Latest / Beyond The Horizon / Mega Edition: The Murder Of Gabby Petito And Confusion Early On (10/17/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of Beyond
- 0:04Speaker 1: the Horizon. I appreciate everybody joining me this Sunday morning
- 0:09Speaker 1: as we take another look at the murder of Gabby
- 0:11Speaker 1: Petito and now the manhunt for Brian Laundrie. Last night
- 0:18Speaker 1: when we left off we were talking about the alleged
- 0:21Speaker 1: sighting of Brian Laundrie by the engineer in North Carolina.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Now Again, I can't say one way or the other
- 0:33Speaker 1: what this dude saw or what he didn't see. But
- 0:37Speaker 1: when you take a look at Mr. Davis's, you know,
- 0:42Speaker 1: resume and who he is, pretty successful guy. I don't
- 0:46Speaker 1: see why somebody like that would be making something up. Now, again,
- 0:50Speaker 1: he might be wrong. He might have not seen Brian,
- 0:54Speaker 1: but he's 100% convinced that whoever he saw was Brian Laundrie. Now,
- 1:03Speaker 1: people are like, well, what's with the odd flex of
- 1:06Speaker 1: saying I'm educated? And have you ever had somebody tell
- 1:09Speaker 1: you that you don't know what you're talking about? And
- 1:12Speaker 1: you're trying to explain back, hey, look, I'm a political scientist.
- 1:15Speaker 1: What do you mean? I don't know what I'm talking about.
- 1:19Speaker 1: That kind of seems like what it was with him explaining,
- 1:23Speaker 1: you know, oh, I'm an engineer. I'm this, that, the
- 1:25Speaker 1: other thing. He's incredulous that nobody believes him or that
- 1:29Speaker 1: the police don't want to believe him. So he's out
- 1:31Speaker 1: there saying, hey, look, I'm not some quack. I'm an engineer.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I'm not out here trying to run my mouth for
- 1:38Speaker 1: no reason. But even the most educated people can be
- 1:45Speaker 1: wrong with who they see, especially in a situation like this.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Late at night, dude's wearing a bandana, you know. He
- 1:55Speaker 1: could have easily mistaken him for somebody else. But, according
- 2:00Speaker 1: to him, Mr. Davis, that's not the case. He's 100%
- 2:05Speaker 1: sure that this was Brian Laundrie. Now, we'll have to
- 2:10Speaker 1: see what comes of it. We'll have to see what
- 2:13Speaker 1: the investigators say, if there's any more sightings, and all
- 2:18Speaker 1: of the rest of it. But to just simply discount
- 2:22Speaker 1: it out of hand, because it's in the New York Post,
- 2:26Speaker 1: is kind of ridiculous in my opinion. And I see
- 2:29Speaker 1: a lot of people doing that, and you're doing yourself
- 2:32Speaker 1: a disservice. Trust but verify, right? And the New York Post, sure,
- 2:40Speaker 1: it has its tabloid aspects to it, no doubt about it.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Page Six, of course, is one of the world's greatest tabloids.
- 2:48Speaker 1: But as far as actual news, the New York Post...
- 2:52Speaker 1: you know, they actually post real news. It's not like
- 2:55Speaker 1: it's the Inquirer. Now, I'm not saying you should go
- 3:00Speaker 1: there and get your whole worldview from the New York Post.
- 3:04Speaker 1: My suggestion is read a bunch of different publications from
- 3:08Speaker 1: a bunch of different sides of the argument and try
- 3:12Speaker 1: and figure it out for yourself. But to simply ignore
- 3:16Speaker 1: it because, oh, it's the New York Post who has
- 3:18Speaker 1: reported it or the Daily Mail or is a little
- 3:22Speaker 1: bit silly in my opinion. And I have some facts
- 3:25Speaker 1: to back that up. During this Jeffrey Epstein ordeal, the
- 3:31Speaker 1: legacy media, all of these outlets that people want to champion,
- 3:36Speaker 1: all of these outlets that people try and put up
- 3:39Speaker 1: as the top source, a source that can't be beat. Well,
- 3:43Speaker 1: all of those outlets, they were busy protecting Jeffrey Epstein.
- 3:47Speaker 1: And those are facts. 2015, ABC quashed an interview that
- 3:55Speaker 1: Andy Robach had set up with Virginia Roberts because the
- 3:59Speaker 1: network was scared they'd lose access to Prince Andrew. For
- 4:05Speaker 1: years and years and years, they wrote puff pieces about
- 4:08Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, and have we forgotten weapons of mass destruction?
- 4:14Speaker 1: Didn't the New York Times march us right into Iraq? See,
- 4:17Speaker 1: my point is this. To just simply look at a
- 4:21Speaker 1: publication and say, oh, well, that publication, that's legit. And
- 4:26Speaker 1: then to look at a different one, maybe because you're
- 4:28Speaker 1: biased or whatever it is, and say, oh, yeah, that's garbage.
- 4:32Speaker 1: It doesn't serve you well. And it makes you kind
- 4:37Speaker 1: of get stuck in an echo chamber, which is certainly
- 4:40Speaker 1: not good. So my point is, places like the New
- 4:46Speaker 1: York Post, the Daily Mail... A lot of times when
- 4:49Speaker 1: it comes to stories like this, they get some pretty
- 4:52Speaker 1: good scoops. And if it wasn't for the places like
- 4:57Speaker 1: the New York Post, the Daily Mail, and others, the
- 5:01Speaker 1: whole entire situation you see with Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey
- 5:05Speaker 1: Epstein would nowhere near have the traction that it has.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Because while people from the legacy media were busy going
- 5:13Speaker 1: over to Jeffrey Epstein's house to break bread, to eat
- 5:17Speaker 1: food with them, to go to parties. Places like the
- 5:21Speaker 1: Daily Mail were still running stories on them. Places like
- 5:24Speaker 1: the New York Post were still running stories on them. So,
- 5:28Speaker 1: for me, the best method is, when it comes to
- 5:30Speaker 1: these publications and, you know, trying to decide what sources
- 5:36Speaker 1: are good, what sources aren't, I just dig in. and
- 5:41Speaker 1: then I read as much as I possibly can from
- 5:44Speaker 1: as many different varied sources as possible, then I make
- 5:47Speaker 1: my own decisions. Because we all know that with the media,
- 5:53Speaker 1: there's a lot of, you know, circular reporting. One outlet
- 5:58Speaker 1: reports something, then everybody just jumps on and piggybacks it
- 6:01Speaker 1: without verifying it or anything like that. So I guess
- 6:04Speaker 1: really the main point I'm making here is the state
- 6:07Speaker 1: of journalism as a whole is pretty shitty. And just
- 6:12Speaker 1: because this guy and his story is ran in the
- 6:16Speaker 1: New York Post, that doesn't automatically make it false. I mean,
- 6:22Speaker 1: just recently, look at some of the bombshells in the newspapers,
- 6:27Speaker 1: in the media about how bad the media is. So
- 6:33Speaker 1: when I see people just discount things out of hand,
- 6:36Speaker 1: I shake my head, especially with stuff like this. This
- 6:40Speaker 1: is a sighting of somebody. We don't know the veracity
- 6:43Speaker 1: of it one way or the other. And I'm not
- 6:45Speaker 1: sitting here saying, oh, this is 100% true. You have
- 6:48Speaker 1: to believe. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying
- 6:51Speaker 1: is I think it's a good idea to keep an
- 6:53Speaker 1: open mind. And when you have somebody who comes forward
- 6:58Speaker 1: with a sighting such as this man, I think it
- 7:01Speaker 1: should be taken seriously. This isn't some Yahoo with his
- 7:05Speaker 1: own news network in Bern, North Carolina. Now, this guy
- 7:10Speaker 1: might be crazy. I don't know him personally. I'm not
- 7:13Speaker 1: going to sit here and vouch for him or, you know,
- 7:16Speaker 1: go all in and say this really happened. Because guess what?
- 7:19Speaker 1: I do not know. But it is worthy of discussion.
- 7:22Speaker 1: And to see people act like it's not worthy of discussion,
- 7:25Speaker 1: at the very least, is mind boggling to me. Because
- 7:29Speaker 1: I am convinced at this point, folks, the way that
- 7:31Speaker 1: Brian Laundrie is going to be captured is one of
- 7:34Speaker 1: you are going to stumble onto him. One of the
- 7:37Speaker 1: people in the populace is going to bump into him somewhere.
- 7:41Speaker 1: That's how all of these guys are captured. What do
- 7:43Speaker 1: you think, the FBI's creeping through the bushes looking for people?
- 7:47Speaker 1: Whitey Bulger was on the run for a bazillion years. Well,
- 7:49Speaker 1: he was also an FBI informant, but I won't digress.
- 7:53Speaker 1: There are people who have been on the run forever,
- 7:56Speaker 1: hiding right in plain sight. And we all know how
- 8:00Speaker 1: the news cycle is in America. This won't be hot forever.
- 8:05Speaker 1: And once it starts to blow over a little bit...
- 8:08Speaker 1: You know... Guy who's on the run... If he's able
- 8:11Speaker 1: to stay on the run and not get caught... Might
- 8:13Speaker 1: get a little bit more brazen, right? So... I think
- 8:18Speaker 1: that when tips like this come in... From somebody who
- 8:21Speaker 1: has a pretty decent... You know, resume... A credible resume
- 8:25Speaker 1: as a professional... Somebody who... Could, you know... Face some penalties... professionally,
- 8:33Speaker 1: if he looks like a quack weirdo, I think that
- 8:36Speaker 1: this guy has a little bit more to lose than
- 8:39Speaker 1: someone trying to get some clicks on their website or something.
- 8:42Speaker 1: So again, I'm not saying for sure that this dude's
- 8:45Speaker 1: story is legit, that it's definitely Brian Laundrie. I don't know.
- 8:50Speaker 1: I wasn't there. But I will say this, when I
- 8:55Speaker 1: was thinking about the state of mind that this person
- 8:57Speaker 1: was in, and frazzled, not knowing where he was going really,
- 9:02Speaker 1: you got to think that it takes a mental toll
- 9:05Speaker 1: being on the run. And you have to think that
- 9:07Speaker 1: it takes a mental toll knowing what you did. So
- 9:13Speaker 1: him being all frazzled and kind of out of sorts
- 9:17Speaker 1: kind of fits the picture of somebody who's on the run,
- 9:20Speaker 1: especially freshly on the run like this, still trying to
- 9:23Speaker 1: figure out how to be a fugitive. So I really
- 9:29Speaker 1: hope that the investigators take a look at what's going
- 9:32Speaker 1: on down here, and I hope that they're chasing all
- 9:36Speaker 1: of these credible leads. Now, as far as all the
- 9:45Speaker 1: other stuff surrounding it, how he got up there, look,
- 9:51Speaker 1: it is easy to get a car if you know
- 9:52Speaker 1: what you're doing, and I don't mean hot wiring one either.
- 9:55Speaker 1: I know here in Las Vegas, a couple miles from
- 9:59Speaker 1: my house, I can go buy a car cash in
- 10:04Speaker 1: many different places, no questions asked. So maybe that happened?
- 10:11Speaker 1: I highly doubt old boy hot wired a car and
- 10:13Speaker 1: he's driving something that's hot. That would be the stupidest
- 10:15Speaker 1: move ever. If you're trying to move from state to
- 10:18Speaker 1: state in a hot vehicle, the last thing you need
- 10:21Speaker 1: is some trooper getting behind you, running your plates and
- 10:24Speaker 1: having that shit come back hot. Last thing you want.
- 10:27Speaker 1: So my thought is if he has a vehicle, it
- 10:32Speaker 1: was purchased from somebody legally. Now, does he have a vehicle?
- 10:38Speaker 1: I don't know. But it wouldn't be smart to drive
- 10:44Speaker 1: a hot vehicle across the country. Never mind in-state, but
- 10:49Speaker 1: you're trying to drive across the country. Inevitably, you're going
- 10:52Speaker 1: to have a trooper pull up behind you at some
- 10:55Speaker 1: point and clip your plates. Now, maybe that's why he
- 11:00Speaker 1: was trying to roll them back roads, too. Again, there's
- 11:02Speaker 1: a lot we do not know, but there's a lot
- 11:05Speaker 1: that could be. And if this has legs and this
- 11:11Speaker 1: is a good, solid lead, then... Who knows what comes
- 11:18Speaker 1: of it? Now, again, there's always the chance and probably
- 11:24Speaker 1: a good chance that he didn't see Brian Laundrie. He
- 11:29Speaker 1: saw somebody else. And that's cool, too. But the investigators
- 11:34Speaker 1: have to take a look. Them ghosting him is not
- 11:39Speaker 1: really cool, in my opinion. And I know they're getting
- 11:41Speaker 1: a lot of leads and stuff. But as an investigator...
- 11:45Speaker 1: You have to kind of prioritize those leads and look
- 11:48Speaker 1: at the sources and who's giving you those leads. And
- 11:51Speaker 1: then follow those leads as, you know, which ones are
- 11:55Speaker 1: from the most credible of sources, right? You want to
- 11:58Speaker 1: utilize your time and your resources correctly as an investigator.
- 12:02Speaker 1: You're already behind the eight ball because they let this
- 12:04Speaker 1: dude slip away. So now time is definitely of the essence.
- 12:09Speaker 1: They can't leave any lead unturned here or uncovered. So
- 12:16Speaker 1: you would think that they would prioritize all the leads
- 12:19Speaker 1: that they get and chase down the most important ones. Now,
- 12:25Speaker 1: I guess that's how things would work in a perfect world.
- 12:28Speaker 1: But we all know we don't live in a perfect world.
- 12:30Speaker 1: And we all know that we certainly do not have
- 12:35Speaker 1: a perfect justice system. It's broken. It's broken. And I
- 12:43Speaker 1: don't even think it can be repaired. It's really going
- 12:48Speaker 1: to come down to, in my opinion, finding him. It's
- 12:51Speaker 1: really going to come down to a tip from the public.
- 12:54Speaker 1: He'll slip up eventually, if he hasn't already. And then
- 12:58Speaker 1: he'll get nailed by the public. Somebody will see his
- 13:00Speaker 1: ass creeping into one of these little stores to do
- 13:03Speaker 1: a re-up. And somebody will get hip to it. Or
- 13:08Speaker 1: he'll make a mistake out in the wilderness. Somebody will
- 13:11Speaker 1: see him. And he'll eventually get caught. Now, I have
- 13:15Speaker 1: no idea when. It might be tomorrow. It might be
- 13:17Speaker 1: in 10 months from now. Until we have more of
- 13:20Speaker 1: an idea what sort of equipment he has, if he
- 13:24Speaker 1: has a vehicle, you know, until we have those sorts
- 13:27Speaker 1: of details, we're all in the world of complete speculation.
- 13:32Speaker 1: But at least now, with this story at the very least,
- 13:37Speaker 1: there is a little bit of they're there. Meaning, a witness...
- 13:42Speaker 1: who says that they saw Brian Laundrie. And in my mind,
- 13:46Speaker 1: that's a better lead and tip than we've seen so far.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Certainly better than the Carlton Reserve, folks, or DeSoto Campground.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Nobody's hanging out at DeSoto Campground right now. No fugitives,
- 13:59Speaker 1: maybe a couple of homeless dudes, or we're trying to
- 14:01Speaker 1: have a nice little sunset view. Certainly no fugitives are
- 14:05Speaker 1: hanging out at DeSoto, drinking Monster, wearing flip-flops at a campfire.
- 14:11Speaker 1: looking at the stars with their friends, telling stories about,
- 14:15Speaker 1: you know, the Haunted Manor. You want to talk about fake?
- 14:22Speaker 1: You want to talk about zero chance of being real?
- 14:25Speaker 1: In my mind, that is a waste of resources. Brian
- 14:32Speaker 1: is a runner, folks. And what do runners do? They run.
- 14:36Speaker 1: He ran after Gabby. He ran after from the police,
- 14:42Speaker 1: and he's still running now. This isn't the kind of
- 14:46Speaker 1: guy that's going to stop and try and set up roots,
- 14:48Speaker 1: set up shop. In my opinion, he's going to keep
- 14:51Speaker 1: it moving. And where, though, I have no idea. Look,
- 14:56Speaker 1: easily the Appalachian region could be a place where you
- 14:59Speaker 1: could exist and inhabit and do it comfortably almost. But
- 15:07Speaker 1: if it was me, I'd be looking to get out west,
- 15:09Speaker 1: the southwest somewhere, where the winter is mild as hell,
- 15:12Speaker 1: and there's mask mandates from state line to state line.
- 15:18Speaker 1: And once you start getting out to the southwest, look,
- 15:21Speaker 1: there are serious transient populations out here. Nobody pays attention
- 15:27Speaker 1: to anybody, especially in Las Vegas. Now, obviously, I'm not
- 15:31Speaker 1: saying he's coming here. But I mean, on the west
- 15:33Speaker 1: coast in general... would be the way to go if
- 15:37Speaker 1: it was me. Now again, remember, according to this contact
- 15:42Speaker 1: with this man down here on the Appalachian Trail, supposedly,
- 15:45Speaker 1: he's frazzled. He's out of sorts. So if somebody's frazzled
- 15:49Speaker 1: and out of sorts, that would make you think that
- 15:52Speaker 1: they're eventually going to slip up. And if his mental
- 15:57Speaker 1: state has deteriorated to this point, then that slip up
- 16:01Speaker 1: might be coming real soon. So I really, really, really
- 16:11Speaker 1: am interested to see where this lead goes and what
- 16:14Speaker 1: the authorities say or do about it. Now, we don't know.
- 16:19Speaker 1: The authorities might already be acting on this, right? This
- 16:23Speaker 1: article might have come out. And you know how the
- 16:25Speaker 1: authorities are. Once they get a little spotlight on them
- 16:27Speaker 1: from the media, it's, oh, yeah, well, we better get
- 16:30Speaker 1: into action. You know, they have to be prodded every
- 16:33Speaker 1: now and then. So perhaps that's going to be the
- 16:36Speaker 1: case here. I don't know. But one thing I will say,
- 16:40Speaker 1: discounting the tip out of hand because it's from the
- 16:44Speaker 1: New York Post, I think is folly. And I certainly
- 16:47Speaker 1: won't be doing that here on this podcast. Now, don't
- 16:50Speaker 1: get me wrong. We're not going to talk about every
- 16:53Speaker 1: single lead that's, you know, every sighting of Brian. But
- 16:58Speaker 1: this one just struck me. And even as I was
- 17:02Speaker 1: laying in bed last night after the Penn State football game,
- 17:06Speaker 1: I'm laying in bed and I'm thinking about this more
- 17:08Speaker 1: and more. And I'm saying to myself, man, this shit
- 17:11Speaker 1: feels like, to me anyway, it feels like it has legs. Now,
- 17:15Speaker 1: I'm not bought in 100%. But when I sit here
- 17:18Speaker 1: and I think about the route that this dude would
- 17:21Speaker 1: be going, knowing that the trail system in America is
- 17:26Speaker 1: amazingly large, and knowing he had this head start, it's
- 17:31Speaker 1: likely that he's nowhere near Florida at this point. So
- 17:37Speaker 1: as I lay there in bed thinking about the story,
- 17:39Speaker 1: tossing it around in my mind, I thought that I'd
- 17:42Speaker 1: hop on today and we'd talk a little bit more
- 17:44Speaker 1: about it. And I'd add a little bit more context
- 17:47Speaker 1: about my opinion. Because out of all of these leads
- 17:50Speaker 1: we've had so far, as far as the public anyway,
- 17:53Speaker 1: I think that this one is by far the best. Now, again,
- 17:58Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's true. That doesn't mean that 100%
- 18:02Speaker 1: this guy saw Brian Laundrie. We don't know that. And
- 18:06Speaker 1: I just want to make that very clear. But I
- 18:09Speaker 1: just have one of those weird feelings, folks, that this is,
- 18:12Speaker 1: out of everything we have heard, that this one is
- 18:15Speaker 1: the most legit. And that this guy, look, he's 100%
- 18:18Speaker 1: sure that he saw Brian Laundrie. Now he might be mistaken,
- 18:23Speaker 1: but to outright call him a liar without anyone investigating
- 18:27Speaker 1: it is ridiculous. And I'm certainly not going to do that.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Let's see what comes of it, right? You know, if
- 18:34Speaker 1: it gets debunked, then fine, it gets debunked. We keep
- 18:37Speaker 1: it moving. But what does it hurt to take 20
- 18:40Speaker 1: minutes to talk about it? To try and dissect the
- 18:45Speaker 1: situation and also make people aware. Look, what if he
- 18:50Speaker 1: is moving that way? Even if there's a slight chance
- 18:53Speaker 1: he's moving through that part of the country, people down
- 18:55Speaker 1: there should be aware to have their eyes out. To
- 18:59Speaker 1: be ready to, you know, see something, say something. Because
- 19:03Speaker 1: you never know. And if he is, you know, taking
- 19:07Speaker 1: these back roads and there's a lot of little town
- 19:09Speaker 1: and country stores that he might be popping into, etc., etc.
- 19:14Speaker 1: So I'm very interested to see where this lead goes, folks.
- 19:17Speaker 1: And I am very, very interested to see what law
- 19:20Speaker 1: enforcement has to say and what comes from this. Now, again,
- 19:24Speaker 1: it might go nowhere. It might fizzle out on the
- 19:26Speaker 1: vine and it might be garbage. But I'm not just
- 19:29Speaker 1: going to discount it out of hand. And... While the
- 19:33Speaker 1: New York Post isn't, you know, the pinnacle of in-depth
- 19:39Speaker 1: great reporting, they most certainly aren't somebody that's running around
- 19:43Speaker 1: talking about Bigfoots and Chupacabras on a regular basis either.
- 19:48Speaker 1: So I'm gonna wait and see what comes of this
- 19:50Speaker 1: this lead here and i'm going to keep my eyes
- 19:54Speaker 1: on this whole entire story because i feel like it's
- 19:58Speaker 1: very very interesting that this man would be this sure
- 20:05Speaker 1: that he saw brian laundry and again When I look
- 20:09Speaker 1: at the overall picture, I'm looking at, is this a
- 20:11Speaker 1: credible witness? Well, you look at his resume and what
- 20:14Speaker 1: he has accomplished professionally, and I know that doesn't mean nothing,
- 20:18Speaker 1: you know, in the long run. But at first glance,
- 20:21Speaker 1: you have to try and build a profile. Is this
- 20:23Speaker 1: an honest guy? Is this guy bullshitting? Is he looking
- 20:25Speaker 1: for clout? And he doesn't fit any of those categories,
- 20:30Speaker 1: in my opinion. This is a business professional who really believes,
- 20:35Speaker 1: in his mind anyway, that he saw Brian Laundrie. So
- 20:38Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes and where it goes. But
- 20:42Speaker 1: as of now, I feel like this is the most
- 20:44Speaker 1: credible lead we have had so far. All right, folks.
- 20:49Speaker 1: So we're also going to be talking about Moab in
- 20:55Speaker 1: general in the next episode. There's a pretty decent article
- 20:59Speaker 1: that came out about the cloud that's hanging over Moab
- 21:03Speaker 1: right now. And It's one of the reasons that I
- 21:06Speaker 1: was interested in this story in the first place. As
- 21:08Speaker 1: an outdoorsman, a backpacker, a hiker, a climber, I feel
- 21:12Speaker 1: like this is a personal affront to our community. And
- 21:17Speaker 1: you start seeing these articles now about Moab and the
- 21:21Speaker 1: dark side of van life. And I knew it was
- 21:24Speaker 1: inevitable to try and cast that kind of light on
- 21:27Speaker 1: the whole community now. And that was the thing that
- 21:31Speaker 1: drew me to this at first because this was somebody
- 21:33Speaker 1: from my community acting like this. And it's gross and
- 21:39Speaker 1: it's disgusting and it brings a negative stigma to a
- 21:43Speaker 1: great beautiful place like Moab. So we're going to talk
- 21:46Speaker 1: about that a little bit later and we're going to
- 21:50Speaker 1: dive into the stigma that is hanging over Moab right now.
- 21:55Speaker 1: And look, the place is beautiful. The people are beautiful.
- 21:59Speaker 1: But the cops obviously shit the bed. And with all
- 22:02Speaker 1: of the other things that are going on around there.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Something must be done. And for somebody who is very
- 22:08Speaker 1: familiar with the area. Somebody who goes up there a lot.
- 22:11Speaker 1: There needs to be action taken. Because it's a beautiful place.
- 22:16Speaker 1: That should not have this kind of stigma. Hanging over it.
- 22:20Speaker 1: So we're going to get into all of that as well.
- 22:22Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a couple of other missing
- 22:24Speaker 1: people as well. And we'll continue with our updates. Now.
- 22:29Speaker 1: There's a whole ton of things going on as far
- 22:32Speaker 1: as live streams and all of that still. I'm not
- 22:36Speaker 1: going to... Again, I've had a couple of emails again
- 22:39Speaker 1: about that. I'm not going to get involved in all
- 22:40Speaker 1: the live streaming. I don't really feel it's necessary. These
- 22:43Speaker 1: couple of 20-minute episodes a day, plenty. So if you'd
- 22:47Speaker 1: like to hit me up, though, feel free to do
- 22:49Speaker 1: that by emailing me, finding me on Twitter, Instagram, whatever
- 22:53Speaker 1: it may be. So with that said, folks, I hope
- 22:56Speaker 1: everybody enjoys their Sunday. And... We'll pick it back up
- 23:00Speaker 1: later on. We'll figure out where we're at. We'll take
- 23:03Speaker 1: a look at the story, and we'll continue to pull
- 23:05Speaker 1: on these threads and see where it goes. All right, folks,
- 23:10Speaker 1: if you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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- 23:34Speaker 1: all have a great Sunday morning, and I will talk
- 23:37Speaker 1: to you all later on. What's up everyone, and welcome
- 23:42Speaker 1: to another episode of Beyond the Horizon. I appreciate you
- 23:46Speaker 1: all joining me this morning for another look at the
- 23:50Speaker 1: murder of Gabby Petito, and now the manhunt for Brian Laundrie. Hey,
- 23:57Speaker 1: what's going on, everybody? Hope you're all having a great
- 23:59Speaker 1: morning out there. Today, we're going to dive right back in, folks.
- 24:04Speaker 1: And we're going to take a look at the unfolding
- 24:07Speaker 1: situation as it evolves in real time. Okay, so where
- 24:14Speaker 1: are we right now? As of right now, we have
- 24:18Speaker 1: the timeline starting to fall into place. And for my money,
- 24:25Speaker 1: that is one of the most crucial and important things
- 24:28Speaker 1: that could happen. And if you're an investigator, I'm sure
- 24:32Speaker 1: that the timeline is the blueprint that they're looking for
- 24:36Speaker 1: as well. Because without that, you can't have context. You
- 24:40Speaker 1: can't have a proper way of knowing what happened when, right?
- 24:46Speaker 1: So it's crucial to have a proper timeline. Now, up
- 24:49Speaker 1: until yesterday, when we got confirmation from Steve Bertolini... about
- 24:54Speaker 1: the cell phone purchase, it was being said that that
- 24:57Speaker 1: phone was purchased on the 14th. Now, that wouldn't make
- 25:02Speaker 1: very much sense, would it? Considering that's the day he
- 25:07Speaker 1: supposedly went missing, so that never really jived with me
- 25:12Speaker 1: from the jump. Obviously, that was the timeline that was
- 25:16Speaker 1: being pushed, so you have to go off of what
- 25:20Speaker 1: the timeline was at that point. But with that being
- 25:24Speaker 1: adjusted from the 14th to the 4th, it really opens
- 25:29Speaker 1: up a whole lot of escape routes for this guy.
- 25:34Speaker 1: And certainly gives him a ton of time to get
- 25:37Speaker 1: on the run. Now, that said, he could be in
- 25:41Speaker 1: that swamp dead. Very possible. I have certainly not ruled
- 25:46Speaker 1: that out. In fact, I haven't ruled anything out in
- 25:49Speaker 1: this case, to be honest with you. It's such a
- 25:52Speaker 1: fluid moving situation with so much information pouring in all
- 25:56Speaker 1: the time that I feel like you have to be
- 25:58Speaker 1: able to blow with wherever the investigation is leading. And remember,
- 26:02Speaker 1: we're only privy to what's out there in the public.
- 26:08Speaker 1: I know it's easy to say, oh man, the FBI
- 26:12Speaker 1: really don't know what the fuck they're doing here. And
- 26:14Speaker 1: I get it. I am not a huge fan either,
- 26:17Speaker 1: as we've established already. But they definitely know more than
- 26:21Speaker 1: we do. They definitely have things going on behind the scenes...
- 26:24Speaker 1: That we're not privy to. So... I would think that
- 26:30Speaker 1: the FBI opening up the tip line... And asking for
- 26:34Speaker 1: help from the population... Is a big red flag... That
- 26:40Speaker 1: they really don't have any idea where this dude is.
- 26:43Speaker 1: And the more I think about it, folks... the more
- 26:46Speaker 1: I'm convinced that he'd be able to dip, duck, and
- 26:50Speaker 1: dodge with a mask on. Mask, hat, pair of shades,
- 26:53Speaker 1: we all look the same. And if that's the case,
- 26:59Speaker 1: forget the Appalachian Trail. Dude could go anywhere. Why would
- 27:03Speaker 1: you go up there where it's going to be cold
- 27:05Speaker 1: if you could just head out west? Now again, I'm
- 27:08Speaker 1: not saying that's what he did. I have no idea.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Like I've told you folks from the beginning, I have
- 27:13Speaker 1: no clue where this guy is. certainly not going to
- 27:17Speaker 1: sit here and make pretend that I do. There's enough
- 27:19Speaker 1: of that going on, right? I don't have any monster
- 27:22Speaker 1: can and flip-flop leads for you folks, unfortunately. I'm just
- 27:27Speaker 1: trying to put the pieces together that are available to us.
- 27:33Speaker 1: And it certainly looks to me like this whole entire
- 27:38Speaker 1: timeline is going to be a crucial part in doing that. Now,
- 27:47Speaker 1: even if he, say he did come home from the
- 27:49Speaker 1: camping trip with his family, that still gives him from
- 27:53Speaker 1: the 11th until the 17th, which is a six-day head start.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Add the fourth to that, and boy, we're talking a
- 28:05Speaker 1: serious head start, almost a two-week head start. Now, I
- 28:12Speaker 1: highly doubt he'd be hitchhiking at this point, But previously,
- 28:16Speaker 1: who knows? Again, there is so much that we do
- 28:21Speaker 1: not know that it's hard to, you know, really piece
- 28:25Speaker 1: things together until all of these blanks start to be
- 28:28Speaker 1: filled in. But one thing is certainly for sure. I
- 28:33Speaker 1: don't buy the story that his parents are pitching about
- 28:36Speaker 1: him going to that reserve to go on a camping trip.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I mean, on a hiking trip. I don't buy it
- 28:41Speaker 1: for a second. And I truly believe that that that
- 28:45Speaker 1: was some sort of okey-doke. Perhaps, like I was talking
- 28:51Speaker 1: about earlier, he went there to throw away some evidence
- 28:54Speaker 1: or something to lead the police on a little bit
- 28:56Speaker 1: of a merry chase to give him even more of
- 28:59Speaker 1: a lead. That's very possible. But I never for a
- 29:03Speaker 1: minute thought he was going to post up in that swamp.
- 29:05Speaker 1: And I certainly don't think he's hanging out at Del Soto.
- 29:08Speaker 1: The place is hugely popular. So I highly doubt that.
- 29:14Speaker 1: And in Florida, remember, not everybody's wearing masks. So if
- 29:17Speaker 1: I was this guy, I would be trying to get
- 29:19Speaker 1: to someplace where everybody's wearing a mask. Now, is he
- 29:25Speaker 1: doing that? Who knows? We certainly have no clue for
- 29:29Speaker 1: sure one way or the other. But logic dictates that
- 29:32Speaker 1: you're going to try and give yourself as good of
- 29:35Speaker 1: a chance as possible to stay undetected, right? I mean,
- 29:42Speaker 1: why run in the first place? To me, Brian seems
- 29:45Speaker 1: like a runner, folks. Not somebody that, you know, sets
- 29:48Speaker 1: down roots. I don't feel like wherever he is, if
- 29:51Speaker 1: he's out in the wilderness, I don't think he has
- 29:53Speaker 1: like a campsite set up. I think he's moving every day,
- 29:57Speaker 1: trying to put miles between him and the investigation. And
- 30:02Speaker 1: that is all based on if he's actually alive, right?
- 30:05Speaker 1: Because if he's not on the run, he's certainly not
- 30:09Speaker 1: hiding out in that swamp, at least not in my opinion.
- 30:11Speaker 1: So if he is on the run, you would think
- 30:13Speaker 1: that he's trying to get as far away from this
- 30:16Speaker 1: investigation as possible, put distance between himself and the people
- 30:21Speaker 1: that are looking for him in this search area. And
- 30:25Speaker 1: to try and lay low for a little while. And
- 30:29Speaker 1: when you're on the run. Staying in one spot is
- 30:32Speaker 1: never a good idea. So if I was this dude.
- 30:36Speaker 1: I would keep moving. There are so many trails that
- 30:38Speaker 1: connect this country. And with the face mask situation. He
- 30:43Speaker 1: could easily go in for a resupply. Even here in
- 30:47Speaker 1: Vegas folks. They don't make you take your face mask off.
- 30:50Speaker 1: To show ID or anything. To go into the casinos.
- 30:53Speaker 1: Nothing like that. So when I started thinking about it
- 30:58Speaker 1: and the face mask issue added on top of it,
- 31:00Speaker 1: it really seems like this guy has a serious leg up.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Even if he's not a great survivalist or anything like that. Now,
- 31:11Speaker 1: he'll still have to do some foraging and shit, there's
- 31:13Speaker 1: no doubt, if he's going to keep moving. But he'll
- 31:16Speaker 1: be able to hit some stores, of that I have
- 31:18Speaker 1: no doubt, with the mask on and all of that,
- 31:23Speaker 1: easily would be able to hide who he is, keep
- 31:27Speaker 1: a low profile, do a re-up, and get back onto
- 31:30Speaker 1: the trail. Of course, this is all assuming that he
- 31:37Speaker 1: actually got out of that swamp. Because, again, I go
- 31:41Speaker 1: back and forth. Ah, he's dead in that swamp. Then
- 31:43Speaker 1: I say, well, where are the vultures? He's got to
- 31:46Speaker 1: be on the run. Then I'm like, oh, he's on
- 31:48Speaker 1: the run, but that swamp, there are so many resources.
- 31:51Speaker 1: So it's you know, an everyday back and forth thing.
- 31:56Speaker 1: But the further we get away from them originally announcing
- 31:59Speaker 1: the swamp situation, the more and more I believe that
- 32:03Speaker 1: he is on the run, alive, and looking to evade. Now,
- 32:10Speaker 1: there's been some reported sightings of him in North Carolina.
- 32:13Speaker 1: There's some articles, but none of that has been founded.
- 32:16Speaker 1: None of that has been corroborated. And in fact, the
- 32:19Speaker 1: sheriff himself said that there is nothing tangible there. No
- 32:24Speaker 1: sort of leads that they're working on or anything like that. So, okay.
- 32:30Speaker 1: The only sightings that we have so far is at
- 32:33Speaker 1: this campsite. That after that, nobody has seen anything of
- 32:38Speaker 1: Brian Laundrie. To me, that's very concerning. You would think
- 32:44Speaker 1: that Somebody had put eyes on him if he had
- 32:47Speaker 1: come back to that house. Somebody had seen him. But
- 32:50Speaker 1: that's not the case, at least as far as we
- 32:53Speaker 1: know so far. The FBI might have other information that
- 32:57Speaker 1: they have not released about, you know, oh, yeah, we've
- 32:59Speaker 1: seen him. We know exactly where he was, what he
- 33:01Speaker 1: was doing. We've been tracking his movements. That all might
- 33:04Speaker 1: come out. But until it does, we got to operate with,
- 33:08Speaker 1: you know, one eye open here and understand that the
- 33:12Speaker 1: FBI is fallible. Those are human beings who are in
- 33:15Speaker 1: those positions and they do make mistakes. So to just
- 33:22Speaker 1: rely and say, oh, well, the FBI has it all
- 33:24Speaker 1: under control. I think that's a bit naive. And we've
- 33:30Speaker 1: seen it time and time again with FBI investigations. So
- 33:35Speaker 1: while I do think they have obviously a lot more
- 33:37Speaker 1: than they're sharing with the public, that doesn't mean they
- 33:40Speaker 1: have it all figured out. Now, there was a huge
- 33:49Speaker 1: confusion session over the phone, the purchase of the phone.
- 33:54Speaker 1: And now that that has been locked in, I think
- 33:57Speaker 1: that we're going to start to see this timeline really, really,
- 33:59Speaker 1: really fill in, folks. So, we also have an issue
- 34:05Speaker 1: over in the National Park Services, by the way, of
- 34:09Speaker 1: people trying to get a... information from them about the
- 34:17Speaker 1: situation that occurred, and they've absolutely been stonewalled. So, the
- 34:22Speaker 1: National Park Service, they have denied two requests for public
- 34:25Speaker 1: records filed by the news station KSL. And they're looking
- 34:29Speaker 1: for Freedom of Information Act information, and they're in connection
- 34:33Speaker 1: with the disappearance of Gabby. So... The park responded with
- 34:39Speaker 1: some letters, and they said that they could not give
- 34:42Speaker 1: that data over because it interfered with enforcement proceedings. Now,
- 34:48Speaker 1: that's pretty common. When there's an investigation that's ongoing, that's
- 34:53Speaker 1: what the feds will say. Oh, we can't turn this
- 34:57Speaker 1: information over. We have an ongoing investigation. We've been dealing
- 35:02Speaker 1: with the Jeffrey Epstein case forever now. When Epstein was
- 35:06Speaker 1: killed or killed himself in jail, there has been an
- 35:10Speaker 1: absolute blackout on information of what led up to that.
- 35:16Speaker 1: Cameras were broke. People fell asleep. I'm not going to
- 35:18Speaker 1: get into the whole story, but we've run into the
- 35:21Speaker 1: same roadblocks with the Freedom of Information Act, and it's brutal. Now,
- 35:25Speaker 1: the National Park Service is notorious for not giving out
- 35:30Speaker 1: any information about people who go missing within the park
- 35:34Speaker 1: service itself. I think the number is roughly around 1,800
- 35:39Speaker 1: people who have gone missing in national parks that have
- 35:42Speaker 1: been documented. It's a pretty staggering number. But most of
- 35:47Speaker 1: those issues are people going missing due to they get injured, lost,
- 35:52Speaker 1: then they die of exposure... or they have a heart attack,
- 35:55Speaker 1: you know, something like that. But the national park service,
- 35:59Speaker 1: they play it real close to the vest. They never,
- 36:02Speaker 1: ever for the most part, uh, turn over these freedom
- 36:06Speaker 1: of information act requests. So it doesn't shock me to
- 36:09Speaker 1: see that they didn't turn it over here either. Um,
- 36:13Speaker 1: both of these were filed last week after the arrest
- 36:17Speaker 1: warrant was, uh, uh, attained for Brian laundry. And, uh,
- 36:22Speaker 1: I'm sure that they'll continue to try and get some
- 36:24Speaker 1: of this information, maybe different requests, stuff like that. But
- 36:28Speaker 1: as of now, the National Park Service and the ISP,
- 36:32Speaker 1: which is their investigation branch inside of the national parks,
- 36:38Speaker 1: they're not saying a word. And I wouldn't expect them
- 36:42Speaker 1: to cough up any information, to be honest with you.
- 36:48Speaker 1: I'll post a link to the article where I found
- 36:50Speaker 1: that information as well. And you can check it out
- 36:53Speaker 1: for yourself if you'd like. Now today, we're going to
- 36:57Speaker 1: jump into an article from the New York Post. And
- 37:01Speaker 1: it's an article that has to do with the changing
- 37:06Speaker 1: of the camping reservations. Now, when we talked about this yesterday,
- 37:12Speaker 1: I wasn't too sure if it was legit or not
- 37:14Speaker 1: from the source I was hearing it from. Well, it
- 37:17Speaker 1: looks like that source was bang on, which is good
- 37:20Speaker 1: moving forward because that means I can trust what they
- 37:22Speaker 1: say and at least have, you know, a little bit
- 37:26Speaker 1: of confidence in what I'm hearing from them. So that's good.
- 37:30Speaker 1: But let's jump into this article from the New York
- 37:32Speaker 1: Post and let's add a little more context, a little
- 37:36Speaker 1: more meat to the bone, if you will. The headline,
- 37:40Speaker 1: Brian Laundrie's mom reportedly changed camping reservations before he returned home.
- 37:46Speaker 1: The author of this article is Yaron Steinbuch. Missing fugitive
- 37:52Speaker 1: Brian Laundrie's mother reportedly canceled Florida camping reservations for two
- 37:56Speaker 1: people the day before he returned to his parents' home
- 38:00Speaker 1: without Gabby Petito, and then she made new reservations for
- 38:04Speaker 1: three people. How in the hell do you justify that
- 38:08Speaker 1: as a parent or just as a human being? Ah,
- 38:11Speaker 1: my son's coming home without his fiancée who's lived here
- 38:13Speaker 1: for two and a half years. We're just going to
- 38:15Speaker 1: make some camping reservations for us to go without her.
- 38:20Speaker 1: It doesn't jive. Now, again, that doesn't mean that the
- 38:23Speaker 1: parents are guilty of a crime for that action, but
- 38:26Speaker 1: it makes them reprehensible people at the very least, no?
- 38:32Speaker 1: On August 24th, Roberto Laundrie made reservations for two at
- 38:36Speaker 1: the Soto Park Campground in St. Petersburg between September 1st
- 38:40Speaker 1: and 3rd, but changed them on August 31st for three
- 38:44Speaker 1: people for the weekend of September 6th through the 8th,
- 38:47Speaker 1: according to documents obtained by Fox News. Now, what's significant
- 38:52Speaker 1: about this here for me and what's going to be
- 38:54Speaker 1: a big tell is, is there surveillance of this truck
- 38:59Speaker 1: leaving for a significant amount of time while it was
- 39:03Speaker 1: at the park? So, did it leave for 8, 10, 12,
- 39:08Speaker 1: 14 hours and then come back to the park? If
- 39:11Speaker 1: it did, where did it go? Who was in the truck?
- 39:15Speaker 1: Was somebody taking Brian someplace to get a head start? Again,
- 39:19Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, but these are questions that
- 39:21Speaker 1: most certainly have to be asked. Especially considering all of
- 39:25Speaker 1: the circumstances surrounding this, and the big kicker for me,
- 39:30Speaker 1: besides the timeline falling into place is the fact that
- 39:34Speaker 1: the cops have said they haven't laid eyes on this
- 39:36Speaker 1: clown so here we all are thinking that you know
- 39:41Speaker 1: he's at this house meanwhile old boys already hit the
- 39:44Speaker 1: skids and he's gone Her 23-year-old son, who has been
- 39:51Speaker 1: named by police as a person of interest in Petito's death,
- 39:55Speaker 1: returned to his parents' Northport home in Florida on September
- 39:59Speaker 1: 1st in her 2012 Ford Transit van. The Laundries, who
- 40:04Speaker 1: listed their Dodge pickup truck on the reservation form, checked
- 40:07Speaker 1: in at the site on September 6th and checked out
- 40:10Speaker 1: two days later, the network reported, citing other documents it
- 40:14Speaker 1: has obtained. Now look, again, this is speculation on my part.
- 40:18Speaker 1: But wouldn't it be a great plan if you're looking
- 40:22Speaker 1: to get your kid out of Dodge? Let's set up
- 40:24Speaker 1: this camping trip. We'll act like we're here camping. Meanwhile,
- 40:29Speaker 1: I'll shuttle you somewhere else a little closer to your destination.
- 40:33Speaker 1: You can split. And then we got our alibi all
- 40:35Speaker 1: set up by saying you disappeared on a hiking trip afterwards.
- 40:41Speaker 1: But it sure looks like a quality plan. A shrewd plan.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Why else would they go camping from the 6th through
- 40:51Speaker 1: the 8th? I need a logical answer for that. And
- 40:55Speaker 1: if one is presented, I am certainly willing to change
- 40:59Speaker 1: the way I'm thinking here, but it really seems to
- 41:04Speaker 1: me that this would be the perfect time to get
- 41:06Speaker 1: out of Dodge if that's what you're looking to do. Now,
- 41:10Speaker 1: of course, this is all hinged on the fact that
- 41:12Speaker 1: nobody has seen him at the house, according to the police.
- 41:17Speaker 1: If we have confirmation that he actually was there, well,
- 41:20Speaker 1: then this goes out the window and we'll have to,
- 41:22Speaker 1: you know, think about another option perhaps. But until then,
- 41:26Speaker 1: this seems like a very, very, very viable situation, a
- 41:29Speaker 1: very viable option. And if I was going to try
- 41:33Speaker 1: and run, this would be a great jump off point.
- 41:36Speaker 1: You're 75 miles closer north, right? A little closer to
- 41:40Speaker 1: getting out of Florida. And it's the perfect cover for
- 41:43Speaker 1: your parents. We were on a camping trip. What do
- 41:46Speaker 1: you mean? A person who used to work at Civic Plus,
- 41:54Speaker 1: a software company that manages the Fort DeSoto campgrounds reservation system,
- 41:59Speaker 1: told Fox News on a condition of anonymity that he
- 42:02Speaker 1: believed the Laundries may have known their son was coming
- 42:04Speaker 1: home August 31st and made the changes to their reservations. Well,
- 42:09Speaker 1: that's pure speculation, but it fits, right? It definitely lines
- 42:13Speaker 1: up with the timeline that we have. Brian kills Gabby
- 42:18Speaker 1: the 27th, 28th, or allegedly kills the 27th, 28th. Starts
- 42:22Speaker 1: the trip home the 29th. Home by the 1st. So
- 42:26Speaker 1: they knew he was coming home. Why wouldn't they call
- 42:29Speaker 1: and cancel these plans? Let's remake them. We'll bring old
- 42:32Speaker 1: Briar with us. And think about how cool, calm, and
- 42:36Speaker 1: collected you have to be. What sort of sociopath can
- 42:39Speaker 1: just come home and get on with their regular life
- 42:42Speaker 1: after all of this? If I see a bird get
- 42:46Speaker 1: run over in the street, I'm freaked out for 45 minutes.
- 42:51Speaker 1: This dude's fiance is missing and he just comes home
- 42:54Speaker 1: and picks up his life like normal? Sounds like a
- 42:58Speaker 1: real sick and twisted person to me. Somebody who is
- 43:01Speaker 1: definitely wired incorrectly. The source told Fox that the information
- 43:10Speaker 1: about the change reservation has been turned over to the feds.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Now again, they just got this information? What have the
- 43:19Speaker 1: feds been doing? Just hanging around? You only checked the
- 43:22Speaker 1: one reservation? Why? The one preserve? Reserve, I mean, because
- 43:26Speaker 1: his parents told you? We have actionable intelligence, yeah? It
- 43:31Speaker 1: better come to light that you folks did have actionable
- 43:34Speaker 1: intelligence or there is going to be an absolute shitshow
- 43:39Speaker 1: dropped on you. And the FBI can't take any losses here.
- 43:43Speaker 1: They can't take any more falling around and stumbling arounds.
- 43:48Speaker 1: They need a victory. They need a win. So they
- 43:50Speaker 1: better get their act together. Meanwhile, former FBI Deputy Director
- 43:58Speaker 1: Andrew McCabe suggested in a new interview that Laundrie's parents
- 44:02Speaker 1: know more than they have said. Very rarely do I
- 44:06Speaker 1: agree with somebody like Andrew McCabe, but here we are.
- 44:10Speaker 1: I agree with that. I definitely think they know more
- 44:12Speaker 1: than they're letting on. Can I prove that? Absolutely not. And,
- 44:15Speaker 1: of course, that's what it comes down to, folks. The
- 44:18Speaker 1: bottom line, something you have to remember in all these cases,
- 44:22Speaker 1: it's not what we know, it's what we can prove.
- 44:26Speaker 1: So I don't even bother talking about things that I
- 44:29Speaker 1: know that I can't really prove, or at least circumstantially prove.
- 44:36Speaker 1: But it looks to me that the parents certainly know
- 44:40Speaker 1: more than they're letting on, and that's being kind with my, uh,
- 44:45Speaker 1: you know, assessment. What do Laundrie's parents really know, the
- 44:51Speaker 1: former G-man told Headline News, according to The Sun? When
- 44:55Speaker 1: you think about essentially taking a weekend camping vacation with
- 44:58Speaker 1: your son, who just returned back from months on the
- 45:01Speaker 1: road camping with his fiancée, and returned without his fiancée,
- 45:05Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to imagine that conversations didn't take place
- 45:09Speaker 1: between them, McCabe said. Yeah, wow, what do you know?
- 45:14Speaker 1: Certainly not qualified to work for the FBI, folks, but
- 45:17Speaker 1: two and two equals four no matter how you chop it.
- 45:21Speaker 1: And none of this shit made sense to me from
- 45:23Speaker 1: the jump, and that's the whole reason why I started
- 45:26Speaker 1: talking about it. When things don't sit right with me,
- 45:31Speaker 1: you better believe my fat yap is gonna open. He
- 45:38Speaker 1: suggested that Chris and Roberto Laundrie likely would have asked
- 45:41Speaker 1: their son basic questions like, oh, I don't know, where
- 45:44Speaker 1: is your fiance? And why did you leave her in Wyoming?
- 45:47Speaker 1: Or wherever he claims to have parted ways. And then
- 45:51Speaker 1: after that, don't you think they would have called Gabby's
- 45:52Speaker 1: parents and been like, hey, look, we don't know what's
- 45:54Speaker 1: going on. Is Gab's okay? We just want to check
- 45:57Speaker 1: on her. None of that happened. My guess is, and again,
- 46:01Speaker 1: this is a guess. I can't back this up. My
- 46:03Speaker 1: guess is because they knew something bad happened to her.
- 46:10Speaker 1: The parents have denied any knowledge or involvement in their
- 46:12Speaker 1: son's disappearance. In other developments, the FBI has reportedly executed
- 46:18Speaker 1: search warrant on the parents' home and took their son's phone.
- 46:21Speaker 1: Old news. We know that. The family's attorney, Steve Bertolino,
- 46:25Speaker 1: told Eight on Your Side that Laundrie opened an account
- 46:28Speaker 1: with AT & T for a phone that was purchased
- 46:31Speaker 1: on September 4th. He said Laundrie left the phone at
- 46:35Speaker 1: their home the day he took a hike at the
- 46:37Speaker 1: Carlton Reserve. Yeah, I bet he did. Still has his
- 46:40Speaker 1: old phone, I bet, though, right? Or did he throw
- 46:45Speaker 1: that old phone into the swamp and pick up a
- 46:47Speaker 1: burner at one of these corner stores or bodegas? Remember,
- 46:50Speaker 1: he's wearing a mask, has a hat on, wearing glasses.
- 46:54Speaker 1: How many people have hid in plain sight? Look at,
- 47:00Speaker 1: what's her name? Griselda Blanco. She was wanted by the
- 47:05Speaker 1: feds on the top ten list. She was living in
- 47:07Speaker 1: open Miami. I think with the mask factor added in,
- 47:14Speaker 1: it's going to be exponentially tougher to find this guy.
- 47:21Speaker 1: So I hope that the feds brought their lunchbox. I
- 47:24Speaker 1: hope that they got their work boots on. Because it's
- 47:28Speaker 1: time to get busy and find this guy. Enough is enough.
- 47:39Speaker 1: the police department from the jump, not a very good job.
- 47:45Speaker 1: So now, here we are, not even knowing if this
- 47:47Speaker 1: dude was back at the house after the camping trip
- 47:50Speaker 1: and left with more questions than we have answers. So,
- 47:56Speaker 1: we'll continue plugging away, folks, trying to figure out the
- 47:59Speaker 1: what through the what. If you'd like to contact me,
- 48:03Speaker 1: you can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com.
- 48:12Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I.
- 48:20Speaker 1: All of the links that go with this episode can
- 48:22Speaker 1: be found in the description box. And we will be
- 48:26Speaker 1: back later on and we'll have a recap of what
- 48:29Speaker 1: went on throughout the day As long as there's something
- 48:32Speaker 1: to talk about. If not, tomorrow morning it'll be. Alright folks,
- 48:36Speaker 1: I appreciate you all joining me, hanging out, and riding
- 48:41Speaker 1: shotgun throughout this whole entire sad, sad ordeal.