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ITB: What Will It Take For The Eagles Offense To Be "Super?" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Everybody?
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  Speaker 1: It's Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan here and we are
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  Speaker 1: going to start a podcast series that we did last year.
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  Speaker 3: We might have even done it the year before.
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  Speaker 1: I really like this concept, Adam that we do, which
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  Speaker 1: is what's it going to take for the Eagles to
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  Speaker 1: get back to the Super Bowl? And the reason we
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  Speaker 1: can do this podcast over the last few years is
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  Speaker 1: because the Eagles consistently are in the playoffs. They're consistently
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  Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the NFL from a
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  Speaker 1: roster standpoint, right, It's not like if three of six
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  Speaker 1: years they were last place or not even like the rebuilding,
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Be able to do this.
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  Speaker 1: But each year the Eagles expect to be in the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl conversation, and this year their roster is good
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  Speaker 1: enough to.
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  Speaker 3: Be in it. In it may not be the number
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  Speaker 3: one team going into.
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  Speaker 1: It, but good enough, and we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: what it's going to take for that to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is different from depth charts or team needs.
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  Speaker 2: This is really to win a Super Bowl. What's going
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  Speaker 2: to have to happen. It's not just players, it's coaches,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about some coaches, particularly the head coach,
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  Speaker 2: who's got to do a better job than last season.
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  Speaker 2: We saw what happened in twenty three. When you don't
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  Speaker 2: do a good enough job, you don't go anywhere. Despite
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  Speaker 2: that great run, they crashed on both sides of football.
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  Speaker 2: But Siriani is one of the best head coaches in
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  Speaker 2: the league, there's no question, But he could do a
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  Speaker 2: better job. We'll get into what we're headed there, and
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  Speaker 2: then the front office has has their challenges too, which
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about a lot of the stuff we've never
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  Speaker 2: talked about before. So this is good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be great to get inside it. So again,
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  Speaker 1: this one will start off offensively. What will it take
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  Speaker 1: for this team, which has really struggled at times offensively
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  Speaker 1: over the last few years, especially in the pass offense,
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  Speaker 1: now to be good enough so that the team overall
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  Speaker 1: can get back to the Super Bowl. And Adam, you
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  Speaker 1: and I both agree it's got to start with the
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  Speaker 1: run game again. It was a loss art last year
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  Speaker 1: for them. It was like taking their superpower away. Teams
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  Speaker 1: found the kryptonite, whether it was offensive line health or
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  Speaker 1: the way defenses were even defending some of their run schemes.
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  Speaker 1: What it did was lead to a total implosion. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles led the NFL in three and
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  Speaker 1: outs by leave some bounds over whoever was the second worst.
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  Speaker 1: And then obviously it led to it not just a
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  Speaker 1: firing of a play caller, but then a complete and
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  Speaker 1: total changing of an offensive scheme that is built on
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  Speaker 1: running the ball and play action off of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is where look, Sirianni and the coaches
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  Speaker 2: don't control the health of the offensive line. But if
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  Speaker 2: they're healthy enough, we'll start to learn a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of that in training camp. You're not totally, but you'll
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  Speaker 2: get some sort of a picture of how you are healthwise.
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  Speaker 2: But you'll learn the rest of it during the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: But if they're relatively healthy or healthy or obviously have
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  Speaker 2: to be healthier than last season, how could they not be,
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be better. They're going to be better now.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously they have a new offensive line coach. You mentioned
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  Speaker 2: the scheme change, you play caller, change your first time
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  Speaker 2: play calling Sean Mannion, and Sirianni's got to do a
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  Speaker 2: better job of coaching his coaches. Like last season was
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  Speaker 2: not good, you could blame petula all you want, Well,
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  Speaker 2: guess who hired him. They head coached it. It was
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  Speaker 2: his call, right, And when it's not going well, you
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  Speaker 2: see what happens that Buffalo game when he was pressed,
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  Speaker 2: he goes barely won that game at Buffalo. It was
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  Speaker 2: a defensive struggle, and Nick was asked about it, about
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  Speaker 2: what happened, and he said he had to help Kevin.
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  Speaker 2: And even your dog doesn't agree.
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  Speaker 3: He rarely does.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's a hit.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mind.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was a shake, but Nick Nick said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I got to do a better job of helping Kevin.
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  Speaker 2: And then almost someone followed up. But then he said,
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  Speaker 2: he jumps in and goes, well, I also have to
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  Speaker 2: coach the football team. Well, guess what this is what
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  Speaker 2: a senior offensive assistant is. That's why you need that guy, right,
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  Speaker 2: You need someone to take some pressure off of view.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're a non play calling head coach. Okay, your
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  Speaker 2: scheme anymore, not your offense anymore. You're gonna be freed
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  Speaker 2: up here. I don't no more excuses. You got to
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  Speaker 2: do a better job. You don't have to micromanage. Got
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  Speaker 2: to like guys do their job. But when they're struggling.
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  Speaker 2: You got to figure out the root cause and make
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  Speaker 2: the correction. He did not do a good job of
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  Speaker 2: that last season.
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  Speaker 3: Agree.
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  Speaker 1: And I like how you say the no more excuses
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  Speaker 1: topic because I think that carries into how they have.
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  Speaker 3: To be this year.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of their run game that we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that they need to weaponize it the
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  Speaker 1: way they did two years ago when they won the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, when the passing game basically was almost an
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  Speaker 1: after I don't call it an afterthought, but it was
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  Speaker 1: a second fiddle. The run game was everything, especially in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, and then yes, in the playoffs, the
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  Speaker 1: passing game really took to form. I mean, the defense
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  Speaker 1: created a lot of turnovers and pass balls in the hands,
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  Speaker 1: and then we saw them score fifty five points in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game and then of course dominate the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But for the most part, the pass offense
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  Speaker 1: was way behind the rushing offense. The whole point of
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  Speaker 1: this is not to get back to twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: For a fan, that's fine, they care all they care
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  Speaker 1: about is winning the Super Bowl. But from an organizational standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: this offense is not supposed to be so that you
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  Speaker 1: have to be like two years ago, where you need
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  Speaker 1: to run the ball so fiercely and so much better
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  Speaker 1: than everybody else and so explosively that the pass game
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  Speaker 1: can just chug along and chug along. The whole point
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  Speaker 1: of this is to build a consistency so that you
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  Speaker 1: have a strong run game and then you have a
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  Speaker 1: strong under center downhill play action game where you can
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  Speaker 1: marry the concepts and everything looks the same.
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  Speaker 3: It might look like a run, but it's a pass
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  Speaker 3: vice versa.
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  Speaker 1: So really, if people want the run game from two
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  Speaker 1: years ago, you don't need that. You shouldn't need that.
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  Speaker 1: The whole point is to get this passing game to
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  Speaker 1: a respectable level where you're not ranking in the bottom
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  Speaker 1: five anymore. So I don't see that it's important to
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  Speaker 1: get the run game back. But to me, it's got
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  Speaker 1: to be an effective run game, more so than prolifically
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  Speaker 1: and explosion like it was two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It's gotta be better. It's got to be explosive. But
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  Speaker 2: the thing that I'll add, and we're we believe this
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  Speaker 2: is gonna happen, that they're gonna add the quarterback run
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  Speaker 2: will be back in there. But there's no way to
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  Speaker 2: know how much. It's got to be a meaningful part.
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  Speaker 2: Like I know, some guys quarterbacks as they get older,
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  Speaker 2: they don't want to do it anymore. They want to
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  Speaker 2: do it way less. That's fine, do it, you can
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  Speaker 2: do it. You don't do a lot. But Hurts is
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  Speaker 2: a power vision runner. He's really good at it. He
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  Speaker 2: could still do it. It's not like he's thirty five.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, man, he's not even thirty yet like this,
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  Speaker 2: and I know he stayed pretty healthy the last two seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. But you got to make a meaningful part
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  Speaker 2: of the offense. We're not talking about percentage. We're just
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  Speaker 2: where we all watch it go okay, pick and choose
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  Speaker 2: your spots. It doesn't have to be it could be
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  Speaker 2: three runs a game, but make make it. Because Hurts
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  Speaker 2: is a good runner. M h He's got he's gotta be.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to be part of the run game because
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  Speaker 2: because there's there's some guys who could run run look
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  Speaker 2: at Lamar, Josh Allen and a couple others. It's because
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  Speaker 2: with Hurts his arm strength, like you've got you, there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot there that they're not taking advantage of. That's
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  Speaker 2: why I bring this up.
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  Speaker 1: This is an interesting discussion. I mean, because if you
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  Speaker 1: look at the other teams that run the kind of
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  Speaker 1: offenses the Eagles are about to run, they don't have
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks who run much, and some of them have quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: who can run. You know, Jordan love Ken run, he
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't. I mean, he's a passing quarterback. He'll run
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  Speaker 1: once in a while, but he won't weaponize it the
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  Speaker 1: way Jalen Hurts used to weaponize his run game.
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  Speaker 3: Do you.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that the the that hurts you just
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  Speaker 1: said hurt should at least run three four times a
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  Speaker 1: game too, because that's an a big part of what
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  Speaker 1: he does. If he doesn't, does that mean this team
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  Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't move the ball the way it should, or
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  Speaker 1: that the offense doesn't work the way it should, because
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  Speaker 1: he really is the only.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Trevor Lawrence will the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence can run. They'll use them occasionally as a runner.
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  Speaker 1: Most of it is freelance, but it's not design. I
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  Speaker 1: don't I didn't watch a ton of Jaguars, but I did.
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  Speaker 1: There was not a lot of design runs.
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  Speaker 2: The bottom line with Hurts is there's more that they
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  Speaker 2: can get out of them m hm. And particularly when
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  Speaker 2: you look at Okay is sae quon Barkley? Is you regressive?
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  Speaker 2: It was it just the offensive line lass season and
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  Speaker 2: not Barkley at all. I know Barkley could have been better. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: it's more offensive line than Barkley. So we don't know
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  Speaker 2: if we've seen the best of we're actually at the
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  Speaker 2: point do we know if he's on the downward side.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know that yet. We'll find out this season.
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  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't wait.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't wait.
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  Speaker 2: It's a change up. It's not it early in Hurts
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  Speaker 2: his career that it was really about him running. It's
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  Speaker 2: no longer about that. It's more about his arm. That's great,
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  Speaker 2: But there's other things you can do with Hurts because
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  Speaker 2: he can run. That's the point. He's very physical. You
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  Speaker 2: could always back off. You look at a three to
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  Speaker 2: five runs per game. That's it. And I'm not counting
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  Speaker 2: toush pushes.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, but no, no, definitely not made To.
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  Speaker 2: Make that clear, and we're talking about QB design runs.
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  Speaker 2: We need to see that Drake May as a runner scrambler.
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  Speaker 2: We mentioned Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Everybody knows that we'll
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  Speaker 2: see like some of the younger quarterbacks and more scramblers
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  Speaker 2: like Bryce Young a little bit design scrambles. Brock Parties
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  Speaker 2: got quick feet. You see some QB runs with him,
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  Speaker 2: good scrambler. But I just want I want them to
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  Speaker 2: take advantage of everything that's there, and we haven't. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't see that last season.
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  Speaker 3: No, we didn't. And last thing on the run game.
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  Speaker 3: And we're not here to state the obvious.
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  Speaker 1: So we know everybody knows that the health of the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line is the key to making sure that the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line can function the.
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  Speaker 3: Way it has in the past. We know that it's obvious.
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  Speaker 3: But they do also have to adjust to an entirely
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  Speaker 3: new blocking scheme.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know that that's going to be like
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  Speaker 1: a finger snap, but I think you've seen other teams
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  Speaker 1: have to do that, and you know.
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  Speaker 3: I go back. I'll go back to the Jaguars last year.
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  Speaker 1: They were not a very good offensive team for the
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  Speaker 1: first six or seven weeks of the season as Liam
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: Cohen was implementing his version of his McVeagh offense, and
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: that didn't look great, and then all of a sudden
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: second half of the year it did. It was crazy
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  Speaker 1: to be Yeah, this is gonna be a big learning
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  Speaker 1: cur and listen, he doesn't have the offensive line talent
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  Speaker 1: that Eagles have.
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  Speaker 3: Now, as long as you're healthy, they should be pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Here's why. Okay, let's go to another point. You and
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: I see and a lot of people watching know this.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about. We'll expand on. This leads into what
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  Speaker 2: you were just talking about. So Trevor Lawrence was had
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: really to be honest with he. I don't want to
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: call him a bus Before last season, he'd been in disappointment.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: There's no way to defend it. Great contract, very up
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  Speaker 2: and down, more down than up. And then I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to call him a leap. But he really took off. Okay,
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: he really took off. I mean you never probably heard
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: of Parker Washington. He became a player. Brenton Straaman came.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: I right, Brenton Strange, Okay, became a player. Good quarterback
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  Speaker 2: play makes everyone around them better. We saw what happened
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  Speaker 2: at twenty two with Hurts. Everybody knows the timing element
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  Speaker 2: of this. He just has to be more consistent. And
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  Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about this offseason, so we don't
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  Speaker 2: need to stay on this very much. He knows he's
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  Speaker 2: got to throw on time. But the coaches mush must
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  Speaker 2: reach him, coach him harder. We've talked about hard coaching
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  Speaker 2: for nine years. We started this in seventeen. Ratings he's
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: made when we started this in the show, like hard
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: coaches are not yelling. It's pointing it out and not
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: letting this guy rest, like you don't let your quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Like whatever Liam Cohen did with Trevor Lawrence, it worked.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's seven weeks, but it worked.
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  Speaker 2: And it was it was incredible. But there were fourteen
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  Speaker 2: to three last season.
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  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, thirteen to four. But yeah, whatever he was,
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  Speaker 3: it was iculous.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Notice Lawrence was the was the lowest rated quarterback as
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  Speaker 1: far as passer rating through the first six weeks of
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: this year. I remember writing this, right, and then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I think that Chiefs game, I remember they
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  Speaker 1: won him on a he.
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  Speaker 2: Ran Chris Jones play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then.
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  Speaker 1: After that he just like it got better and better.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you're getting to the
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: end of the year and you're like, holy cow, Then
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  Speaker 1: Jackson are good and he's playing really well.
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  Speaker 2: Right, but we're clearing the coaches here, we're not It's
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  Speaker 2: not just in the quarterback. The coaches, you have to
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  Speaker 2: reach them. You've got a young as we talked about
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  Speaker 2: with with with the kid that's going to coach the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: M h it's it's a big deal man. It's uh.
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  Speaker 2: Nick has got to do a better job, There's no
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  Speaker 2: question about it. And then with Howie, look, i'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you what, you gotta have better depth here. You you can't.
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  Speaker 2: I like one of the things I like about how
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  Speaker 2: he is he lets guys that, he lets him play,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: communicating with the coaches. Then he decides what he's going
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  Speaker 2: to do. Don't wait. My issue for them at guard
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  Speaker 2: is interior offensive line, but specifically guard because you know
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Kennl's gonna be the backup center. That's we've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about the four months five months now. But what they
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: have to do is they have to get a guard
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: because with Dickerson's significant injury history going back to his
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  Speaker 2: early college days, who the heck knows whether how long
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: he'll last this season. We know about I'm thinking about retiring.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: Miles, heyns. He's not a guard. He's not an answer. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: nobody knows how. He's got to be careful him, be
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: proactive because again, this show today, to make it clear,
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  Speaker 2: this is not a needs show. This is to win
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  Speaker 2: a super Bowl. You have to assume that Dickerson is
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: going to miss time. Okay, now, now, could they move
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  Speaker 2: dragons over? Yes? Okay, that's the post. He's done it before,
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  Speaker 2: He's done that before, but he's played guard before. That's
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: where he started first. But don't wait. If you want
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: to make a super Bowl run, you got to you
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  Speaker 2: gotta check every box off. And they've got to have
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: better depth at guard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I agreed. I want to expand on that,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to go back to something you said
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  Speaker 1: that I think is really vital, all right, about Nick
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  Speaker 1: Sirianni doing a better job.
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  Speaker 3: As a coach.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And this is not an ex's and o's thing.
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  Speaker 1: And you can disagree with me on this, but I've
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: thought about this quite a bit. He took some heat
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  Speaker 1: recently for saying that punting is okay, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: sort of a non aggreat kind of I forget what
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  Speaker 1: where he said it or in what context it was,
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  Speaker 1: but I do believe again, all these radical changes they
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  Speaker 1: made offensively, they need a mentality change, and it has
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  Speaker 1: to start with him, down to the offensive staff, to
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, because the mentality for the last few years
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: is if I play it safe. If I play it
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  Speaker 1: safe and I don't turn the ball over or we
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over, then we will be fine.
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  Speaker 1: We'll score the points we need to win. And Hurts
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  Speaker 1: has been excellent at taking a sack on third down,
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  Speaker 1: staying in the pocket, not finding that open guy who's there,
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  Speaker 1: and then they punt and then they try again next time.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably his sack percentage for a guy who has
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: movement skills that he has is way too high. I mean,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: takes way too many sacks. And that's just because he's
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: just said this. He's like, listen, I'll take the sack
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  Speaker 1: hold onto the football and we'll live to see another
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  Speaker 1: day because I don't turn the ball over. But if
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: you're going to make all these changes on offense designed
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: to have a better more rhythmic offense, more fluid offense
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: with openings that you're supposed to hit in rhythm. You
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: heard Sewan Mannion say it's about hearing your feet. Your footwork,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: your drop has to mesh with the play call. If
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: it's a three step drop, you have to hear that
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: back foot on three bam out right five step.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Same thing.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: We've watched tape with Greg coo Sel for years and
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: then seen, Yes, he can do great throws down the field.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: He can make every throw. But how many times have
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: we pointed out some of those designed quick hitters where
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: the guy is there and the backfoot's not planted and
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the ball doesn't come out, takes a sack, they punt
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: and then they end up winning the game, you know,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: twenty four whatever, because you know they had a nice
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter drive or Saquon.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: And the right that's got to go out the window.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people love that about
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the Eagles, and his mentality is we don't turn the
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: ball over, and that was good for what it was.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: This offense is not supposed to be This offen is
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: supposed to change that, and that's got to be a
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: mentality change that starts with Nick Sirianni.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he he.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Should say it's okay to turn the ball over.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: It can't be okay to just keep taking sacks. And
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: keep having three and outs as long as you don't turn.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: The ball over over. Okay, mentality and aggressive mentality.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: It had. The belief here is it started after the
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: twenty three season when Hurts turn the ball over too
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: much for too many throws, and then obviously twenty four
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: he didn't have to do a whole lot because they
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: had Barklay and the defense just just don't turn it over.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: That that's what. Yeah, we've been talking about this. Greg
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: was the first one and brought up. In fact, Greg
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: gave Jalen a great compliment. He would say, I'm paraphrasing.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: He's said it many times on our show. Hurts see
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: him to understand his role within the offense, manage the game. Well,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: don't turn it over and they're going to win. But
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: you're saying you don't want to. That can't be your mentality.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: He's way too tolerantly. He's making too much money. Obviously
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: he's gonna want a new deal after the season because
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: his contract changed it significantly in terms of guaranteed money. Right,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see how this is going to work.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: But on your point on three, five and seven, three
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: step typically is one point one to one point three
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: five step is one point five one point seven to
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: one point nine is seven, depending which coach you took.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: But this is from the tell the coaches over the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: years that balls like you talked about the back foot
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: three step drop, it's rhythmic, it's timing. It's got to happen. Uh.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Looking forward to seeing that in training camp because as
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: we correctly predicted, the reporters would go to OTA's and
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: they ripped the Oh looks terrible. Of course it's not
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: gonna lookod. We knew, we told people this is not
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: gona look good.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Hm.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Everybody's learning a new offense. You mentioned the offensive lineman.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It's all got to be rhythmic. So yeah, I mean
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: other than that on offense. Oh, what we really haven't talked.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this in passing.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: You have something that I that I completely agree with
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: that we really should talk about.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Something we've discussed and you have it here to talk about.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Is I don't think this works.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the Eagles can can pull a
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Seahawks of last year and just funnel that's everything to
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith and think that they're going to win a
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They absolutely First of all they have. They
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: have more talent I think, from top to bottom among
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: their pass catchers than the Seahawks did last year even
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: without a J.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And they they absolutely need a legitimate secondary passing option
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to complement DeVante Smith if.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: They want to be a super Bowl team. And that's
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: that's how I see. I don't. I don't think you
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: can get like.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I just don't think what you saw from the Seahawks
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: is the template for for how to win Super Bowl.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: All right, Like you're saying, it's like, well, just because
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: they do it, we could do it. No, that that's
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: not That's not why they guaranteed Dantavian Wick's nine million.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: That's not why they drafted McKay lemon. They want, they
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: want to have a deep passing target group. Now they
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: don't have a J.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Brown.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: We get that that's the problem. But the best example
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of you can win with a mediocre group of past
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: targets is the Niners. When brod Perty's at his best,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: he's a top ten quarterback. When he plays on time,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: he's I don't want to see elite. That's too strong.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: He's really good, now, don't he doesn't have hurts his arm,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he's got hurts. His mobility, you can run. He's act
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: more of a scrambler. He's got very quick feet, but
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: he makes others around him better when he throws on time.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: You could win with mediocre talent, but you don't want
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: to settle for that. As we just outline with Wis
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and Lemon and Hollywood Brown, if he could still run well,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: our guy Darius Cooper, We'll see about Elijah Moore, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: obviously Goddard and Stours. They're going to be fine as
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a target group if Hurtz plays with an instruction and
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the coaches can reach him. But the key is though,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: so it's got to be someone else than Smith. Mkay.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Lemon should be fine for training camp coming off the hamstring.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You don't like that he missed time, but he should
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: be fine. And if he's ready to go, he their slot.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: That's why they drafted him, which should play a lot
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: of the expositions. Somebody could play Acus. He's done a
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: little bit of it, but he's really a Z and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: with Goddard and his athleticism, Stours athleticism look out. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: everyone's got to get it. As you mentioned timing, everybody's
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: got it. This is new people I know it's hard
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: for folks in our market to be patient, but it
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: could be a beautiful thing if you look at the endgame. Okay,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: same for the Commanders fans. I know we have some
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Commanders fans who watched with David Blau. He's going to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: run a lot of Ben Johnson concepts. I'm told he's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: gonna run a West coast and we'll see if he
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: blends anything else. But when you're learning something you've never
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: run before, the players have never run, it's not gonna
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: get done in two weeks. May not even look good
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: in training camp, but just be patient. These guys are talented.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: You just gotta let it roll.
• 20:46
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• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Every time you say something in passing it reminds me
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of a bullet point that I wanted to bring up,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and I thought, I think, just like we talked about mentality, right,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: patience from top to bottom, not just the fans, because
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know, don't make decisions on personnel, but the I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: do think like when things are bad in Philly and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: every you know, it's fans, it's media, sports writers, us
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: edering like getting on, then the organization fuels that right
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and I can't. I don't think it's fair to expect
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: that they're just going to hit the ground running with
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the entirely new offense I brought up the Jaguars, you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and even.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: The Seahawks last year.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: The first few weeks were as they were transitioning to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak's offense. I don't think that they lit the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: world on fire offensively.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and look.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I think they've lost seventeen thirteen in their first game
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: of the Niners. Yeah, so there were then they had
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: some explosive games and they didn't. So I think I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: think the organization has to not take a page from
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when Kellen Moore was the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and he was trying to do X, Y
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and Z and it was a little clunky. It was
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: very clunky for the first five or six weeks. You
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: know that Cleveland Browns, remember how ugly that was? And
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the off Jags game. Oh, there were just some ugly
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: offensive games. And then and then yes, they ripped it up.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: They said we're gonna go back to running the Eagles
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: offense and they won the Super Bowl. I'm gonna just
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: repeat this like until I'm blue in the face. That
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: can't that's not gonna happen again.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: They're not.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: You didn't make all these radical changes just so you
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: could trumple it all up if it's not working after
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: five weeks and say okay, we're just gonna go back
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to running the ball ground to pound and you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: trying to throw it deep down the sidelines.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: That they wouldn't have.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Done everything they've done this offseason, including another first time
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: play caller, if they weren't totally committed to real active
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: change and offense from mentality to execution. Right, So they
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: have to be patient too, because they're gonna have a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: great defense, and they might win some games because of
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: their defense early on, and there might be a temptation
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to be like, man, this offensive thing it's not coming along,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But we have such a great defense and our running
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: games back, let's just.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Let's just do that. Let's just do that again and
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: then maybe the next year or what. No, you can't.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Right then, you got a question why the hell they
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: bring Sean Mannion in that. That's like, I'm not saying
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it can't happen. I mean it's because but of hers,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it's not playing well, you could become more just well,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: they're going to try to be a run team anyway,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: regardless of who the quarterback is. Just you have when
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you have Saquon Barket. They're telling you what you're doing.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You're not. It's going for the run game. But we're
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: seeing with the Phillies. Phillies pitching right now is elite.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Most shoutouts in MLB twelve. It's credible. Okay, But at
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: some point the offense has got it to its job
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: if they want to if they want to win a ring.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And here the offense has gotta car there's enough talent
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: here on offense, everyone, not just the quarterback, offensive line,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the running game. The running back's got to be better
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: than last season. Offensive line's got to be. It's not
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: they're never gonna have a season like two years ago. Forget,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. Absolutely not gonna happen.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they can't.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You're right, that's my total point is that you can't
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: just like take the outlier and then consider that you
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: were your ticket to another super Bowl.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: It doesn't happen that way.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: But they could be a lot better. That you just
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: have to be better.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And and how he's got help melt He's yes, let
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: these guys see what you have in training camp. Don't
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: wait forever, Okay, don't try to wait until the season
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: when someone gets hurt and okay, let's go with Michael Jordan,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the journeyman guard. That's a lot to ask me this
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: this Stefanwi Snoosky's of the world. That was a great story,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and I give how he's credit, but don't wait till
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: it has to be a great story. Be proactive. Everyone's
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: got their handed to get back. You know how hard
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: it is to get back with these things, to get
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But they got a quarterback who's done it. Submitty has
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: done it. A lot of these offensive linemen we're there
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and started. The tight end's done it, and we'll get
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the defense in the next show. But there to finish
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: us off. There's a lot there that's got to happen.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Mm hm.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: But everyone's got to be accountable for this thing.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think part of being accountable is understanding, right,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: there's going to be growing pains.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: But you made these moves for a reason.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: So if they're two and three after five games, hypothetically
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and the world hates them and the national media ates
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: them and the Philly fan base hates them, it's not
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be a reason that a to just rip it
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: all up. And I do worry about that with this
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: team though, I do. I do because Nick will be
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: on the hot seat as he always is, but especially
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: coming off of a first round playoff exit, and he's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: gonna know that it's his hide if the Eagles don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: do well this year, you know, and then everybody else,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: But really it starts with Nick, and you know, I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: want to see him be able to say no, like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not, We're not going to change, because he hasn't
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: done it yet.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: It's always been revert back, revert back. He's got to.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Put the fist down and say we are soldiering through
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: with this or with this philosophy and trust us it's
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: gonna work.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: And hopefully it does work for them.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: But it can't just change or deviate or take a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: back seat a couple of weeks into the season because
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: every because it doesn't look good and everybody's you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: pounded on him, which that happens if they lose two games,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. It hit last year, right they lost
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to the Giants, and then who's it? Right after the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Giant they lost to another team. I can't remember their
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: schedule at this point. But you know, and the whole
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: world hated them, but they rebounded. You know, they got things,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: They got things.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Right Bronchos and Giants.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Remember they had that that fourth quarter collapse against the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Broncos and then they lost to the Giants.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Remember twenty one. Remember twenty twenty one, Knick's first year,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: they made the playoffs. He got off to the terrible start.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: He out of the tight calling. They turned their season around, right, Nix, Listen,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: we've actually been more defenders than the tract We run
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: after tractors. We've criticized when needs to deserve it. We
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: actually have gone in pretty deep. We thought he did
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a bad job twenty three. He did a bad job.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You got to coach your coaches better, You got to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: connect better. I know he's mister connection. But when you're
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: mister connection and you're missing it, when you're you're clearly
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: missing what's going on with their coaching staff, as he
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: did in twenty three till it was too late, you
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: don't have a great hold of your football team. That's
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: on him. That's not on Howe, that's on him. Gotta
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: do a better job, all.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Right, before we close it out, One more key for
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: me that pops up. I absolutely believe that they will
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: need to lighten Saquan's load a little bit this year.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, two straight years of staying healthy with the volume.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, he had all those injuries with the Giants,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and amazingly he's come to the Eagles and stayed so healthy.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: But he's also had probably the NFL's biggest workload over
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the last two years in terms of touches and certainly carries.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: He has become in a way that I didn't think
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: that they could use him when he first got here
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: because of his injury history, but to expect a third
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: straight year of as many touches as he had, which
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: is also not even necessary when you have a guy
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: like Tank Bigsby as a backup running back and you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: have a guy like will Shipley who has some juice
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and gets some catches. But Adam the guy has had
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. He had three hundred
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and seventeen touches last year, after three seventy eight.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: The year before. Okay, he'd never had.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: He had over three hundred twice with the Giants, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: each time the next year they would get hurt. So
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: they're they're playing with Hower's stunning on thin ice with
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: yeah the house money skating on thin ice.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: He's been hell here like it's you know, it's funny
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: because the odds makers completely missed it two years ago
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: for twenty four. I love the over. Two years ago
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: it was like a Remember it was like a thousand
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and five, some ridiculously low one. He had it within
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: like eight games or something. But anyway, right this year's
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it's much higher than it was two years ago, but
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it's still very reasonable. I think it's might be I
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: don't have fun, maybe twelve or thirteen hundred yards. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: like the over. Yeah it's going to go through him.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. And that's something in defense they
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: could do and we'll talk about the next show. But yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: get it. Tank picks be looked great. He definitely looked
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: at not the Niners game because they were on it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: The way he runs, he tries to bounce when he
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: can't bounce, he's not as good. So we'll see how
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: he adjusts. But as a change up, which we called
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: him exactly first time we saw him, and he goles
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: uniform of code, there's a perfect change up to Barkley
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: completely contesting styles. You love this, and they just don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: use him enough, like it's okay, you can let him
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: actually have a series, it's okay, Like there's nothing wrong
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: with it. It's like they're so against it all. Jamal
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Singleton's the running backs coach. But you have a new
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: play caller. We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Man, if you would have told me two years ago
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  Speaker 1: that Barkley would have six hundred and ninety five touches
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: in his first two years as an Eagle, which means
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: over seven hundred if you count the postseason, I would
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  Speaker 1: have laughed at you.
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  Speaker 3: To do it. Yeah, exactly exactly. You would think like that.
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  Speaker 1: So so that's another That's just something that they've got
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a monitor and they actually have a reason to be
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: able to play their backup a little more. And I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: do think if getting to the super Bowl is the key,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: then keeping Saquon healthy is the key, and lightning his
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: workload is would be a big part of that.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I've got. You have anything else, of fend, We've.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Kind of we've some stuff, you know, we were we
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: kind of met in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's everyone's got a piece of this offense. Man,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: it's it's not on just one person. It's not a saying.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It's just we just outline it for you. You know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's next. Got to help his coaches out, particularly
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a new one Manion. Got to communicate better and get
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: guys the buy in more. I don't think there was
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: enough buy in with the former offensive coordinator. They all
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: liked them, thought it was smart, but a lot of
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: we heard was that you could question the buy in.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: It was ultra bad.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Right. The passing game was atrocious. It's called it like
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: it is. Everyone had a part in it. So let's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: see this season it also could look like a beautiful thing.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: But the point of the show is to get back
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Everyone's got to be significantly better. The quarterback, the running back,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the offensive line, ye, all of it. Game by calling coaching.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't think it was that bad until we did
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the show today. Wasn't that it was that bad. It's
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: just there's a lot more to it, you know what.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I agree that I didn't think it was that bad.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And then I wound up reading some stories from that
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: we wrote on Philly Voice last year, and one of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: them was about how bad they were on third downs,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and then how historically on pace for like the most
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: three and outs in the NFL. Remember they were, they
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: were so far ahead of whoever was the second worst
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: team on three and ounce that it was. It was
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: discussing it's embarrassing, hitting you over the head how bad
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: things were getting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so that that's it. By the way, it
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean they can't be fourteen to three thirteen. Okay,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they camp. It's just that this is
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the point of the show is if they want to
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: get back to the super Bowl, make a run. Yep,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: They've got to clean up a lot of things. And
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: it started for the front office of small things. We
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: just outlined everything that's about it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: All right, great stuff.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: In the next episode we will go to defense and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: we'll tackle on special teams there as well. To finish
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  Speaker 1: off this series. That's going to do it for this
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