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76 Mysterious 8-Foot Black Cube Found in Mississippi Woods—No Tracks, No Explanation · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, Episode seventy six with Marcus Ellis. He
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  Speaker 1: is the representative of the North American dog Man Project Mississippi.
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  Speaker 1: He came back on, Well, initially, I've seen him on Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, post something about a big black cube and
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  Speaker 1: if anyone has seen one, and that I've ran across
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  Speaker 1: one in the forest here, So does anybody know anything
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  Speaker 1: about this? I would like to talk to somebody. So
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  Speaker 1: I reached out to him and we were going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it in the first episode we had, which
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  Speaker 1: ended up being about his experiences with dog Man and
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  Speaker 1: Bigfoot and what he does in the organization. And you
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  Speaker 1: guys can go back and check that. That's episodes. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's in the sixties somewhere, so not that long
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  Speaker 1: maybe the fifties, it's not that long ago. Maybe the
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  Speaker 1: seventies too, Not quite sure. I should actually look that
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  Speaker 1: up and be a little more prepared before I do
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  Speaker 1: these interests. Anyhow, So I said, hey, I need to
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  Speaker 1: have you back on to actually talk about this, and
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  Speaker 1: he was like, oh, yeah, for sure. Let's do a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of recent search and it's quite a fascinating story.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know quote quite what it was, but you
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  Speaker 1: powerful Marcus Ellis.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Tom, good to be back with you, brother. I'm honored.
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  Speaker 1: Did you did you enjoy being messing up the first
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  Speaker 1: three words as much as I did.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be totally honest with you. You stuck the landing.
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  Speaker 2: You did great.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: That would be like apion a teen at ten.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, all right, all right, so I passed it.
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  Speaker 1: I will be I will be in the Olympics now
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  Speaker 1: according to markets. That's fine with me. I'm good with
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  Speaker 1: a buddy. So uh okay, before we get into what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, the day. Let's go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and remind every one more time, uh who you are
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  Speaker 1: and what it is that you're doing what you try
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  Speaker 1: to promote.
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  Speaker 2: Okay again, my name is Marcus Ellis. I am a
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  Speaker 2: cryptid investigator, uh here in my home state of Mississippi.
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing this for about eight years. Uh, still
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  Speaker 2: boots on the ground, still out in the field, you know,
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  Speaker 2: going and doing my research and everything. I am the
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  Speaker 2: head representative for the North American dog Man Project. I
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  Speaker 2: was appointed to that position about well, probably about two
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  Speaker 2: months ago, heading for for three months, so.
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  Speaker 1: For the entire the entire North American dog Fan Project,
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  Speaker 1: or just the state of Mississippi.
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  Speaker 2: Just the state of Mississippi. I'm sorry, Yeah, the state.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
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  Speaker 2: No, I couldn't. I couldn't take on the big the
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  Speaker 2: big thing. That's uh, that's Jodie Cook's job. I'm on,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him have that one. So no, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just from Mississippi. But yeah, maybe one day. But I
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  Speaker 2: think you like what you do. Oh yeah, absolutely. I
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  Speaker 2: was a field investigator and alien abductee uh researcher for
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  Speaker 2: mouf on for about five years. So I investigated UFOs
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  Speaker 2: out in the field, and you know, I tried to
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  Speaker 2: help people who were alleged alien abductees. So it's it's
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  Speaker 2: been a it's been a full eight years. And of
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  Speaker 2: course I got my start with I mentioned this in
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  Speaker 2: our last one my good friend and buddy M. K. Davis, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bigfoot investigator and uh Patterson Gimmelin film expert.
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  Speaker 2: He he got me started and trained me and taught
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  Speaker 2: me a bunch and uh, you know, so here I
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  Speaker 2: am today, just still.
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  Speaker 1: And I can Yes, I think you're I think uh,
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  Speaker 1: I've been. Everyone I've spoken to he is is the
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  Speaker 1: state representative. So I've spoken to the state representative of
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  Speaker 1: Arkansas and the state representative of New York, Alfred Santa
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  Speaker 1: Rica and Arkansas. Is his name, tells me at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, Robert, Robert Prevo. That's his name, Robert Prevo.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and every one of you, gentlemen have been.
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  Speaker 2: All the time.
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  Speaker 1: I was fantastic. Get me that he is, Uh he
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  Speaker 1: is booting the awesome guy. Part of the guy. I've
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  Speaker 1: had him on a couple of times myself. Definitely, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's he's wonderful and everything I was saying every time
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  Speaker 1: I've spoken to one of you, gentlemen who represent the
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  Speaker 1: organization I've been, it's always been upper class. You've always
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  Speaker 1: they they I think they picked well balanced, well you know,
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  Speaker 1: meaning people for the organization, and you definitely represent that
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  Speaker 1: to the highest that I've seen. So congratulations, man, I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that very much. Certainly try and we'll give him
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  Speaker 1: my base. And that's all we can do. It's all
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  Speaker 1: we can expect to do with this life, man, is
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  Speaker 1: give it our best.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so their initial reason. So last time, we just
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  Speaker 1: kind of went down that route, you know, some of
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  Speaker 1: your experiences and stuff that we can maybe even touch
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  Speaker 1: on again today because someone were quite quite astounding to me,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, uh was I think you've you posted
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  Speaker 1: a post somewhere, I don't know where it was. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and you you you were talking about that you found
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  Speaker 1: a black cube. You send me an email. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to actually put that in here.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: And this this black cube of representation that you're true
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  Speaker 1: for us there? Could you tell us a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about that, you know, it's it's uh, it's quite a
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  Speaker 1: fascinating story from what I've heard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I when I encountered this thing. I
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  Speaker 2: had absolutely and I mean now I still don't know
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  Speaker 2: what what I was looking at. I still don't know
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  Speaker 2: what I saw. Anything you hear me say is just
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  Speaker 2: going to be pure speculation. But I kind of getting
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  Speaker 2: ready for our show. I went back and did a
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  Speaker 2: little research and didn and we can talk about that later,
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  Speaker 2: but I was I was in one of my research areas,
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  Speaker 2: which is square dab in the middle of a wildlife
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  Speaker 2: management area. So when you hear me say the term
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  Speaker 2: w m A, that's wildlife management area, this place, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the crazy thing. We talked about that
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  Speaker 2: last time as well. I go to these places and
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  Speaker 2: and and I'm looking for bigfoot, and I don't get bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: I get a UFO I got. I go to a
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  Speaker 2: place looking for a UFO and I get a ghost.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the craziest thing that happens now a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times when I go to places fortunate unfortunate, however
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  Speaker 2: you want. If I am doing something that's say which
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  Speaker 2: nowadays that's my primary primary function. I mainly steer toward
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  Speaker 2: the cryptis. It's mainly bigfoot in dog man what I
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  Speaker 2: where I focus my time in ergies Now, I love
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  Speaker 2: to being with movef on. I love to investigating cases
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  Speaker 2: and offer them. But I had I had just taken
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  Speaker 2: a new position in my my regular work job, and
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  Speaker 2: when I did that, it just totally obliterated any any
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  Speaker 2: free time that that I had, uh to do that.
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  Speaker 2: So I backed out and reinvested in the cryptid thing
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  Speaker 2: because I can do that at my own time, my
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  Speaker 2: own pace, and my own leisure.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, the the the the the black cube thing
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  Speaker 2: was I mean, I mean even right now, I'm still
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  Speaker 2: kind of speechless when I stop and think about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how this happened, and uh, the circumstances behind it, and
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  Speaker 2: and and let me say this to to you know,
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  Speaker 2: the audience. Now, during the course of you and I talk.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: If I leave a little detail out or if I
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  Speaker 2: forget something or I get something kind of you know,
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  Speaker 2: frontwards or backwards. I did a video on my YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's what you're talking about. I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to remember the name of it, but my YouTube channel
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  Speaker 2: is unexplained Mississippi. And I think the title of the
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  Speaker 2: video was the Black Box in the Road or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. I think that was a title. So in
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  Speaker 2: that video. I did like a really deep dive on
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  Speaker 2: everything because I was sitting here and I was kind
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  Speaker 2: of focused. I had all my notes, and I was
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  Speaker 2: able to put it to the camera pretty much the
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  Speaker 2: way things happened and the way it went down. So
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  Speaker 2: if anybody wants to go back and look at that
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  Speaker 2: deep dive, you can. You're certainly welcome to go do so,
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  Speaker 2: and I would encourage you because again I may say something,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a little out of out of place, or
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  Speaker 2: or I may you know, I may forget something. So
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  Speaker 2: so that's really kind of the definitive source. But me
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  Speaker 2: and you were going to hit it with our best
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  Speaker 2: shot and see whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there's a bit of a delay I've noticed to
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  Speaker 1: no big deal, we'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The wonderful world of internet satellite in the country, my friend,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's.
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  Speaker 1: What Yeah, buddy, Yeah, buddy, Well that's the good I
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  Speaker 1: gotta do. You live in the life, If you ask me,
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  Speaker 1: I I kind of like that. I mean, eventually, if
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  Speaker 1: I could take this whole rig and take it out
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  Speaker 1: there to where I want to be and just you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe call Eline up and give me a special connection,
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  Speaker 1: I would do the same thing and I would be
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  Speaker 1: sitting like with nature behind me, the jungle behind me,
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  Speaker 1: and you guys would see where it is that I live,
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  Speaker 1: because that would be cool. Eventually, I want to do that,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a year or two off, but that's the plan,
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  Speaker 1: and then start doing my own investigations and going around
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  Speaker 1: and actually talking to local people about their experiences. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll take my Mexican girl with girlfriend with me, who's
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  Speaker 1: going to be on this Friday, so this is good.
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  Speaker 1: Well you've guys already seen it, but her growing up,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to want to take her around when
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: we make enough money with the show. Is to go
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  Speaker 1: around to different parts of the whole peninsula, go into
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  Speaker 1: these Mayan communities they still exist, find a translator, and
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  Speaker 1: actually go into some of the really deep Mayan like
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  Speaker 1: folklore and you know, experiences and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's the plan, dude, Yeah, yeah, that's that's awesome. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, you've got so many things you can go
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  Speaker 2: chase down and look at where you're at, because you've
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  Speaker 2: got lots of what temples and and oh yeah know,
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  Speaker 2: mounds and and and you know, all type of what
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  Speaker 2: what I think is possible Nephilon architecture you know things
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  Speaker 2: that go back to you know, the ancient Nephilon. I
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  Speaker 2: mean that that's a passion that I've acquired over the
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  Speaker 2: last few years. And of course M. K. Davis when
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  Speaker 2: he started teaching me and training me, he was all
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  Speaker 2: the time talking about the Native American Indians and Indian
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  Speaker 2: mounds and giants and all. And I'm sitting here, you know,
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  Speaker 2: riding around with him in his jeep, and I'm like, giants,
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  Speaker 2: Is he talking about Bigfoot? You know what's he talking about?
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  Speaker 2: And of course then then then I get it. He's
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  Speaker 2: talking about actual giants that have been documented from where
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  Speaker 2: you're at all the way up through Canada. Uh so
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  Speaker 2: you got something.
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  Speaker 1: The Middle East is riddled with him. The famous one
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  Speaker 1: is the Giant of Candahart. Just go look at that.
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  Speaker 1: Look up that that's recent too. That's it's not even
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  Speaker 1: that long ago. That happens right right.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna's true.
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  Speaker 1: You would love we We're gonna get through this black
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  Speaker 1: box story if it gets both of us in the end.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna get through the story and then we're do.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna keep talking because I love talking with you. You're
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  Speaker 1: so you have something like a corner copia of like
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  Speaker 1: just ideas and stuff. So we're gonna have a good time. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to when this happened, where this happened, and
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  Speaker 1: how this happened, dude, because this is is eating me up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well what happened? Was this happened? I'm
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  Speaker 2: checking my notes here. This happened on March twenty six two.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing about this again, which I mentioned it,
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  Speaker 2: I think in our our last talk, I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: night isle. I'm I'm a i'm a up at the
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  Speaker 2: crack of dawn guy. And I have just found out
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  Speaker 2: over the years that hey, it's great if you want
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  Speaker 2: to go do paranormal stuff, CRYPTI stuff in the late
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  Speaker 2: night hours. There's nothing wrong with that. You know, you're
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  Speaker 2: you're probably going to be successful and you're going to
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  Speaker 2: get some some action and some encounters and stuff. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of times when I when I do what I do,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't encourage this, and uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: do take as much precaution as I can. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of times when I do what I do, I'm solo,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm by myself. Of course, again, I take
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  Speaker 2: precautions that if I'm in areas where I can legally
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  Speaker 2: carry you know, I'm I'm I'm carrying a sidearm. H
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  Speaker 2: If I'm not, you know, I've got blades and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that to you know, help defend myself. I use garment,
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  Speaker 2: GPS stuff to let people know where I'm at and
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  Speaker 2: to be able to track me in you know that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just do stuff that's straight out of
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  Speaker 2: the David politis uh missing for one one deal, Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, he wouldn't be happy with me knowing that
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  Speaker 2: I kind of go a lot of times by myself.
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  Speaker 2: But you know I'm I'm as careful and as coutious
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  Speaker 2: as I possibly can, and people know where I'm at
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  Speaker 2: what I'm doing, and God of God to God. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I had gotten up early this particular morning and I
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  Speaker 2: decided I wanted to go out to It was like
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  Speaker 2: a county over from where I am. I live in
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  Speaker 2: Yazoo County, So I just decided to throw my gear
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  Speaker 2: on and strike out. It was crack of dawn and
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  Speaker 2: it was about a close to an hour drive from
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  Speaker 2: my home to this wm A. So when I when
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  Speaker 2: I got to the w m A, the sun was
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  Speaker 2: well up. At this point it was a beautiful, sunshiny day,
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  Speaker 2: but the day and night before we had had a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of rain and drizzle in our area and
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  Speaker 2: and in that area. So when I pulled into the
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  Speaker 2: w m A, you you you have to be aware
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  Speaker 2: of your surroundings. You you you seriously need to watch
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  Speaker 2: and look and see where you're at, which way you're going.
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  Speaker 2: Am I alone? What what's moving around around me?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: And And I'm not necessarily talking about cryptis. I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: about people because some people people are up to good,
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  Speaker 2: but you have that small percentage of people that are
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  Speaker 2: up to no good. So I'm just kind of watching
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  Speaker 2: the roads and looking, you know, before I go into
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  Speaker 2: the w m A, what am I driving into? So
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking ahead of me, and up ahead of me,
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  Speaker 2: I can see no tire tracks. The gravel is like
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: got this little light powder, and you can tell the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: only thing that has touched it. It's where the little
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: rain drops it headed. So in front of me was
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: bone dry, bone dry, And that's important that really comes
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: into play here. So I want to stress that right now,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I start down the WMA and I'm heading for this
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: place that that's called some people call it Long Value
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: and it's a good little all. I mean, this is
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: not It's probably five six seven miles from the entrance
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: of the WMA. So I got a little ride in
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: front of me. So as I'm going down through there again,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: there's nobody moving around in the WMA, no vehicles, no cars,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's quiet as a church maun. And again
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: no tracks in front of me, nothing has come either way.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm looking behind me in my rear view mirror
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm seeing my tire tracks that that is being
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: left behind me. At the time, you know, I wasn't
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: really dwelling on that, but after what happened, it provided
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: me with a huge clue. So I get to my
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: my little research spot and I get out and you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I've got to I've got a trifil meter, I've got
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: a couple of other gadgets that I set up around
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: my vehicle just to see if I can get anything,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: you know, some k two meters and some different things.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just experimenting and trying to see what
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I can pick up if anything odd occurs whatever. So
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I'm parked down this little side road and it's probably
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: i'mist say, maybe fifty sixty feet from where I'm parked
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: to the edge of the road, the main road that
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I just turned off of. So I walk out to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the road and I look both ways. Don't see nothing,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: don't hear nothing. I go back to my vehicle. I'm
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: playing with my gadgets. Nothing's going on there. I'm not
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: hearing any wood docks. I'm not hearing any odd sounds.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It's just the birds and the insects and everything. Everything's
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: just just normal. So I decide, after you know, ten
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty minutes, I looks like today probably going
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to be a bust, I'll just I'll grab my camcorder
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and I'll just do a little video and if it,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: you know, if I don't fumble up and say something
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: silly or whatever, I might be able to throw a
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: little video on for my YouTube channel. So I get
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: my camera and you know, I've got it, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: kind in my hand or whatever, and I walk out
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: to the road and I'm just you know, documenting to
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the camera. And usually what I do is, I'll pan
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to my right, I'll look down to my right to
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: see if anything's moving, and then I'll look to my
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to my left, which is the way I came in.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So I had done this two or three times, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: unlike maybe the third or fourth time, I think I
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: still got my camera going. And I walk out to
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the road and I look to my left or excuse me,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: my right, and I don't see anything. No traffic, don't
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: hear nothing. I don't hear no vehicles, nothing whatsoever man
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: made at all. Just birds, crickets, just normal stuff. Well,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I panned my can to the right, looking down the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: way that I drove in, and I see this black
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: object sitting in the middle of the road. And you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I'm still running my camera. Of course, I've got the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: lens pulled all the way in, so to my naked eye,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: this thing was a lot closer. I would say it
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: was probably two hundred and fifty yards away. It wasn't
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: very far at all, might have even been less. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I see this black thing there, and the first thing
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: that goes through my mind, because I'm alone, I'm like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: oh goodness, I got somebody driving my way right, And
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of course I immediately go on alert because I'm not
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: near my vehicle. I've got a little job to get
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: back to it. And I don't know who this is,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: so I probably need to hot foot it back to
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: my vehicle and at least get inside it so that
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: if I need to pull out, I can pull out leaf.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So I do that, you know, I immediately, within just
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a few seconds of seeing this big black thing sitting there,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the first thing that goes through my head is it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: a big black pickup truck. You know, it's it's it's
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: it's it's John Boy with his big jacked up truck,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: and he's heading my way. He's cruising through, looking, you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: for deer to run out in front of them or
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: something like that. So I turn turn, I turned back
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to my to my left, and I literally I start
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: walking very fast. And then the next thing I find
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: myself doing, I'm running for my truck because the gears
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: are finally starting to turn, and I'm realizing to myself,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: number one, all of a sudden, I've got I've got
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: this little fear and out of me, and I don't
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: understand that. The next thing I start realizing is I
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: didn't see tires, I didn't see wheels, I didn't see
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a grill, I didn't see a bumper, I didn't see
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a wind shift, and this thing I'm going that thing's
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: at least eight feet tall and it's a solid black square.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: So I throw myself in my camera on the front seat.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I crank it up, and I start easing toward the road.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: You know, just that fifty sixty feet that I've got
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to get up to the road. And this is happening
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: within a minute, minute and a half, as long as
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it took me to run to my truck hoping in.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Crank it up and start easing up to the road.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And before I get to the road, something off in
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: my head. It wasn't It wasn't something external. Let me
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: say that now. It wasn't a voice from somewhere getting
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: beamed into my head. I'm not saying that that wasn't
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: what it was. It was my voice, but I don't
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: consciously remember where this come from. But my voice said,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you just saw something you were not supposed to see. Wow.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And when that thought went through my head, the hair
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: on the back of my neck just stood straight up.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And I as I'm creeping up to the road, I
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: am all of a sudden, I'm enveloped in fear. I'm scared,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: And all morning long, I didn't have a worry in
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the world. I didn't have a care in the world,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: but I just I'm realizing now that I just saw
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: a big, huge, cube shaped, solid black object sitting there
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the road. It was so big,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: it was probably eight by eight. You would not have
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: been able to get around it. If you were in
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: a vehicle like a little suv like I was, or
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a pickup truck or even a car, you would not
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: have been able to go around this thing. If it
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: was still sitting there. It was square dab in the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: middle of the road and it was totally blocking the road.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I did not hear anything, I didn't see anything. The
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: only thing that I can say now is I felt
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a huge fear. As I just just said, I was scared,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and this just this just rolled over me and I'm
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: sitting here. The next thing that goes through my head
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: was I've probably liked, like most of your listeners and viewers,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I've been keeping up with the television show The Secret
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: of Skinwalker Ranch, and you know that place has just
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: got all kinds of wild crazy, right, I think going
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: on and and sadly a lot of the things that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: that go on and have gone on, they don't they
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: don't talk about on the show. But that's another topic
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: for another time. But in one of the episodes that
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I had recently watched, they were sitting around a picnic
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: table in the middle of the night, and all of
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: a sudden, one of the guys looks over on this
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: little hill, you know, not fifteen twenty yards away from them,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and they see this this golden it's like a like
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a box, like a queue. I think that I think
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: it was Travis who saw it, but it wasn't very big,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: you know, probably about that wide and you know, probably
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: what two three feet tall, And of course that freaked
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: them out, and they're trying to figure out what it
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: was that they just saw. This thing was just just
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: floating there in the air, I guess, watching them, observing
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: them or whatever. So that was the next thing that
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: went through my head. Did I just see something like
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: what they experienced? Because I had never heard any reports
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: of black boxes and cubes and stuff like that. I mean,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you know, I have. I did a little homework before
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the show to night, and I found some things about cubes.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: But a huge, flat, black colored eight by eight box
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: just appearing in the middle of the road when it
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't there the last time I had walked up. Now,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's there. And then when I
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: pulled up to the road to continue on, and like
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I say, I'm I'm I'm really shuk up and frightened.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: At this point, I look back, this thing is gone.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It's gone. It's totally gone. And and now I'm more
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: puzzled because if it had been a truck, I should
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: have been able to see it easing back down the road.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: But I saw no tail lights front or you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: or back right. It's brought daylight. It's the beautiful sunshine morning.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Visibility is wide open, and I can't see this thing now.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: So now I'm even more shook up. Now I'm wondering
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: what in the world it is that I just saw.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: And I've got all these at this point, I'm scaring myself.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: But I'm trying to figure this thing out, and I'm
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out what what I should do. And
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and I decided right then, right there, I got to
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: get out of here. I gotta go. Yeah, I wasn't
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: very familiar with what where I would end up if
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I went to my right, and you know, at that point,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what the heck i'd run into down
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that way right. I just decided two things. I decided
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: two things. I'm like, if this was a vehicle, because
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: remember what I said, my tire tracks. If this was
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a vehicle, I would see its tire tracks. So I'm like, Okay,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I cut my dash cam on. I had my camcorder going.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And if I run a phone a black pickup truck, yeah,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna feel like an idiot. But at the same time,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I'll know. I'll know what it was I saw, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I could go, Okay, Marcus, you just scared the Bejesus
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: yourself for nothing. And I have done that before too,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: by the way, but turned, I turned to go back,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm just kind of creeping along. But I'm going
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: fast enough that that all your little turnoffs. I stopped
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and looked at every turn off, if you could turn
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: off the road to the left or to the right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I stopped and I leaned out and I looked to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: see if there were tire treads going up in were
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: where there was a camp ground, a little side road,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: what nothing. There was absolutely no tracks. I got all
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the way to the exit of the WMA. My tracks
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: were the only tracks going in and coming out. So
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: this thing was not something that had wheels on it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It didn't have tires. And I convincingly, one hundred percent
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: beyond a shadow of a doubt, saw that this was
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: not some type of vehicle with cracks, wheels, tires, whatever.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: This thing was sitting there in the middle of the road.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It appeared out of nowhere and it disappeared into nowhere.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: And the amount of time that elapsed from when you
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: saw it until you didn't see it anymore, you were
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: telling me it's about less than two minutes.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I would say two minutes tops tops, at least top.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I mean from getting from getting from the road to
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: my vehicle, sitting down, cranking up, pulling up to the road,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: it might not have even been two minutes. I don't
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: think it was.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: The think that happens when certain situations like that in
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: your brain and starts firing off and you start going
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: through all these things that could possibly be It seems
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: like a long time, you know what I mean, Like
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: time kind of stretches itself when when when fear kicks in,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: everything kind of slows down so that the experience of
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: time changes that it really leaves or it really lends
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: itself to more questions than any kind of answers. I mean,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: what what if you come up with what have you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: thought about this?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Well that that's a that's a really good question. Again,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: my mind kept going back to, to uh, skin walker ranch.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I kept thinking about that, that that golden looking box
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: thing that they saw floating there close to where they
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: were sitting around a picnic table. Yeah, so, like you
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Like people, people will be, you know, nighttime investigators. You know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I've had you know, great goggles and others on who
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: will say they'll be in the LBL or some you know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: kind of famous place for this type stuff a little
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: more better known. They'll see a portal, a portal like
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and they'll see it, as he's told me, like he'll
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: see it and then he'll walk to the side and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: see how it actually angles, like where it's not three dimensional.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Like who's to say this is some type of something
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like that, but like in the daytime where like, yeah,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: we might we might perceive it as some type of
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: metal or you know, in the worst case wood type structure,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: but maybe it's something else where. Like if you got
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: near that thing, like it gives all those kind of
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: vibes because it's so opposite of what whatever this reality,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this three D dimension is that it makes you upset
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean. So that could
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: also be a part of the time, right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, another thought too is when when we
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: look at Bigfoot encounters and some of your dog Man
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: encounters and things like that, even UFO encounters, you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot and and I'm hearing dog Man two, but but
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: probably more so with Bigfoot. They emit. Uh. In forsound,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: infrasound can affect you in in loads of different ways.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that that infrasound can instill
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: and bring on is a huge amount of fear. I've
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: experienced it twice.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: The first time I was me and m K were
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: in a one of our little research areas and we
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: both got really bad sick at our stomachs, I mean
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: both us at the same time. We both got well
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: better minutes later, at the same time, I went back
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to the same place, the same research area by myself,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and no sooner had I got out of my vehicle,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I was just absolutely terrified. I mean, it just rolled
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: over me like a way. So I don't know if
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: this thing was emitting something on purpose to keep you
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: away from it, to warn me off. I thought about
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: a portal. Maybe this is some type of portal that
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: just opened up in this in this you know, wm A.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: It made me think of it made me think of
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: two other things we'll get just I'm sorry. The time
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: thing makes it where we can't really bounce off each
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: other the best we wish we could. They like, but
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, I don't know what you know
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: about Islam, but they have that giant black box in Mecca.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's Mecca. Yes, it's in Mecca that their around.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: And then you also have the the the developed esthetic
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Jews in New York where they wear the little black
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: boxes on their wrist and on their forehead. And then
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: you also have the you know, the six sided thing
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: on Saturn Saturnalia, the Saturn alias the black on the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: on the on the pole of Saturn. It's a six
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: sided thing. And if you take that and then fold
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that up, that also makes a cube. It's just that's
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: where my brain, that's where my brain just went, like,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you know, like, why would they go around a black
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: cube like that? I mean, this is pure enough a
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: speculation you've got anybody you want to correct me in
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the comments, or you say I'm ignorant, That's fine. I'm
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: not trying to be ignorant. I'm just trying to just
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: imagine we're literally shooting in the dark haired this gentleman,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Marcus is yes, please, I.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Don't want this thing. Was I mean, you know, I
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: would be a liar to tell anybody listening or watching
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: what this thing was.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: So was it sitting square? Was it sitting square? Was
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: it sitting square to the road or was it like
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: angled where like you know what I mean, like angled
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: where you can see the three d ands of it?
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: It was it was sitting square. It was sitting square
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: day up in the middle of road. It was not
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: a old or anything like that. And you know when
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I say it was a black box or a black cube,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: you know now that now that you're you're hitting me
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: with this. I don't think I ever really saw the site.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: If I did, I didn't see much of a side
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: because again when I saw it, my first thing was
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: you need to get in your vehicle, right, So so
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I so I was just like I was just overcome
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: because again, at first off, I thought it might have
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: been somebody up to no good trying to creep up
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: on me or something. But then, like I said, when
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I started, when I started moving toward my vehicle, I'm like,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: there's something wrong here, something's not right about this. But
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: again I considered that this could have been a portal,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you know, this, this could have been something that just manifested.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I also considered the possibility what if this was a
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: landed uf up. What if this was a vehicle from
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: somewhere else that poppy in or landed. And here I am,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Right unexpected, Like this guy's in the woods here. Why
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: is he here? Because I you know that because excuse me,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Like you know, you have the four to one one stuff.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: When people understand like these natural wildlife areas and state parks,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: national parks, these things, a lot of them are huge
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and most of the time they're uninhabited. There's people, you know,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: we have our you know, dog man researchers. If you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: get special permits, you know you can go hunting. You
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: might ones that are all the more popular, you know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: certain parts of those are maybe you know, hikers are
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: out there and things like that. But when you're in
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: a place like where you're at. You could just be
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: It's just like you're saying wrong pace at the wrong time. Dude,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it's really weird. If you guys have if anybody knows
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: anything about it, please write the comments. I'm blown away
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a boy, this this is we Yes.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I would love to hear uh. If if anybodyody else
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: has heard anything about you know this this phenomenon. But
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: you see, you used a word just a moment ago
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: when you you were talking, and that word that you
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: used was government. The next thing that went through my
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: head while I'm driving along there, what if this was
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: a government object? What if this was something our government
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: was playing with and messing around with. What if they
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: put that thing there? What if they had it materialized there?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: What was it? What was this purpose? Was it some
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: type of drone? Was it some type of weapon? Was
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: it some type of portal that they're able to control
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: and utilize. I don't know. But but again what I
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: do know is this something inside me said you need
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: to get the hell out of here. Yeah, you just
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: saw something you're not supposed to see. That was that
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: was the main thing that was punching me in the
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: back of my head. And and and trust me, if
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: that was me saying that, I believed every word I
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: was saying. I saw something that I was not supposed
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: to see. Wow, and it was time to take the premises.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Were there fields? Were there fields close by? Or was
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: it just completely wooded.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: It's wooded, it's it's it's wooded, swampy. There were no open.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Fields, Okay, okay, okay. So because I was thinking, like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you know, so it could be like.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: You know that this grove out of and and that's
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the road.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: That's not what I meant. What I was thinking is like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: if there's a field there that you know, maybe it
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: would be something that would be set in the field,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: but maybe there's no space for it. The only place
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: for it is the road. Or it could be intentional
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that they know that there's a road there. And if
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: it's something like say, for example, you know, you're early
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: in the morning and you're out there, you know, and
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: it's you know, you still got a little you know,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you know, crusting your eyes and you're rolling around, you
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: got a cup of coffee going, and this thing just
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: drops right in front of you. Just drive into this thing,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: and who knows what happened. It is such a remarkable
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and unusual account. I haven't heard anything quite like it,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: which is the way why I reached out to you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to begin with. I was like, what is he talking about?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: This is it's incredible? All right?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Well, you know again, when when I got home and
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I was processing this, uh you know I was, I
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: was just as freaked out and uh, you know, just
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: as confused as probably more so. So I reached out
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: to uh, some other paranormal investigators and I hit them
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: up and you know, hey, have y'all ever heard of
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: anything like this? And the closest thing that I did
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: come up with, Oh gosh, I'm trying to think of
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the name of the guy. But he has a research area,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: him and hi his team. Oh, Trey Hudson, Yes, Trey Hudson.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: He sees too. But they're not they're not black. They're different.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: They're there. I think they're I think they're more so
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: kind of clear and translating. Yes, yes, supply team members
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: have walked into these things, which my god, I can't
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: even imagine that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: But but anyway, Yeah, and when they go into the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: into it, their heat signature disappears.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they wind up further out than were right. Yeah,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: it's originally when I don't know exactly. You know what's
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: interesting about this too, because you to go with Trey,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: you have to have an indie n d A, a
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: non disclosure agreement because he doesn't tell everybody. You might
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: be close to an area without knowing it. Because I think
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: he's summer's around there, you know what I mean, you
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: might want to reach out to him and then to say, look,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: this is what i've experienced me.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't think this is Trey's area.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like if when I was asking
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: my questions and and I'm not sure if I I'm
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: trying to remember who it was I talked to, and
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I might have I might have actually chatted with Jessica.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I don't remember now. But I think if if if
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: if I had been in his area, he maybe he
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: would have reached out. But but what he's describing the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: locale and everything, that's not Yeah.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's another state. It's another state, but it's
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: just another state too far away. But then, okay, look
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: he was telling me about this region. This is I'm
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: trying to make a little connection here. Because what he's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: saying about this region is that it's not just it's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: called the Meadow, guys, the Meadow Project. Looking up at
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Trey Hudson actually episode right, I had an episode with
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: him on you guys can go back and listen to it.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: But he was saying, it's not only this metal, it's
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: not only this meadow. It's other places around it that
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: are also happening too. Where he gets where he thinks
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: he's walking out across the creek, but he's actually returning,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of confusion. But it's not localized
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: to a like I think it's like a two acre
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: field or four acre field, whatever it is. It's not
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: localized today, but it's an area like that. But who
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: knows that maybe you might have stumbled across something similar
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: to what he stumbled across, and maybe you should maybe
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: go if you if if you know God willing, you know,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: if you have the strength to go out there and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: actually to look into that find yourself. Another I would say,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: if you're going to go out there, mister Alis Marcus,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna go out there, dude, that would definitely
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: take someone else with you, because those those I mean
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: dog man accounts are more common than something like that.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Oh by farah bigfoot and canter way way more way
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: more prevalent. I've been back to that place half a
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: dozen times, and I've never seen or experienced or felt
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: anything like that. I could be really wrong. I mean,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not there in that place twenty four seven. I
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: don't live there. That black box may pop in every
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: other day, I mean, who knows, But all the times
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: that I've gone back and tried to find evidence of
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: it or see it again or whatever, it's never been there.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And I won't be frank with you, I don't think.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think I want to see something like that again.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I was to see, you know, if
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I was to have another bigfoot encounter like the two
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: that I've had, which I always, you know, laughingly say
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: is my dream encounters, I'm way over here and it's
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: way over there. Same thing with my dog man sighting.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I was way over here and it was way over there.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I take that any day, any day, see that black thing,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: and and then possibly and I know, I'm I'm I'm
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: maybe cracking wise here, and I don't mean to, but
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: because it's really not funny. But you know, to run
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: the possibility of being in one of David Politis's books. No,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I don't want that. I mean, I think i'd rather
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I think i'd rather see a poor to dog men
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: charging at me or something before I want to see
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: one of those black things.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the fear of the unknown that gets
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: us the most. You know's someone who like who hasn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: had a dog man encounter, and who hasn't had a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: big foot encounter, and hasn't had of course this black
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: box encounter that you've had, sees them as being similar.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: For me, a black box I can kind of just
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: walk away, let's just start floating and moving. That's a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: different feeling for me, just from this side of the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the the golf, whichever golf you want to call it now,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. For me, I think there were I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: think the least scary would be bigfoot. For me, it's
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: just a feeling I have because I've heard a lot
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: of dogmen can be rather nasty, but this one has
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: that eerie, this eerie what the f you know is,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: what is that? And then having I've seen something I'm
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: not supposed to see to be the first thing that
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: pops into your mind, puts that that fear in you.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: So it makes sense to me, But who knows, man,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I do really know what to say. It's it's it's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: it's such an incredible thing, but also so weird. I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: don't know, man.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing about it is in that in the
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: time since this happened, you know, I've kind of kept
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: my eyes open and my ears open. And I won't
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: name any names here because you know this is your
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: show and not theirs, and I'm not here to promote them.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: But I also don't know. You have so many podcasts
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and things out there, YouTube channels that are creepy pasta right,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: And here's why I say what I'm saying. I did
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: see a couple of episodes of this particular YouTube channel
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: that was talking about these black boxes, and when I
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: was sat there and watched it, it was I don't
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: know how many it's been since, but there were two
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: distinct episodes about these huge black boxes sitting out in
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the middle of the woods like you were talking about
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: a little while ago. They're sitting out in fields, they're
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: sitting right off the trails, they're sitting just inside the
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: tree line, and supposedly in these shows, there were people
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: talking about what happened when they got close to him.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: There was a military presence. I just don't know. And
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: again I reached out to a particular big name. He's
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine. I won't call his name, but
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: he's one of the big paranormal guys, got a huge
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel, excuse me, huge internet presence. But I asked him,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: you know about this particular thing, show whatever, and he said,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, he was honest with me. He's like, Marcus,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I can't I can't tell you it's it's you know, real,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: you know, true, false, whatever. But he said, I just
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: have to caution everybody. If you're not seeing the witness
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: right there in front of the microphone, in front of
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: the camera, there's just so much AI generated creepypasta, you
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: don't know what's real and what's not. So that's the
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: only other thing that I have found that specifically talked
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: about a black box or black box is sitting off
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: in the middle of state in federal parks, like what
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: happened with me. You know, as the old saying goes,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I can neither confirm or deny. But where where they
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: got the idea of this from? I don't know, but
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: the cube shape thing does pop up. When when I
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: was a field investigator from mouf On, the cube shape
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: UFO was a thing. It people did, you know, have
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: encounters with cube shaped UFOs, and you know, I was
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: able to find a couple of things here that that
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of popped out of me. For example,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: in Colombia, February of twenty twenty, a silver huge cube
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: was spotted and I take it was in the form
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: of you know, uap UFO. October twenty twenty first, Missouri,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: a silver cube was spotted. September thirty first, twenty twenty four,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: in Prague, a white silver cube was seen. And then
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: when we had all the information in data come out
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: about the twenty seventeen Department of Defense or you know,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: disclosure release the videos the tic TAC and all that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Right after that, uh uh Ryan Graves who was a
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: former you know, military pilot. He's he's become quite famous
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: now for I think he even has a podcast talking
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: about UFOs and stuff. But but Ryan and some of
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: his you know, flight members, they encountered, uh these cube
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: shaped ufo. They were they were clear, you could see
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: inside of them, and and what they saw inside was
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: a sphere, you know, touching each corner of the cube,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and this thing would fly. You know, their their their
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: their military jets. Now, if you know, we were talking
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: about David Politis earlier. If anybody has seen his movie
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Missing for the UFO Connection, it's a really good film,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: by the way. But this case here, I had watched,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I had bought the video, and I'd watched it a
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: couple of times because I keep up with David's work.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: But the second time I watched the movie was one
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: of the times after I had encountered the Black Cube.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: And what happened he talks about, and some of your
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: listeners probably you there was an alien abduction case that
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: happened in October October twenty fifth, nineteen seventy four. Carl
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Higdon Junior. He was out elk hunting. He was forty
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: one years old at the time, and he had taken
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: a day off from his work and he wanted to
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: go do some elk hunting. So he was out in
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: the woods by himself, and you know, long story short,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: he went to shoot this elk and he fired his gun.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: He fired his rifle and in mid air, the bullet
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: hit something and just dropped to the ground. The next
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: thing Carl knows, he sees a cube shaped UFO, a
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: cube shap, a huge cube shaped object off to the side,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: and and then you know, beside it, he encounters this
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: humanoid being who comes up to him and they start talking,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: and this being invites Carl on board the cube, and
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Carl goes on board the cube and uh, they're they're
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: they're just kind of having a chat with each other.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: You know, what are you doing? Why are you here?
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: What are you know? Well, we're we were here hunting
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: up too, you know, we're collecting species of animals from
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: your planet. And uh, you know, eventually Carl was was
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: released and he came back. He was even able to
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: to find the bullet and uh they showed the bullet
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: in the uh in the documentary and and you know,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: it was it was flattened. I mean, this thing impacted something.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And that's what Carl said that that he went on board.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: It was a cute shaped a cute shaped object. It's
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: probably into it, just like it was. You know, so.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Seriously, that's probably what you're seeing, Like, of all the possibilities,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: you know, if we're if we're playing corn Hall. We're
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: trying to you know, the easiest one is the closest one.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: If you're if you're receiving or looking up and you're
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: finding you know, like accounts like that, who's to say
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: that's what just didn't that didn't happen to you. I mean,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: it's just they probably weren't expecting you. You just you know,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: they're whatever they you know, I'm sure they're lazy. They're
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: lazy sometimes too in the morning or early afternoon, and
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: they just kind of sit down in the middle of
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: this thing and they go, oh man, there's a dude
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: of it there. And you can probably even can sense
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: your you know, your feelings and your emotions that you're
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have saw that, and they're goh, show, okay,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: we got to go in and blink out of existence.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: It's more likely than not that it's if we were
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: to speculate, it's probably what you're seeing is some type
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: of UFO.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I if I had to really put
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: my if I had to lay the cards on the table,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, if I had to lay my cards
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: on the table, I would lean this toward probably an
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: unidentified flying object or some type of interdimensional object. And
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: what you said, I really really hit the nail on
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: the head with I really feel this thing popped up.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: It did not realize that I was there. It didn't know,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: it didn't expect me to be there, and boom. I
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: walk out to the road, I turn around. It sees
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: me and and it's like, Okay, this person and shouldn't.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't we shouldn't be here. He shouldn't be here again,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. And when I vacated it
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: probably want to hid and vacated too, because I mean,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: we both whatever it was, we both saw each other.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: So I really believe what that's been my theory. You're
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: kind of the first person who enunciated it and put
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: it out there. I think this thing popped in, landed
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: or whatever, not counting on somebody being there and boom
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: there I was.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: That is so so crazy that you know the unlikely
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I say, for example, we know these things exist, right,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: we know that there's cube space crafts and the likelihood
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: that someone sees one of them or like one in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: a million. So not only do we not know that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: that they are that, you know, we still dont know
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: how to categorize it. And that it happened to you
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: is probably one in a billion chance. You just a
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: drop sometimes do We're just up in the bucket, you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Isn't it just a fascinating part
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: of existence too? You know, you see and experience something
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: that possibly very few people have ever seen. You should
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: consider it. So, I mean, it's scary as it is,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and I messed up as it is. There's a there's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: a there's a thing about that whatever that means, God's plan,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: God's will, something something happened that day that that is unexplainable.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: But it's still fascinating nonetheless, right. Uh.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: You know, it's really no different I think about this
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: all the time. It's no different than than a person
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: who is told, hey, if you go to this this
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: this lake, in this certain spot, man, you're gonna catch
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: some some some large mouth bass. Every time you put
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: your hook in, You're you're going to get a large
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: mouth bass. Or if if if, if your buddy tells
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: you hate this section of my property, if if you
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: if you get there between this time of the morning
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: and this time in the evening, you're gonna get that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: that big book. You're you're gonna you're gonna put that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: rack your walk. So if if you go out and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: you're looking for a deer or you're trying to get
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: that large mouth bass. In my case, I'm out looking
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: for the unknown, and I'm open, I'm open open to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: finding and seeing it. And you know, I'm not bragging.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Please don't think I'm bragging when I say this. But
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: of course I had no idea to look for something
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: like this. I kind of know what to look for
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: when it comes to bigfoot and dog man and and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: situations like that. This was totally off the books. This,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: this was not in the manual. You know that this
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: was not a part of the pop quiz or or
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: or or it was part of the pot quiz, and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to study for it. So but you know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: my point is, if you go out and you're looking
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: for these things and you go to where, Because again,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: this place where I'm going is known for bigfoot activity,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: and I probably didn't stress that properly at the start
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: of the interview. This place is loaded down with bigfoot activity.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: They have a legend there in this place called the Redman,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and it's orang of tangish orange bigfoot or big foots
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: that have been seen there. My first bigfoot I saw
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: was on that very same road, about four miles past
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: where I saw the black queue, same road, when I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: saw what I think was a juvenile bigfoot lean out.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: He was looking, you know, the opposite way from from
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: where I was. He leans out of the grass and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: then leans back in and he's gone. And it was
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: a reddish orange colored rang a tangish colored sasquatch, right,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: And I know what I was looking for.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: And that's the.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Same road, same WNBA, same road.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Wow. So how many people are how many friends of
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: yours or you know, you don't have to tell me,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: but like, are there other researchers in that area? No?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: But pretty much me and m K are about the only
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: two people that that that go into that and that
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I'm aware of. If there are other researchers that go there.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: And again, you know, I always tell this and and
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of researchers and investigators will do this.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: You know, we always use the tag an undisclosed location.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: So when I put a video up, I'll say I'm
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: in an undisclosed location, because you have to people do
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: live out there, right, People have honey cabins, and property
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: out there, And the last thing I want to do
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: is be the guy who, well have that big mouth,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: you know, idiot looking for bigfoot. He's got all these
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: cars coming down my road and they're shooting and drinking
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: beer and stuff. I don't want to be that guy.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be that guy. I'm not gonna trespass.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do go where I'm not supposed to go.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do anything I'm not supposed to do.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm very careful about you know who I'm telling,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: and rub right, m K is about the only person
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: who knows.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I will say this, there was a couple that I'm
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: friends with. They were it was probably simultaneous, but this
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: couple and m K were the first people that said, hey,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: if you go out here, you know your your bigfoots there.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: So I just kind of I kind of took that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: little place kind of under my wing.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: It's very interesting. Then. It's an interesting place where interesting
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: things happen. And this one is I think you just ran.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: It's one of those it's like the first person to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: see a dog man kind of thing, or the first
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: person to see a wind to go or something like that.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: You might be one of the first people to just
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: see something like this, and it might be something new
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: that we have to add to our radar of like
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: odd occurrences, and then maybe you know, it'll happen more
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: often or maybe more people will step forward. So Marcus,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: this is uh, this has been incredible. Tell me what's
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Tell me what's next on the docket? And the North
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: American Bigfoot dog Man area of your neckative woods which
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: you got coming up?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I can't think of anything really specific. I will
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: say this as far as the North American dog Man Project,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: if you go to our website North American Dogmanproject dot
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: com and yes, that's a pretty big mouthful. We we
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: recently had a case that was brought to like that is,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: if you guys have not seen this, you really need
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: to go to our website and check it out. Our
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: our founder Jody Cook, who's one of the you know,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: the premiere UH dog men investigators. You know he was
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: he was looking into dog man before probably before a
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: lot of people. And of course he founded the North
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: American dog Man Project. And anyway, where did where did
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: this story come from? I give you three guesses. In
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: the first two that don't count the land between the lakes.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: He was contacted by some people who had been in
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: the the l B L and they were on their
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: way out. Now I don't know. I don't know anything
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: about the people. Jody does, and and you know, I'll
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: leave that up to him if if he discloses anything
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: about them. So I really don't know anything about them.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: But what happened was they were on their way out
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: of the l b l uh I think it was
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: night time, and they they they had a thermal camera
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: going and they were just kind of filming, as I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: take it, they were walking or driving out of the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: the l B L and something caught their eye and
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: they stopped and they ran the film footage, and when
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: they got home and started looking at it, they were
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: they were gobsmacked by what they they found and what
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: they allegedly found. And you can see the stories that
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: at our website they what what what? Jody and and
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of the other n A DP guys, I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm very much leaning that way with them.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: But what this this footage allegedly shows appears to be
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: a female dog man or dog woman holding a pup
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: and the the the footage and stuff is just really
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: really cool. I mean, uh, when when Jody first started
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: telling us about it, he was he was really excited.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: And I don't blame him. It's a it's a heck
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: of a case. But but we've got a lot of
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: YouTube videos that you can access and watch detailing the case.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: And uh, and I would encourage anybody if you're if
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: you're a dog man, you know, person that's interested in
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: the subject. Uh, you definitely need to go to the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: North American dog Man Project and check this out. And
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I've made some friends up in the l
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: b L. Martin Groves, he's a He's become a really
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: uh close friend to me. Martin is just one of
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: the sweetest guys. And and I watched a video clip
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: of Martin a couple of weekends ago, and look, you,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Martin was smart. And I knew that he was just
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a good old, down home country Tennessee boy. But when
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: I when I listened to him talk about the l
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: b L, this certain section of the l b L,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: what he what he what he talked about when it
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: came to the Native American presence A connection two to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: the country of France. Okay, I think most people you
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: probably you've heard of the story of the Beast of Jevydant.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: You know, way back in ancient times in France, there
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: was this werewolf creature that was roaming through the countryside, killing,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: you know, just people left and right. Well, eventually the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Beast of jev hou Don, who was viewed as a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: weir wolf, a shape shifter, it viewed as a were wolf.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: It was eventually shot and killed. Well, one of the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: people who was party to the trapping, shooting and killing
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: of the Beast of jeev Don moved came over from
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: France and and and ended up square edapp in the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: middle of the Land between the Lakes and bought land
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: and property there. And when Martin was talking about this,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, so the guy, one of the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: guys who helped kill the Beast of jevu Don ends
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: up in what is modern day Kentucky, in the Land
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: between the Lakes, where we've got just dog man activity central.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy. And Martin found this out. Yeah
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: before I have not been to the Land between the Lakes.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: But as crazy as that may make me, I'm going
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: I've got to go. And I'm hoping maybe I can
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: meet up with some of the people that I've become
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: acquainted with Martin. Martin is not doing well right now,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: I think, so leave some prayers and tho.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I've been trying to get Martin on
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: for many years. But he's a very busy man. But
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: that's nothing, you know. I think one time we had
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: a storm and a tree hit his house and we
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: couldn't do it then, and then he his books picked up,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: and then he's you know, he's he's he's getting out
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: there and he's telling that his story is encountered in
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: ninety three, which is if you've ever heard that anywhere,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I think the best place to listen to it is
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: over on Tony Merkle's channel, if you ever listen to listen.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: I listened to that like four times before starting this podcast.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: I think I've listened to it four or five times too.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: And and I hear something new from it every time,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: and and and you know, you're talking about me in
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: this black box and me being scared. I can't. I
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: can't imagine what him and his partner went through that night.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I just can't.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: No, he has he says ptsd F. He won't he
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: won't even go in there. He'll be like, yeah, it's
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: over that way, over that way, and he's and oddly
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: enough also very interesting. Dolphin always sees the show up
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: at cemeteries and the lb L is full of them,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: full of them.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Well that that that. Let let me tell you this.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: One of my research areas has B and m. K
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: call it the Gates of Hell. It's three Indian mounds
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: and the and it's basically they're they're basically in a triangle.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: You have a huge main mound that is on one
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: side of the road right next to the Sunflower and
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Yazoo River. Then across the road you have have the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: two mounds sitting kind of across from each other. Now,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: now this is the crazy thing. Every time I have
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: gone to those males. Every time when I met the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: two mounds that are you know, across the road, the
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: two that they are basically across from each other, I
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: have never had a bad experience. Now I have had
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I've heard weird things while I would be hiking around
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: those mounds. I mean I have where those two mans are,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I found some huge canine prints. These prints were five
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: inches wide five inches long. They were huge canine. And
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: that's how I met Martin. You know, I sent Martin
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: my pictures and said, hey, I'm not saying this as
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: a dog man, and I'm not, but these prints were
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: above average. And and when I told Martin where I
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: found them at, you know, where these three Indian mounds are,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: he was like, well, you better be on your p's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: and q's because dog Man, Bigfoot, they're linked to Indian mounds.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: And as you pointed out, they are linked to cemeteries.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: And there are dozens of probably hundreds of cemeteries in
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: the land between the lakes, yes, and now the main
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: mound where you know, the big one, the main event,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: so to speak. Every time I've gone over there at
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: that mounth, I've had something negative happen. Every single time
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Had just.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: You know, most of the time when I go Now,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: you're right, I mean most of the time when I
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: go the it's it's I'm a genius, you know. I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: wait when it's hot and it's summertime and the grass
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: is this tall and the water moccasin's are out, and
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: I go, okay, Marcus, you can't go over to the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: main mans. Let's go walk around the two good mans
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: and and I do. Now come fall and winter, when
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: the grass is is down and all, I will up
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: on the main mound. But I'm gonna be frank with you,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I'm very very hesitant to do it that main maun
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: there's been some bad I don't know what, but there's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: been some bad stuff that's taking place on that mound.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: And and it's still there. It's it's I don't think
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: it likes us, and and it will let you know it.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Me and m Cave had lots of scared experiences happened
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: out there. We'd probably have to do another show of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: just about that.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Oh well that's uh, dude, don't don't invite me into
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: a good time without me saying yes, we're definitely gonna
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: do that. Uh uh Martinus, I want to thank you
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: so much for coming on today and is sharing this
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: this experience with me. Man, I really appreciate it.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: You're You're more than welcome, glad to It's an honor,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: and uh, I love you and I love your show,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: and it's a it's the privilege in a lot of fun.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Look, I love talking about this stuff. So anytime I
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: can come on with you or anybody you know, I'm
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: happy to do it. And you know the thing that
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: that I I don't I don't mean this arrogant when
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I say this, but people in Mississippi. I say this
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: all the time. People in Mississippi are so hesitant to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: come forward and talk about their experiences in their and
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: and and my thing is, I get that. I understand that,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: and I'm with you. I made the things that I've had.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: You know, it took me three months to finally tell
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: somebody that I saw that dog man. I don't know
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: that I wanted to believe it, but finally I just
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: after all those weeks, I'm like, Okay, dude, you've eliminated
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: everything else that it could possibly be. It is what
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: it is, that's what you saw. So my point is
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: I want to be out there. I'm not trying to
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: be a rock star. I could give a rip about that.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: I just want to be out there and and and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: let people know that I'm here through my website, through Facebook,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: n A, d P. Whatever. And if you do have
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: an experience and you want somebody to talk to, I'm
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: not gonna laugh at you. I'm not gonna make fun
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: of you. If you don't want me to use your
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: name anywhere or anything. You know, Confidentiality is is is uh,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: you know that's a given if that's what you want.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I just want to be able to help you if
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: you need help, and I want to listen to you
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: if you want somebody to listen to you. So that
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm doing what I do. I mean, yes,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: I love this. I love you know, getting out and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: hiking and exercising, and I love the mystery and uh,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: you know, the thrill of the unknown. And but you
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: know that being said, I try to keep on my
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: shoulders and be Cain Collishes you have to. But that's
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: why I'm here, you know, Tom. That's that's why I
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: do what I do.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do what I like doing what I do.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: What I'm trying to do is connect people with other
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: people basically. I mean, the stories are what they are,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: and it's what brings people in because of the unknown
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But at the same time, I'm
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: trying to create a or foster foster community. I hate
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: the kind of words, but to get people that I
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: enjoy being around, who are just open for anything. But
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm not going to you know,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: condemn you for your experiences and and uh and that's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: really important. So where can they reach out to you?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Not just people in Mississippi. Anyone can read from anywhere
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: and then he can direct you if you need that help.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Where can people find you out Marcus if they have
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: had an experience they want to come forward with.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, you know, if you want to get
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, adult man centric, you can contact
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: me through uh www dot North American Dogman Project dot com.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: You can find me there on Facebook. I have a
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: North American dog Man Project Mississippi chapter group. It's it's
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: open to the public. You know, you can you can
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: come join up and uh as things happen with with
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  Speaker 2: the n A d P. I you know, I put
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  Speaker 2: pop stuff up there so you can contact me there.
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  Speaker 2: I have a website www dot Unexplained Mississippi dot com.
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  Speaker 2: You can contact me through the contact button and my
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  Speaker 2: email address is unexplained m s at gmail dot com,
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  Speaker 2: so you can. I'm pretty easy to find, it's not
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  Speaker 2: too hard to track.
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  Speaker 1: No worries that.
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  Speaker 2: Explained Mississippi at YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there's a there's a there seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a theme. Once again, Thank you so much, dude for
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  Speaker 1: coming on and uh and we'll do we'll do another
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  Speaker 1: one later on. We'll talk about the mounds and what
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  Speaker 1: experienced you and m K Day has had out there.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it, though, I'd love to hear that.
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  Speaker 2: That that that truly is no joke, honest to gosh,
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  Speaker 2: that is that. The things that I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: that's happened to me out there, it'll it'll, it'll make
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  Speaker 2: the hair on the back of your next stand. If
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  Speaker 2: this is a very spooky place, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, man, that sounds like a date. So thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much, buddy. Remember, guys, we
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  Speaker 1: are the I, we are aware. Love you all and
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  Speaker 1: have yourself a wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Day, sun everything