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03/10/26 - Hour 3 · The Huddle

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Speaker 2: He was looking up some that just sounds that just
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Speaker 2: sounds like stuff or something. I don't know.
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Speaker 5: Doctors women over there, Johnny Packers have broken the seal
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Speaker 5: this morning on free agency. They grabbed a corner Does
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Speaker 5: this mean that they're not going to get Tareik Wooling?
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Speaker 5: So from the rhetoric right out of the gates trip,
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Speaker 5: I don't think so. This is a two year, ten
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Speaker 5: million dollars deal, just a backup and a special teamer, right,
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Speaker 5: big time special teameror core guy there, right, And I
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Speaker 5: think it also gives you some uh space, and and
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Speaker 5: some some cautions, a little bit of backing in case
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Speaker 5: the market doesn't break your way. Maybe Woolen ends up
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Speaker 5: signing elsewhere, or you know, they have plans of moving
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Speaker 5: on from one of the two guys that they have
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Speaker 5: right now in a Nixon or Valentine.
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Speaker 3: But they desperately need bodies. They need a lot of depth.
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Speaker 3: So anybody you're bringing in is gonna be just helpful.
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Speaker 5: There's a couple of names top, but a lot of
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Speaker 5: the guys that I see in the available pool of
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Speaker 5: cornerbacks aren't you know, they don't excite you anymore than
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Speaker 5: Carrington Valentine and Keisha On Nixon seems like Moore the
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Speaker 5: same dudes.
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Speaker 3: And there's no Pat certain, there's no there's no frontline guy. Frankly,
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Speaker 3: there's no guys like last year where they felt like
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Speaker 3: there were bigger names. The young man DJ Reid who
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Speaker 3: went from the Jets to the Lions felt good. He
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Speaker 3: didn't necessarily have a great year. I like, can't buying
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Speaker 3: him last year. But there's just not necessarily those names out.
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Speaker 2: On the board.
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Speaker 3: Like you You've said it before, though, there's a reason
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Speaker 3: guys are available correct big time, and this year feels like,
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Speaker 3: more than ever, this sea.
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Speaker 5: Finally made and they will do something else. I still
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Speaker 5: think they might get a defensive tackle at some point
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Speaker 5: in the next day or so. Gonna probably lose Dobbs
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Speaker 5: today and Rashid Walker. I'm surprised they didn't go first day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of surprised, uh that Walker didn't
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Speaker 3: go as well. Now, dan Orlowski was very frustrated. Seemed
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Speaker 3: like that Romeo Dobbs didn't get it taken day one.
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Speaker 3: He tweeted out earlier on this morning too, said like
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Speaker 3: somebody needs to sign him early today, and uh, he
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Speaker 3: continued to try to caution it to be.
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Speaker 5: The pack to Miami, go to Miami with Maleik and
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Speaker 5: then him and Waddle can be you know, would be
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Speaker 5: a town there.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he should have a strong market, and uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, I know Orlowski also thinks it's sort of
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Speaker 4: concerning for the Packers that didn't resign him, and he
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Speaker 4: kind of thought the Packers should bring him back, and
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Speaker 4: it's going to be a big loss, and you know,
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Speaker 4: he was a very reliable guy obviously, So we'll we'll
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Speaker 4: see the Packers are doing the way that they they
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Speaker 4: think they should. They're clearing up cap space, doing the
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Speaker 4: Bill Dave Ramsey stuff, and then trying to say so.
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Speaker 5: Rashid's like one of the top five guys out there
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Speaker 5: and now at a position, you know, a high a
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Speaker 5: highly coveted position.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and one of the top five most important positions,
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Speaker 3: one that frankly, he's right near the top the market
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Speaker 3: in the most attractive available guys, and one that really
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Speaker 3: didn't get tapped much yesterday. Right, the tackle market didn't
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Speaker 3: really get touched. Guards offensive line didn't really go all
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Speaker 3: that much. Right, Lindenbaum went and then uh, that was
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Speaker 3: a massive deal.
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Speaker 2: Huge twenty seven million a year.
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Speaker 4: Twenty seven million a year for the big boy, and
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Speaker 4: look how much they value that position. Now, that's the indication, right,
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Speaker 4: And it ended up.
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Speaker 3: Being twenty million guaranteed a year, which again was right
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Speaker 3: where we talked about with Sean Ryan. They split the
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Speaker 3: market in half, realizing that it was going to be
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Speaker 3: a different look there.
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Speaker 5: I was going to say, is that guy that much
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Speaker 5: better than Sean Ryan? Oh, he's significant down and down
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Speaker 5: up bass. Yeah, he's to be worth that much more to.
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Speaker 3: A team that does Yeah, to a team that has
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Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback and one that The other part of
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Speaker 3: Lindenbaum that I think is going to get even more
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Speaker 3: value for the Raiders is they need to not only
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Speaker 3: protect Mendoza, they need to make their last first round
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Speaker 3: pick look a little better. Right, and you take you
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Speaker 3: take a running back in the top ten with Jets.
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Speaker 3: He did not have the year you necessarily wanted, and
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Speaker 3: they need a big man up front. Lindabaum is one
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Speaker 3: of the best run blockers in the game bar whatever position.
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Speaker 3: All Right, So I just made the crack about Nate
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Speaker 3: Hobbs because it's like oh, I'm.
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Speaker 5: Excited about a free agent, but I was excited about
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Speaker 5: Nate Hobbs and then he ended up being a bit
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Speaker 5: of a disappointment injuries and all that does he bounce back.
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Speaker 5: Aaron Banks started to bounce back at the end of
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Speaker 5: last year when he was healthy and could practice, and
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Speaker 5: you know, he looked like, all right, well there's the
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Speaker 5: guy that they signed. Kind of never really saw that
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Speaker 5: flash with Nate Hobbs on a practice field a couple
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Speaker 5: of plays, but mostly just not.
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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, we saw it a lot on track.
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Speaker 3: We saw it hurt a lot more about it in
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Speaker 3: the first week, week and a half of training camp
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Speaker 3: before he ended up getting hurt that he was being
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Speaker 3: too physical and had to get kicked out of practice
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Speaker 3: a couple of times. Yeah, but we didn't necessarily get
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Speaker 3: to He only got on the field a couple of
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Speaker 3: times later into the year. I think he maybe had
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Speaker 3: one PBu in that five game losing streak towards the
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Speaker 3: back end. But Banks drew, I like, you bet on
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Speaker 3: year two, and I bet that there's a better than
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Speaker 3: not chance my man doesn't strain both groins in training
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Speaker 3: camp and start with the first practice and pads get
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Speaker 3: a back injury, right.
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Speaker 2: Like, I mean, if you want to talk about the
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Speaker 2: worst possible.
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Speaker 3: Luck to start a year, Aaron Banks had Exhibit one,
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Speaker 3: two and three, A, B and C. I'm the worst
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Speaker 3: start to a new spot that you could possibly have had.
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Speaker 3: I gotta think that gets better.
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Speaker 2: For him this year.
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Speaker 5: But here in Tarik Willand's name a lot. What about
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Speaker 5: Trayvon Diggs? Anybody talking about him at all?
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Speaker 2: Anyway? I haven't heard a single thing about.
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Speaker 5: Because that was one that he would he he could
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Speaker 5: come back to Green Bay. Micah wants him at a
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Speaker 5: much reduced deal.
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Speaker 2: Does any to.
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Speaker 5: Renegotiate as that process under underway? Are we discounting the
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Speaker 5: idea that he could come back because we all when
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Speaker 5: he played one snap in the playoff loss to the Bears? Yeah,
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Speaker 5: one snap got pancaked and ran away from the runner.
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Speaker 5: Like that might be the only reason why that they wouldn't.
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Speaker 5: But I think it's worth a flyer. I like value
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Speaker 5: like that might be more.
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Speaker 3: He might be a week two or week three free agent,
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Speaker 3: Which is crazy to think of a guy that had
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Speaker 3: eleven picks in a season and right now he can't
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Speaker 3: even crack the first week of reagency.
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Speaker 5: It's strange, Well, how long will Elton Jenkins be on
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Speaker 5: the market. That's another buyer who falls off first. Who
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Speaker 5: gets who gets selected first, Rashid Walker or Elton.
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Speaker 2: Jenkins or Dobbs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so out of all three of those, I would buy,
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Speaker 3: Rashid Walker goes first based on position. Based on position,
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Speaker 3: I think Elton is a fascinating one because I don't
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Speaker 3: know that a lot of people know what he's what
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Speaker 3: he believes his value is gonna be right like that,
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Speaker 3: that's gonna be The other interesting way of navigating guys
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Speaker 3: later into their careers is like, especially at that position
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Speaker 3: offensive line, we see it with Drew Dollman. Now, not
8:39
Speaker 3: everybody's a Stanford guy and his dad is also a
8:41
Speaker 3: Stanford guy. And you play five years, make forty five million,
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Speaker 3: and you're gonna know that you're probably gonna then fold
8:45
Speaker 3: it h that you can always make more money. But
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Speaker 3: there's certain players that are gonna say, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 3: be playing for that. So, like, I'm interested to see
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Speaker 3: where Elton's market ends up being because it's definitely nowhere
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Speaker 3: close to the contract that he would have been.
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Speaker 2: Getting this year.
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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's gonna be playing for nothing right, Like,
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Speaker 3: he doesn't seem to be with the money that he's
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Speaker 3: probably made in the league. He's not signing a lower
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Speaker 3: than Sean ryan s contract. Where Rashid Walker I thought
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Speaker 3: somebody was going to break the bank for him right away.
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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a little bit of caution and excitement with
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Speaker 3: the kind of tackles that are in the draft this year,
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Speaker 3: Like we can slow play this a little bit. The
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Speaker 3: Dobbs one's fascinating, you guys know I last week I
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Speaker 3: wasn't against trying to resign it. Yeah, Like I do
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Speaker 3: think there's value in bringing back somebody who has a
9:33
Speaker 3: legit connection with your quarterback. Sure, is he a thousand
9:36
Speaker 3: yard receiver, hasn't been yet. I think he still has
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Speaker 3: the talent to be, and has been one of your
9:40
Speaker 3: more productive steady hands in the Covenant. But if he's
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Speaker 3: gonna sign for eleven million bucks somewhere, that doesn't seem
9:47
Speaker 3: like a deal you can't make. I would agree with
9:49
Speaker 3: you there. But he's not getting Alec Pierce money, which
9:52
Speaker 3: is gonna be mind boggling.
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Speaker 2: But if he's making ten million bucks.
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Speaker 4: Somewhere, that seems to me like a deal they could
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Speaker 4: have been pick actually must feel that he's eventually replaceable,
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Speaker 4: and that it is interesting and revealing this time of
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Speaker 4: the year. See what teams, especially your own team, thinks
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Speaker 4: of players, thinks of the market, and it's very revealing
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Speaker 4: during this time of year. To that end, you know,
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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson's the other one. Buy or sell guys, let's
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Speaker 4: do this. Should should I give up on the dream
10:18
Speaker 4: of Trey Hendrickson? I mean, should I give up on
10:20
Speaker 4: that piper as Trey Hendrickson as a packer. I mean,
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Speaker 4: he's not signed yet, and I thought somebody might jump
10:25
Speaker 4: on him. I wonder what he's thinking today. You know,
10:28
Speaker 4: I was wondering if he was going to be a bear.
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Speaker 4: I was wondering if he was gonna be a Tampa
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Speaker 4: Bay Buck.
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Speaker 3: There's a number of different older pass rushers that I
10:35
Speaker 3: would probably take the swing at before I'd go there,
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Speaker 3: Like I would go smaller.
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Speaker 2: Money, older kalais kalais.
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Speaker 3: But I'd also go as a rusher, I'd go Cam Jordan,
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Speaker 3: right like I would try to go and find somebody
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Speaker 3: that might be again older, more veteran, probably a little
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Speaker 3: bit less, but clear ring chase situation, because I think
10:56
Speaker 3: you might get drew maybe more juice out of that
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Speaker 3: squeeze across from Micah Parsons. If you're one of these
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Speaker 3: guys that knows counters and knows how to get home,
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Speaker 3: if you're gonna be able to feast on some one
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Speaker 3: on ones, I agree, Cam Jordan hasn't seen a whole
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Speaker 3: lot of one on one matchups.
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Speaker 2: I can assume in his career he would get a
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Speaker 2: lot more. He'd get a lot more playing across from
11:14
Speaker 2: Michael Park. He would have to.
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Speaker 5: But when you play that game, though, because we all
11:17
Speaker 5: thought Rashauan Gary would take that leadure, Oh, he's gonna
11:20
Speaker 5: have hur protection in the lineup, which is not really
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Speaker 5: a thing that much.
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't buy that that exists.
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Speaker 5: He took a baseball lineup and does it automatically mean
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Speaker 5: guys are better.
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Speaker 2: We did know that the secondary was better when Michaeh
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Speaker 2: Parsons was playing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the secondary definitely looked better and the guys on
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Speaker 3: the other side of the D line. I mean seven
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Speaker 3: and a half sacks in eight games. That was clearly
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Speaker 3: the best production he had ever put up. So like
11:46
Speaker 3: he had gotten a little bit of the boost but
11:48
Speaker 3: was just unable to get just continue to grow throughout
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Speaker 3: the year. I don't know if they would swing in
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Speaker 3: that market or if drew. They're just putting again, shockingly,
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Speaker 3: all legs in the basket of let's see what we
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Speaker 3: got in Lucas fan As because last year was put
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Speaker 3: up her shot up time for Lucas Vanas. Now legit
12:08
Speaker 3: contract year for Lucas van As. This has put up
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Speaker 3: her shut up time. And to see if he actually
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Speaker 3: gets the boost from playing across from Micah instead of
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Speaker 3: being the guy that loses most of your snaps because
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Speaker 3: Micah Parsons is there.
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Speaker 2: That's the kit cutting undrum.
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Speaker 3: I'm still holding on for Kalaias Campbell. I don't have
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Speaker 3: great belief that it's happening. They don't seem like even
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Speaker 3: though the Packers did just sign and trade for somebody
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Speaker 3: closer to thirty than twenty and trade somebody on their
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Speaker 3: first contract for somebody closer to his third contract inside
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Speaker 3: your Franklin, I don't know they're going to go that
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Speaker 3: veteran for a player, but Tyreek Wollen seems like a
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Speaker 3: perfect match. I don't know that his market is astronomical,
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Speaker 3: but they're going to try to find somebody who they've
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Speaker 3: seen now, and they have some familiarity with Wolan obviously
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Speaker 3: playing inside the ena, and one that when Wolan has
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Speaker 3: played his best drew he's been one of the best
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Speaker 3: guys in the league. When he has played some of
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Speaker 3: his worst ball, it can look very much like Nate Hobbs.
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Speaker 3: So like that, there's some boomer bust potential in that
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Speaker 3: Tyree Woolan name, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 2: That's how it goes.
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Speaker 5: You're buying her, selling that Chechia could pull off a
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Speaker 5: shocking upset and bet Japan they're scoring eighth inning here.
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be an amazing line?
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Speaker 3: Had I don't even know if they were offering a
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Speaker 3: money line on this at the Pottawatomi Sports book.
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Speaker 2: Now, this had to be in like a seven or
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Speaker 2: eight run spread on this game.
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Speaker 4: Figure out it's crazy crazy still see.
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Speaker 2: Here, Uh, you know Chechia scoreless through even that scoreless.
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Speaker 3: Through eight liveline right now at the Pottawatami Sports Book. Uh,
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Speaker 3: Czech Republic was plus eight hundred. That's incredible off up
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Speaker 3: you know, in a zero zero game. It's incredible. I
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Speaker 3: can't imagine what it was. It just goes to show
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Speaker 3: you you never know. But you know, Japan in this
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Speaker 3: tournament has been the undisputed king.
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Speaker 2: I'd say, I mean one.
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Speaker 3: On three of the last five, drew three of the
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Speaker 3: last four, three last five, and and I don't know, now,
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Speaker 3: maybe this maybe they're treating this as like Week eighteen,
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Speaker 3: and they already have the number one seed because they're
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Speaker 3: already they've already moved on. I think they've already won
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Speaker 3: their pool. They can't necessarily improve whatever is going to
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Speaker 3: happen in the quarterfinals or semi finals. So maybe we're
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Speaker 3: just getting a watered down version of Japan. But as
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Speaker 3: smacks that thing down the right field line, I think, uh,
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Speaker 3: I think we might see Lars new Bar breaking this die.
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Speaker 2: You might you might, you just might. Oh no, you
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Speaker 2: can't throw it away like that drew.
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Speaker 3: That might be the ball game, Ye, that might be
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Speaker 3: a That might be a little league play on being
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Speaker 3: able to throw the ball in.
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Speaker 2: Well, this isn't.
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Speaker 4: This isn't your dad chests you, This isn't your dad's
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Speaker 4: chets you, you know, definitely not. That was Czechoslovakia, actually
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Speaker 4: your dad or checker public, depending.
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Speaker 2: On how they worked by that kid to cut that
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Speaker 2: ball off too. In the corner. Doesn't let it rattle
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Speaker 2: around back there in the Tokyo Dome.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that it was impressive. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 4: you know, at some point, you know, we got I
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Speaker 4: know it's not not well executed.
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Speaker 3: He got two cutoffs. There is anybody, is anybody earning
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Speaker 3: an er around that one.
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Speaker 2: Fundamentally, we'll get you at the end. You know. The
15:20
Speaker 2: right fielder might just because it's not his fault, but
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Speaker 2: that's you know, you might have to put it somewhere,
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Speaker 2: all right.
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Speaker 4: Eight seven seven seven nine one ninety seven is nice though.
15:28
Speaker 4: Prague is a very nice city, or so I've heard.
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Speaker 4: I've never been there.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it's not gonna have him for them.
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Speaker 3: It looks like unfortunately, uh World Baseball Classic buyer sell
15:39
Speaker 3: On the talking text line here Dan and West bend
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Speaker 3: his big thumper a turn for not shaking hands with
15:43
Speaker 3: his teammate.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I loved it. I was American. Get
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Speaker 2: out of here right now. I'll dap you.
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Speaker 4: I'll dap you up when we get to Peoria. They
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Speaker 4: probably it's probably funny to them too. They probably get it, like, No,
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Speaker 4: I don't think this is like a whole like vlade
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Speaker 4: dras and like there's a deep, deep cold war between them.
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Speaker 4: Why they wouldn't shake it. I think that that's this
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Speaker 4: is probably more like, ah no, that's right now, Yeah, exactly, like.
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Speaker 2: You know, I like that you threw it all the
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Speaker 2: way back to the Yugoslavia.
16:13
Speaker 5: You like that reference, if you know, you know, man,
16:15
Speaker 5: I'm the other way, maybe a little old school. I
16:17
Speaker 5: think pro athletes and everybody the NBA is a brotherhood
16:20
Speaker 5: and all that. Like, I like it better when they
16:21
Speaker 5: hated it.
16:22
Speaker 4: They hate each other or at least pretended to. Like
16:24
Speaker 4: you guys can meet up with the club later, but
16:26
Speaker 4: at least on the court and.
16:27
Speaker 5: Visual Magic weren't always friends the fuel for the first
16:31
Speaker 5: like five years of their NBA careers.
16:33
Speaker 2: Then they kind of came buddies.
16:35
Speaker 4: Well, Shack and Chuck had that perfect relationship. They got
16:37
Speaker 4: in a fight once on the court, and they still
16:39
Speaker 4: get in fights on the set, but they're also you know, yeah, my.
16:42
Speaker 2: Brother, we fight.
16:42
Speaker 6: We like it.
16:44
Speaker 2: We've got too far the other way too much dap
16:46
Speaker 2: in pregame. Yeah, I kind of with you.
16:48
Speaker 3: I like the only reason why the Larry Michael meme
16:52
Speaker 3: of the UH when they meet up with each other
16:54
Speaker 3: in the back of the locker room, right when when
16:58
Speaker 3: Larry's running the Bacers right.
17:00
Speaker 2: Coach, coach and coach that year. The only reason why.
17:03
Speaker 3: That's funny is because there's a little bit of truth
17:04
Speaker 3: to it, right, Like you know that deep down they
17:07
Speaker 3: love each other, they respect each other.
17:09
Speaker 2: But god, I want to beat that guy's ass. Yeah,
17:11
Speaker 2: time like that.
17:11
Speaker 3: Not that you don't see that, but like, I don't
17:14
Speaker 3: know that you're seeing as much of that, even though
17:16
Speaker 3: last night Shade took a lot of uh celebration and
17:19
Speaker 3: a nice full victory lap on the game winner. But
17:22
Speaker 3: I do believe that maybe we've we've we've tiptoed a
17:25
Speaker 3: little bit too far out of that well.
17:26
Speaker 4: Larry and Magic became best friends, but it took a
17:29
Speaker 4: long time. And the commercial I love, and I know.
17:33
Speaker 3: That it's going to get more and more run as
17:35
Speaker 3: we get closer and closer to the game, and maybe
17:37
Speaker 3: it kicks off the season. Maybe it's week one, maybe
17:39
Speaker 3: it's week seven. So I love the Ben Johnson Matla
17:41
Speaker 3: floor thing and why I want more and more for
17:43
Speaker 3: our coach to turn it up a little bit. I
17:45
Speaker 3: don't know that we got wiener circle giveaways. If coach
17:48
Speaker 3: Laflor takes his shirt off. There were shaves and eyebrow
17:50
Speaker 3: after a Packer's victory. But I want to I want
17:53
Speaker 3: to turn that intensity up a little bit on this.
17:55
Speaker 4: Let me tell you those two are not ones we'll
17:57
Speaker 4: see becoming friends in ten years.
17:59
Speaker 5: Are you you're buying or selling that Travis kelcey will
18:02
Speaker 5: regret his decision to play one more season.
18:04
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna buy that he already should Like
18:07
Speaker 3: I thought he should have hung it up last year.
18:10
Speaker 2: I get he looked a little washed.
18:12
Speaker 3: I get not wanting to go out the way he
18:14
Speaker 3: went out in that Super Bowl. But then this year
18:17
Speaker 3: he played well like he was good? Right, Maybe drop
18:20
Speaker 3: some balls in some key moments. Chiefs weren't great. Pat's
18:23
Speaker 3: coming off an injury. Just go out and make some money,
18:25
Speaker 3: do something else, you know, and you can Keath Walker now.
18:28
Speaker 3: So hey, things could change, you know, that's true.
18:30
Speaker 2: They got the Super Bowl MVP, right, We will see.
18:32
Speaker 5: We'll see at some point, uh, Travis kelce he might
18:35
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Speaker 2: the huddle. What's going on boys?
19:37
Speaker 4: Long time, no talk, my gosh. Brian Butch, good to
19:43
Speaker 4: see you welcome.
19:44
Speaker 2: What is up? Hey?
19:45
Speaker 6: I had to call Billy. I'm like, are you gonna ask?
19:47
Speaker 6: I mean, it's March. Are you gonna have are you
19:49
Speaker 6: gonna ask?
19:50
Speaker 2: And Billy goes, do it? You know text, We're gonna
19:54
Speaker 2: We're gonna get the element out of the room.
19:56
Speaker 6: I think if you ever listened to the morning show
19:58
Speaker 6: with me and Zay, you understood I'm not a guy
20:00
Speaker 6: to hold, you know, grudges and business is business. It
20:04
Speaker 6: is what it is.
20:05
Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean that I don't love you boys.
20:07
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna be that salty dude that's like, I'm
20:09
Speaker 6: never gonna come on this station again.
20:11
Speaker 2: Hey, it is what it is.
20:13
Speaker 6: Life sometimes kicks you and then you know what, you
20:15
Speaker 6: gotta bunce back, have some fun.
20:17
Speaker 2: I missed you boys, man, and I think.
20:19
Speaker 3: My favorite man, my favorite was was Butchy's response after
20:23
Speaker 3: I said that.
20:23
Speaker 2: He goes, Hey, you didn't send the email in the world, and.
20:31
Speaker 6: You guys decided, Hey, we're gonna clip Butcher today, Like, no,
20:34
Speaker 6: it is what it is.
20:35
Speaker 2: It is what it is now. Butchie is what it is.
20:40
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard you describe March that way
20:42
Speaker 2: a couple of times.
20:43
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know necessarily when we would go to
20:46
Speaker 3: the final four and we would be able to talk
20:48
Speaker 3: to all these coaches.
20:49
Speaker 2: It's a different world.
20:50
Speaker 3: They weren't playing with G leaguers potentially, Uh, even when
20:53
Speaker 3: we were in Arizona, when uh, the sport was was
20:57
Speaker 3: kind of changing. At this point, it now turns in
21:00
Speaker 3: too when you get judged and how you are judged
21:03
Speaker 3: is the next month. And man, it feels like the
21:06
Speaker 3: Badgers have a team that is built for this month,
21:09
Speaker 3: maybe more than they have in recent memory. Is that
21:13
Speaker 3: fair to say or is that a little bit too
21:14
Speaker 3: prisoner of the moment at the moment?
21:15
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a little bit of prisoner in
21:17
Speaker 6: the moment. I think the other two teams last two
21:19
Speaker 6: years were really good. I think, you know, when you
21:21
Speaker 6: look at it, they just you know, two years ago,
21:24
Speaker 6: they make a deep run in the Big Ten Tournament.
21:26
Speaker 6: Then they've got to wait all the way Friday until
21:28
Speaker 6: I think eleven o'clock Eastern time to play their first game.
21:32
Speaker 6: And then you look at Leon I miss you too,
21:35
Speaker 6: just throwing that out there.
21:36
Speaker 3: I love.
21:38
Speaker 2: But one of those things.
21:40
Speaker 6: And then you look at this Wiscott team makes a
21:42
Speaker 6: deep run in the Big Ten Tournament last year, and
21:45
Speaker 6: then they play against a six seed in BYU, which
21:47
Speaker 6: wasn't seeded correctly. They weren't seated correctly because they couldn't
21:51
Speaker 6: play on Sunday. So when they looked at what they
21:54
Speaker 6: should have been as a five seed, they play them
21:56
Speaker 6: as their seed, them as a sixth seed because of
21:59
Speaker 6: their religious, you know, affiliations, and they can't play on
22:02
Speaker 6: Sundays in the NCAA tournament. Like there's a whole thing
22:04
Speaker 6: that goes with BYU. So that being said, this team,
22:07
Speaker 6: they're making threes. They can make to the final four.
22:09
Speaker 6: They can beat anybody. They've got the two best wins.
22:11
Speaker 6: I set through the Big Ten Network workshop with us
22:14
Speaker 6: and when they talked about they said, Wisconsin has the
22:16
Speaker 6: two best wins in all of college basketball at Michigan
22:19
Speaker 6: at Illinois, and they do like those are the best
22:22
Speaker 6: wins in all of college basketball. But you also could
22:25
Speaker 6: see an Oregon game. You also could see some of
22:26
Speaker 6: those things that pop up with this group. This group
22:29
Speaker 6: is really good. They have the possibility to be, you know, elite.
22:33
Speaker 6: I actually talked with Greg yesterday on my my YouTube channel.
22:38
Speaker 6: Hit that hit that subscribe, but go follow it.
22:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:45
Speaker 6: But I talked with Greg a little bit about that
22:47
Speaker 6: and he goes, that's what March is, and he goes,
22:49
Speaker 6: I understand, that's what we get judged on. But I
22:52
Speaker 6: I personally have a love hate relationship with March because
22:55
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that you didn't have a good season.
22:58
Speaker 6: It means you had a bad game maybe, or things
23:01
Speaker 6: didn't go your way, or somebody got in foul trouble.
23:04
Speaker 6: But the casual fan that's just jumping into college basketball
23:07
Speaker 6: now is that's how they're gonna judge you, and they,
23:11
Speaker 6: like Greg knows that, I don't think it's fair. There's
23:14
Speaker 6: a reason I say college basketball always delivers. You just
23:17
Speaker 6: have to pay attention to it. There's a reason I
23:19
Speaker 6: say it because the game always does delivers. There's great
23:22
Speaker 6: games in November, there's great games in January, but the
23:26
Speaker 6: majority of the eyeballs are on March.
23:27
Speaker 2: And that everyone understands. That's part of what this is too.
23:30
Speaker 4: And the stakes are higher, and I think that's what
23:32
Speaker 4: we like about it is the single limination stakes are higher.
23:35
Speaker 4: That being said, I think what's tough about March and
23:37
Speaker 4: what makes it so compelling is to advance in tournaments,
23:41
Speaker 4: you only have forty minutes to figure out any sort
23:43
Speaker 4: of problem or variable to adjust. There's no second chances, right,
23:46
Speaker 4: But and you played in plenty of tournaments. So to me,
23:49
Speaker 4: it's like there are things so much that there are
23:51
Speaker 4: things that can crop up for in one game situation,
23:54
Speaker 4: in a tournament situation that are different from the entire year.
23:57
Speaker 4: For teams, it's maybe official, you know, the balls, different
24:01
Speaker 4: the rims, shooting situation, whatever it is. Who can adjust
24:05
Speaker 4: quicker in that forty minutes is often the team that wins.
24:10
Speaker 4: The team that can adjust in that situation. Do you
24:12
Speaker 4: find that to be the case a lot of times?
24:14
Speaker 4: Like we obviously skill and talent and all those things,
24:17
Speaker 4: but who can adjust to those variables in that forty
24:19
Speaker 4: minute span?
24:20
Speaker 2: Uh, there's some of that.
24:22
Speaker 6: Some of it's just bad matchup and you know that
24:24
Speaker 6: going into it, and you just got to whether a
24:26
Speaker 6: bad matchup. Some of it you get a bad call
24:28
Speaker 6: and you got to figure it out. I think that's
24:30
Speaker 6: the stuff that you prepare for throughout the season because
24:33
Speaker 6: you're gonna have a game that doesn't go your way
24:35
Speaker 6: and you've got to tap into it. Here's the thing
24:37
Speaker 6: in March, every team is good, whether you're a mid major,
24:40
Speaker 6: whether you're now, it's a different conversation. Some of these
24:43
Speaker 6: bubble teams aren't as good. The bubble this year is
24:45
Speaker 6: absolutely crazy. Auburn getting in, Auburn getting in with almost
24:49
Speaker 6: a six or almost sixteen. Well they probably will have
24:51
Speaker 6: sixteen losses. We've never seen that, but yet they're in
24:54
Speaker 6: the conversation. It is ridiculous. That's where we're going with this.
24:59
Speaker 6: But in general, everybody has a good team.
25:02
Speaker 2: That's that's what it is.
25:04
Speaker 6: Now, does somebody get hot? Does a Steph Curry, Like,
25:06
Speaker 6: I'll go back to my nightmare. Does does someone run
25:10
Speaker 6: into a Steph Curry that all of a sudden you're like,
25:12
Speaker 6: this kid is lights out.
25:13
Speaker 2: There's always a March story.
25:15
Speaker 6: There's always a guy that steals the spotlight in March
25:18
Speaker 6: because they get hot for a game and they take
25:20
Speaker 6: out and there's an upset because of that. Some of
25:23
Speaker 6: that stuff you just can't control arming like as much
25:25
Speaker 6: as you try to, like some bit you can't, and
25:29
Speaker 6: you hope it doesn't happen to you.
25:30
Speaker 2: You just hope you don't get Jack goldkeid Oh.
25:33
Speaker 4: There's a kid from high Point that's the next one
25:35
Speaker 4: ninety nine, blanking on his name now, but that's the
25:37
Speaker 4: next one.
25:38
Speaker 2: Just one, Ryan Butch joining us here. I'm in the huddle, Butchy.
25:41
Speaker 5: Can the Badgers win a game like to your point,
25:43
Speaker 5: to Armor's point when everything's new and surroundings are new,
25:46
Speaker 5: tight rims, you know, different setup. Can they win scoring
25:50
Speaker 5: less than seventy seven points? Because they've scored fewer than
25:53
Speaker 5: seventy seven and all of their losses, right, So that's
25:56
Speaker 5: is that the magic number moving forward? Or does that
25:58
Speaker 5: not mean anything because everybody facing the same situation?
26:02
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it means a lot because this team
26:04
Speaker 6: is not elite defensively. You are who you are at
26:07
Speaker 6: this point when when you talk about March tenth, you're
26:10
Speaker 6: not going to change who you are.
26:11
Speaker 2: Your identity is what it is.
26:14
Speaker 6: Not a great defensive team, but they are getting better
26:17
Speaker 6: in areas like Austin Rapp getting better on the defensive
26:20
Speaker 6: end has been huge recently.
26:21
Speaker 2: He's done some things differently.
26:23
Speaker 6: They're still gonna have to score the basketball, guys, like,
26:25
Speaker 6: that's just what they're gonna have to do. They're not
26:27
Speaker 6: going to ever be elite defensively this year. But that's
26:31
Speaker 6: also what the times the rules haven't allowed you to
26:34
Speaker 6: necessarily be a leite either. Very rarely can you get
26:36
Speaker 6: a charge, very rarely can you do different things play physical,
26:40
Speaker 6: bump cutters, like all that stuff has been removed from
26:42
Speaker 6: the game. So because of that, the scoring input is good.
26:45
Speaker 6: Here's a number, one point zero points per possession is
26:48
Speaker 6: what it was when I played. Now that the average
26:51
Speaker 6: of a good team is about one point two points
26:53
Speaker 6: per possession.
26:55
Speaker 2: Or when you're playing Perdue it's one point five exactly.
26:58
Speaker 4: They're more has better, butch's an efficiency and shooting and
27:03
Speaker 4: talent all those things.
27:04
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if the offenses are better. I'm
27:06
Speaker 6: not gonna I'm not going to go down that road
27:08
Speaker 6: and say they're better. I'm gonna say the rules have
27:10
Speaker 6: changed to allow them more freedom. I'm going to say
27:12
Speaker 6: the rules have changed to allow more for more points
27:14
Speaker 6: per possession. So with the rules changes, you have to
27:18
Speaker 6: emphasize that yourself and you have to adjust. And that's
27:21
Speaker 6: like I said, you know what, as far as what
27:25
Speaker 6: Greg has done to adjust and to do different things,
27:28
Speaker 6: I think he's been really good. He's been ahead of
27:30
Speaker 6: the curve as far as making those changes. And like
27:34
Speaker 6: you know, we talked yesterday on Butcher's Den, the YouTube
27:37
Speaker 6: channel I've got. He really adjusted and said, hey, I
27:40
Speaker 6: was ahead of the curve. Because everyone gives Kirk Penny
27:42
Speaker 6: so much credit credit for evolving this, But what we
27:46
Speaker 6: talked about was Greg, I was doing games for the
27:49
Speaker 6: Big Ten network. You guys were going buffalo is what
27:52
Speaker 6: they call their ball screen. I said, you guys were
27:54
Speaker 6: doing that four or five years ago before Kirk even
27:56
Speaker 6: got here. So as much as Kirk wanted to get
27:58
Speaker 6: all the credit and Greg, and that's the type of
28:01
Speaker 6: man that Greg is, sure like, well if that's what
28:04
Speaker 6: if that's what the narrative is that we can push
28:06
Speaker 6: out there that Wisconsin basketball is playing faster because we
28:10
Speaker 6: brought in a guy sure like Greg. There is no
28:13
Speaker 6: ego in Greg guard and I think that's the thing
28:15
Speaker 6: that people don't realize about that they were doing this earlier.
28:18
Speaker 6: And I said that conversation I had with him opened
28:20
Speaker 6: up even my eyes to like, really, that's how it
28:23
Speaker 6: came about, and this is how you got.
28:24
Speaker 2: Into your offense.
28:25
Speaker 6: And I was like, interesting, But those are the type
28:29
Speaker 6: of things that I enjoyed hearing from Greg.
28:30
Speaker 2: A little bit different that that that isn't necessarily pushed
28:33
Speaker 2: out there.
28:34
Speaker 6: It's easier to push out the narrative Wisconsin's playing faster
28:37
Speaker 6: because they got to do assist at coach like. That's
28:39
Speaker 6: an easy push that that that people that don't know
28:42
Speaker 6: can you know, spit it out well if you really
28:45
Speaker 6: know the program, you you know a little bit more well.
28:48
Speaker 3: And Butchy and Brian Butch colored commentator for the Big
28:50
Speaker 3: Ten Network and Badger Hoops. You're gonna hear him coming
28:52
Speaker 3: up in the Big ten tournament and follow him on
28:54
Speaker 3: Butch he's den on YouTube. You you did catch up
28:57
Speaker 3: with Greg guard but I gotta be hones. That's the
29:00
Speaker 3: one that I really appreciated. But she's that was when
29:02
Speaker 3: you chopped it up with bo now when he had
29:04
Speaker 3: coach Ryan. The clip of bow dancing is one.
29:08
Speaker 2: I don't know how you have what you see You
29:11
Speaker 2: still that. I don't know how you knew that that
29:13
Speaker 2: video is still around. Great work to the social team
29:16
Speaker 2: you guys got there. But she's dead. Great work. That's
29:19
Speaker 2: impressive and president stuff. You must have a big crew there, man,
29:22
Speaker 2: that's amazing stuff. You don't think I can do that.
29:25
Speaker 2: I don't know who your team is. It's impressive stuff
29:28
Speaker 2: is his.
29:28
Speaker 3: Team that was disrespectful potatoes, I know, but she's got
29:35
Speaker 3: the editing ability in there.
29:37
Speaker 2: But but the one other part that that Greg I
29:40
Speaker 2: don't know.
29:41
Speaker 3: Locally, he's definitely started to get more credit for I
29:43
Speaker 3: think nationally he'll get more love for it coming up
29:46
Speaker 3: this March. Is what he has been able to do
29:49
Speaker 3: and how he has been able to attack the transfer
29:52
Speaker 3: portal and be really malleable.
29:54
Speaker 2: Right.
29:55
Speaker 3: He's a guy that is very proud to wear the
29:58
Speaker 3: w has for his son his entire life. He talked
30:01
Speaker 3: about the story with Isaac sitting in the in the
30:04
Speaker 3: car seat there at practice. But to be able to
30:06
Speaker 3: build and grow and man do a lot of it
30:10
Speaker 3: himself in the fundraising and bringing the money, bringing it
30:13
Speaker 3: to the forefront and then identifying the right players. It
30:16
Speaker 3: feels like he's starting to get a little bit of
30:19
Speaker 3: shine for that. And if Nick Boyd keeps playing the
30:21
Speaker 3: way he is right now, he's gonna get a lot
30:23
Speaker 3: of love for it.
30:24
Speaker 2: In March, he is I know you talked about Butcher down.
30:27
Speaker 6: I'll pull it again because there's a conversation that I
30:29
Speaker 6: had with Gregorountin, so I want to carry it on
30:31
Speaker 6: here because he goes, the latest rumor that schools are
30:34
Speaker 6: saying is that I'm so good in the portal that
30:37
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go to a blue blood school. He goes
30:39
Speaker 6: that that's what coaches are throwing out there to recruits
30:41
Speaker 6: right now, and Greg goes, if that is it, he goes, I.
30:44
Speaker 2: Have officially heard all of it now.
30:46
Speaker 6: So I thought that was a good response by Greg
30:48
Speaker 6: and Butch's den But one of the things, I think
30:52
Speaker 6: you're right, he's going to start to get credit for
30:54
Speaker 6: the portal guys. He's gonna get credit for finding, you know,
30:57
Speaker 6: and getting them at bargains and do those sorts of things.
31:01
Speaker 6: But I don't know if he's going to get credit
31:03
Speaker 6: for this, and I think that's the biggest thing that
31:06
Speaker 6: I look at with it. He has had guys in
31:08
Speaker 6: there in aj Storer and john Tonjay and even Nick
31:11
Speaker 6: Boyd that at the beginning of the year weren't that good.
31:16
Speaker 6: John Tonjay was not starting their two exhibition games guys.
31:20
Speaker 6: But what Greg got him to do, and it's extremely
31:24
Speaker 6: hard in one year, is he got them better. He
31:27
Speaker 6: developed these guys, so not only are you able to
31:30
Speaker 6: get them for a bargain, because there's some areas that
31:33
Speaker 6: they're not that good at. Still, that's why you get
31:35
Speaker 6: a guy in the transfer portal. Why do you get
31:37
Speaker 6: a guy for a bargain? Well, because there's areas of deficiencies.
31:41
Speaker 4: Just like.
31:43
Speaker 2: Otherwise, they're going to go and get more money.
31:45
Speaker 6: But the whole and the whole college basketball landscape evaluates
31:49
Speaker 6: these guys. The guys that they don't feel like they
31:51
Speaker 6: have that many deficiencies get higher money. The ones that
31:54
Speaker 6: have deficiencies probably aren't going to get paid that much. Well,
31:57
Speaker 6: Greg and his staff evaluate those guys, realize what they are,
32:01
Speaker 6: Realize they're good kids first of all, that they want
32:03
Speaker 6: to be coached, Realize what the deficiencies are, and then
32:06
Speaker 6: coach them up. And that's what Greg's not going to
32:09
Speaker 6: get enough credit for is how much better he's made
32:12
Speaker 6: the transfer guys so that they can be the guy
32:14
Speaker 6: Like they've had elite talent, but they've been missing some
32:18
Speaker 6: of those things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his staff.
32:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, Greg and his staff have been able to improve
32:24
Speaker 6: these kids. And I think that's the biggest thing. Nick
32:26
Speaker 6: Boyd beginning of the year, great great scorer, not a
32:31
Speaker 6: great playmaker for others, dribbled the ball way too much,
32:35
Speaker 6: didn't necessarily attack to kick. Now you look at the
32:38
Speaker 6: way he's driving to score and to kick and to
32:40
Speaker 6: make plays. Always was an elite competitor, but he's now
32:43
Speaker 6: a true point guard in what he's doing. Greg guard
32:46
Speaker 6: has made Nick Boyd a lot of money. Now you
32:48
Speaker 6: got to get Nick nick the ability to do that.
32:51
Speaker 6: But Greg's teaching. Greg made John Tanja a lot of
32:54
Speaker 6: money because he taught them out coached them up.
32:56
Speaker 2: So that's the thing that the narrative will be. Greg
32:58
Speaker 2: knows how to find transfers.
33:00
Speaker 6: To me, I think the narrative is Greg knows how
33:02
Speaker 6: to coach up these guys, especially for one year.
33:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, well, butchy Brian Butcher joining us here in
33:06
Speaker 5: the huddle. Is it simplistic to say the Badgers will
33:10
Speaker 5: go as far in the tournament as you know, as
33:13
Speaker 5: Boyd and Blackwell will take them because I'm nervous about
33:15
Speaker 5: the Nolan Winter injury and that he's such a big
33:18
Speaker 5: part of that. Is it still is a cliche to
33:21
Speaker 5: say that the tournament is for the little guys up front,
33:24
Speaker 5: that it's the guards.
33:25
Speaker 2: Or is it you know you gotta have that big
33:27
Speaker 2: guy too. No, it is now Nolan I think will
33:30
Speaker 2: be all right for the tournament.
33:31
Speaker 6: I still don't know. It's still up in the air.
33:33
Speaker 6: The thing a little bit for the Big ten tournament.
33:35
Speaker 6: And that's okay when you look at the Big ten tournament,
33:37
Speaker 6: like win one, yeah, yeah, win one, and if you
33:41
Speaker 6: if you well, no, I mean, if he's healthy to play,
33:43
Speaker 6: to get him out there.
33:44
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not gonna do any damage. Hey, throw
33:45
Speaker 2: him out there.
33:47
Speaker 6: But if you win one and then lose the Illinois
33:49
Speaker 6: or lose the Michigan, if Michigan keeps winning, like, it's
33:52
Speaker 6: not the end of the world. You've done the get
33:53
Speaker 6: to the get to Sunday two weeks in a row
33:56
Speaker 6: and you haven't had the results you wanted that next weekend.
33:58
Speaker 6: It's a lot of wear and tear for four games.
34:00
Speaker 2: Now.
34:00
Speaker 6: I'm not saying they're not gonna go compete, because that's
34:02
Speaker 6: what they're wanting to do. But I think the biggest
34:04
Speaker 6: thing is Drew. When you look at this team, John
34:07
Speaker 6: Blackwell is the X factor. When John Blackwell has not
34:10
Speaker 6: played well, they haven't won. Nick Boyd has been consistent. Obviously,
34:13
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to have Nolan Winter do what Nolan
34:15
Speaker 6: Winter does. Protect the rim, rebound, the basketball creates the spacing.
34:19
Speaker 6: But John Blackwell, when he is aggressive, and when you're
34:22
Speaker 6: watching a Badger game, all you have to do is
34:24
Speaker 6: watch the first three minutes of that game. If John
34:26
Speaker 6: Blackwell grabs the ball, rips baseline and goes as I'll
34:30
Speaker 6: call it sitting next to Matt Lepey, rip and go,
34:32
Speaker 6: there's another when he's in that mode, he's very tough
34:36
Speaker 6: to guard. When he's passive and dribbles and just kind
34:39
Speaker 6: of goes around the perimeter with it, he's pretty easy
34:42
Speaker 6: to guard and he's not engaged, and it's it's that simple.
34:46
Speaker 6: And John has the ability. To me, that's the biggest
34:48
Speaker 6: X factor.
34:49
Speaker 2: In this team.
34:50
Speaker 5: We were waiting for him to get hot and then
34:52
Speaker 5: it's like, how do we explain? And I had said
34:54
Speaker 5: at the time I kind of called the shot of
34:55
Speaker 5: them having that turd game or he walked us right
34:58
Speaker 5: to that.
34:59
Speaker 2: I kind of thought that it was either.
35:00
Speaker 5: Gonna be Oregon or Washington ended up being it was coming,
35:03
Speaker 5: and it was coming, but that was well timed. So now,
35:07
Speaker 5: other than winter and his health thing, it does look
35:10
Speaker 5: like they're hitting that. They've had some some splashy, some
35:13
Speaker 5: splashy moments. Right, Oh yeah, a lot of them.
35:16
Speaker 2: You know, I mean Purdue. Do you didn't mention Purdue
35:18
Speaker 2: with great road winds? Geez?
35:19
Speaker 4: I mean that's how I'm president. I didn't want to
35:22
Speaker 4: make your wife mad at you.
35:23
Speaker 2: That's all. That's all right. You know she'sn't gonna start watching.
35:26
Speaker 3: No she uh but she said, you know what would
35:28
Speaker 3: be awesome is if we were at the same site
35:30
Speaker 3: this year, and she did.
35:32
Speaker 2: That was about a month and a half ago.
35:33
Speaker 4: She didn't realize, you know, maybe market I don't think
35:35
Speaker 4: the CBI is playing uh mar, I'll say that.
35:40
Speaker 6: I'll say this about Marquette. I know Shaka got a
35:42
Speaker 6: lot of heat early on all no portal, no portal.
35:46
Speaker 6: That's not what Shaka was saying. People weren't listening.
35:48
Speaker 2: I sat down.
35:49
Speaker 6: I had four or five Marquete games early in the year.
35:51
Speaker 6: Shaka never said I'm not going to the portal. This
35:54
Speaker 6: is what Shaka said to me. He goes, I feel
35:56
Speaker 6: like I am a better I feel like I'm a
35:58
Speaker 6: relationships coach, and I want to have a elite relationships,
36:01
Speaker 6: and in the portal, I don't know if I can
36:02
Speaker 6: have elite relationships. So he's doubling down and was betting
36:06
Speaker 6: on himself to be able to do that. Well, guess what,
36:09
Speaker 6: Sometimes those relationships take some time. And we've seen the
36:12
Speaker 6: development of the plays. It's a great win against Yukon.
36:15
Speaker 6: They're young players, are developed, they play better. But Shaka
36:20
Speaker 6: also realized, hey, I need to do tap into the
36:22
Speaker 6: portal a little bit as well, and so you learn
36:24
Speaker 6: with that. And I didn't understand the Marquette fans just
36:27
Speaker 6: losing their minds.
36:28
Speaker 4: Well, no one's patience, you know, no one wants to
36:30
Speaker 4: lose like that. The principles all well and good.
36:32
Speaker 2: Are you a supporter?
36:34
Speaker 6: Are you going to be a dude that just wants
36:36
Speaker 6: to sit there, clean teeth and then come to the
36:37
Speaker 6: game and complain.
36:38
Speaker 4: But we're going to the games telling they're supporting, but
36:45
Speaker 4: they want.
36:46
Speaker 2: To win and that yes, they're not going to the game.
36:48
Speaker 2: That's the problem. But the Yukon game was pretty Students students.
36:54
Speaker 4: Are the students aren' gonna get excited when they're when
36:55
Speaker 4: they're having.
36:57
Speaker 6: You know what, I will, Mark Cat fans, I am
37:01
Speaker 6: calling you out because you got a guy in Shaka
37:04
Speaker 6: that is a lead and what he's doing and he
37:07
Speaker 6: wanted to double down on relationships. He brought the brogram
37:10
Speaker 6: back to consistency. Yeah, there's one year where he said, hey,
37:12
Speaker 6: I want to do it my way and.
37:13
Speaker 2: See if it work. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm
37:15
Speaker 2: with you.
37:16
Speaker 6: Don't act like he's not going to hit the portal.
37:18
Speaker 6: Don't act like he hasn't developed young players. He's done
37:21
Speaker 6: all of that. He has developed your young players. Look
37:24
Speaker 6: at what you just did. Show up to them instead.
37:26
Speaker 6: You want to worry about when the next teeth cleaning
37:28
Speaker 6: is for the dentist anders there, get there.
37:33
Speaker 2: Instead when it's good support your team there. Young players
37:40
Speaker 2: need to see it. Here's the last part. I'm finishing.
37:43
Speaker 2: Ran here for crying out a loud all right. The
37:45
Speaker 2: last part of this is this.
37:47
Speaker 6: You sit here and you want these young guys to
37:50
Speaker 6: stay because the NIL world everybody's in free agency, and
37:53
Speaker 6: you want to throw your hands up in the air
37:55
Speaker 6: and you want to get mad and you want to
37:56
Speaker 6: do all this stuff. Well, the only thing you're doing
37:58
Speaker 6: is hurting your program by now showing up. Because Nigel
38:02
Speaker 6: James and these young players want to say, hey, Marquette
38:04
Speaker 6: is a place that I could stay at and that
38:06
Speaker 6: I could be respected at and that I can be
38:08
Speaker 6: loved at, and instead you complaining and moaning and all
38:11
Speaker 6: this other stuff. That only hurts the ability of them
38:14
Speaker 6: coming back, because now they're gonna say, well, I need
38:17
Speaker 6: more money instead of saying it is relationship base. So
38:20
Speaker 6: file the lead of your head coach, become relationship based.
38:24
Speaker 6: And now all of a sudden, you're that. But Marquette
38:25
Speaker 6: fans you want it now, we're not. It's not prime now, nobody.
38:30
Speaker 3: Connectivity, whoever, whoever scheduled spring break on Senior Day weekend,
38:34
Speaker 3: thank you, Billy.
38:35
Speaker 2: That guy deserves and I agree with you one hundred percent.
38:38
Speaker 4: But support I'm just saying I think generally Shakail Twistago
38:42
Speaker 4: should get more credit.
38:43
Speaker 2: But they had sixteen thousand at the game. That's all
38:44
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
38:45
Speaker 3: Not have sixteen Well that was the paid attendance, so
38:48
Speaker 3: I was dying a whole row and I was there.
38:50
Speaker 2: I definitely, definitely they will buy tickets.
38:54
Speaker 4: They want to see it whenever that's understandable. Don't lie
38:57
Speaker 4: well good, be careful when you try to get any next.
39:00
Speaker 2: I don't know where you get.
39:01
Speaker 5: Oh my, I'm going right after the show today to
39:03
Speaker 5: see my Dennis who went to Marquette.
39:06
Speaker 3: Bring you get you get to focus on college troops
39:11
Speaker 3: because I feel bad for you on these.
39:13
Speaker 2: Bucks post games. Brother, I feel bad for you in
39:15
Speaker 2: those Bucks post games. So jumping on.
39:17
Speaker 6: So I've jumped down a little field of sixty eight,
39:19
Speaker 6: a little lockdown box.
39:20
Speaker 2: We'll talk about this, ya. You should not play again
39:25
Speaker 2: this year. Very just when I go, just when I go.
39:28
Speaker 2: I want to.
39:28
Speaker 5: I want to when you go, just when I go.
39:31
Speaker 5: If he's going to be gone in the summer, we
39:33
Speaker 5: need to. I want to see him. On the fifteenth
39:35
Speaker 5: when they played.
39:35
Speaker 2: The selfishly, Hey Butcher, thanks for having us in the den.
39:40
Speaker 5: This has been Butchy's den brought to It's a little
39:42
Speaker 5: huddle sprinkled in kind.
39:44
Speaker 2: Of we'll hit that YouTube subscribe. But what you dead
39:48
Speaker 2: I appreciate already. We're having fun, same thing we were
39:51
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39:58
Speaker 2: Got the number. All thanks Vince Cam There you go.
40:02
Speaker 2: Thanks Butcher, all right, jumping out with you guys. Thanks
40:06
Speaker 2: billamscribed and Butch. He's done. Enjoy his work.
40:08
Speaker 5: Next to Matt Leapey as the Badgers roll ahead. They're
40:11
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40:13
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40:15
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41:33
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41:40
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41:45
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41:48
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41:53
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41:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did that. A lot of fans there. How
41:58
Speaker 2: about that?
41:59
Speaker 4: You know the journey started on seventy sixth Street and
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Speaker 3: Come on now, just a lot of and but the
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Speaker 2: How long has he been there? Did he replace Bart Lundy?
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Speaker 5: I replaced Bart Lundy? Sir, Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah. All right, Hey,
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Speaker 5: tomorrow's hot take HEMP Day. We'll see at five am.
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Speaker 4: Peace.