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- 0:24Do you feel like your children are independent? Does their independence frighten you, perhaps?
- 0:31Today we're going to talk about building independence in children,
- 0:34a topic that touches every stage of childhood, from toddlers learning to try
- 0:37new things to teens figuring out who they are and where they fit in the world.
- 0:43Welcome to Talking FACS where we share information you can use to strengthen
- 0:46your family, your community, and our state.
- 0:49I'm your host, Mindy McCulley, Extension Specialist for Instructional Support
- 0:54with Family and Consumer Sciences at the University of Kentucky.
- 0:58My guest today is Dr. David Wiesenhorn, Extension Specialist for Parenting and
- 1:03Child Development. Welcome, David.
- 1:05Thank you, Mindy. So, independence, it's what we're hoping to get our children
- 1:11ready for, but there are sometimes little challenges along the way,
- 1:17when you start to feel that independence, right? Yeah.
- 1:22Mindy, what's funny about that, I think it's one of the most important roles
- 1:25that parents have is to help their child become independent.
- 1:29And funny, in this role, I get to talk to a lot of parents.
- 1:33And one of the things I find is not all parents, if I have to be honest,
- 1:38I'm going to say, moms, I'm going to lean on you a little bit.
- 1:41Most moms don't really want their children to become all that independent. And it's.
- 1:48I understand why. And, and I would tease, I would say my wife is probably the
- 1:54biggest person that I know that does this because I see her all the time and
- 1:58it becomes and can become a struggle in,
- 2:01the heartfelt behind doing things for children.
- 2:05You know, one of the things I say, I'm going to back up a minute.
- 2:07One of the, one of the common statements that I make in my parenting classes
- 2:12is don't do for a child what a child can do for themselves.
- 2:16And anytime you step in and do that, you reduce their progress
- 2:22in gaining independence and oftentimes can stifle an initiation the idea that
- 2:28they would initiate doing something and so
- 2:31when i think about this one of the things i want to do is give parents the opportunity
- 2:36to start that building that independence as early as possible,
- 2:42helping them walk up a step i don't letting them navigate walking over something
- 2:46tying their own shoes, getting their shirt over their head, all the way to driving
- 2:51a vehicle on their own and, you know.
- 2:54Making decisions in the real world.
- 2:55So, I mean, all the things that we want our children to become,
- 3:01I think, begins as early as we allow it to begin.
- 3:04And so, I think starting early and to give opportunities to gain independence is a key piece to that.
- 3:12I do love that. And I remember, you know, when children transition from the
- 3:16point of me having to dress them to them dressing themselves,
- 3:20I had to give up a little bit. And,
- 3:24recognize that maybe they weren't going to choose to wear what I would have chosen for them to wear.
- 3:31And so we might have had a toddler running around, you know,
- 3:34in a purple shirt with orange shorts.
- 3:37Oh, fantastic. I mean, but if he did it himself, then that was a win, right?
- 3:41Exactly, exactly. So we have to realize that sometimes allowing independence
- 3:47means giving up something on our end as parents. Oh, I like that a lot.
- 3:51And you're absolutely right.
- 3:53So that becomes part of it. I think the first step is, like I said, start small.
- 3:58Just start with the small things. Allow those opportunities, right?
- 4:02And this is perfect. What you just said, if my children are toddlers,
- 4:07putting out two different shirts and two different pairs of pants or whatever
- 4:10and saying, you get to select today and they put those on and they can try and
- 4:14put it on and maybe it comes out backwards and inside out. But they did it themselves.
- 4:20But that's it, right? They gave it a shot. So starting small,
- 4:24even like I said, even with toddlers, you know, starting small.
- 4:27And then as they become more and more capable, then we up the ante.
- 4:31Because it's hard. If you haven't done it when they're young,
- 4:35it's really hard to give up when they get a little older. Well,
- 4:39there becomes an expectation.
- 4:41Exactly. So I think sometimes offering choices is critical.
- 4:46And as we begin to offer choices, that is going to lead them to being able to
- 4:52feel confident in their own decision-making skills.
- 4:55And that's why we want to do that. That's why we want to put a couple things
- 4:58out and then allow them to do that. Because as they become more independent,
- 5:03they grow in confidence.
- 5:05They learn responsibility. They develop problem-solving skills.
- 5:10And that is what we're after.
- 5:12We want them to be proud of their abilities. We want them to feel self-confident,
- 5:17in their abilities to solve problems. And so beginning with this early in life,
- 5:22we can do that. So offering choices. Start small. Offer choices.
- 5:26And then teach and step back. And that's what I heard you say,
- 5:29Mindy, is that, well, I started allowing them to take their own thing or select
- 5:34their own clothes. And I didn't really like the outcome of that.
- 5:37A lot of times we say, well, I
- 5:39let my child, I would have let him tie his shoes, but we didn't have time.
- 5:44Exactly. Right. Because one of the things that we know is that when we teach
- 5:48and we step back, that it's going to take a lot longer.
- 5:51Yes. And it's probably going to be a messy situation.
- 5:57Right. They may not be as pretty as you expect.
- 6:01There's going to be some tears. There's going to be some frustration.
- 6:04And I'll share, for instance, so while I know I started with toddlers,
- 6:09my children are no longer toddlers. I've got two teenagers.
- 6:12Teenagers my daughter my first born is very quick to help me do most things,
- 6:18and so she wants to learn actively my son less likely the second born let less likely,
- 6:25to offer his help but willing when I ask him he's been a really good helper
- 6:30but I have to kind of prod a little bit more one of the things I was doing with
- 6:34them was we were building a fence
- 6:37and I told him he's 13 and I told him I I said, Elijah, I need you to take this section down,
- 6:44and then I'm going to work to reframe the gate, and we'll get it up together.
- 6:49And so he started working, and he kept coming back, Dad, I don't know how to
- 6:51do this. Dad, I don't know how to do this.
- 6:53And I had to stop, and I said, Elijah, I need you.
- 6:58To do the work that I've asked you to solve the problem, to figure it out.
- 7:02Because if I'm doing all the work, you're not helping me.
- 7:06I need, and I was saying it just like that, very clear, very calm.
- 7:11I wanted him to understand, and he felt frustrated by that. And I said,
- 7:14man, do me a favor. You won't mess it up. I'm asking you to tear it down.
- 7:18So go give it a go. And he's figuring out, and I would look over every once
- 7:23in a while, and I might say, hey, try this.
- 7:26Instead of holding it that way try spinning it around and pulling on it instead
- 7:30of pushing on and now all of a sudden things were starting to click for him and so.
- 7:35The third part of that or the fourth part you teach him step back you watch
- 7:38a little bit and then when you see that frustration,
- 7:42you encourage some problem solving what do you think what do you think would
- 7:45happen if you turned it around and pull instead of push you know and then you
- 7:49watch him do that and all of a sudden the light pops on, right?
- 7:52And so there's a little more independence.
- 7:55And then as we finished, he began to understand.
- 8:00And it was a really good process because he could come back to me and say,
- 8:04Dad, look, I did this. This is what I did. And so in that process,
- 8:08I was beginning to see his confidence build.
- 8:10I could see his confidence and self-esteem was growing at that point.
- 8:16Well, and if you would have stepped in at the beginning and said,
- 8:18you know what, but I'll just do it.
- 8:20He would never have had the opportunity to learn and grow. And the next time
- 8:25it needed to be done, you would be doing it again.
- 8:29There's an old proverb that says, if you want to go fast, go alone.
- 8:33Exactly. Yeah, if you want to go far, go together.
- 8:36I think that fits here when we think about parenting and this need to build
- 8:41a child's independence.
- 8:43Building independence is definitely going slower because you will move much
- 8:47faster if you do it all yourself, but that child will not come along.
- 8:51You will not be together in that. And our point as parents and caretakers is
- 8:57to launch our children, to make them independent. And the only way in which
- 9:01we do that is by providing more opportunities.
- 9:04And some of that is creating those routines, which is my fifth point of creating
- 9:10routines so that children get the regular opportunity to engage in independence.
- 9:17And that can be a routine of a lot of things.
- 9:20Yeah. And, you know, as they get older, you get to watch how that blooming happens
- 9:25and how they have figured out so many things on their own that they no longer
- 9:28come to you and say, hey, I can't do this.
- 9:31And I want you to do it for me.
- 9:33Mindy, I love that because I think I'm going to go back to where I started and
- 9:38not hurting this idea, but moms, a lot of times, I think that's the fear, right?
- 9:43That can kind of come in is that the more independent my child is,
- 9:47the less I'll see my child or the less they'll need of me, which then equates
- 9:52to the less they'll be around or come around and that I won't be able to do this forever.
- 9:57So I'm going to do it now while they're still here. Exactly.
- 10:01And I hear the heart of that, of that. I love my child. I want my child.
- 10:07I want to help my child as much as possible.
- 10:09What I want to encourage parents to hear is that helping your child be independent is helping your child.
- 10:15The more independent they become, while they can and will be able to operate
- 10:20independent of you, doesn't mean they're going to leave you.
- 10:24The reality is, is I feel like it's more endearing and connects more to you
- 10:29because you've taught them those skills.
- 10:32Like most of us, we want to come back and share, like, look what I've done.
- 10:36How many times did our child as a young age growing up, did you hear,
- 10:40hey, mom, look at this, or hey, dad, look at this. Dad, watch this.
- 10:44Dad, watch me do this. Mom, watch me do this. The reality is,
- 10:47is they want us to see them be independent.
- 10:49And so by teaching them that skill, I don't think it's that they're going to
- 10:53leave, but rather they'll come back and showcase maybe more for you and show us how to do that.
- 11:00Well, and I have heard young parents say, so I'm a helicopter mom, sue me.
- 11:06And I'm like, oh, we're not going to sue you, but your child is not going to
- 11:11benefit if you're a helicopter mom. At all.
- 11:15And it's terrible. It really creates a lot of anxiety for children too when
- 11:21you don't build those skills and then put them in spaces where they have to
- 11:24make decisions, where they have to problem solve, and they don't have those skills.
- 11:28It can be very overwhelming and anxiety-driven.
- 11:33Driven, I think, moments. If you think of avoiding the meltdown when they're
- 11:38small is the goal, you should wait until you get the meltdown when they're big and they can't.
- 11:45Yeah. There's nothing cute about an adult breakdown, right? There's something
- 11:49kind of cute about a two-year-old.
- 11:51There's like, oh, it's kind of cute. There's nothing cute about a 40-year-old
- 11:54or a 30-year-old melting down.
- 11:57Or a 20-year-old for that matter. So making sure that our children have that
- 12:01capacity and ability to do those things, which builds that confidence and self-esteem.
- 12:07And the last thing I would say is just don't, don't forget to praise your child.
- 12:11Don't praise the outcome, praise the effort.
- 12:14You know, one of the things I'm going to go back to that building fence.
- 12:18We built that fence together and we had to build it and rip it down three,
- 12:22three times because you start at one end and you start building and you're like,
- 12:27oh, that doesn't look good.
- 12:28And my son said, Dad, you know, if we got it right the first time,
- 12:31it would have taken us half the time it took us today.
- 12:35And I said, yeah, but that's rarely the case. We rarely get it right the first
- 12:39time. And knowing that my expectation wasn't to have it right the first time,
- 12:45but to learn how to do it, that can really help us.
- 12:49Telling him later that day, I said, Elijah, I love working with you,
- 12:54man. I really enjoyed working with you today.
- 12:57It had nothing to do with the outcome of what we did, but it was the time spent
- 13:01together. I loved watching light bulbs come on. I liked watching him work with his hands.
- 13:07I liked seeing him learn a new skill.
- 13:10And we talked the whole time and laughed a couple of times. And,
- 13:14you know, it was a really good time spent together.
- 13:20And I think that's what those opportunities are. When we can find opportunities
- 13:23for our children to gain independence, it can be rich. Not only just seeing
- 13:28them blossom, like you said, and being independent, but it's time well spent together.
- 13:34Like we're problem solving together. He's seeing that when he has a problem,
- 13:39here's some real physical memories that he can then go back to and say,
- 13:43hey, dad helped me with all those problems or mom helped me figure these things out.
- 13:47And so that becomes the touch point that I think they're going to come back
- 13:52to us, even when they're independent, to circle back and say,
- 13:55hey, what do you think about this idea? Or what do you think about this opportunity that I have?
- 14:01Because they care about how we took care of them early on.
- 14:06Well, and I can tell you as a mother of adult children, there's nothing more
- 14:10rewarding than having one of your children come and say, I did this because I learned it from you.
- 14:17Godspeed. So, you know, you're passing on those skills of parenting to your
- 14:22children before they ever know that they need it. Yeah.
- 14:27And I think a lot of times we worry about the safety of our child.
- 14:31So thinking about when they're young and why we might do things and not allow them to do them.
- 14:36We worry about their safety and we want things done right. I know I was that parent.
- 14:43That really wanted things done well and done right. And that oftentimes kept
- 14:48me from asking for the involvement of my children in those activities.
- 14:53And that's normal. And it's normal to want to step in.
- 14:57But I want to encourage all of you that are listening that doing too much for
- 15:02our children can definitely limit their growth.
- 15:06And having independence takes time. It takes practice. And it takes patience.
- 15:13Definitely. So hopefully you'll begin to offer more opportunities and you'll
- 15:18find that opportunity to be patient and watch your children as they really do
- 15:23become amazing individuals.
- 15:26I have nothing to say, but yes.
- 15:31David, I appreciate your time with me today. I know that this conversation is
- 15:36going to benefit lots and lots of parents as they listen to your wise guidance.
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