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Bivol Beats Beterbiev Trilogy Next? Full Saudi Card Recap! Smith/Buatsi FOTY? Gervonta Returns! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what up, boxing fans. This is the Rope of
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  Speaker 1: Dove Radio Podcast. I am your host, Chris Carlson. We
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  Speaker 1: are live on a Tuesday evening. I hope everybody's doing okay.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lots to talk about. Obviously, coming off
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  Speaker 1: a major card from Saudi Arabia, Bevo got his return,
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  Speaker 1: he got his revenge, I should say. In the return match,
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  Speaker 1: it was a close fight, very competitive. I do see
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  Speaker 1: some folks saying they do not want to see the
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  Speaker 1: rematch the trilogy. I disagree with that. I disagree wholeheartedly
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  Speaker 1: with that. I definitely think a rematch is more than warranted,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. But everyone has their own ofinion. Oops.
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  Speaker 1: And we will get into all of that not long
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  Speaker 1: from now. We'll talk about, of course the undercard as well.
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  Speaker 1: Ortiz My Druma Caada Yell came up with a big win. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about Calliam Smith looked really good. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was his best uh. I thought it was his
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  Speaker 1: best performance, really, I really did. I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: his best performance as a pro more than likely in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion anyway, And then we'll talk about the Tank
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  Speaker 1: Lamont Roach fight coming up this weekend. There is some
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  Speaker 1: other action as well, Uh the undercard. I'm really looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to a couple of those fights. Vellanzuela Russell and
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  Speaker 1: Play You Martin are definitely some fights I'm looking forward to.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, we'll just be kind of talking
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  Speaker 1: it through. There's a little bit of fight news that
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to, but this will be pretty intensely with
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  Speaker 1: some of the fights turned out even maybe better than
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  Speaker 1: we thought. Some of them not as much, you know.
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  Speaker 1: We we we did have two different fighters, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with some health issues, so you know, that was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a bummer, but not really. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously Becoli coming in there, you know, on short notice.
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  Speaker 1: It sounded great on paper man Becoley, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but obviously it turned out not to be
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  Speaker 1: all that good. No, you know, no shaming Joseph Barker,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure, But I do want to get into
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  Speaker 1: John's gonna come on in just a short little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but I do want to get into the bevol Bevil.
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  Speaker 1: I should say, somebody corrected me. It's been said like
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  Speaker 1: three three different ways. Same with the better bev You know,
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  Speaker 1: when he first came out on the scene, it was
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  Speaker 1: better Beef, then it was Batterbiev, and I've heard other
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  Speaker 1: pronunciations as well. But I really think this fight came
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  Speaker 1: down as funny as it sounds to the first two
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  Speaker 1: rounds as far as how you scored it. Not the
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  Speaker 1: whole fight itself, obviously, but if you gave Bevall the
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  Speaker 1: first two rounds, there's a good chance it was a
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  Speaker 1: draw or you had him win him by one. If
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  Speaker 1: you didn't and it was one to one, then that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna affect the scorecard, obviously. That's something that I did
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  Speaker 1: notice talking to a few people seeing him post their
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  Speaker 1: score cards, and you know that type of thing. I
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  Speaker 1: did give better be of the first round. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he landed the better shots, but it was very close.
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  Speaker 1: I gave Bevall the second round. I liked his jab,
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  Speaker 1: a few nice power punches, and I gave let's see
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  Speaker 1: here it was a two way round in the third round,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought to close the round. I did think
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  Speaker 1: both to the head and body, the heavier shots were
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  Speaker 1: better BF, and from the third round until the sixth
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  Speaker 1: I gave better B of every round. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was starting to really cut off the ring, land the
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: harder punches. In the fifth round he outworked him early
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  Speaker 1: and then late multiple clean shots. It's not that I
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: didn't think Bevall was having any success, because I did
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: think he was having a success. Like in the sixth
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  Speaker 1: round he landed jabs and a few nice combos, but
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  Speaker 1: I think better BF shook him up with a nice
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  Speaker 1: right hand A late combinations kind of stole the round
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  Speaker 1: for me. But that was that was a close round
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  Speaker 1: because you could have you could have liked, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what Beval was doing. You know, he did land combos
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  Speaker 1: a few of them. Then I gave Bevall the seventh.
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  Speaker 1: In the eighth close rounds busier, cleaner, I think lake
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  Speaker 1: down the stretch. There was some clean shots in the
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  Speaker 1: seventh to give Bevo the advantage. The ninth round I
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  Speaker 1: gave to Baball as well. He kind of was doing
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  Speaker 1: a stick and move by that time, and kind of
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  Speaker 1: combination of stick and move, and then he started letting
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  Speaker 1: his hands go more. And that was kind of the
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: big question going into this fight, you know, was he
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  Speaker 1: going to when he needed to let his hands go
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  Speaker 1: more and land more, Because if you are going to
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  Speaker 1: be on the outside, moving in and out and whatnot
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  Speaker 1: laterally all that stuff, trying to stay off the ropes,
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  Speaker 1: try not to be shelled up, you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: land more punches then, and some of them are gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to be of the variety of clean, hard shots,
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  Speaker 1: and that's something that in the first fight he didn't
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  Speaker 1: do as much down the stretch, so you got to
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  Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit here. So like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I could see four to two or five
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  Speaker 1: to one through sixth for better bv and then seventh, eighth,
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  Speaker 1: and ninth I gave the befall I gave the tenth
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  Speaker 1: to better Beev. It was a very very close round.
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  Speaker 1: Both fighters had their moments. I just I thought better
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  Speaker 1: Beev finally got his jab going, but once again the
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  Speaker 1: lands to the body and head that did it for me.
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  Speaker 1: Now Beval in a very another very close round, I
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  Speaker 1: gave him the eleventh. He just landed like the harder shot,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's what took the round. You could
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  Speaker 1: say better Be. It was more consistent that round, like
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  Speaker 1: for the full round. But I thought the harder shots
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  Speaker 1: were befall. And then same with the twelfth to me,
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  Speaker 1: a late flurry, a big right hand. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: not this. I shouldn't say the same because I gave
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  Speaker 1: it to Uh better Be of the twelfth round. So
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  Speaker 1: whether it was six six, six' five one or seven,
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  Speaker 1: FIVE i did give it either six six or a
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  Speaker 1: slight edge to BETTER. Bf as we, know we had
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  Speaker 1: one one fourteen one, twelve one fifteen one or one
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  Speaker 1: fourteen one, FOURTEEN i should say one, sixteen one, twelve
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  Speaker 1: WHICH i didn't, see eight to four for either guy
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  Speaker 1: uh and then one fifteen one, thirteen and we'll dig
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  Speaker 1: into some of the you, know other these fights and.
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  Speaker 1: WHATNOT i do want to send a message To john.
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  Speaker 1: HERE i just had to make SURE i was up
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  Speaker 1: and ready. Here it was a close, fight and LIKE i,
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  Speaker 1: Said i'm starting to see a lot of people like
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: these were two very good, fights, right and it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of the cat and mouse and who's going to
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  Speaker 1: be more effective with their game? Plan AND i appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: That and when you think of. Trilogies you, KNOW i don't,
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  Speaker 1: know you, KNOW i think sometimes when when you think of,
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: that it's like you think it just Gotty ward and
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  Speaker 1: just you, know marcuz. Basket like you, know it's not
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  Speaker 1: always that and and, honestly not every trilogy all the
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  Speaker 1: fights are, good you, Know usually it's the first one
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  Speaker 1: and then it's kind of trying to catch up to that.
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  Speaker 1: One SO i. DID i did think that it was close.
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  Speaker 1: ENOUGH i thought the first one that both had fought
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  Speaker 1: in a tight enough. FIGHT i. DID i did favor
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  Speaker 1: better Be evan that, one, though as far as him
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  Speaker 1: win in the fight because of those last handful of.
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  Speaker 1: Rounds and you, KNOW i think they should do it.
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  Speaker 1: AGAIN i, mean you're one in, one AND I i
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: think it could go either way in this. One the second,
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  Speaker 1: one WHEREAS i know many people did Think i'm not
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: gonna say the, majority but some a fair amount of
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  Speaker 1: people did think be vaulted enough to win the first.
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  Speaker 1: One and that's that's you, know everyone's has an, opinion
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  Speaker 1: right seven five, seven five six. SIX i just think
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  Speaker 1: down the stretch he didn't do enough to win the. Fight,
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  Speaker 1: personally this one was a little. Different he started out pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Good then when for a stretch where it was like,
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  Speaker 1: man and they were even talking about on the broadcast like,
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  Speaker 1: wow like he's really doing better much earlier in this.
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  Speaker 1: Fight and so you know by the seventh, round LIKE i,
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  Speaker 1: SAID i gave you, know the, third, fourth, fifth and
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  Speaker 1: sixth to better be of so to me for him
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  Speaker 1: to come back and win the, seventh, eighth and ninth
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  Speaker 1: in the. Eleventh some people gave him the. TWELFTH i.
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  Speaker 1: DIDN'T i did think he made some like A i
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't say, major BUT i thought he did make some
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: improvements in this, Fight like he did let his hands go,
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  Speaker 1: more he did land cleaner shots compared to what he
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  Speaker 1: had in the first. One so it was a close,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: fight AND i do get the sentiment of, man they're
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. Again and to be, honest with the
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: trilogies don't usually go one after, another, right all three
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: in a. Row they usually they usually don't do. That
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: we saw with The Wild fury that was back to
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: back two and. Three there was a large gap because
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: OF covid and then you know the, lawsuit but there
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: was fights between the first. ONE i think both of
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: them had two fights in that time and then they
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: fought the second, one so you, KNOW i just think
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: IT'S i, know life isn't fair and boxing isn't fair
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: and all, that BUT i do think that having a
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: third one in this sense is own any, right you.
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  Speaker 1: Know and it's not like they've been boring fights and you,
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: know LIKE i, said they haven't been crazy, brawls BUT
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  Speaker 1: i don't expect, that you, know in this. Fight SO
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: i am in favor of doing a, trilogy as much
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  Speaker 1: As i'd like to See benevetez you, know get a
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: shot at the. WINNER i did think better Bee of
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  Speaker 1: was gonna, win and LIKE i, said IF i had
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  Speaker 1: to choose someone that won this, FIGHT i would lean
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  Speaker 1: better Be of, six, five, one seventy, five. Whatever But
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  Speaker 1: i'm okay with you, know Bev all winning this time
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  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think he did make an. Improvement Now i'm
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: not saying it was light years in, that you. Know
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  Speaker 1: once again teen won twelve like you, know like he won,
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  Speaker 1: eight eight or nine rounds or something like. THAT i
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: still had it about a, draw and LIKE i, said
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  Speaker 1: IF i had to pick a, winner it would have been.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: That but that didn't go down like. That SO i
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: think it's only fair if if befoll got a, rematch
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: then you know Better beev gets. One, ACTUALLY i just
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Saw john in the fold, here so let's bring him,
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  Speaker 1: in all, Right we're gonna go ahead and bring In.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Sean but, yeah overall it was another competitive, fight and
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: LIKE i, SAID i think he did make some. Improvements,
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  Speaker 1: hey what's.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Going, On?
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  Speaker 1: John how you, Doing?
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Chris how's it? Going not?
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Bad not bad at. All i'm thinking about summer with the.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Background, here you, know, yeah, yeah Well i'm In West
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: virginia right. Now the weather finally started warming up a
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Bit sunday afterno and a well blow average cold all
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: winter as we've talked about, already but warmed, up warmed
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: up all the warm one day and got way into
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: the sixties. Today so.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, yeah the last couple of days we didn't have
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: much snow like we've been talking, too but that. Melted
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: the last couple of days it. Was it was really.
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  Speaker 1: NICE i think it hit like fifty four yesterday or
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: something like, that so, yeah so, Similar, yeah, yeah it's really.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Nice and in the FORECAST i think there's like one
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: like twenty degree, day but, man the two week FORECAST
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: i see some high fifties. Again and so, Yeah i'm
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: excited now that now that the negative stuff has, done
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  Speaker 1: the negative fifteen or, anything that's that's that's that's long gone.
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  Speaker 1: Now So I'm i'm in a good. Mood.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah we earned it this, Year yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Exactly and uh, so, yeah obviously we're going to talk
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: about a lot of the. Fights we did have two
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  Speaker 1: fighters pull out due to. Sickness but you, know in the,
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  Speaker 1: end you, know it is what it, is, LIKE i don't,
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  Speaker 1: know you know that it. Sucks The dubois you, know
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  Speaker 1: The dubois one is the one that really. Hurt, yeah you,
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  Speaker 1: know because that was the one where you really wanted
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  Speaker 1: to see the. Outcome and although on, paper But kali
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  Speaker 1: seemed like a great replacement because you, Know, butkoli, dude
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  Speaker 1: like this is, okay that's a pretty good. Replacement but you,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: know obviously he had just started his camp and even
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: if he isn't in tip top, shape which obviously it
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't just to have to fly that distance in that
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: short time turn around and be, like hey go. FIGHT
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: i don't, know what do you think of the replacement in,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: general because LIKE i, said on the, surface it was like,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: OKAY i mean, sure why not for a. Replacement i'm
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: not going to complain too, much but it would have
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: been nice to have somebody on the card that was
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: already in, camp had a full camp and all. That
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: but you, know beggars can't be. Choosy i'm not gonna
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: go too crazy with, it you.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Know, Now but it was kind of funny BECAUSE i
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: had went sort of the same sequence in this. CASE
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: i would say everybody, did and yes it is with some,
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  Speaker 3: hindsight but it really didn't make any. Sense and What
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: i'm saying everybody, is you know the odds, MAKERS i Mean.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Parker you, know, Well i'm going to get into that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Sum we can start with that. FIGHT i THINK i
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: think people need to pump the brakes On. Parker i've
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: said it. Before i'm going to say it again even
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: after this, weekend And i'm maybe somewhat, controversial But i'll
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: stay with it BECAUSE i feel confident in the. Opinion
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: but you, know Remember parker was a Minus dubis was
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: a minus three hundred favored Over parker before they even wade,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: in and sure the money was going On dubois. Too
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: it was he was becoming a bigger, face so you
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: had that. FACTOR i Mean parker's already an, underdog and
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: then you, know But, koli you figure he's at least
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: big and he can. Punch all my years of fallen,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: boxing when people talked about it being, unusual.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: They were correct to raise that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Point, YEAH i, mean nobody's nobody's ever been successful on
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: two days. NOTICE i don't think anybody can come up
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: with an example in boxing. HISTORY i Saw raphael was
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: bringing up the but but it. Wasn't it's not comparable. Though,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: really you, know he was bringing up The Vitali klitchko
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Given Lennox lewis a tough fight with ten you, know
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  Speaker 3: he was substated with ten days, notice and you, know.
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  Speaker 1: Another Guy. Ugas but then again one he was on
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  Speaker 1: the card to it wasn't last, second you know.
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  Speaker 3: That's right to you, Guys but he was on the.
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  Speaker 3: Card he was training on that exact same, schedule so to, me,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: yeah changing who he was, Fighting but in terms of,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: preparation that's not comparable at, all because word Was bacoley
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: really hadn't done anything yet and he showed. That, now
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: you know what surprised me, that you know what got
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: me kind of, Excited like just first it Was. BECOLI
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  Speaker 3: i did the same thing everybody else, there and you're
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: thinking there is some logic to. This you're thinking it's, heavyweights,
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  Speaker 3: right big. Yeah and Then i'm immediately checking the odds
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i always look at that and always will is you,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: know that's the independent, view that's the also represents the
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: synthesis of everybody's, opinion, right whether you're just just everybody.
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  Speaker 4: To make it like kind of the.
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  Speaker 3: Opinion SO i see, that And parker's only a minus
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  Speaker 3: one seventy five. Favorite So i'm, thinking, well you, know
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  Speaker 3: maybe this is a Situation beacoli can land a. Bomb
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and THEN i got extra, excited and this is the
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: first Thing i'm gonna say about pumping the brakes On
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  Speaker 3: parker is Then parker weighs in at two sixty.
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  Speaker 4: Seven you're high by, far.
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  Speaker 3: Yea his career high was when he got blasted around
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  Speaker 3: the ring.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: By joyce and taking.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: It So.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I'm Not i'm not buying. That i'm not buying This
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Joe parker amazing progression and all. THAT i don't think
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: HE i saw what happened With pecoli like everybody. Else
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: pecoli was on two. Days, Notice i'm not buying this
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Whole parker. THING i don't think he. WAS i don't
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Think parker was, ready but he didn't end up having
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to fight Du. Blis so you, know that's SOMETHING i
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: got to look at again in the. FUTURE i, mean you,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: know to sixty, seven and you, know they and people
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: were also getting into This Andy lee great training job and.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: All i'm not buying that, Either. FRANKLY i, Mean i'm,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: not you, know just trying to unnecessarily Knock Andy, lee
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: But i'm. Not you're listening him in the corner in previous.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Fights his only real instruction to him is box And
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: parker is a mediocre. Boxer he's a guy that's kind
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: of okay at, everything you, know at a, higher you,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: know a top, legit top ten type. Level What i've
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: said About Joe parker a long time, AGO i think
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: is holding. True came up relatively, young does everything okay
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: except for The joys, fight hasn't taken any real bad.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Beatings it did take some shots Against, white but you
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: know it's not something that he's. Getting he taken a
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: beating in every. Fight there's yeah. Fights he's cautious guy
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: that would hang around in the top ten like, forever
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: but not really get to the. Top and now after this,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: fight you see people, Screaming, Oh parker is the number
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: one threat To. Ushik you know he he needs to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: get the shot. Now and you, KNOW i, Mean i'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: still gonna say WHAT i said before the.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: FIGHT i Mean wilder had.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Nothing we can look at it and Say wilder had
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: nothing left when he fought. Him you, know we saw
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: what happened To zag Against, kabael and you know we've
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Seen zang gas. Out Now zang presents a. Danger we
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: also saw what he Did, joyce what he did to
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: a Shot.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Wilder BUT.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I just think With, parker he's still going to have
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: to do it against an opponent that's got more left
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: in the, tank that's properly. Prepared parker's going to have
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: to prove he can be properly. PREPARED i think he
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: got away with one with that to sixty. Seven And
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: i'm not saying the shot that he Took pecolie out
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: wasn't powerful because it's, heavyweights but it wasn't a great looking.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Shot it was on the top of the. Head he went.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Down they stopped. It, Look parker did what he had to.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: DO i always give him and anybody else credit for
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the situation they're in like. That i'm not gonna give
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: him credit for being a two sixty. SEVEN i don't
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: think he was properly, right and he got away with
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: one because of the. Situation but just when he got
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: in the, ring you, Know, okay he got the guy
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: out of there two. Rounds that's what he's you, know
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: that's all he can do at that. Point but people
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: reading way way too, much way too much into. It
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: it's it's like people get excited wanting to draw conclusions
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: instead of being patient about what the situation. WAS i,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Mean bacoley waited in a three, ten so you, know
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: WHEN i, excited he looked every bit of it and
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: he waited. Later so WHEN i got excited a little
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: bit myself trying to feel, like oh we got to
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: fight salvage. Here this Is Turkey alachic at least is
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: bringing a good. Opponent you. Know then then you're trying
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: to close your eyes To pecoli weighed in at three.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Ten in other, words the confirmation he's not. Ready he's
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: on two days uh two days, notice and like you,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: said you, know anybody knows anything about sport. Preparation he's
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: flying all that he's flying ALL i he's not that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: that would take away from your performance if you were
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: in shape's, exactly you, know running a, marathon if you
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: didn't sleep the night the night, before days before that
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: or something like, that you're not going to perform as. Well,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: yeah and you know you.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Could apply that to a lot of. Things so that, was,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: yeah too.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: BAD i got excited, about you, know Because bocoli a
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: legit top ten. Guy that's the PART i was excited.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: About and a heavyweight you could get more excited than
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: the lower weights because you figure the guy could maybe
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: just land a. Bomb but and THEN i got excited with,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Well parker's not in. Shape you, know that was something
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: that came kind of came out of. Nowhere he's at sixty.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Seven he's supposed to be preparing for one of the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: biggest fights of his career and he's at to sixty, seven,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: right you, Know AND i wasn't you know then they
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: always tried to he's they did throw something like that
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: into the.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Broadcast, well they had a strategy.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: With his, size get the hell out of, HERE i,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: mean get the hell out of the strategy was not
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: For Joe parker to come in at to sixty seven
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: because he's fighting. BAH i, Mean i'm not buying.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: That how'd that work for him Against?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Joyce, yeah that's the. Thing it's like he had to you,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: KNOW i can already kind of see people doing that
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: where they, say, oh you, know he was trying to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: beef up at it put an extra weight of that big.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Punch it's, like, well why any weigh That he should
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: have weighed heavier Against wilder, then because that's the only
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: thing was a big ass, punch, right he obviously couldn't
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: do in the, Ring but he didn't know that until
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: he got in the ring with, him you, know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Right and his weights Against zang And wilder were weights
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: where he's in, shape, Right SO i mean those were
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: big wins for. Him i'm not saying they weren't big.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Wins i'm just SAYING i think we got to look
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: at the ages of those, guys you, Be but looking
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: at his weights in his, career he was in shape
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: for those.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Fights two forty five For, wilder there you, go two forty,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: five and in two forty, seven right For.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Zang RIGHT'S i checked that before.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: It that's twenty that's twenty pounds.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: That he's so there was no reason, why why would
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: why would you be at that weight Against sang and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: then go up to two sixty seven to fight Du,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: bois who's a. Puncher it doesn't it doesn't make any.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Sense and it was two fifty five Against, Joyce so
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: even twelve pounds bigger than are are.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Arguably one of the worst performances of his, career if
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: not the, worst because he was looking, Gassed joyce was
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: banging on. Him joyce stopped. Him it was first time
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: he got. Stopped you, know why would you then go
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: go he's twelve now he's twelve pounds north of that
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: for what was supposed to be Du. BOIS i, mean
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: that's that's almost like the dude was just going to grab,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: them you.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah or like, yeah could he not do like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: conditioning or something like. That he kind of injury because
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that's the only excuse that would work otherwise there is no,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: reason you, know at.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: ALL i Think Joe parker was in good shape For
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: wilder And zang got the job. Done you, know obviously
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: both of those guys can. Hit BUT i THINK i,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: think you, know you look at the ages of those,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: guys and he got stopped By joyce who was in
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: advanced age because he turned pro so late And joyce
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: hasn't looked any good.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: SINCE i Think.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Parker's got you, KNOW i think some things have just
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: fallen In parker's. Favor and you, know of course it
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: depends who he, fights you, know and, sure BUT i
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Think dublac could potentially be a bad matchup for him Because,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: duboise you, know really at a prime. Age you, know
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: he's taking some. Punishment that's AN x. Factor BUT i
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Think parker got the job.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Done But i'm that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: One my conclusion IS i think way way too too
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: much of a lot of people getting too excited About
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: parker after.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: That, yeah and it's just it's just one of those
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: scenarios that just sucks, that you, know Du bloc couldn't,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: fight but like you, said you can't you can't act
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: like they did, fight you know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Exactly that's WHAT i think people are kind of. Doing
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: and Then.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Usig it's funny because WHEN usa got, there he was, like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah i'm gonna Fight zaba, next, like you, know he
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: was already saying like, yeah you, know SO i don't,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: know it's just.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And there is a bit of a cell to that
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: fight because of the way their first fight played out
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: with that body, out which could have been called. Clean
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: you AND i both agreed on. That so there is you,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: know even though it was, recent there there is somewhat
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: of a storyline, there AND i Think usik understands. That so,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: yeah and so to, me there's even some even though
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: this fight fell out, unfortunately there is some logic to
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: that fight The usk Du boih because of the way their
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: first fight. Was you, Know usik's the, champ uh clearly
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: the champ now AND i don't care about you, know
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: it was alphabet, belts but you, know so that part
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: of the cell doesn't matter to. Me but for those
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: people that care about that stuff, that you, know the alphabet,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: stuff they can sell them on. That BUT i, mean you,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: know it makes it makes some sense Because usik's at
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: an advanced. Age you, know he can't just like any
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: fighter as good as he's been, doing you, know it
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: can't go.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Forever so you always get that mystery.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, yeah it's it's kind of. Interesting and you,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: know it's funny because WHEN i saw that weight AND
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: i WAS i was finishing up my prediction article for
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the main, event AND i just kind of under the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: under THAT i kind of just did my picks for
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the rest of. THEM i didn't break down each one
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and that type of, thing AND i just, said let's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: just throw Him bacoli by a really, knockout just for
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the fun of, it you. Know so, YEAH i was
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: kinda and this is before he was even there, yet you,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: know WHEN i finished my, article you, know so, uh but,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: yeah it was one of those things where were, like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that's a great, name but in the, end it just
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't it really doesn't line. Up and you, know now
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: he's gonna still have that, fight hopefully he's cleared and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: everything like that to be able to have that Fight
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: may with the you KNOW. Fa SO i don't, know
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's kind.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Of REMIND i, KNOW I i, mean he's gonna have that,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: apparently but you, know he wouldn't be cleared in THE, us,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: RIGHT i, mean so that's. TROUBLING i GOT i have
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: doubts if that's gonna. HAPPEN i, mean, yeah she, said,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: oh we'll bring him back for the, job but In
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: may in boxing twenty twenty, five after just getting stopped
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: in the second, ROUND I i Don't i'm not sure
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: that's gonna. Happen WHAT i would like to see Since,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: turkey how is she is putting things like this? Together
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: and it would be. Perfect really the guy is there
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: that that would prove? It If dua is gonna Fight,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: USIK i, mean put park Put parker in With. Cabiel
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: let's let's see which one of these two guys really
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: deserves to be the next in, line and whoever comes
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: out of that one will be somebody that everybody would
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: get excited about to Fight, Usik who or whoever the
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: real champ is going to, be you, know at that,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: time If usik goes on Beating dubois or if du
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: wopples an upset or, SOMETHING i, mean that's that that
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: would be a fight that, people you, know would be interested.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: In and The Parker cabiel is a good. MATCHUP i,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: mean if If parker can Beat, Cabell i'll give him.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Props you, Know cabiel's obviously at his prime right, now
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: and he's on a tremendous street with with just destroying
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: people to the.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Body you.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Know SO i was gonna, say keeps getting, better it seems.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah it does seem like he's got he keeps getting.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Better, yeah and let's might as little sensor right. There,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah zan came OUT i thought had a pretty good opening.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Round but, yeah beyond that fifth round where he caught
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: him with the left hand and the exchange on the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: ear knocked him, down it did seem like after that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: it was pretty much arm. Punches he looked pretty gassed after,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that and you, Know kabiella had gotten up and started
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: throwing back as. Well otherwise he was winning that. Round
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: but even through so after that round it was one
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: forty to seventy one for punches. Landed and like you,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: said that body, ATTACK i thought at some Point john
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: he would be able to push him, back BUT i
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: didn't think that would be the game plan from the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: from the jump and that was really, impressive and he
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: he hung around in front of, him but not too,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: long but he was letting his hands, go going to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the body and then landing pretty big. Upstairs but like you,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: said that bodywork is was really he was kind of
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: mixing up. Too like at the start he was just
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: landing pretty solid. Shots then he would kind of shoeshine
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a little. Bit other times he would land really big
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: shots where you could see it was Affecting zang and,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: yeah just another another solid performance By. Kaby oh what'd
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: you think of that?
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: FIGHT i Think, cabby you, know even though all his
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: guys weren't ranked as highly at the, time MAYBE i you,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: KNOW i just think this cab and you, know Mag madoff,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: wasn't but he was you look at as a top
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: up and coming guy who had amateur. Pedigree you, know to,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: me like what Cab l's done three straight basically body
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: shot KOs, over you, know Mac, Madoff Frank sanchez And,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: zang that that's catching my eye more than What parker's,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: done because you know his fights We zang And wilder
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: went the, distance, right and he got dropped twice Against. Sang,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Now cabiell got dropped once, too but he got up
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: and took him got up and took him. Out and
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: you know WHAT i for that, FIGHT i agree with.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: You you know what really surprised me about the fight,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: too is it did look to, me you, know In
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: zang having a good first, round it looked to me
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Like cabiell was bothered by the. Power you, KNOW i was,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: thinking Maybe zang is going to pull the upset, here
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: but Then cabiel just seemed to find his groove and
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: prove that he was not intimidated or bothered by the.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Power got, dropped but got right back, up got to
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: what he was, doing and THEN i, thought what was really.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Devastating of course he stopped, Him he's the first to do,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: that but even the way he did, IT i, thought
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: What cabell did Against zang that nobody else, did that
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: was really impressive to. Me Is zang had that gass
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: look like he's about to, go but that he's had
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: against many, people including somebody Like Jerry. Forrest but when
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: he had to look this time And cabell just came
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: right out of him and started whipping those body, shots
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't let him breathe, literally and the
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: combination Of zang looking for a, rest, yeah act That
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: cabil put on. Him he. Wasn't he was. DONE i,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: mean that's. It even though it was in the even
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: the first, half it wasn't even the second half of the.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Fight didn't make.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: It and that was impressive, that you, know because we've
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Seen zang like that, before and we've seen people not finish.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Him you, know they didn't have the ability to get
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: in there and finish him And it's happened multiple. Times
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: you saw him like that against Her. Hergo you saw
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: him like that even you, know Against Jerry. Forrest but you,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Know cabell was able to keep the pressure on and
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: then not let him breathe when he got like that
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: and just finish him. Off you, know he was even Against,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: joe you could see he would he would like explode
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: and then he was looking to. Rest you, know he
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: was real careful with. That and you know when when
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: he got gassed in this, One cabell just didn't let him,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: breathe and, uh, real, real real Impressive. Ko and you,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: know At zang's, age he's an interesting. Character let's face,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: it all his fights end up being fun to watch
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: because crazy, things crazy things basically happening. There but everything
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: comes to an. End you have to look at the.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Ages that's gonna be another one of the Things i'm
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: gonna be talking about, tonight BECAUSE i think people forget
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: about that too when they want to just draw conclusions
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and not look at that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Part but you have, to, like you, Know.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Zag's probably, THIS i mean it's, OVER i mean it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: really it's it's you, know he's still top ten, technically
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: but even though he Knocked cabrill. Down cabrill is. TOUGH
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: i just you, know the age is too. Advanced he
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't have, that and he doesn't have the. Stamina now
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: he suffered A ko and he has taken shots in
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of his fights. Too you, KNOW i JUST
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: i don't see you, know that's. It it. Was it
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: was a, fun, fun little fun little ride. There BUT
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: i think for practical, purposes that's.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: It, Yeah i'd have to agree with you, because like you,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: said he's taking, punishment And, mike he's not gonna all
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: of a sudden come like in great shape and righty,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: MAN i can go twelve rounds no, problem because he
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: would already done.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: That you know by now he's too. Old but you
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: know he's not he's not going to get into better.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: CONDITION i, mean he can be in good shape for his. Forties,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: yeah but he would have to fight at a slower.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Pace and you know he's not going to re really
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: in better condition than he was a few years.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Ago and now he's taking more.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Punishment uh, now Cabbyl but you know boxers are smart like.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: That you know they can watch the they can watch the.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Video you, know the next time he gets people are
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: going to think about What cabl did to him and
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: start whipping body shots and you, know, yeah it's gonna
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: be hard to cover for that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Vulnerable So i'm not saying he won't be.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Back you might be back In Saudi arabia As TURKEY
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: AlSi keeps putting these heavyweights, together BUT i think he's
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: not going to be a.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Factor, sure, yeah and he. DID i think it was
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a three fight, deal so that might have done it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Anyway but you're, right even in that last, round he
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: was almost. Slumped oh you, know he almost.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: He was doing that before he got.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Taken, yeah and the ref was like anticipating and it
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: looked like he was stopping the fight like it was you,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: know they're not stopping, it but you, know gonna start to.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Count and then it was, like, wait what just? Happened
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: you cleared a? Fighter did you think it was a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: low blow or you, know it was a really weird little.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Scenario and it was like he didn't touch his, glove
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: he didn't take a. Knee it looked like he was going,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: to but he actually. Didn't and like you, said it
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: helped him buy some, time but not much after that
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: he was ready to go And kaviel took him. Out
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and he's got good, hands, speed got good, power got good.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Smarts he can box a little bit, too and he kens.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Aggressive he's aggressive when it's time to be aggressive.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Too he got he got really. Aggressive but in his
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: earlier in his career coming, UP I i'm trying to
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: think of WHY i was even watching NOW i think.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: WHY i think it was pandemic and just watching. Anything,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: yeah he, was he was on some cards From, germany
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: and yeah when when, winning you, know he was he
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: boxed relatively. Cautiously, yeah that's usually what it. Was, yeah
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i think he Beat chasura like. That
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: but now you, know in this in his, run he's
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: been really aggressive and it's been really, effective and he's getting.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: KNOCKOUTS i, mean three straight big knockouts being aggressive and
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: with vicious body. Shots it's it's it's really he's really
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: on an impressive.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Run, yeah BECAUSE i, mean, yeah the the INTENSE i don't,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: know maybe it was That sanchez, fight where as the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: fight went on he started to be more. Aggressively sanchiz
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: is going to try to box because that's what he.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Does but, yeah ever since, then, man he really showed
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a different gear and LIKE i, said That zaying is
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: a big guy with. POWER i really thought he boxed
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: for a, while you, know and just kind of feel
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: it out and then. Press but when he pushed him
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: back right, AWAY i was, Like, oh, Wow keV hell's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: coming for, it, Okay like this is gonna be a fun.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Fight and so, yeah he's he's really he's right. There
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and LIKE i, SAID i like that The parker KaiA.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Yell that lines up for. ME i, know people hall are, like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: oh that's not fair For, parker but it's, like you,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know. That you, know it's, sucks you,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: know but if he would have got beat then what
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: what he been? Saying you? Know so either, way you, KNOW.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I don't, know you, know the, way as long as
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: the saudy things, CONTINUING i, figure you, know he's going
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: to get well paid for, it so, exactly you, KNOW
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: i THINK i think that's a good. Throwback just keep
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: having the heavyweight contenders fight each.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Other, yeah, yeah. Exactly all, right so let's move on to,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: well we might as well get out of the way
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: we talked About. Parker stevenson had a you, know a
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: guy that came in off the job site, basically, uh you,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: know he gave a good account for, himself considering he
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: got there, later you, know late in the fight and.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Whatnot it looked Like stevenson was coming with the jab
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: right away and throwing it pretty, assertive and then he
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: just kind of did his, thing you know what he.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Does and he's stayed in the pocket a lot in this,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: fight just BECAUSE i don't think he thought a lot
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: was coming at. Him but it was just one of
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: those kind of ho, hum, okay you got this, done
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you got that guy, Out AND i don't, know it
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: was just kind of, like all, right we'll get we'll
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: see in the next. Fight but here again he hurt
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: his damn. Hand, Yeah so is he gonna be out
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: now for a. WHILE i. DON'T i don't really, know you,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: know like maybe it's just a minor. Injury like a
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: lot of guys hurt their, hands so hopefully it's just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a minor. One and some guys making a show while
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the fight's going on and they really want to show
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you my hand hurts and all. That other guys you
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even. Know SO i, DON'T i don't know how serious,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that's you, know that's gonna delay. Him but considering the,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: assignment he did get it done Against Josh. Padley, Yeah padley.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: On really short rest as. Well not quite as bad As,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: bikoli but almost as. Bad he. Did consider how Good stevenson,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Is padly Did. Okay the problem with, him even as
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: not only as a, substitute is he's got no, power
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: so you, know he's he's not even a threat to
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: land a, threat a lucky shot so to. Speak that
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: takes away from. Suspense BUT i do like that at
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: least he was Throwing owen punches where you know he's
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: not in, there just Saying i'm going to be in
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: here And i'm not doing anything to try to. Win,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: yeah SO i.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Like that about.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Him. STEVENSON i thought there was a positive to take
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: because he has done it against better.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Opponents but he doesn't always do.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It but it's not that you can say he's never
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: done it against anybody. Good when he when he commits
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: to the, body he does seem to have some power
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: to the. Body reminds me totally different fighting, styles but
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: reminds me of what do we say about you, Know
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Gilberto Zerdo. Ramirez the rare case of a guy who
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: touches better than the body than the. HEAD i Mean,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: stevens you, know he lands to the, head but but
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: they're kind of like not much force on the. Shots
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: but but seen it in his other fights, too you
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: know when he commits to the, body even against fighters
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: that are, good he hurts people to the. Body SO
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: i did like that he basically ended it that. Way
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: that really led to the end here because even though
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: It's Josh, padley that's one thing When i've seen him
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: use it against better, opposition it is also effective for,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: him and so you, know if there's one way he
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: can maybe get some more, stoppages it really looks like
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: to the. Body because even With, padley then when he
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: was going, upstairs he was landing but it really wasn't hurting.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Him but when he went back down to the, body
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: you could see he was legitimately hurting. Him and you
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: know that that led to the end of the fight for.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Him i'd really like to see more of that from
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: him Because i've seen him do it against some good
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: opposition and hurt, him but he just.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Doesn't he just doesn't always do.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: It so If i'm going to take one thing out
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: of that for of, Course stevenson late lat, replacement but,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: man you know he can do that against better. Opposition
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: adds to the entertainment, value makes him more effective, too
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: because then he's hurting. People, yeah you, know everything else
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: was his usual. Self would would like to see him
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: stay with that body attack against the better, Opposition but
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the fight was also just important in terms of things
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: being marketed in boxing to. Us sensibilities for all kinds
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: of reasons are just like diminishing by the, day by the.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Month so on this, card us, sensibilities all you had
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Was stevenson And Virgil. Ortiz you, KNOW i MEAN i
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: watched the. CARD i enjoyed, it but but it's not
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: that they were even hyping that that big on the,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: card but that you still did have that at least
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: it was on. It but that was all that was
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: all you, had, Right.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it'll be interesting to see if because you,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: know the next fight is supposed to Be zapada as
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: long as he gets, by you, know the rematch, fight
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: WHICH i do think he'll do better in the. REMATCH
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: i think he overlooked the, opponent BUT i don't. Know, hopefully,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully they'll get something going in The you, know
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: cause it's it's kind of right around the corner Zip zippata's,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: fight so it's not that far. Away so, HOPEFULLY i don't,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: know maybe in the summer or something like, that late
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: summer or something like, that they could, fight because that's the. Plan,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: supposedly the plan is that poted. Next but that was
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: supposed to be the plan, originally you, Know and that's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: what was kind of frustrating about this. Thing it's like we,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: thought you, know he never really let whatever was going
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: to play out play. Out he kind of just signed
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a two fight deal and that's, cool you, know get
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: your money and If zeypota is a good fight for,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: him but it didn't, happen you, know so it's, like, oh,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: okay so why we put in the week Deadline if
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you're going to try, to you, know get a fight With,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Javonte the thing's not going to be negotiating in a,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: week you know WHAT i, mean you don't really put
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: deadlines on that. Stuff but that's where he wants to
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: aim at some point. Here but the goal he said
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: was A PoTA if he gets by it and then.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Tank but, yeah it'd be nice for him to get
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a solid win at lightweight and kind of line himself
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: up for That tank. Fight as we. Know you, KNOW
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: i still think that would it'd be a really good
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: b side For. Tank. Really you, Know i'm not saying
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it's gonna do what him And garcia, did but at
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: least the core has been ON espn for quite some.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Time, Yeah i'm starting to, think you, know just hearing
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: you talk about it and then thinking about it. MYSELF
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: i didn't mention this. BEFORE i wanted to mention it
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i did see it when he was in the
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: locker Room, saturday and you, know it's so scarce in
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: boxing in twenty twenty, five especially in THE, us it
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: is worth. MENTIONING i, mean you, know you See stevenson
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: On rebox commercials now he had The rebox stuff on
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: the locker. Room. Now rebox kind of like just still
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: stayed around as like a bargain brand, now but you,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: know big worldwide brand over, decades they're still out there
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: marketing and they're still in you, Know, walmart every every
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: big story right still AN i just, saying, like you,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: know so whatever exposure he got ON, espn you, know
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: and he was on The, olympics it led to. THAT
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: i mean for where boxing is, today and you look
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: at What stevenson's numbers were compared to the other guys
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: ON espn, recently you think a Tank davis has been
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: pay per view exclusively for a, while did well in
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: The Ryan garcia. MATCHUP i don't, know like you, know
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: maybe it is a it is an extremely intriguing style. Matchup,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: yeah so that Helps stevenson there where you, know then
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: that's what helps a guy like That sometimes if you
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: get the right style, matchup then you're not worried about
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: him necessarily stinking it out because there's a guy that
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: can bring enough heat to. Him there's some suspense, there you,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: know could he get, caught you, know and.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: And and that would be likely a fight That. JERVAN
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: i Think germonte has even said that that is a
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: fight THAT i go to him instead of being patient.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Fighters so to your, point, Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Steve, stevenson some some guys are just like. That it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: IT'S i, MEAN i could see a little bit, why
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: but it's just it's been so hard for. Boxers And
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: i'm not saying he's like a HUGE us star or
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: anything like. That but on the other, HAND i don't,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: know he seems he seems to kind of tract, ATTENTION
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: i mean without even that's JUST i, mean not that
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: he doesn't say stuff like other box and, everything but
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: but it's not like he's going totally totally over the
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: top and he seems to you.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: Know Fma lopez over the time, exactly you know exactly
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: WHAT i, meant right like he.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Does he's not doing that to get. Attention and it's
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: JUST i don't, know like there's something there's something kind of.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: LIKABLE i guess when you when you hear the guy.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: TALK i don't know what it, is but like you,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: know even when he says stuff, LIKE i don't, know
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: you kind of like listening to the. GUY i guess
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: it's a little bit of. That and you, know of
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Course tanks got a big. Following i'm thinking out loud
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: THAT i don't, know maybe maybe this is a bigger
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: fight than we think right.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Now i'm not either of them definitely take.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: It but If turkey Alas sheek's going to be thrown
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: around money on, FIGHTS i mean he could do a
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: lot worse than throwing around money on that, one and
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: that that would be a BIG us. FIGHT i, mean
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: that would be your BIG us. FIGHT i, mean you,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: know we are to, Point, chris you AND i talk
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: about this a. LOT i, mean you, know what really
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: really BIG us fights can you make That we're at
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: a point where there's not even like a lot of
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: theoretical matchups you could put together that would be that.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Big they'd be good, fights but they might not be
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: that big like this. ONE i don't, know you, know
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: maybe this is a bigger fight than we. Think maybe
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: this one is at least on like closer to A
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Ryan garcia tank type.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Level, YEAH i, mean even if it does at those,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: numbers six hundred thousand or, something that would be a
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: pretty big that's a sizable. Audience and, YEAH i DO
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: i do think that he has, managed when he's in
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the right spot to sell some tickets as, well so
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: he's not completely like people do know. Him he's been
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: doing million dollar, gates you, know which not many fighters
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: can do, that you, know there's not many, Actually so,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: YEAH i think it would be. Big, REALLY i.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Mean if you Had stevenson And, davis because Here davis
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: is An East coast guy at, LEAST i, mean if
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: you Had stevenson And davis fight in Like New york
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Or New. Jersey, YEAH i, mean you know that's not
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: gonna be it's paid per view that you're looking. FOR
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: i mean the, gate of, course and it probably be In,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: vegas you, know, right but it was media centers.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: There that's the.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Thing, yes, yeah, yeah does catch on and then he
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: helps you drive. SALES i MEAN i could you, KNOW
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: i could SEE i could see that attractive some, attention
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: some you, Know New york area, media even though they
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: don't regularly cover boxing, anymore but they might for. That,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: yeah that's the kind of thing you. Need drives your
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: pay per view. Sales you get a good, gate get,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: that get that Good New york area. Media it could
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: it could, definitely it could definitely be a be a
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: pretty pretty big fight compared to what we've got. Nowadays, yeah,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: YEAH i THINK i think you're.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Right, hopefully hopefully by the end of the, year that
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: would be a fight they'd either be uh getting ready
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: to make or. Make that'd be a great way to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: close the. Year let's talk about Early buwatzi And, smith
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Now Calliam. SMITH i, thought in many ways delivered in this.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: FIGHT i thought he was pretty damn good in this,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: fight very. COMPETITIVE i was actually just looking at the copy.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Box they both threw over six hundred. Punches in, Fact
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: bwatzi threw six oh six to seven sixteen So smith
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: through seven sixteen land and thirty eight percent to seventy
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy two. Lands they both were attacking
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the body fairly. Well obviously we Knew bowatzi would have
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: the jab, advantage which he, did but, that, uh it
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: was pretty. Complete, now it was a close. Fight it
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: was very, competitive no doubt about. IT i don't know
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: about the eight, four, uh but but what did you
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: think of the fight? Itself you, KNOW i THINK i had.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: IT i THINK i had it about two to two after.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: FOUR i Thought smith won the fifth and, SIXTH i,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: thought Then bwatzi made some hay and won the, seventh,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: eighth and then was kind of going back and forth
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to ninth To, smith the tenth To, bwatzie eleventh To
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: bwatsie and then the twelfth To. Smith SO i like
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the way he kept moving his. Hands he did do
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: some of the stuff you're talking about being at range And.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: BOZI i THOUGHT i didn't Think bootzi would come forward
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: that quick either in the. Fight but what are your
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that? Fight Is Kim. Smith you, KNOW i
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: gotta get to. Him he looked pretty damn good in that.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Fight he did a, great great. Fight fight of the
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: year for me so, FAR i, THOUGHT i, thought we're
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: at the end Of february twenty twenty. Five fight fighted
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: the year for, me so, far so perfect main, fight you,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: know first of the main fights on the card that
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: day here in THE, us and you, know great Fight Callum.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Smith big question for me, was you, know in his mid,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: thirties was he still going to really want to do,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: this really be prepared and bring. It and he certainly proved.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: That of, course anybody watching that, fight including to, myself
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: he proved that one and then, two you, know he's
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: still stuck With buddy. McGirt i also, thought you, know
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: SOMETIMES i don't even necessarily blame the. Fighters it would
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: have been for the same types of. Reasons don't want
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: to pay that money. Anymore then think maybe at the,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: end you, Know i'm not going to Pay gert to be,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: here and there's mcgert. THERE i, MEAN i have so
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: much belief in McGirt as you know, that you, know
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: IF i was certain mcgert was going to keep that
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: level of. Involvement it almost would have made me rethink
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: my pick Of. BLATZI i probably wouldn't have changed, it
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: BUT i would have thought about it. Harder but, again
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: mcgern only matters if you listen to, him and you,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: know because he's a great fight. Strategist but in this
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: FIGHT i Saw smith really. Listening and the key Where smith,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: listened and this Is smith himself has said. It he
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: said it after the. Fight it's where you, know he
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: didn't listen in the, past like you, know when when
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: he failed against you, Know canelo and Better. Bev in other,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: words letting himself get pushed back or he couldn't get
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: any leverage on his, shots and so you, know he
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: just wasn't. Effective you know that happened a lot in
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: this fight With. Bowatzi but you know McGirt kept telling
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: him in the corner and you could See smith make those.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Adjustments you, know then it was like he was, reminded
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i think if he would have led,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: him there was a few times in the. Fight it
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: was such a good fight where both men were hurt
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: on multiple. OCCASIONS i thought there was a couple of
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: times in the fight where If smith would have Allowed
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: wawatsa to keep backing them up and not change that.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Momentum he would have gotten, stopped but you, know then
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: he would start coming forward at, least you, know getting
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: leverage on his, shots nailing thea watseee with good hooks
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: and right hands and, uppercuts and you, know backing him
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: off and hurting. Him he heard him on a few,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: occasions you, know W watsae looked ready to go a
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: few Times smith.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: COULD i thought both men were seriously hurt on a couple.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Occasions it was that kind of a back and forth
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: fight And smith had the. CUT i did Think smith
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: edged it as, well but you, know real real good competitive. Fight.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Really then WHEN i finished, IT i, thought you, Know
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: smith earned his stop going up to really right below
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: the you know BiVO and better be of at the
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: top of the. Division AND i Thought blotzi performed well
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: enough really with A smith like looking At Like Gil
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: clezi always used to, say it depends sometimes what version
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: of the guy you're fighting shows, Up like this Callum
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: smith who's coming, forward throwing shots with, power you, know
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: and his big even for a light. Heavyweight you, know
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: that's a tough, opponent like you, KNOW blotsi, lost he was,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: hurt but he kept coming. Back he Hurt smith on multiple.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Occasions he showed a lot of things. HIMSELF i don't
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: think his stock to, me really. Dropped he hadn't had
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: that kind of a. Test he didn't win, it and
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: he was, hurt but he also didn't, fold and he
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: had a lot of great moments of his. Own so this,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: really to me was one of those classic like both
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: guys kind of won. FIGHT i, MEAN i Know blotzi
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: technically is a little set back because maybe he would
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: have been that guy right After bivolon.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: And now It's.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Smith BUT i think as a, fighter you, know for,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: me his stock didn't really. Drop he showed enough in that,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: fight including, heart and it was fight of the. YEAR i,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: mean that, one to me is gonna be tough to
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: top for fight you, know the rest of the. Year we'll.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: See i'm sure there's gonna be other good, ones but
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: that's my front runner For fighter of The year twenty
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: twenty five so. Far SO i was really pleased with.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: That when you have a big card like this and
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: it's pay per, view even a lower price pay per,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: view you know you're you're looking for that kind of
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: action and those guys definitely brought it and that was you,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: know fight of the night for.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah it was funny how it was like a
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: lot of, action like three fights in a, row and
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: then it kind of tapered off then it picked back,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: up which you, know when you have that long of a,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: card of course it's gonna. Be AND i kind of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: had to watch. IT i watched ABOUT i think the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: first four fights THEN i had to go to. Work
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: so it was like and they started it about forty
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: or they started that first fight about forty or fifty
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: minutes later than what they said it was going to.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Be SO i really THOUGHT i WAS i was timed up,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: perfectly you, Know but it's like, nope uh, SO i
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: BUT i did manage to get home late at night
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: with a couple, buddies AND i. HADN'T i. Hadn't well, unfortunately,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: nobody you, know nobody said anything to me like walking
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: in the bar.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Round that's what that's changed in THE, US i think.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: The other part about. It, yeah, RIGHT i was able
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: to keep it a secret the whole, time you.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Know, yeah twenty years, ago even you, know it would
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: be dope way you would not find out. One but
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: that's what's. CHANGED i noticed that over twenty years. Too
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: you could down you have to. Record nobody's going to
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: tell you who what? All you have to talk on social,
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: media sports the sports. Reports you, KNOW i won't even
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: put it on The.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah it asked to me some kind of highlight real
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: knockout or some kind of like after the bell and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the fighters go out of the bring or, something or you,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: know or they'll you, know they'll have it on the bottom.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Line but as long as you don't watch the bottom,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: line so it's. Right, YEAH i did like like you,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: SAID i liked the back and forth of, it and
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: there was multiple rounds just looking at the, numbers like
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: the eighth, round both of them landing over twenty. Punches
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: the ninth Round smith landed thirty, Two bwatzi twenty. Six
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the next, round the tenth, round it's flip flop thirty
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: five to twenty. FIVE i, mean these guys are really
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: going for, it and like you, said multiple times they
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: both got hurt or at least. Buzzed and Yeah, SMITH
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: i liked how, he like you, said all those punches he,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: landed but he was also kind of changing up the
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: speed on. It sometimes he was just going to the
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: body and he wasn't going for some kind of, knockout
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: but he was just he was just paddling up the
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: points and keeping the pressure. On AND i like also
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: what you said about there are times where we've seen
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: him kind of not do as much when things are
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: not going as, good and for him to push back
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: keep doing, it that was a Great that was his
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: best performance as a professional.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: FIGHTER i would have that argument with.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: That, yep that was. Good that was very, good and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: he definitely proved me wrong when it came to, push
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: came to. Shove that was that was a Great that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: was a great, fight like you, said and, hopefully you,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: know we get you, know more of these type of.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Fights we don't want this to Win fight of The
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: year because it's Only, february, right, Right BUT i, mean
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: that was that was a damn good. Fight in, fact
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: we watched, well since The parker fight didn't do, much you,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: know we watched the the main, event and THEN i was, like,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: dude we got to watch this other. Fight SO i
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: actually we went back and watched kabel In zang and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: then this one, too and they love this. Fight they
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: liked both of, them but they really were all about this.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Fight that's. Good that's good to hear that somebody who
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't always see the stuff seeing, that because that was
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: a good one for somebody like that's that's the type
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: of fight we need people who don't watch boxing all
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: the time to. See.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah AND i AND, i you, know throughout the last few,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: weeks WHEN i would come across SOMEONE i knew that,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: was you, know a semi casual or casual, FAN i
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: would tell him about this and AND, i you, know
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i tell him about the, zone but the fact
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: that you have to sign up for, it it's kind
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: of LIKE i don't want that to get in the way,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Either SO i do tell them about the pay per
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: view dot com or you, know technically if you have
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: cable you could, UH i think you could still order
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: it that.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: WAY i don't, know but yeah they. DID I i
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: didn't hear that till the last, moment but THEN i
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: THAT'S i heard, it and they had.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: IT i shouldn't talk about that at.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: All, yeah, no they did. Not you, KNOW i got
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: it on design just because it's just a personal setup
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: thing with the big screen on my downstairs here at
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: The West Virginia. Spot it's set up for it's set
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: up for. Design got the app, there so, yeah, exactly
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: it's one of the app. There so that's that's that's
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: actually the only REASON i got it through The zone
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: just for my own personal.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: SETUP i got the app on that.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: That downstairs big screen AND i don't have it, upstairs
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: so did. That but but then you have to if
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: you don't want to be hit up for The zone,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: subscription you got to cancel it. Immediately it's like you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: got to go through a maze. Too, yeah cancel, it
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: which they. Should they really shouldn't do. THAT i, mean you, know, yeah,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: business but they really shouldn't do.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: That, YEAH i mean it's kind of. Illegal, yeah it's, like,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: yeah it's basically, illegal you.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Know, yeah, right it's, like you, know it's definitely got consumer.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Friendly let's and we'll say, that.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah when you have to like google stuff to try
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: to learn how to and that's just like. Man and
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: then they Also i'll say this the zone from a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: customer friendly. Thing they haven't been friendly Because i'll see
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: all the, time not all the, time BUT i have
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: seen plenty of people SAY i got charged for an
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: extra month or even, says when you, quit you're getting
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: an extra. Month it's, like, what, LIKE i gotta pay
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: for an extra month even Though i'm, Quitting like it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem a. LOT i get that they have to
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: make a certain number or, whatever but, LIKE i don't.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Know they hit me up for extra five, bucks WHICH
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: i couldn't even figure out what it was supposed to.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Be BUT i hate doing, this BUT i didn't have
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: the energy TO i didn't have the energy to fight
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: with them about.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: It i'd fight exactly for five.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Bucks i'm, like, MAN i don't feel like it on
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: the line for somebody and try.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: To, yeah that's what it comes down, to, like you know,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: what just just.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Whatever, yeah they hit me up for an extra five,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: bucks Which i'm still scratching my head, about.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Right AND i wonder if they are they just obviously
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: want people to go to the app or. Whatever but,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: YEAH i didn't hear anything about you could do it on,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: cable like normally that's been, forever you could do it
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: on YOUR i saw it the very last. SECOND i saw,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: that AND i was, like oh, wait it's available on cable,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Too like why aren't you telling people about?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: This you, KNOW i didn't get people that.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Won't get it just because of the disown. Thing.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: RIGHT i was shocked fight. MORNING i saw it on
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: my DIRECT tv AFTER i heard it was on cable and,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: stuff AND i didn't order it off of that for
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: the REASONS i. Said but it was available the morning
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: of the fight on my DIRECT, tv AND i thought
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: the same. THING i, thought this hasn't been publicized at.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: ALL i didn't know it at.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: ALL i hadn't been telling anybody or. NOTHING i don't.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Know it's proof though that they're not doing anything for
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: us sensibilities except for Having ortiz And stevenson on the.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Card but let's speak.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that a little later, too because
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: it is interesting how great of a card it. Was
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: but you know what kind of like if if that
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: card's not putting a dent into, it that's not a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: great sign per se because it's A i, mean we
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: even tak talking about last week odds, wise good luck
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: trying to match that. Card it's gonna.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Be got to give that. Card you're not gonna be
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: very hard to match that card odds.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: On very. Hard we might have to get like the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: federal government to put up some money for. That you, know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: yeah otherwise they still.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: If they still exist in a couple of, yeah exactly
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: at the pace That musk's.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Going, yeah maybe that's where, well you, know we're supposed
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: to the five thousand dollars you, know thing they're gonna
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: give out to some. People maybe they'll give it out to,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: boxing because like we, Said trump was a is a boxing.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: FAN i think you, know he's got enough on his
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: table now with all with all, this, yeah, cause but
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: BUT i still think there's something to. THAT i, Mean
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Dana white was sitting right there with him at the. Inauguration,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean and he's supposedly getting together With Turkey
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: alaschic to try to do something with, yeah, BOXING i,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: mean that's that's credible. Reports so you're not far you're
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: not far removed from, it, literally.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: YEAH i mean They're, yeah and you, know we'll see
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: what happens To Ali act and all. THAT i mean
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: that stuff could definitely move So ortiz And. Modrumov so
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: going into this, THING i made sure to write it
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: down WHAT i saw plus one ninety for decision For
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: teas and plus two point fifteen For. Madrumov so it you,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: know on, paper very close fight, OBVIOUSLY i thought Madra
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: mov actually got off to a pretty good. Start he
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: was doing that stick and move where He sergio kind
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: of talked about it throughout the, fight but at TIMES
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: i thought didn't relay it all that. Well but when
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: he does move in and, out not necessarily move on
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: the outside the whole, time BECAUSE i don't think that wins,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: fights especially if you're really picky and, choosy when you're
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: gonna throw punches instead of clean. Potshots that's WHY i
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: always go back To mayweather with this, stuff because it's,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: like all, right do he's not gonna throw but forty
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: punches in a, round but you know they're gonna be
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: about twenty of them land and you're gonna see, it you.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Know SO i thought he had a good, start and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: then it was kind of back and. Forth it Took
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: ortiz a little time to warm up and get his
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: jab going in the, one two and the body, shots
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: AND i did like WHAT i saw out Of madramuff
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: for maybe the first maybe six eight. Rounds then it
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: seemed Like ortiz started to get his jab, going attacking the,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: body letting his hands go and slowing him, down cutting
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: the ring. Off what were your thoughts on this, fight
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: because it was another you, know that's the. Thing there
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: were competitive fights on this you, know on this car
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: this was very competitive as.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah competitive fight this this. ONE i felt LIKE
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: i had the best handle on analysis wise where it
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: played out the WAY i thought it was gonna because to,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: me even in the first half of the, fight even
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: though he was more, EFFECTIVE i thought the power Of
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: ortiz Had madrumov doing too much of that jumping in and,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: out and the commentators did touch on. That you, know
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: he's he's not as effective when he starts doing that too.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Much he was doing it too, much AND i think
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: it was because Of ortiz's. Power then what changed late
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: in the fight where he ended up being less even less,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Effective BUT i think that's where you become almost like
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: panicked because he wasn't being, Effective like he stood and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: he got more, aggressive but it was it was like.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: It was like he didn't really believe in himself, Anymore like.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: He was just closing his eyes almost and throwing, yats
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: and like he wasn't like standing, there like really about
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: being tried to be an effective boxer who changed tactics
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: and was now going to stand and slug with. Him
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: it was just like kind of like winding up just, yeah,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: wild not cleaned at, all throwing wild, shots and you, KNOW.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: I give, IT i got.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: IT i do have. TO i did have to end
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: up giving it to. Him he did stand, more but
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: it wasn't. Effective and it looked to me like at
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: that point Or ortiz had kind of gotten to him
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: a little mentally where he just you, know was desperate
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: and and and wasn't you, know really staying with you,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: know Because i've seen him fight good like that as
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: his pro career went. On you AND i talked about
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: that when we were reviewing. IT i thought when he started,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: staying he was going to get, that and he. Was
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: he was throwing wild shots and missing, wildly and it
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: just Wasn't it wasn't like. Effective And, orties as the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: commentators were, mentioning AND i, Agreed ortiz really seemed to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: find his boxing groove even. More. Uh he was mixing
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: it up from boxing to landing a lot of good
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: body shots and uh.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: He finished very.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Strong the mystery now to me With ortiz because IS
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: i was somebody saying. It BUT i can't fully blame
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: myself because nobody's got a real good. Explanation why why
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: is the weight thing seemingly?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: NOW i, mean you know he was totally laid out. Everything,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: yeah we know it was one forty seven OUs one
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: fifty four seven. Pounds it's not that that's, nothing but
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: for it to be.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: That, dramatic you, know like multiple, times multiple.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Times there's something what's going on? HERE i, MEAN i
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: know what, Happened and you, know when you're we try
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: to analyze, fighters so you really do want to know this.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: STUFF i MEAN i KINDA i kind of need to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: hear some credible information from somebody who knows what they're talking,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: about who would have knowledge.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Like like what happened?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Here you, know like, yeah or did he just have
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: some condition that wasn't necessarily linked to the weight which
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: they were saying.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: And you kind of didn't believe.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: It but but, again seeing what we see, NOW i
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: DON'T i don't know what. Happened i'm going to say,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: NOW i don't know what happened. Here i'm kind of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: kind of had a loss for theories now of exactly
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: what happened because to, me the seven that's WHY i was,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: saying go.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Middleweight they did talk about, it there's nobody.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: THERE i still think he could do, that but he's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: proven to me now he could make one fifty, four
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: WHICH i. Thought he's not going to be even able
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: to do. That he'll be drained and not. Effective SO
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: i DON'T i really don't know what happened. Here i'd like.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: To i'd like to hear some inside stories of what
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: was going on With ortiz there so we can add
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: that to properly analyze. Him because he. Did he did
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: look real good and he's an undefeated guy with a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: lot of, power and he showed a lot of Skill saturday,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: too so you, know, REALLY i think the shame is
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: this guy's been with the own too. Long he's Not
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: he's never gotten THE us. Exposure you, know he's An
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: american who, has you, know STRONG us sensibilities for a
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: guy who would build a huge, following but the exposure's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: never been.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: There, YEAH i think it's only been on One canelo,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: card maybe two tops when he was. Younger but, yeah.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah not not, enough you, know not enough these other
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: guys Like, stevenson you, know AND i always remind, people you,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: know don't Forget tank with all THOSE pbc FREE tv,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: appearances so to, speak on his way, up you, know
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: WHEN pbc was first getting. GOING i, mean you know these,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: guys you, know you can't underestimate. THAT i, mean those
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: are so there's we're talking about a matchup. There those
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: guys have been. Seen Virgil ortiz as good as he
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: is and entertaining, style great us sensibilities as An, american
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: he just really hasn't been, seen you, know outside of
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: real hardcore, fans even though he is An, american and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's a shame because you could give him
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: some big spots. Now but but where you're going to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: generate the, momentum you, know he would actually that's where
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: you have to would almost have to bring an opponent
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: who's been, seen you, know and and do it that.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Way uh you, know they might they might have to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: start thinking about somebody like that for when he's going
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: to have a big, fight because otherwise it's just gonna
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: kind of tread and water in terms of.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Exposure, YEAH i, mean what's he gonna do like cash
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Out spence or, something you know WHAT i, mean like
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: gonna want to take the, fight you, KNOW i guess
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: if someone makes it out of. That Tim Zoo thurman
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: plan they have where they both get a fight when
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: they fight later the. Summer that would be. Something but,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: yeah you're, right and once, again you know In texas
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: he does pretty. Well we've seen his crowd, grow you,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: know like you, say he's got the, style he's got
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: he's got real. Skill. Right that's the thing about this.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Fight not only did he dominate to the body sixty
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: five to twenty, two but sixty to thirty with the jab.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Too so Like Maja, mob you gotta win the, jab
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: but if you're not winning the, jeb what are you?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Doing then you know WHAT i? Mean and that's the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: THING i think he he's too picky and choosy with his.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Punches and, then like you, said it was a little
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: too late to start winging it and kind of going
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: back to some of those old. Habits and at least
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: when he did, that he wasn't fighting that kind of caliber.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Guy so he's still land the punch. Cleanly but, now
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: like you, said he didn't he wasn't really landing much
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: of those at. All so you, know there was that
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: stuff after the fight because you, know as we, know
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: he had a fight With Boa, chuck then he got
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: sick and then all of a sudden he had you,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: know he was already scheduled for ties and then now he's, saying,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: well you, know about a week, ago somebody SAID i
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have. Fight you, know it's, like, Well i'm, sorry you,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: know it's just too. Bad Nobody i'm. Playing you, know you're.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Sick you wouldn't go on a seventeen hour flight, either,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: propably you know WHAT i. Mean, so, yeah that that
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't bode. WELL i THINK i think he's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: a very good. FIGHTER i think that what you said
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: with the crop thing and the weight thing rang true as.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Well he didn't look as good this. Fight obviously it's
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: a different, fight different fighter With, ortiz but, yeah ortis,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: man he uh now that he's got, however he got
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: that in. Order, yeah this guy is a damn good.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Fighter he's got the right, mantell he's got a great. Corner, yeah,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: man he did. It he did his. Thing it took
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: a little, while AND i kind of liked that for
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: him because if you look at the first six, rounds
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: it could have been tied or whatever it. Was it
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: was a competitive. Fight but, yeah he just kept you,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: know boxing slash going to the body slashed bigger, shots
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: AND i really liked WHAT i saw that that.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Was a very, good very good, performance.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Very good. Performance and you, know he's the guy that
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: we thought he was gonna fight Stantoni. Is we thought he.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Was you, know he's been right on the cusp of
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: a big, fight you, know and it's always gotten taken
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: away from him one way or the. Other and he
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: Even stanonius got uh what was it his tonsils or something.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: Something, yeah health, Problem, yeah he had a health.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Problem it was appendix or something. Like it was just, like,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: man these two are just. Jinks so it is nice
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: now that both of them get an. Opportunity Obviously ortiz
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: took advantage of. His we'll see what he does Against
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Boots stanonius That i'm really looking forward to that fight as.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Well let's talk About ottomas And. Chiraz this one speaking
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: of trying to pick for the perfect punch and not
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: really punch a whole, lot looking for just the, picture,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: perfect highlight real punch or. SOMETHING i don't know what
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: the Hell shiraz is. Doing we've seen shades of, that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: BUT i thought the Way adamas was actually coming to.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Him so what do you think of? This, fight and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: you do have people making a big deal About. Turkey
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: he basically just went up to him and, said, hey you're.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Two you know you have two. Left you have to
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: win these two, fights, right you, Know i'll say this real.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Quick people from the promotion find not, always but we
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: have seen people know the. Score but sometimes it's at,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: home the home, score you, know like someone's. Watching they
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: call him and, say, hey, dude you're down by. Two
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: sometimes one of the trainers will be near the judge
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: and so they can see something or. WHATEVER i thought
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: it was a little, overblown BUT i don't. Know It's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: it's like the Way turkey comes across, is, Hey i'm
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: just making great. Fights you're starting to see who he
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: wants to win the, fights you know WHAT i? Mean
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: and even better be it the way he spoke of.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Him it was like looking at his Next he didn't
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: really you. Know so that's kind of this, guy and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: you know that's a natural thing if you're a. Promoter
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: but it's just kind of the run of the mill
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: type boxing. Stuff so what did you think did did
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: you think anything of? THAT i, mean he's just talking
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: to the. Corner, well first of, all you, know two
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: rounds or maybe he's saying you're down by, two you know,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: whatever not.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Time not saying not trying to sound, naive But i've
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: always thought it's a it's a good time to bring it.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: UP i have always thought myself this, idea, like you,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: know a promoter's you're promoting a, fight even maybe if
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: he's got a guy that you, know where's with somebody
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: else or something against one of his, guys but he's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: promoting the. FIGHT i always thought, that you, know this
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: idea that like then the promoter could just like root
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: for his guy when he's promoting a. Fight i've Never
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: i've never THOUGHT i don't think it should be considered.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: ACCEPTING i, mean you, KNOW I i just think in,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: General i've always had a problem THAT i, mean we
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: see it's just completely, common and you, Know hearn's become
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: the worst at. IT i, mean you, know jumping, around you,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: know cheering for, guy you, know walking guys into the.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: Ring you're the, promoter what do you what do you
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: what do you walking a guy into the ring for you, know.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: Hold the belts and yeah, RIGHT i mean holding the,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: belt hold the belts and all that kind of.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: Stuff so it's a little bit like that to be
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: because Obviously Turkey Ali sheik's involved in the. PROMOTION i
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: think this one probably really does come down, to like
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: some people were, SAYING i, saw and this is WHERE
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: i guess it depends what the real facts are of what.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: Happened, YEAH i.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: Saw one guy was saying that at the moment he did,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: that and this is outside of the part of he's
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: rooting for. Somebody but, like where did it even get the?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: Information one guy, saying, well it was time with like
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: HIS ai. Judge he was just reporting what HIS ai you,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: know he had the fourth a ey judge or. Whatever
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: and then other people were, saying which if it did
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: happen this, way it's it is totally wrong that you,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: know he's actually being let known what's going on in
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: the school the, scorecards Because i've never been in favor
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: of open. SCORING i, think you, know that's something you
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: need to boxing and goes back, throughout you, know traditions of.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: Boxing we don't want to ruin, that like all kinds
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: of other things that are getting ruined in. Boxing so,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: yeah how where did he get the information? From? Matters
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: but then generally my own preference, is, YEAH i don't
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: like people being involved in the, promotion even if it's
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: their fight or somebody, else like walking got people to the,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: ring or openly he's supposed to be involved in the,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: promotion you.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 7: Know you, KNOW i just like you've done your, job
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 7: sit back and enjoy the. Fight, yeah you're supposed to
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: make sure just the fight gets you, know the fight gets.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: PROMOTED i mean it makes, money the fighters make. Money you,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 7: know you get as many viewers as, possible as many
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 7: people as, possible you, know not not being some cheer
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 7: leader in there for your guy walking them to the.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Ring and you, know.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Whether Would javonte do that a couple of times?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Too, Yeah so like, yeah GENERALLY i don't like. IT
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: i don't. Know but, then like you, SAID i thought
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: the same, thing like was it maybe the big deal
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: that some people are making.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: OUT i don't, KNOW i. DON'T i don't like that
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: type of thing in.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: General. Yeah and and and you KNOW i thought shere
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: as his performance was, TERRIBLE i hyped him going in
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: based on the fight with the Two williams Is liam And.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Ammo and you know it's you try to people have
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: bad nights and, things and there's different. Styles BUT i
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: don't know WHAT i saw. Here this was more like
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: he was. Early Sheer as was earlier in his, career
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: so you, KNOW i was really from this. FIGHT i
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: thought the draw was a. ROBBERY i got some debate
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: with some people that are, like, well you, know, Yeah
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: adamus might have won, it but it wasn't a. Robbery
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: i'll say that here. Tonight you.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Know that's What i've been.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: SAYING i felt that was a rob AND i Picked
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: sheerras going, in so, yeah we both. Did that's got
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: to tell you a lot. TOO i mean Like i'm
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: really hyping the. GUY i really believed. Him that's to
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: me how bad it. Was like the bell rung for round,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: twelve you, know at the end of round, twelve round,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: twelve and in the, fight And i'm, like this is
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: an easy win for A. Damis you, KNOW i was
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: like it was a nine to, MYSELF i was thinking
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: it was a, nine three eight four at best For,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: as And i'm getting.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: Drawn i'm, like.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: What what what you? Got i'm, like you got to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: be kidding. ME i, MEAN i thought A damas did
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: a good, job you, know walking down a much bigger,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: guy getting him. Worse so the guy's not coming, forward
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: not getting a leverage on his. Punch he's you, know head,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: movement was boxing with it like he he, didn't you,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: know he didn't have to do it. Recklessly that's what
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: surprised me. TOO i, agree head movement. Boxing he's now
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: him With. Sallas you, know you've seen fights where his
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: boxing really has seemed to improve a, lot starting with
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: the Derevajan chenko, fight AND i agree with you in this.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: One you, know he was coming, forward pushing him, back
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't. Reckless you, know he was boxing, well
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: he was the only guy laying in the, punches throwing the.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: Punches he was the. AGGRESSOR i, mean where was there
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: to give Sheer as anything in this? FIGHT i mean
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: then then you hear the excuses about the hand. AFTERWARD i,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: mean and maybe her his, hand but he was. DREADFUL
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: i mean it was just for a guy who everybody
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: seemed to agree going into that, fight including. Myself this
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: is this is the star making. Opportunity if he could
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: load on A damas who's at the top of a
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: weak middleweight division With Emma, klouley you, Know Janna, beck
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: they're right, there you, know but that's one of the two.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Guys you, know if he could dismantle this, GUY i
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: mean he's a, star you. Know not only did he
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: not dismantle, him he couldn't even clearly beat him by.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: Decision he couldn't even look. Good he looked he looked.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: Terrible he looked like before a Fighting liam And Liam
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: williams And Ammo. Williams that that's the way he used
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: to see the, guy even though he was on a knockout.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Run but it was against very low, opposition you, know
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: JUST i, thought you, know talk about a. Guy you,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: know you want to look at whose stock dropped on the?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Card uh? Right you KNOW i mean at Least pacoli
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: has the two day two day.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Dose, yeah, yeah he'll be completely dissolved with. That.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: YEAH i mean here as it's like they're coming up
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: with the excuse because it was so. Bad that is, like,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: yeah reminds you of the promoter type, stuff, like, man
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: this this was. Dreadful you, KNOW i want to save
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: my my guy here for future. Fights we better come
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: up with the. Hand it was the, hand same test
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: with that not to get. It if she has wants
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: to put the medical records out there and show us
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: what the hand he he was that he broke. This
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: And i'll be the first to, Say, Okay i've seen
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: the medical, records, right BUT i don't think we're GONNA
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: i don't think we're gonna.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: See you're gonna have to be out for a while,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: too and, yeah you're gonna be out for a year
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: surgery or something bright surgery or.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: Something, yeah you want to show me all, that, fine
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: But i'll wait and see on. THAT i, mean if
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: they want to show me, that Maybe i'll rethink it
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: a little, bit not that, much because you, know he
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: just wasn't doing.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: Other good things in.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: There it wasn't, Like, okay he's got the one hand,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: hurt but he's doing all these other good things in,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: there and he's controlling the range and. STUFF i, mean
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: he hurt a hand so he couldn't keep a domis
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: off them at, all you, know with with with one you,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: know one good, hand with the other hand being one
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: good hand being. Involved you, know if he really broke
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: his hand, bad you, know we know how that would be.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Tough but you didn't see, it like you didn't like
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: see a moment during the fight like that. Either, Yeah,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: yeah you're, Right, yeah like like where he was real
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: effective and all of a, Sudden, oh why.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Is right he dropped?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: Off why is he dropped?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: Off he was looking you, Know i've had a lot
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: of fights like that would have really, like, look you, know,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: people a lot of people for some. REASON i don't
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: know why is a really good fighter just because they
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: decided to like a fight once a. Year but you
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: know that one fight When Gary, russell then you know.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: They clearly see like his, shoulder you, know it was, like,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: yeah you, know he's.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Looking fine and he's throwing. NOTHING i, mean you know
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: we seen fights like. That this was not one of
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: those fights like your ass is looking good all you,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: know this is WHAT i thought he'd, be you, know
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: and then what? Happened then you're, going oh what? Happened
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: now he's just like you're, Waiting you're. Waiting you're, like
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: where is? It where is it That you're, like this
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: guy is losing the. Fight then you're, like this guy
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: is losing the fight.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Badly, yeah, yeah just he had his jab and that's about,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: it and he just Never, yeah it's like he's just
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: waiting for and he's just waiting for the perfect shot
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: because we know he's got power or, Whatever but LIKE
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: i think MAYBE i would to your point of you,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: know the first six rounds he was doing his thing
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: and then it fell. Off but we've also seen him
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: fight like. This you, know it hasn't been in a,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: while but we have seen him fight like, that and
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: that was kind of LIKE i was a little, like,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: well let's see what he does, here and then all
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: of a sudden we started seeing. MORE i was, like,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: yeah this guy is the real. Deal but, yeah and
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: then if you look at what is, it it's seventy
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: three to nine to the body, Too Like adam has
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: just went there enough and it is with that reach
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: that's very tough to get to, him you. Know AND i,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: thought like you, said he did a good. Job he
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: didn't go down of, control he didn't swing. Wildly he
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: was just very you, know precise and. Consistent and LIKE i,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: said that upper there's times LIKE i think if you
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: fought him, again he would he would really start to
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: hurt him because that upper body movement in the head,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: movement if he can get that clicking even, better he
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: could have really Hurt. SHARAZ i think. So and it's
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: not like adamis is known for his power.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: Either you, know, yeah NOW i think you know now
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: for me and that, Fight adamus lifted his stock because
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: he showed that boxing thing wasn't LIKE i don't want
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: to call it a, fluke but you, know it's hard
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: for a guy who hadn't done it to kind of
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: stick with, it like, Yeah like you, know we saw
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: it Against dara Van, schenko even though he fought in
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: a different style here where that fight he was just
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: boxing dere Vine. Schenko in this, fight he was being,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: aggressive but it was still boxing. Skill and You sallas
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: is really good at at teaching, that and you saw it.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Here it was effective regression boxing. Skill he wasn't afraid
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: to go after the big guy and push him, back and,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: uh really good performance for. Him up to, STOCK i
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: thought he certainly wanted to me the draw was a
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: robbery of a. Damis you, know you, KNOW i just
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: thought HE i thought he clearly won the. Fight SO
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: i think his stock went up shere as big big
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: stock drop for, me real real big stock drop for.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Me. Yeah and even if you had him only win
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: seven to, five it was a clear seven to, five you,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: know BECAUSE i was in that seven to five eight four,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: RANGE i had it maybe a little more, competitive but,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: LIKE i, mean one of the judges had at one
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: eighteen one, ten you know, what the and then this
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: one fifteen one fourteen is is kind of a funny.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Thing they did have one dry, ass SO i, mean you,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: KNOW i kind of hate doing, this but it is somewhat.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: True at least it was a. Draw you, know he
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: didn't take an l blah blah. Blah but.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: And since he was an underdog at, least, yeah you,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: know even though he won the fight a, thought but,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: draw he was an underdog going.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: In, yeah gets to keep his, belt you. Know, YEAH
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: i mean his stock. Deservedly, Yeah so it does help
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: a little, bit but it's still he should have been
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: given the, victory no doubt about, it and it did.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: CLEARLY i think you broke down That turkey stuff directly
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i. Agree i'm not a fan of, it and
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: it never used to be that way, really but since
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: we have seen an abundance of it, now LIKE i
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: can't freak out all of a sudden just Because turkey's doing.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: It but he did the first. TIME i didn't know
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: what the hell he was. Saying but the second view
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: that they gave had had good audio and he said
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: you're down by. Two he said it straight. Up so it's,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: like once, again this is kind of run of the
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: mill boxing stuff that we keep. Hearing he's. Different it's, like,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: okay this this freaking card was. Different that's for damn,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: sure we'll never deny. That but there's also things Where i'm,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: like like the, uh like THE U bank ben fight
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: that's got a special video game, belt you, know and.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: That's pure, that that's PURE uk sensibility.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: Stuff like, Yeah i'm not saying they can't market, that
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: but this is like What i'm saying FOR us, boxing
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: we have a, problem like you, know de zones basing
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: themselves in THE UK uk video thing they're building, up you,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: know you know BEN U bank's got NO US i
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: don't want to say NO us appeal BECAUSE i don't
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: really mean, that but, like you, KNOW i mean that
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: that's A uk sensibilities. Fight it's not like that's like
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: a perfect example of we talk to certain fights WITH us,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: Sensibilities like that's just totally TO uk, Sensibilities like it's
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: not it's not anything ABOUT U us Sensibilities and and
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: that was a big part of you, know their promo
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: in it in that card with that video game and. Stuff,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: yeah and now this week again that it's not building
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: anything for THE us market.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: And it's nothing. New and, hey if you get a
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: sponsor for a, video you, know that's. Fine you, know
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: we need more sponsors in, boxing but you didn't need
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: to make a damn. Belt you, know now we're going
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: to start fighting for that belt, too or you, know
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of. Weird let's talk about the main.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Event you could tell it was a deep card that
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: we're just now getting to the main Event. Bevol it's
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: weird because the WAY i broke, DOWN i was starting
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: to kind of follow people's scorecards and obviously the live
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: scorecard in the real scorecards and all, that AND i
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: kind of broke it down to those although it john
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: it didn't come down to the first two, rounds BUT
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: i noticed that if it was too Old, beval there's
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: a good chance you either had to draw or For.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Beval but if you had it won, one there was
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: a good chance you had to draw or the other,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: way you, know for better be. IT i had it one,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: one because then after that the, third, fourth, fifth and,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: sixth that was all better be. Off and it's really,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: weird how, like, well remember we were talking about maybe
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: it could be a case if it's the thirteenth round
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: and better be of just picks right up where he left.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Off and that's exactly what he did right through six, rounds,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: However and that's WHAT i love about. Boxing and sometimes
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: when you get a rematch or, whatever then you, know
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: unexpected stuff, happens because then you look at the, seventh,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: eighth and, ninth all of a, Sudden bevall's doing exactly
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: what we asked them to do and throwing real hard
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: punches on top of landing the jab and scoring and
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: moving and all. That because there were some times where,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: dude you're not gonna win this fight moving that, much
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: like it's just you're not being effective and all. That
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: but then he not necessarily just stood his ground per,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: se but it was kind of more that in and,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: out like just enough to where it was making BETTER
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: bf have to, reset, reset, reset and and there were
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: some spots where he had up that high guard and
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: really wasn't giving it back per se for a little
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: for some. Realms you, Know, NOW i did think down
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: the STRETCH i had tenth round better b of Eleventh
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: bvall and then the twelfth BETTER. Bf SO i had
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: it either six' sixth OR if i was going to pick,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: A winner i would have PICKED. Better Bf but i'm okay.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: With it what are, your thoughts, because yeah it's like
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: the fight just kind of flipped right on, Its, head john.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: It did and on, THIS one i do have a
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: theory OF what i.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Think happened, and well, You, KNOW bivol i don't because
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: most of the times you have self denial or they
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: don't want to, let On like bevoll before, the fight,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: and like, You know english is obviously a. Second language
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: BUT he i thought he like actually described why he
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: lost the, first fight like like he said. It himself,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: he's like, YOU know. I didn't. I didn't i didn't.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: DO enough I knew i could have, done MORE and
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: i didn't. Do Enough and i'm like, This guy, I'M
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: like i actually agree. With that and Then what i'm
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: gonna get to is he said something after the FIGHT
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: which i think for what he did fit more than
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: what anybody else is saying giving him props on which
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: here here's THE way i SAW because i did see
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: the rounds kind of like. YOU did i Thought better
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: bee edged IT but i did. See it it was
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: flipped just the way you. DESCRIBED it I mean, i
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: thought just like. You did, you know you're you're watching
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: those first, six rounds, it's Like better beev's picked up
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: where he left off the. Last fight bival's just moving.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: Too Much he's i'm not landing, anything hard, you Know.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Better bev then if he comes on in the second
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: half like he did in the, first, fight yeah, he's gonna,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: you know win this, thing clearly if, you know or
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: maybe get elite stoppage.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: Or.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: Something yeah but then, to me it got to the
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: second half of, the fight and, YOU know, i, thought like,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: you know better b have just took that. First half
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: and then he looked, to me but he looked to
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: me like and bivvall was just. Moving around even the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: commentators were saying it some, you know really not let,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: you know maybe one moment he landed, something hard but
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: that was. About it he didn't really he, just moved,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: you know he. Just moved but then like in the,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: SECOND half i thought it was More better Ban Than,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: BIVOAL like i, just thought better b have ran out.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: Of gas, you know he's a forty year, old guy and,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: you know some people, say, no, NO no i really
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: do think that's. WHAT happened, I mean i've heard.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about, the age maybe caught up to a, little.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: Bit yeah like like. Like one and it's kind of
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: Funny because i'm pointing out some of the good things,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: they say and unfortunately on the whole the, WHOLE broadcast
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: i think there was a lot of bad with his.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: Own COMMENTATORS but I guess i guess there's the positive
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: and he's just REMEMBERING when i heard something GOOD because i,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: liked it then hook onto it if It's something, i'm
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: thinking or it fits WITH something I think i might,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: be SEEING and i forget who. Said it it might.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: Have been it might have been more in the, first
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: half like, you know he was, saying, like well, you
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: KNOW better b is doing doing. Real good, you know
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: it's going. His way he's, pushing it but he might
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: be he might be using up, his gas, you know and, you're,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: thinking OH better bf comes on late. And stuff but
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: you know sometimes he's not doing that much early.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: And comes on lake because he's got the.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: Tank stuff just, like, running right that's just like Running
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: that that's why it reminds me to standing in like mararathioning.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: AND running i think that's what happened to.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: The guy and he's forty, years old and people aren't
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: taking enough account of that because even though he's been
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: really EFFECTIVE and i thought he edged, both fights but
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: she's forty. Years old he should actually be getting more credit,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: for that because, You, know bivol he can't change the
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: age of the guy. He's fighting and the guy, was
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: undefeated but he's still fighting a forty year old guy.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: IN matters, i mean the guy's forty years old and
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: he's had a lot, of injuries, so, like yeah he's
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: expending more energy in the first half than he, normally
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: does and that ended up BEING what i think. Really
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: happened like whatever his gas, tank is his gas tank
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: was on a quarter the second half of, that fight
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: and normally it's probably the way he.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: Paces himself he's on three.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: Quarters when he gets the, second half and THAT'S what
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: i thought we. Were seeing now THE part i was
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: alluding To about bivoll said after, the fight it's not
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: THE way i would have thought he had to fight
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: it to get, a WIN and i didn't think he.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: Did win But what i'm going to give him is
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: his stamina was. So good basically he was able to
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: move for the. Twelve rounds but again this is the thing,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: of like, to me like surprising Honesty.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: FROM bivol i almost.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Attributed to the, second language, you know like maybe maybe
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have enough It is english vocabulary to bs.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Or something but like he's said after, the FIGHT and
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: i think this probably was. The case, he said, you
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: know in the, first fight in the, FIRST half i
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: tried to sometimes set that down to, hurt him to,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: get respect and it took more energy out, of me,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: he said, THIS time i didn't even try to. DO
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: that I just i just tried to move and not
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: even put any hurt on, this right JUST and i
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: felt stronger in the second half of the fight because
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: ONE thing i disagree with you a, Little, bit CHRIS is,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: i thought EVEN though I thought bivol then was, winning.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: Rounds in the, SECOND half i thought he was almost
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: like just.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: SLAPPING him i mean, to me it was like almost
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: like a overkiller and just trying to. Score points now,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: you know he got, the decision but like, you know
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: again THE way i, SCORE fights i, was like, you
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: know AND that's i think it's a fair, bias sometimes,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: YOU know i do look to the aggressor MORE because
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: i think we need people.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: Making Fights and, i'm Like better BEA's not real.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: Effective here he's not throwing as MUCH as, i like
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: but but he's getting slapped by the other guy and
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: and the other guy's missing, a lot, You KNOW like
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: i Do think bivol was better in the. SECOND half
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: i was giving him. MORE rounds i thought that faded
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: badly until. THE twelfth i Thought better bev did really
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: good in. THE twelve i had to check after IT
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: because i was. Just curious all the judges did give him.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: The twelfth.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: But that's like a gas, tank too because when you're fading.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: Like that and then you know he's getting into like say,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: six on and he knows, he's faining he's not, feeling
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: good then sometimes all you're doing is like saving whatever
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: you got left for. The, twelfth sure BUT but i
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: heard him on the scorecards like he didn't. Hurt him
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: he won, the twelfth but you know he had to.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: Give away but on, my card, you know he was giving. Away,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: everything yeah got to, the twelfth and it's kind, of,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: like dude, you know you just can't keep you just
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: can't keep giving away rounds by just, you know like,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: you said High guard bivall not landing anything to me of,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: real authority But better beev not, really landing, you know
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: much throwing, much back, you know really having the urgent
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: see that he did in the. First FIGHT now i
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: didn't think he had the. Gas tank and then after,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: THE fight i thought his comments.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: Were honest and this IS what.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: I felt the way it played out this second fight
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: getting made, You Know better beev said after, the fight,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: you know you can Look at JUSE's but i think
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: there's probably truth because the way the fight, CAME together
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: i think you saw evidence. Of that he, JUST said
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: i didn't want this. Fight next, YOU know. I didn't
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: i didn't feel Like fighting. BEVO again i wanted to
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: go in. Another DIRECTION now i got to kind of
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: go and get. THE win, i, think frankly, YOU know
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: i think he'll probably be, too old and if they're
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: going to do, A three i Think better bev is
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: going to be. Too old and that's just my thinking
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: OF what i saw here in the. Second half but,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: YOU KNOW i i, my theory and the way you
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: saw him acting after, the fight, to me it just fit.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: My theory, YOU know I, thought hearn, you Know Through Turkey,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: ali sheek but, You know hearn's got, you know he's had,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: a dad his own deal and every. THING too i
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: thought he just rammed this second Better be. Vivvall home,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: YOU know i really do think that Was, primarily hearn,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: you know Getting, to turkey alos getting to go in.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: This direction And then, i'm thinking, You know hearn had to,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: you know it's, his guide but he's got to have
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: some motivation. For IT and, i thought, you know when
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: you see the other deal that, WAS signed i think,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: it fits like, you know whether it's going to be
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: an exciting fight, Or not canela rematch is going to
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: be the Biggest Payday eddie Hearn And dimitri bivol are
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: going to get Out of Hearn. Having BIVOLL so i
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: think that's, to me that's Probably what hern had. In
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: mind the only way he's going to get that Is
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: for vall to be the light heavyweight camp and uh
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: so he's got to get batter b of again now
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: or somebody else is going to. Get it and, you
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: know you saw, THE way, I mean hearn was acting
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: like a little kid after, the fight like HE was
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: i mean, YOU know i know he promotes, the GUY
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: but i actually even thought that was over. THE top,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: i mean he's said it's the best performance he ever.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: Saw alive any you're a promoter if you have if you,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: haven't put if you haven't put, the fight and.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: That means you're a little kid at boxing events and
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: you can't say.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: Come ON.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: So i don't have any argument with, you know people
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: That thought. BIVOL won i didn't think. HE won i
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: had a kind of. LIKE you I mean i thought
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: better be of, real strong, you know first six, or so,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: you know Not saying bivall didn't take a round, or
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: something but then, you know dramatically running out of Gas
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: and bivall able to. Keep moving bivall not running out.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: OF gas i, mean that, you know That's what, i'm
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Saying that bivall did not run out. OF gas i
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: mean lost to twelve Because better beev was able to just.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: Bring more but and You know bivall's, you know after
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: seeing these, two fights with all his, other fights, YOU
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: know i mean YOU and i both thought maybe going
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: to the, first fight was bival going to be a
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: guy that like when he was under this level, of
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: duress that he was going to feel forced to stand.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: And fight well that's not.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 8: THE case, i, mean, yeah true he is never gonna
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 8: he is never going to stand there and exchange, with
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 8: you no matter who you are or what power you're bringing.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: After him, is, that guys the dude's not going to.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: DO it i mean as long as he. Can move
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: maybe when he's forty if he, can't move but he's
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: not going to do.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: IT voluntarily, i.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: Mean after twenty four rounds WITH, better bf you could.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: See that so the, dudes, just no that's not IN.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: His dna he's not going to. Do that and he
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: didn't do any of that. This Time But better beev just.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: Faded instead it came on with the exception of the
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: twelfth and you know that was the difference on the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: way the judges. HAD it I Thought better beev did
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: enough to win. THIS one i thought he won the.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: FIRST fight i thought his aggression. Was enough but but,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: he's faded, you know he's he's faded some because as
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: Good as bivoll is as, a boxer and, you know
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: we've got To give bivill's chin some credit to the
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: guy's never. Been down and sometimes with boxers you can
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: tend to, miss that, you Know, like mayweather like, you
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: know as good of, a guy as defensively as. A boxer,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: you know when when a guy gets that far in
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: their career and they've never, been down especially, you know
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: he's a, light heavyweight so. UPPER weights, i mean you've
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: got to figure there's some. Chin THERE so i give him.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: THAT too, i mean he's he's probably not being given
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: enough credit for. His CHIN but i think Better be
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: of being a great light, heavyweight puncher even him at,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: this point he's probably not bringing enough sharp. Power anymore
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: you know where he's gonna Like drop bivol or, you
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: know just have him wobbling all over, The place like
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: if there's going to be a, THIRD fight, i mean
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: is that going to happen in?
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: A third Better?
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: BE of.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: I don't i don't. Think, so, so uh they're they're
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: talking like we're going to get to Start. In turkey
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: alashic had said That if, bivon won he, was. Yeah
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: three but, you know her is a pretty good judge
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: of what fighters are. Gonna do he he may maybe
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: for a third even he's not looking at better b
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: iv is that big of. A, threat yeah or like, you, said,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: maybe uh, you know have some other fight and then
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: try to Get the canelo fight now that you Know
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: he's messadi's for.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: FOUR FIGHTS i i hear what you're saying About. ABOUT
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: bivel i definitely didn't think he showed a bunch. Of
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: power but what my thing WAS is i think that
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: he answered back at times with punches that were you could.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: SEE landing, i agree they weren't. Power punches he didn't
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: like stand in his ground and land these huge punches
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: that had better be. Next snap and but compared to the,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: FIRST fight i thought he flurried back and would stemy him,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: at times and he did to win that kind. Of fight,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: you know we talk about for the, outside boxer you
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: have to outland. The guy, you're like that's the. First,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: thing like if you're not outlanded, THE guy i don't
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: care how many punches that. Guy's throwing you have to
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: outland them if you're going to have. That style and,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: he did and OF course i thought he jabbed a little.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Bit better, but overall to, your point he wasn't, you
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: know he wasn't, Hurting THEM and i do think and
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: it wasn't accumulation of. Punches either for why better be a.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Slow DOWN so i do agree with YOU that I
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: think i could meet you halfway. ON that i just
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: think that he finally answered the bell sometimes rather Than
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: just i'm not going to, do anything, you know because
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: the way he did it the last three rounds or
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: whatever throughout the last floor in the first fight was, like,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: wow dude and you could tell it was. BUGGING him,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: i mean he talked about it all the time AND
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: and i didn't believe that he would throw, more punches to,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: BE honest i. REALLY did i thought it was. Just
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: talk but he did throw, more punches he. Landed MORE
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: so i definitely give. Him credit like, you said the
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: chin that that's a good point because it's it's very.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: Underrated chin, BUT yeah i mean it's only fair that
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: you know that better be of gets a, you know
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: gets another if he wants it to get his to
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: get his. Shot back he won the, first one lost the. Second,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: one well, you know it's only fair to get him a.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Shot back but it is one of those things where
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: you're like some of us thought we didn't necessarily need
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: to see. The rematch and now it was a, good
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: fight but it wasn't a. Great fight, you know and
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: we saw Improvement, from beval but it still wasn't LIKE like,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: I said i didn't HAVE have i didn't have it
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: seven to five. For PEOPLE if i had one, seventy
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: five it would be for for Better BE if i,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: HAD it i had it about a, draw REALLY but
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: i do want, my. Scorecard HABIT if i have a,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: seven five it is the better. Be of but overall
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: a very. Entertaining card it's too, bad that, you know
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: we lost that that heavyweight fight because that that was really.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Anticipating that so hopefully du bois maybe they'll go RIGHT,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: to usk, MAYBE not i. Don't know, but overall just
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: talking about the card in general AND how i, don't
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: know it's it's a it's gonna be a weird thing because,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: you know the last the, last year we've SEEN the us.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: Get affected, right now some of that is our, own,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: doings right some of. It's not some of, those fights
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: like this main event wasn't, Happening anyway so that's perfect for.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: That type and by the time the heavyweight you know
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: here and even IN the uk to, an extent had
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: kind of run its course and we did need to
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: finally see that put all the damn. Belts together we got,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: two guys they're. Both unbeaten make. The fight and so
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: that what he did with the, HEAVYWEIGHT division i think
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: that was, ideal too because it actually had the fights
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: going and it's been a big brown, robin almost you
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: KNOW what. I mean so he's done a great. Job
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: there now when you move Into the, canalo thing three
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: out of the four Fights, in sadi who are the
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: opponent's going? To be They, mentioned shiraz, you know for,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: next year even before he won, a fight and that.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: Can't happen if, it is that's. A JOKE but i
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: still LIKE the i. DON'T know i. JUST don't i
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: don't know how we're gonna grow the sport taking it
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: away FROM the US. And uk and if you're gonna take,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: IT away i do like. Their idea he's already said
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: For both canelo fights that they're gonna be in prime
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: time here, time wise so. That's smart but, you know
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: they put all that the we talked, about this they
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: put all that money into the commercials and, those man
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: some of those commercials have. Been phenomenal you can pretty
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: much say they're gonna be quality. Every time but if
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: nobody's seeing it Besides, on twitter it. Really doesn't it's
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: just a waste. Of money so it's kind, of like,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: you know THAT'S what i really liked About that august
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: card is the fact that you had it on his
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: own but you hold it also had IT On espn
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: plus and you had It. On amazon and if you
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: don't want to do like, a time here's. The Thing
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: saudi arabia, bought, golf right they get they invested enough
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: to where they own. It now now may that probably
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: would have happened at some, point anyway but they only
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: had a deal WITH. The, cw right they didn't have
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: a deal with all those. Other channels SO the pga
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: could have fought that off for a couple more years
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: because they at Least, had yeah you lose, some talent
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: but you also have the, main broadcasters NOT. THE cw
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: i remember THEIR first. Cw event they didn't even finish
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: the damn thing and they went to a different show
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't. Even over, it's like what the hell is?
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: This shit? You know so my thing IS and i
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: know golf is more popular, than boxing Especially when tiger,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: was going but like like On a sunday afternoon on a.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: Big tournament a lot of people are, gonna watch, you
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: know but what if. You're not if you don't want
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: to do a, time, buy right then do it like on.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: A network then do a time by which they're. Still
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: available if you look at the guide and see what's
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: going on On a Saturday or sunday afternoon, or whatever
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: it's still available to be able to, do that or
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: or do it do a time Buy with amazon or something,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: like that you KNOW what, i mean some sort of advertising.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: That WAY and I just I think i keep getting,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: this PUSHBACK and i think people are looking at it
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: from a a hater point, of view or well this
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: or that. Or that, you know it's always got to
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: be this promotion of that. Platform whatever it's just the,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: point is it's like we keep hearing that it's the
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: growth that's gonna happen off. Of it but how do
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: you leave your key markets And grow That's where That's where.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: I'm lost, oh yeah and that's where there's, no strategy
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: right especially WITH. The us he's just not he's just
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: not putting anything out there designed for DESIGN for. US sensibilities,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: i agree he's done a really good job with, the
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: heavyweights and, you know the Lack of. American heavyweights That's
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: not Turkey al, sheik's problem THAT'S a us. General problem
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: so it's not as. Bad there and like, YOU said,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: i mean nobody here was going to, NECESSARILY well i
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: know they Did have Vodstick and Better be HAVE. On
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: espn it did not do the rating you would have
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: hoped for.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: A, fight like but they weren't going to do, that fight,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: you know whether as political, or not because remember then
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: it became political because of the war and just all
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: sorts of stupid reasons why the fight, wasn't, HAPPENING right, i.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: Agree it wasn't going. To happen nobody was going to do.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: It here, so, yeah exactly you're not really hurt for
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: the hardcore boxing fans when you. Do that at least
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: this was a lower pay per. View, COST yes i
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: think we've been so far away. From it but, you
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: know like one thing that was positive about, this card
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: it wasn't marketed that WAY for. Us SENSIBILITIES but i
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: was even saying This When top rank was picking up
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: some Of the, british stuff, you know like like and
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: this was.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: Even better like so, this card, you know the.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: Only like kind of filler you had Was Just padley
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: Stevenson because padley had to come in as a, late
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: opponent and that was really nobody's. Particular fault they that
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: intentionally what. Was good So what i'm saying was good
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: EVEN though i started watching At eleven eastern IN. The
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: us but, you know it went by kind. OF quick
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: i didn't have to complain some others had because it
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: wasn't a bunch of garbage. Showcase fights, i'm like what
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: the FUCK am i? Watching here, You Know like, I'M
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: like i could go be doing. Something, else look and,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: you know we're, completely hardcore, you know we comment on the.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: Score and, like It and i'm just confessing it happens.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: To me i'm a, human being, you know even though,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: you know fanatic AND like i didn't have to deal
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: with That. This saturday, Like yes and, you know the
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: pacing got better as the card.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 6: Went on once the main card, came up the pacing
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 6: was then the pacing started. Looking up it was better
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 6: than these. Usually Are and, i'm like, you Know like
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 6: i'm not feeling.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: Like this is a long day Or like i'm wasting
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: time because it's like competitive. Odds matchups they're coming one
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: right after the other and then you didn't have to
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: stay up till three o'clock in the boarding, of.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: These but you had enough time, TO go i have something,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: to eat or go to the bathroom or, you know
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like you're. Rushing time, really, Well yeah i'm.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: Just saying like there's some, potential there like, you KNOW like,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: i mean even, for ratings if it was, marketed differently,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: Like so, i'm like, you know even though it's, ALL unusual,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: i mean if and if you really were real clear
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: about when each fight was going to start for people
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: that maybe did just want to focus in on, CERTAIN ones,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: i mean there's some, potential there especially when you, are
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: streaming because you don't have to worry about like like
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: there's always there's always. Broadcast availability when, you're streaming, you
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: know you don't have to compete with something else or
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: what we're going to put on. That time you're, gonna
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: well you're going to compete with, other STUFF but i
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: mean you don't have to compete like BE on espn
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Where an overtime game goes and that they're not going
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: to put.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: On boxing That's what i'm talking, About exactly like you
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: don't have to deal with any of. That CRAPPITY so
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: i see some, potential there like like if it just
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: flipped to where it started getting marketed IN, the us and,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: you know maybe that maybe the main events were starting like,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: you know, seven o'clock eight o'clock.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: At, night yeah after you had, the day but it
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: was all.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: Competitive, matchups yeah, might not, Might not might not be
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: bad because, you know you go back to the seventies,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: And eighties Saturday afternoon sunday afternoon boxing did extremely well IN.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: The us you're talking about a, different era but but.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: It did so it's it's not it's it's not, like impossible.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: And we're USED to uk during, THE day us. At night,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: you know in the last five to, eight years that's,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: increased too where, you're, like hey that was a, GOOD
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: card i got a, little gap and now our, card starts, you.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: Know right my argument is what? What's obsolete and it just,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: shows THAT like i can change in that, way too
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: because we had this for a.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: Long TIME but i have been saying this.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: For years what's obsolete IS This us saturday night idea
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: that you gotta run these things late IN the us
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: Late and saturday Night one saturday night's the least night
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: watch NIGHT. Of tv yeah, it is so you know
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: that's just. A fact so you're, always boxing, you're subjecting
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: and then you're going to hours In The east coast
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: where nobody's watching compared, to normal like.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: And if you don't have a quality lead in then it.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: Falls apart, you know can anyway if you did a
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: tripleheader or.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: Something right and it's, live sports so, even though like
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: we're saying, in boxing you cannot. Find out but but
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: the gambling companies want people watching. IT live, i mean,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 3: You Know draft kings is all. Over now they're starting
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: to make their first. Big profits but, that matters like,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: you know they're, a big, big sponsor so like Like To,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: draft kings what matters is people watching, it live like they,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: you know they want it for, the bedding, you know
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: they want you like, you know if you're if your
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: main events starting one thirty in, the morning like that's
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: not Great, For, DraftKings, like hey, you know we could
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: have a lot more people, watching, live right you know
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 3: if this fight was starting at nine o'clock On the east,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: you know you know sometime where it's not too Early For.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: West coast there's your BALANCE but i know that time
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: is not starting at one o'clock in the morning In
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: the east or eleven. Thirty pm so, you know that
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: to me is. What's obsolete and you know they did
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 3: that for, thirty years but but. THAT'S obsolete i Mean
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: that saturday night stuff with the late In. THE east
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: i mean BECAUSE then ufc did, It too but it's
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: not there's. No lot there's not there's. No lot there's
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: actually no logic. To it there.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Really, isn't yeah and we've even seen some of those late.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: Night shows even if, it had it had to have
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: a really big lead in otherwise of its just an
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: average LEADING for espn. Or whatever the first fight will
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: get the biggest boost and then then it will the
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: ratings will.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: Go down, You're, right well there. Was one there was.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: One logic let me say because IN the us this
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: is the one they didn't. Talk about but this was
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: the real logic because IN, the us You, know vegas,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: you know they were basically the Equivalent Of turkey Ala
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: chic vegas paying. Site fees she has outbid, them basically
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: you know where that money is. Not enough but when
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: they were doing the, site fees, you know if you
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: went Out. To vegas and this was before you had
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: also legalized sports betting almost everywhere like you. Have now
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: that's a good but even though they were focused on,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: their casinos but still, you know, you know you couldn't
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: bet on, sports everywhere and like you can now what they,
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 3: wanted though, is this like, you Know and i've been
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: too many Fights in vegas where, this happened and that was.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: WHAT'S good i could see how this work business wise for,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: the casinos like In In west, coast time you know
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: there you were coming back out to the casino at
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: Like and i've con bested my, younger days it's small
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 3: advantage of that like. Everybody else and it. WAS packed
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: i mean like you, flowed in a mob flowed in
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: to watch. The fights you come out to the casino
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 3: at ten o'clock time and you're going all, you know
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: you're going all. Night there so, you know they they've got,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: you know twelve thousand people flowing out into, you know after,
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: The fight like that was a big part of their
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 3: thinking where wanted people coming out into the casino where
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 3: they're going to be up, late anyway but then you
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: know they're coming out. Prime time, you know still we're
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: prime time, still going you know after. THE fight i
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: know that was a real big part of, their motivation
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: so they wanted but like like, that stuff, to me
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: it's more, obsolete now like it is a lot. Different
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 3: places let's, let's like because now you've got like fans
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 3: and promoters locked, in like, oh no we need to
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: do This late saturday, night thing and like, YOU know
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 3: espn even probably blew that top rank deal and or
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 3: vice Versas top rank BLOWING the espn deal with all
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 3: that kind of, you know fights Starting The east COAST
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: on espn at one o'clock in the morning. And stuff, you,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: know yeah that that's. All obsolete so it's because of
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: the different. Time zone but that's the ONE thing i
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 3: like About the turkey, thing too not, the one but
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: one of the OTHER things i like is it maybe
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: is a little bit of an opening to force force
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: out of the habit of that Late night saturday night
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: you know, us thing which.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: Is, obsolete yeah because even when they start the the
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: pay per views here at eight year time rather, than
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: nine that even makes, a difference, you know and you're kind, of,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: like wow that's. Pretty good and even, you KNOW when
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: pbc had a network most of that stuff started at,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock eight o'clock, year time you KNOW what. I
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: mean so that. Was different you Didn't have fox CARDS
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: or nbc cards going till eleven or twelve or, you
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: know one in the. Morning either, but, yeah yeah. You're
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: right it's a funky thing because for So long saturday
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: nights have been, the thing and obviously from a promoter
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: perspective as far as, selling tickets, you know afternoon shows
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: aren't going to do. As good wednesday nights aren't gonna do.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: As good thursday nights aren't gonna. You know so It's
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: a it is a. Funky thing it's a really. Funny
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: thing but, then again there's times where it has nothing
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: to do with the, ticket sales and it could be
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: just a live gate or not a, live gate but like,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: you said, a fee but not FROM, the mgm just
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: some small casino where it's like one hundred thousand people
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: and it looks like a half filled, all right that
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't get any, atmosphere either. You know, so yeah so
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: that They have on, one hand you can SAY what
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: i mentioned about the ticket sales, And whatnot but on the,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: other hand many times you've seen them throw away the
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: gate and not give a shit about it and just
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: get that two hundred thousand dollars so they can go
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: to that and so they at least have a little bottom.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: Line whatever, so, yeah no especially the late. LATE stuff
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: i mean it Does like i'm a. Night all but
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: overall On the east coast, with that, you know amount of,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: population there there has been some really late ones and
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: it seemed like it kept getting later. And, later, Yeah
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: later so, you're right that is that, has improved and
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: it's just like the product, is there it just needs
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: to be shut. Seen more and, you know the last,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: Few years i've gotten a lot of messages and talk
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: to people FROM the uk and how it Wasn't just
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: saudi at. The time it was, you know different parts
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: Of The, Middle east dubai and all That that i've
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: taken some of. Those fights that's kind of like their version,
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: of it taking some of those fights away FROM. The
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: uk and the fans were pretty just up the last couple.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: Of years they've been pretty pissed off because they, come out,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: you know and it's a. Great environment AND so i
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: saw that HAPPENING and i was a little. Bummed out
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: and then now you see it here and you're, like
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: okay like, OF course I just i don't think fans
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: understand like when, they, say well boxing's, moving, east dude, it's,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: LIKE okay i, hear you but? Is that how is that? Happening?
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: Though like is that do you get away from? Your
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: core can't you grow and do both since you're not
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: worried about? MONEY anyway i just THINK it, I said
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: i bring Up time by only because it is, an
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: option but Also time By on amazon, or whatever. YOU
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: know I just i just think to have that that type, of,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: card man it's anybody that sees it that's a boxing fan, is,
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: like wow this is better THAN any Ufc thing i've
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: seen because they're full, big fight. You KNOW so I
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: just I just i think he's doing. RIGHT on, i mean,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: this is like, we said this about as good as
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: card as you're gonna. Get ever, IN fact i hate
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: to say it, like that but it might be the
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: best card that we'll ever, see again, You.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: KNOW yeah i mean except we who would have thought
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: we would have. Gotten this it's, you know it's starting
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: to seem like Now the zone's, still involved but it's
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: starting to seem like a different version of what the
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: zone was doing a few, years ago not That the
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 3: zone was given us this kind, of matchups but kind
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 3: of like the over paying and then see if it.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: Catches on that didn't work, for them. That crashed let's,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 3: face it that crash for them a few. Years back
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 3: the matchups were nothing, like this but it was that
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: kind of. An attempt so it's kind of a different cast,
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: to characters but With the zone still involved to a
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 3: degree not and the fights not being just exclusive, to
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: them but them being the main, broadcast partner.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: You know so and now they're bought into the zone
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: like that's.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: Right, home yeah so is the overpay thing going to
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 3: work again or you know work, this time, didn't work
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: didn't work in, the past.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: And this is like, beyond overpay. YOU know, I mean
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: i remember people complaining About uh Thurman and porter both
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: making a million dollars ON, the, cbs right and they're
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: saying this. ISN'T sustainable.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: I haven't heard the CRIMES that usk making one Hundred
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 3: or fury making one hundred, four MILLION in usk making
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty, two million it's. Not sustainable how
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: dare they pay these guys? As much we, Haven't heard
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: we haven't heard that Directed.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: Twenty meanwhile they're. Doing ratings we hadn't done it about fifteen, eighteen,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: Years right and it.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 3: Was yeah because that was what. WE needed, I mean
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 3: pbc had the right. Idea there it was Just as
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 3: i've said, many times the overall atmosphere and competition of
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: the sport was hard to keep DOING what. I what
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: i'm pretty SURE that i know they were trying. To,
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 3: do yeah you know when they were still on that
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: mode where they were trying to. Do, that yeah sure
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: you Didn't got Thurman and porter getting a real, good rate, You, know.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's like they took a stab, at
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: it and, it's like look at the look at what,
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: they did and also the potential to build on that
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: if it if it were, To happen and That's what,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: I'm saying like it just to not, tap in whether
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: it's stream or broadcast. Or WHATEVER like i just don't
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: understand why they can't, get it even like that first Twenty,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: nineteen uh they had that fall season commercial where they
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of good fights in a row and
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: that shit was. On NORMAL like i saw the commercial twenty.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: Of times it. SPARKED interest i was getting text messages like,
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: oh okay so that ok SO if i Bought the
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: zone for, this amount, you KNOW and i don't know
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: it just h it is.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: What it there Were the zone gift cards out In.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: The yeah. THAT'S right i almost forgot, about.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 3: That yep, but yeah well that that's ONE thing i was.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 3: Gonna tide ONE thing i was just, gonna, ADD like
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 3: i don't know if they've got enough left in. The
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 3: tank no, pun Intended since tank's fighting, this weekend but,
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 3: you know with top ranks gonna at least for momentarily
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 3: being exiting the field.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 4: This SUMMER On.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: Espn broadcasting, you know the PBC's Got a fundora Card.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 3: On amazon it's not a, great Card but fundora is
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 3: an entertaining guy normally.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 4: To watch he's gotten.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 3: Some exposure then they JUST announced i don't know what
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: time they're going to put, it On but zeke's gonna
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 3: come Back Against joey Spencer. And australia it's what, You've,
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: said chris YOU and i, have said so people. Don't,
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 3: misunderstand look it doesn't sometimes matter what you think of
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 3: these guys. As boxers they can sell better because they've
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: been seeing more and, you know if you don't think,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: that's fair start pushing for your favorite guy to get,
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: seen more because the guys that get, seen more, you
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 3: Know like joey's. Adds up it was on box. A lot,
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: You know zoo got a lot of. Showtime push he just.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 3: Got upset but it was On. Regular amazon, you know
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: there certainly was action in. The Fight. People america boxing
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: was more Popular in america than when his dad. Was
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: fighting he caught here a lot who he is, just
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: saying like whatever you think, About it like that's that's
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 3: actually like the type of thing unless you're going to
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 3: Be paying turkey aloy kind. Of numbers to put those.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: Matchups together you have to get those guys who've, been seen,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: you know somebody knows who. They are then you maybe
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 3: put a couple of guys in a good fight on
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 3: the undercard who you want to. Get seen but like
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 3: you got to get some guys that are going, to like,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: like again whatever people think of, The fight I'M like
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 3: i saw that. Like yesterday, i'm like you, Know, What
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 3: Zoo joey Spencer. Regular amazon if it's it's gonna Be,
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 3: in australia but if they time it where.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 4: It's on a decent. Time here.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 3: You know That's. On amazon you know that's On regular
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 3: amazon for, you know, to speak if You, got amazon
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: you get or to make it where you get, it
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: anyway so some people could. See that, You, know fondora
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 3: you know he's gotten. Some exposure it's not the best card,
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 3: or matchup but it's still a guy who. Could Draw
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 3: like i'm, just saying like we're in. Desperate, straits yeah,
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 3: you know YOU and i are. Both FRUSTRATED like pbc
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: was In this, amazon deal but nothing was On regular
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: amazon except The one. ZOO fight i was very skeptical
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 3: and you, were, Saying well lespinosa saying he might. Do,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: Some well i'm a. Little surprised. That's two like in,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 3: other words we only. Got one we only got one all. Last,
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: year yeah now we're gonna apparently have two by like
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: the first Week. Of, april right if they if they
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 3: stay with that and and give more and get some
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: of maybe THE old pbc guys that are, still around
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 3: who've gotten some exposure and on, some events, you know
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe if they're if they still want to, Do
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: it Like if i'm, just, saying like if the heart's
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 3: still THERE, for pbc try to. Make it, you know
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 3: maybe you can start regaining a little bit of. Traction
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 3: here since top rank is Gonna be i'll predict it's
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: based somewhat on evidence and then somewhat are just. My
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 3: speculation i'm gonna guess top Rank will i'll have a
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 3: max stream thing here and there with some Fights, on
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 3: turner you know THAT group T. And T but i
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 3: don't think it'll be a. Big deal that's. MY prediction
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 3: i don't think they.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: Do have extra money now WITHOUT. The, nba yeah and
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: they bought up those college. Football games they bought up something.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: With tennis they bought up something, Else too, SO.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah i don't know what they're push, will Be but
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: i'll predict that's where they're gonna. End up that's where
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 3: that's gonna. END up i could see, that coming which.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: Is better than, the, Zone right.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 4: And that's what people don't.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: Get exactly like That's what i'll argue with people all
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: the time of like some people. Get it, you know
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 3: there are some people to get it like, we do
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: but some people just don't UNDERSTAND because i always have
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 3: to have this debate, with them like you just don't.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: Get it nobody seeing this guy you're talking about on
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 3: his own IN.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: The us If if jane little fight's a free fight
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: like he did a couple of times and it doesn't hit,
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: a million, YOU know i don't know What else i'll
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: tell you right, like that, you KNOW it's, I mean i.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: Don't know but IN the a you wanted, it back, you,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: know boxing they want him BACK on hbo where there.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: You go That's what. I'M thinking I think i don't
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: think it'll be a, big PUSH but i, think, that
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 3: yeah they actually will probably promoted a bit like that
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: when they have the Ones. On mac we've got a
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 3: boxing tradition here and it's they'll probably use that as
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: a little bit of the hype. Of, THAT sure i
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 3: don't think it'll be A REAL like, I said i
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: don't think it'll be a really big deal probably with
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of. Real FREQUENCY but i think that's probably
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 3: where they'll, end up would be.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: My guess and it would be ideal if they somehow
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: ended Up on AMAZON and Pbc and, top rank could,
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: you know coexist on. That platform but like, you said that's,
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: you know that's that's just, being hopeful.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 3: You, know yeah at THIS point i agree with you
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: that would probably almost be better at, this point if
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: something like that would, BE better i THINK if i agree,
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: with you would. Be better i'm guessing On That turner max.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: Type deal that's.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: A good that's. A good i think that's A fair
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: i think that would put that beyond. A guess i
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: think you're right. About THAT that, i HOPE but I
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: think i think that's that. Makes sense that makes sense
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: because they do they have the, content too you know
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: that they can put on there that that's part of
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: all their fights that. They've done they can move that
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: OUT of espn plus and put it, on there so
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: that that's a commodity value. Right there maybe it's not
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: as much as it was five or ten years ago
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: because they are starting to tighten. Their strings, you Know
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: besides Netflix, and amazon everybody else is tightening their strings
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: majorly as we found Out. With paramount, so yeah that
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: would be, you know what would be ideal is if
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: they had a Spot a saudi sponsor in top RANK
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: on Pbc. On amazon now. You're talking now, you're cooking
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: because if you can make, you know some of those extra,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: big fights like, you said if You put Gervonte and Stevenson,
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: On amazon i'm not even saying that's what.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 3: We need but that's what we. Need, something yeah.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: Straight up would. Be awesome but even just having it
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: on there and doing a twenty five dollars pay per
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: view right like that would? Do that would that would?
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: Do something?
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: So well one, POSITIVE thing I mean benavitez was at The, Fight,
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: SATURDAY yeah, i, mean yeah she did have him in so,
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: you know he talks About, al hayman so you know he,
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: he yeah he does.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: Mention him so and he's done business, WITH him, i mean. Right,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: car yeah and a couple of Fighters in august were on,
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: the card, you, know So and wilder was on two cards.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 3: Yep ye, SO yeah i mean that is a good
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 3: thing About the Turkey how chic two probably be maybe
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 3: even for me as a. Boxing man the best, thing,
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: is like, you, know finally after all, these years we
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 3: can get back to like talking about like a matchup
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: like like, You know Benevitez fighting bivol or something, like
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 3: that like it. Can happen it used to, be, Like well,
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 3: i'd say it's just stop talking about that because we
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: know that's.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: Not you that's, the, Point right there was.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 3: No point there really.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 4: Wasn't like it just wasn't. Gonna happen but.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: You know like now you can kind of like talk
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: about all these different possible matchups and like. They might
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: they might happen as long as, you Know the saudi's
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: keep putting out.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: This, money yeah AND and i remember back then getting
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: a bunch of which isn't that, long ago but getting
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: a bunch of, you know shit for talking about in.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: House fights but, it's, like dude that's what, we. Had
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: right if you want to keep, your deal you gotta
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: you gotta make them make as many in house fights as.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: You could so it's not that we favored in, house
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: fights it's just that's the scenario they. Were in so
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: if that's, your scenario you got to make your deal
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: and keep, your deal then frickin make your, fights then
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: and then you can figure out if you, build up,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: you know enough, two guys then you put. Them together
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: and we've seen that, happen too so, but yeah that,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: you know not not relying on the in house fight
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: in getting it to where, you know, top five top
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: ten fighters can, consistently fight and That's what sadi. Ultimately
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: brings you know that that does help the sport as
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: long as it, gets eyes, you, know, yeah exactly as
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: long as it, gets sides that's what's going to be. Worked.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: On yep so, you know pretty much Everybody thinks tank is. Gonna,
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: WIN yeah, i mean his fights have a way of
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: playing out in. The ring uh not, every time but
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: a fair amount, of times depending on who. He's fighting,
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: of course he does take, his time we, know that
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: and he to the point where he'll, lose rounds. You
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: know so it's weird because come, fifth round all of,
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: a sudden the thoughts you had on the fight and then, you're,
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: Going wow Lamont's, doing okay, hang ON now i have
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: him down in, this fight and so all of a
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: sudden it kind of lures you in and then all of, a,
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: sudden bam, You know. Tank delivers and that's kind of
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: how his fights have played out in. Recent years whether
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: he was up at forty seven or thirty five, or
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 1: whatever a fair amount have. DONE that, i guess really
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: didn't have a whole lot. Of success but, You Know,
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: Lamont roach i've always said about this FIGHT that i
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 1: think people are, Downgrading him but in the, SAME breath
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: i would never call this A matchup i'm looking, forward
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: to like, oh man there's, you know, three different you
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: KNOW reasons i can give You why lamont. Could win
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: blah blah. Blah blah that's about the ONLY thing i
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: really think about this FIGHT is i Do Think lamont
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: roach is a better fighter than people are getting. Credit
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: for BUT that's i can understand because you're going against
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: a well known fighter who's a. Top FIGHTER so i
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: expect him to win some rounds and then that's. About it.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: YOU know i think it'll play out very similar To
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: how tank fights, play out some of the UNDERCARD action.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: I do we said it a couple of. Weeks ago
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: they're gonna need this undercard, to pop like to feel
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: good about the night at the end of, the night
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: Like if tank scores his highlight knockout and then, you're
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: like you, KNOW what i got like three pretty good.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: Fights there, you know they're really gonna need this undercard,
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: to pop and, you know like a, Play, you martin,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: you know. Play you we've seen him throw his, hands
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: more but we've seen him in stale. Fights, Too obviously
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: martin can really slow down, the pace you KNOW what.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, good fighter both of them. Good fighters martin's
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: a good fighter and, all That BUT i'm i think it'll,
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: be COMPETITIVE but i am wondering how that style is gonna,
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: you know. Work out i'm pretty shaky on. That one
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: But the vellan's Whale of russell, to me THAT like
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: i wish that was like a main event On on prime.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 3: Straight up that's the one. Good fight, to me that
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 3: is a. GOOD fight, i mean, YOU know I, Know tank,
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 3: tank's popular but. This card eighty bucks not not a
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 3: believer in. THIS one I, mean russell, You know valenzuale
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 3: is a really. Good, FIGHT yeah i mean that's a
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: main event type, Caliber fight so you. Get that, But
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 3: myself i've never really been Impressed.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 4: By roach.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 3: He's just never, you know it doesn't bring, much pop,
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 3: you know but he's just never really his, whole.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 4: Career he's never impressed me.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: That Much so i'm looking at, that, one like, YOU
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 3: know i, DON'T think i DON'T put i Don't think
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: roach is as Good As.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 4: Frank martin, so.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 3: No no it's, YOU know i think you made a.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 3: Good point tank might be. At this, you know he's
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 3: got such A high. Ko percentage, you know maybe if
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 3: he can providing highlight, reel knockouts he's getting to be
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 3: one of those type fighters where people are going to
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 3: be somewhat content with that as long as it's a
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 3: HIGHLIGHT Reel ko and, you Know if tank does not have,
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: ANY slippage i would think that this is a fight
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 3: he's going to do that In because roach has got
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: nothing to hold him.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: Off with, and yeah the power thing is.
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 4: A problem roach has never impressed me.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 3: That much so you know that that You got mattaeas
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 3: who's always in, action fights pretty. Solid favorite you know he,
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 3: should win but he's at that he's coming off, a
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: loss and then he's at that advanced age for his
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 3: STYLE where i could SEE where pbc might get lucky
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 3: for lack of a, better word and get a good
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: fight out. Of that but THEN where i got to
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: go on, the DOWN and I think Pueo, and martine
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 3: that's a. DREADFUL matchup i Mean, BOTH arnold I mean
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: martin stinks to. Place out let's just. FACE IT yea
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 3: ceo is not an action fighter by. Any means he's
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't bring a lot of, pop BOXES and, i think
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 3: really that's probably a bad matchup for Like. Sandor martin
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: like then just even fighting another guy, like that it's
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 3: probably a bad matchup, for, Him, RIGHT like i don't
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: think this is going to be a real. GOOD fight
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: i think this is going to be an. AWFUL fight
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 3: i think you, KNOW this i Think isn't martin supposedly
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 3: some kind, of alphabet, you know, like dessert, you know
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 3: getting pushed for a shot because like that that the
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 3: promoters to me shouldn't even play. Ball with but it's
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: just that even outside, Of that Like what i'm saying, is,
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 3: like look you're a kind of on thin ice with
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 3: this card Undercard with tank Even, though russell, you know
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 3: And and valenzuale is, really good but that's just. One
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 3: fight like like, to me this to me is a matchmaking,
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 3: Head scratcher like why the hell would you put this
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 3: fight on a pay per?
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: View card it is FOR, The, wbc.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah and THAT'S where i think.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 3: It is and, like that, TO me i think it
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 3: is time for a rent on that because that's where that,
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 3: Comes in like you shouldn't be playing ball with. These
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 3: alphabets and this is all. The promoters i'm not JUST. Saying,
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 3: Pbc YEAH like i ALWAYS give pbc credit for ignoring
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 3: them for, a year but but then. THEY caved hbo
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 3: did that for a long, time too and. They caved
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 3: but this is part of the problem when you, cave like,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 3: oh well this IS the, wbc mandatory we'll just put
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 3: this on. A card this is not what you want
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 3: to give your fans on an eighty dollars pay per,
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 3: view card because when everybody's falling, asleep already you know
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 3: early when this comes on and this is the kind
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 3: of thing this literally. Does happen and this is what
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 3: we talk about pacing and where there's a problem like
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: now this is a close, Odds fight i'll give, it
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: that but.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah yeah it's. It's close but this.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 3: Is where match two things got to come in matchmaking
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 3: and ignoring, the alphabets like you, can't say, oh WELL
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: the wbc, is saying we gotta have Stand, and, martine
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 3: look you gotta think of your. FAN base, i mean
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna stick, you know this is the
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 3: one you. STICK on i don't care if THERE'S a wbc.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 3: Belt involved this is the one you put on YouTube at.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: Five, o'clock, sure yeah.
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 3: Hey hardcore you want to watch this for free on
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 3: YouTube at. Five o'clock we gotta then go to town
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 3: with your alphabet. DoD sets we GOT a wbc bad
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 3: dated title. Fight here you're gonna get it for free
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 3: on you to do something, Like that but putting this
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 3: on your main pay per, VIEW card i mean you're
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 3: gonna have people frustrated and going to sleep right off.
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 3: THE bat i mean THIS is i feel almost certain
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be a.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: TERRIBLE fight i mean play you would really have to
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: throw a pharao amount. Of combinations and like, you SAID
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: and i said, it too IT'S a I mean i'm
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: looking at. The odds it. Is tight it's, On, paper
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: yeah it is a. Good matchup it's a it's a
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: worthy matchup for the weight class and all that taking
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: away all the belt stuff minus. One thirty, BUT yeah
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 1: i mean it has that lean in one way or.
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: The other you're definitely leaning towards it could really and
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: then you're looking at twelve rounds of, it too not
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: even ten rounds.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 3: Of it, YOU know i think it'll be a really.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 3: Bad FIGHT but i think it's a BAD like i
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: think facing another great boxer like that who's not that
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: aggressive but who does have a little better offense than
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 3: him is a bad Matchup. For, martin, yeah yeah LIKE
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 3: so i think it'll. BE right i think it'll. BE
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 3: exactly i think it'll be, A STINKER but i think
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 3: you're going to have like play throwing two decent punches
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 3: for Every one. Martin, throw yeah a low number, that
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 3: is and getting a. Solid DECISION LIKE i I don't
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: i hate the. STYLE matchup i wouldn't put it on
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 3: a pay per, view CARD but i do think there's
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 3: some value to me in playo in the bedding at.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: That.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 3: Place, Yeah yeah i'm gonna throw that one, out, there,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: LIKE yeah i don't want to watch to fight, STYLE
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 3: wise I think i'm gonna put a little buddy on minus.
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 3: One twenty, I'M like i think that's a little bit
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 3: of a value for.
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: Me, THERE yeah, I, agree yeah that. That's THAT that's
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 1: i THINK it's i think we've kind of talked. About
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: that you, do have.
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 3: You, Do have.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 1: You'll It is taya is on. The undercard that's a
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: mismatch at. This, point yeah it's. A showcase it's.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 3: A SHOWCASE and i like tas a TON so i,
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 3: WOULD go i figure it's going to be a really,
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 3: bad ODDS but I think taya should get A k
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 3: o on.
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: THAT one i think.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 3: SO too i, don't like, YOU know i don't. Like
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 3: THAT just i just don't Like that tayas is ready
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 3: for even more than that at, this point Even though
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 3: williams is, the name he's got. Nothing left you tried
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: hard against, the DAMIS but I just I don't i.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: Don't, KNOW yeah i wasn't kind of hit. Or, miss
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: yeah and he probably is due for, a miss. You.
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 3: KNOW yeah i think he's too too advanced of, an
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 3: age too. MUCH punishment, I mean i think speaking of
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: because he's on the. Car TOO and i hate seeing
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 3: IT because, i thought, to me that was the fight of.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 3: THAT year i DO think i Think the williams. Had
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 3: heard they it all out of each other in. That fight,
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 3: to me that was fight of, that year Was. On
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 3: fox and they both got. NOTHING left I mean i
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 3: heard he's a, slight favorite but you know he's got.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 3: NOTHING left i mean he's on the YouTube part or,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 3: you know the free, you Know free. Amazon whatever. YOU
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 3: know i wouldn't feel comfortable betting. On him.
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 4: That's LIKE what. Pbc does there's pros and cons.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 3: To that, You know we've always said THAT about pbc and,
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 3: you Know With, al hayman if you want. To fight
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 3: he's gonna let, you fight like, You know so there's
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 3: a freedom argument there for. The fighters, that's, good like,
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 3: you know you want to, keep fighting you're going to get,
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 3: a fight like he's gonna stick with you to give you.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 3: A fight but the re tread after, A, while yeah
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 3: the re tread when you guys, are shot you get
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: a little squeamish where, YOU'RE.
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 4: Like i don't KNOW if i want to see this guy.
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 3: FIGHTING anymore, i, mean yes And and heard and You
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 3: know williams at this point are in that category, for Me.
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 4: Especially.
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: Heard yeah and then if he does, do good, you're like,
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: oh boy, you know and here, we go he's gonna
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: get really hurt because, once again it is it is
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: a it's a it's exactly the same almost one thirty
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: minus one Thirty to mius one oh two in the
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: fight With The. Johann gonzalez so but it's, it's, LIKE
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: yeah i, DON'T know i.
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 3: Don't know i'm s greemish about those two guys. Still,
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 3: Fighting yeah so there's there's some things about THIS card
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 3: i Really as, i'm saying but it's just got to
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 3: say IT that i. DON'T like, I mean mattayas has
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 3: always got a chance to be in a big, action
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 3: fight so that, could happen, you know especially at, His
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 3: age he's going to continue to, be vulnerable but he always,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 3: brings it so, you know that could. BE entertaining i Do,
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 3: like russell, YOU know i Do like Russell.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 5: And.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 3: Valance, yeah yeah that's a. Tough pot how do you?
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: See that that's a really tough one because, YOU know
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: i think, a year year and a half AGO what
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: I Went, Gary russell but now, IT'S like i, don't know,
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: You know velanzuela looked a little. Bit better he's been
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit. More active, of course is, you know
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: he gotta, you know this is this is LIKE a
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 1: i guess you could kind of say the style matchup,
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: is similar but you know he's a full on one,
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: forty Pounder whereas pitbull clearly wasn't. YOU know I just
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: i think this one's gonna this is gonna be the
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 1: fight of.
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 3: The night it's gonna be the fight of. THE night
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 3: i think this will be a really. GOOD fight i
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 3: like both of these guys. A lot that's what makes
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 3: it hard for me. To PICK and i still think,
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 3: in essence both of them are still up and comers
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: at this point even haven't. Had set, yeah yeah and even,
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 3: being contenders. They're CONTENDERS but i still, THINK there i
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 3: still think there are two guys on the. Way up
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 3: that's what makes this. Really good this is not one
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 3: guy on the. Way down, to me this is two guys.
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 3: Still ascending in, MY opinion i like both guys. A
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 3: lot i'm SURPRISED when, I, said okay WHO am i
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: going to really go?
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 4: With here.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 3: IT'S tight i agree with the odds have just, about
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 3: even but a little almost. Surprised, Myself Yeah i'm i'm
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: giving a slight Edge to russell and for me. It's
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: this and YOU know i was on record here saying
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 3: that WAS one i. Got right it's tough to pick.
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 3: UP sets i Did pick vowlens Well. OVER tank i
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: excused Me, over cruise but and, you know he clearly
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 3: won the fight and he. Was effective but WHAT what
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 3: i even with even though he, you know was a
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: significant underdog and he got. The upset so GREAT performance
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: i Think, for valenzuelado, to me when he's at, his
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 3: best like as Tough as, pitbull is, you know His,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 3: power likens his power wasn't evident that night he was,
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 3: you know he was boxing him back, and OFF and
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 3: i don't think that is, his strength even though he got.
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 3: The WIN and i just saw if he could dropped
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 3: the power In on pittbull at all and, you know
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 3: just box like You Know, gary russell You Know. Gary
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 3: anchwine russell is more versatile than that and brings some
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 3: pretty good pop and he's not afraid to. Be aggressive
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 3: but he's got some VERSATILITY and i just think.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: He's gonna keep doing. It, too.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: YEAH exactly i just think like A boxing valensuhla, backing
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 3: off not getting, the leverage is not going to be Up.
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 3: Against russell and that's. Given me that's to my own
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 3: surprise a little BIT because I. Like valenzuela i'm given
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 3: a slight Edge To Gary anchoine russell for that reason
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 3: that like, you know we've seen, You know valenzuela against,
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 3: you know In that, colbert rematch, you know when, he
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 3: thought granted he was at, the end But still vargas
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 3: just a frightening ko like you. Know That and i'm
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 3: not saying that power is still, not there but like,
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 3: You know cruz is a smaller guy, than him even,
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 3: though aggressive like he couldn't set down and, you know,
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 3: REALLY yeah, i thought, you know he would be able
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 3: to do That. AGAINST cruise i did pick, the upset got,
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 3: it right but it was, a decision, you know and
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 3: that just troubles me a little bit that, you know
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 3: he felt he had to fight, that way like he
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 3: didn't have that faith in his, own power, you know
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 3: because he's got some real Power and i'm thinking that
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 3: that might carry Over against russell and be a problem
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 3: for Him because russell's not afraid to be aggressive and
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 3: you know if if, you know is going to be
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 3: backing off and not, you know just like we talked
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 3: About With callum smith where he got the instruction from
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 3: McGirt followed it like you can't keep getting backed off.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 3: Like that and, those tall leverage power guys get that
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 3: power that they need to who are. Good punchers so,
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 3: You know i'm Afraid that valenswale is going to do
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 3: too much of that in.
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 5: This, one yeah and you know he he should be
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 5: okay at one forty, power wise, you assume, you know because,
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 5: he's tall, he's lanky but it definitely.
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there but, maybe that like, you said that was
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: the style he was fighting AND maybe i. Don't, know
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 1: yeah this counter punching when he's in the pocket. Is something,
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: you know when he's, doing that it, is like, Whoa
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: dude this dude's got. Some pop, you know he's. Very
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: Skillful but, you're right when he's boxing, like THAT and
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: i can just see him getting swarmed and smothered and
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: right he just gary just, brings it, you know and
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: he'll just. Keep coming and sometimes he gets way too
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: loose and he'll throw. Wide punches and That's where, I'm,
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: thinking okay well about, YOU know, i mean, you, Know.
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 3: RIGHT yeah, i mean, you're right he's he's been leaving.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 3: HIMSELF open, i mean If valens will is not afraid
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 3: to come forward and, you know back rustle up some and,
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 3: get leverage, i mean he's got the power to take,
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 3: him out. You know but, you know just the way He,
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 3: Fought cruise i'm thinking within a Rest, Of russell I'M
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 3: just i just don't see him backing them off like
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 3: he like he. Needs, to yeah that being the difference,
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 3: for ME because i agree with the odds is a
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: very tough one.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 1: To. Call, yeah yeah it's it's gonna, be interesting that's.
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: For sure and we'll see if any of these other fights,
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: pop off because like we said even a month ago
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 1: that they would really need these underguard fights to have
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: you in, a good really like spirited move going into the,
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: main event, you know and of course coming off the. Co,
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: feature sure but just the whole the whole. Run up,
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: you know if at least three out of the five
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 1: fights would really have to turn. Into, something obviously the
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: one that's closed, on paper that's gonna, have to, you
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 1: know massively overachieve to be a fairly fun fight. To
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: watch it would have to. Really OVERACHIEVE and i, definitely wouldn't,
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: you know put my money, that way because these guys
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: are old, enough fighters and they fought some, good fighters
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: and they, they're, like hey this IS what i. Can
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 1: do this Is what i'm, gonna do, You KNOW and
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: i don't, blame them, You know AND like, i said
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: it's a worthy fight at the. Weight class it's a.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 1: Tight fight, but yeah stylistically, that style it. Could, be
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 1: yeah it could Be, really uh it could be a
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 1: long night because they both know how to just kind
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: of take the. Other way but you're right, about that.
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 3: And it's gonna.
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 4: Go twelve but that's the. Problem too alf of. That
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 4: stuff so, it's twelve so it schedule.
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 1: Ten to where it's not gonna be able to ramp
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: up a little bit in the, seventh day ninth if
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: it was only, tenth round, you, know yeah yeah THIS
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: actually i really wish this was a ten round or
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: now you put it, that way because, maybe maybe just
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 1: maybe there'd be a little burst near. The end, but
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 1: yeah now they're gonna have to. Make, it, yeah yeah
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: this it's it's probably gonna.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 3: Be ugly yeah that that that even money. For me
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 3: that's gonna. BE ugly i mean that's gonna. Be yeah,
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 3: or no that's a that's. A bite it's, ten thousand
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 3: it's going to be ugly to, be yeah.
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 1: And it's it's just it's, just uh it's. Just reality
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: like we're not hacking the, fight itself because like, you
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 1: said when you look at, the odds, hey man it.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: Is close it's. Very close, but yeah the style, match
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: up it's more likely it'll be a. Rough one so
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: NEXT week i want to uh discuss the the tournament
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: that THEY the wbc. Now announced did you hear anything.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 3: ABOUT that i heard a little bit that they were.
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 3: TALKING about i don't take them, seriously though so, you,
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 3: know RIGHT but. I did i did see them talk
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 3: about that. A.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: Bit yeah it, was like you have to be twenty six.
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: And under twenty six years. And under there's six and
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: eight round fights rather than eight and ten round fights
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: thirty something per. Weak class so this is it's actually
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 1: the opposite of what they. Were saying it's the prospect prospect,
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: to contender which, you, know hey maybe it'll, work out
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: but it's not anything like what was reported at all
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: when they were talking about the. Top FIFTEEN and i,
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see maybe they just gave up on
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: that idea and they're going with the prospect route and
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: this is how they're going to. DEVELOP prospect i, don't
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: know but that'll be something we can at. Least discuss
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 1: it's it's getting kind of later in the timeframe to
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 1: to bring up that because that's more of a rant or. Whatever. Opportunity,
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah it's a, little late especially On The east
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 1: coast to be getting diving, into that especially when they
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: just popped it out like is this the same tournament
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: or is this A different which tournament? Is this? You know, but,
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: yeah anyway any other items that you'd like to.
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 3: DISCUSS it i just want To say i'm interested because
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 3: they've been seen and we really. Need it WE need
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 3: pbc to do it just FOR the us sensibilities to get.
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 3: Some eyeballs just was yesterday Seeing That spencer zoo. Fight
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 3: announced i'm interested in it FOR the, us sensibilities getting
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 3: some viewers part, and uh you know a lot of
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 3: people like To. Knock spencer but ONE thing i think
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 3: you want to look At that. Rainos fight even though
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 3: he got, hurt early he. WAS dominated i think people forget.
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 3: Though too the fight got stopped when he was he
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 3: was throwing.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 4: BOMBS back i don't.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 3: Mean he was, coming BACK but i mean didn't quit
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 3: against the. Tough opponent just say that because, You know
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 3: i've Said about, spencer before having seen a LOT of,
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 3: pbc cards it seemed like he went as far as
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 3: he could be trained by. HIS father i had heard
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 3: talk that he was doing some. Things elsewhere but like,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 3: you know if he's just going to go into this
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 3: big fight and it's going to be his dad training
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 3: him in the, same, deal yeah it's gonna be hard to,
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 3: you know he's going Over, to australia gonna be hard
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 3: for him to turn all those. Things around but, you
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 3: know if he's got if he's got somebody else in there.
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 3: With him, you know he showed he wasn't Quitting, against
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 3: Ramos and zoo's coming off violently getting.
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 1: Beat, here, yeah yeah you don't know where his, head's
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: at right right.
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 3: Like like it COULD be i could see a scenario
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 3: where as a headliner On Regular, amazon prime this could
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 3: work OUT. For pbc, mm hm, you know especially maybe
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 3: back it up with some good undercard of maybe some
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 3: people you want to show and some interesting matchups at
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 3: least or something. Like that but at least it's the
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 3: second at least it's a second, free one so, to
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 3: speak announce for the YEAR where i was losing all hope.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: For that, so, yeah yeah. We'll see, All right thanks
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 1: a lot for stopping staying late. And whatnot appreciate it,
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: as always.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 4: Have a good week and enjoy the fights on, the, weekend.
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 1: Yes sir you. As well.
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 3: Take care, oh.
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, All right so just a little bit of news.
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 1: Item here so we do have let's, see here we
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: do have uh eduerdo hernandez In renee Telies. The tis we,
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 1: ALSO had i mean we we Actually That. Crocker donovan
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: that's a very close fight, on uh, on paper just
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 1: because we've done such a, you know we had so
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 1: much recap. And whatnot but that's on that's on. The
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 1: Zone The HERNANDZ jerome I actually I think i was
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: using this the different the different last name or both last,
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 1: names obviously so that, you know let's See EDDO hernandez
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 1: i do LIKE so i obviously he's favored. And whatnot
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: but that could be a. Good fight Uh That, crocker
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 1: donovan that's gonna be on. The zone that's IN, the
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: uk or it's in It's In, Northern ireland, belfast actually
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 1: so You have richardson in. McCrory McCrary that could be a.
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: Good fight that that is one to keep an. Eye
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: on And then Mattias. AND venezuela I think i think
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: he thought that that was on this card NOW that
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 1: i think. About it that's on the Zone on. Saturday
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 1: night zona has three Cards, one Friday one saturday or Two,
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 1: two saturday one during the afternoon when. At night, but
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 1: yeah as far as like those, FIGHTS go i definitely,
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 1: you know FAVOR like I, mentioned duardo but you, know
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 1: it They're the richardson McCrory's that pick him and same With, The,
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: Crocker Uh, patty donovan those are pick them really close fights.
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: Right there and, THEN yeah i DO think I, LIKE
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: mattias i am gonna kind of look at that Number,
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: with VELLEZUELA though i might be looking At That kenny
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 1: force a decision. Type thing i'm NOT totally i, don't
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: know but that's that's One where i'm kind.
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 8: Of.
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: Like, hm also we didn't talk, about It But junto
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 1: nakatani did his, thing, again right and, you know hopefully
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 1: by the end of the year we can get him in.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 1: Any way anyway says that he doesn't want to go
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 1: to one twenty six, this year so if he's gonna
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: be at one, twenty two then maybe one more you
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 1: know that unification that people are, talking about or just
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 1: you know that fight and then go you, KNOW that i.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 1: Hope anyway, Also, Tension uh Nashikawa. Beat maloney there WAS
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 1: a i think it's a kaya he. Got upset it
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 1: was a knockout. EARLY too i think it was what
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 1: the second round or something. LIKE that i didn't get
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 1: to see the. Full card we did have a DRAW
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 1: that i haven't seen The fight i'll Fully admit i'm
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: gonna watch that either tonight. OR tomorrow i just didn't
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 1: get time to. Do it but we did have, a
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 1: DRAW and i heard that it's not a that it
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't a, good draw let's put it. That way, but
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah junto nakatsani doing. His thing don't want to, forget
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 1: that because that dude's a really, Fun fighter AND like,
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 1: I said i'd really like to see that. Fight, Happen,
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 1: man like there's there's no reason why it. Shouldn't happen
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 1: they talked about it like they were gonna do it.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: This year nothing's happened to the point where. They can't you.
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 1: Know that that's kind of, my point, you know it's kind,
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 1: of like, all, right well nothing nobody, got hurt nobody's,
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 1: hurt hurt nobody's out for nine months or they tore
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: an acl or anything. Like that so let's get. To
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 1: it someone sent me this sky Sports by, OH actually
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 1: i screenshoted this one of the best, Rounds ever Round
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 1: Six Bawatsei. Callium smith this is Sky sports Boxing. On
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 1: twitter the round six one of the best. ROUNDS ever,
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: i mean, oh okay like good, good fight though very.
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 1: Good fight, great fight actually not even. Just Good bug, Williams,
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 1: says turkey you should do a four man tournament at Heavyweight,
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 1: between Parker, Kaybe yello Bakoli. And zang the winner gets
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 1: the guarantee Shot At USIK Fury aj. Dobois winner, hold
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 1: ON so aj is GONNA Fight aj. Dubois winners the
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: winner gets a guaranteed Shot At. Usik fiery wait when
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 1: did he he Must, have okay that's an. OLD tweet i,
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 1: was like what are you, talking? ABOUT dude i. THINK
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: he i think it was someone's screenshot of the, wrong
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 1: THING because I think i saw that tweet actually that
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 1: he was commenting. On it kind of like having a
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: new foreman tournament and, YOU know, I mean Parker and
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 1: kabel seems like a good place. To go maybe they
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 1: will Do The, dubois parker but my guess is it's
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 1: Gonna Be uga ugas Or jesus usik and Uh. In
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 1: dubois but. Who knows Here's J row junto staying at
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 1: one eighteen, Is, weird bam staying at one fifteen. Is
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: weird ideal work world in an, ideal world basically Anyway
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 1: fights Picasso. In may Junto fights nashida, for that, you know,
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 1: in unification AND then Bam, in september Then THE jukedo
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 1: bam Winner in. December, fights anyway let's get this. SHIP
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 1: moving i think that's not, gonna happen but it seems like.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 1: YOU'RE right i think all he is Right about JUNTO
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 1: and bam wanting to stay at, that division and, If
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 1: anything junto should go up to one twenty two just
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE he i think you'll hold the weight, Better Personally
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 1: but Nashida, and nakatani, you know that would be that would.
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 1: Be lineal, so yeah that works. For me that definitely works.
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 1: FOR me i think that would that would do. The
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 1: trick and then maybe they CLOSE because I just i.
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 1: Don't know it's like which one DO you i kind
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 1: of want TO see i, don't know because then YOU
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: have bam going to one eighteen and then one. TWENTY
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 1: two i don't think that's.
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 3: Gonna happen.
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 1: Just realistically i'm not saying. He's dunking i'm just, saying
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 1: realistically that ain't. Gonna happen so That's why, i'm saying, all, right,
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 1: well No na katani could just beat him and. GO up,
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 1: i GUESS but I would i. DON'T know i remember
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 1: HIM saying i want you to, do MORE and i mean,
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 1: him anyway Saying to nakatani do more at one eighteen. Or,
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 1: whatever well if he gets the linear the, next fight,
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 1: you know then. Why not, but yeah if he if
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 1: he Took on picasso AND then mj and then the
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 1: Winner Of, bam KNAKATANI that, i mean that would. Be
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 1: PHENOMENAL but I just i. DON'T know i. Don't know.
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: Gfunk boxing this might come as just shocked to some,
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 1: of you but boxes get hit all, the time all. Of,
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 1: them yes your favorite boxer. GETS hit i can't believe
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 1: you call yourself a boxing fan and say stupid shit
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 1: like he was. Getting hit look at. His face it's,
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 1: a fight not, a yeah ballet. Of reality. YEAH that
• 2:49:16
  Speaker 1: i saw multiple people talking, about this and they were,
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 1: talking about, You know crawford did Better against madrauma because
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 1: you know how they looked like their faces and stuff,
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 1: like that and that's fair to. An extent but this
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 1: is actually this is The Tweet. Kevin cunningham someone sent me.
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 1: THIS here I thought ourtis took over the second half
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 1: of the Fight. Against madrumov he earned a hard fought impress.
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 1: Of victory but some people are saying he did Better,
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 1: than crawford and he said he AGREES with Iq that
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 1: urtees got hit a lot More than bud and they're
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 1: going off faces and that. Is fair, in fact, you
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 1: know copy boxesn't live, or die right, Of Course but
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 1: madramov only was able to land. Fourteenth fourteen it was
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 1: cut off eighty four, overall punches obviously a really, slow
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 1: Fight whereas madrumov landed one hundred and. Twenty seven so
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 1: eighty four one hundred and, twenty seven, you know that's
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 1: that's over. Forty, more now the flip side, of that
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 1: obviously different styles of fights and all, That was crawford
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 1: only landed ninety five Punches, on Madramov and ortiz landed
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 1: one hundred and, Sixty six so you know you got
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 1: to at least point that. Out too ninety five, one hundred,
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 1: you know that's seventy more punches he landed. As WELL
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 1: so i thought both fights were, very competitive close one
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 1: was funner. To, WATCH obviously i Did think crawford did
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 1: enough to win. That fight some people thought he was a. Little,
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 1: closer well let me let me reiterate that it, was
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: close but you, know styles they, make fights as, we
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 1: know and blah. Blah blah so here is something though that,
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 1: YOU know I mentioned madramov saying he, was sick and,
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 1: you know he basically was saying that a doctor told
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 1: me not to, actually FIGHT and i shouldn't. HAVE fought
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 1: i should. Have listened but it was a. BIG fight
• 2:51:45
  Speaker 1: i didn't want to lose, the FIGHT which i. Respect
• 2:51:49
  Speaker 1: too but he says two, weeks ago this is, unboxing
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 1: news plus two, weeks ago we went to. The doctor
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 1: DOCTOR says i was sick and wasn't ready for the Fight.
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: With virgil we don't want to cancel a fight because
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 1: it was a. BIG card i work. TWELVE rounds i
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 1: work twelve. Rounds sick maybe in, THE rematch i come back.
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 1: Again stronger so he was sick now twice in a
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 1: short amount, of, time, Then RIGHT so i Don't know
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 1: virgil artis senor he said you were sick three weeks
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 1: Before The hooker junior or Before the. Hooker fight JUNIOR
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 1: gets covid the first wave that's, killing everyone. Our coaches our,
• 2:52:34
  Speaker 1: coach dies can't fly to the funeral because WE. Have covid. He's,
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 1: dead sick Still fights boa fight, one sparring he gets
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: cut on. The nose he couldn't spar almost all the
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 1: camp because he keep because his cut. Keeps, opening basically what,
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 1: you're saying all faced off picks, show it, you Know, sick,
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 1: friday Dead sick, saturday night. Blah blah he kind of.
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 1: Goes off so he, also said you have to go
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 1: through a doctor to. Be cleared everyone saw the doctor here.
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 1: Three Times We. Thursday friday you can't hide, an, injury
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 1: headache even flew by acting and trying to do act
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 1: normal the. Other stuff he kind of goes off. Of that,
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 1: but anyway it's Just not i'm not going to put
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 1: that in, the equation you KNOW what, I mean i'm
• 2:53:27
  Speaker 1: just not gonna. Do it you can if. You want.
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 1: That's fine it is what. It is here's. Role boxing
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 1: the winner Of bivill ad three will be able to
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 1: say they've had the best most complete run at one
• 2:53:41
  Speaker 1: seventy Five Since michael spinks basically tied in. That, regard
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 1: now if the winner went on To, beat benavitez they'd
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 1: cement their place in that kind. Of company with.
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 9: The, vengeance yeah that's, WELL said, I, Think Yeah brian
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 9: campbell was one of those guys that Said whether turkey
• 2:54:04
  Speaker 9: had access to the actual scorecards, mid fighter he was
• 2:54:07
  Speaker 9: simply sharing his Score to sharra's and. His team it's,
• 2:54:10
  Speaker 9: a bad, BAD look, i AGREED but i wouldn't go over.
• 2:54:14
  Speaker 9: The Top billy nelson has confirmed to me THIS.
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 1: Is Lh louise hart in an Interview With ring Magazine
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 1: that martin mccoley will still BE Fighting Faa jagna may
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 1: Second In. New york so now, he, says however not
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 1: AS an ibf. FINAL eliminator i suppose because he got
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 1: knocked down. Or, WHATEVER yeah i. Don't know there is
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 1: some Talk About callium Smith And. Andre Yard if yard Gets,
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 1: through arthur it does Suck For. Benavitez Man benavite is
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 1: is literally even though a lot of the same characters
• 2:55:00
  Speaker 1: are not gonna. Admit it but this is like a
• 2:55:03
  Speaker 1: Repeat of glovekin trying to Get the. Canelo, FIGHT now
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 1: i did Think that glovekin was Or that canelo was
• 2:55:11
  Speaker 1: Gonna give glovek in. THE fight i. Really DID and i.
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 1: SEE that i saw their play and they did that
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 1: infomercial that sold a lot of pay per Views With
• 2:55:23
  Speaker 1: chavis junior and they did a great job that night,
• 2:55:27
  Speaker 1: by introduce, you know, introducing it announcing the fight in
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 1: the ring. And ship that. WAS dope i, remember that
• 2:55:33
  Speaker 1: BUT and, i THOUGHT ultimately i did Think that canela
• 2:55:40
  Speaker 1: was gonna Take the, benavidez fight but it appears he's.
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 1: Not gonna But if Beval and benavite's Fight or Beval
• 2:55:49
  Speaker 1: in Better be a, fight again that'll be later. THIS
• 2:55:53
  Speaker 1: year i suppose it would line up For next may
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 1: for him. To fight so if He, fights beval let's
• 2:56:00
  Speaker 1: say he he because he hasn't really said he wants
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 1: To fight Better, be a but maybe he will now
• 2:56:06
  Speaker 1: because he Looks like Better be a slowed. Down some
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 1: but it just Sucks, for, benavidez dude Because If better
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 1: beev would, have won there's a good Chance that benavidez gets.
• 2:56:18
  Speaker 1: That fight will he will he Get The county smith
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 1: fight or will they want to try to DO a?
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 1: UK thing i, don't know but. It did it did
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 1: suck for great, you know good, good ass, great card good,
• 2:56:32
  Speaker 1: Main event but a trilogy has to Happen next i'm good.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 1: With that i'm not gonna sit there and, dispute that
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 1: but it really does Suck For, david benavidez AND like,
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 1: i said you don't see this the, usual suspects acting
• 2:56:50
  Speaker 1: like he's not the love getting in the. Same scenario
• 2:56:54
  Speaker 1: i'm not trying to match him up, as Fighters but
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 1: i'm Saying that benevitez needs a big fight and this
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 1: was a shot to. Get one maybe he'll take on
• 2:57:08
  Speaker 1: a quality opponent and then get the. Winner later that's
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 1: all he can really hope for because it doesn't Look
• 2:57:14
  Speaker 1: like canelo's gonna. Fight, Him anyway i'm gonna get out,
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 1: of here enjoy. The fights we'll be back. Next week really
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 1: trying to hone in On these. Tuesday nights my schedules
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 1: up to PAR so i should be pretty steady. On,
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 1: These anyway i'm going to get, out here enjoy the
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 1: fight's piece