have a guy that can move and
30:50
Speaker 1: do that stuff, I could see Lendenbaum being a perfect fit.
30:53
Speaker 1: Hard to pass on him if he's there, right yeah,
30:56
Speaker 1: because I think you want to continue to build it up.
30:57
Speaker 1: You want to put the best offensive line together that
31:00
Speaker 1: you can assemble. I don't think he would be a
31:01
Speaker 1: great pieces do you have it? Of course, Bucky is
31:05
Speaker 1: that would be pretty nice. Bucky, As you said, you'll
31:07
Speaker 1: be here for the NFL Draft our coverage on Jaguars
31:10
Speaker 1: dot Com. We'll have a show's leading up to the draft,
31:12
Speaker 1: a draft party on Thursday, a more details to come
31:16
Speaker 1: within the week or so about access for fans to
31:19
Speaker 1: that draft party. Happy Our Radio tomorrow at four o'clock
31:22
Speaker 1: on Tin, TIN, X L A M and Jacksonville and
31:24
Speaker 1: the Jaguars social channels, with offensive coordinator Press Taylor joining
31:28
Speaker 1: us in studio. Get his thoughts on the first few
31:31
Speaker 1: days of meetings with players, including the quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
31:35
Speaker 1: I was on podcast this week, coming up on podcast
31:37
Speaker 1: and it'll need to be Mike McCoy or Travis e TM.
31:40
Speaker 1: We haven't decided wh when we're going to roll out,
31:42
Speaker 1: and before we closed that I do want to say
31:44
Speaker 1: again I say the last couple of weeks, Uh, starting Monday,
31:47
Speaker 1: we're gonna start rolling out Bucky and my draft stories.
31:52
Speaker 1: It's mostly Bucky. He contributes big time and uh, it's
31:56
Speaker 1: not that often that you get that much jag are
32:00
Speaker 1: specific out of a national guy who's tuned in his Bucky.
32:03
Speaker 1: So it's it's worth the read. I've seen the first couple.
32:06
Speaker 1: It's a good job. So people should uh click on
32:09
Speaker 1: that and read it for him and not met Bucky.
32:10
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, I appreciate it being really complimentary. Everything,
32:15
Speaker 1: Like I need to check and see what's in that
32:17
Speaker 1: Cup because I'm gonna make sure that Exlaim, the same
32:20
Speaker 1: beverage is in the cup when we get in the draft.
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