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You've Already Missed Your Best Chance at Good Sex Today · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it is Saturday, May thirtieth, and whatever you do,
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Speaker 1: do not have sex tonight. You should have already had
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Speaker 1: it this morning. And with that, welcome to this episode
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Speaker 1: of Amy and DJ, an episode that the robes here
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Speaker 1: has been pretty excited to get into. I haven't done
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Speaker 1: a deep dive into this one, but they're telling us
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Speaker 1: robes and having sex at night is not the best
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Speaker 1: way to have good sex.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, yes, yes.
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Speaker 3: This comes from a psychologist and a sleep exter expert.
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Speaker 2: His name is doctor Michael Bruce.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm saying his name correctly, but
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Speaker 3: he posted something on X this month. He says, I've
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Speaker 3: been studying sleep for more than twenty years.
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Speaker 1: He's a sleep expert, not a sex expert, right, But he.
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Speaker 3: Says what he studies is the hormones what makes for
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Speaker 3: good sleep. And there are only two things you do
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Speaker 3: in bed, have sex and sleep, and so the hormones
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Speaker 3: involved with both are something he's been studying.
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Speaker 2: And he said everyone's doing it wrong.
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Speaker 1: They're doing it wrong. And when he say he's doing
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Speaker 1: it wrong, you're having sex at the wrong time.
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Speaker 3: Is that rerect timing is everything? Recording to this doctor Okay,
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Speaker 3: I'm listening. Okay, So research shows can you guess there
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Speaker 3: is an hour where most people are intimate. This is
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Speaker 3: the hour where almost all people, or at least the
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Speaker 3: majority of people, tend to have sex during this hour.
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Speaker 1: Uh, probably nine, ten, ten thirty before everybody goes to
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Speaker 1: bed somewhere in there.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so it's.
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Speaker 3: The hour between ten thirty and eleven thirty PM. Most
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Speaker 3: people are intimate right before they fall asleep, and so
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Speaker 3: that puts that window at ten thirty to eleven thirty pm.
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Speaker 3: We're already in deep sleep and ram sleep at that point,
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Speaker 3: but everyone's got different waking and sleeping patterns.
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Speaker 2: But basically the hour before you go to sleep.
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Speaker 1: But generally speaking, rome people get to that point in
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Speaker 1: the day most grown with grown folks problems. You're at
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Speaker 1: that point getting it over with sex is not an
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Speaker 1: experience at that point. Sex at that point is just
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Speaker 1: let's do this and let's go to bed. That's there's
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Speaker 1: like brushing your teeth at the end. It's just something
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Speaker 1: you gotta do. That does not make for a passionate
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Speaker 1: night at ten thirty after the day we just had. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a lot of energy in that
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Speaker 1: is it?
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Speaker 2: So you just made his point.
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Speaker 3: He said, the reason why most people have sex between
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Speaker 3: ten thirty and eleven thirty PM at night is because
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Speaker 3: number one, you're already in bed.
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Speaker 2: Number two, there are fewer interruptions.
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Speaker 3: From work, from your kids, you're not getting messages, you're
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Speaker 3: not getting notifications. And so it turns out it's more
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Speaker 3: about convenience than biology day.
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Speaker 2: That's where we're getting it wrong.
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Speaker 1: All right, Yes, the day is finally done, so I
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Speaker 1: guess let me seeze this in. That's awful. That's so awful.
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Speaker 3: That is what most people do. It's about convenience and opportunity.
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Speaker 3: Those two things come together at ten thirty at night
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Speaker 3: for most people.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but then both for the most part, when we
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Speaker 1: have conversations about sex and we see relationships and sex
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Speaker 1: highlighters in whether it's social media, whether it's on television,
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Speaker 1: well it's not about that. It's about connect seeing somebody
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Speaker 1: across the room getting hot for each other. Right, that's
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Speaker 1: what it's about. And we're perpetuating constantly that that's what
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Speaker 1: sex is about, some hot, passionate attraction.
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Speaker 3: So we'll have expectations and they are almost certainly not met.
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Speaker 2: When we choose to put convenience and.
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Speaker 3: Accessibility above that passion, above knowing what actually our bodies
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Speaker 3: are telling us is the right time to have the
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Speaker 3: best sex possible. I think we all want to have
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Speaker 3: good sex, and this doctor is saying it doesn't happen
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Speaker 3: at night.
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Speaker 2: And here's why, wait, not at all exactly.
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Speaker 3: Or hormones he says, are quote literally the opposite of
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Speaker 3: what makes for quote successful sex, a successful sex in
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Speaker 3: his passionate sex, satisfying sex, amazing sex. When you say, God,
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Speaker 3: that was amazing, it's rarely at nights.
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Speaker 1: What does he called the ten thirty at night sex? Then?
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Speaker 1: Convenience just convenient, it's an exercise in just getting it
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Speaker 1: over with.
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Speaker 3: Correct And look, I think a lot I think anyone
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Speaker 3: who's been in any sort of romantic relationship will tell
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Speaker 3: you that sex is a really important part of keeping
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Speaker 3: your relationship strong.
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Speaker 2: It is important.
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Speaker 3: It's not something to just say as an extra or
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Speaker 3: a bonus or a fun every now and then. I
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Speaker 3: think a lot of relationship experts will tell you need
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Speaker 3: to prioritize sex and what that sex is like matters.
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Speaker 1: By his argument, then it's possible that someone might think
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Speaker 1: they have a good sex life because they have sex often,
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Speaker 1: but they might be having bad sex. Correct, you're in
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Speaker 1: a bad s X relationship even though you had sex
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Speaker 1: five nights as we.
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Speaker 3: Can and maybe yes, just changing when you have sex
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Speaker 3: could make a huge difference. Here's the hormone situation at nights,
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Speaker 3: men and women, right, Okay, I'll get to both. So
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Speaker 3: at night estrogen low progesterone, progesterone low, adrenaline, low testosterone,
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Speaker 3: low cortisol, low, melatonin peaking.
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Speaker 2: It is the opposite.
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Speaker 3: It's where you don't want your hormones to be when
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Speaker 3: you are about to have sex.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So you just describe sleepy sex. Is that what
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Speaker 1: it was? You sit melotone?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have melotonin peaking, and everything else that would
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Speaker 3: make for good.
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Speaker 2: Sex is at its lowest level of the day.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and that all day that I'm awake, the lowest
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Speaker 1: level of all those.
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Speaker 3: Things need right before you go to bed, okay, seven am. Conversely,
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Speaker 3: cortisol surges fifty percent above its lowest level. Testosterone peaks
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Speaker 3: at seven am or when you wake up, it's about
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Speaker 3: thirty five percent above where it was when it was
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Speaker 3: at its lowest.
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Speaker 2: Your melatonin drops.
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Speaker 3: Basically he said this at seven am, and he is
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Speaker 3: the exact hormone stack you want for good sex, and
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Speaker 3: it's the stack you wake up with. So I say
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Speaker 3: seven am, but when you wake up, basically, your hormones
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Speaker 3: are at the best possible level they could be at
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Speaker 3: for the best possible sex you could have.
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Speaker 1: Did he give Also, you said most people have sex,
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Speaker 1: which did he give any indication of what percentages there
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Speaker 1: are out there? I mean, how often people are having more?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that. He was studying
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Speaker 3: hormones and then he did research with couples who were
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Speaker 3: having sex at different time, So I can give you.
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Speaker 1: Some of that.
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Speaker 3: But he pointed to hey, men, you know you have
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Speaker 3: morning erections. There's a reason why you have morning erections
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Speaker 3: because your testosterone is at its peak. That matters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a thing folks are aware of.
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Speaker 1: I don't think of. I don't hear too often somebody
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Speaker 1: breaking down the why.
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Speaker 3: It's the testosterone, and it says, by the way, this
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Speaker 3: is interesting. The surveys and the research he's done show
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Speaker 3: that couples report having better connection and better performance when
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Speaker 3: they have sex in the morning.
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Speaker 1: No kidding. You're rested, You're well rested. I'm not getting
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Speaker 1: you at the end of the night, when all energy
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Speaker 1: and life is out of you in interest, maybe might
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Speaker 1: be out of you. Yeah, first thing in the morning. Pop.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I think there's this romantic thought though, Like
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Speaker 3: you go out on a date, go to the movies,
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Speaker 3: you go to dinner, and you have a bottle of wine.
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Speaker 3: You've been looking and gazing at each other across the table,
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Speaker 3: and you finally get home and you're exhausted.
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Speaker 2: And you fall asleep. That's what kind of happened.
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Speaker 3: And then you feel guilty like I should have been
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Speaker 3: able to No, your biological clock is not set for
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Speaker 3: the best possible connection and performance when you have sex late.
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Speaker 2: At night period.
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Speaker 3: And I guess I just had never heard a scientist,
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Speaker 3: a researcher put it like this.
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Speaker 2: I also thought this was interesting.
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Speaker 3: According to his twenty years of sleep research, only thirty
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Speaker 3: percent of the population are actually night owls. That means
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Speaker 3: seventy percent of people tend to be I don't even
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Speaker 3: know if it's early birds, but have more of a
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Speaker 3: boost and a bounce.
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Speaker 1: In the morg Come me to thirty percent. What was that?
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Speaker 3: Thirty percent of the population are night owls, meaning they
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Speaker 3: have the majority of their energy at the end of
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Speaker 3: the day.
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Speaker 1: So as much as people complain about mourning, most of
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Speaker 1: the folks listening you are mourning people.
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Speaker 2: Most people are yes.
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Speaker 3: And then they say, even the people who are night owls,
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Speaker 3: this is interesting. In about thirty to forty five minutes
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Speaker 3: after waking, your cortisol curve and testosterones still peak. You
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Speaker 3: just maybe peak thirty four five minutes after you wake up,
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Speaker 3: so it might take you a little longer, you know
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Speaker 3: what you were saying, like, I'm not a morning person,
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Speaker 3: and I actually think maybe this might be me. It
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Speaker 3: takes me thirty to forty five minutes to kind of
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Speaker 3: get out of my fog, get out of my bunk,
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Speaker 3: get my coffee. And so they're saying, for those folks,
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Speaker 3: maybe forty five minutes after you wake up is the
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Speaker 3: perfect time to have sex. So you just kind of
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Speaker 3: you have to figure this out.
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Speaker 1: Okay, nobody, Okay, I will take a little I mean
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Speaker 1: practically speaking, nobody gets up, starts the day and then
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Speaker 1: goes back into the bed forty five minutes.
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Speaker 3: No, but if you maybe some people will wake up
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Speaker 3: and kind of roll around, Maybe they even scroll on
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Speaker 3: their phone, maybe they use the restroom, but like just
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Speaker 3: giving it a beat sometimes. But regardless, he's still saying
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Morning sex still trumps.
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Speaker 2: Now. I mentioned all these hormones. It's interesting what they mean.
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Speaker 3: So the estrogen levels for women, we said peak when
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Speaker 3: you wake up in the early hours.
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Speaker 2: But what does estrogen do for women?
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Speaker 3: It increases sexual desire and lubrication. So you're gonna have
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Speaker 3: you're gonna want sex more, and you're gonna have better
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Speaker 3: sex because of that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, swear that makes sense. He just said hornier and
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Speaker 1: wetter in a more clinical way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to avoid that.
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Speaker 3: Testosterone obviously peaks in the morning for men, as we
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Speaker 3: pointed out, that leads to a high sex drive and
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Speaker 3: better performance.
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Speaker 1: Okay, better better erections. Okay, let's see, you're saying some
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Speaker 1: weird stuff here, clinical scientific, it's Saturday. This isn't Sunday morning.
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Speaker 1: It's okay.
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Speaker 3: And then I mentioned cortisol and adrenaline levels are higher. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: that wakes you up, it excites you, it gives you energy.
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Speaker 2: So if you combine, basically.
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Speaker 3: You have increased sexual desire, increased uh performance, ability, and
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Speaker 3: you're excited just in general, your your adrenaline level, your
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Speaker 3: cortisol levels are up. That is the perfect combination for
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Speaker 3: the best possible sex of the day.
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Speaker 2: You're raring to go exactly.
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Speaker 1: That's what. However, does he does he make any point
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Speaker 1: about or is there any point to be made? Do
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Speaker 1: people want to have sex in the morning.
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Speaker 3: Maybe we're not conditioned to think about that. We're thinking
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Speaker 3: about it later in the day after we've been romanced.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking about terrible breath. I'm thinking about no makeup,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about people need a moment. I'm thinking about
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Speaker 1: all these things to where your body might be primed,
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Speaker 1: but your body visually you might not think is rare
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Speaker 1: and it.
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Speaker 3: Go Okay, that's really funny you mentioned that, because he
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Speaker 3: also did address that. And so what he suggested is, yes,
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Speaker 3: you get up, you go freshen up, and you get oh,
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Speaker 3: because he said that was the biggest complaint was morning breath.
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Speaker 3: Really yep, And so he said easily remedied. You get up, bunny,
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Speaker 3: brush your teeth, maybe wash your face, maybe straighten whatever
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Speaker 3: you want to do. I mean I've done that plenty
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Speaker 3: of times. You get back into bed, and you say,
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Speaker 3: but if you prioritize it and recognize that your body
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Speaker 3: is actually going to experience better sex, You're going to
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Speaker 3: be better connected with your partner. What do you have
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Speaker 3: to jump up, take five minutes, do what you need
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Speaker 3: to do in the bathroom, and come back to bed.
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Speaker 2: And if people actually prioritize.
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Speaker 3: And may I hate to say a schedule, but know that, hey,
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Speaker 3: this is something we do a lot of mornings, especially
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Speaker 3: on the weekends, when you don't have to be anywhere,
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Speaker 3: it makes sense and your sex will be better period,
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Speaker 3: scientifically prove it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know does that take away? Does he addresses
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Speaker 1: all that's spontaneity? It's different. That does sound like planning.
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Speaker 1: That does sound like a different thing versus rolling over
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Speaker 1: and your partner's hand is on your thigh unexpectedly and
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Speaker 1: it's something spontaneous versus you don't have to make out
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Speaker 1: the planning of it all. And yes, what where does
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Speaker 1: does that play into it? I mean the making out part.
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Speaker 1: There is some.
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Speaker 2: In the morning making out. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't why because your breath, yes, smells serraple. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so there are some He addressed some of it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he just.
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Speaker 2: Said, brush your teeth is not that hard. All right.
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we're gonna tell you what couples
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Speaker 3: said about having sex in the morning and how they
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Speaker 3: felt differently than they did at night, and what happens
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Speaker 3: if you're a mismatched couple, an early bird Mary's or
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Speaker 3: is in a relationship with the night owl.
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Speaker 1: What do you do then see at noon?
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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 3: I'm laughing because TJ went into the break yelling, see
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Speaker 3: you at noon, and you're not terribly wrong.
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Speaker 1: Is that there is a compromise.
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll get into that, but I actually loved hearing
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Speaker 2: what he said.
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Speaker 3: Couples related to him after they made a decision to
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Speaker 3: prioritize sex in the morning versus in the evening. So
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Speaker 3: women reported that morning sex made them feel more emotionally present,
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Speaker 3: more connected, with more energy to engage, initiate.
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Speaker 2: And enjoy more.
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Speaker 3: Women were likely to initiate sex in the morning because
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Speaker 3: they felt more energy, they felt more enjoyment, and once
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Speaker 3: you get into this habit, it feels good and women
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Speaker 3: will like I think men complain about that a lot,
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Speaker 3: that women don't initiate sex as much he's saying that
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Speaker 3: when you get into this pattern or this habit, women
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Speaker 3: will initiate more.
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Speaker 1: In the morning. Yes, oh yeah, that would make sense
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Speaker 1: that there is a better performance and interests from a
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Speaker 1: woman who was rested and ready to go and did
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Speaker 1: not just go through all that crap at work with
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Speaker 1: that crappy boss and dealt with those kids and getting
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Speaker 1: that food ready and oh my goodness, saw the soccer
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Speaker 1: uniforms clean. Yes, she's in the morning. You need to
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Speaker 1: catch her in the morning right before all that.
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Speaker 3: And that's a really interesting note. And also I love
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Speaker 3: that women. The first thing that just I don't know
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Speaker 3: if the order mattered, but the first thing that he
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Speaker 3: said women said they felt was more emotionally present and connected.
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Speaker 3: The first thing men said is they performed better. That
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Speaker 3: reads that they felt good because they performed better and
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Speaker 3: had more desire. That's what they reported feeling with morning sex. Okay,
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Speaker 3: they could last longer.
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Speaker 2: I guess is what that is?
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Speaker 1: No, you threw that in there. Where did they actually
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Speaker 1: say is.
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Speaker 2: That it was better? No, I just misperformed better. I
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Speaker 2: threw in the lasted longer.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, they felt good about what just occurred, mismatched couples.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you implied noon.
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Speaker 3: The idea is to find compromised zones, is how he
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Speaker 3: put it. So maybe you just decide to have a
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Speaker 3: slightly earlier evening slot or a later morning time. And
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Speaker 3: obviously people's schedules are different, and weekends allow for some
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Speaker 3: some people during the week, it's just not possible with kids. Look,
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Speaker 3: I say early morning sects. Some people's kids get up
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Speaker 3: at five am and jump in their beds. Some people
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Speaker 3: have their kids sleeping with them. Sometimes early mornings aren't
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Speaker 3: possible during the week, but on the weekends you do.
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Speaker 2: Have some flexibility.
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Speaker 3: So they say, just make it a priority, an earlier
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Speaker 3: evening slot, maybe before you go to dinner or before
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Speaker 3: you hit brunch, but just find the time.
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Speaker 2: And you have to have these conversations.
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Speaker 1: Oh so this requires planning. You actually have to say, hey,
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Speaker 1: before we go out tonight, let's have sex.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get.
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Speaker 3: Into a pattern and you find what works for you
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Speaker 3: where you both are into it works.
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Speaker 1: But what if you go into the bathroom while she's
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Speaker 1: in there, still in her towel, putting makeup on, and
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Speaker 1: you start kissing her neck. I'm saying that is different
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Speaker 1: than the planning it takes some I don't know, maybe
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Speaker 1: I am a little too much romanticized about how this
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Speaker 1: is supposed to go with the planning. It seems to
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Speaker 1: it could lead to better I guess the point.
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Speaker 3: Being is you have the conversation, not hey, babe, can
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Speaker 3: we have sex now because it's later morning and I
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Speaker 3: feel like my cronotype is perfectly aligned now for sex
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Speaker 3: at this moment. No, But I think if you have
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Speaker 3: a general understanding of when you prefer sex or when
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Speaker 3: you feel at your best for sex, you can have
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Speaker 3: that conversation outside of any sex and then.
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Speaker 1: Yes, when the moment happens is.
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Speaker 3: Not, then yeah, come up behind your wife when she's
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Speaker 3: putting on her makeup and kiss her neck and you'll
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Speaker 3: know this is typically, you know, when we like to
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Speaker 3: have sex where it works for both of us, and
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Speaker 3: you don't have to have a conversation, but you just
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Speaker 3: there's a knowing.
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Speaker 2: And so they talked about this.
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Speaker 3: Once you understand each other's hormonal profile, your chronotype, meaning
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Speaker 3: when you're most awake and alive and feeling good, there
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Speaker 3: are absolutely for every couple what he calls overlapping windows. Course,
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Speaker 3: so just because someone's a morning person and someone's a
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Speaker 3: night person. Doesn't mean you don't have overlapping windows where
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Speaker 3: you both are feeling frisky hormonally based on your literal
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Speaker 3: hormones that are.
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Speaker 2: In your body. Like that, it matters.
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Speaker 3: So he just said people do not They haven't considered
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Speaker 3: how important timing is. Timing is everything, and once you
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Speaker 3: know your partner's timing, you can initiate sex and have
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Speaker 3: a better result of it being reciprocated and having a
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Speaker 3: better experience all together. And it makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 3: I never even thought about that. So he's saying, have
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Speaker 3: the conversation outside of the bedroom and get to know
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Speaker 3: when that person is typically feeling their best, and then
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Speaker 3: that's when you should have sex.
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Speaker 1: Well, you use the word frisky, and I kind of
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Speaker 1: got stuck on that. Don't hear that often? That's cute frisky?
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Speaker 1: Are you feeling frisky? Geez?
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Speaker 3: Anyway, I thought this was cool, and look, people were interested.
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Speaker 3: He just puts something up on X has a million views,
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Speaker 3: Like immediately people want to have better sex. That makes
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Speaker 3: a lot of sense. And this guy says, Hey, it's
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Speaker 3: all about the timing.
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Speaker 1: That's interesting. You don't have to do that's not a
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Speaker 1: big adjustment. It's never have to change something or find
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Speaker 1: out learn some new tricks, go to a sextore. No,
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Speaker 1: you don't need anything, just the clock. Yeah, different timing, all.
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Speaker 3: Right, And so we hope this helps everybody enjoy You're welcome.
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Speaker 2: No, we want to thank this doctor.
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Speaker 3: He did all the research, but we always appreciate you
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Speaker 3: listening to us.
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Speaker 2: I may be Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to
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Speaker 2: you soon.