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Should've Guessed HE Caused This | Undead Nightmare | Part 2 · Replay Reviews

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Merry Christmas. Yes. Merry Christmas. Scary
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Christmas Day. Finishing out Undead Nightmare.
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I enjoyed the heck out of this. I just want to
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play it again already. It's pretty good. I wouldn't
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even say it's a horror game. It's just a really
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fun game with some spooky bits to it. In this
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episode, this man is in love with dynamite and
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bleh bleh bleh. Thank you for coming back from
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our replay reviews. My name is Leah. And my name
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is Kathy. We are two friends who are here to
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replay, review, and analyze your favorite video
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games. And since Kathy has never seen the games
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before, it helps me view them through her fresh
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eyes, almost like I'm discovering them again
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for the first time. We hope it will be a similar
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experience for you. So John finds Wes Dickens
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again. who tells him that the border to Mexico
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is closed, that there's an army train headed
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there, and he's set up this whole thing for John
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to get a uniform with some deserted soldiers.
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I have to say, I kind of appreciate the work
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that Wes Dickens put into this for John. I agree,
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but I also think a lot of it is pretty selfish,
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that if John is able to do what he needs to do,
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then he has a better chance of survival. He's
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not going to Mexico anymore is what I don't understand.
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I don't remember why he changed his mind, but
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he says he's going to Baghdad or maybe Fort Mercer,
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which I'm also confused because didn't he just
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get run out of Fort Mercer? He's probably going
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to try a new identity. Or maybe his elixir is
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now a roofie and he's going to make everyone
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forget they kicked him out. Well, anyway, legendary
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moment at the end of this, when Wes Dickens walks
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away, he's like talking about where he's going.
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And he's like, well, that is if I don't turn
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into a zombie. And then he says something along
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the lines of eating flesh and drinking human
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blood. But he extends the blood into a weird
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little tongue wiggle. So he goes drinking human
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blood. Or perhaps it's time to meet my maker
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with drool coming out of my mouth and a lust
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for human blood. So unnecessary, uncalled for,
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but. It gets John a real laugh. It's so good,
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though. We had to rewatch it like three times.
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So John acquires the army uniform, then hitches
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a ride on the train. But the train stops to clear
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some blockage on the tracks. Who put these blocks
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on? And how? They had to haul it from somewhere
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to bring it in. It's... Pretty intentional. It's
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not like it's just tree stumps and branches.
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It's heavy stuff. Or maybe that's just how they
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closed the border back in the day. Just put crates
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on the train tracks. The army men run off when
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they're attacked by zombies. So John just decides,
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hey, I'm going to crash this train through all
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the barricades. Which made the aforementioned
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parts unnecessary to try to haul and move them.
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We're in Mexico. John rides to Las Hermanas.
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where we see Sister Calderon, now Mother Superior.
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She's fighting off a zombie. Why is she alone?
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How is she alive? Yeah, why is she out there
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and all of the nuns are locked inside? But also,
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you had the question, is this the nun from the
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Stranger Mission? And it is. And this will not
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be the last time we see this nun. That's my little
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nugget for you. But yes, she asks John to please
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rescue the nuns that are inside the monastery.
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And he does. Okay, but before he went in there,
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there's a line I really want to dissect with
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you. She's talking about the nuns and about her
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and John being capable. Unfortunately, many of
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my nuns are not so resourceful as you or I. Their
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innocence will kill them, which is truly a terrifying
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reality. I would not know. I think maybe you
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would. I remember watching that part of the game
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and a bit confused because my initial thoughts
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are their innocence, meaning they just have no
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skill set to defend themselves and that's what's
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going to get them killed. I know it runs much
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deeper than that. Part of it is that, in a way,
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I think it means you must be a bad person to
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redeem yourself in order to be a good person.
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Mother Superior and John are willing to shoot
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someone, right? Shoot a zombie to survive. But
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she's saying like the nuns are too innocent to
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know how to defend themselves, essentially. And
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so when John's like, oh, I wouldn't know about
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that. She recognizes that he knows how to survive
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and knows what needs to be done. I think it also
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is reflective for John. Maybe he was with Dutch
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and in that gang. Maybe he was forced to kill
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someone and he didn't want to, but it was like
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the push that if you stay innocent, you're going
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to die. And that was his turning point. And not
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even just him and the gang, but him with his
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family. Like he has to give up his newfound innocence
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in order to protect them. John asks her what
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she thinks is happening. And she's kind of vague
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about it, but thinks it's something more spiritual.
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She says it's a sickness of the soul. She says
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that if John brings her a fresh zombie, they
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can try some experiments and try to figure out
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what exactly is going on. I have to say, I appreciate
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her willingness to try to figure out what the
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heck is happening. Her confidence that she can
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handle one. That's pretty amazing. All right.
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So John heads out to find a fresh zombie. On
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the way, we run into Ricketts. Again, this man
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just loves dynamite. This is not the first time.
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He's going to talk about used dynamite and the
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short appearance he has in this game. He is so
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chill to just be there, unafraid of the zombies.
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Yeah, he seems unbothered. He also seems a little
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more full of himself in this game. He was more
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contemplative in the first game. I think he's
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really more like how John is relaxed. Maybe this
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is his natural state because in the first game,
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he doesn't really know John. But here it's like
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best pals reuniting. All right, well, John does
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return. to Mother Superior Calderon with a fresh
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zombie. She douses it in holy water, and it seems
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like it almost works. He almost turns back into
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a human. But then it kind of fails. I bet Wes
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Dickens would love to have his hands on the holy
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water. Well, after that test fails, she says
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she needs more time to think. But in the meantime,
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John could clear out the Sepulchro graveyard.
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Which he does, and of course, out pops from his
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grave, DeSanta. Kill that man. Felt kind of good
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to kill him, because the first time I let other
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people kill him. Not this time. John then returns
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to Ricketts with what he had asked for, which
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is mostly dynamite, but also Wes Dickens' bait.
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So with it, they make exploding zombie bait.
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Handy. I don't think I ever use it, though. And
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then John returns to Las Hermanas. Did you have
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any other notes on Ricketts? No, but I thought
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that the bottle of bait was pee, because why
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is it lime yellow? Looks like a Mountain Dew.
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John returns to Las Hermanas. He sees a woman
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walking out. He says to Mother Superior, who
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is that? He's sure he keeps seeing her around.
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She responds that she said she was from a holy
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order in Escalera. So apparently this woman has
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blamed the curse on Reyes, which I wouldn't be
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surprised. She claims he angered an ancient goddess
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by disturbing her crypt. So, of course, John
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heads out to go find Reyes. And, of course, Reyes
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is known for abandoning pregnant ladies. He probably
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got them pregnant. Disgusting. National gigolo.
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Yeah, exactly. Anyways, this guy's bugging me,
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and I'm not surprised that they blame it on him.
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Nor am I. I'm also not surprised to see that
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he's chasing this woman around the table. Even
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in zombie form. I love John, though. Stop that
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right now, Abraham. Like he's a dog. At this
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point, though, doesn't John know that these people
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are far gone from understanding human language?
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John seems to be altogether sort of unconcerned.
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Yeah. Or under -concerned with the zombies. He
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says again to this woman, like, haven't I seen
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you before? And she kind of just brushes it off.
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She tells him that Reyes heard of an ancient
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myth and tested it, saying he stole a mask from
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a crypt that's below the villa. How did Abraham
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learn about this? I don't know. Well, I might
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have an answer for you, potentially, maybe. So
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then the two of them leave to go return the mask.
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We walk into these underground tunnels. And she's
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saying weird things in the tunnels, just trailing
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behind John. And one of them she says is, some
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of them worship the moon. And the brave man has
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to kill everyone. And John says, hey, that's
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what Jack was. Who the hell are you? And she's
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quoting verbatim what Jack said at the beginning
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of the game when he's describing the book he's
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reading to John. So I don't know if this book
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maybe talks about the curse or if that's what
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it's indicating or if it's indicating that she
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was there. I don't think she was there when the
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book was being read, but maybe it's a well -known
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story. The fact that it made it into a book and
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it's from their ancestors, I'm not surprised
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it's well -known. I just think that... It's the
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moment where Jon has a full circle moment from
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the beginning of the game. So then they get to
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like the shrine area where the mask belongs.
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And she's like, put it back. And he's like, are
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you sure? And she just says, yes, my name is
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Ayatale. Ayatale. I feel bad for butchering this.
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I think it's Ayatale. At this point, I think
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we kind of figure out because he turns the mask
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and then we hear her voice, but she's disappeared.
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She says, a horse is waiting for you. You should
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return home. So this woman is obviously the goddess,
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right? Yes, the one who has the crypt and the
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mask belongs to her. What I don't understand
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is how she was able to become human in the moment
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with Abraham that maybe when he stole the mask,
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she became human to try to get it. back and that's
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why she can't touch the mask and it also makes
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sense because at one point she says these are
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your demons not mine and i think she's referring
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to these are demons of like the human race and
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she is not of that i agree i think she's more
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spiritual she was also the same girl from the
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church around mother superior right john says
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i've seen you around and he has seen her around
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in fact we've seen her around She was in Blackwater
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at the start of the game. And that group of survivors
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on the roof, she's just walking behind them,
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not saying anything. And then the other group
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at the barrels, she's there too. Oh. And then
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when he's helping the marshal, she's outside
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the window just like peeking in. Wait, in this
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game or in Red Dead Redemption? Yeah. Okay. In
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this game. And you don't really notice it because
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it's like, they're so obvious about it that you're
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like, oh, it's just an NPC. Yeah. just checking
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things out oh but yeah i love that that's just
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a great detail yeah john arrives home to abigail
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and john just sassing him and saying that she's
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starving but my question is how long were they
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alive for like how long does it take to go from
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the temple all the way home and would have hunger
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killed them i don't know my thought was like
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when you're a zombie You don't really need to
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eat to survive. You know what I mean? It's more
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of like a you want to eat, but you're already
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undead. So it's like you can't really die. So
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my theory is they came back to normal mode and
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they ate the steak on the plate. Yeah. Because
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the plate is empty when he gets back. Which is
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smart of John to have put that down for them.
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But then my next question is in coming back home,
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did he not see uncle's body? People he killed
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revived? How does that work? I'm assuming he
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has to be because we see Uncle die again later.
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But how does that work out for people who should
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have been dead who became zombies? John killed
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them. Are they back to dying or are they also
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revived? So I think what happens is he was able,
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because we were clearing out the graveyards by
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burning them. So I think the people that rose
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from the dead, you burn them. And then it sends
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them back to where it really came from. And then,
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yeah, I think people that died just get revived.
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Or people that he killed that were previously
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alive, I think, just get revived. Okay. Logic
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might be flawed, but it's a good time. They also
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joke about her cooking again. Yeah. Maybe women
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don't belong in the kitchen. Should we jump to
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a few months later? Seth's dumb ass has to go
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steal the mask. How did Seth know to find it?
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I don't know. This man's crazy. But maybe it
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was inspired by him no longer having any friends
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or women who pay attention to him. So then he
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needs to steal it so he can get attention. 100%.
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I mean, like we said, he was on cloud nine when
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the zombies were alive. So he probably just wants
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that life back again. Like we said, it's been
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a few months later. John is dead. And when the
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mask is taken, we see zombie John rising from
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his grave. In a new outfit. Mm -hmm. Which, nice
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detail about the outfit is you cannot wear John's
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hat as zombie John. Because, if you remember
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at the end of the main game, Jack has his hat
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now. Oh. So great attention to detail. Okay.
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Back to an early topic about the holy water that
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Mother Superior gives John. Do we do anything
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with it? You can use it in the game, but the
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main purpose is when John rises from the dead,
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that little like info box pops up and it's like
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John's family laid him to rest and they saw this
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mysterious flask of water on him, but they just
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left it. That's the holy water. And it insinuates
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because it says he's basically a zombie, but
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he still has the soul of a man. And the holy
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water is what allowed that to happen. That's
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pretty interesting. It's another cool little
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detail. Yeah. Okay. I didn't realize that. That's
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pretty cool. Well, that's all I have. I liked
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it. I liked how it was quick and effective. I
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know you cut a lot of the killing out, so that
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probably helped. It's very... again nostalgia
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gives me the same kind of uncharted vibes because
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of like the year and the style it was made i
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just like sassy john so much more than red dead
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redemption because red dead redemption was good
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but it wasn't and spoiler it's not going to be
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my favorite game of the season i don't think
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of all games we played but undead nightmare is
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probably going to be on there just because john's
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character has so much more death to him than
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just john being controlled i like this john i
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agree and it makes me kind of sad because i think
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this is more true john and we didn't get to see
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full true john in the main game because he was
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angry and being manipulated well that's all i
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have do you have anything else nope well merry
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christmas scary christmas everybody thank you
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for listening enjoy the rest of Your holiday.
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Yes. And we'll wrap things up with one final
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episode during the new year. I don't know how
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we made it this far. Me neither. I don't know
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how we stayed on schedule. I think we said the
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exact same thing last year and then the year
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before. I think it was, was it season two, Layers
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of Fear, where we made it work, but at what cost?
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My sanity. Pretty much. Not again, though. We
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have a plan. We have a real plan this time. That's
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a hint, actually. I have a plan. Kathy doesn't
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know. Oh. But you guys know. I thought I knew,
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but apparently not. Well, with that, have a great
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