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Knowing Immigrants Rights with Lee Paul Hallada · Justice Team Podcast

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  I.
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  Welcome to this episode of the Justice Team Podcast on the Justice Team Network.
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  I am Bob Simon, your host, and today we're gonna be talking about what are
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  your rights as a person on American soil.
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  We have on Lee Paul Alata, who is a criminal defense, civil rights
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  slash personal injury lawyer here in Southern California.
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  Not so much civil rights, not too
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  much civil rights.
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  Um, it all
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  ties in.
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  I think it ties in because you're still protecting their rights, but
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  I think as far as civil rights.
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  An attorney is the ones that will go after the police officer or go after the
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  government agency for those violations.
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  But I guess I'm a civil rights defender if that's the case.
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  And I think that's what over lines criminal immigration and that's why I keep
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  doing a lot of promoting of due process.
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  It's like it's basic and not a lot of people get that.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  you've done some good social videos and I think this is actually the first time
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  we're meeting in person, but we DM and we talk and I've seen, you know, we're.
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  We're mid-June 2025 while we're filming right now.
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  Just so people we're in Los Angeles area.
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  You're in Long Beach, right?
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  Cerritos.
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  Cerritos, right.
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  So Southern California.
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  Yeah.
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  And you know, what we're seeing and hearing, and I think people have a lot
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  of questions like, what are my rights?
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  And that's, that's go from the rights, the people that are being affected right now.
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  First of what are you seeing and what are you hearing?
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  What are some types of violations or some things that people should know.
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  Um, a lot of it comes to the people that are being stopped.
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  They don't know.
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  The off that the officers or the ICE agents are lying to them.
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  I've talked to a couple immigrations because some people come to me like, oh,
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  they're just picking up the bad people.
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  No.
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  What it is, is they have the right, just like I say, think of like
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  whenever you hear criminal rights, you have the right to remain silent.
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  You can ask for an attorney.
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  I. You don't have to sign anything.
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  'cause what's happening is these ICE agents are telling us they're
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  gonna take your kid away if you don't sign this document.
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  Wow.
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  Or, um, one, one person said, oh, this is for a COVID test.
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  We're just doing a COVID test.
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  And they're actually signing away their, their rights to defend
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  themselves in immigration court.
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  And that.
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  So when people are saying that they're just tricking and
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  pulling these people in, no.
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  They're lying to these people, and the biggest thing is they don't know.
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  They don't have to sign anything and they don't have to talk.
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  You'll see some social media people run up.
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  No, don't say anything.
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  Don't say anything because they truly don't have anything against you, but
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  they can make you sign that paper and says you're basically giving
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  away your rights to defend yourself.
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  In a civil case.
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  I'm sorry, in an immigration case.
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  Wow.
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  I mean that's, and it's.
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  But, but people, just to be clear, people, if you're on American soil regardless,
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  immigration status, you have rights.
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  Yeah.
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  And I think there's a quote from, um, justice Scalia before he died,
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  saying even if you're undocumented, you're, you're, you have the right
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  to due process and that's guaranteed
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  by the US Constitution.
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  Yeah.
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  And people think, oh, it's just a criminal case.
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  No.
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  Even if you have welfare and you have welfare recipients are trying to take
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  away your welfare, you have due process.
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  It's not a full on.
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  Jury trial, but you have the right to know what's against you and represent yourself.
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  And defend yourself before your welfare rights are taken away.
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  So this is the same thing with immigration.
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  It's, there's a different process, but you have that process.
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  Like I have an example of immigration attorney that just told me where his
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  client, what's actually in process.
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  So if you run his paperwork, he has a case.
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  So he, this guy actually, he got picked up and he showed me within
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  four hours, the guy's son showed his dad's location in Tijuana.
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  Within four hours of four picked up hours.
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  And we know it was, what, two and a half hours to get to San Diego
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  across the border within four hours from when he was picked up.
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  He was, he was found in Tijuana.
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  And that's the thing I picked
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  up by ice.
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  Yeah.
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  Taken away.
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  Not, and my, and my client, um, my friend was at the door downtown LA
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  Hey, I want to talk to my client.
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  Oh, they're saying, oh no, it's civil unrest out there.
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  We, we, we need to protect, like they're basically saying.
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  All that fighting outside, it makes it dangerous for us to unlock the door to
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  let you come in and talk to your client.
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  Oh, Kaban.
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  Yeah.
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  And so what he says is just for those people, if they do have that case,
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  there's actually appeals where they appeal that deportation and they
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  actually order their person is ordered back to, to have their case heard.
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  So, but yeah, it's um, I forgot what the question was, but um
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  Yeah, but it's due process.
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  Just explain for everybody, just.
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  As simple as you can, what is due process in layman's terms?
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  Um, due process, I like to say is you get to heard what, what evidence is heard
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  against you, what case is against you, and you have your right to defend yourself.
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  Whether it's presenting documents, testimony, like in a cri, I, I always,
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  I keep going back to criminal case 'cause somebody knows criminal,
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  they don't know immigration.
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  I just, I just talk about, like, say your example, you're fighting a. A murder case
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  or I was defending a, um, a robbery case.
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  And say for example, you're fighting your case, Hey, you know what?
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  We, we don't have the body-worn camera.
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  I had a case two years.
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  It, they were defending themselves for a year and a half.
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  They didn't have body-worn camera until I showed up and my partner, and we
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  actually found body-worn camera, which assisted in getting the case dismissed.
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  But, but due process.
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  Say for example, here's your charges.
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  Now defend yourself.
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  Well, let me gather the evidence.
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  Let me, let me have a hearing, whether it's criminal, you have a trial or you
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  have immigration, you have a hearing.
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  I. So what happens is you're allowed to have that hearing.
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  Then it's determined yes or no.
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  Then you gotta go or not, but a violation due process.
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  What's happened to these immigration people?
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  Just like criminals.
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  Say you're fighting your case, you're in court, you know, you know what we're,
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  you know we're, the case is closed.
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  We're taking you to state prison.
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  You're,
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  you're serving your sentence now, seven years in state prison.
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  But wait, I didn't, sorry.
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  We're you're, you're deported or you're serving your sentence.
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  That's how I kind of,
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  yeah, that's the violation of it.
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  And that's what like, you know, you just don't want somebody literally
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  put in prison without letting them.
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  Plead their case.
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  Right.
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  Well, imagine if they picked you up and they said, well, you, I mean,
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  you're a little lighter skinned.
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  'cause that's what they're doing.
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  They're going by the color.
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  Oh yeah.
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  I I call it WWB walking while brown.
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  That's why they're picking people up.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's what my defense was in that criminal case.
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  I was like, they were driving while Hispanic in la I had a
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  case in l in Beverly Hills.
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  I, well, he was driving while black.
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  Yeah.
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  And that, I actually said that to the judge.
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  Joe goes, you think that happens?
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  Oh yeah, yeah.
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  That happens.
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  It is like, yes.
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  And he, he actually scolded me saying, we're in California, we're different.
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  No, we're not different.
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  They're still there.
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  But the due process is like, for example, you're a citizen, right?
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  Imagine if they just picked you up and deported you, you and you.
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  They didn't ask you for your citizenship.
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  They didn't ask your id, they deported you.
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  That's the due process allows you to say, Hey, I'm a citizen.
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  Hey, I have a right to be here.
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  Or the worst is when people come for asylum.
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  There's people that if they go back to their country, they will get killed.
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  And that's why they're allowed to come.
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  There's people, they come properly, they're fighting their case, and
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  they have the right to address that case, address those issues.
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  What is your defense?
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  What are you accusing me of?
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  It's like kids, like if I'm accusing you of something, shouldn't
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  you be able to defend yourself?
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  And for PE, people coming here for political asylum.
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  They're, they should be able to hear their case before sending them back
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  where, you know, what will happen there?
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  They'll be dead.
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  Oh yeah.
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  And there's people that do it properly.
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  They come to the border, Hey, I'm not crossing your line.
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  I'm not crossing illegally, but my life is threatened back there.
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  And what the process is, you're supposed to bring 'em in, let 'em talk about
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  it, but now you're like, no, what?
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  We don't care.
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  Yeah.
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  Even if they've been here for years.
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  And I've seen some cases of that recently.
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  Um, so, and, and you know, some people say, well, you know.
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  Uh, there's, they, they can invoke a right from the 1790s, a case of
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  the, the, uh, the Alien, um, war Act.
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  No, it's not the, it's the, um, alien Criminal Act, and it's, they're saying,
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  well, because, you know, you can.
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  You could detain people and not have a reason, or not give due process.
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  And the Supreme Court, which is mostly conservative, says
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  no, that law does not apply.
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  It's only to be used during war time.
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  So if you're watching or listening and hear somebody say, well, there's this
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  law from the nine 1790s, it says that the, the administration could do it
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  because of the, the, the, the alien.
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  Um.
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  Wartime act or whatever it's called.
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  No, they can't.
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  They cannot.
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  It's the Supreme Court, which is mostly conservative, says, no, you cannot.
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  The constitution says, no, you cannot.
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  And that actually says you have to be in time of war to do that with,
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  there's a, with the person, you're deporting, there's a person deporting.
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  There's a a, a real threat out there.
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  Yes.
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  I'm sorry.
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  This guy's selling.
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  Um, an and fruit Yeah.
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  Is not the top threat.
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  I mean, that's my biggest peeve is.
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  Start at the top.
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  So, so let
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  me ask you this.
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  Do, are they, and the folks that you've been helping and representing or the
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  things you hear about through your network is, are, are there, are these
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  criminals that they're going after?
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  No, they're, they're people that, for example, he was talking about a case
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  where the guy was actually working in a garage on private property.
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  And it was a construct, it was a construction worker and
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  all they did was drag him off.
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  My question is, is how do you know that's a, how do you know it's a criminal when
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  you're picking 'em off by their skin?
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  They
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  don't, yeah, I saw a little video where the guy, the cop says, yeah,
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  you look like someone I'm looking for.
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  Can you gimme your id?
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  I,
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  so what do people do in that situation if somebody says that to you?
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  If, if, if, I would say, because my understanding is, unless there's a
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  alleged crime, you don't even have to give your identification to the officers.
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  But again, you know, you gotta be reasonable.
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  You gotta be reasonable.
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  You can, um, if you're stopped in your vehicle, you gotta give your ID
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  and your license, but you can say, I have the right to, I'm just invoking
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  my right to remain silent because I mean, simple as d UIs, anything you
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  say can and will be used against you.
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  I would just say be quiet.
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  What I'm trying to do is pass out cards like.
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  As I drive around, if I see people working construction, like, oh,
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  I'm, I'm, I have a residency.
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  They don't care.
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  They don't care.
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  And honestly, I, I'm, I may be ly profiling people when I'm giving
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  'em my car because I see 'em dark.
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  Oh, here hold my card.
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  I don't know.
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  Crim, I don't know all immigration, but I know criminal, and at least
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  on the back of my car, it says, you have the right to remain.
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  You have the right to remain in silence, invoke all these rights.
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  So, I'm sorry.
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  I, I, yeah.
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  And I would
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  tell everybody just, you know.
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  Film them.
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  Ask for your badge number, ask for your name.
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  And you know what I've seen effective being done is, you know, when they're
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  wearing masks and not identifying themselves, film it and have
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  somebody with you call the police and say, I'm here with somebody.
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  Pretending to be a police officer that's trying to take me, I need
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  help right away and film it all.
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  Because they're supposed to give that to you, right?
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  Aren't they supposed, yeah, they're supposed
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  to.
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  They're supposed to identify their, identify themselves with
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  their, the badge number or whatnot.
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  And honestly, I, I think some of these people were just coming from,
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  um, I remember back in, you see back when Arizona, they were trying to
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  like pick people off on their own.
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  'cause I, I reposted a clip a couple times.
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  Everybody, there was somebody from ICE that had cowboy hat on.
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  These are vigilantes.
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  Yeah.
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  I was like,
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  how did you get a cowboy hat?
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  Is that like, is that United States issued?
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  Like, yeah.
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  But yeah, the best thing is do not talk, ask, um, be in groups.
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  Don't go out by yourself.
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  Um, and how,
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  how about like, how.
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  People are afraid.
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  They're coming to their, their work.
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  What should they be doing?
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  What should the employers be doing?
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  What happens on private property?
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  Like what are people's rights?
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  Can they just go into your house?
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  No, they can't go into private property, which includes a business or your home.
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  With your home.
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  You just lock it.
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  Stay silent.
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  I say pretend they're like door, door salesman.
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  Don't answer the door.
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  If you see someone come to your house, don't even talk.
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  You.
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  They don't have a right.
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  They have to show you a warrant because like I say, with any,
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  like, even like police cases.
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  Officers if they want to stop you and they have a right, they're not gonna say,
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  sir, can I take that gun outta your hand?
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  No, they're gonna break down your door.
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  Take the gun outta your hand.
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  Anytime they ask is because they don't have the right.
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  So that's the the home.
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  Stay in your home.
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  Don't answer.
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  Um, just, just ignore them.
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  And as far as businesses, you have the right to protect that.
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  And I think there's a little post going on.
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  It's a little spell check on the sign, but employers have the right to post.
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  You cannot come to this property basically saying this is private property.
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  If you're here for these ex, these certain reasons, you're
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  not allowed on this property.
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  Unfortunately, like my friend there, they took him right outta the garage
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  when the guy was protecting himself.
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  But at least it helps your civil rights case.
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  Yeah, or your immigration case when you go counter to that.
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  But yes, private pro um, business have the private property.
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  It's the owners that need to put that sign up.
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  It's the owner.
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  And that's why I was talking about my caseworkers with the case management.
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  We need to talk to all our insurance providers, make sure they have signs up.
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  Are they protecting the clients that are going for that treatment?
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  Yeah.
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  And as you know for the, you know, we have a lot of fear
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  with people that we represent.
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  And you know, whether they're here illegally, they're still afraid because
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  they're like, am I gonna just show up and they're gonna use some excuse to revoke my
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  legal citizenship and take me somewhere.
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  And I've seen insurance companies weaponize this, literally tell lawyers
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  that their case isn't worth anything.
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  'cause they're not here legally.
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  And then they go tell ice.
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  Talk about abusive process.
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  Yes, that's happening.
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  Oh my God.
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  Yes.
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  Well talk about you're gonna lose business if, I mean, I don't,
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  and and that's the whole thing that started from the beginning.
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  A lot of attorneys are quiet on this.
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  Is it, are they, I I was gonna post, is there some Illuminati that I don't
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  not know about that I should not be saying things or, but it goes to the
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  point of, yeah, you, you gotta, I think it has to build relationship
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  with those insurance companies.
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  Are you gonna, are you gonna report deport people because Yeah,
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  unfortunately they're not protected.
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  I. You know?
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  Yeah.
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  Like, like they're protected with attorney-client privilege.
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  Yeah.
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  It's abuse of process.
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  Anytime they use things in litigation to leverage it's abuse of process,
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  they'd have rights against them.
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  But like, here's the, the other thing that I'll say is, you know, you see
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  during these times, who are the lawyers that really care about the community
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  they represent and the other ones that only care about the cash in their pocket?
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  You can see at these times who those folks are.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, 'cause where since I've started criminal offense, 80 to
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  90% of my clients speak Spanish.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And when I'm, when I talked to 'em, I initially, I thought
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  I was offending people.
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  I was like, are you documenting?
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  What's your status?
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  And I don't want them to worry like, oh, is he gonna judge me?
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  'cause I'm not a citizen?
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  I go, no, it depends, depends on your case.
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  But like you're saying, a lot of people are saying is you're,
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  you're, you're making money.
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  All these people on their clients, either civil or criminal, and
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  now you're just shining them.
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  Now you're like, oh.
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  Like only when the money counts.
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  Only
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  when it counts.
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  But as
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  soon as your check's cashed, are you locking the door?
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  No, you're then, that's why I keep saying it.
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  And like I start, I'm starting to do more in Spanish because t like
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  Instagram, I don't know how the algorithm does, it doesn't hit a lot of
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  people, but I notice TikTok hits a lot.
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  So when you see me post in Spanish, 90% of the people I know that
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  follow me, they speak English.
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  Right?
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  But what I'm doing is I'm copy and pasting TikTok because,
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  um, you just get random people.
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  I've getting random, I've getting random cases from people that found
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  me on TikTok, but now I'm trying to use that randomness to spread.
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  I love it because, yeah, you can't benefit from a Com community without.
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  Protecting them.
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  Really care.
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  And that's what like, you know what I've been, so I don't do criminal defense.
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  I do not do immigration.
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  So what we did with our quickly, I created an AI voice intake that speaks every
• 15:29
  language that speaks Spanish, that will then route it to the lawyers that can help
• 15:33
  you, like do what you can as veer a lawyer out there and give people the ability to.
• 15:39
  To be heard, to talk to somebody very quickly and have folks like
• 15:43
  you quickly jump in and look.
• 15:45
  I mean, this is, it's not easy work.
• 15:47
  I mean, you've gotta be at the courthouse constantly these days.
• 15:49
  Yeah, well if, well I honestly, like 90% of my case is RPI, but for the
• 15:53
  criminal cases, I mostly, they're mostly been referral, but, but yeah, if even
• 15:59
  though I'm not an immigration attorney, I'd rather give you this's the thing.
• 16:02
  I'd rather give you some advice than you out there, because what
• 16:05
  if I'm the only attorney, you know?
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  And you'll attorney follow.
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  I'd rather you say, Hey, due process.
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  If you call, I know an attorney, I know immigration attorney.
• 16:13
  Put my whole, I'll refer out, but I didn't know about, I, I kind of hear how
• 16:16
  you refer out or what, but yeah, it's,
• 16:19
  it's automatically routed.
• 16:20
  So like on attorney share, there's lawyers that are immigration criminal.
• 16:25
  You could pick all your practice areas and then.
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  When they call, for instance, my firm that has the voice AI intake, it knows
• 16:30
  it's not something I specialize in.
• 16:32
  It'll post it out to those communities of lawyers.
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  So whoever's available can say, yes, I can accept this case.
• 16:37
  You can then route the client to them to help as fast as you can.
• 16:41
  Oh, I thought that was only like PI referrals.
• 16:42
  I didn't know.
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  That's all.
• 16:44
  That's great.
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  Criminal immigration.
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  Business litigation, mass tools.
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  But the
• 16:48
  main thing I'm trying to do, and I notice people get all fight, fight fights.
• 16:52
  Like my thing is, is like the people on the other side, there's some
• 16:55
  people that do have hearts, right?
• 16:56
  Yeah.
• 16:56
  And they're, they don't know what, someone actually reached out to me on Facebook is
• 16:59
  like, I thought the me, I thought that's all just media people, kids getting taken
• 17:02
  away from their parents, this, this, this, and, and then she didn't understand.
• 17:05
  I explained to her what due process was just.
• 17:07
  Oh, thank you for educating me.
• 17:08
  So I'm trying to stay in that middle ground because you
• 17:11
  don't want to be this fighter.
• 17:12
  You don't wanna be that person that say, see, that's in California.
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  And
• 17:15
  yeah,
• 17:16
  I'm trying to put the message out there.
• 17:18
  You're we're protecting like Father's Day.
• 17:19
  I was like, well, I was just thinking, I was talking to my wife.
• 17:21
  I go, imagine you're, we're out there working for your kids.
• 17:24
  You get taken away and your kids are out there not being supportive.
• 17:28
  How can a human being that that's a dad.
• 17:32
  No, let let other dads be taken away from their kids.
• 17:35
  So I'm trying to be soft where they'll listen.
• 17:38
  But not angry isn't if,
• 17:39
  if there's no criminal record, by the way, isn't It isn't.
• 17:41
  If you are undocumented, it's a civil,
• 17:44
  that's my understanding.
• 17:45
  Yeah.
• 17:46
  It's not even like
• 17:46
  a cri, it's a civil thing.
• 17:47
  So if they're, if you don't have a criminal history and you pick
• 17:51
  them up, they're undocumented and they have a family, why can't you
• 17:55
  just put an ankle monitor on them and let them have due process?
• 17:58
  Like, is that so hard?
• 18:00
  No, it ankle monitoring will go off.
• 18:02
  I mean, 'cause I do criminal defense.
• 18:03
  We do that all the time for DUI cases, yes, you'll know where that person's at.
• 18:07
  You'll know when they take off and you're, and your phone, like
• 18:10
  you're saying, the lease means.
• 18:11
  That's kind of like when you're on a criminal case and you wanna go on
• 18:14
  bail, what's the lease means necessary?
• 18:16
  Do I have to have this guy in jail or can I put him on?
• 18:19
  Um, can I, it's a, it should be the same thing as ba as a bail.
• 18:22
  You're saying, well, this person has a criminal history and
• 18:25
  he's violent and he can repeat.
• 18:27
  He's staying in jail versus, yeah, he stay in jail.
• 18:28
  This person has no record, but we still wanna know where we're at.
• 18:31
  Monitory.
• 18:32
  That's like, that should what it, that's what it should be.
• 18:33
  I mean, that's
• 18:33
  what it should be.
• 18:34
  All right.
• 18:34
  I mean.
• 18:35
  Y thank you for coming on the show.
• 18:36
  I think we're gonna have to be a repeat thing 'cause I don't think this is gonna
• 18:39
  go away anytime soon, but reach out.
• 18:41
  Uh, what's your, what's your handles on both of the things
• 18:44
  I've mapped over?
• 18:45
  It's Attorney Hall TikTok, Instagram, and I believe it's on Facebook.
• 18:48
  Yes.
• 18:48
  Attorney Halla.
• 18:49
  H-A-L-L-A-D.
• 18:50
  So reach
• 18:51
  out, dm. He does respond.
• 18:52
  It helps educate and I know a lot of people are just looking
• 18:54
  for answers and what they can do.
• 18:56
  Just have your lawyer, your team, on speed, dial record,
• 18:59
  everything that you can.
• 19:01
  Be vocal for your rights and record.
• 19:04
  Yeah.
• 19:05
  And don't say anything that you don't have to.
• 19:06
  You don't have to say shit.
• 19:07
  Yes.
• 19:08
  And they will trick you.
• 19:10
  They can lie to you.
• 19:12
  They will tell you your kids are gonna take it away.
• 19:14
  They will tell you if you go, your kids are gonna take it away,
• 19:17
  or we'll take your possessions.
• 19:19
  Or, oh, if you sign this, you'll get this.
• 19:21
  Don't sign one document unless you're there with an attorney.
• 19:25
  Wow.
• 19:26
  Well, Lee Paul, thanks for coming on.
• 19:27
  Thanks for coming on this episode of the Justice Team Podcast
• 19:29
  on the Justice Team Network.
• 19:30
  Thank you for fighting the good fight.
• 19:32
  Thank you for inviting me.
• 19:33
  I appreciate it.
• 19:33
  Thank you for watching or listening.