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  Speaker 1: It's the good report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, Avig supermarket chain says there's just one totally dysfunctional
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  Speaker 2: state in all Australia where armed us Robert stores every
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  Speaker 2: week plus millennia. Trump is pushing husband Donald on dealing
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  Speaker 2: with Russia and a former Reserve Bank governess as the
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  Speaker 2: Albanize government lacks spending discipline and helped scapegoad him as
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  Speaker 2: he tried to fix the damage. Plenty more, including great
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  Speaker 2: guests Rondine, Jamtonini, Joe Hildebrand. So keep watching. But first
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  Speaker 2: I thought last night the Abeeze government couldn't betray our
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  Speaker 2: Jews or Israel any more and hurt us too, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, possibly a national security But today Home Affairs
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  Speaker 2: mister Tony Burke insulted Israel's Prime Minister benjaminette Nieu with
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  Speaker 2: what sounded disgracefully close to a classic anti Jewish smear.
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  Speaker 2: All play it in a second, but make no mistake,
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  Speaker 2: we are at a turning point, a slide into barbarity.
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  Speaker 2: Now to the background. Last night Israel's Prime minister insulted
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi more savagely and publicly than any democratic leader
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  Speaker 2: has abused any other Australian prime minister, and let that
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  Speaker 2: sink here. No Australian prime minister has been insulted so
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  Speaker 2: personally and publicly by a foreign leader of a democracy ever. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it was probably unwise of Netnyahu, But the worst of
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  Speaker 2: it is that every word he posted on X last
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  Speaker 2: night is true. Yes, history will remember Alberanisi for what
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  Speaker 2: he is, a weak politician who betrayed Israel and abandoned
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  Speaker 2: Australia's Jews. But Albinizi hasn't done just that. This man,
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  Speaker 2: now praised by Hamas terrorists, called a handsome boy by
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  Speaker 2: China's premier, is portraying Western civilization, is trashing our key
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  Speaker 2: allies and alert to the left so radical that Kelly Craft,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's former ambassador to the United Nations, today warned
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  Speaker 2: alban he was playing with fire with America right now
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  Speaker 2: reviewing whether we could actually be trusted with the three
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  Speaker 2: Virginia class nuclear submarines that have promised to sell US,
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  Speaker 2: and America's ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, last week warned
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  Speaker 2: that even in the White House that was now discussed
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  Speaker 2: with what Albanize is doing now promising to recognize a
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  Speaker 2: palace in the state next month.
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  Speaker 3: Have you discussed this issue with Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 4: President Trump, absolutely, and we've discussed it at the State
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  Speaker 4: Department level with the secretary. There's an enormous level of disappointment,
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  Speaker 4: and some discussed.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder where Israel is furious in our most powerful ally
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  Speaker 2: shop because you consider how radically Albanisi has shifted Australia
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  Speaker 2: from pro Israel to viciously against Australia. In nineteen forty seven,
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  Speaker 2: this is under a labor prime minister, was the first
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  Speaker 2: country in the world to vote yes in the United
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  Speaker 2: Nations to create Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Australia Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But Australia today under this labor prime minister is cheered
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  Speaker 2: by people trying to destroy Israel, and today the government
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  Speaker 2: really went for the slot bucket. Albanize himself made out,
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, he is taking the high road against Netnyahu's attack.
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  Speaker 5: I don't take these things personally. Yeah, I engage with
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  Speaker 5: people to putmaker. He's had similar things to say about
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  Speaker 5: other leaders. What I say is that Israel, of course,
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  Speaker 5: increasingly there is global concern and global concern because people
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  Speaker 5: want to see an end to the cycle of violence.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Meanwhile, out when Albany's has attack dog Tony Burke
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  Speaker 2: to actually hit back and then you know with what
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  Speaker 2: sounded too much to me, like that old blood libel
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  Speaker 2: of Jews. An important point before I play it, birdseed
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  Speaker 2: of Watson is twenty five percent Muslim, and he seemed
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  Speaker 2: to imply that the Israeli leader killed non Jews Muslim
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  Speaker 2: Palestinians just to flex.
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  Speaker 6: Strength is not measured by how many people you can
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  Speaker 6: blow up or how many children you can leave Hungary.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just disgusting, disgusting. Is that really what
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  Speaker 2: Astralia's doing, just going out there to kill as many
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  Speaker 2: Palestinians as possible to prove that they're tough. Has Burt
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  Speaker 2: not heard it's actually fighting Hamas, one of the cruelers,
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  Speaker 2: the most barbaracterist groups we've seen in our lives. You've
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  Speaker 2: also heard Burt there repeat the latest smear of Israel
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  Speaker 2: that it's deliberately starving Palastinian children, when in it's fact
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  Speaker 2: delivering around one point eight million meals a day to Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just one of the three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty trucks of a that went into Gaza yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Another one hundred and eighty five palettes were dropped by air.
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  Speaker 2: Al Vivizi today would not criticize Burt's slur, but you
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  Speaker 2: know he's had a thing against Israel for decades now,
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  Speaker 2: and as Prime Minister, has had the chance to have
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  Speaker 2: Australia now vote against Israel in the United Nations. He
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  Speaker 2: and Foreign Minister Pennywong have also swallowed a mus propaganda,
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  Speaker 2: like his fate claim that Israel destroyed the Al Ali
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  Speaker 2: Hospital and it's fake claim that Israel starved a one
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  Speaker 2: year old Palatinian boy ins who a living skeleton, a
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  Speaker 2: boy who's actually as cerebral palsy in other conditions. And
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  Speaker 2: now Alberanizi has decided to punish Israel by recognizing a
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian state next month, despite one Hamas leader saying just
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  Speaker 2: a week earlier that would show Hamas was right to
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  Speaker 2: slaughter twelve hundred Israelis on October seventy two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And since then, three more Hamas officials have praised Albanzi
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  Speaker 2: for his move, them US spokesman Ishmael al Falkli, Hamas'
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  Speaker 2: political bureau member bus some name, and a spokesman for
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  Speaker 2: Hamas co founder Sheik Hassan Josef, who actually praised Albanesi's courage.
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  Speaker 2: How telling so many terrorists praising Albanzi. Our prime minister,
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  Speaker 2: same with the leaders of the communist dictatorship of China,
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  Speaker 2: called the Albanizi a model for other Western leaders. That's
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  Speaker 2: praise for him, not criticizing them. So whose side is
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  Speaker 2: Albanezi helping in this clash of civilizations Western democracies on
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  Speaker 2: one side and Islamis and dictators on the other. For
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  Speaker 2: the final straw for Benjamin ette Yahu was Burke this
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  Speaker 2: week banning a second elected Israeli politician from visiting Australia,
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  Speaker 2: and this time Simcho Rothmann. I have to point out
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  Speaker 2: here some outrageous double standards that really give you the picture.
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  Speaker 2: I was astonished that a Home Affairs Department document said
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  Speaker 2: Rothman's public statements mirror the policies of his religious Scionist party,
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  Speaker 2: including the elimination of Hamas and this plus Rothman's defense
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  Speaker 2: of Israel's actions have been received by members of the
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  Speaker 2: Australian community as inflammatory and concerning, and this included it
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  Speaker 2: said later the islam community, as I said last night, bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, calling for the elimination for Mars
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  Speaker 2: is a reason how to ban an Israeli politician. Are
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  Speaker 2: we nuts because some Australians, specifically Muslims, would get angry.
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  Speaker 2: In that case, we do have a problem, but it
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  Speaker 2: isn't this Israeli politician. That problem is right here at home.
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  Speaker 2: But Burke today brushed aside that embarrassing Home Affairs document.
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  Speaker 6: Some of what follows in that paragraph is simply descriptive
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  Speaker 6: of his views and consistent with many people who we
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  Speaker 6: led into the country.
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  Speaker 2: And Burke said he really banned Oftman because this bloke
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  Speaker 2: could call Palaestinian children the enemy in an interview as
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  Speaker 2: the words or maybe just clumsily expressed. But Burke emit
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  Speaker 2: some context here. Thousands of Palestinian children have indeed been
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  Speaker 2: indoctrinated bayer Maus to hate Jews and trained to kill them.
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  Speaker 2: So it is no wonder if many israel It's considered
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  Speaker 2: them a danger when some like these two teenagers one
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  Speaker 2: only thirteen have stabbed or if others even shot Jews.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's this outrageous double standard by this government.
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  Speaker 2: I mean here we have a government that meanwhile, let's
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  Speaker 2: Iran's ambassador stay in Australia despite him posting that a
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  Speaker 2: desirable outcome would be wiping up the Zionist plague out
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  Speaker 2: of the Holy Lands of Palestine. And last year it
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  Speaker 2: also led in British commentator Samihamdi, who's filmed just eleven
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  Speaker 2: days after the Hamas massacre of the Jews in October seven, celebrating.
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  Speaker 7: Celebrate the victory Allah shown the world that no normalization
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  Speaker 7: can erase the Palestinian cause.
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  Speaker 1: How many of you felt.
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  Speaker 7: The euphoria.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys are led in elected Israeli politicians, they're banned,
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  Speaker 2: So how shameful all this is to have a government
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  Speaker 2: that's so anti Israel and so celebrated by enemies of
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  Speaker 2: our civilization. No wonder Israel's Prime Minister couldn't contain his rage.
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  Speaker 2: The oven is the government's big round table meanwhile on
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  Speaker 2: how to kick start this country's pretty anemic economy. Just
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  Speaker 2: then a day two with still more nothing or nothing
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  Speaker 2: that anyone can tell, because unbelievably cameras and journalists have
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  Speaker 2: been banned. But there have been some very good ideas
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  Speaker 2: from outside that round table, ideas the government doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to hear. The first former Reserve Bank governor very interestingly
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  Speaker 2: said the government had lost spending restraint.
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  Speaker 8: COVID came and blew everything all we had to spend,
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  Speaker 8: and we haven't after COVID. We haven't really got back
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  Speaker 8: to kind of a clearly articulated framework for decision making
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  Speaker 8: with fiscal policy. It seems to be well, if there's
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  Speaker 8: a need, will spend, and for a while that's okay.
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  Speaker 8: But we shouldn't be in that world forever. And as
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  Speaker 8: we've come out of COVID in pretty good circumstances, I
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  Speaker 8: think it's our time for the government to reimpose some discipline.
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  Speaker 2: And the Alternative Summit today organized by National Center Matt Canavan,
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  Speaker 2: the summit that is open to the public. Effect has
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  Speaker 2: been brought us on Sky News Extra honed in on
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  Speaker 2: the government's disastrous crusade for green energy.
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  Speaker 9: Low cost energy has traditionally played an important role in
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  Speaker 9: offsetting the detrimental impact on an industry performance.
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  Speaker 2: Not only is it no longer.
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  Speaker 9: Possible for energy to play this role, this will inhibit innovation,
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  Speaker 9: job creation, and growth.
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  Speaker 10: Freeing ourselves from the pointless economic strait jacket of net
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  Speaker 10: zero and unlocking the supply potential of our economy. Growth
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  Speaker 10: is deliberately and strained under the rallying cry of netzero, iration, emissions,
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  Speaker 10: I ration growth.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is the panel if Veloncelin, co founder of
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  Speaker 2: Macro Business and a former federal Treasury official, and Michael Costler,
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  Speaker 2: former New South Wales Labor Treasurer. Michael the picture we're
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  Speaker 2: getting from experts outside the government's summit, too much spending,
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  Speaker 2: crazy green policies, driving power prices too high. Does that
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  Speaker 2: seem to be a message the government should actually hear.
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  Speaker 11: It's a message they won't here because, as I've said
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  Speaker 11: on many occasions, their DNA is, their economic DNA is
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  Speaker 11: around taxing and spending on wasting money. Look, it's good
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  Speaker 11: that they're not letting the public into that, because what
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  Speaker 11: I see there is a fully paid.
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  Speaker 1: Up members of the old ir club.
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  Speaker 11: You know, you've got the unions in there that represent
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  Speaker 11: eight percent of the population of the private sector workforce,
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  Speaker 11: and you've even got the business groups that represent even
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  Speaker 11: less of the business community, and all the policy advisors.
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  Speaker 11: You look around that table, as you can see on
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  Speaker 11: the screen, they've been around for years, you know, and
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  Speaker 11: they're fully paid up members of the net zero club. Look,
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  Speaker 11: the solution to this, of course, is not rocket science.
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  Speaker 11: Any decent economist and any decent follower of public policy
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  Speaker 11: knows what's required to get productivity. The problem is this
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  Speaker 11: government can't even define productivity, has no agenda in relation
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  Speaker 11: to doing anything, and worse still is doing everything. In
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  Speaker 11: its first term it did actually has made the situation worse.
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  Speaker 11: As I've said on many occasions, they reregulated the labor market,
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  Speaker 11: which reduced labor productivity. They increased waste and costs and
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  Speaker 11: increased that through subsidies to renewables and the net zero
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  Speaker 11: dream as well as that. You know, we've got tax reform.
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  Speaker 11: They don't understand it. You know, there's no discussion about
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  Speaker 11: tax indexation, which is absolutely critical to get incentive back
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  Speaker 11: into the economy. In fact, all they're looking at, as
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  Speaker 11: far as I can see, Andrew, is a way to
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  Speaker 11: get some sort of cover for some very short quick
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  Speaker 11: tax increases to do some minor budget repair.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a fast the whole thing.
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  Speaker 11: And you know, I expect nothing more out of this
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  Speaker 11: government than we've got in the last term, and that's
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  Speaker 11: more tax, spend and waste.
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  Speaker 2: And if a Nonsolin, can you give me more optimism
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  Speaker 2: than that?
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  Speaker 12: No, not really, I think Andrew, this protivity Summit's going
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  Speaker 12: to fail because it hasn't bothered to discuss the two
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  Speaker 12: key areas that are contributing most to our declining living
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  Speaker 12: standards and proctivity, and that Australia is running an excessively high,
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  Speaker 12: poorly targeted and low skilled migration system that is basically
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  Speaker 12: crush loading everything, housing, infrastructure, business investment, and as a result,
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  Speaker 12: our living stands are going down and down, not up,
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  Speaker 12: and proctivity growth is falling because basically a capital shallow
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  Speaker 12: in this country. We're not providing all the millions of
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  Speaker 12: extra workers with tools and machinery and enough infrastructure, so
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  Speaker 12: your proctivity goes down. The other area is we've got
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  Speaker 12: soaring energy costs, as Gary Banks just said, due to
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  Speaker 12: our idiotic net zero policies and the failure to reserve
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  Speaker 12: gas on the East Coast to give usselves cheap gas.
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  Speaker 12: I find it extraordinary that we export seven times more
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  Speaker 12: coal to the rest of the world that we burn ourselves.
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  Speaker 12: We export four times more gas. We sitting on thirty
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  Speaker 12: percent of the world's uranium, but we're denying ourselves the
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  Speaker 12: opportunity actually use those hydrocarbon resources to give ourselves cheap
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  Speaker 12: and reliable energy, which would then make manufacturing competitive. It
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  Speaker 12: would ease costs across the entire supply chain and would
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  Speaker 12: make us more productive as an economy. But instead we
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  Speaker 12: go in the opposite way. We're going hell bend on
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  Speaker 12: net zero and we're going to drive up energy costs
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  Speaker 12: and drive down our living standards and productivity.
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  Speaker 2: It's that simple. It's incredible. It's incredible, isn't it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: as some of those bands you're talking about essentially just
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  Speaker 2: religious tabooze. There's nothing scientific about it. They're religious tabooze
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  Speaker 2: and it's so primitive. Can you tell me, Michael, why
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  Speaker 2: it would be that the government has been dodged arguments
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  Speaker 2: on all three points? I mean, if for once good ideas,
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  Speaker 2: these are good ideas, I mean, why no argument at
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  Speaker 2: this summit? I believe too. Having a look at the
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  Speaker 2: agenda papers, well.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want reform.
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  Speaker 11: Andrew, I mean Anthony Albeli albow is from the socialist left.
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  Speaker 11: He opposed every single reform of the hawk keeping government.
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  Speaker 11: You know, financial deregulation, labor market deregulation, product market reforms,
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  Speaker 11: the micro economic reform agenda, and the privatization. He opposed
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  Speaker 11: all of that. He hasn't changed and unfortunately the Treasurer
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  Speaker 11: he might be an expert or have a PhD in
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  Speaker 11: Paul Keating's politics, but he doesn't understand his economics and
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  Speaker 11: the consequences of those economics for our long term productivity
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  Speaker 11: and wealth. And unfortunately that's what we're facing. So what
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  Speaker 11: I think they're looking for is they know they've got
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  Speaker 11: a problem with the budget. They know that they need
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  Speaker 11: to increase taxes because they're never going to reduce spending.
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  Speaker 11: In fact, they're in spending as we speak. They're picking winners,
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  Speaker 11: which was you know we've seen with that silly fund
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  Speaker 11: Future Made in China, quantum computers and all those nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: And what are we facing.
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  Speaker 11: We're facing a situation where you know, debt of a
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  Speaker 11: trillion dollars, government spending deficits a record levels. Nd I
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  Speaker 11: s about to destroy all of the public sectors to
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  Speaker 11: fund anything if it's not reformed. Some minor reforms mentioned today,
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  Speaker 11: but nothing of substance.
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  Speaker 1: So look, it's just windows.
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  Speaker 2: Just on the das I thought it was bizarre the
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  Speaker 2: Health Minister Leath was saying, oh, you know, big reform,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take autism people with autism, and that's
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a huge growth industry there. We're going to take them
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: out of the NDAs, which is all very well, but
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  Speaker 2: they're still being funded. They'll be funded by with a
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  Speaker 2: different thing. We're still facing the same problems. Why doesn't
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  Speaker 2: the government want to hear the truth about what's going on?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, I think the major problem the ndis is
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  Speaker 12: we're basically allowed in a whole bunch of middlemen and
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  Speaker 12: shunks and everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: To basically wrought it. And we're also obviously.
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  Speaker 12: Handing assistance out to people who are marginal disabled, not
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  Speaker 12: not seriously disabled. And because of that, the program's blown
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  Speaker 12: out to about fifty billion dollars a year in the
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  Speaker 12: Parliamentary Budget Office warns that within a decade it could
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  Speaker 12: be one hundred billion. So you know, it's obviously unsustainable
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  Speaker 12: and it needs to be rained in and it needs
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  Speaker 12: to target people who are genuinely disabled in the most
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  Speaker 12: cost effective manner, not this sort of blanket approach where
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  Speaker 12: you know, we have middlemen and shunks basically becoming millionaires
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  Speaker 12: offered at our expense.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot believe this country is so unhealthy that one
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  Speaker 2: in thirty five of us has a permanent and serious disability.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot believe it. Leave for Lonsol and Michael Costa.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much to you both. But I want
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  Speaker 2: to come back to this attack today in Israel's Prime minister,
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  Speaker 2: this spear by Home Affairs Minister Tony Burk.
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  Speaker 6: This one strength is not measured by how many people
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  Speaker 6: you can blow up or how many children you can
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  Speaker 6: leave Hungary.
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  Speaker 2: Join me, is Rowan Dean. It's are in chief of
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  Speaker 2: the Spectator Australia, host of Outsiders every Sunday at nine
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  Speaker 2: am and hosts of his own show on Fridays at
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  Speaker 2: seven pm. Rowan, what did you make of Tony Burk's
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  Speaker 2: attack on Prime Minister Benuminet.
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  Speaker 7: I was disgusted by it. I share a President Donald
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  Speaker 7: Trump's view of the Albanese government is disgusting. Not his words,
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  Speaker 7: but that was the sentiment that was expressed via Mike Huckabee.
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  Speaker 7: The Albanzi Wong Burke trifecta is despicable. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 7: They're now unfit for any kind of role in a government.
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  Speaker 7: The fact that they are leading the Australian government is well,
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  Speaker 7: it is so depressing for a Aralia, but it really
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  Speaker 7: demeans us correctly in the eyes of the world. We
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  Speaker 7: voted for these idiots. I know, we only voted, you know,
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  Speaker 7: two out of three Australians didn't vote for them, but
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  Speaker 7: our system delivered these seriously deficient undergraduate socialists. The comments
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  Speaker 7: that Tony Burke made were so vile, That is the
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  Speaker 7: sort of comment you would expect actually from a Sydney
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  Speaker 7: UNI undergraduate student with a kefa around his neck and
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  Speaker 7: waving a flag and you know, before going home to
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  Speaker 7: his nice house in Mossmann. It is completely devoid of reality.
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  Speaker 7: The every single thing that the Albanzi government has done
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  Speaker 7: from the moment it was originally elected has been to
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  Speaker 7: attack Israel. They took Penny Wog went up in the
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  Speaker 7: United Nations, we had recognitions of you know, Jerusalem, changing
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  Speaker 7: the definitions and all this sort of every single step
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  Speaker 7: has been anti Israel, anti Israel, anti Israel, and for
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  Speaker 7: Prime Minister de Netti Yahu finally speak up and say, look,
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  Speaker 7: this is just not on long overdue in my opinion,
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  Speaker 7: but absolutely warranted. And so we now get this screeching, hysterical,
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: childish stuff about blowing up people and strength and strength
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: is and it tells you the mindset of the people
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: running this country. And it should fill all Australians with
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: horror and disgust.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Well what also fills with horror and discussies the point
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you made that these people got voted in with a massive,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: massive majority. I mean there's no punishment for bad behavior.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And you mentioned Tony Burke, you said that the socialists
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: you are pretty long albanizy fair cop. Do you know
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Tony Burke. I first met him when he was sent
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: by his union to help defend George Pell, Cardinal George Pell,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: from false allegations many years ago, many years ago. He
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: didn't want me to say it at the time. He
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: wanted that to be a secret. But that's where he
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: was a good Catholic boy defending anill. Now look at him,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I mean talk about selling your soul. But to our
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: other tribal politics at Rowan in Victoria. Of course, Victoria,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: when you hear the story all new state schools are
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: now going to get Aboriginal names. Are not the names
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: of the suburbs, they are actually in or names maybe
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: reflecting the majority culture. Is this a good move? Is
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: this unifying? Look?
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: And I think Victoria, I think you know Monty Python
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: or John Cleese or someone's secretly running Victoria we've had.
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: If you go to Victoria now as a tourist, imagine this.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: You don't know what season it is. It might be
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: winter or summer or whatever. It might be the wet
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: dry or the dry wet.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Or whatever it is.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: Because of Nicholas Rees's crazy ideas, you can't walk down
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: one side of the pavement without getting arrested. If you
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: happen to walk down the other side of the pavement,
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: you'll probably bump into someone who's bringing their machete out
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: to pop it into the nearest machete bin. And now
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: you're going to wander around looking for a high school
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: or a public school, and to be honest, you may
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: as well, you know, consult the local scrabble board because
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: you'll have no idea where you're supposed to be going,
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: what the schools are called. By all means, it's fantastic
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: that we have indigenous names in our country and their
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: partner always have been part of our identification of place
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: names going all the way back. Why we have to
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: artificially fabricate them is insulting to Indigenous Australians. It's childish again.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: It shows that undergraduate socialist mentality. Oh let's redefine the
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: universe on our own terms. And it's stupid, and I'm
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: sure it is a monumental waste of taxpayers money, not
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: that Victorian taxpayers have any money, but you can guarantee
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: that this will where they'll all be reprinting X and
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: Y and Z and they'll all make a field day
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: out of it. It's such a shame. But as I said,
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Victoria is now not only the socialist capital of Australia,
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: it's the comedy capital of Australia for the wrong reason.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Getting yeah, but it's also forgetting the usefulness of calling
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a school by the suburb its ina. I know where
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the Malvernese Primary school is. I know it's a more vanice,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: but you know, then renaming them to an Aboriginal name
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that no one would know the meaning of. I mean,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: it's so useless. Do you actually notice with any of
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: this a market improvement an aboriginal and non aboriginal relations
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: rowan amount of coom? And I got to hear maybe
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you've noticed it, because I haven't.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: It's virtue signaling. It's ridiculous, it's silly, and as I said,
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: it's childish, and it does nothing for genuine Indigenous Australians.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: Andrew just quickly. I'm up at Broom at the Bush Summit,
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: which is just a fantastic initiative by the Australian newspaper,
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: and I was there this morning, absolutely amazing. I'll just
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: say that the welcome to country. As you know, I'm
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: no great fan of welcome or acknowledgments to country, but
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: welcome to country by the indigenous woman here. It was
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: superb because it was all about bringing everybody to Broom,
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: encouraging people with projects, with ideas, with businesses to come
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: to burn.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That's it. Welcome man, bring your ideas to improve the joint.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: All right, fine, Rown Dene, thank you so much, indeed
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: for your time. After the break Hamlania Trump is pushing
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: husband Donald to do the right thing over Ukraine. This
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: is a story of influence. The media hasn't been covering
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: worrying over evidence overnight that Donald Trump is being played
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: for a full again. Are one of the world's most
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: vicious leaders and biggest liars, Russian President Vladimir Putin. Now,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the US president has been boasting that is meeting with
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Putin in Alaska last Friday, and his phone call on Monday,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: head got a break through. His spokesman announced the big news.
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: President Trump spoke with President Putin by phone, and he
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: agreed to begin the next phase of the peace process,
• 25:59
  Speaker 13: a meeting between President Putin and President Zelenski. Now there
• 26:02
  Speaker 13: may finally be light at the end of the tunnel,
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: and this.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Meeting, we're told could happen in as soon as two weeks. Well,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I'd love to believe it, but as I said last night,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: odds a Putin's not going to show. He'll keep stalling
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to give him time to keep attacking Ukrainian civilians and
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: take more territory. I mean, the history tells us this
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: is what he does. For a start. Saying oh, I
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: could meet Zelenski is not new. He's offered Trump this
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: same bait for months, and Trump's taking it each time
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to get Trump to delay more sanctions while Russia meanwhile
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: attacks Ukraine. In April, Putin had already suggested Russian's open
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to direct talks with Ukraine as he kept up his strikes.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: In May, he con Trump again, it's just saying cease
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: for negotiations between just Russia and Ukraine would start immediately.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: In June, Putin said he was willing to meet with
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Ukraine's Voladimir Zelensky. Has been saying the same thing for
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: months and never delivering, and here we go again. Last night,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Putin's fire ministers said, oh, not so fast with this
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: supposed meeting between Zelenski and Putin. That Trump's talking about
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of hoops to jump through, first.
• 27:17
  Speaker 14: Step by step, gradually starting from the expert level and
• 27:22
  Speaker 14: further going through all the necessary stages to prepare summits.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Joining me is Donald Trump's first White House spokesman, Sean Spicer.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Sean Spicer, always great to see you, Sean. We now
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: have the Russian fire ministers saying about the supposed peace
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: talks between the Russian and Ukrainian leaders. Well, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: this first is to go through all these experts. We've
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: got to be very careful, go through various layers, maybe
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: include the United Nations. Vladimir Putin's actually talked for months
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: about being open to talks and always stalled. If it's
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: stolen yet again, what do you think Donald Trump will do?
• 28:06
  Speaker 15: It's a really interesting question you're asking, Andrew, because I'm
• 28:11
  Speaker 15: of the mind that Putin actually doesn't want peace. I
• 28:14
  Speaker 15: think Donald Trump has done everything to get us to
• 28:16
  Speaker 15: a place where peace is possible. He had the meeting
• 28:19
  Speaker 15: in Alaska, he had the meeting with Lensky, he had
• 28:22
  Speaker 15: the meeting with these European leaders. But here's the deal,
• 28:25
  Speaker 15: and this is to the point of your question. If
• 28:28
  Speaker 15: he gets to this point where he offu skates and
• 28:32
  Speaker 15: creates an issue with the time or the place or
• 28:35
  Speaker 15: we should have deputies meet first, I think Donald Trump
• 28:38
  Speaker 15: has worn out Putin's welcome, meaning that he will ratchet
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: on the sanctions, the secondary sanctions, the end of the
• 28:48
  Speaker 15: phantom fleet that has allowed Russian oil to flow out
• 28:53
  Speaker 15: of the country. So I think he's going to allow
• 28:55
  Speaker 15: his patients to wear out real quick. Putin's got to
• 28:58
  Speaker 15: recognize that Trump really wants peace, that he has given
• 29:03
  Speaker 15: him an opportunity to allow this to happen, and if
• 29:07
  Speaker 15: he doesn't want to take it, that's fine, But that
• 29:09
  Speaker 15: Trump isn't going to sit back and be taken for
• 29:11
  Speaker 15: a fool, and he will ratchet up the sanctions, the
• 29:15
  Speaker 15: secondary sanctions, et cetera. You know has been has been
• 29:19
  Speaker 15: said before the bottom line is the US has been
• 29:21
  Speaker 15: at like a three when it comes to enforcing these sanctions.
• 29:25
  Speaker 15: We've turned a blind eye to a lot of the
• 29:27
  Speaker 15: things that have allowed Russia to do. And I think
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: that Trump is ready to turn the volume up.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You know, Sean, I tend to agree with you completely.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I think Putin has been playing Donald Trump for a fool.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And I very much regret that Donald Trump didn't follow
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: through with his threat, well as of a week ago,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to impose sanctions if the meeting on last Friday didn't
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: result in peace. But I'm wondering the process you're talking about,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the stiffening of Trump's resolve, the switch from thinking, oh,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: look Trump, you know, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin wear
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: mates and all this kind of thing, and we can
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: get something done. How much do you think is due
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to Milania Trump? Now, she knows what it is to
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: live under dictatorial rule. She's lived, she grew up under communism.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: She sent Vladimir Putin an emotional letter last Friday, the
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: very day that Putin met her husband in Alaska, tell
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: him to think of the children in this war, telling
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you could end their suffering with just the stroke of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the pen. And Ukraine's president on Monday at the White
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: House passed on a letter to her, thanking her for
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: thinking of the nearly twenty thousand Ukrainian children that Putin
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: has kidnapped. How influential do you think she has been
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: in steering the president into gradually being tougher of Vladimir Putin.
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: It's such a great question you're asking, Andrew. I don't
• 30:59
  Speaker 15: think people fully appreciate the power that missus Trump has
• 31:03
  Speaker 15: on President Trump's thinking. This didn't just come out of nowhere, right,
• 31:09
  Speaker 15: It's one thing if it was a private letter, they
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: made it very public for a reason. Missus Trump is
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: moved by the killing of these children, the kidnapping of them.
• 31:20
  Speaker 15: I mean, there's tens of thousands of them that have
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: have been taken from Ukraine into Russia.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And it was made.
• 31:27
  Speaker 15: Public for a reason, and I think that is to
• 31:31
  Speaker 15: make sure that Putin understands that the one person who
• 31:34
  Speaker 15: has more influence than anybody on Donald Trump, his wife Milania,
• 31:39
  Speaker 15: is very moved by this. And it's funny because the
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: American media, You're the first person, Andrew that has really
• 31:46
  Speaker 15: picked up on the significance of this. And I know
• 31:51
  Speaker 15: Missus Trump fairly well. I would just say that, like
• 31:54
  Speaker 15: no one should underestimate the power that she has on
• 31:58
  Speaker 15: his decision making isn't it. Trump's display of that letter
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: should speak volumes to what he was trying to convey
• 32:08
  Speaker 15: to Vladimir Putin, which is I want peace, I want
• 32:10
  Speaker 15: the killing to end. He is so moved by the
• 32:14
  Speaker 15: killing of children. And I saw this during my tenure
• 32:17
  Speaker 15: in Syria when that was happening, and you've heard of
• 32:20
  Speaker 15: him talk about it in Gaza, and here we are
• 32:23
  Speaker 15: again in Russia.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I think it was very clever with Zelensky to pick
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: that up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 15: And yeah, I would say that that's the second piece
• 32:30
  Speaker 15: of that Andrew that that's the second piece that Zelensky understood.
• 32:35
  Speaker 15: This meeting, the second meeting that Zelensky had. I know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 15: everybody got to kick out of the fact that he
• 32:41
  Speaker 15: wore a suit, but Zelensky was picture perfect in this meeting.
• 32:46
  Speaker 15: He understood. He said thank you a lot. And I
• 32:49
  Speaker 15: know a lot of people may mock some of the
• 32:52
  Speaker 15: imagery of it, the suit, the thank you, but Zelensky
• 32:55
  Speaker 15: got it. And the idea that he picked up on
• 32:58
  Speaker 15: that Milania letter and said here is my wife's letter
• 33:01
  Speaker 15: to you, thanking your wife for doing this was brilliant
• 33:06
  Speaker 15: and I just again, sometimes people don't pick up on
• 33:10
  Speaker 15: the imagery and the impact of some of these small
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: things that happened in the meetings. And I'm glad that
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: you've done that, Andrew, because it really did make a difference.
• 33:19
  Speaker 15: And I know, I mean I say this without actually
• 33:22
  Speaker 15: having talked to the President, but I know that he
• 33:25
  Speaker 15: walked back upstairs later that day and said to the
• 33:28
  Speaker 15: first Lady, You're not going to believe what the first
• 33:31
  Speaker 15: Lady of Ukraine, how she was moved by your letter.
• 33:34
  Speaker 15: And so this is where sometimes the American media, in
• 33:38
  Speaker 15: particular the international media doesn't get it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Sean. I want to pick up on something you just
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: touched on there the imagery, well, the fawning of those
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: seven European leaders to Donald Trump, which was just amazing.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: And there's an equally amazing photograph from that meet with
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: these seven European leaders on Monday that just shows not
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: just a fawning but Europe's weakness. The seven of them
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: sitting in front of Trump's their school was like errant
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: school children or minions getting their orders. It shows that, well,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I just wonder how sick Americans are really of having
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to bail out weak Europeans who can't even defend themselves
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and asked to go crawling to the White House saying, please, please, please, America,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: help us defend Ukraine.
• 34:35
  Speaker 15: So there's two things that I thought were interesting. One,
• 34:38
  Speaker 15: how that picture differed from the first term. These guys
• 34:43
  Speaker 15: all lectured him, told them how he was wrong, how
• 34:46
  Speaker 15: he didn't understand the impact of his policies. So the
• 34:50
  Speaker 15: contrast between term one and term two is unbelievable. And
• 34:53
  Speaker 15: then last night I listened to NATO Secretary Mark Rout
• 34:57
  Speaker 15: go on television here in the United States and say
• 35:00
  Speaker 15: Trump was right, the criticism that he was levying on
• 35:03
  Speaker 15: NATO was correct. And his criticism of the fact that
• 35:10
  Speaker 15: they wanted the protection of the United States the Article
• 35:12
  Speaker 15: five protections but didn't want to match their commitment, which
• 35:18
  Speaker 15: is part of the deal here, that they would have
• 35:20
  Speaker 15: at that point two percent of their GDP towards their
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: own national defenses. It was to me, I loved it
• 35:26
  Speaker 15: because when I listened to the Secretary General make those
• 35:28
  Speaker 15: comments last night, I thought to myself, for all of
• 35:31
  Speaker 15: you elitists and foreign policy experts that have been decrying
• 35:37
  Speaker 15: President Trump's stance on Europe and NATO, you finally got it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 15: Here is the NATO Secretary General himself saying Trump was
• 35:44
  Speaker 15: right in his criticism.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: He was absolutely right, and Manager had sean that his
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: administration is equally right. And his criticism of Australia, our
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: failure to lift our defense to anything even remotely like
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: an adequate amount to pretend to defend ourselves. We're being warned.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: We're being warned, and I think America.
• 36:09
  Speaker 15: But Andrew, here's the thing, why is it? Why is
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: it you look at you look at the aucust deal
• 36:14
  Speaker 15: with Australia, you look at what we do with NATO.
• 36:18
  Speaker 15: Why is it always the U. These folks want to
• 36:21
  Speaker 15: lecture the United States about what they should do, what
• 36:24
  Speaker 15: it should do here in the United States, not what
• 36:27
  Speaker 15: you guys. And again I'm I'm not trying to be
• 36:29
  Speaker 15: critical of Australia or or the EU or any of
• 36:32
  Speaker 15: its member states. But the bottom line is, maybe you
• 36:36
  Speaker 15: guys step up to the plate first instead of criticizing
• 36:40
  Speaker 15: the US. First, in in in Australia, you're from China,
• 36:44
  Speaker 15: and then you're criticizing the United States. It's like, hey,
• 36:47
  Speaker 15: before you criticize the United States when we're willing to
• 36:49
  Speaker 15: give you submarines under August, stop closing up to China.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Well that is exactly the message coming from America. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: endorse at one and I think you know the game's
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: got to be over of the West. The rest of
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the West treating America's army like a mercenary army that's
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: actually at their disposal. It's not. You've got to have
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: a partnership, a genuine one. Sean Spiceer, thank you very
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: much for your time.
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: Always appreciated. Andrew, thank you.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: After the break of Big supermarket chain says that in
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: all Australia there's just one dysfunctional stage, just one. We're
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: armed youths Robert stores every week. Guess which one? Sure?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Almost every state has been battling crime waves lately, especially
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: youth crime, ethnic crime. Perfectoria seems in a special kind
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: of moral decay. The home invasions, carjackings, robberies of stores
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: like this swarming of an Ida's store, and the brawls
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and so often with machetes, often with young teenagers. Last week,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: one man confronted five armed youths in his home, one
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: allegedly on bail, and was allegedly stabbedt eleven times trying
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to defend his family and someone who knows only too
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: well what Descriss is like as Fred Harrison is the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: head of GA Victoria, the supermarket chain overseas more than
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: fifty four stores. He joins me. Now, Fred Harrison, thank
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you so much for your time. I showed vision there
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: of one game robbing one of your stores. How many
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: texts do you actually have in all these stores of yours?
• 38:23
  Speaker 16: Look, we're probably averaging close to one week, Andrew. It's
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: happened far too often, and it can be during the day, can.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Be in the afternoon, can be in the evening.
• 38:33
  Speaker 16: There's snow pattern to when these robberies take place.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And how many involve weapons?
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: I'd say most do. The US will jump out of
• 38:46
  Speaker 16: the car race into a shop with their bags. They
• 38:49
  Speaker 16: will often pull out of a machetty bars knives, run near
• 38:54
  Speaker 16: the staff and threaten them if they come near them
• 38:56
  Speaker 16: that they'll use the machete or use a bar knives.
• 39:00
  Speaker 16: They then demand cash, they demand tobacco. Invariably, our liquor
• 39:04
  Speaker 16: stores are close, so they race into the liquor store
• 39:07
  Speaker 16: and steal liquor. So it's all in and out in
• 39:11
  Speaker 16: two or three minutes.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: It must be so terrifying for the poor staff. Can
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: you now give me a comparison. IJA's got stores in
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: other states as well. You say about one attack a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: week and one of yours. How many attacks do the
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: IDA stores and other states suffer.
• 39:33
  Speaker 16: Well, We've got stores in New South Wales, Queensland, as Richie.
• 39:37
  Speaker 16: There are also ij stores, as you said, in Wa
• 39:39
  Speaker 16: South Australia, Tasmania. I will say this, and I've been
• 39:44
  Speaker 16: very vocal on it. This is basically only happening in
• 39:47
  Speaker 16: our Victorian stores. It is not happening Touchwood in the state.
• 39:52
  Speaker 16: It seems to be very Victorian focused, and I strongly
• 39:57
  Speaker 16: believe it's the bail laws, the government's lack in action
• 40:01
  Speaker 16: that is leading to these consistent, persistent attacks.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: That is extraordinary. No attacks in other stores, only in
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: your Victorian ones. And then once a week you say
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the ball laws are a problem. Have you had a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: look at exactly who is robbing your stores? Trying to
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: get some pattern here's some idea of cause and effect.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: Look, it generally is used ag genywhere between twelve and
• 40:33
  Speaker 16: seventeen they work in groups of five. They're often known
• 40:37
  Speaker 16: to the police, and the police are so frustrated because
• 40:41
  Speaker 16: I'll recall that incident that video you showed was at
• 40:43
  Speaker 16: Mount Waverley. I popped out to the store within an
• 40:46
  Speaker 16: hour of that robbery. Spoke to the police woman who
• 40:50
  Speaker 16: was running the case, and she said, Fred, we know
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  Speaker 16: who these thieves are, we know where they live. We're
• 40:57
  Speaker 16: doing our paperwork. Will go around and bring them in
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  Speaker 16: the sar afternoon, but by six o'clock to night they'll
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  Speaker 16: be back on the streets.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I have to say that is not just one anecdote.
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  Speaker 2: I hear that again and again and again and again.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen some good reporting on this in the Herald,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: sound about this crisis in the bow laws. What effect
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  Speaker 2: there's all this having on your staff and on customers too.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this has got to have an effect on
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: prices among other things, as well as customers who have
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  Speaker 2: to witness this.
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  Speaker 16: It's horrendous. I mean we're going to the point now
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  Speaker 16: where we've got a WhatsApp group where there's about sixty retailers.
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  Speaker 16: So one store gets hit, we send it what's our
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  Speaker 16: message out and we will put staff on our front
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  Speaker 16: door to literally close the store and just allow customers
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  Speaker 16: in and out one by one. Our staff are terrified.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, these are young people off and Andrew particularly
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  Speaker 16: when it's later in the day. Who are fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
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  Speaker 16: eighteen who are coming to work to earn pocket money
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  Speaker 16: and then they're having to face it. And look, we
• 42:00
  Speaker 16: have security guards in some of these stores. But the
• 42:03
  Speaker 16: security guards they can't intervent, can't touch, they just sit
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  Speaker 16: there and watch. So unfortunately they're not much use or
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  Speaker 16: assistance to us either. The lords have got to change.
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  Speaker 16: That's where the biggest problem is.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, Fred, you've put your finger on something that really
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  Speaker 2: really offends me, disgusts me about this. You have young
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  Speaker 2: kids who are working an honest job, getting some money,
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  Speaker 2: trying to be self sufficient on one side, and a
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: known bunch of kids that think they can go and
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  Speaker 2: terrorize people who steal what isn't theirs and that they
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: haven't earned. I think that's just such a moral disgrace,
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  Speaker 2: among other things from all the safety issues. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much, indeed for your time. Really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 16: Thanks Andrew.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: After they break a huge new spate of child sex scandals,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: not a single priest involved, we should tell us something
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: note something about all these new child's abuse scandals that
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: today forced Victoria's labor government to crack down on abuses
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  Speaker 2: in childcare.
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  Speaker 3: The recent allegations of horrific abuse across the childcare system
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  Speaker 3: has exposed a system that simply isn't working. And this
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  Speaker 3: sickens me. It sickens me as premier. It also sickens
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  Speaker 3: me as a mum.
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  Speaker 2: That failed system was overseen by the state. Now remember
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the Royal Commission's Child Sex Abuse in Institutions, appointed by
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: the Gillard Labor government. How it focused obsessively on Christian institution,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: especially Catholic ones, even though the vast majority of cases
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: involving priests were some decades earlier. Now. The anti Catholic
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: hysteria then was so extreme that Cardinal George pell was
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: falsely convicted of child sex crimes and jailed until the
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: High Court freedom and eighty two thirds of the allegations
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: of the Royal Commission went through about Catholics, Catholics Catholics,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: as if Catholics were uniquely evil. We'll think of that
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: as I scroll through headlines, which are some of the
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: amazing spade of allegations, mostly just their allegations of child
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: abuse over the past month and a half from today
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: claims that a former mayor abused more than one hundred
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: children at a state training school, and thousands of reports of
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: abuse have been made in Australian childcare centers and hundreds
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: of children told to test for disease after childcare worker
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: charged with child sex abuse and childcare sexual assault, allegations
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: against a male staff member and a woman at a
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: state special school charged with child abuse and guess what,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: and all this and more not one priest involved the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Catholic Church not mentioned at all. Joining me is columnists
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and communications consultant gem and Tooninias Sconi is regular and
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand another scone his favorite at GEMMA. Look, this
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: is an imperfect measure and it's no excuse of what
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: these sick priests did in the seven and he's in particular.
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  Speaker 2: But this is another sign that we went through some
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: really anti Catholic ysteria, a witch hunt, and we're blind,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: willfully blind to other things happening to children elsewhere in society.
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  Speaker 17: I don't necessarily think that it is a sign of that.
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  Speaker 17: I think that we dealt with what was before us
• 45:20
  Speaker 17: at the time. And as you said, the people who
• 45:24
  Speaker 17: were convicted of those crimes deserved to be convicted. And
• 45:28
  Speaker 17: there's just it doesn't need to be chilly shallied around.
• 45:32
  Speaker 17: I think we dealt with what was in front of
• 45:34
  Speaker 17: us at the time, and we are now doing the
• 45:36
  Speaker 17: same thing here. You've been around long enough to know, Andrew,
• 45:38
  Speaker 17: that the new cycle and team business was sometimes no
• 45:42
  Speaker 17: explanation about why some certain things happen when they happened.
• 45:46
  Speaker 17: But you know, I don't actually think that personally, No,
• 45:50
  Speaker 17: I don't think we were blind to other things.
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  Speaker 9: Personally.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: Don't think that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not quite sure if I can accept that,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: because there were some of us that were saying, well,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: what about the state schools, et cetera, et cetera, and
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: also what about the rampant abuse note the prevalence of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: child sex abuse in Aboriginal community, some Aboriginal communities. We
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: said at the time it was happening, and that wasn't included.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm not quite sure. I think there was a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: willful selection here. But Joe, I'm not sure that you'd
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: agree with me.
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  Speaker 18: No, I do, actually, Andrew, I think there was a
• 46:25
  Speaker 18: particular anti Catholic zeal in the ferocity with which things
• 46:32
  Speaker 18: were pursued. I think in the case of George pell
• 46:35
  Speaker 18: in particular, it was clearly that people already disliked him
• 46:40
  Speaker 18: or even hated him because he was a conservative and
• 46:43
  Speaker 18: basically wanted to pin as much as they could on him.
• 46:47
  Speaker 18: I can't really see any other I mean, I found
• 46:49
  Speaker 18: that the initial court decisions absolutely baffling, and the dissenting
• 46:52
  Speaker 18: Court of Appeal judgment was very illuminating, and the High
• 46:57
  Speaker 18: Court finally got it right. I think Pell obviously was
• 47:00
  Speaker 18: involved in applying practices in terms of the covering up
• 47:03
  Speaker 18: and moving around of perpetrators and the fact that he
• 47:07
  Speaker 18: was agree with that, and the fact that he was
• 47:09
  Speaker 18: pursued signy.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Of evidence of that, and I think the Royal Commission
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: really misstated, ignored some evidence and contradicted himself. I don't
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: agree with that bit. But yes, I mean, we had
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: to deal with the Catholic Church, but I've got to
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: say there was a blindness to other things. But I
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: don't think it was a will through another Yes, I know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I know, Gemmy. We might be going through another bout
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: of religious persecution, this time against Jews, and Israel's Prime
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Minister is bitten back. Do you excuse him?
• 47:41
  Speaker 17: Do I excuse him?
• 47:42
  Speaker 15: No?
• 47:42
  Speaker 17: I don't excuse him. I understand the frustration. I think,
• 47:47
  Speaker 17: to be honest, my views are pretty well established in
• 47:49
  Speaker 17: this space. But I think the thing that really really
• 47:51
  Speaker 17: I want to ram home tonight, Andrew, is if you
• 47:54
  Speaker 17: had Anthony Albanezi and Penny Wong and Tony Burke in
• 47:57
  Speaker 17: a war room trying to navigate a conflict, a war
• 48:02
  Speaker 17: the nature of which Israel is trying to fight, not
• 48:05
  Speaker 17: just on one front, but on six or seven fronts,
• 48:07
  Speaker 17: the Hoothy Gaza Lebanon. You've got all of these people
• 48:12
  Speaker 17: trying to wipe them out just because they're Jews. Put
• 48:15
  Speaker 17: Anthony Albanezi, Wong and Burk in a war room and
• 48:17
  Speaker 17: try to get them to navigate that kind of conflict.
• 48:19
  Speaker 17: To tell you what you're gonna have, You're gonna have
• 48:21
  Speaker 17: them wedding. You're gonna have them wedding themselves. And I
• 48:23
  Speaker 17: think this is the problem that I have with the
• 48:26
  Speaker 17: Prime Minister's stance and Tony Burke's appauling comments from this morning,
• 48:29
  Speaker 17: is that they are saying those things from a place
• 48:32
  Speaker 17: zero experience, zero risk, and zero cost in isolation on
• 48:37
  Speaker 17: the other end of the world, and it is only
• 48:39
  Speaker 17: a reflection of their political ideology, and none of them
• 48:44
  Speaker 17: have been to them.
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: None of them have been.
• 48:46
  Speaker 17: I've been twice. None of them have been standing the
• 48:49
  Speaker 17: place where those people were murdered.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I've got to go. Embarrassed to say, run out of time, Joe,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: and I'll have to much time next week. Problem all
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: my friend two Yes, thank you mate, Sorry to Sherry
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  Speaker 2: Max next good night,