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Anointing Oil is More Serious Than You Think · Heaven & Healing Podcast

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  It's all out war. We got a spiritual war
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  going on and we got the kids acting up.
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  [music] We got the devil trying to hit
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  the marriage, finances being attacked.
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  People think that it's normal for their
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  children to have nightmares. It is not
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  normal for your children to have
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  nightmares. The enemy is messing with
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  your children as they [music] sleep. I
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  drew this bloodline and I said,
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  "Whatever is working through my husband
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  to get to me, I draw [music] this
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  bloodline and it can't come over here.
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  You're not welcome in here." ex witches
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  that don't mind disclosing the work that
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  they've done. [music] They're like, "We
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  get sent on assignment to this
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  Christian, that Christian, and we can't
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  penetrate their home because there's
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  like a force field up there." When you
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  draw that bloodline, what you're doing
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  is you're putting up a fence around your
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  [music] property, a fence of angels. And
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  you got the devil over there like, "Hey,
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  what's going on? There ain't nothing for
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  you over here. Go back on your side." He
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  didn't push [music] back when you were
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  using sage, but he pushes back the
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  second you want to use anointing oil.
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  [music] When you finally step into your
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  authority, he's going to push back. If
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  you don't fully enforce and obey God's
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  word, you're not a threat to the enemy.
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  [music] That he is going to constantly
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  have his way. The warfare in this
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  pregnancy has been so intense. And I
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  know it's because of [music] who I'm
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  carrying, but I also know it's because
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  of what I'm carrying. There are times
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  when the devil in warfare, [music] he's
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  playing his mess. And I go, "Do you know
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  who my daddy is?" I want to remind you
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  who he is. And then I want to remind you
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  who I am. I hope it burns [music] when
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  you cross that bloodline.
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  Today I have the honor of welcoming
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  Apostle Joanna Beck here with me. She is
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  a wife, she is a mother, she is an
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  author, she is a business owner, she is
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  a mentor, she is all of the things. A
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  jack of all trades and a master of all
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  of them. [laughter]
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  Uh she's someone that I have personally
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  had the privilege to learn from
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  one-on-one, to cultivate a friendship
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  with, a sisterhood with. Um she has two
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  amazing daughters that are very sweet
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  with my little toddler. So, I always
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  appreciate that. But I've wanted to host
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  her for quite some time now. I'm really
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  looking forward to this conversation as
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  I know not only myself, but a lot of you
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  that watch the channel come out of new
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  age and we all have questions about what
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  warfare looks like coming out of that
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  lifestyle,
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  particularly when it comes to things
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  like anointing oil because there can be
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  a lot of confusion surrounding that
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  issue. and just overall what it what it
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  does look like for us to step into our
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  authority in Christ as women. And so
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  we're going to talk about all the things
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  today. So I'm just going to hand it over
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  to her. Thank you for coming.
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  >> Oh, you're welcome. It's [clears throat]
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  an honor to be here with you.
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  >> Yeah,
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  >> I am. I do all of those things. all of
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  those things and teach on, you know, I
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  think the biggest thing and you don't
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  like it's like you have so many
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  different denominations and different
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  groups and everybody's, you know, like,
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  oh, well, we're known for this and we're
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  known for this and it's like, well, here
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  I am. I'm known for teaching people how
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  to kick the enemy out of their house and
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  and what warfare really looks like and
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  the
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  >> best thing.
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  >> It really is. It's like, but it's not
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  what I thought it was going to be, you I
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  thought I'd just be known for faith, but
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  it takes faith to do
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  >> it does
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  >> this cuz it's activated with faith.
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  >> And so, you know, I didn't I wasn't
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  raised um didn't come out of new wasn't
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  in new age, but was in religion.
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  >> So, I was raised a Jehovah's Witness
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  till I was about 10 years old. And my
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  grandmother completely flipped the
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  script and goes,
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  "I want to know something." She was
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  actually watching Joyce Meyers on TV.
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  >> Oh, wow.
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  >> And she was started questioning
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  everything that she was taught which
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  then changed everything that I was
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  taught and um she stopped going accepted
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  Jesus as her Lord and Savior pulled me
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  out of public school put me in private
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  Christian school I got saved filled with
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  the Holy Spirit got my prayer language
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  everything allin one within five minutes
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  of itself
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  >> um but I wasn't discipled so then I
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  wasn't taught like how to do everything
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  what this really looks like to follow
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  the Lord I was a believer but I wasn't a
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  follower and um and married my husband
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  and you know that first year marriage
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  can be really rough when you're blending
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  everything and you know merging your two
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  lives together and we were we were not
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  getting along the best and I had seek
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  wise counsel and aka my mother-in-law at
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  the time and she um told me to anoint my
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  home and I had no idea what I was doing
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  with anointing my home. No idea what
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  that looked like. And she's like, "Just
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  get the oil, pray over it, and you
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  declare and draw a bloodline that
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  nothing can cross here." And I I did it.
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  But I was still battling so many things
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  at the time. I I battled rejection so
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  bad at the time. Well, he came home from
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  work and then didn't talk while like he
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  was silent. And I'm like, "Man, what did
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  I do? I really messed up this time." not
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  knowing that the enemy is going to give
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  you push back. When you finally step
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  into your authority, he's going to push
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  back. And so I anointed and that ended
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  up shifting everything. Cuz I drew this
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  bloodline and I said, "Whatever is
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  working through my husband to get to me.
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  Whatever is attacking my husband, I draw
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  this bloodline and it can't come over
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  here." And it had to stay on the other
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  side. You're not allowed. You're not
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  welcome in here. Now I know, oh, I send
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  it all the way. But at the time, I
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  didn't. I just drew that blood
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  bloodline. But that was my first in
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  stepping into anointing.
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  >> Obviously, if someone has a demon that
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  needs to be cast out,
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  >> anointing can only go so far. But even
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  still, like I tell people, you know,
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  they're like, "Oh, my husband needs to
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  be delivered from rejection, from
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  perversion." And I'm like, "Anoint his
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  pillow."
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  >> Yep. and just like so that kind of stuff
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  in in that sense it can be effective to
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  >> almost uh just encourage the eventual
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  deliverance, right?
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  >> Well, what you're doing is you're
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  setting a space for the Holy Spirit to
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  work.
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  >> When you anoint the pillow, you anoint
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  the bed, you anoint the home in general,
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  like you can literally anoint everything
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  that that is your husband's. I tell
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  women that their husbands are um having
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  affairs, stuff like that. Anoint their
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  underwear.
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  >> Wow. anoint everything that there all
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  you are doing is creating a space and
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  drawing a bloodline telling the enemy
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  that this is off limits to you. This
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  belongs to God. It's being set apart for
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  God and Holy Spirit have your way. So
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  when you anoint their pillow, you're
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  literally as a wife, you're creating
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  that space for the Holy Spirit to come
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  and to work on him while he's asleep.
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  Even though he needs deliverance, he the
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  Holy Spirit can take him through
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  deliverance without anybody laying hands
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  on him. That's true.
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  >> He could lay there and the Holy Spirit
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  do all the work. So for people like me
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  who do come out of that world of
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  witchcraft. So you have you have that,
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  but then you also do have people that
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  come out of the same world as you, which
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  is religion.
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  >> And those two things have something in
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  common, which is that they hate the
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  power of the Holy Spirit.
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  >> So I think that they might find some
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  common ground just a religious
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  background really dry or a new age
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  background just saturated with the
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  demonic realm. What about anointing oil
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  distinguishes it from the practice of
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  witchcraft?
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  >> When anointing oil is all about Jesus
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  >> and all about the power and authority
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  for from God,
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  witchcraft and new age and all of that
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  is all the power of yourself.
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  >> It's not the authority that God has
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  given you.
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  >> And we obviously see a biblical
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  precedent for it.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> You know, like things like sage, you
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  don't. And that's that's how I used to
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  cleanse my home
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  >> when we Michael and I moved into our old
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  house.
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  >> He never cared about any of the new age
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  stuff that I did. But it was so funny
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  because I made it a point to sage the
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  whole home before we had any furniture
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  in. And he doesn't talk like this, but
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  he says, "This is so weird, but I feel
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  like we're like actually inviting
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  demons." And I got so offended. I was
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  like, "No, don't even say that. That's
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  not what we're doing. We're clearing the
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  energy. we're clearing the space. And so
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  that's just the world that I came from.
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  And then when I became a believer and I
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  heard people start talking about oil and
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  we were talking pre-roll, you're
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  probably one of those people that
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  introduced me to the practice in a way
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  that I I it did resonate as okay, this
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  is actually biblical. This isn't weird.
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  This isn't witchcraft. This isn't some
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  unnecessary ritual. Like there is power
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  in this. there isn't even I would say
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  maybe a necessity in it which we can
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  talk about.
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  >> Um but I think that that's really what
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  it comes down to as far as like
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  distinction goes is we see a biblical
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  precedent for oil even in the New
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  Testament. Right.
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  >> Yep.
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  >> So is that always just your response to
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  people cuz do you get this push back a
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  lot that people ask like come at you
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  about how this is like a weird ritual,
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  this is witchcraft, this is whatever.
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  I'll get some people will call it
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  witchcraft. Some people will say like,
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  oh, you know, that's not necessary that,
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  you know, Jesus took care of everything,
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  but yet you had the disciples that were
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  anointing with oil if Jesus took care of
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  everything. Then then the disciples
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  wouldn't have done it after Jesus,
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  >> you know, went back. But um I so I get
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  push back on all different areas. My
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  response is always read your word. Read
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  the word. Let the Holy Spirit reveal it
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  to you. Don't just take don't just take
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  my word for it. Do your own digging in
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  what it is. And I've also, you know,
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  I've written books on that give the back
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  the biblical backing for it all. So you
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  can go and look and read and study
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  >> and um so that's I I I want people to
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  read their word about it. But there is
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  the push back on on all the areas
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  because somebody's the the enemy. And
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  when you think about it, he didn't push
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  back when you were using sage.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> But he pushes back the second you want
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  to use anointing oil. We just got to
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  like open up our, you know, goggles here
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  and be like, "Wait, why didn't you have
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  a problem with me doing this, but you
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  have a problem with me doing this?
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  You're going to give me push back for
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  this."
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  >> Yeah. It's so interesting like all the
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  things that
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  >> people do have a problem with. in
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  Christianity
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  >> and it's always it's always things that
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  are
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  woven into
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  kind of partnering with the Holy Spirit.
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  >> It's like he almost doesn't have a place
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  in Christianity, which is so weird
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  because
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  >> that's how we're saved.
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  >> Yeah. He's the spirit of God. We need
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  it.
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  >> So, can you talk about just just in
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  terms of oil? Um because I would have
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  said I guess with like my saging stuff
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  that there's like particles in the sage
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  that actually does cleanse the air on
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  like a biological scientific level. So
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  there was a physical component to it as
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  well as a supernatural component to it.
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  But with oil, is it like the oil itself
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  or is it just the faith? Like does it
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  matter if it's oil that someone's prayed
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  over or could it literally just be like
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  olive oil from the kitchen? It can be
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  olive oil from the kitchen. It can be
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  Pam. Like you can literally I mean get
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  Pam. It It does need Now you do it does
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  need to be prayed over. You can't just
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  grab it and use it. But oil is only a
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  point of contact the same way that
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  prayer cloths were. They were only a
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  point of contact for your faith. Now, if
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  you get to I mean, again, obedience to
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  the Holy Spirit is what's going to be
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  the the key here of if the Holy Spirit
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  says you need anointing oil, by all
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  means, you have to use anointing oil. If
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  he says your faith is enough right here,
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  then by all means, your faith is enough
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  right here. So, you have to be
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  spiritled, which is what we want
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  everyone to be, but you can use what
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  because there's and again, it's the the
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  level of your faith that there are some
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  that are confident and they can take
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  olive oil and they can set it apart and
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  which you have to set it apart. Don't
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  get the one that you you're cooking with
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  and even if you do that, pour it into
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  another thing. Set it apart that this is
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  only for anointing. I'm not going to go
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  and then cook with this. I mean, if you
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  do, they're going to be blessed, but
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  you're you're um don't so you're setting
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  it apart like that. But not everyone has
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  that level of faith.
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  >> Okay?
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  >> So, some people need to receive it from
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  a trusted ministry, a trusted pastor.
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  Don't just go buy anointing oil off of
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  Amazon because you don't know who's
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  praying over it and what you're getting.
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  You don't know. And so if your faith is
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  not to where you could set apart the oil
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  for yourself, then it is available. The
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  Lord has commanded people like myself to
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  make it available to people that don't
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  have that level of faith yet.
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  >> Yeah, that's really good. I'm glad you
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  said that. Do not just buy any oil
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  >> from anybody because a witch could be
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  praying over
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  >> Exactly. Yeah.
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  >> You have no idea. You're ordering off
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  Amazon thinking that you got this
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  blessed holy anointing oil from
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  Jerusalem and it's really coming from a
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  witch in Washington.
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  >> You're probably better off with your
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  like little faith just trying to do it
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  than you are
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  >> getting the bottle of Pam and spraying
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  it. [laughter]
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  >> Wow. Is there like a Isn't there a
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  recipe in the Old Testament that they
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  used? Is that how you make yours? Um, so
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  mine is, you know, olive oil,
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  frankincense, and and myrrh, but I don't
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  put all of the other ingredients in it
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  because we're I mean, you can make it
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  like that.
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  >> Um, it is you don't have to make it like
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  that. You can use just olive oil. Again,
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  it's the it it is the act of faith is
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  the most important
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  >> thing. Your faith your faith is what
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  gives power to it. Without faith, it is
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  just oil.
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  >> It's activated by the faith. But what
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  does the oil represent or symbolize
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  through your faith? The blood.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> Yep.
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  >> And that's kind of like Old Testament
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  blood of the lamb on the doorpost.
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  Spirit of death has to go right over.
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  Same thing.
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  >> Is there a way to do it? Is there a way
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  to anoint your home? Like
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  >> I guess the right way for lack of a
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  better word.
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  >> Holy Spiritled. That is the that is the
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  right way. But some people, again, we
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  make resources available because not
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  everyone is spiritledd. Not everyone
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  knows how to hear the voice of the Holy
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  Spirit yet. Not everyone is listening to
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  the voice of the Holy Spirit yet. And
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  so, we have resources that will walk you
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  through what that looks like. Anointing
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  your front door, anointing your window
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  sills, anointing your bedrooms, your
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  children's bedrooms, for what reasons
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  you're battling something like what's
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  going on? Or you're just setting your
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  home apart for the Lord. Um, so there's
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  all different, you know,
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  ways to do it, but the biggest way is
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  just be Holy Spirit led and use the word
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  of God.
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  >> You see the opposite. You see
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  disunityity. You see um strife, turmoil
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  in your home. will find the scriptures
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  that declare peace that are declaring
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  unity and and peace and and all the fl
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  the Holy Spirit flowing throughout your
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  home and having his way in your home.
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  You find those scriptures and you are
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  literally declaring that as you are
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  anointing. I I appreciate that you said
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  that because I I am someone I don't know
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  if it's because of where I come from,
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  but I do have an inclination where I can
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  get into like a tendency to almost it
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  has to be like step one, step two, step
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  two. Like you almost
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  >> find a ritualization to it when it's
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  it's not supposed to be that at all. It
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  really is just there's no formula to the
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  Holy Spirit. Just
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  >> listen to him. Just listen to him. I
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  mean, I even see that in in SA like she
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  she has seen us anoint the home [snorts]
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  >> and now she asks for it. She says, "Oil,
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  oil, oil, pray, pray, pray." So, I just
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  put it on her hand and I just watch her.
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  I'm like, she's just being led.
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  >> She just walks up to the door, slaps her
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  hand on it,
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  >> and and she says, "Go." And that's it.
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  I'm like, "Amen. That's that's all we
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  got to do." Amen. Amen. But we all we
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  all walk through. There's times when
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  I've anointed the home and it looks it
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  might look a little more traditional
• 16:35
  because I'm dedicating my home to the
• 16:37
  Lord. I'm making sure that that
• 16:39
  bloodline is drawn and the enemy is not
• 16:42
  going to cross it and this home belong
• 16:44
  this home
• 16:45
  >> for me in my house. We will serve the
• 16:47
  Lord. That's what I'm drawing right
• 16:48
  there. But then there's other times when
• 16:51
  it's all out war,
• 16:52
  >> okay? And we got a spiritual war going
• 16:54
  on and we got the kids acting up and we
• 16:57
  got the devil trying to hit the marriage
• 16:59
  and we've got finances being attacked
• 17:02
  and every all different areas that he
• 17:04
  can try to hit. Well, then I'm in war
• 17:06
  mode and I'm I'm literally anointing the
• 17:10
  home, declaring the word of God,
• 17:12
  whatever the Holy Spirit brings to to
• 17:15
  remembrance, which is why when we read
• 17:17
  his word, we go, "Write this on my
• 17:19
  heart. Bring it back to me, you know,
• 17:21
  when I need it." And so he brings it
• 17:23
  back up and I'm praying in the spirit
• 17:25
  and declaring his word.
• 17:27
  >> That's good. So there's different um
• 17:31
  times and seasons for oil.
• 17:34
  >> So there would be warfare and you you
• 17:36
  said dedication.
• 17:38
  >> It's like that
• 17:39
  >> setting something apart the same way
• 17:40
  that the
• 17:42
  >> the disciples would Well, we we look at
• 17:45
  uh when David was set apart in the in
• 17:47
  the scripture, he was anointed with oil
• 17:49
  and he was set apart. Wow. Okay. Is
• 17:53
  there any other instance
• 17:55
  like to con like consecrate? Is
• 17:57
  consecration really the same as
• 17:59
  dedication to set apart?
• 18:00
  >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're con the
• 18:02
  just the same thing with your life.
• 18:03
  You're consecrating yourself. You're
• 18:05
  setting yourself apart for the Lord.
• 18:07
  >> Okay. And so what are some I mean you
• 18:09
  just named some, but what what would be
• 18:10
  some signs that it's probably time for
• 18:14
  you to go into war mode and to take this
• 18:17
  seriously?
• 18:18
  >> Kids acting up. um disunityity, strife,
• 18:22
  turmoil going on in your home. Um any
• 18:26
  marriage problems, any any division in
• 18:29
  the marriage um with the finances, any
• 18:32
  lack in finances. If you're not seeing
• 18:35
  abundance come forth in the finances the
• 18:38
  way that it may have in the past or the
• 18:40
  way that the Lord has showed you that
• 18:41
  it's going to, you would set apart your
• 18:44
  finances for that. You would anoint your
• 18:46
  finances that way. Um, not being able to
• 18:50
  sleep, any night terrors, uh, sleep
• 18:52
  paralysis, that's a big one. Um, d
• 18:56
  nightmares in your children. People
• 18:59
  think that it's normal for their
• 19:00
  children to have nightmares. It is not
• 19:01
  normal for your children to have
• 19:02
  nightmares. Your ch, the enemy is
• 19:04
  messing with your children as they
• 19:06
  sleep.
• 19:07
  >> Um, if you are being woken up and you
• 19:10
  know that it's not the Holy Spirit
• 19:11
  waking you up. So, the Holy Spirit will
• 19:13
  wake you up and impress upon you to pray
• 19:16
  at night. That's a very common thing.
• 19:18
  But then there's times when you're just
• 19:20
  woken up and you are agitated or can't
• 19:22
  sleep, but you're you know what what is
• 19:25
  it? Um
• 19:27
  people have that insomnia.
• 19:30
  >> Yeah, I was starting to think
• 19:32
  >> I was trying to think of it that but
• 19:33
  insomnia. You're battling. That's that
• 19:35
  is not biblical. that's that is not of
• 19:38
  God because scripture actually says that
• 19:40
  it's one of his promises to us that we
• 19:43
  would get sound sleep and we would wake
• 19:44
  up feeling rested and restored and
• 19:47
  renewed. And so if something goes
• 19:49
  against God's word then that is where
• 19:52
  you would say hold up the devil's
• 19:56
  playing over here and we got to kick him
• 19:58
  out. Is it necessary to like understand
• 20:00
  the assignment like oh this is a python
• 20:02
  spirit this is a this is witchcraft or
• 20:06
  is it just more important to have the
• 20:08
  faith that through this act whatever it
• 20:11
  is I don't care what its name is I'm
• 20:13
  kicking it out it's it's more important
• 20:15
  just to kick it out. I always look at
• 20:18
  the knowing if something is python or
• 20:22
  witchcraft or leviathan is something
• 20:24
  like that. I always look at that as a
• 20:26
  need to know. The Holy Spirit will tell
• 20:28
  you if that is what you're dealing with.
• 20:31
  If not, then you just get rid of it. It
• 20:34
  doesn't belong there.
• 20:35
  >> Yeah. And the best way to do that is the
• 20:37
  word of God because that's the sword and
• 20:39
  that's the offensive weapon.
• 20:40
  >> Okay.
• 20:41
  >> So, now you mentioned I wanted to go
• 20:42
  back to the finance thing.
• 20:44
  >> What does what does anointing your
• 20:47
  finances look like? Like how does how do
• 20:49
  you do that? Anointing your finances is
• 20:51
  literally you just lay you're laying
• 20:53
  your your debit card, your checkbook,
• 20:56
  your bills out in front of you and you
• 20:59
  are so your your mortgage out in front
• 21:02
  of you, your um your bank statements out
• 21:04
  in front of you and you are putting a
• 21:07
  little bit of anointing oil and just
• 21:09
  Father, I dedicate my finances
• 21:12
  all to you and I'm asking you to move
• 21:15
  here where where in a way that I can't
• 21:18
  even see it, Father, right now, but I'm
• 21:20
  asking you to move and I'm dedicating
• 21:21
  this to you and I'm going to and then we
• 21:23
  always got to do our part. So that
• 21:24
  little that pushing that faith for
• 21:27
  stewardship, we got to do our part. We
• 21:29
  got we have to be good stewards as well.
• 21:31
  Father, strengthen me in stewardship.
• 21:33
  >> Wow.
• 21:34
  >> Show me. I thank you, Father, that I
• 21:36
  have an obedient heart in everything
• 21:38
  that you're showing me to do. Areas that
• 21:40
  you tell me to pull back, areas that you
• 21:42
  tell me to push forward.
• 21:43
  >> Yeah, that's good. Do you ever anoint
• 21:45
  yourself or do you like have your
• 21:47
  husband do that?
• 21:48
  >> Um So, I've I've anointed myself. So, I
• 21:52
  actually used to deal with sleep
• 21:53
  paralysis years ago before I ever
• 21:56
  stepped into ministry. I dealt with
• 21:58
  sleep paralysis and I um took that same
• 22:02
  of anointing the home. I did because
• 22:06
  again, I didn't know I was still
• 22:07
  learning the word. And so, I anointed
• 22:10
  myself every night before I went to
• 22:12
  sleep. So that way in declaring that I
• 22:15
  have the mind of Christ, that I think
• 22:17
  God thoughts, that I dream God dreams,
• 22:19
  that I'm protected by the blood of Jesus
• 22:22
  from the top of my head to the soles of
• 22:24
  my feet. I thank you, Father, that I
• 22:26
  will have godly dreams and that the
• 22:28
  devil cannot hit me while I'm sleeping.
• 22:30
  And I started anointing myself and
• 22:32
  praying that every single night. And it
• 22:35
  wasn't but a few nights in of doing that
• 22:37
  and I was delivered from sleep
• 22:39
  paralysis.
• 22:39
  >> That's amazing. Yeah, I've seen for sure
• 22:42
  I've seen the fruit of consistency with
• 22:46
  it in our own household. Amen.
• 22:48
  >> Goes back to what you were saying about
• 22:49
  the nightmares there. There was this
• 22:51
  season where SA was just waking up
• 22:53
  >> screaming, not like normal baby where's
• 22:56
  mommy screams and I just knew like you
• 22:58
  just get the Holy Spirit tells you. I
• 23:00
  was like this is not normal.
• 23:02
  >> And then I started anointing her before
• 23:04
  bed, her crib, the room and the house of
• 23:06
  course. But I was like mainly focused
• 23:08
  just on the crib and on her head and
• 23:10
  then that just stopped and all of oh
• 23:11
  we're sleeping 13 hour stretches again.
• 23:14
  >> And I I never want to be, you know,
• 23:16
  people get so caught up in you don't
• 23:18
  want to overspiritualize things. Well, I
• 23:20
  don't ever want to unspiritualize
• 23:22
  something
• 23:23
  >> and let the devil have any foothold to
• 23:26
  my family,
• 23:27
  >> to my home, or to my life. I even anoint
• 23:30
  the technology. We were talking pre-roll
• 23:32
  about all the warfare against the
• 23:33
  technology and Mike freaks out. She's
• 23:35
  like, "You can't get oil on this stuff."
• 23:37
  I'm like, "I don't care. It's get it's
• 23:39
  getting anointed."
• 23:41
  >> Amen.
• 23:43
  >> What does it What does it look like? Um,
• 23:46
  while we're on the subject of children
• 23:47
  to anoint your children and other than
• 23:50
  like the nightmares and
• 23:52
  >> and things like that, what are some
• 23:54
  signs when you say like acting out
• 23:56
  >> that they are under some sort of attack
• 23:59
  where the authority needs to be
• 24:00
  implemented?
• 24:01
  >> Well, with children, I've seen and even
• 24:03
  with my own children. So the if anytime
• 24:05
  the spirit of rebellion wants to arise,
• 24:08
  >> wow.
• 24:08
  >> And so when rebellion is arising,
• 24:10
  whether that is talking back, whether
• 24:12
  that is blatantly not wanting to do what
• 24:14
  they're asked to do, that could be with
• 24:16
  you or it could be with other family
• 24:18
  members. You see it with teachers,
• 24:20
  whichever it may be, but that one you
• 24:22
  want, you literally need to anoint them
• 24:25
  and kick that spirit out of their life.
• 24:27
  You have no rule here. These children, I
• 24:29
  have authority over these children. Um,
• 24:32
  and then, uh, we anoint them also for
• 24:36
  protection. We look at the world that
• 24:37
  we're living in right now,
• 24:39
  >> and not everybody is able to homeschool
• 24:43
  and so they have to send their children
• 24:45
  to school. Well, this takes faith to
• 24:47
  send your children to school right now.
• 24:49
  And it also, so you need to do
• 24:51
  everything on your part of this is
• 24:54
  protection. So we take Psalm 91 and we
• 24:58
  go we are praying that prayer but also
• 25:00
  using anointing oil as a point of
• 25:03
  contact declaring and dedicating them to
• 25:07
  the Lord. They belong to the Lord. So
• 25:09
  even as they step out devil you might
• 25:11
  run your mess all around them but it
• 25:13
  cannot touch them.
• 25:15
  >> I like that you said point of contact.
• 25:17
  That stuck out to me. So for people that
• 25:20
  do want to kind of just say, "Well,
• 25:22
  there's no difference between me just
• 25:24
  praying that over my kid versus me
• 25:26
  taking some oil and then praying that
• 25:28
  over my kid." What's your response or
• 25:30
  vantage point with that?
• 25:32
  >> Do whatever you want. [laughter]
• 25:34
  Do do whatever you want. I mean, I'm not
• 25:36
  going to sit here and argue with you to
• 25:38
  for you to obey God's word, for you to
• 25:40
  obey the leading of the Holy Spirit. I'm
• 25:42
  not going to I'm not going to sit here
• 25:43
  and battle with you on that. If you
• 25:45
  don't want to do it, then don't do it.
• 25:47
  Good luck with that.
• 25:48
  Good luck. I'll talk to you in a few
• 25:50
  months when it runs out and you need
• 25:53
  help.
• 25:54
  >> I you know I've shared a
• 25:57
  >> if we don't enforce
• 26:00
  what God has given us to enforce which
• 26:02
  is his which is his word and his will
• 26:05
  and his ways. If we don't enforce them
• 26:07
  because it's what we're here to do.
• 26:09
  We're here as enforcers of this.
• 26:12
  >> Yes.
• 26:13
  then you're just sitting back and okay,
• 26:16
  well, I'm good going to I mean, the mo
• 26:17
  the majority of the people that would
• 26:18
  say that that I'm good with just praying
• 26:20
  are probably good with just saying I'm
• 26:22
  good going to church on Easter and
• 26:23
  Christmas, too, right?
• 26:24
  >> Or I go to church every week and I just
• 26:26
  mark this box off and I'm going to, you
• 26:28
  know, curse like a trucker the rest of
• 26:30
  the week and my house is going to do
• 26:31
  whatever they want and
• 26:33
  >> you're if you don't enforce and fully
• 26:36
  enforce and obey God's word, then you're
• 26:40
  not a threat to the enemy. M
• 26:42
  >> you he's he is going to constantly have
• 26:45
  his way. He's going to know that he has
• 26:46
  his way. But when you actually take it
• 26:50
  seriously, start enforcing obeying all
• 26:53
  of God's word.
• 26:54
  >> Then it's and not just New Testament.
• 26:56
  Everybody gets hung up on New Testament.
• 26:59
  >> There's no old God is the same
• 27:01
  yesterday, today, and forever. There's
• 27:03
  nothing old about it. It was just a name
• 27:05
  given to it. It's still very much in
• 27:08
  effect today just as they want to say
• 27:11
  the New Testament is. It's not all
• 27:13
  grace, grace, grace. It's also
• 27:15
  obedience, obedience, obedience. And so,
• 27:17
  we got to obey his word in order to see
• 27:20
  stuff actually move in our lives and be
• 27:23
  protected in our lives.
• 27:25
  >> Yeah. I would love to hear kind of those
• 27:29
  those testimonies that that you have
• 27:31
  personally of people that
• 27:33
  >> maybe were in that place where they're
• 27:35
  like, I don't need that. That doesn't
• 27:37
  work for me. 6 months later, hey Joan, I
• 27:39
  think I was wrong.
• 27:40
  >> Um just like how things shift. Have you
• 27:42
  seen that happen?
• 27:43
  >> Oh, 100% I've seen it happen. Um we had
• 27:46
  one actually. Uh so a woman that had uh
• 27:50
  come to me, she had turmoil in her
• 27:53
  marriage and she had had a pregnancy and
• 27:55
  the pregnancy was horrific. Like the
• 27:58
  pregnancy and then the birth it was like
• 28:00
  a traumatic traumatic thing for her and
• 28:03
  she was realizing that and the holy
• 28:05
  which the Holy Spirit was nudging her of
• 28:07
  like hey just you praying and going to
• 28:11
  church is not what it's all about. It's
• 28:13
  about so much more than that. And so she
• 28:16
  came, she reached out and I go, "Hey,
• 28:18
  you need to anoint your home. Like, this
• 28:20
  is not okay. You need to anoint
• 28:22
  yourself." She didn't, she was like,
• 28:23
  "I'm not having any more babies." Her
• 28:25
  husband wanted more children. I'm not
• 28:28
  having any more babies because this is
• 28:29
  how it's going to be. And I said, "No,
• 28:31
  you need to anoint yourself. And you
• 28:32
  need to declare the God of the word of
• 28:34
  God over yourself and over your womb.
• 28:38
  >> Yeah.
• 28:38
  >> You have authority here, not the devil
• 28:41
  telling you how this is going to be."
• 28:42
  And so she started anointing her home
• 28:45
  and peace came throughout her home. So
• 28:47
  she was like happy with that. And then
• 28:49
  she started anointing herself and
• 28:50
  anointing her womb and she got pregnant.
• 28:52
  >> Wow.
• 28:52
  >> And then she goes throughout the
• 28:55
  pregnancy she would text me and she'd be
• 28:57
  like, "I have no morning sickness. I'm
• 28:59
  perfectly fine. I pray everything is
• 29:01
  okay." And I'm like, "No, no, no. Faith,
• 29:03
  faith, faith." And I was like, "You are
• 29:05
  doing exactly what God has has commanded
• 29:07
  you to do.
• 29:09
  >> You're going to have faith." She had a
• 29:10
  pregnancy the whole pregnancy never got
• 29:13
  sick. Birthed the baby and the baby was
• 29:15
  completely healthy. She was completely
• 29:17
  fine. Was not in an uproar and turmoil
• 29:21
  and she was Hey, it works. And she's
• 29:24
  actually gone on since then to have she
• 29:26
  has a total of six children now.
• 29:28
  >> Wow.
• 29:29
  >> Yeah. One after another after another
• 29:31
  after another because there was no fear
• 29:33
  there and she has applied God's word to
• 29:35
  it. And then we've seen ones where they
• 29:38
  were fine. You know, their church
• 29:40
  actually taught them that they didn't
• 29:41
  need anointing oil and that they could
• 29:43
  just pray and but their home was in a
• 29:46
  complete uproar. Kids were acting crazy.
• 29:48
  Marriage, finances were drying up.
• 29:50
  Husband lost his job. And I told I said,
• 29:53
  "Hey, anoint everything. Anoint
• 29:57
  absolutely everything." And she went
• 29:58
  through and I told her, I said, "When
• 30:00
  you draw that bloodline, what you're
• 30:01
  doing is you're putting up a fence
• 30:03
  around your property. It's actually an
• 30:05
  offense of angels around your property
• 30:08
  that one after another after another.
• 30:10
  And you got the devil over there like,
• 30:11
  "Hey, what's going on?"
• 30:13
  >> I was like, "Just look right up there
• 30:14
  and say,
• 30:16
  >> "There ain't nothing for you over here."
• 30:17
  Yeah.
• 30:18
  >> Go back on your side. There ain't
• 30:19
  nothing for you. And even if you feel
• 30:20
  the pressure,
• 30:22
  >> tell them I hope it burns when you cross
• 30:24
  that bloodline.
• 30:25
  >> Yeah.
• 30:26
  >> Because you're not allowed over here.
• 30:27
  And she did that. And then she saw that
• 30:30
  because she would feel the pressure.
• 30:31
  Wait, I'm feeling pressure, but he's not
• 30:33
  allowed over here.
• 30:34
  >> Wow, that's so good. You know, when I
• 30:37
  was in the occult, I would not only do
• 30:41
  the sage thing, but we would do these
• 30:43
  like rituals before moon ceremony or
• 30:45
  before facilitating Reiki or something
• 30:47
  where we would visualize like, oh,
• 30:50
  there's white light going up. We're
• 30:51
  setting up a pillar in this corner, that
• 30:52
  corner, that corner, that corner, and
• 30:54
  then tying it all together through like
• 30:57
  an angelic force field, which which is
• 30:59
  like laughable because I didn't have the
• 31:01
  Holy Spirit. So, but but I I'm thinking
• 31:04
  about in hindsight, even doing that, I
• 31:07
  don't doubt that I was doing something.
• 31:09
  I know I was setting something up. Now,
• 31:12
  I wasn't protected. I was
• 31:14
  >> deceived into believing I was being
• 31:15
  protected,
• 31:16
  >> but that was faith.
• 31:19
  >> Mhm.
• 31:19
  >> That was faith. So, I'm just like, why
• 31:21
  are we so okay with hearing things like
• 31:24
  that and thinking, "Oh, that's
• 31:25
  ridiculous." Whatever. We're okay with
• 31:27
  hearing things like that in the occult
• 31:28
  where faith is applied. But then it
• 31:32
  comes into Christianity and we apply the
• 31:36
  authentic biblical faith that's really
• 31:39
  only possible legally and righteously
• 31:42
  >> and effectively by the Holy Spirit. And
• 31:45
  it's just it's weird or it's even
• 31:48
  offensive because I I feel like people
• 31:51
  are going to hear what we're discussing
• 31:54
  and
• 31:55
  you know offense always filters through
• 31:57
  the through the wound. So they'll hear,
• 32:00
  "Oh, she's saying I don't have enough
• 32:01
  faith."
• 32:02
  >> Mhm.
• 32:02
  >> So what can can we talk a little bit
• 32:05
  about faith? Like what if it's even able
• 32:09
  to be defined? What is faith? Like when
• 32:12
  you're saying you need to have the faith
• 32:14
  that when you when you set that
• 32:16
  bloodline like the devil cannot cross it
• 32:18
  like what is this faith? How do we how
• 32:21
  do we allow ourselves to have faith in
• 32:25
  the faith? Do you know what I'm saying?
• 32:26
  Well, it's trust.
• 32:28
  >> You got to trust God more than you trust
• 32:31
  anything or anyone else.
• 32:34
  That that's literally without trust
• 32:38
  you're not going to have faith because
• 32:39
  how can you say you have faith in God
• 32:40
  but you don't trust him with your
• 32:42
  children? How can you say you have faith
• 32:43
  in God but you don't trust him with to
• 32:45
  heal your marriage? How do you say you
• 32:46
  have faith in God when you don't trust
• 32:48
  him to to deliver you from something?
• 32:51
  >> And ironically like a a way to increase
• 32:54
  your faith could actually be to just
• 32:56
  anoint yourself.
• 32:58
  >> Well, faith comes by hearing and hearing
• 32:59
  by the word of God. So even if you put
• 33:01
  on you're playing scripture from the
• 33:04
  Bible app or you're reading scripture,
• 33:06
  you're hearing yourself say it. So when
• 33:08
  you're anointing yourself, you're
• 33:09
  declaring scripture out loud and faith
• 33:12
  comes by here. So it's building you up
• 33:14
  more and more. And you have to get this
• 33:17
  this bold. Everybody's they'll ask
• 33:19
  they'll say, "How are you so confident?"
• 33:21
  >> Yeah.
• 33:22
  >> I'm confident because he's confident in
• 33:25
  me and I trust him.
• 33:27
  >> I don't trust myself. I trust him. And
• 33:31
  so that's how my confidence comes of,
• 33:35
  hey, you've got my back. I'm confident
• 33:37
  that you're going to cover me. Because
• 33:39
  then it comes down to an identity issue
• 33:41
  >> with it of is he really your father?
• 33:45
  >> Do you trust your father? Are you
• 33:48
  walking in that son or daughter
• 33:52
  identity? Because there are times when
• 33:55
  the devil in warfare that he's playing
• 33:57
  his mess. And I go, "Do you know who my
• 34:00
  daddy is? [laughter] Do you know?
• 34:03
  I want to remind you who he is. And then
• 34:06
  I want to remind you who I am." I've had
• 34:08
  to do that so many times, especially
• 34:10
  recently. The warfare in this pregnancy,
• 34:12
  I think I've told every single guest
• 34:13
  that's been on cuz these won't be out
• 34:15
  until after. So, I don't care. You know,
• 34:16
  I don't care who knows at that point.
• 34:18
  Um, but the warfare in this pregnancy
• 34:20
  has been so intense. And I know it's
• 34:23
  because of who I'm carrying, but I also
• 34:24
  know it's because of what I'm carrying.
• 34:27
  And I have to get into that place where
• 34:29
  I just despite how I feel, despite what
• 34:32
  it looks like, despite what's going on,
• 34:35
  I have to just believe him
• 34:37
  >> and know that that faith is what's going
• 34:40
  to bring me up and out of whatever the
• 34:43
  devil's trying to pull me into. And
• 34:45
  that's where he is defeated. You know,
• 34:47
  submit to God, resist the devil, and he
• 34:50
  will flee from you is a promise.
• 34:52
  >> And the submission is the surrender.
• 34:55
  Would you agree with that? Absolutely.
• 34:56
  But people leave out that part. They
• 34:58
  they
• 35:00
  resist and you and you'll be good. They
• 35:02
  leave out the submit to God.
• 35:04
  >> That was one of the questions I had for
• 35:05
  you. What is the oil doing that faith
• 35:07
  alone isn't? But you I think you said it
• 35:10
  already is that it's just kind of like a
• 35:12
  contact point, right?
• 35:14
  >> Yep. It's the point of contact and it's
• 35:17
  you're and it helps it also will help
• 35:19
  those that need to grow in their faith
• 35:22
  with
• 35:22
  >> I can see that
• 35:23
  >> because you're viewing it as the blood
• 35:24
  of Jesus because it's a representation
• 35:26
  of the blood and the power of the holy
• 35:28
  the blood of Jesus and the power of the
• 35:30
  holy spirit and so when you are applying
• 35:32
  this you are applying the blood and when
• 35:35
  you really know how powerful the blood
• 35:37
  is and what it accomplished and what it
• 35:38
  does in our lives and then when you
• 35:40
  really know the power of the Holy Spirit
• 35:43
  you're like you just sit back. Go ahead.
• 35:46
  >> Try me.
• 35:47
  >> Yeah. Yeah. I've I've seen I can, you
• 35:50
  know, the visualization thing
• 35:52
  >> that was something else I was kind of
• 35:54
  afraid of.
• 35:55
  >> Even though God I mean Genesis to
• 35:58
  Revela, the whole book of Revelation is
• 36:00
  quite literally a vision. And God's the
• 36:02
  one that gave us our imagination. God's
• 36:04
  the one that
• 36:05
  >> gave us prophetic insight and prophetic
• 36:07
  ability.
• 36:08
  >> And so I I do that all the time whenever
• 36:11
  I do anoint. I I literally see it. I can
• 36:13
  picture it just like the blood. Like
• 36:16
  it's like a force field just of the
• 36:18
  blood. And so I can only imagine what
• 36:20
  that looks like on the outside to the
• 36:22
  devil or
• 36:24
  >> two witches. I don't know if you've ever
• 36:25
  heard these testimonies from
• 36:28
  >> often ex- witches that don't mind
• 36:30
  disclosing the work that they've done
• 36:32
  where they're like, "Yeah, you know, we
• 36:33
  get sent on assignment to this
• 36:35
  Christian, that Christian, and we can't
• 36:38
  >> like penetrate their their home because
• 36:41
  there's they're praying." Y
• 36:43
  >> and there's like a force field up there
• 36:45
  >> and it's like that's what I want my home
• 36:46
  to be. I don't want there to be I don't
• 36:48
  want there to be any open door. Well, on
• 36:50
  that note, what would be
• 36:52
  >> So, if you are
• 36:55
  anointing your home, anointing your
• 36:56
  home, praying, reading the word, all
• 36:58
  these things, and there's still stuff
• 37:00
  going on like there's probably an open
• 37:02
  door somewhere, right?
• 37:03
  >> Absolutely.
• 37:04
  >> Okay. So, what are some things that
• 37:05
  people need to start taking a look at if
• 37:07
  that's the case?
• 37:07
  >> I was um a a mentee of mine. She had
• 37:11
  anointed her home and was searching the
• 37:14
  whole family for any open doors. And
• 37:17
  like it's it's literally like going from
• 37:19
  kid to kid and then husband and grandpa
• 37:21
  like y'all have open doors. Let me see
• 37:23
  your phone. What are you watching? What
• 37:24
  are you doing?
• 37:26
  >> And um nobody had. Everybody was being
• 37:29
  as far as they could see was being
• 37:30
  obedient to the Lord. And we're just
• 37:33
  sitting there on on our call and I'm
• 37:36
  praying and the Holy Spirit all of a
• 37:37
  sudden shows me a box in the top of the
• 37:39
  spare bedroom closet. And I go, "Hey."
• 37:43
  I'm like, "Do you have a box in the top
• 37:44
  of your spare bedroom closet?" And she
• 37:46
  said, "I do." And I said, "I need you to
• 37:48
  go and get that box. The Holy Spirit has
• 37:50
  highlighted that box." And so she went
• 37:53
  and got the box. And she comes and sits
• 37:54
  back down. And we're on a Zoom Zoom
• 37:56
  call. She sits back down and she opens
• 37:58
  it up and she goes, "Oh my word.
• 38:02
  And it was the Harry Potter game
• 38:06
  literally in in this box, but she had
• 38:10
  packed it away and it was in there. And
• 38:13
  she goes, "Is this my open door?" I
• 38:15
  said, "Ask the Holy Spirit. Is" and I
• 38:18
  said, "Simple like is this my open door?
• 38:20
  Holy Spirit, just ask him." And he said,
• 38:21
  "Yes, that's your open door." She got
• 38:23
  rid of it and all the problems.
• 38:25
  >> That's amazing. We had something
• 38:27
  similar. So Mike when I don't know this
• 38:30
  was like three summers ago. Mike he was
• 38:35
  just like really into thrifting when I
• 38:37
  first got saved and he wasn't yet. He
• 38:40
  just adopted that hobby. I don't know
• 38:42
  why. It was something that he just
• 38:43
  started doing. So he started getting all
• 38:45
  this old stuff, all this collector me
• 38:46
  memorabilia and he had like the Harry
• 38:49
  Potter set and it bothered me cuz cuz I
• 38:52
  it wasn't like afraid of it. I just
• 38:54
  could feel I'm like there's something
• 38:56
  here that's allowing weird stuff. There
• 38:58
  was like poltergeist activity in this
• 39:00
  house. Like upstairs we hear like the
• 39:01
  door slam footsteps and all that.
• 39:04
  >> And I'm like Mike, it's the book. I know
• 39:06
  it's the book. And then I'm talking
• 39:07
  about with a friend as I'm saying it's
• 39:09
  the Harry Potter. The lights flicker.
• 39:10
  Like
• 39:11
  >> I just knew. And so he um and I would
• 39:15
  actually anoint it in faith. I'm like,
• 39:17
  "My husband's going to get convicted to
• 39:18
  get rid of this. My husband's going to
• 39:19
  get convicted to get rid of this." And
• 39:20
  one day he's like, "Oh, you're better
• 39:21
  than me. I would have thrown it out."
• 39:22
  like [laughter] well I was trying I was
• 39:25
  trying not to open a door through like
• 39:28
  circumventing my husband's authority.
• 39:30
  That's what I was afraid of like just
• 39:31
  throwing away his things.
• 39:32
  >> Um but I eventually he comes to me. He's
• 39:36
  like, "Yeah, we we can we can like burn
• 39:37
  that book." So we burnt it
• 39:39
  >> in the backyard and literally there's
• 39:40
  like bats flying around.
• 39:42
  >> Bats flying around.
• 39:42
  >> There's no bats coming up.
• 39:44
  >> Like there's no bats in this in this
• 39:46
  part of town and there's just bats and
• 39:48
  people just like underestimate the Harry
• 39:50
  Potter thing.
• 39:51
  >> Yep. or any really kind of just
• 39:53
  paraphernalia like that in general. They
• 39:55
  think it's not that big of a deal. It's
• 39:57
  whatever. It's this. It's that.
• 39:59
  >> But isn't it just like the devil to
• 40:01
  convince you it's not? It's not that big
• 40:03
  of a deal cuz that's his foothold.
• 40:05
  >> Yep. Absolutely footoothold.
• 40:07
  >> He tries to say, "Oh, they're good
• 40:08
  witches."
• 40:09
  >> No, there's no good witches.
• 40:12
  >> A witch is a witch. It doesn't say in
• 40:14
  scripture like, "Oh, there's good ones
• 40:15
  and bad ones."
• 40:16
  >> Yeah.
• 40:17
  >> I've even heard people say, "Oh, you can
• 40:18
  find the gospel in um in Harry Potter.
• 40:21
  Oh my [laughter] word.
• 40:22
  >> You can find the gospel in anything
• 40:24
  because they have the the devil.
• 40:26
  >> Well, the devil takes it, twists it,
• 40:28
  perverts it, and then you know, which is
• 40:30
  what he's done. And which is why so many
• 40:32
  people walk in fear of anointing oil and
• 40:36
  fully walking out what God says because
• 40:38
  the devil, they've lived in that.
• 40:41
  >> And I'm not talking like when I say
• 40:43
  perverse and perverted, it's not that
• 40:46
  it's lust and and sex. It's that he's
• 40:49
  twisted. Yeah. it. And so you live in
• 40:53
  that twisted compromise for so long that
• 40:56
  it's literally it's weird to have the
• 41:00
  real
• 41:01
  >> because you're so used to the perverse.
• 41:04
  >> It's so good. I mean, that's like
• 41:06
  literally textbook
• 41:08
  >> the story of people that come where I
• 41:10
  come from. You're just so used to the
• 41:11
  demonic. And I know I told you this like
• 41:13
  when we first met, I shut that down for
• 41:16
  over a year. And it was after I got
• 41:18
  baptized where I'm like, "Oh, okay.
• 41:20
  Maybe if there's actually the
• 41:21
  counterfeit I keep talking about, maybe
• 41:23
  that means the authentic exists and the
• 41:24
  Holy Spirit didn't retire
• 41:27
  >> and everything that I was doing was
• 41:29
  through the wrong source
• 41:31
  >> and that there's a correct, righteous
• 41:34
  way to access true supernatural
• 41:36
  authority and power." And oh, well,
• 41:38
  certainly there is. And it's through the
• 41:40
  Holy Spirit, which was available to me
• 41:43
  because I was born again.
• 41:44
  >> And it really does. I I think it's one
• 41:47
  of the
• 41:48
  greatest
• 41:50
  um
• 41:52
  the greatest areas that the devil has
• 41:56
  manage to infiltrate the church is fear.
• 42:00
  Because fear it's fear is not a lack of
• 42:03
  faith actually. It's it's a it's
• 42:06
  perverse faith
• 42:07
  >> because you're just you're scared and
• 42:10
  and you're you're paranoid. And so you
• 42:13
  don't have faith that when God says if
• 42:18
  you ask for bread I'm not going to give
• 42:19
  you a stone that that would actually be
• 42:21
  true. Right? People are like afraid of
• 42:22
  praying in tongues.
• 42:24
  >> This is I'm afraid this is going to be
• 42:25
  demonic. Why would your father give you
• 42:27
  demonic tongues if you're asking him to
• 42:30
  pray
• 42:31
  >> a prayer language?
• 42:33
  >> And it's the same thing with anointing
• 42:35
  oil. Like what's the what what would you
• 42:38
  say is the difference between
• 42:40
  approaching this kind of thing?
• 42:43
  Like I need to pray from a place of
• 42:45
  faith. I need to apply
• 42:48
  this oil and the blood of Jesus Christ
• 42:50
  around my home from faith and it can't
• 42:52
  be from fear. How how are we able to
• 42:55
  discern what's going on even in our own
• 42:57
  heart? So, it's leads back to being led
• 43:01
  by the Holy Spirit because he's going to
• 43:03
  let you know that you're when you have a
• 43:06
  close relationship with him and you've
• 43:08
  cultivated that relationship, he will
• 43:10
  tell you, "Hey, you're praying a
• 43:12
  fear-based prayer right now. That's not
• 43:15
  that's not how we pray." or or um you'll
• 43:20
  feel you will feel that you are doing
• 43:22
  something out of worry and fear instead
• 43:26
  of faith because if we drew that line
• 43:31
  say we just did it over our front door
• 43:32
  and we go I'm afraid that my home is
• 43:35
  going to be broken into co when co hit
• 43:38
  because that's when the Lord that's when
• 43:40
  the Lord told me to start teaching on
• 43:42
  anointing oil before CO even hit what
• 43:44
  was it like a month before CO hit. I
• 43:47
  started teach Yeah. the end. Okay. So, a
• 43:50
  couple months before COVID hit, the end
• 43:52
  of 2019, the Lord told me to start
• 43:55
  teaching on anointing oil and telling
• 43:57
  people how to draw the bloodline to keep
• 44:00
  the enemy out of their home and to um
• 44:04
  because he he said he's like, I can only
• 44:07
  protect you from what you don't allow.
• 44:09
  And so if I'm going to allow that to
• 44:12
  come into my home and not have faith or
• 44:15
  application to kick it out, then it'll
• 44:18
  run rampant here. But we can declare and
• 44:21
  say confidently and and
• 44:25
  that we were drawing that bloodline. It
• 44:27
  was not allowed to cross and then we
• 44:30
  didn't get CO. None of our family got
• 44:31
  CO.
• 44:32
  >> That was my next question. Did you get
• 44:33
  CO?
• 44:34
  >> No, we did not get CO. We were protected
• 44:36
  and protected in teaching. I I was
• 44:39
  protected so much during COVID that we I
• 44:42
  was invited to speak at a church that
• 44:45
  more than half their congregation was
• 44:47
  out with CO. Wow.
• 44:48
  >> And it was bad. I mean, it ran like
• 44:52
  the it just demons just dispersed
• 44:54
  through their congregation. It was it
• 44:56
  was so horrific what the devil was
• 44:58
  trying to do. They called me in and they
• 45:02
  actually had a couple of them had got
• 45:04
  just gotten released from the hospital.
• 45:05
  A couple of them were homesick still
• 45:07
  with CO. I'd laid hands on every single
• 45:09
  one of them, anointed them with oil,
• 45:10
  declared healing. They were all healed
• 45:13
  and I never got CO.
• 45:15
  >> Yeah. And and that's faith and action.
• 45:18
  >> Okay. So, this is interesting. Now, what
• 45:21
  would you say if like let's say it
• 45:23
  doesn't work? I'll use an example just
• 45:24
  for my own life.
• 45:26
  >> You know the ice storm we had, right? So
• 45:28
  I'm going around praying with the oil.
• 45:32
  I'm like we will not lose power. You
• 45:33
  know blood of Jesus protect. We lost
• 45:35
  power.
• 45:36
  >> So would you say and I'm and I'm totally
• 45:39
  okay like I'm never scared of someone
• 45:41
  saying like maybe it was because you
• 45:43
  were praying in fear not faith.
• 45:45
  >> What would you say to people who have
• 45:47
  had an experience similar to that where
• 45:49
  they're like oh I prayed against COVID
• 45:51
  in my home. I anointed and I got CO. Why
• 45:53
  didn't it work for me? Like what's the
• 45:55
  answer to that? If we never walk through
• 45:57
  anything, how is our faith gonna grow?
• 45:59
  >> Well,
• 46:00
  >> we had to we lost power as well. We
• 46:03
  actually texted each other. We lost
• 46:05
  power as well and we anoint the home and
• 46:07
  we're declaring everything. But how are
• 46:09
  we going to and because even if I would
• 46:12
  have gotten co and the Lord healed me
• 46:14
  from it,
• 46:15
  >> that would have built my faith and trust
• 46:17
  in him that you're going to heal me even
• 46:19
  when something horrific happens in my
• 46:20
  life. So even with we and we are in the
• 46:24
  the earth is groaning.
• 46:26
  >> We are in pains right now and we're
• 46:29
  going to feel the pressure as believers
• 46:32
  because before the trumpets blow, we are
• 46:35
  going to look as much like the
• 46:37
  tribulation
• 46:38
  >> as we possibly can here on this earth.
• 46:40
  So it's going to get worse before it
• 46:42
  gets better. And we have to feel it,
• 46:44
  still operate in faith, build our faith
• 46:47
  more and more and more to be able to
• 46:50
  pull as many souls with us as we
• 46:52
  possibly can.
• 46:53
  >> Yeah. And it doesn't mean that we still
• 46:55
  don't do the thing.
• 46:57
  >> Exactly.
• 46:57
  >> Right. Like I lose power. It doesn't
• 46:59
  mean
• 47:00
  >> now, you know, like whatever tornado
• 47:02
  season now, it doesn't mean I don't
• 47:04
  >> keep praying I'm not going to lose
• 47:06
  power. The storm's not going to come
• 47:07
  near my home. And that's like what the
• 47:09
  devil wants to talk you into is like,
• 47:11
  "Oh, see, it didn't work. It's not it's
• 47:13
  not a thing.
• 47:15
  >> It's not really a faith issue. It's just
• 47:16
  like whatever." And then it gets you it
• 47:19
  it does diminish your faith. It it like
• 47:21
  >> backslides you into weakness. And then
• 47:25
  you're even more vulnerable.
• 47:27
  >> And now it's not a matter of like God
• 47:29
  allowing things to strengthen you. It's
• 47:31
  because like you're putting your guard
• 47:32
  willingly down. Like you're laying down
• 47:34
  your armor because you got discouraged.
• 47:38
  But we speak this because it's a pattern
• 47:40
  that we've recognized that he does over
• 47:43
  and over and over again to try to get
• 47:45
  people to lay it down so that way he can
• 47:48
  have his way and do whatever he wants.
• 47:50
  And so you're his whole goal is to beat
• 47:53
  us down so that way we don't stand up in
• 47:57
  faith and in authority because what he's
• 47:59
  he's not just trying to to diminish your
• 48:02
  faith. He's also trying to get you to
• 48:04
  set your authority down. And so if you
• 48:07
  set your authority down and he goes,
• 48:09
  "Trornado season's coming and you've
• 48:11
  anointed the home and it's not going to
• 48:13
  work." No, I'm going to stand here and
• 48:15
  I'm going to speak to that storm the
• 48:17
  same way I did last tornado season. It's
• 48:19
  not going to stop me.
• 48:20
  >> Yeah. What role does our
• 48:24
  have in this in the conversation of
• 48:26
  faith, in the conversation of anointing
• 48:28
  and declaring and in the conversation of
• 48:31
  laying your authority down? Like how
• 48:33
  important is it the way that we are
• 48:35
  choosing to utilize what the Bible says
• 48:39
  can easily be used as an instrument of
• 48:41
  hell.
• 48:42
  >> Well, life and death is in the power of
• 48:43
  the tongue. So if you are going to come
• 48:46
  into agreement with death, which is
• 48:49
  anything that kills, steals, and
• 48:50
  destroys, which that is what a lot of
• 48:52
  these storms come to do and is what the
• 48:56
  devil comes to do. And he sends these
• 48:58
  things to do that. You're you come into
• 49:01
  agreement with that and you speak that
• 49:02
  that is what you're going you are going
• 49:04
  to reap
• 49:05
  >> reap it
• 49:05
  >> what you what you have spoken if you
• 49:08
  speak life even though you're in the
• 49:11
  midst I mean come on they praised until
• 49:14
  the prison walls fell down they were not
• 49:17
  in a situation and in a door but behind
• 49:20
  a door that everything looked glamorous
• 49:23
  and everything was going good I mean
• 49:25
  they were in the bottom of that prison
• 49:27
  so you think about what was coming down
• 49:29
  on top of them as because there's not
• 49:32
  bathrooms like that. So everything
• 49:33
  coming down on top of them, they were in
• 49:35
  the worst conditions that you could
• 49:37
  possibly imagine. But yet they started
• 49:39
  praising.
• 49:40
  >> Yeah.
• 49:40
  >> They they stuck their faith out and
• 49:42
  started praising. And that was faith.
• 49:45
  That was even though I'm in this
• 49:46
  horrific situation right now, I know my
• 49:50
  God is a deliverer and he will still
• 49:52
  deliver me. Even though it doesn't look
• 49:54
  the same as when he delivered me last
• 49:56
  season, even though I might still feel
• 49:58
  some pressure, I am still going to be
• 50:00
  delivered no matter no matter what.
• 50:02
  >> Yeah. And just refusing to back down
• 50:06
  from his promise.
• 50:07
  >> Exactly.
• 50:07
  >> How often are you anointing?
• 50:10
  >> So my home So my I've taught my
• 50:13
  daughters to anoint themselves now. So,
• 50:15
  I don't anoint we don't anoint our
• 50:17
  daughters um unless we're doing
• 50:20
  something and the Lord says anoint like
• 50:22
  if he tells Michael which my husband's
• 50:24
  Michael too.
• 50:26
  >> We both have Michaels. if he tells
• 50:28
  Michael to anoint or the girls ask us to
• 50:31
  anoint them, but we've taught them how
• 50:33
  to anoint themselves and we actually
• 50:35
  taught them um in starting to teach them
• 50:38
  when
• 50:39
  >> she's I think Lucy was like three or
• 50:42
  Gabby was three when we started that she
• 50:45
  would take her I put it in a roller
• 50:48
  bottle and she would take it and anoint
• 50:50
  her teddy bears. And so now she even
• 50:52
  does if anybody gifts her a gift.
• 50:54
  >> Wow. as she brings it into the home, she
• 50:56
  immediately anoints it.
• 50:57
  >> Wow.
• 50:58
  >> And dedicates it to the Lord. And
• 50:59
  whatever was tried to be attached to it,
• 51:01
  she commands off of it. And so they both
• 51:04
  both girls do that now. But
• 51:06
  >> um
• 51:06
  >> how old are they?
• 51:07
  >> Uh Lucy just turned my youngest just
• 51:10
  turned 10 and Gabby will be 12 in a
• 51:12
  couple months. But they um so they
• 51:16
  anoint themselves. They pray and anoint
• 51:18
  themselves every night. And then um our
• 51:21
  home, I anoint our home at least once a
• 51:23
  week. Now, if something is going crazy,
• 51:26
  then I'll be I might anoint more. I
• 51:28
  might tell Michael [clears throat] to
• 51:30
  anoint. Um because he's if he's home, I
• 51:33
  might tell him, "Hey, I need you to
• 51:35
  anoint or depending on the situation
• 51:37
  that's going on. A lot of women don't
• 51:39
  have a lot of wives don't have their
• 51:41
  husbands are not spiritually where they
• 51:43
  are or vice versa. But if your husband's
• 51:46
  not where you are yet, you can anoint
• 51:48
  your home and take authority over that
• 51:51
  home. You're It doesn't mean you're not
• 51:52
  a submissive wife. You're just taking
• 51:55
  spiritual authority while your husband
• 51:57
  is being grown up into his position.
• 51:59
  >> Yeah. And you can even like we talked
• 52:02
  about at the beginning, anoint on your
• 52:04
  husband's behalf, like anoint longings.
• 52:06
  And what would
• 52:07
  >> Hey, you can even throw some oil on your
• 52:09
  hands, go and give him a hug. I love
• 52:11
  you, baby. You're anointing him and he
• 52:13
  don't even know it.
• 52:14
  >> I unfortunately I feel like that's a lot
• 52:16
  of women's story is that like, oh, my
• 52:18
  husband isn't quite where I'm at. He's
• 52:20
  not caught up. he doesn't believe in
• 52:21
  this sort of thing.
• 52:23
  >> So what is your encouragement for women
• 52:24
  who are in that position? like what are
• 52:26
  some just practical ways they can be
• 52:28
  praying where they can be anointing
• 52:31
  >> so they can be well we pray that the
• 52:34
  Holy Spirit has his way but as wives
• 52:36
  we're so a non-believing husband is
• 52:38
  saved by the faith
• 52:40
  >> faith
• 52:40
  >> of his wife and so you are you're still
• 52:45
  praying don't hide that you're going to
• 52:47
  church don't honey would you like to
• 52:49
  come okay I'm still going
• 52:52
  >> then you are don't hide that you're
• 52:54
  praying
• 52:56
  pray. And when he says he's having a bad
• 52:58
  day, baby, I'm praying for you. Even if
• 53:00
  he's not in agreement with it. And then
• 53:02
  you're anointing and you're doing all of
• 53:04
  the things to create a space for the
• 53:06
  Holy Spirit to work on him as he sleeps.
• 53:09
  Holy Spirit, as he lays his head on this
• 53:11
  pillow, have your way with your son from
• 53:15
  the top of his head to the soles of his
• 53:16
  feet. Remove everything that doesn't
• 53:18
  belong and establish him and grow him up
• 53:21
  in who you've created him to be.
• 53:22
  >> Yeah. And you can probably do the same
• 53:24
  thing with your kids if they're being
• 53:26
  rebellious. The same
• 53:27
  >> pattern. Absolutely. And if you have
• 53:29
  prodals that have run off and that
• 53:31
  aren't home, you can anoint their
• 53:33
  pictures and any belongings that they
• 53:35
  still have in your home and you call
• 53:36
  them back home. And you're not calling
• 53:37
  them back home to yourself. A lot of
• 53:39
  people get that
• 53:40
  >> like twisted of like, oh, I just want
• 53:43
  them back home to me. No, we want
• 53:46
  prodals to come back home to the father
• 53:48
  and then the father will bring them back
• 53:50
  home to us.
• 53:51
  >> Do you guys have animals? Do you anoint
• 53:52
  your animals?
• 53:53
  >> I do not have animals, but a few of my
• 53:56
  spiritual daughters have animals and
• 53:57
  they anoint their pets every single day.
• 54:00
  >> Yeah. [laughter] I' I've heard
• 54:01
  deliverance stories. Matter of fact, I
• 54:04
  had a friend like a couple summers ago.
• 54:07
  She was
• 54:09
  um she was receiving deliverance just in
• 54:11
  my kitchen and we told something to go
• 54:14
  and my cat threw up. So spiritual
• 54:18
  warfare in animals is very
• 54:19
  >> is very real. I've seen those like reels
• 54:22
  and stuff of the Chihuahua. They get
• 54:24
  anointed and like they're cast in devils
• 54:26
  out of the Chihuahua.
• 54:27
  >> Chihuahua would be the ones that needed
• 54:29
  the most. Mike loves Chihuahua. So, I'm
• 54:32
  always like making fun of him for his
• 54:33
  like little dog thing.
• 54:35
  >> I would not have expected that.
• 54:37
  [laughter]
• 54:37
  >> Yeah, me either, unfortunately. Um, so
• 54:41
  how
• 54:43
  this is back to the question I was going
• 54:44
  to ask. other than anointing
• 54:47
  consistently,
• 54:48
  um what are some ways that you like
• 54:51
  cultivate an atmosphere where the Holy
• 54:53
  Spirit is really like welcome in your
• 54:55
  home?
• 54:57
  >> Um worship music, especially if you're
• 55:00
  walking through a hard time, have
• 55:01
  instrumental worship music playing all
• 55:04
  the time. One of the ones that I love is
• 55:06
  Dappy Ts, his worship music, because
• 55:09
  it's just strictly instrumental piano.
• 55:12
  It's beautiful. Um, and then, uh, but
• 55:16
  having that going all the time, praying,
• 55:20
  pray like, and people think like, oh,
• 55:22
  well, I don't have, you know, six hours
• 55:24
  to hide in my prayer closet and pray.
• 55:26
  Okay, neither do I because I'm a mom.
• 55:28
  And
• 55:29
  >> but you prayer is conversation with the
• 55:33
  Lord all day long. All day long, I am
• 55:37
  talking to him. I'm talking to him even
• 55:39
  as we're sitting here asking him, "Yeah,
• 55:42
  >> what do you how do you want me to
• 55:43
  respond to this? What do you want me to
• 55:45
  say?" I'm talking to him all day long.
• 55:46
  So, you're in your home doing that,
• 55:50
  praying, talking to him. Get rid of what
• 55:53
  does not honor God in your home. If you
• 55:56
  would not be okay with Jesus walking
• 55:57
  through that front door and opening up
• 55:59
  those those drawers, those closets, if
• 56:02
  you would be concerned with his
• 56:03
  response, then that means it doesn't
• 56:05
  belong in your home. Watch what your
• 56:08
  children are watching. Set rule. It's
• 56:11
  okay to set rules and they're going to
• 56:13
  buck up and buck back at you. Especially
• 56:15
  if you've let them do whatever they want
• 56:17
  for a while and then all of a sudden
• 56:18
  you're setting a rule. It's okay. Let
• 56:22
  them buck up at you. But you have the
• 56:24
  final say and the authority here because
• 56:26
  the Lord has given it to you. So set
• 56:28
  those rules on what's being allowed in
• 56:31
  your home. the music that's allowed to
• 56:32
  play, the television shows that's
• 56:34
  allowed to be watched, the movies, the
• 56:37
  conversations that are had. If you w I a
• 56:40
  lot of um the girls that are with me all
• 56:42
  the time, they'll always say they're
• 56:44
  like, "Janna, everybody needs to see the
• 56:47
  life of like of what you really live, of
• 56:51
  what this home really looks like."
• 56:52
  They're like, "Because only
• 56:54
  conversations in our home are always
• 56:56
  about God. Everything is always
• 57:00
  surrounded around him. Whether it's
• 57:02
  something in ministry, business, family,
• 57:05
  we're always talking about God.
• 57:07
  >> He's involved in every one of our
• 57:09
  conversations. We don't sit here and
• 57:11
  there's not gossip and strife and
• 57:13
  turmoil and jealousy. If I catch the
• 57:16
  hint of any of those things, it is out
• 57:18
  faster than that person can blink.
• 57:20
  >> Yeah. Or and complaining.
• 57:22
  >> Yeah. And complaining.
• 57:23
  >> Yeah. Complaining is like worship to the
• 57:25
  devil.
• 57:26
  >> Yeah. When we had the ice storm, we were
• 57:28
  not happy, but we were [laughter] not
• 57:29
  complaining. And then the second that it
• 57:32
  came back on, I actually broke down in
• 57:34
  thanksgiving to the Lord. Literally
• 57:36
  tears rolling down my face. Thank you so
• 57:38
  much for turning this back on. Thank
• 57:41
  you, Lord.
• 57:42
  >> Yeah. How long were you guys without it?
• 57:43
  You were
• 57:44
  >> We were seven days.
• 57:45
  >> You were seven days.
• 57:46
  >> Seven straight days without
• 57:47
  >> Was that Was that like a real test for
• 57:50
  faith or was that just Were you like
• 57:53
  really solid the whole time with that?
• 57:55
  Well, it was it was a test because it's
• 57:58
  an inconvenience. Yeah. So, if the enemy
• 58:00
  can throw us with an inconvenience,
• 58:01
  he'll do that. Um, but we were also
• 58:04
  prepared and so we've told people and
• 58:09
  been telling people like not prepper
• 58:12
  stuff like don't go crazy prepping, you
• 58:15
  know, doomsday type stuff,
• 58:17
  >> but be prepared
• 58:20
  >> financially with and with water and with
• 58:23
  food and all the things that you can
• 58:26
  take care of your family and those that
• 58:28
  the Lord has entrusted you with. you can
• 58:31
  take care of it and be okay. So, one of
• 58:33
  my one of um my mentees was actually at
• 58:36
  the house when we lost power and she's
• 58:39
  like, "How are we still eating hot
• 58:41
  meals, spaghetti and meatballs and
• 58:45
  um garlic bread and all this stuff?" And
• 58:48
  she's like, "Every time I've lost power
• 58:50
  in the past, I'm eating bologn
• 58:51
  sandwiches and I ain't eating this good
• 58:53
  stuff." And it's but it's being prepared
• 58:56
  and ready for what the enemy we play
• 59:01
  defense with the enemy.
• 59:03
  >> We've done it forever. There are so many
• 59:06
  believers that are doing it. It's like
• 59:07
  defense. He throws something at you,
• 59:08
  then you got to pop back. Let's play
• 59:10
  offense.
• 59:11
  >> I love it.
• 59:12
  >> Let's flip the script on him. Be
• 59:14
  prepared. Oh, you want to throw that at
• 59:16
  me? I'm ready for you. Oh, you're going
• 59:17
  to try to cross right here. The blood's
• 59:19
  already right there. Oh, you're going to
• 59:20
  try to diminish my faith right here.
• 59:22
  Well, faith comes by hearing. I'm going
• 59:23
  to get the word on even more.
• 59:25
  >> Yeah, that's so good. And it's so true
• 59:28
  the whole conversation cuz I actually
• 59:30
  don't know many people that feel the
• 59:31
  same way as me with like prepping.
• 59:34
  >> Um I used to before I got saved, I
• 59:38
  wanted to be one of those people, you
• 59:39
  know, cuz I was still not born again
• 59:42
  when COVID happened. So I'm like, "Oh,
• 59:44
  the apocalypse is coming. I don't know
• 59:45
  what that means." But I want I want to
• 59:48
  be one of those people that have like an
• 59:50
  underground bunker and like, you know,
• 59:52
  25 years worth hide in the hills.
• 59:54
  >> Right. I know, right? It's crazy. Um,
• 59:57
  but
• 59:59
  and it's not that I don't see the value
• 1:00:01
  in being prepared as you said, but I
• 1:00:04
  think
• 1:00:04
  >> that it does get to a point just like
• 1:00:06
  with everything else we're discussing
• 1:00:08
  where that moves from fear from faith to
• 1:00:11
  fear. Oh,
• 1:00:11
  >> absolutely. It's like we're going to be
• 1:00:13
  good because I'm stewarding this well
• 1:00:16
  and I am on the offense but like
• 1:00:18
  >> there's an obsession and there is like a
• 1:00:20
  whole like prep culture with like you
• 1:00:22
  know conservativism where it's like
• 1:00:25
  >> look at my 30 years worth of food that I
• 1:00:27
  have. It's like is that in faith or is
• 1:00:29
  that in fear? And so we actually become
• 1:00:32
  almost so obsessed with warfare whether
• 1:00:37
  you know whether it's in the world or in
• 1:00:38
  in Christianity we become so obsessed
• 1:00:41
  with warfare that we do start operating
• 1:00:44
  through the defense without even
• 1:00:46
  realizing that's what we're doing. So,
• 1:00:48
  how would you say we we um we
• 1:00:51
  distinguish that tension and and we are
• 1:00:54
  so vigilant and aware and on the front
• 1:00:56
  line of the warfare without becoming
• 1:00:58
  obsessed with it to a point where we're
• 1:01:00
  actually thinking about the devil more
• 1:01:02
  than God.
• 1:01:03
  >> Be Holy Spiritled.
• 1:01:05
  >> Grow your relationship with the Holy
• 1:01:07
  Spirit because then he will tell you
• 1:01:09
  exactly what you need for how many
• 1:01:11
  months you need it or years you may need
• 1:01:14
  it. He will tell you that it may not
• 1:01:17
  even be for you, but for those that are
• 1:01:20
  left behind here.
• 1:01:21
  >> He will tell you all of those things the
• 1:01:24
  more you cultivate that relationship
• 1:01:25
  with him and grow in that relationship
• 1:01:26
  with him. And it won't be fear because I
• 1:01:29
  see a lot of people that that are
• 1:01:31
  preaching it where it's fear, fear,
• 1:01:33
  fear. Go stock up on this, stock up on
• 1:01:35
  that. And it's like I'll go, "Holy
• 1:01:37
  Spirit, do I need that much?
• 1:01:40
  >> Is is that what you need for for over
• 1:01:42
  here?" And he goes, "Nope. didn't tell
• 1:01:44
  you to do that. I said, "Okay, not doing
• 1:01:46
  it." But you're still So ask the Holy
• 1:01:49
  Spirit. Don't just take
• 1:01:52
  Don't just take someone's word for what
• 1:01:55
  it's good
• 1:01:56
  >> your what what they're saying. Anybody
• 1:01:58
  whether it's whether it's a preacher,
• 1:02:00
  whether it's a an influencer, whoever it
• 1:02:02
  is, whether it's your your mom, don't
• 1:02:05
  just take their word for it. Ask the
• 1:02:08
  Holy Spirit, "What do me and my house
• 1:02:11
  need?" H that's good. How have you It's
• 1:02:15
  funny. There's been there's just been
• 1:02:16
  like a theme in the interviews that I've
• 1:02:18
  done for the maternity leave where
• 1:02:20
  everything comes back to just the
• 1:02:22
  simplicity of relationship.
• 1:02:24
  >> Mhm.
• 1:02:25
  >> You know, and and people don't always
• 1:02:27
  want that. Like they want they want the
• 1:02:29
  formula. They want the ritual. They want
• 1:02:31
  the the the checklist of I need to do
• 1:02:34
  XYZ when really it just comes down to
• 1:02:37
  >> hearing my father's voice
• 1:02:40
  >> and being able to recognize him in in in
• 1:02:44
  a in a sea of other voices whether that
• 1:02:46
  be the internet, a podcast and then of
• 1:02:49
  course the enemy and our own flesh and
• 1:02:50
  our own trauma and our own soul and all
• 1:02:52
  these sorts of things. And so how have
• 1:02:53
  you um how have you grown your
• 1:02:56
  relationship with the Lord over the
• 1:02:58
  years? Like for anyone listening that's
• 1:02:59
  like I want what she's describing where
• 1:03:02
  I'm just so in tune with the vine like
• 1:03:05
  just so rooted that I can
• 1:03:07
  >> I can easily access his answers upon
• 1:03:11
  having any inquiries.
• 1:03:15
  >> How I did it was I I got quiet finally
• 1:03:19
  >> like we bring so much before him. I need
• 1:03:23
  this. I need this. I need to see this.
• 1:03:25
  Not even declaring his word. We're just
• 1:03:27
  asking for things. And then there comes
• 1:03:31
  that we're declaring his word and we're
• 1:03:32
  reading his word and we're listening to
• 1:03:34
  How many voices do you have speaking
• 1:03:36
  into your life right now? How many
• 1:03:37
  people are you following that are
• 1:03:39
  speaking into your life every time you
• 1:03:40
  get on social media? You got this
• 1:03:42
  preacher saying this. You got in this
• 1:03:43
  influencer doing this. This family
• 1:03:45
  member is doing this. You have all of
• 1:03:47
  this pouring in all the time. I finally
• 1:03:50
  got quiet. And what I did was because
• 1:03:54
  mom having, you know, when the girls
• 1:03:56
  were really tiny, toddlers and a baby, a
• 1:03:58
  toddler and a baby, I would get into the
• 1:04:01
  shower and the first time that I did,
• 1:04:03
  not the first time I got a shower, but
• 1:04:04
  the first time that I got in there and
• 1:04:05
  got quiet, I go,
• 1:04:08
  >> "Holy Spirit, I'm here to listen.
• 1:04:11
  >> I'm not here. I thank you for
• 1:04:13
  everything, but I'm here to listen. I'm
• 1:04:17
  listening." And I'm just quiet and I'm
• 1:04:19
  washing my hair. And he goes, "Do you
• 1:04:21
  know how much I love you?"
• 1:04:23
  >> And it literally just
• 1:04:28
  my heart fell because I go,
• 1:04:32
  "How long have I not shut up?"
• 1:04:35
  >> Wow.
• 1:04:35
  >> To hear you tell me that you love me.
• 1:04:40
  And that was where that's where mine
• 1:04:42
  started of and I started getting quiet.
• 1:04:44
  I'll bring something before him. He'll
• 1:04:46
  know about it. And then later in the
• 1:04:48
  day, I'll give him, "Okay, I'm
• 1:04:49
  listening.
• 1:04:51
  I'm listening for what you have to say.
• 1:04:53
  Because so many people, they'll get a
• 1:04:54
  prophecy and then they'll think that,
• 1:04:55
  oh, that's just going to come out. But
• 1:04:56
  you didn't get quiet and listen and
• 1:04:58
  he'll give you the timeline for that
• 1:05:00
  prophecy on when you're going to how you
• 1:05:02
  need to prepare and steward and get
• 1:05:04
  ready for all of that. They just rush
• 1:05:06
  right into and then then the devil's
• 1:05:08
  able to twist it and say, "Oh, well,
• 1:05:10
  look, you should be mad. He let you
• 1:05:12
  down. He didn't get move as fast as you
• 1:05:14
  wanted him to move. And oh, look, he
• 1:05:16
  forgot about you. You're not loved.
• 1:05:18
  You're not valued. you're not worthy to
• 1:05:20
  get that. That's how the devil's able to
• 1:05:22
  play on all of our emotions and and all
• 1:05:25
  the old wounds that we've had that may
• 1:05:27
  have just had band-aids on them and we
• 1:05:29
  rip those band-aids off and ask them to
• 1:05:31
  heal them and get quiet. Another way and
• 1:05:34
  that I teach uh a lot of people is so as
• 1:05:38
  moms we do skin-to-skin with our babies
• 1:05:40
  when they're born.
• 1:05:42
  >> Like we hold them on our chest. Well,
• 1:05:44
  there are hundreds of health benefits
• 1:05:46
  for doing skin-to-skin with your baby.
• 1:05:48
  It uh regulates their heart rate, lowers
• 1:05:51
  their blood pressure, calms anxiety. It
• 1:05:54
  actually puts a protective layer over
• 1:05:56
  their skin that protects them from
• 1:05:58
  bacteria. It does all of these radical
• 1:06:02
  things. Well, what I started doing and I
• 1:06:05
  started teaching was skin-to-skin with
• 1:06:07
  the father. And not in a perverse way of
• 1:06:10
  people are like, "Oh, you're laying
• 1:06:11
  naked. Oh, you're imagining yourself
• 1:06:13
  laying naked up on God's lap. No, not at
• 1:06:15
  all. I am curled up in the fetal
• 1:06:17
  position on my bed and I go, "Dad, I'm
• 1:06:20
  here for skin-to-skin."
• 1:06:22
  >> Wow.
• 1:06:22
  >> And I imagine myself, little girl,
• 1:06:26
  crawling up on my dad's got a throne and
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  I'm crawling up on his lap and I'm
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  laying my head against his chest and
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  here's God wrapping his arms around me.
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  his fe the feathers just wrapped around
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  completely encamped around me protecting
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  me calming your anxiety will calm you're
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  just there you're just listening
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  imagining yourself you're not talking
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  your anxietyy's going to calm your heart
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  rate's going to regulate blood pressure
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  is going to lower and you have that
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  protective layer so there's those are
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  just a few but there's hundreds how much
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  more is there with God so it ends in two
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  ways either you're going to fall asleep
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  because you're protected and you have a
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  peace that surpasses all understanding
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  that you've never experienced before or
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  you're going to start weeping
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  uncontrollably
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  because it's a release that has taken
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  place but you're getting again getting
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  quiet building and cultivating that
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  relationship with that intimacy with
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  him. Everybody always talks about this
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  intimacy with God
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  >> but nobody talks about walking it out
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  and what that really looks like and how
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  to cultivate it.
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  >> Yeah. And so I think that's actually a
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  great way to wrap up because to the
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  point of warfare and everything else
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  we've talked about just faith and the
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  application of faith and you know
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  knowing your authority.
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  I think that really all that has to
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  start from identity which is going to
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  start from intimacy. Would you say the
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  same like the the key to be successful
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  in any warfare,
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  >> it's not the oil, it's not the prayer.
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  It's like knowing who you are because
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  you know who he is, right?
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  >> Absolutely. And he's the one that'll
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  tell you that it's warfare and what the
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  warfare is coming from and why it is the
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  way that it is. It's all intimacy with
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  him and relationship.
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  >> Yeah. Everyone always like wants to
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  know, "How do I fight the devil? How do
• 1:08:18
  I fight the devil?" It's like you just
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  got to you open up your front door. He's
• 1:08:23
  a kitten with a megaphone. Open up your
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  front door. Snatch that megaphone. Kick
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  the kitten off the steps. Say,
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  >> "A new king lives here."
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  >> It's so good.
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  >> And he's done.
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  >> It's so good. Thank you so much for your
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  time.
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  >> This was a blessing to me and I know
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  it's going to bless so many people.
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  >> Um, where can they find you after this
• 1:08:42
  podcast?
• 1:08:43
  >> Um, all the social media outlets are
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  Joanna Beck Ministries and then our
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  website is joannabeck.com.
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  >> And you do have oil that you sell,
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  correct?
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  >> Absolutely. that is prayed over by me
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  and my husband and it is in the worship
• 1:08:58
  music and all the stuff. It is
• 1:09:01
  completely consecrated and set apart. We
• 1:09:03
  have that and then we also have
• 1:09:04
  resources that teach you how to anoint
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  yourself and your home. Um the the best
• 1:09:10
  one that I think for the conversation
• 1:09:11
  that we've had is called the anointing
• 1:09:13
  blueprint. And so it'll teach you how to
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  anoint yourself, your home, your
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  finances, your children, and everything
• 1:09:18
  that pertains to you. Yeah.
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  >> And the biblical backing on anointing.
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  Yeah, it's really good. Well, thank you
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  so much again. It was such a blessing to
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  have you.
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  >> You're welcome.
• 1:09:27
  >> And let me know in the comments down
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  below what you got from this because I
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  got a lot from it. So, I want to hear
• 1:09:33
  back from y'all. Especially if you're
• 1:09:34
  like me and you came out of new age. I
• 1:09:36
  want to hear what this broke for you um
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  strongholdwise
• 1:09:42
  and how this has helped to renew your
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