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- 0:06You're listening to The West Carol Morning Show. Thursday morning, tenth day
- 0:11of August. I'm West thanks for joining me. Following up on a story
- 0:19we just did the other day. Neil Degrass Tyson seems I guess he has
- 0:28decided that he is now all things science. Maybe he's taken the role of
- 0:34Anthony Fauci. I don't know, I am science or to question him as
- 0:39to question science, I don't know. I've never been a big fan of
- 0:46and I think it's a strange phenomenon that we have that. You know,
- 0:51there was a time where you had like Mister Wizard. You know, that
- 0:55was a show that I was all when I was a kid, and you
- 0:57watched Mister Wizard's World and he would teach kids about science. They would do
- 1:03little experiments on the show. And he's not the only one. I think
- 1:07he started regional and then it became a sort of a national thing. I
- 1:11guess Nickelodeon picked him up at some point and it became an access for kids
- 1:18didn't have a Mister Wizard in their local market because some places did. It's
- 1:22like mister Chef. We have mister Chef here. We have that, we
- 1:26have mister we have mister Chef. I think we still have a version of
- 1:30mister Chef, don't we. So there was a time when mister Wizard and
- 1:37those like him. But we'll use mister Wizard because, as I said,
- 1:41he became a access point for people like me as a kid here and if
- 1:47you grew up here in the Chattahoochee Valley area, we didn't have a mister
- 1:51Science on TV. We didn't have that. We had mister Wizard. And
- 1:56mister Wizard just did experiments. Hey, we're gonna put baking soda and a
- 2:00vinegar and a volcano and we're gonna look at that. That's what we got.
- 2:06And in those kinds of things, Hey, I'm gonna show you how
- 2:08to make a clock out of a baked potato, right, stuff like that.
- 2:12That's the kind of things that he did. And then he explained the
- 2:15science behind it, and then he went on about his day. You know,
- 2:21he got back to missus Wizard or whatever, he went home, and
- 2:24that was it. That was the end of it. We watched him and
- 2:29we learned something we maybe wanted to try and experiment at home. We made
- 2:31a mess with our little volcanoes we made and maybe or you know, we
- 2:38were responsible and we didn't make a giant mess and we made a potato clock
- 2:42or whatever we did, and then we just got on with our lives.
- 2:46Well, at some point there became this bigger phenomenon of creating these sort of
- 2:53rock stars, if you will, in the science community. And you know,
- 2:58we don't really have this in other areas of study, not that I'm
- 3:05aware of. Do we have, like a mister math, I don't know
- 3:07that we do. Maybe we should. Maybe I remember Dave Berry, the
- 3:15great columnist and author, and I know politically I don't necessarily agree with all
- 3:23of the things he writes about. Sometimes he doesn't often do politics, but
- 3:27when he does. But I've read many of his books. I own many
- 3:30of his books. Some of his books are among my favorite books in existence.
- 3:35If you haven't read Dave Berry Slept Here, a sort of history of
- 3:38the United States, you're missing out. If you've never read Dave Berry's Guide
- 3:42to Guys, you're missing out. These are great books that you should read.
- 3:46Highly recommend. You will not be disappointed. If you know anything about
- 3:50US history, you will enjoy that book, his take on American history,
- 3:55The Guide to Guy's self Explanatory. The best way I can summarize that book
- 4:01is he has a philosophy. There's women, there's men, and then there's
- 4:05guys. Men went to the moon, guys invented mooning. That's it.
- 4:10That's how you understand there's a difference between men and guys. And he wrote
- 4:14a book about guys for guys, and it's really for women and men to
- 4:17understand guys. Anyway. Dave Barry in his column used to have a segment
- 4:25where he would call it ask mister language person, and people would write in.
- 4:30You know, it was all made up, but it was supposed to
- 4:31be people writing in to ask him questions about language. That's as close as
- 4:35we got, I guess, from representing the language arts. I don't know
- 4:39of anybody that covered that, at least not on a broad spectrum. I
- 4:45don't think we really hit it from too many areas. We had, you
- 4:48know, some some you know artists, right, we had that. We
- 4:55had some famous artists that went on TV and told us about pretty little trees,
- 4:58but they didn't become the official spokespeople for all things art, right,
- 5:06we didn't ask Bob Ross what he thought about origami. That wasn't something that
- 5:13he ever felt the need to chime in on, That wasn't something that took
- 5:17on a life of its own. He painted, and then the show ended,
- 5:21and then they you know, they told you where you could buy paint
- 5:25supplies or whatever, and then they moved on. They went on to the
- 5:28next show. So again, maybe if Bob Ross were getting started today,
- 5:34if there were a Bob Ross type today, I don't know all that's on
- 5:38YouTube now. And even the people on YouTube, that's all they do is
- 5:42they tell you how to paint a picture, and then they move on,
- 5:45they go on to the next thing. I don't know many of them that
- 5:46are telling us about every other type of art. You know, if they're
- 5:50painting, they tell you about painting. You know, I don't know many
- 5:54of them that are let me tell you about origami, let me tell you
- 5:57about all the other arts, let me explain to you about everything else to
- 6:02do with art. They kind of focus on their one area of expertise.
- 6:08And I don't know why science has suddenly become something that's so different for us,
- 6:12Because we got Bill Nye, who you know, an engineer or whatever,
- 6:15not not even a scientist. But he became the science guy because he
- 6:20became sort of the next generation mister Wizard, and he was able to,
- 6:26you know, gain a different, broader audience, and a lot of cases
- 6:32his content was pumped into classrooms. It was easy to probably initially they were
- 6:36just recording it and bringing it in and rolling in the old VCR with the
- 6:42TV into the room. We had those you punch it, you pop it
- 6:45in and you hit the play button and you watch Bill and I the science
- 6:47Guy. And then I think eventually they had programming that was coming in through
- 6:53other means. I know that. You know now they probably pull it in,
- 6:57just stream it online somewhere and it's available for him to talk about science.
- 7:00But somewhere along the line, in doing interviews, people saw a need
- 7:05to ask him other questions about things he's not necessarily an expert in, which
- 7:10is really you know, if he's an engineer, all science not related to
- 7:15engineering, I guess. So then Neil de grass Tyson came along and became
- 7:20the next guy, and he certainly sounds smart when he talks. He definitely
- 7:28conveys a lot of intelligence when he talks. You know, he sounds like
- 7:32a smart guy, sounds like he talks about things from the perspective of a
- 7:35scientist, but he's an astrophysicist. That's what he is. You know,
- 7:41he's he's into making Pluto not a planet anymore and those kinds of things.
- 7:45That's that's his you know, it's a dwarf planet. That's that's sort of
- 7:47his expertise. And I did a show recently where I talked about how he
- 7:54decided it was important to jump in and talk about the gender spectrum. And
- 8:00he started talking about how, you know, you wake up some days and
- 8:05you feel eighty percent female and twenty percent male, so you put on makeup,
- 8:09and then some days you wake up and you feel eighty percent male and
- 8:13twenty percent female, so you put on a you know, a muscle shirt
- 8:16and you go out. Needless to say, that didn't go over well with
- 8:22a lot of the young people, Okay, period, because he's using these
- 8:26old school stereotypes. And it's important to note that because we're gonna come back
- 8:30to that in a second. But he uses these old school stereotypes about what
- 8:33men and women are and how it all works. And Chloe Cole, who
- 8:39herself biologically born a girl, went through the process of changing her gender very
- 8:48early on, and then realize, this is a grave mistake. I should
- 8:52have gotten better support, I should have gotten psychological counseling before I was allowed
- 8:56to do what I was allowed to do, and now realize this is a
- 9:03horrible, horrible mistake. And she's now back to living her life. So
- 9:05she went through the process of becoming a man, living as a boy,
- 9:11I guess to become a man, and then is now living her life as
- 9:15a woman. And she's very critical of the comments that were made by Neil
- 9:22de grass Tyson. Didn't appreciate anything that he had to say about it.
- 9:26And I go back to why why are we asking Neil de grass Tyson his
- 9:33comments on it? Right? Why are we getting his thoughts on it when
- 9:37it's not his area of expertise. Now he's allowed to have an opinion on
- 9:41it, certainly, But this goes back to a little bit what we're talking
- 9:43about yesterday. We have these platforms that people have, and we feel like,
- 9:50because they have a platform, we should get their thoughts on it,
- 9:52assuming that we're going to agree with their platform. That's really what it's all
- 9:58about. Both sides are guilty of this. We can't pretend that this is
- 10:03exclusive to one side. Now, the left, of course, takes it
- 10:07to a whole different level on most cases where they basically say, agree with
- 10:11us, or we'll get you. We'll tell everybody where you live, we'll
- 10:16do whatever we gotta do to end you. We'll get your house taken away,
- 10:18whatever we gotta do unless you agree with us. That's kind of their
- 10:22their idea on how this all works. So and it's you know, the
- 10:28Budweiser and isser Busch boycott. You have to factor that in for folks on
- 10:33the right. That's like the one time it seems that they got all their
- 10:35ducks in a row really at least recently and h and made some headway head
- 10:41win with that. By the way, Budweiser just side note selling off beer
- 10:46brands Anheuser Busch is sorry. I'm just gonna as a quick little tangent here,
- 10:52but as of Tuesday of this week, there was an agreement to sell
- 10:56off several of their I guess eight of their craft beer brands. Shock Top,
- 11:03Blue Point, Breckinridge, Red Hook and Highball Energy were some of the
- 11:11among the ones that were sold off and they were going to till Ray Brands,
- 11:16which is a cannabis company. So they've jumped in and taking those eight
- 11:22brands away. And that's the small percentage of what sales are for Anheuser bush
- 11:30but it's a bigger percentage now that overall Anheuser Busch is tanked a lot because
- 11:35of conservative boycotts because of the Dylan Mulvaney protest. So this is one of
- 11:41those areas where conservatives jumped in and did their things, so to speak,
- 11:48actually got organized and said we're gon we're gonna boycott this and we're gonna take
- 11:52this down because it's not right. I don't think it's just conservatives. I
- 11:56do think there's some of the folks in the middle, maybe even left of
- 12:00center certainly, folks kind of right of center, and folks in the very
- 12:03middle that certainly feel like there's a common sense element of all of this.
- 12:07It's not really being allowed to be heard or allowed to play out. But
- 12:11anyway, that's just a side note. I thought it was worth mentioning the
- 12:16because it does tie in, but this Anheuser Busch thing. So back to
- 12:22Neil de grass Tyson, who was asked his thoughts on it, and he
- 12:26comes in with this really very dated answer to this as far as well,
- 12:31I'm gonna wear makeup and that makes me more feminine today. So he's done
- 12:35another interview where he's the Michael Schermer Show, and he talked about how he
- 12:48feels that this concept that's he thinks it's weird that humans split people by male
- 12:58and female like that we break them into groups, and he says that by
- 13:03doing that, it's a failure in the evolution of our brain wiring to categorize
- 13:07things that way, and he feels like, he says, it's a little
- 13:11weird that we split people by male and female in this way. I'm imagining
- 13:15a hundred years from now looking back and saying, do you know, back
- 13:18a hundred years ago, they split boys and girls and they couldn't compete.
- 13:22And I was like, that's just gonna be kind of a little weird.
- 13:26And then Shermer, who's the host, basically referenced the fact that Neil deGrasse
- 13:31Tyson used to be a wrestler and he was a big guy, and he
- 13:35basically said, I don't think that even the best woman wrestler could have taken
- 13:39you on with your size advantage that you had, And Tyson then said,
- 13:45you're an old man on the porch and a rocking chair right now with that.
- 13:50So, now this is coming from a guy who used the I'm gonna
- 13:54put on makeup because I feel more feminine, or I'm gonna put on a
- 13:56muscle shirt before I feel because I feel more mass skill in today. So
- 14:01I thought that was an interesting thing, but he basically says, it's it's
- 14:05strange and it's weird that we break human beings into genders. Now, why
- 14:11might we have done that for I don't know, since the beginning of time
- 14:18really, since the human brain was capable of breaking people into men and women.
- 14:24Now you can go into biblical times and understand that there's a very clear
- 14:28explanation for that for those who don't want to look to the Bible to it.
- 14:33Even if you're just going to go on an evolutionary standpoint, how far
- 14:39would life have existed if it was all just one one gender, just one
- 14:45giant group, and the animals and human beings couldn't make a distinction, weren't
- 14:54smart enough to make a distinction to understand how to procreate, you know,
- 15:00they weren't able to figure it out. All of the you know, males
- 15:05tried to mate, all of the females tried to mate, and there we
- 15:07just can't figure it out. Something's wrong here. We can't make the connection.
- 15:13We don't understand why we're not producing more offspring. And at some point
- 15:18they go, well, wait a minute, Johnny the caveman and Sally the
- 15:22cave lady, they were able to do it. Let's let's scientifically take a
- 15:28look at these two and try to figure out exactly what's different. What is
- 15:33the difference between the two. That would be how science works, isn't it.
- 15:37I mean, I know Neil deGrasse Tyson is a scientist and he mainly
- 15:41deals in you know, astrophysics and things. But he should understand basic science,
- 15:50right, I mean, if he's confused why there was a need to
- 15:52break the you know, male and female for human beings, for animal husbandry,
- 16:02to understand that there is a difference, and to understand some of the
- 16:07biological differences the importance of the differences. Now, is he trying to make
- 16:11a case for why we don't understand this idea of this floating spectrum of genders.
- 16:19I don't know if anybody really fully understand. This is all a very
- 16:22new concept. Now there's people who say it's not new, that it's been
- 16:26around for a long time, but in its current form, this is a
- 16:29very new thing that a lot of people just don't still understand, and even
- 16:34the most generous trying to understand and trying to follow along, people will make
- 16:41mistakes and be criticized for it. They'll be attacked how dare you you know
- 16:47that I'm a they and I'm not a he anymore? I'm sorry, you
- 16:51know, or the infamous video that's ma'am. It's there's going to be complications
- 16:59and challenges to part of it with language, part of it, with you
- 17:03know, familiarity when it's somebody that you've known for a long time, and
- 17:07sometimes it just has to do with appearance. And it's the reality, because
- 17:14yes, we are wired that way, and we do understand that there are
- 17:18some differences and in society where we've tried to be polite and we've tried to
- 17:22say ma'am or we've tried to say sir, or we've tried to talk to
- 17:27one another in a way that's what's we were raised to do it and called
- 17:30mister or missus or miss or whatever. And I mean that's one you know
- 17:36you said miss or miss if if you didn't know you miss was intended to
- 17:41be something so that you didn't upset someone who wasn't married or was no longer
- 17:47married. I don't know why there was never that distinction for men, but
- 17:51to say that it's weird that we noticed, observed, and scientifically needed to
- 17:59understand why we break things down into this binary system of male and female.
- 18:04That's not very scientific. It's not science like, is he talking about a
- 18:10future where he believes that eventually, all you know, women athletes, biologically
- 18:18born women athletes are going to be just as strong and competitive as men.
- 18:22I don't know what his science is to base that on. I don't know
- 18:26what he's saying. Is he using data and research from two hundred years,
- 18:30three hundred years ago to say, hey, there's been a drastic change in
- 18:37women's bodies and they're closing that gap, and then in one hundred or two
- 18:41hundred years that gap and well he does he says one hundred years that gap
- 18:45is going to be closed. There's a lot of things I think they're going
- 18:47to question in a hundred years. I do think this is one of those
- 18:49things they are going to question one hundred years. They're going to question our
- 18:53patients with this. They're gonna wonder how some of us were as patient as
- 19:00we were or not as patient as we were. And I don't know which
- 19:03direction. I do think that it is going to be looked at very differently
- 19:06at a hundred years than it is now. I do. I don't know
- 19:11which way it's gonna push, but I do I do think that in a
- 19:15hundred years they're gonna look at some things that we've done and question them strongly.
- 19:18They're gonna wonder about our fights to eliminate the unborn. I think that
- 19:23that's gonna come. I think there's gonna be a question of wait, they
- 19:26did what. I don't know what's going to cause that to happen, but
- 19:30I think that there's a real possibility that at some point, maybe it's a
- 19:33thousand years from now. I'm not gonna be short sighted and say it's a
- 19:37hundred. Maybe in a thousand, maybe five hundred years from now, they're
- 19:40going to say we're happy to have children born, or maybe in that period
- 19:45of time they're gonna say we got so many people and it's a climate change.
- 19:51They're gonna look back at climate change very differently, aren't they. They're
- 19:55gonna look back at climate change and they're gonna go Did you not understand that
- 19:57it fluctuates all the time? Did you not understand that the Sun's a big
- 20:03factor in the way that climate plays out? Did you guys not understand that
- 20:07back in twenty twenty three, and you know, the twenty thirty years leading
- 20:15up to that, nineteen seventy when you said that there was going to be
- 20:17an ice age coming and those kinds of things. Did you not understand all
- 20:19that? Then? I think there's a real possibility that they'll be looking at
- 20:22that. But here we go again, someone else trying to get Neil Degrass
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- 23:53five eight forty five hundred O DC Columbus dot com more Scarrell Morning Show right
- 24:00after the break. Is there a right amount of time that a first date
- 24:12should last? While the new survey says, on average, a first date
- 24:15should last a little less than three hours, and dinner remains the most popular
- 24:22option for first dates among those who were pulled, but eighty one percent of
- 24:26respondents said dinner dates are the hardest to escape if they aren't going well.
- 24:32You have to almost have a strategy in place. You know, it's been
- 24:34a long time since I've had a first date, a very, very,
- 24:38very long time, and I'm happy about that. All right. A good
- 24:42indication that people are headed back to the office is that the company's Zoom.
- 24:49You know, Zoom, the company that makes it easy to work from home
- 24:53or elsewhere away from the office. They're telling their employees they need to come
- 24:59back to the all the video conferencing giant is being realistic about it, though.
- 25:03Management is asking workers to return just two weeks I'm sorry, just two
- 25:08days per week, and only if they live within fifty miles of a Zoom
- 25:12office. Otherwise, they say you can keep video conferencing in full time.
- 25:18But that could be the beginning of things. I think that's what a lot
- 25:22of companies are doing. But Zoom saying it wants employees to interact with their
- 25:25teams. But the main selling point of Zoom is that you can do everything
- 25:32by Zoom. Right. That seems to be going against the whole strategy of
- 25:36the brand, I think, But anyway, I don't know, what do
- 25:38I know? Would you rather have a big house in the suburbs or a
- 25:42smaller house with more places that you can walk to in an area that's more
- 25:47conveniently located. Pew Research has a new survey. It says fifty percent of
- 25:52Americans would prefer a bigger house that's not closer to things they can walk to,
- 25:57with forty three percent saying that they would settle for less living space and
- 26:00exchange for having stores, restaurants, and other entertainment venues nearer to their homes.
- 26:07Sixty three percent of older people prefer the space. Probably not a big
- 26:11surprise there, even if they've got a drive everywhere, with forty five percent
- 26:15of people under the age of thirty that would prefer that. More education you
- 26:22have, though, the more likely you'll want to live somewhere that is at
- 26:25least moderately walkable or easier to walk to places. So all right, if
- 26:30you're a fan of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre films, at least the first one,
- 26:38right, the o G one. Maybe you don't like all the sequels.
- 26:41But if you're a fan, well, maybe you'd like to check out
- 26:47the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre restaurant. It's in Kingsland, Texas, and it's
- 26:53the house that served for the setting for the movie. It's named Hoopers after
- 27:00Toby Hooper, who wrote and directed the movie. It's been cleaned up some,
- 27:07but the owners of the house given nod to the heritage of the restaurant
- 27:12with cocktails like the Grandpa Sawyer, the Ripper and No One Lives Forever.
- 27:18So there's just a small element of theme to it. I don't know that,
- 27:22you know, I doubt they're going to be playing up the whole cannibal
- 27:25thing. I wouldn't think so, I mean, I know they're not literally
- 27:27going to do it, but I would hope that. I don't know.
- 27:30Maybe if you go there you want to really get an immersive experience. I
- 27:33don't know. Maybe that's what you want. I don't know. And if
- 27:38you're looking to heal mental health, how about a bowl of nuts. A
- 27:41new study published by a Clinical nutrition found that eating as little as one ounce
- 27:45of nuts a day can lower your chances of depression. All nut consumption was
- 27:51recorded, including Almond's, cashews, pistachio, salted nuts, roasted nuts,
- 27:55peanuts, and of the thirteen thousand, five hundred adults surveyed, those who
- 27:59ate nuts were seventeen percent less likely to fall into depression than those who did
- 28:04not. So I mean I feel like, I know it's not the PC
- 28:11thing, but it's like eating nuts helps you not have mental health problems.
- 28:18I'm not going to say the other thing, but it seems like it's setting
- 28:21itself up for that, right, But I'm not going to do that.
- 28:22I wouldn't. That's just that's in bad taste. That'll do it for this
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