Latest / Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning / How Elite Freshman WR Quincy Porter Lost His Black Stripe So Early
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Tuesday, April eight, time
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host Tom or the Texas game in one hundred
- 0:05Speaker 1: and forty four days the game against Michigan in two
- 0:07Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five days. If you're planning your next event,
- 0:10Speaker 1: make it unforgettable with Grateful Griddle, Columbus's favorite food truck
- 0:14Speaker 1: serving up Smashburger's gourmet sandwiches and good vibes. Book you're
- 0:18Speaker 1: catering today at Gratefulgriddle oh dot com. The vibes pretty
- 0:22Speaker 1: good in Columbus this week. Weather is pretty good. The
- 0:26Speaker 1: weather for Saturdays Spring game looking pretty good. It should
- 0:29Speaker 1: be a lovely day out at Ohio Stadium. We will
- 0:31Speaker 1: be there and there's going to be plenty of interesting
- 0:34Speaker 1: storylines to talk through and watch as the Buckeyes take
- 0:38Speaker 1: the field for the twenty twenty five spring game. In
- 0:41Speaker 1: the lead up to that, we're going to get let
- 0:42Speaker 1: you hear a little bit today from Ryan Day. We
- 0:44Speaker 1: got a chance to hear from him after the Buckeyes
- 0:47Speaker 1: practice on Monday. Had a lot of interesting stuff to
- 0:49Speaker 1: talk about, certainly a lot about the quarterback battle, but
- 0:52Speaker 1: a lot about some other positional battles as well. It's
- 0:55Speaker 1: interesting stuff about why they helped head the quarterbacks go
- 0:58Speaker 1: live during practice on Saturday, and much more. But of
- 1:01Speaker 1: course you gotta start with the quarterback battle. It's all
- 1:04Speaker 1: anyone wants to talk about. So let's talk about the
- 1:06Speaker 1: quarterback battle. Ryan Day, what is the latest on the
- 1:09Speaker 1: quarterback battle?
- 1:10Speaker 2: Well, one thing I met with the quarterbacks, and you know,
- 1:15Speaker 2: I made the comment that the only thing that was
- 1:17Speaker 2: different about Saturday's practice was the fact that you know,
- 1:22Speaker 2: we had students there and we had the media there.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Other than that, it was it was just another practice.
- 1:27Speaker 2: But what it does make you realize is how important
- 1:30Speaker 2: every rep is. And that's you know, my job, and
- 1:34Speaker 2: that's Billy Fessler and Brian Hartline's job is to make
- 1:36Speaker 2: sure that you know, they understand every single play matters,
- 1:40Speaker 2: and we got to get better every day. That being said,
- 1:42Speaker 2: it's been you know, three guys getting after it every day.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Improvement across the board. Yo, there's been good, good days
- 1:50Speaker 2: on all all fronts, but then there's been other days
- 1:53Speaker 2: and not so good. They're growing, they're learning. You know,
- 1:58Speaker 2: there's nobody that's any much that much further ahead of
- 2:01Speaker 2: the other one right now. So they're going to continue
- 2:03Speaker 2: to compete, and this is a big week for him
- 2:04Speaker 2: and Saturday it'll be a big day for them as well.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Get in front of everybody and have an opportunity to compete.
- 2:11Speaker 1: This is not the first quarterback battle that Ryan Day
- 2:13Speaker 1: has been a part of at Ohio State. The first one,
- 2:15Speaker 1: of course, was Joe Burrow versus Dwayne Haskins. That was
- 2:19Speaker 1: back in the spring of twenty eighteen. So was that
- 2:24Speaker 1: a nerve racking experience for Ryan Day to sort of
- 2:26Speaker 1: be a part of deciding Ohio State starting quarterback for
- 2:29Speaker 1: the first time? And what did he learn from that?
- 2:32Speaker 1: You're gonna hear that answer, And then a quick follow
- 2:34Speaker 1: up from Dave Biddle of fuck Nuts if you have
- 2:36Speaker 1: trouble hearing him, He's asking if this one is nerve
- 2:39Speaker 1: racking as well.
- 2:40Speaker 2: It's nerve wracking when you don't have a quarterback. You know,
- 2:43Speaker 2: it's a good problem when you have a room full
- 2:45Speaker 2: of quarterbacks and that's part of the process is find
- 2:49Speaker 2: the right one and trying to do the best decision
- 2:52Speaker 2: you can.
- 2:52Speaker 3: And there's a lot that goes with it.
- 2:55Speaker 2: And you know, in that situation, you know had two
- 2:59Speaker 2: great quarterbacks and they both had great careers, So that's
- 3:03Speaker 2: not the one that's is nerve wracking.
- 3:04Speaker 3: When nerve wracking is when you don't have one.
- 3:05Speaker 2: So but but yeah, every year there's just been you know,
- 3:10Speaker 2: a different challenge, you know, figuring out who that guy
- 3:13Speaker 2: is going to be and figuring out where their growth
- 3:16Speaker 2: takes them. Uh, this is a situation where you have
- 3:19Speaker 2: Lincoln who's been here now for three years, and Julian
- 3:23Speaker 2: you know, just for a year, and then Tavian.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Just showed up.
- 3:25Speaker 2: So all three different points of their career, but all
- 3:29Speaker 2: still learning and growing. None of them really have you know,
- 3:32Speaker 2: a ton of significant playing experience. We'll see, yeah, we'll see.
- 3:37Speaker 2: I think that there's been good play. You know, there's
- 3:41Speaker 2: been mistakes made, but that's part of growing.
- 3:44Speaker 3: You know.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Another question is are you going to continue to make
- 3:46Speaker 2: the same mistakes over and over again. That's when you know,
- 3:49Speaker 2: we start to get nerve nervous. But right now we're
- 3:52Speaker 2: still kind of in that growth phase and learning phase.
- 3:54Speaker 1: One of the other positional battles that's quite interesting is
- 3:57Speaker 1: along the offensive line. And one of the things that
- 3:59Speaker 1: makes that interesting is there are a bunch of guys
- 4:00Speaker 1: who could slot in at any number of places the quarterbacks,
- 4:03Speaker 1: they're just going to be playing quarterback. Someone like Austin
- 4:06Speaker 1: Syraveld Well, he could be a guard, he could tackle,
- 4:09Speaker 1: He could fit in a bunch of different places. So
- 4:11Speaker 1: is he really going to be a factor in that
- 4:13Speaker 1: right tackle race.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I think Austin's had a very good spring. He's been
- 4:18Speaker 2: playing multiple positions and I think he's a true swing
- 4:21Speaker 2: player who can do both guard and tackle and he's
- 4:24Speaker 2: shown to be able to do that and a part
- 4:26Speaker 2: of that is being able to handle it mentally making
- 4:29Speaker 2: that jump and you know, so he's been doing good
- 4:32Speaker 2: job of that, and like we talked about in here before,
- 4:34Speaker 2: having a primary position and then the secondary position is
- 4:36Speaker 2: something that we've focused on. So you know, he's getting
- 4:39Speaker 2: to the point where I think he could start at
- 4:41Speaker 2: either guard or tackle.
- 4:42Speaker 1: We got a chance to watch these student appreciation practice
- 4:45Speaker 1: on Saturday, and Lincoln keen Holes had a very impressive day.
- 4:48Speaker 1: So what is Ryan Day like about Lincoln keen Hols
- 4:51Speaker 1: and what does he still need to improve and is
- 4:54Speaker 1: he still a legitimate, legitimate candidate for that starting job.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Absolutely. You saw his on some of the throws that
- 5:01Speaker 3: he made.
- 5:01Speaker 2: You saw his athleticism show we did at point make
- 5:05Speaker 2: the quarterbacks live I think, which is the first time
- 5:08Speaker 2: we've ever done that. I've ever done that, but I
- 5:10Speaker 2: felt like it was important for them, and that was
- 5:13Speaker 2: good to see them, you know, move in the pocket
- 5:15Speaker 2: and understand what live bolts are going to be like.
- 5:17Speaker 2: And we're I think that's behind us now, but we
- 5:20Speaker 2: got that in and that was good. But I think
- 5:24Speaker 2: that Lincoln, and I think it's the same for all
- 5:26Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. We're trying to make the routine plays routinely.
- 5:30Speaker 2: And I know you've heard me say that before, but
- 5:31Speaker 2: like that's really important to keep the offense moving. We
- 5:34Speaker 2: have good skilled players, we have good pieces around them.
- 5:37Speaker 2: You know, if they can just keep the offense on
- 5:39Speaker 2: track on first and second down and then play good
- 5:42Speaker 2: smart football on third down, make the throws in a
- 5:45Speaker 2: red zone, and then when it's time to win the
- 5:46Speaker 2: game in a two minute trill, like that's when they
- 5:48Speaker 2: have to be special. Right now, we're to the point
- 5:51Speaker 2: where we just need to make routine plays routinely. We've
- 5:54Speaker 2: seen them make this spectacular. We need them to make
- 5:57Speaker 2: routine plays and be consistent, and sometimes that can be boring,
- 6:00Speaker 2: but that's playing the position of quarterback and all it
- 6:02Speaker 2: takes is one or two plays to ruin.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Your entire day.
- 6:05Speaker 2: You know, we've been there before. You know, we're a
- 6:08Speaker 2: quarterback and played really really good, but one play could
- 6:10Speaker 2: ruin the entire afternoon in the game. So you know,
- 6:13Speaker 2: I'm kind of bouncing around on you. But what with Lincoln,
- 6:16Speaker 2: I think that's the case, But it's like that with
- 6:17Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks.
- 6:20Speaker 1: This is year two for Jeremiah Smith, and he is
- 6:23Speaker 1: obviously way way way ahead of what you would reasonably
- 6:26Speaker 1: expect someone entering his second season to be. Jinnny Gerdaman
- 6:30Speaker 1: put together a list of true freshman seasons and stats
- 6:35Speaker 1: throughout Ohio state football history for wide receivers and it
- 6:39Speaker 1: was incredible because no two other true freshmen had more receptions, yards,
- 6:46Speaker 1: or touchdowns than Jeremiah Smith. The only two people combined
- 6:50Speaker 1: who matched him in any category where Chris Carter and
- 6:53Speaker 1: David Boston, who combined for fifteen touchdowns, which matched Jeremiah
- 6:57Speaker 1: Smith true freshman season. So he's way way way ahead
- 7:01Speaker 1: of the curve on what it means to be a
- 7:03Speaker 1: freshman wide receiver. So, okay, now, heading into year two,
- 7:07Speaker 1: what's the expectation for him and where can he continue
- 7:09Speaker 1: to grow?
- 7:10Speaker 2: I think everybody on the team is at a different point,
- 7:13Speaker 2: and that was the message today to the team that
- 7:15Speaker 2: everybody has to continue to get better when they're on
- 7:18Speaker 2: the field. Now where is you know, Jeremiah as opposed
- 7:21Speaker 2: to you know, Tavi and Saint Clair or Devin Sanchez,
- 7:24Speaker 2: they're different different points. But you know, for Jeremiah, it's like,
- 7:29Speaker 2: how do I get that one percent better every day?
- 7:32Speaker 2: And a lot of it is, you know, learning how
- 7:34Speaker 2: to become a good teammate, learning how to you know,
- 7:37Speaker 2: encourage other guys around him to play winning football, which
- 7:41Speaker 2: he does. But you're starting to see him come out
- 7:42Speaker 2: of his shellow bunch. You know, He's done some some
- 7:46Speaker 2: route work inside in the slot, which is you know,
- 7:48Speaker 2: mostly he was outside last year. We're going to increase
- 7:51Speaker 2: his route tree as time goes on. So I mean,
- 7:53Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that he can improve on, certainly,
- 7:55Speaker 2: but getting more and more experience is part of it.
- 7:58Speaker 2: But also just you know, you know, growing into his
- 8:01Speaker 2: position and his personality on the team.
- 8:03Speaker 1: This time last year, Jeremiah Smith was the true freshman
- 8:06Speaker 1: wide receiver whoever was talking about This year, it is
- 8:08Speaker 1: Quincy Porter, and while let's pump the brakes, he is
- 8:11Speaker 1: not Jeremiah Smith. He did manage to lose his black
- 8:15Speaker 1: stripe on Saturday. That's pretty darn early for a true freshman.
- 8:18Speaker 1: So what did he do to become the first true
- 8:21Speaker 1: freshman to lose his black stripe this year?
- 8:24Speaker 2: He was productive. He made a lot of contested catches.
- 8:26Speaker 2: You guys were able to see that. We've seen a
- 8:28Speaker 2: lot of that leading up to this point, and you know,
- 8:31Speaker 2: we don't like to get those those black stripes off
- 8:34Speaker 2: too early for the freshman. But he earned it, and
- 8:35Speaker 2: especially in a competitive live day like that, to make
- 8:39Speaker 2: some of those catches. And you had a couple of
- 8:42Speaker 2: catches before you guys even got in there that day.
- 8:44Speaker 2: That kind of lit up the group. So I like
- 8:48Speaker 2: just how gritty he was, how competitive he was, and
- 8:51Speaker 2: he's showing toughness again making those contested, physical catches. And
- 8:54Speaker 2: so if he can keep playing like that, he's going
- 8:56Speaker 2: to find himself playing a lot of football this year.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Now back to Jared amia Smith for a minute. How
- 9:01Speaker 1: is he managing sort of the off field pressure and
- 9:04Speaker 1: all the stuff that comes with being a star player
- 9:07Speaker 1: at Ohio State. We saw the students just mob him
- 9:10Speaker 1: during the post practice photo and autograph session, and that
- 9:15Speaker 1: seems like that might be a microcosm for what life
- 9:17Speaker 1: might be like for him anytime he goes out in public.
- 9:20Speaker 1: So how can Brian Day and the coaching staff help
- 9:22Speaker 1: him with that?
- 9:23Speaker 2: Well, Jeremiah is a fairly private person, so that is
- 9:28Speaker 2: in his favor. But we've talked about it, and you know,
- 9:32Speaker 2: every time a situation like this comes up, we need
- 9:34Speaker 2: to have a plan. C. J. Barnett has a big
- 9:37Speaker 2: part in this, and you know we talked about that
- 9:39Speaker 2: and we spoke with Jeremiah even for that event there
- 9:41Speaker 2: what the plan was. You know, he's become obviously just
- 9:47Speaker 2: kind of a complete lightning rod. I mean you see
- 9:49Speaker 2: him and it's just, you know, everybody lights up because
- 9:51Speaker 2: not only what type of player he is, but who
- 9:53Speaker 2: he is as a person. He's got that smile that
- 9:55Speaker 2: just lights up a room, and he's just magnetic personality.
- 9:58Speaker 2: So you know, all the recruits when they come in,
- 10:01Speaker 2: you ask him, so would you like to practice? You know,
- 10:03Speaker 2: every single one of them say, Jeremiah Smith. But I
- 10:06Speaker 2: think with him, it's not just the ability of what
- 10:08Speaker 2: he does on the field, is how he works. It's
- 10:10Speaker 2: his personalities, humility, all those things. So but to answer
- 10:14Speaker 2: your question, yeah, I mean we have to put a
- 10:16Speaker 2: plan together. You know, he's in the city of Columbus.
- 10:18Speaker 2: He's one of the most high profile players you know,
- 10:22Speaker 2: in the country and certainly one of the most high
- 10:24Speaker 2: profile people in the state of Ohio now and that's
- 10:26Speaker 2: really the reality. So putting that in place, and I
- 10:29Speaker 2: know fans respect that. You know, he's also still just
- 10:33Speaker 2: you know, a young man trying to find his way,
- 10:35Speaker 2: and he is you know, when you look at him,
- 10:37Speaker 2: you don't think of it like that, but but he is.
- 10:40Speaker 2: And so we put a good play together to make
- 10:41Speaker 2: sure that he has what he needs.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Another second year player who looked mighty impressive during that
- 10:46Speaker 1: student appreciation practice was linebacker Peyton Pierce, and he potentially
- 10:52Speaker 1: be that third linebacker for the Buckeyes this year. You know,
- 10:55Speaker 1: you know what you got with r vel Reese and
- 10:57Speaker 1: sunny styles, but you've also seen linebackers like Cody Simon
- 11:01Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and rvol Reese in twenty twenty
- 11:03Speaker 1: four really kind of helped pick up the slack and
- 11:06Speaker 1: help pick up some crucial reps. So can Peyton Pierce
- 11:09Speaker 1: maybe be that guy this year?
- 11:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Peyton Pierce is thriving right now with
- 11:15Speaker 2: you know, having James and having Matt there. Matt certainly
- 11:18Speaker 2: has a great background and linebacker play, and you know,
- 11:21Speaker 2: just some of the new things and some of the
- 11:23Speaker 2: schemes and techniques that are going on. You know, he's
- 11:26Speaker 2: a guy that understands football at a high level. He's
- 11:29Speaker 2: a great tackler. He was a high school wrestler. He
- 11:32Speaker 2: can really see it.
- 11:34Speaker 3: You know.
- 11:34Speaker 2: I think he's really coming into his own. He was
- 11:36Speaker 2: coming off an injury coming out of high school getting
- 11:38Speaker 2: here and then you know, you have that freshman year.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Now he's got a whole off season to really train
- 11:42Speaker 2: and he's playing well here, so he's seeing things well,
- 11:46Speaker 2: he's playing fast, and this is another guy that's going
- 11:48Speaker 2: to have a big impact for us this year.
- 11:50Speaker 1: All right back to the quarterback race now, and Ryan
- 11:52Speaker 1: Day was asked to, so just break the race down.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Is there any gap in there between any of the guys.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say that Tavian has probably
- 11:59Speaker 2: the longest way to go, just because of just the
- 12:02Speaker 2: lack of experience.
- 12:03Speaker 3: I think it's easy to see. You guys saw it
- 12:05Speaker 3: on Saturday.
- 12:06Speaker 2: The talent and his ability to run, his athleticism, the arm.
- 12:12Speaker 2: You know, he has all those things. He just needs
- 12:15Speaker 2: to play more. He needs to see it more. That
- 12:17Speaker 2: the game's just moving really fast for him right now.
- 12:19Speaker 2: But he's picking it up. He's getting it every day.
- 12:23Speaker 2: So I'd say he probably has the farthest way to go,
- 12:25Speaker 2: and then Lincoln and Julian or you know, pretty much
- 12:28Speaker 2: neck and neck right now.
- 12:30Speaker 1: One thing that was very unusual during practice on Saturday
- 12:33Speaker 1: was that there were certain sections of practice when the
- 12:35Speaker 1: quarterbacks were live that meant if you could hit the quarterback,
- 12:38Speaker 1: you could take the quarterback to the ground. That is
- 12:41Speaker 1: very much not the norm during practices and especially during
- 12:44Speaker 1: spring practices for the Buckeyes over the years. Normally they
- 12:47Speaker 1: have the quarterback wearing those black jerseys, which means if
- 12:50Speaker 1: you hit this guy, you're in trouble. They were still
- 12:52Speaker 1: wearing the black jerseys on Saturday, but there were times
- 12:54Speaker 1: when you could hit him if you could get him there.
- 12:56Speaker 1: So what went into the decision to make those quarterbacks
- 13:00Speaker 1: live during practice?
- 13:02Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, first, I think all three of them needed
- 13:04Speaker 2: it for different reasons.
- 13:07Speaker 3: I'll start with with Tavian.
- 13:09Speaker 2: You know, Tavian, you know, coming in and seeing the
- 13:12Speaker 2: speed of all this, We're not going to do it
- 13:14Speaker 2: in the preseason, so this was really about the only
- 13:16Speaker 2: time we could do it. And I felt like he
- 13:17Speaker 2: needed to feel the speed of the game, you know,
- 13:21Speaker 2: because the first time is going to be against Texas,
- 13:23Speaker 2: you know, and if if the first game wasn't Texas,
- 13:26Speaker 2: I don't know if we would do it, but it is,
- 13:27Speaker 2: so we've got to be ready, Lincoln.
- 13:30Speaker 3: You know.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Other than that the bowl game, he really hasn't played
- 13:33Speaker 2: a lot of significant football, so you start to get
- 13:35Speaker 2: into a rhythm of practicing as opposed to playing.
- 13:39Speaker 3: So you're sitting in the pocket, you start to.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Feel like, you know, you almost have an unrealistic view
- 13:44Speaker 2: of your protection in there and getting to feel for
- 13:46Speaker 2: that part of it. I also felt like he needed
- 13:48Speaker 2: to let you know he's he's bigger, stronger, and more
- 13:50Speaker 2: athletic than he's been and I feel like he needed
- 13:53Speaker 2: to let his athleticism go with some of the pocket
- 13:56Speaker 2: movement things, some scrambles, just to feel what that is like.
- 13:59Speaker 2: So I wanted to make sure, you know, he got
- 14:01Speaker 2: a feel because when you're standing there as a quarterback
- 14:03Speaker 2: and you know you're live. That's just a whole different feel,
- 14:05Speaker 2: you know, being a quarterback. Knowing what that's like. I
- 14:07Speaker 2: thought that was important. And then allow to see with
- 14:10Speaker 2: Julian and again, you know, he had a few snaps
- 14:13Speaker 2: last year but hadn't really played you know, college live football,
- 14:18Speaker 2: and and so I wanted to just get that feel
- 14:21Speaker 2: of what that was like. And you know, when you're
- 14:23Speaker 2: in the pocket and you get too much depth and
- 14:25Speaker 2: the defensive ends are rushing up the field, you know
- 14:28Speaker 2: that that's a sack. You know they're gonna they're gonna
- 14:31Speaker 2: whiz by you to stay off the quarterback because that's
- 14:33Speaker 2: what we do. But you got to feel what that
- 14:35Speaker 2: that is like. And so I felt like that was
- 14:37Speaker 2: important for for all three guys for different reasons. But
- 14:41Speaker 2: you know, that's probably the hardest thing for a young
- 14:44Speaker 2: quarterback to understand, is standing in the pocket, when to
- 14:47Speaker 2: stand in there, when to slide and create, and when
- 14:50Speaker 2: to escape, and if you're not live, it's it's really
- 14:53Speaker 2: hard to replicate that. So I felt like it was
- 14:55Speaker 2: important everybody came out alive. And and so I think
- 14:58Speaker 2: we we we feel good about that.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Well, I was date.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Obviously coming off of a national championship season. So in
- 15:05Speaker 1: a year when you won it all, I'm sure there's
- 15:07Speaker 1: a temptation to just say, all right, well, we're just
- 15:09Speaker 1: going to run back and do everything the same way
- 15:11Speaker 1: we did last year. So how much has Ryan Day
- 15:14Speaker 1: stuck with what worked last year and last spring in
- 15:16Speaker 1: terms of getting the team ready, and how much has
- 15:18Speaker 1: changed this.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Year coming off of last year. My initial first two
- 15:23Speaker 2: weeks after the season was okay, I wasn't even thinking
- 15:26Speaker 2: about anything moving forward. Boy, we have to take a
- 15:29Speaker 2: step back in spring. We just played sixteen games. It's
- 15:32Speaker 2: a long year. We have to be really smart. Our
- 15:35Speaker 2: roster goes to one oh five. We can't afford to
- 15:38Speaker 2: lose anybody. Got about a week and a half into
- 15:41Speaker 2: spring and realized, you know, the guys who left played
- 15:45Speaker 2: a lot of football. Majority of these guys haven't played
- 15:47Speaker 2: a lot of football. We need about five more weeks
- 15:49Speaker 2: of spring football. We do, so we're going to petition
- 15:52Speaker 2: the NCAA to see if we can get five more weeks.
- 15:54Speaker 2: But I don't think they're going to pass that one.
- 15:57Speaker 2: So it's actually become one of the most physical spring
- 16:01Speaker 2: balls we ever had. Now, guys like Kleb, guys like Sonny,
- 16:05Speaker 2: you know, you know, some of the older guys, we've
- 16:06Speaker 2: kind of pulled out a little bit. We've played a
- 16:08Speaker 2: little bit more with the twos and the threes, getting
- 16:10Speaker 2: those guys more and more reps because they need to play.
- 16:13Speaker 3: They haven't played.
- 16:15Speaker 2: And it's so much different when you're a backup and
- 16:17Speaker 2: you flash and you make a player two.
- 16:19Speaker 3: When you're with the two's.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Okay now, but now you know, you're the guy that
- 16:22Speaker 2: we're focusing on. You got to sustain that level of
- 16:24Speaker 2: play throughout a whole game. And we call it you know,
- 16:27Speaker 2: you got to carry water. You got to be able
- 16:29Speaker 2: to do the work. And that's growing up, as we
- 16:31Speaker 2: all know. And so you know, we're looking for a
- 16:34Speaker 2: lot of these guys to take the next step with that,
- 16:36Speaker 2: to be able to now take more of these reps
- 16:37Speaker 2: and be able to handle that for extended periods of
- 16:40Speaker 2: time and and so that's that's what we're growing. But
- 16:43Speaker 2: we're we're young, inexperienced. But the more we can do this,
- 16:46Speaker 2: the more we can play and you know, get scrimmage
- 16:50Speaker 2: like environments, the better. So we're going to do that
- 16:53Speaker 2: at the spring game on Saturday, just to kind of
- 16:55Speaker 2: hit that format. So we'll break up offense and defense,
- 16:58Speaker 2: and in the first part of that will be thud,
- 17:01Speaker 2: you know, for some of the guys who have played
- 17:03Speaker 2: a lot of football, But we'll be doing that, and
- 17:06Speaker 2: then once once that happens, after a few drives, we'll
- 17:09Speaker 2: get right into it and we'll be tackling. The quarterbacks
- 17:11Speaker 2: will not be live, but everybody else will and it'll
- 17:13Speaker 2: look like a normal spring game.
- 17:16Speaker 1: If you are looking for a position group to sort
- 17:18Speaker 1: of furrow your brow and maybe be a little bit
- 17:20Speaker 1: concerned about, you, can you have my permission to be
- 17:22Speaker 1: a little bit concerned about the depth at defensive tackle
- 17:25Speaker 1: right now. That's something that Ryan Day has sort of
- 17:27Speaker 1: talked about on and off in a position where we've
- 17:30Speaker 1: sort of speculated that they might be looking at the
- 17:32Speaker 1: transfer portal following Spring Bowl. But let's get an update
- 17:36Speaker 1: on where things stand right now with that defensive tackle spot.
- 17:39Speaker 1: They feel pretty good about the top two guys there,
- 17:41Speaker 1: but what about the depth? Ryan Day was asked what
- 17:43Speaker 1: he was seen there over the last week or so.
- 17:46Speaker 2: There's been flashes, but in order for us to play
- 17:51Speaker 2: defense like we did last year, we're going to need
- 17:53Speaker 2: those guys to step up more than a half. I
- 17:57Speaker 2: think again there's ability there, but consistently playing at a
- 18:01Speaker 2: certain level is something that's a challenge that I know
- 18:03Speaker 2: that Coach Johnson is going to be pushing these guys
- 18:06Speaker 2: for over and over again, and you know, we need
- 18:09Speaker 2: these guys to step up in a big way. I
- 18:12Speaker 2: think that they you know, guys have gotten better, for sure.
- 18:14Speaker 2: I think you're seeing it. But in order to be
- 18:17Speaker 2: where we need to be next year, that needs to
- 18:19Speaker 2: be more and more growth as we move forward.
- 18:22Speaker 1: The spring game is sort of like the final exam
- 18:24Speaker 1: for spring practice for the players in all the different positions.
- 18:27Speaker 1: But let's talk again at the quarterbacks again. When you're
- 18:31Speaker 1: sort of putting together your final grades for the spring,
- 18:33Speaker 1: how much does the spring game really count in that assessment.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Does it get extra credit because you're doing it in
- 18:39Speaker 1: front of the stadium, in front of a stadium full
- 18:42Speaker 1: of fans and it's your last chance to do it,
- 18:44Speaker 1: or is it just kind of one of the fifteen practices.
- 18:47Speaker 3: It's a piece, it's a piece, you know.
- 18:50Speaker 2: It's I think about quarterbacks journeys along the way, and
- 18:55Speaker 2: you just take certain guys you know now that are
- 18:57Speaker 2: in the NFL and you just start went in high
- 18:59Speaker 2: school and go to college, and you see their journey,
- 19:01Speaker 2: and some guys transfer and they go somewhere, and then
- 19:04Speaker 2: they transfer somewhere else and they finally play their best
- 19:06Speaker 2: football late later on, or then maybe some guys you
- 19:11Speaker 2: know go on and play some of their best football
- 19:12Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's it's a process and a journey
- 19:15Speaker 2: along the way. So it's hard to make hard and
- 19:18Speaker 2: fast decisions sometimes with young players. The key to all
- 19:21Speaker 2: of it is is them being resilient and learning and growing.
- 19:24Speaker 2: And the faster they can learn from their mistakes and
- 19:27Speaker 2: get better, the better off they're going to be. And
- 19:29Speaker 2: so I don't have a crystal ball. I don't know
- 19:31Speaker 2: what it's going to look like. But you know, this
- 19:34Speaker 2: is just the beginning, you know. I don't know, like
- 19:36Speaker 2: you said, like what percentage we're there, I can't really
- 19:40Speaker 2: tell you, but I know that, you know, these guys
- 19:43Speaker 2: all have to continue to grow and get better, and
- 19:45Speaker 2: you know, part of that may be throughout the fall.
- 19:47Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I'll have to see where it goes. But the good
- 19:50Speaker 2: news is all three can do it. They physically can
- 19:52Speaker 2: do it. They can throw, You've seen them do that before,
- 19:55Speaker 2: but it's now playing winning football for us. So the
- 20:00Speaker 2: best we can do is put them in game environments.
- 20:02Speaker 2: That's our job as coaches. But you know they're they're
- 20:05Speaker 2: still green.
- 20:06Speaker 1: And finally, looking back at last Saturday's practice when we
- 20:10Speaker 1: were inside the Woody Hayes Athletics Center for that spring practice,
- 20:13Speaker 1: for that student appreciation practice, it's probably the defense was
- 20:17Speaker 1: playing pretty well and playing pretty fast, which is pretty
- 20:20Speaker 1: impressive for a defense that only was returning three starters.
- 20:22Speaker 1: And honestly, we did not see a lot of Caleb
- 20:25Speaker 1: downs in sunny styles, so it was really mostly guys
- 20:28Speaker 1: playing who had not played a whole hack of a
- 20:29Speaker 1: lot last year. So was Ryan Day happy with how
- 20:32Speaker 1: the defense is playing right now?
- 20:34Speaker 2: Well, that that's why we went live to feel that velocity,
- 20:36Speaker 2: because there's just a different feel when you're tagging off
- 20:38Speaker 2: sometimes on the perimeter thud, you know, when you're tackling
- 20:42Speaker 2: your role and you're playing fast and those angles change quickly.
- 20:45Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll say this about this group. They are competitive,
- 20:49Speaker 2: they're edgy, They've given great effort on the field. That
- 20:52Speaker 2: that has been every practice so far, so that that
- 20:56Speaker 2: that is something that's like a foundation you can build
- 20:58Speaker 2: off of. I think that's excellent. I think you saw
- 21:01Speaker 2: how hard they were practicing on Saturday, and.
- 21:02Speaker 3: That's that's been.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Now we've condensed this thing down to four weeks, so
- 21:06Speaker 2: we've been going back to back to back with some
- 21:07Speaker 2: of these practices and they've been physical. So I get
- 21:11Speaker 2: I get the guys a lot of credit. I mean,
- 21:13Speaker 2: that's that's a great jumping off point as a team. Now,
- 21:15Speaker 2: if we can just keep building and growing, we'll have something.
- 21:18Speaker 1: We will be back at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center
- 21:20Speaker 1: on Tuesday, get a chance to talk to at wide receivers,
- 21:24Speaker 1: get our last position interviews of the spring, and then
- 21:28Speaker 1: the countdown to Saturday is officially on. We will be
- 21:31Speaker 1: there for the spring game Saturday. Weather looks like it's
- 21:34Speaker 1: pretty good. Look at a nice sunny day, not too hot,
- 21:37Speaker 1: now too cold. Should be a lovely day inside Ohio Stadium.
- 21:40Speaker 1: We will be there. If you want to be there
- 21:42Speaker 1: as well, you can get tickets at ohiostate Buckeyes dot com.
- 21:44Speaker 1: And if you can't make it out to the stadium,
- 21:46Speaker 1: well make sure you check us out at bucke huddle
- 21:48Speaker 1: dot com and YouTube dot com slash Bucket Huddle. We
- 21:51Speaker 1: will have full coverage pre and postgame for you all
- 21:54Speaker 1: day long from the Ohio State Ohio Stadium of the
- 21:58Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Ohio States Spring Game. Looking forward to that,
- 22:02Speaker 1: hope you guys can join us there. So that'll do
- 22:04Speaker 1: it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Have a great day.
- 22:07Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow.