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9-03-26 - NBA not harsh enough on Clippers/What if LA won?, CU needs to play D/Payton Prepping for KC · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is the appetizer hour with Brett Cain on demand.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a fun guy. Uh, obviously I love the game
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  Speaker 2: of basketball. Um, I mean, there's just more questions you
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  Speaker 2: have to ask me in order for me to tell
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  Speaker 2: you about myself. I just can't give you a whole spiel.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know where you're sitting at.
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  Speaker 3: Adam Silver has brought down the hammer on the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Clippers after deciding and determining that the Clippers conducted
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  Speaker 3: salary cap circumvention on Kawhi Leonard after a year-long probe.
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  Speaker 3: They are stripping the Clippers of five first-round draft picks.
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  Speaker 3: They fined the Clippers $ 30 million, and they've issued suspensions
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  Speaker 3: for Steve Ballmer, the owner, President Lawrence Frank, and President
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  Speaker 3: of Business, Jillian Zucker. The rulings have determined, after an
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  Speaker 3: outside firm, Wachtell Lipton, investigated the Clippers for over a year,
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  Speaker 3: that the Clippers actively initiated, facilitated, and induced for Leonard
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  Speaker 3: to obtain off-court revenue through four specific companies. That's millions
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  Speaker 3: and millions All right.
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  Speaker 4: You know, on this.
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  Speaker 5: College football Thursday where we have the CU Buffs in action,
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  Speaker 5: we are trying to get ourselves ready and prepared for.
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  Speaker 4: The opening weekend in the NFL next week. I did
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  Speaker 4: not think that we'd start with basketball, but after, you
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  Speaker 4: want to call it, I guess a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a fake out a couple of weeks ago when discussing
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  Speaker 4: the article that was released that said basically nothing's going
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  Speaker 4: to be done in regards to Kawhi Leonard and the
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  Speaker 4: LA Clippers. I remember sitting at Broncos training camp talking
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  Speaker 4: to Chad Brown about how ridiculous it was that the
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  Speaker 4: NBA is going to do something again, which is straight
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  Speaker 4: up lie to you. Now, after that article emerged, it
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  Speaker 4: came out that, and the NBA was pretty forceful in this,
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  Speaker 4: saying our investigation is not done. And we were just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But I have never seen a story so clear about
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  Speaker 4: someone who is getting paid under the table in a
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  Speaker 4: way that would cheat the system based on all the
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  Speaker 4: evidence that was put in front of you, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of this by Pablo Torre. The act of doing an endorsement,
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  Speaker 4: I do them. I am not one as famous nor
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  Speaker 4: expensive Ask Kawhi Leonard. But I do endorsements. The whole
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  Speaker 4: point of an endorsement is the exchange of you put,
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  Speaker 4: quite literally, your endorsement of a product out in public.
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  Speaker 4: They get the added benefit of, see, person... who is
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  Speaker 4: very famous and likes our product, I bet you would
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  Speaker 4: like it too. And when you have a number of
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  Speaker 4: different things that Kawhi Leonard is a, quote, endorser for,
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  Speaker 4: but you've never actually seen him endorse, it raises a
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  Speaker 4: lot of red flags because what are you paying him
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  Speaker 4: the money for? And the answer is simple, because the
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  Speaker 4: Clippers were cheating. Now, punishment yesterday. I'm just curious. Do
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  Speaker 4: you guys think that was a steep punishment? By the
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  Speaker 4: end of it, it was the loss of five first-round picks.
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  Speaker 4: It was a $ 30 million fine to Steve Ballmer. Year-long
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  Speaker 4: bans for Ballmer and multiple members of the Clippers front office.
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  Speaker 4: I think if I ask you the question, does that
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  Speaker 4: sound like a steep punishment? Nelly, does $ 30 million fine
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  Speaker 4: to Steve Ballmer, five first-round picks loss, suspensions for these guys,
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  Speaker 4: do you think that that's pretty harsh?
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  Speaker 6: Yes and no. The five first-round picks is huge. That
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  Speaker 6: is absolutely a punishment tailored to fit the crime. You
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  Speaker 6: could name any fine, though, like pick any number as
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  Speaker 6: a fine for Steve Ballmer. It's nothing to him. You
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  Speaker 6: said $ 50 million? $ 30. $ 30 million. He finds that in
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  Speaker 6: loose change at the bottom of his washer when his
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  Speaker 6: servant does his clothes. I should have... There's no way
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  Speaker 6: he does his clothes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: You could say they find him $ 70 billion. He still
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  Speaker 6: has another $ 70 billion. The money's meaningless. The five draft picks, though,
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  Speaker 6: that is... That's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: The five draft picks is big. The five first-rounders. I
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  Speaker 4: will say... You answer the question yes and no. I
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  Speaker 4: do the same thing. I think on the surface, this
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  Speaker 4: feels like it's a really harsh punishment. I do.
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  Speaker 3: $ 30 million to a man who has $ 170 billion?
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  Speaker 4: At least in net worth, and I know it's not
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  Speaker 4: liquid cash or whatever. $ 30 million to $ 170 billion is
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  Speaker 4: a rounding error. It's a lot of money. It's not
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  Speaker 4: a lot of money to him. One of the 15
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  Speaker 4: richest people on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Number two. Five first-round picks. Also sounds pretty steep. These
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  Speaker 4: are the Clippers' five first-round picks. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: they revert back to the original trade with Kawhi Leonard
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  Speaker 4: going to Toronto now. But if they do, they're getting
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  Speaker 4: five picks in return. Three are first-rounders, two are second-rounders.
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  Speaker 4: So if you want to cancel out three of the
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  Speaker 4: missing first-rounders going back to them from Toronto, you've basically
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  Speaker 4: flipped two first-round picks for two second-round picks. And my
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  Speaker 4: whole thing about this is how deep this went into
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  Speaker 4: not just doing this, but then covering it up. Steve Ballmer,
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  Speaker 4: less than a year ago said, or whenever this story
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  Speaker 4: came out, almost right when it came out, and we
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  Speaker 4: started talking about it, said, we welcome the league investigation.
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  Speaker 4: We have nothing to hide. It's either Steve Ballmer was
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  Speaker 4: so willfully ignorant on what was happening within his organization
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  Speaker 4: that he truly didn't know this and just got completely blindsided,
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  Speaker 4: which is highly, highly unlikely.
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  Speaker 2: Look, they conned me.
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  Speaker 4: Or two, he thought there was no way they'd actually
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  Speaker 4: do anything about it. And maybe behind the scenes, they
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  Speaker 4: give him a little slap on the wrist. And in
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  Speaker 4: this case, I truly think like this, the proper punishment
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  Speaker 4: for this is, I mean, look, Steve Ballmer is banned
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  Speaker 4: from the league for a year. His GM is banned
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  Speaker 4: from the league for a year. His other front office
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  Speaker 4: guy has to be out for six months. What do
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  Speaker 4: you think they're going to be doing? Not talking about
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  Speaker 4: Clippers stuff? Not having contact with people? What, they're not
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  Speaker 4: in the actual war room on draft day? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: all of this, I think it is a very, very...
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  Speaker 4: effective surface level punishment. But the big thing is this.
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  Speaker 4: When somebody cheats and cheats in a sport and make
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  Speaker 4: no mistake, I can't emphasize this enough to you. The
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets over the years, because the punitive nature of being
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  Speaker 4: in the second apron, the team that just won the
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  Speaker 4: NBA championship, that a week after winning the championship had
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  Speaker 4: their owner come out and say, I'm not going into
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  Speaker 4: the second apron. So that means we're going to lose
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  Speaker 4: some players this offseason. It is not beneficial to anybody
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  Speaker 4: to be in the second apron of this. When you
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  Speaker 4: skirt the rules in this kind of way and you're
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  Speaker 4: paying extra money to people in a blatant act of cheating,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's grounds for losing your franchise. Owning an
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  Speaker 4: NBA team is a privilege. There's only one of 30
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  Speaker 4: of them in the entire world. If you don't act
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  Speaker 4: in a nature that is conducive to keeping at the
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  Speaker 4: very minimum competition fair, you don't deserve to have a team. Like,
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  Speaker 4: to me, If you are willing to go to these
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  Speaker 4: lengths to cheat, what else are you hiding? What else
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  Speaker 4: has been going on? But here's the problem. The $ 170
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  Speaker 4: billion of a net worth of Steve Ballmer owns, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think they want to mess with it. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you guys saw a sort of veiled
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  Speaker 4: threat that was given in return in a response from
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  Speaker 4: the Clippers. I'll just read you a portion of this. Um,
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  Speaker 4: Watchtel has known about these introductions for months, yet raised
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  Speaker 4: them only at the 11th hour, talking about the guy
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  Speaker 4: who was doing the investigation, talking about the introducing Kawhi
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  Speaker 4: Leonard to team vendors and sponsors and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: They were aware of these introductions for months, yet they
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  Speaker 4: raised them at the 11th hour, a pivot that demonstrates
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  Speaker 4: the league's predetermined decision to reach an adverse finding here.
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  Speaker 4: But more importantly, and this is the part I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to get to, and as you well know, When somebody
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  Speaker 4: drops an and as you well know, you know they
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  Speaker 4: mean business. But the Clippers said, but more importantly, and
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  Speaker 4: as you well know, such introductions are both proper and
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  Speaker 4: commonplace in the league. We are confident that if the
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  Speaker 4: league spent 50 million investigating any team, it would find
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  Speaker 4: plenty of instances of team personnel making introductions to both
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  Speaker 4: sponsors and vendors in response to player requests. That is
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  Speaker 4: unsurprising because no league prohibits teams from making such introductions.
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  Speaker 4: He's basically saying, hey, bro, take a look at anybody
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  Speaker 4: else in the league. It's happening everywhere. And this is
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  Speaker 4: the exact reason why I thought the NBA was going
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  Speaker 4: to do almost nothing. But why go to this length
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  Speaker 4: instead of kicking them out of the league? Because of
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  Speaker 4: that right there. I think the NBA is scared to
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  Speaker 4: death of how rampant this could be. And they've been
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  Speaker 4: experts at damage control in the past. When we talk
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  Speaker 4: about Tim Donahue, oh, don't worry. It was just him.
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  Speaker 4: Was it? It was only that one guy. He kind
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  Speaker 4: of works with the same crew. You don't think they
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  Speaker 4: would have picked up on something for, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: months of him doing this? But they've done the damage
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  Speaker 4: control thing before. They did that with Donahue. He was
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  Speaker 4: somehow able to skate away from it. They go out
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  Speaker 4: here and they have everybody talking about how punitive this
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  Speaker 4: action is. But we find him $ 30 million. Drop in
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  Speaker 4: the bucket for Steve Ballmer. Drop in the bucket. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: we fined Kawhi 500 grand. He's made like 300 million
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  Speaker 4: in his career. Oh, well, we banned them for a year.
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  Speaker 4: Who cares? So we can't sit courtside at games anymore? Oh,
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  Speaker 4: we took five first-round picks. They're going to get five
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  Speaker 4: from the Toronto trade. I think on the surface, it
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  Speaker 4: looks like they dropped the hammer when they really just
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  Speaker 4: gave a slap on the wrist. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 4: It was easy to push out the previous owner of
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  Speaker 4: the Clippers, Donald Sterling.
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  Speaker 6: Why?
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  Speaker 4: Because everybody hated him. And Sterling, you know, there's rich people.
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  Speaker 4: There's people who have a lot of money. There's people
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  Speaker 4: who have bleep you money. Then there's a giant, like,
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  Speaker 4: Pikes Peak-sized mountain. And then there's people with Balmer God money.
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  Speaker 4: You can kick out Donald Sterling because he was just
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  Speaker 4: a rich guy. Ballmer has the Scrooge McDuck times one billion.
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  Speaker 4: If I wanted to dive in a pool full of
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  Speaker 4: gold coins like Scrooge McDuck, you would have to fill
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  Speaker 4: the Grand Canyon with it. And I think it terrifies him.
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  Speaker 4: I do. But if you want to talk about a
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  Speaker 4: blatant cheating scandal, and I bring up... Sorry, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: finish his point. He's distracted by a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 4: things angering me. I bring up the Nuggets part of
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  Speaker 4: this because the Nuggets have been forced at every turn
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  Speaker 4: every year, hey... Can't afford this guy because we're going
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  Speaker 4: to go in the second apron if he does get
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  Speaker 4: this kind of money from us. Got to let this
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  Speaker 4: guy go because we can't afford it. Got to let
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  Speaker 4: this guy go because we can't afford it. If you
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  Speaker 4: just went, again, Peyton Watson is still a nugget. If
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  Speaker 4: I just go, you know what, Peyton? How about you
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  Speaker 4: take two years, $ 8 million, but you get this random
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  Speaker 4: $ 40 million endorsement deal from the tree farm? Do I
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  Speaker 4: have to do a commercial for him?
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  Speaker 2: Nah.
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  Speaker 4: Do I have to make a social media post?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, there's like this youth soccer team
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  Speaker 4: you can be an owner in that will also pay
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  Speaker 4: you 2 million bucks. It was like that in a
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  Speaker 4: number of different things for Kawhi. Ballmer should be happy
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  Speaker 4: that this is the least they could have done. So,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know where you guys sit
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  Speaker 4: on this. Is it a hammer of a punishment? I
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  Speaker 4: don't think so. But I think on the surface, it
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  Speaker 4: looks that way. Am I glad the NBA did something? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's enough. But I don't. If you're
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  Speaker 4: the league, they're scared of two things. Number one, if
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  Speaker 4: they try to go any further than this, I think
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  Speaker 4: they're afraid of litigiously what would happen. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that they're afraid of the potential of the Clippers to
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  Speaker 4: start pointing fingers and naming names and other stuff across
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  Speaker 4: the league. So you guys tell me, am I wrong here?
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  Speaker 4: Is this sufficient? Am I not looking at this the
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  Speaker 4: So I do want to discuss that game. Plus some
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton audio. I thought that was interesting from yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: We get all that as we go along. Stick around.
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  Speaker 4: All right. So tonight is CU.
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  Speaker 4: Taking on Georgia Tech. I do want to talk about
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  Speaker 4: that in just a moment, but just a couple of
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  Speaker 4: texts coming through here. Texture says, I think the punishment
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  Speaker 4: is enough to deter others from doing it and enough
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  Speaker 4: to deter Balmer from doing it again. I think that's
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  Speaker 4: probably true. I think it's more of the embarrassment of
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  Speaker 4: being caught doing something like this than it would be
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  Speaker 4: the actual action of it, but you're probably right. I
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  Speaker 4: still think that A lot of times in this world,
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  Speaker 4: we punish the result of something and not so much
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  Speaker 4: the intent. It's something I've never understood. Okay, to give
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  Speaker 4: you an extreme example, can somebody really give me the
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  Speaker 4: difference between charging somebody with murder and attempted murder and
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  Speaker 4: why the punishments are so much different? If your intent
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  Speaker 4: was to kill somebody, does it really matter if the
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  Speaker 4: person was killed or not? You tried to do it.
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  Speaker 4: Shouldn't you be punished as if you did? Because you
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  Speaker 4: tried to. I don't think you should get a lesser
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  Speaker 4: sentence because you were bad at what you intended to do.
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  Speaker 4: I think you should get the punishment of what the
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  Speaker 4: intent was. And in the case of sports, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times what happens is we punish the result of
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  Speaker 4: something For example, in football, you can have somebody, there
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  Speaker 4: can be a hit over the middle of the football
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  Speaker 4: field that is not flagged. And if the exact same
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  Speaker 4: hit happens, but somebody gets knocked out and concussed, now
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden there's a flag, don't really get it. Again,
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  Speaker 4: the result of things, I think, shouldn't have a steeper
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  Speaker 4: penalty just if the outcome is worse than what the
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  Speaker 4: intent was.
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  Speaker 6: Or I think one of the stupidest rules in hockey
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  Speaker 6: is how the severity of a penalty is changed whether
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  Speaker 6: or not the guy's bleeding. When some guy gets blown
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  Speaker 6: up and they're like, we're going to check to see
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  Speaker 6: if he's bleeding, the hit's the hit, dude.
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  Speaker 4: I will admit to you that I am hypocritical about
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  Speaker 4: some things, and that is certainly one of them, because
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  Speaker 4: I just love the idea of checking for blood and
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  Speaker 4: having that be extra. As stupid as it is, because
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  Speaker 4: you're right, Nelly, it makes no difference on what the
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  Speaker 4: actual act of the penalty was, but it is funny
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  Speaker 4: to me.
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  Speaker 6: I know the ref is sticking his hands in the
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  Speaker 6: player's mouth like it's the Westminster dog show to see
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  Speaker 6: if it's a major or just a minor penalty. That
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  Speaker 6: is one of the dumbest rules in hockey.
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  Speaker 4: Texture says, murder dude, stay in your lane. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like my lane is kind of talking about
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  Speaker 4: whatever I want to talk about. That's the lane I got.
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  Speaker 4: It's a pretty wide lane, admittedly. It's wide. All I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying is.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of murdered bodies were dumped in the cornfields
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  Speaker 6: of Nebraska where you grew up. So maybe this is
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  Speaker 6: your lane.
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  Speaker 4: You don't know this. You don't know what I've been through.
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  Speaker 6: You don't know what the Milker Mafia has done to Brett.
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  Speaker 4: I have never murdered somebody nor witnessed a murder. Just
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  Speaker 4: want to say that on record. Bottom line is this.
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  Speaker 4: The intent was to cheat the system. That was Ballmer.
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  Speaker 4: Here's my question to you. Hey, Nelly, is this punishment
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  Speaker 4: different if the Clippers win a title during this run?
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  Speaker 4: You know what's easy to do? Punish the team that
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  Speaker 4: didn't do anything. The team that won, I think in
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  Speaker 4: this entire Kawhi iteration of the Clippers, I think they
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  Speaker 4: won like three playoff series. If they won an NBA title,
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  Speaker 4: if they won two, if they won, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean? If they won multiple titles, I almost feel
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  Speaker 4: like the NBA would be even worse more hesitant to
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  Speaker 4: give them a punishment because they don't want to make
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  Speaker 4: it seem like the skirting of the rules led to
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  Speaker 4: somebody else winning a championship. But this is the entire
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  Speaker 4: point to what I'm trying to get at is that
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  Speaker 4: the intent was there. It doesn't matter if they won
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  Speaker 4: or not. How about this? For another example, the Houston Astros...
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  Speaker 4: were punished because of banging trash cans, right? And more
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  Speaker 4: than anything else, what they were punished for was using
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  Speaker 4: video electronics to read what pitches were going to be thrown.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody parked in the outfield, stealing signs over from a catcher,
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  Speaker 4: relaying that to the dugout. That is a blatant act
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  Speaker 4: of cheating. You know who else did it, allegedly?
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  Speaker 6: The Rocks.
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  Speaker 4: And nobody cared because they lost 100 games. Anyway, guys,
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  Speaker 4: the intent's the intent. What does it matter? The result.
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  Speaker 4: And to me, I don't know if they would go,
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  Speaker 4: more harsh on the punishment, if they would go less,
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  Speaker 4: if they would try and cover it up more, if
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  Speaker 4: they'd put it more in a spotlight. But I guarantee
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  Speaker 4: you this, if the Clippers won a championship at some
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  Speaker 4: point over the last few years, I bet you it's different.
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  Speaker 4: And that's bizarre to me. So 303, 504, 0925. CU
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  Speaker 4: opens up their season tonight at Georgia Tech. So you're
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: going to have this brand new offense, the quote, go-go offense.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I do want to see, you know, everybody is excited
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: about the offensive stuff. And I'll be honest with you,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I am too. You obviously need that. I've seen the
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: CU offense be effective. I watched it with Shador and
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter. Now, different level of players. That's an NFL
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: quarterback followed with a Heisman Trophy winning player. But we've
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: seen the offense be stellar and result in losses before.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: There's one thing. If you want to prove to me
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: that things are different and things in Boulder are starting
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: to turn in a more positive direction, if you give
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: me a defense this year that is capable, is the
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: way I'd put it. I'm not asking for the world here.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: No eight balls and $ 2 million. World here? I'm just
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: asking for an eight ball and $ 2 million. Not asking
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: for that. I'm just asking for competency defensively. Consistency defensively.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Keep your guys in the game. Don't get gashed in
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: the run game. Don't let a whole number of things happen.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Get after the quarterback. Create pressure. If you can do that,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: then maybe things are going to be different. But I'll
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: give you just some of the scores from last year
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: against some bigger opponents. Houston put up 36. Georgia Tech
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: last year put up 27.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: BYU 24.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: TCU 35. Held Iowa State to 17. Then after that,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Utah put up 53. Arizona 52. West Virginia 49. Arizona
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: State 42. Kansas State 24. You can't win that way.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: And if you're going to run an offense that is
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: reliant on maybe some big plays and a lot of
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: different motion and stuff like that, you have to be
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: able to get stops on defense. I don't know if
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: you guys can name me who's a good team that
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: has no defense. That isn't capable of stopping anyone. It
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: just doesn't work. If they can show that aspect of this,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: much better. The other thing, it's a small detail, but
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: it's a detail in which is the difference between winning
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: and losing close games, which the hope is that you're
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: going to be in a lot of those this year
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and can come out on the winning side. I think
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: you need to see a strong improvement in coaching as well.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Clock management, knowing when to call what, knowing when to
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: take your chances and when to hold back, when to
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: get aggressive, when to get conservative. I want to see
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. And I think for Dion in year four,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: it's a giant proving ground. You know, I've said this
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: over and over again. There's nothing, nothing I would love
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: more because I... I mean, college football has been in
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: my blood since I was a little kid. This is just,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: it's all, it's where I was born was a place
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: where college football was everything. Despite the fact that I
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: wasn't even a fan of the team, of the place
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I was living in. But it's, it was life. And
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: there's nothing I would love more than see you being
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: a player, a championship contender in the Big 12 competing
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: for college football playoff appearances every year. But in order
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: to do that, you need to do the little things correctly.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: And the little things have been lacking. I think even
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: in the year you went 9-3, and Shador was throwing
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: the ball everywhere, and Travis Hunter was winning Heismans and
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: all that stuff, you had maybe some very talented players
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: that would make up for the areas in which you
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: were weak and be able to cover those things up.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: You know, the old saying, winning masks a lot of
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: different problems. But I think in the little categories of
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: clock management of maybe a bigger category, this team needs
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: to show improvement in development over the course of the year.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I need to see a different football team in week
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: 10 than I do in week one. I mean, that's
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: a must, especially... if you're bringing in swaths of new
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: players every single year before the season starts, if you're
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: basically starting from scratch every single year with very little
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: retention of a roster, you should be at the beginning
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: of the year kind of figuring things out and then
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: turn into a little bit of a well-oiled machine by
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: the time you get about halfway through the year. Everybody's
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: got time in the system. They build chemistry with each other.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Like you should be able to see things clicking at
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: a more consistent rate. So that's the stuff that, I mean,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: that's what I want to see from CU. To me,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: you got to bank a bowl game at a very minimum.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I think a seven win season should be what you
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: shoot for, like a seven and five record, make a
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: bowl game. And now do I think that that is
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: going to happen? I don't know, probably wouldn't bet on
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: you winning seven games. But I think that that has
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: to be where your thought process is. And one way
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that you can get there in a hurry, and Texture
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: points this out, it's one of the things that it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: football basics. Can you win on the line of scrimmage?
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Very simple. If you win on the line of scrimmage,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: odds are you're a good football team. Odds are you'll
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: win football games. So, I mean, to me, it is
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: about can you do the football basics properly? And maybe
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: that's a big part of what's been missing at CU
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: for the last, you know, three, four years. is just
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: from a basics standpoint, can you do that as well
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: or better than your opponent? As she says, Brett, you
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: don't have to worry about anything when you know you're
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: not going to get fired. I mean, I suppose that's true.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: But there's a certain level of personal pride that I
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: think Dion has. You know, there's one thing that I
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: don't buy into at all. Dion cares about winning. Even
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: if you want to say he doesn't care about it
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: for CU.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I first of all would disagree with that. You're doing right.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I plan on winning.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: But at a minimum, he cares about it for himself.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Dion has never been a loser in anything. He's been
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: a winner wherever he goes. If you think that he
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: just doesn't Doesn't care about that perception, I think you're
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: dead wrong. In fact, I know you're dead wrong. Now,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: is there more... If you're doing a pie chart of
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: how much does he care about the winning for the
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: university as opposed to for himself, you can draw that
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: line wherever you want to. And probably wouldn't get much
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: argument from me. Either way. But he does care. No
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: doubt about it. So 303-504-0925. Broadcasting from the back, it's
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: the Shanker Studios. Serious lawyers for the seriously injured. Whole
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: bunch to get to still this morning. Stick around.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Again, between the news at Kawhi Leonard yesterday, CU opening
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: up their season. We got some audio from Sean Payton.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: There is one thing as we get closer and closer.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: And look, guys, we're about... Gosh, you know what's going
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: to kill me? I'm dead serious here, Nelly. And thank
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: God we'll have... college football, and by the time it
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: gets here, a week's worth of NFL football.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: College football!
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: You know what's going to really hurt is waiting. The
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: show on Monday in preparation for the Broncos game against
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs, that one's going to hurt. Because that's like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: we've done the waiting up until college, or I'm sorry,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: up until the first week of the NFL season, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: now I've got to wait another day. That is going
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: to be a killer. But in doing that, a couple
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: things from Sean Payton yesterday, one of them talking about
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: preparing for Mahomes.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: I think, and I'm going to probably say the same
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: for Bo, you've seen enough things where he's going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: be 100%, and we're preparing for his best. We know
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: how talented he is, and I'm sure he's attacked the
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: rehab the way Bo has, completely different injuries, but that's
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: kind of our approach to it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: You have to just assume that Mahomes is going to
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: be 100%. Because if not, then you are giving him
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: some sort of credit that is totally unnecessary. You are
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: giving him a pity that is never warranted with Patrick Mahomes.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: You go out and operate as if he is going
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: to eat your children and steal your soul as he
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: has done for the last, I don't know, decade in
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Kansas City. So you have to continue to prep that way. Now,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: one of the things that I was curious about was, hey,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Mahomes coming off a knee injury, he's facing the team
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: that led the league in sacks last year, was historically
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: great at rushing the passer, even with if Jonathan Cooper
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: isn't going to be playing for the first portion of
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: this season or maybe all year, whatever. What does the
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: pass rush expectation look like?
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: There's certain strengths that they have, whether they fall into
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: more third down or passing situations, and yet One of
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: the strengths of that front has been our ability to
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: play more than just the starting unit. So, yeah, I
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: think all of them have had experience playing. And then
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: you get into what you think the pitch count looks like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: maybe week one. That can change. And you go from there.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Now, that is true. When you talk about the strength
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: of what they've been able to do as an entire
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: unit is, yes, they cycle through. Different guys that keep
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: bodies fresh, especially for late in games. Like, you don't
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: want to burden Nick Benito with 90% of the snaps
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: so that when you get to the fourth quarter and
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: it's time to really put a game away, he's capable
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: of still having the burst to do it. This just
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: eats a little bit away at the caliber of player
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: within the rotation. And you have to make sure the
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: guys you're rotating in are effective. Again, Jonah Ellis is
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: a talented player. Q Robinson has a lot of potential.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: But you're losing nine sacks out of Jonathan Cooper, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: you're losing, I believe it was seven and a half
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: out of John Franklin Myers. It's a bunch. It's a bunch.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Are you capable of filling that void? I think they
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: can be. It's just going to look a little bit different.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: when you get to this year and then, um, starting
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: faster to me, the key all year to, if the
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Broncos can maintain their level of success, maybe not, not
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: solely from a, a win loss standpoint. Cause I think
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: that's going to be hard, but the, the standard of being, um,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Somebody who's in contention for a Super Bowl in the
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: AFC West, in the AFC in general. I think the
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: main thrust of this is going to be your offense
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: is going to have to do some lifting for you
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: this year, and it's got to be earlier in games.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: That means starting faster. Here's Sean Payton on that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: Listen, we've talked about starting faster because we've had two
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: playoff teams that in both cases didn't necessarily start real fast.
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: So we've got to look at the schedule leading up
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: to the start of the season and coming out of
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: the gates, ready to play a good football team. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: certainly Kansas city is a good football team.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And typically their defense is one that is one
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: of the top units in the league. So it's going
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: to be a really good test for you. Um, I
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: believe this Broncos defense has less sacks this year, but
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: significantly more takeaways. This year's version of the no fly
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: zone will be intense. That's the hope, you know, in
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: much the same way you can find these things that
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: kind of cancel each other out. Having the record the
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Broncos did in one-score games last year is not going
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: to happen this year. Not to say it'll fall off
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: a cliff like KC's did the season previous. But you aren't.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: It's just almost statistically impossible for you to repeat what
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: you did in one-score games last year. Just not how
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: the NFL works. That's number one. Number two, for as
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: good as the defense is, it's really hard to imagine
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: they can't get more turnovers as you just mentioned. I
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: believe that's going to happen. And that can maybe X
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: out a little bit of the lack of pass rush
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: help that maybe you've lost over the course of this offseason.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: And then moving forward from that, it's a matter of
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: can you take what was one of the worst units
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: in the league as far as three and outs and
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: improve that number? And I think that answer is yes.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: So you have things that like, yeah, not.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Things that were positives for you last year that I
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: would say really hard to replicate. And that would be
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: one score game record and sack totals missing two pretty
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: key players from last year. On the flip side, I
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: would say, can the turnovers improve? Or I'm sorry, takeaways improve? Yeah, absolutely.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Can third down percentage, three and outs, faster starts. Can
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: that change? Yeah, I think that can change for the better.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: And that's why I think that having pretty substantial offensive
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: improvement is so important. It's because if you don't, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: think it puts too much stress on a defense this
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: year that's going to need some help. So 303, 504, 0925. So,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: The Rocks last night, or yesterday afternoon, they win against Baltimore.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: They take two out of three. The only loss they
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: suffered in that series should have been a walk-off home run,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: if not for a robbery in center field on a
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: 425-foot bomb. But they win, move on to 54-86. That
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: means that magic number to get beneath that 100 win
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: mark is now nine more wins. They now need to
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: go nine and 13 the rest of the way. Entirely doable.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: They have coming up a series against Boston, which is
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: going to be difficult. Then Cleveland. Then Toronto. All of
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: those things not going to be cakewalks. but somehow need
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: to find nine wins, Boston, Cleveland, Toronto, Mets, Brewers, Toronto again,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: and finish the season with the Yankees. That's what they need.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Capable of nine. Capable. So we'll see. When did, hang
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: on a second. Sanford's update his mission for win 63.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: He said in game.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: I believe 160.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: 160.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: 60.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I looked at this entirely wrong.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: Hang on.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I was looking at the wrong thing. That was Baltimore schedule.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Stupid me. Hang on. It's St. Louis coming up now.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Erase everything I just said. I was like, finish the
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: season against the Yankees. That doesn't sound right. St. Louis,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: they do play the Yankees here in a little bit.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: in the series after this. So it's Cardinals, Yankees, Tigers. Padres, Mariners, D-backs,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: White Sox. I knew it was something easier to close
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: out the year. And Chicago, like, Chicago's pretty good, actually,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: this year. They're above. 500. It was not the Yanks.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: You need to find nine wins in that stretch. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: think you can do it. It's there. It's there for
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: the taking. So you have one, two, three, four, five, six,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: seven series left. You need to take two wins in
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: two of the final series and one in each of
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: the other. But yesterday... I mean, I say this for
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: a team that's bad, that's 54-86. The Rocks don't give up.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Watch the end of the game last night. It was
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: bottom of the ninth. You're down one, two outs. Zach
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Veen hits the line drive into right center that scores
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: a run, ties it up, sends it into extras. You
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: get to the top of the 10th. You slam the door.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: You don't allow a run. You get up in the
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: bottom of the 10th. Can't find a way to manufacture one.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: They give up two in the 11th. And I kind
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: of thought to myself, okay, I guess it's over. You
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: had your shot last inning. You blew it. And then
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: TJ Rumfield with a nice little, almost like a fister
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: into left field that scored a run. Then once again,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: two outs, two guys on, second and third, Brett Sullivan
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: at the plate. It's a very similar looking ball to
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: TJ Rumfield's, which is sort of a looper in between
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: short and left field. Two runs, score, you win. They
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: just keep fighting. Whatever you want to say about that team,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: they fight. So 303, 504, 0925, Sean Moss to Texas
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: on one price, one person, one hour. I do want
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: to get back to this Kawhi stuff because I have,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I think maybe a different outlook on than most people
• 41:47
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• 41:53
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• 42:13
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• 42:15
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