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Episode 16: No King's Day · The Social Evolution Podcast

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey everyone welcome to social evolution podcast is Patrick Barney.
• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm one of the hosts with me is the other host Curtis Frazier.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Today we're going to talk about the recent anti-Trump protest called No King's Day, which just happened to coincide with the Donald Trump's birthday parade.
• 0:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would like to say that when I saw the military parade I thought it was kind of sad that nobody came because you know it was almost as if no I know but like it's really as if Trump ruined the army's parade because it wasn't supposed to be about Trump at all you know it's supposed to be about the army yeah yeah well the army was two hundred fifty years old you know from like I guess the start of the revolution
• 0:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: until now and we were kind of like you know supposed to be honoring that so you know I saw it as not necessarily the current army but you know the army that was you know the army that was the revolution and the war of eighteen twelve and one the civil war and not necessarily the army that spent you know most of the eighteen hundred to kill in the Native Americans but sure
• 1:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, just the the positive sides and I don't know.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought I was sad that nobody seemed to care because they were all like you know what Trump and okay fucking military.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a North Korea.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't do fucking birthday military parades.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So about the protest, I don't necessarily like to talk about, you know, current events or, you know, American events or whatever, but it really seems like a step in the direction of social evolution to have a protest based, you know, on the idea that we don't have wealthy ruling assholes that tell us exactly what to do and who gets to live here.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't just make up your own fucking rules.
• 1:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: No kings.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I really liked that it was for the most part like everyone that I saw, and there were some college kids.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I did see some people actually brought their kids, but I want to have one in date and by the way.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I saw a lot of people that were older than me, by like, you know, at least half a decade.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I looked at the stage and it was almost all gray hairs.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: On the stage taking their talks, you know, we all went into the streets and started moving.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was a woman with a microphone who, you know, was probably fifty.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I thought that was, you're almost fifty.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not even close to almost fifty.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're class identifies twenty-six.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're closer to forty than fifty.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're definitely closer to fifty than twenty.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: the protests were beautiful brought tear to my eye you know the unity it was great and again what I liked is that it was a lot of the older crowd so instead of you know the police coming in thinking they're going to intimidate a bunch of you know nineteen-year-old college kids or you know people who barely speak English instead they've got somebody who's probably like you know forty-eight years old
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: taking a picture or a video asking him why what this truck is and why it doesn't have a license plate because they decided to bring this big it looked like a if I had to describe it it'd be like a mad mags ice cream truck you know like it's painted flat black
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: had a, like, a big bumper that was just, you know, steel attached to the front, you know, like bars on the windows, no license plate, like the guy said, like it was there to intimidate.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But these people weren't intimidated.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, because like they're obviously like, you know, well off middle class, you know, white people looking for trouble.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: They want a reason because they called their lawyer before they came out here.
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and as soon as they get a chance to text Daniel, you sit and, you know what I mean?
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I thought it was nice.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think protests are good.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I, uh, unfortunately, I was working for this protest.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have attended, uh, since since, since, twenty-twenty in the Black Lives Matter protests, I've attended protests when I can.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I think they're a good way to express public outrage, express solidarity with, with oppressed groups and marginalized people.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it lets you know that even if the media doesn't come out and say so, other people think like you do.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And other people are fed up with this shit and other people.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: The population of America, for example, don't agree with what the fuck's going on.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're embarrassed to be here.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely.
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's definitely, we're in scary times.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've read about certain history researchers evacuating the country because this is how fascism starts, you know, like a strong man takes power and oh no, I get it.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I talked about it even too.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought, well, you know, I fucking man, like, I would love to stay here and fight the good fight, but... I don't know, sometimes just realize it's not a high enough level to kill this boss, and we're gonna have to come back later.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not in a position to leave myself, like, at least not.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's... It's like I sell everything you own and get the fuck out of here, you know, like...
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess we could do that, but I'd have to convince my wife that it's time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Protect the children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Protect the children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Get them out of this possible war zone.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, where's there not going to be a war zone though?
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was the problem.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: He kind of just got a fond and most peaceful place and hope for the best, because you know, they're the next target.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: The river people are being oppressed and treated like dog shit isn't the next fucking target.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's pretty scary times.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: No more protests gain hold.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think a lot of people's hope to weather the next three and a half years until Trump leaves office.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're declares himself king or declares himself.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or declares himself.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're all regret not selling our shit and leaving it.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, exactly.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to be in this fucking war zone, right?
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing of it is you can't, you don't know what which one's gonna happen.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're pretty sure you know though.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You just don't want to say it out loud.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's because they don't, you know, man, I'm this fucking doing it.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure as his term winds down, Trump will talk more and more about ways to stay president, you know.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: He is seventy nine so he could conceivably die in the next three years as his presidency winds down more and more rhetoric will be devoted to making it seem like he could stay present for for some amount of time.
• 6:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there will be any legal way.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he stays present.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: That hasn't stopped here from doing things so far.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: The law is not at all going to stop.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And those are just words on paper.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, shit to trouble.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It does seem like the law feels just like words on paper, given that people have said this in that to him.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, he's been convicted of thirty four felonies.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Most people that have thirty four counts of felonies, like are convicted of thirty four felonies.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't spend a single day in jail.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's true.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Most people spend at least a day or two in jail.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, next to Trump, I wonder what the next lowest people are next lowest number of people to spend time in prison that are convicted of felonies.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the don't include people who commit suicide on the way in.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: The felonies that he was convicted of in most cases probably would just come with a hefty fine, actually.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, all right, there we go.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: His sentence was suspended by the judge.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he doesn't have any money anyway, right?
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, not money for fines.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Born out making his that like nothing happened to him when he had when he was convicted of when he found guilty of felonies judges
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: often have said you can't do this he can't do that and he does it anyway and he does it anyway yeah I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know unless a judge is going to be like yeah if you don't do this we're going to send people to arrest you or something like that don't think they're allowed to arrest them and maybe they're not you know we know the secret service would come in and protect them right I don't know if a sitting president can be arrested I don't think he could be arrested period right ever and like I have doubt
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: that he can be held accountable for anything.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's not, he's not going to be held accountable.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's never.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's that.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He does ridiculous.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's very primitive of us to a lot of someone to have such atrocities.
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, no, that would be like if I really bad leader, like, you know, Mussolini, for example, instead of being stripped and gutted to town square, was just allowed to keep it.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for the next, you know, how are we, how are we fucking like this?
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, unfortunately, the difference between Mussolini and Trump is that Mussolini was held accountable eventually.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like eventually he got, he was held accountable.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He got hanged up side dead.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're much better than that.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to hold Trump accountable.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to let him piss on everybody's fun.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, until he's done pissing on cake.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, so his rhetoric will ramp up as his term lines down.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that if he refused to step down or interfered or interfered with the election, or maybe he would, maybe he, the movie would choose his, you know, declaring martial law on suspending the elections.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's what he would do.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that seems like something he would do.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see the already put the National Guard, the Marines down in California, on the way.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he can do that unilaterally.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if like he can declare martial law and suspend the elections forever.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who would stop him?
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Congress can't stop him.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would I would think that.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: The course can't stop him.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Congress can't stop him.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: What did you listen?
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: His echo chamber is going to stop on it.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that could stop him conceivably is enough public outcry, basically.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that the public at cry would have to be, would have to be not nonviolent.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would take the motarium police to be like, you know, we're not going to stand here and let you imprison our families and essentially us because you're a spoiled fucking five-year-old who's never been punished for anything ever.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like when obviously you should have been dragged into the living room during those family gatherings and had to live in shit beat out of your front of everybody.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they understand that when you act like that, you pay a fucking consequence.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's had to deal with consequences.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's never had a consequence at him.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the rest of his generation got the shit beat out of him for active like that.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe in some cases it was more.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll just have to wait and see what happens or the so have more protests, you know.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to have more protests and they're going to have to be.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just need to be enough people that they don't want to fuck with.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, a hundred thousand people go out and every major city, then they'll know that like pretty much the whole city took the day off to come out here and say fuck you.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You better not.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you don't have a prison big enough for all of them.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: We will do it.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We will have to, I think that the, the, the protest will have to take on the character of the LA protests in that they were not nonviolent.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: They included rioting.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Things like that where you burn cop cars and you burn property and shit.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's that will definitely have to occur.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the champion of the civil rights movement is largely considered to be Martin Luther King.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I respect Martin Luther King a great deal.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said a lot of great great things.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I consider a mature American hero.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: That said, the civil rights movement was not nonviolent.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was just a nonviolent leader within the civil rights movement.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are plenty of riots.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, how about we start out with a large group non-violent and say if you don't do what we want, we're gonna get violent.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is so, you know, we're serious.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, don't play us.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: The state doesn't respond until you go from nonviolence to violence.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's talk about some violence now.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a change to topic.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about the right winger who decided to kill a couple of Democrats up in Minnesota, right?
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And where that's going so far.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've caught them.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They did catch him.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I assume he's going to be charged with a whole bunch from everybody.
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see why he wouldn't be.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's all hope the Trump doesn't give him a pardon and make him his personal sniper.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's pardoned a bunch of January six protesters.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised that guy wasn't already named as a January his arrest or he's old enough.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't dumb enough.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: He
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: or devoted enough.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure all of the January six protesters he pump Trump pardoned, but I, you know, the January six protests did lead to one death of a, I think it was either a security guard or a police officer.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not that I care about police officers.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's still a case I care.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's still a death.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Trump is like, well, yeah, they killed this police officer, but they supported me.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So whatever, not police officer wasn't a real American because he was trying to keep the rule of law.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was like, yeah, we should pardon this guy who killed.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's already, was not the pardoned people who committed crimes for him.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's already done that.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So there's this guy did.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: If everybody would go out and kill the Democrat for him, then there wouldn't be any Democrats like.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then he did, then he could say, on the leader in King of America, and no one would go in and stop him because other Republicans suck his day.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: All the, all the current Republicans are, are on board with, with Trump.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he p takes over America.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: They'll get a little, a little, a little parcel of money.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, they'll get to be a Duke.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be the king.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They'll all be Duke's.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: America is rapidly becoming a shit-hole country, rapidly becoming like, you know, you have a chance to keep it from happening right now, but everybody you can tell that this is what's going down is apparently just getting the fuck out because they can also tell that it's too late.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It might be too late.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that is still hopeful, there's still reason for hope, is that
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unlike other fascist places, Trump's main ideas are actually not popular.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He thought his unpopular as Biden was at his lowest right now as far as I know, but there are plenty of people who do not like Trump.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's not the case where we see other forms of fascist.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: In the history books, other forms of fascism have been popular.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, if you're talking about Nazi Germany,
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: the Nazis were popular until the end when they weren't, but they were popular like general person supported them.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where is the average American doesn't actually support Trump?
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we take, you know, say something like sixty percent of people say he don't like him or or fifty five.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I believe that a lot of people that voters form are unhappy with what he's doing.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I read a lot of those.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those have been funny, you know?
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I read about a one guy who I don't know.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a business man.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He like sells peanuts or something.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: He sells some kind of food product like maybe oranges.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really matter what he sells, but he's like, yeah, not with all these tariffs I can't afford to stay in business.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I regret my vote for Trump.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can't.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can't.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he loves you.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He loves small business.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you voted for him.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that means that you're in the call.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to get a magic now.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it really is like, I don't even.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So protest, good stuff.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: If we need to have more, we'll have more.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: We will.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we will need to have more and we will.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like the demographic.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the demographic made it even stronger.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, because let you know that like everybody's fucking pissed.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, hopefully you have enjoyed this episode where we discussed the reason protests and we hope to see more until next time.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Peace out.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, revolve.