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Shisha Cafes & Digital Hijab · After Maghrib 🌙

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Rahim salam alaikum, and welcome back to the Arthur Muslim
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I'm the law. How's your week been?
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Well I'm the law. Can't complain.
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And was my daughter's birthday just yesterday, today is the
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first of July and so the data recording.
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Yeah. So yesterday evening, the 30th
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of June was my daughter's fifth birthday.
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For those who don't know, you have to two daughters?
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How has the last, what? Five years?
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She's not five years old right, he's fine, she life is must be
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so. So so why life is it is exactly
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as how I am a handle on the larger is it is it fun at home
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being a dad? It's exciting because every day
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is like a different day. Yeah.
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Everything's got its own unique challenges best, it's so
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exciting. Um, I'm Della handle as well by
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yourself too. I asked you that eight quality
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all week, my weeks being good, hamdulillah work as works or
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Works been busy and yeah, it's been it's been things.
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I've been active hundred, like, things are picking up as well in
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the community, which is good to see more initiatives.
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For those who don't know, we had a really interesting discussion
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and we talked about the concept of she out, celebrities, and she
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a celebrity status. What is where it came from?
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Does it exist? Is it bad?
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What the role models like? Are they good?
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know about that too. I think this is been so fast of
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sleeping, really exciting. Very interesting.
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And to be honest, a, the topic today which you want to talk
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about is something which again. We always talk about sometimes,
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we think, think about it in every action we do in, you know,
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sometimes when we go out or we appear somewhere, like for
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example, on a channel like this or somewhere else, but the
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concept of social hijab is a discussion when I talk about,
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but more kind of further than that, as well.
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Not just social hijab, but a new phrase which had enough we're
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calling it for the first time but digital hijab, digital
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culture digital her job being the evolution of social So, he
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job. So it's a big topic.
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That is it's a big topic, indeed.
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And I think whoever's listening to this, I'm assuming everyone's
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ages. Are, you know, sort of I think
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just, you know, maybe 1819 going all the way to about thirties, I
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would say. Yeah, so I think it's a topic.
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That's interesting. Not just from me, being 30 as
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well. After 7:30, it was my birthday
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like on the 6th of June, that's how do you say thank you?
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My one of my in-laws birthday is coming up.
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So Good luck. And don't forget the day they
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don't listen to do very, very important.
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Yeah. But I say is interesting because
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it's something that everyone relates to and I think even when
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we were younger, I think social her job was very different to
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where it is today. And the fact you mentioned the
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words become digital. Yeah, that means things have
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moved forward, very quickly. Yeah, I think it has to be us.
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We live obviously like a postmodernist.
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Well, now and everything is very globalized.
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Everything's very technological. When we were growing up, the
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first was the first one you had. It Nakia I had I can remember
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the model I think was 3210. Yeah, they might only play snake
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on it. I mean that thing that you and I
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both and obviously now the generation growing up is kind of
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dealing with completely new variances of Knology and that's
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not just about the phone. It's what you can access through
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a phone and not just your phone of course, but digital, her job
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is coming now and all sorts of varied contexts and we even
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having to talk Who would have thought that even on a zoom
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call? Where can't, we're considering a
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job and obviously with the pandemic and working from home,
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the concept of hijab physical social.
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And all of that is, is a big discussion to have.
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But when we say social hijab, obviously there are kind of the
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obvious ones in terms of physical hijab.
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And most likely said, saying, most people think of their
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hijab, a sister wears on their head and you know, even the
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Western world or the non-muslim community will know her job to
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be that, but social hijab is probably a bit more than that,
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right? It's more than that.
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It's because it's not just about like you said having a job on
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the head. Yeah, so this is more I think of
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a male-female sort of conversation.
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Let's peek in here mostly to the male's.
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We are indeed, we're very conscious that we are.
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We're two guys here and when the brothers yeah it's game over.
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So that's not our goal. Obviously, we want to be, we
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want to be fair and we want to be representative to Target our
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own, you know, two other brothers, especially over there.
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So the lads, we call them language and inshallah.
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You know, the first paid job has been very different I can't
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speak for ladies. I just want to make that clear
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because I'm not on their shoes and I don't know exactly what
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they face or issues they have when it comes to sort of a job
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with digital her job. As you mentioned, there's as far
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as guys, I think it's mainly got to do with either how do we
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interact with the opposite gender?
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Be our work, be a school, be a university, obeah out, you know,
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even go to the supermarket, sometimes you have to deal with
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a cashier or sometimes you know, you have this sir.
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Environments and scenarios which are not comfortable for
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everyone. But some people enjoy them at
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the same time. I think it's more important to
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say that social her job. It's more about how you conduct
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yourself or how you represent yourself as a Muslim.
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So it's more than just how you look.
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So I think some more about what is your intention?
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Because a lot of people they went, when we just say, social
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her job, they just see, you know, how the acting.
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Yeah, you know. No, has he lowered his gaze?
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You don't want all of these things because I think more
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important, a bigger bigger factor is the individual himself
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and what his intention is. I think that's a very fair
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analysis, to be honest. And what you mentioned say
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there's is fascinating to me, especially about the way you
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carry yourself. Because, you know, you always
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hear in conversation about the confidence that confidence
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breeds success, and all sorts of all sorts of different
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terminologies phrases and ideologies, which route from
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the, the soul of confidence. Make sense.
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I'm for men. Confidence is a big deal.
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Your masculinity a lot of the time is found in the way you
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carry yourself and masculinity in my opinion, shouldn't be then
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defined about the results you have with your agenda and the
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success you have, you know when interacting with them as well
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because unfortunately we live now in a world where you're
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watching TV. You're watching a film where
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you're playing a game. There was always a cool
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character. For example, who has a like you
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know who wins the goal of his dreams or something like that.
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That or even who's just like got this, especially like in, you
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know, these there are films where you've got like a guy
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wearing a leather jacket, for example, when you're smoking and
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a girl walks past. And he says something slightly
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degrading, or that whole concept of social hijab is something
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we've now overlooked because we've become so accustomed to
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behavior towards your opposite gender in, especially in the
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western world where we don't think twice about it.
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So sometimes we may carry ourselves in a way, which isn't
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really appropriate. That's just what I mean by that.
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That's very true because, you know, sometimes when I'm out and
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about whether I'm going to work, whatever it is, it's very
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different to how I am when I'm in, for example, the Middle
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East, because you've got different environment, you've
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got different, shall I say? You can be placed in different
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scenarios even though there might be very similar.
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Yeah, but because there is already the concept of a job
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already in that country being majority Muslim country.
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We don't really think about these things twice.
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So it's like you already programmed to normally act a
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certain way from Singapore, act on?
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Yeah, but this is how you are a true nature, but being here in
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the west you saw your body sort of reprogrammed to How the West
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is. You know.
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And we're trying to, I think find where the line is, are not
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Crossing that line. I don't have much experience,
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has to share best shiny. For me, I can say where I faced
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obstacles. Sometimes was only when I was at
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school. So beyond beyond that, you know,
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at the workplace time delay, you can What to do, you know, when
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you go, you can choose what to do, but I only had that, you
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know, the the I wouldn't call them interactions, I will call
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them part of your studies sometimes.
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You just have to, you have to interact a speak with the
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opposite gender and that's as far as it went.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Because I know from the brothers and the friends that I have
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there's a bigger story to this. There is 100%.
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And to be honest, this like you said, the goal of this
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conversation primarily is to discuss the role of men in the
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discussion of social hijab. Then obviously we'll talk about
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digital hijab and this is of course, to all the brothers out
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there that we need to be taking this seriously.
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We have to be conscious and we mentioned masculinity as a point
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masculinity is goes hand-in-hand with modesty.
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There's nothing to be ashamed of and especially when it comes to
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her job, we have to take more responsibility to be careful
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about who we look at and and how we're looking and so on because
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we are aware that the concept of a first glance exists.
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Yeah. Okay.
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We accept that like this as a man and even as a woman I'm sure
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the first glance at the opposite gender is something that will
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happen even if it's completely unintentional.
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But we know of course that the second the Second Glance onwards
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is not allowed, but that's where the danger begins.
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Yes, because, you know, like I said, first glance at that's
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when the you know that's when you lower your gaze, that's
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that's when you put your head down and continue your normal
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day-to-day life, best. There are people who don't know
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what they say. Is nothing.
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This is where the danger has because then the loophole and
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two-minute first glimpses. Yeah, well, they say a long, as
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long as you want, I, I've heard stories like this.
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Not sure of their true. By the way, this I've had a lot
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of things when it comes to that best.
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I think that the danger realises what you do next correct.
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Because, okay, you speaking about lowering the case, if you
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didn't know where the gays, yeah, if you're still looking,
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that means you're going to go to step two, the step two, it could
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be maybe smiling, we may be saying hi.
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And then it becomes very hard to say goodbye.
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And you know all of these things this is how they begin.
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Small small steps, this I think is all avoidable.
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Like it is olive oil, olive oil because slams angle Omega is you
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lower your gaze. You won't have this problem.
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It's avoidable but it's hard. It's as hot as men.
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There's no loss plan to Allah says in the Holy Quran, sort of
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node verse number 30, bismillahi, r-rahman, r-rahim.
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Tell the believing men to cast down their looks and guard their
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private parts for that is pure for them.
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Surely Allah subhanaw taala. Is well, acquainted, with what
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they do. I think that should be a stark
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reminder to us to be honest. That we are living in reality
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and even if we are alone, we're driving.
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We are walking past someone like you said, in a supermarket,
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where at work, or even at school or university.
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I think it's, it doesn't just apply to adults.
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I think, even if you're young and your bar look, like, it's
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the thing, we have to be aware of that.
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Last one to Allah is watching us all times, and although it is
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unavoidable. And it is difficult.
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It is achievable and I think once you go on that journey to
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in some ways try to self purify and resist, it becomes easier
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over time. Mmm, would you recommend II
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believe? It becomes easier for those who
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are married. Yeah, 100%.
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Yeah. We were talking about this
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earlier. Yeah.
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We spoke on the phone just before the podcast.
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Yeah. Just to gather each other's
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thoughts and we both agreed that marriage sort of helps you stay
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away from having All this, since it's called up since because
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they all were they, all they all I'm saying is the citizen at the
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end of the day. And the only way I think to
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prevent, you know, having any or falling into the category of
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sins, it's getting married at a young age and I think getting
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married on young age. Helps you first of all, from
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avoiding such scenarios because you're too busy being with your
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wife, vice versa as well. Pretty sure. 100% absolutely
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say. Now obviously, I know we've
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spoken off camera in the past Stand on WhatsApp, we've shared
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like kind of opinions on this but we're sorry, I'm getting
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worried. Yeah, here we go.
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This is the time where I expose you.
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So this is where we've had the private conversation.
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A lot of fun. There's no, there's no nothing
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to expose. This is good news.
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No, in the sense that we've shared a pins with each other,
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about the state of the digital world when it comes to her job.
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And for those who kind of are aware of, not just aware of
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social media because everyone's aware of social.
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But we're of the changing Trends in social media, you will come
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to realize that the social media platforms and algorithms and
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social media will boost and promote kind of content, which
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in many ways, contradicts Islamic values.
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So, for example, things, which are likeable, and clickable, and
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viral are things which sometimes are immoral or sometimes things
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were just so shocking to the human eye that they can't take
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their eyes off it and a lot of the time that falls into the
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category of things Which aren't good to look at on social media
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and things, which are easily accessible.
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Would you reckon? I believe that what you have
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just said something that even though we spoke briefly about on
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the phone I'm thinking of it right now.
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Yeah. And you're very right, because
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when I first started off on Instagram I can remember.
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I was like, you get to see what other people like.
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You get to see what who followed who and used to always give you
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like this. So you always solve, you know,
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back in the day. Yeah, this is like everything
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went to shit, started 14 a lot. Not sure of the year.
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There's that was pretty much it and then things changed.
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Next thing, there was this like explore page and then now you're
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open to a complete different world.
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Yeah. So you're no longer seeing what
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you and your community table to niacin what the world is up to,
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and the world is in a complete mess, even now I don't want to
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promote the platform this by year ago, open Tick-Tock.
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Yeah, she was all about and I was scared to open that because
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you never open that things are inappropriate, just pop up.
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And yeah, it just happens that handle of the algorithm has
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improved and the only see, why want to see best.
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This is what people are seeing and they to date.
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Like yeah, it's working as well because that content sometimes
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is forced upon you and you can't do anything about it.
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And you have at least for example, on I don't say at least
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but They're all social media platforms where you will see
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what you, what you choose to see.
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For example, you can control who you follow or friends, you have
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on the app and so on. But of course, there are apps.
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Like Tick-Tock follow us on Tick-Tock after monopod glass.
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Yeah. No.
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But there are apps like Tick-Tock of course which are
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which are, which are, which, you know, pose the same threat and
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not just the content we see on Tick Tock, but also the people
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and the way they behave on Technical and particularly we're
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talking about About Muslims here.
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Yeah. See I have a lot to say but I'm
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scared. I might not sound like I might
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have, I might sound like someone who just judges people know,
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we're not just less than all honesty.
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If you pull yourself out there, it's your fault.
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Your dad to be a judge. At the end of the day.
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The things we see our own brothers sisters, you know, how
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they, you know, you know it's called Trends.
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Now, people do some ridiculous things, other nervous for the
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views are, what know, the sake of becoming viral the sake of
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becoming viral. All the best.
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It's it's it's destroyed social my job completely, there's is
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like if there if there ever was a curtain Maybe two, three years
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ago, there was a partial cards and now they're just like so
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perverse before. I remember like the majority of
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accounts were like private accounts.
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Yeah. So you can really follow anyone
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or no follow you. But now, I mean, I'll be honest
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with you said, I've downloaded Tick-Tock the last month or so
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because of obviously the podcast.
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Yes. And because of another thing I'm
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involved with, for work, for that, for that organization, or
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that company page as well. I have a tick tock But I
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personally I haven't thank God like I don't see the point of
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it. I haven't got into it, like it
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doesn't really intrigued me. But from what I have seen there
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is all sorts of content on there and it's not just Tick-Tock, by
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the way, it's also Instagram. I think there's a big, there's a
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big culture within our community and just, you know, it's very
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much infiltrated by wider Society.
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So for example, I think I mentioned this to you.
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There's a culture for men and boys to go on Lads holiday.
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As yes and post pictures, for example, wearing vests or shorts
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or wearing, you know, LA Lakers basketball tops.
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Yes. You know what I mean?
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And by top, some invests, right? That kind of thing in my opinion
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is wrong. Is yeah, it's not permitted,
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it's not allowed, it's it's wrong.
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I think, because c 1 or Scholars.
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Let's just, yeah, just so I I, I don't want to speak as if I'm
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speaking on behalf of the religion of Islam or, you know,
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me Motherfucker rulings best. I believe it's the start of what
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becomes even. So if you're willing to show
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yourself in a vest, yeah you know if you're willing to show
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yourself I don't know and it shorts and all of our online
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posting gaming. Happy about it.
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It's only going to lead to even worse things.
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Hmm. Because next time you more than
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happy to maybe now take off that list.
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Yeah and plus the picture is a big thing in the u.s. it is a
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big thing like I'm not judging anyone honest-to-god best.
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I this is this is like you are sewing your own seeds.
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And then you're going to reap what you thought.
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So if I'm not talking about you directly, I'm talking about the
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future Community the future generation, it could be your
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children, could be your kids could be your nieces, your
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nephews, wherever they are. They're going to look up to you
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and they're going to see, I'm more eggs or Hollow X is doing
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this correct. What's it going to tell them?
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They can tell them is normal. My phone is ringing.
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By the way, I have to do. Put on silent.
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Yeah. Oh good.
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But I think at the same time so it as well.
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It also puts someone. And the reason why I'm against
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it is, I think when you've gone through, let's be real, like I'm
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definitely not. Infallible by finding his.
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I'm not not a great example to many, but one thing I do know is
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that I have I have changed a lot in a personal capacity over the
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last 10 years or so. And they'll handle archive, I
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think I'm at a stage now where I have more conscious
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Consciousness over my digital presence and my my kind of this,
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the circle, I keeping someone online.
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And a big part of it is when you post pictures, which are maybe
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not appropriate from a fiscal perspective or even just Moral
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perspective, you are putting yourself at risk of being
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interacted with and interacting with others.
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So for example, you post a good looking picture in the gym or as
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a guy you post a good looking picture in a selfie mirror
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mirror selfie or something like that or whatever it is.
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These things are very common and you know, I follow hundreds of
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guys, many of them. Probably going to rinse me after
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this but I follow so many people and I scroll past this once a
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day and you know, a lot of the time they're good people.
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We know brothers and sisters with by specially Brothers
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within the community who we interact with.
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We pray with it, we study with and so on but these things in my
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opinion on one level too far and it puts them at risk of being
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deemed by a girl or being judged by their own Community, which is
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obviously at detriment to their own reputation.
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Yeah. So yeah, I'm not a fan.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't want to say what
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they're doing is Haram, okay? I don't think there's a scene
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and taken a selfie in the mirror.
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For example. No might be joking though.
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We're joking about this. Notice this is because at the
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end of the day I think is the intention like.
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Now if you're posting topless photos, that's between you and
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God right now, it's it's not written.
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All right I'm not going to talk about that.
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Yeah yeah you know there's certain people that they are
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holiday the show they have a good time.
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The you know the the in the beach, the showing of The biceps
21:25
however is all of this is going to lead to something you're
21:28
going to Right. And that you could be the fault
21:31
of someone from the opposite gender saying, oh look at his
21:35
biceps femoris. You my share it, to our friend
21:37
and say hey I just saw this guy on the Eastern Beach having fun
21:40
in Dubai for example machine the bike because it's Nova beaches.
21:43
Yes. Common destination, one
21:45
destination for many of our brothers because you know,
21:48
Muslim country, halal food. All of that has got that
21:50
environment. But as have doesn't have any
21:53
spiritual spirituality, I must say, I've never been, I'll be
21:57
honest, I've been a few times Ben.
21:59
And some say, I'm lucky. So I think you're missing out
22:02
best. You'd rather go to Z are at
22:04
this. Tenacious, I guarantee you that.
22:08
So I don't feel like it's them saying.
22:10
Hey, look at me, you know, as my biceps it's happening indirectly
22:15
because it's become normal. Yeah.
22:17
Now 56 years ago, had had someone who's poor a picture of
22:22
his what they call was that team a label or the called Lakers
22:26
Lakers don't ask me as a yellow color.
22:28
Orange? That's about as far as it goes.
22:30
Let's just say Lakers for Yang for names.
22:33
I don't think five years ago, six years ago, they would have
22:35
uploaded a photo them wearing the vest on the beach for
22:37
example because it wasn't normal.
22:40
Okay wasn't now it's normal. Now we have it in a fashion
22:44
sense or normal to Muslims, right?
22:47
I see. Okay.
22:48
You know I need that one. Why I said early on, I was like
22:51
we have the curtain. Then there was like this partial
22:53
curtain and now the curtain is just wide open and it's become
22:58
normal. Whoa, and a lot of it.
22:59
I believe this is my personal from things.
23:02
I see. I think it's not an appearance.
23:05
Yeah, any yeah. We spoke on the phone at the
23:07
mission, the spot, but because I don't want to be judgmental and
23:11
say, it's your mama dog. That's fault.
23:13
Because I think a lot of her plays your parents anyway, I
23:16
know parents who are amazing, people God-fearing people, you
23:22
know, they raise their kids in such an amazing way, but when it
23:25
comes to things like this with their sons, They don't get
23:29
involved, like, if my son's interacting with the opposite
23:33
gender on social media, none of my business, none of my
23:36
business. If my son's going out to a
23:37
shisha Cafe and is mixed with females, none of my business,
23:42
what's the reasoning, your body? You can borrow it so Jackman.
23:46
So he'll grow our, this will get married will stop eventually.
23:50
Yeah, it's the mentality. They have Jesus cultural, do you
23:53
think culture plays a part in that?
23:54
I addressed. It may depending on where you
23:58
are. Room, because I'm speaking on
24:01
behalf of the Rockies. Mmm.
24:03
Yeah. I need depends where y'all from
24:04
Iraq. Some things are normal.
24:05
Things are not normal this. The parents themselves known
24:09
that this is not right. And they're not saying anything
24:11
about it. I know people like I'm saying
24:14
this because I have friends of Paris, really don't care.
24:17
I've had so many stories like this as well.
24:19
And to be honest, I've heard that obviously within certain
24:22
communities, parents will judge their daughters with more.
24:28
A harshness. And then their sons and they'll
24:30
say, the sons will get married, they'll grab it and they'll
24:32
mature women, the girls, our daughters, they get mature
24:37
younger, they should be doing the right thing, otherwise, no
24:39
guy, I want to marry them, but guys, it's okay.
24:42
No, that's unacceptable entirely unacceptable and I'm sure to be
24:45
honest inshallah, you know, a lot of, a lot of the, the
24:48
younger parents today. You know, we'll have a different
24:51
mindset when it comes to this, and a lot of us have grown up in
24:54
this Society. I mean, and not, that makes a
24:57
difference. But you will have more of an
24:59
understanding of the equality and Equity between men and women
25:03
in the day and age. We live in now compared to,
25:04
obviously, in different parts of the world where our forefathers
25:07
were. But a big part of the state is
25:10
well is not just posting content, but engaging
25:15
instruction. Do you see what I mean?
25:16
The kind of behind the scenes as well because it's very easy on
25:19
Snapchat to reply to a story. For example, just as an example
25:25
you're in school and it's a sister post something about like
25:28
I don't know. No her class.
25:29
Or you know how much they hate maths.
25:32
Homework is very easy. As a guy to say oh I'm going to
25:35
apply to her. We're talking about homework,
25:37
it's Halal, she's so, I mean, she's a classmate with strictly
25:41
acquaintances and that's the scary thing.
25:43
Because, yeah, if it's, if it's, when I say, is it normal?
25:48
Of course, it's normal to tell your friends.
25:49
I'm doing homework or whatnot. Yeah, the fact that it's public.
25:53
That means the opposite gender seeing this and the opposite
25:56
gender, you know, maybe he Have any wrong intentions, right.
26:01
But that's the beginning of something.
26:03
Because that that pure intention, let's say, can change
26:08
shape on exists. We all know.
26:09
Satan is Hayes Whispering, whether you believe it or not.
26:13
Some people. If you guys can hear the
26:15
seagulls outside, I can hear the seagulls.
26:16
Yeah, the only thing they'd like to say to me when on the beach,
26:21
by the way. It's not reaching the by the
26:24
beach. Yeah but but when she is posting
26:27
that store Three on Snapchat that she and her account is open
26:32
to everyone. Yeah, you know, by I don't know
26:34
how the privacy settings work on on Snapchat.
26:37
Yeah, so I'm not sure where it is now.
26:40
Like I was I was a big Snapchat user back in the day.
26:43
Yeah. And but I I know it's changed.
26:46
No idea. Now you can have anyone at you.
26:49
I think it recommends, you other people it does.
26:51
And this is where the danger happens.
26:53
Is that for you. You've uploaded a story of using
26:55
your homework. Something so innocent.
26:57
Yeah. And it's just for you and your
26:58
Because your account is no public.
27:00
Your account is no private. Sorry, what happens.
27:02
Someone has recommended you snapshot has shed.
27:05
Yeah. And then lll is just those three
27:09
letters long, good luck, you know, blah blah, blah.
27:12
And that's where it begins. Yeah, I think as well as that is
27:15
it's we have to remember that resisting the that we can go for
27:18
ages. Yeah.
27:19
Okay. There's so many examples cases.
27:21
You talked about shisha cafes which I really wanted to talk
27:24
about. Let's talk, you know, let's talk
27:25
about your phase. Yeah, let's talk about, let's be
27:27
real first thing. I'm Going to say is that none of
27:31
us went on, don't think she's just marking you, we're not
27:33
endorsing it but at the same time it's a huge culture
27:36
existing within our generation, Our Friend circles.
27:40
So you know we're we're you know it's something we see a lot of
27:44
and like, I'm going to say like out, you know up front, I have
27:49
I've been in an environment where people smoking shisha as
27:53
well and it's very easy to be in an environment and to come
27:58
across The wrong sort of people ought to be put in a put at
28:01
risk. For example, engaging with the
28:03
opposite gender, you could be for example, smoking shisha.
28:07
And you're with your boys and you're strictly having a Halal
28:09
discussion and the sister walks in or a number of sisters or you
28:13
know, whatever it is and someone catches your eye.
28:16
Now, the question is not what were you saying?
28:18
I can't accidentally see a sister.
28:21
I'm speaking to Brothers. No, the point is, is, are you in
28:24
the position or are you in a place, which is putting you at
28:27
risk of doing an act of halal? If you're in an environment like
28:30
that you shouldn't be there in the first place.
28:31
If it's going to give you the risk of it you.
28:33
So I'm saying so we're talking obviously we're going back to
28:35
the physical Point. I've had job instead of digital,
28:38
but for example, if you're in a place where music is playing
28:40
alcohol is served and it's a very, very mixed and very young
28:46
and Youthful Urban environment, you're going to come across
28:49
people who you wouldn't push up to you.
28:51
Wouldn't for example, be happy. If your brother - sister like
28:54
that or your sister married, a guy like that, just what I mean,
28:57
you'd rather be in an environment or a Think of see
28:59
where you're not smoking shisha as an ideal, but where you are
29:02
having that healthy discussion but, you know, sit with your
29:05
friends, after Maghrib, have chai and relax.
29:08
I mean, just what I mean. So, with your friends listen to
29:11
after my, this is awesome. Okay.
29:12
And what, I think what we're trying to say about this is a
29:14
home is that concept of putting yourself even if you're not
29:18
intending to do harm? But you're physically entering a
29:21
Zone where you might be at risk of it.
29:23
It's the same, it's the same as entering a zone of social media
29:27
and you're putting yourself. Life at risk and you've content
29:30
is forced on you. Even if you don't volunteer that
29:32
information upon yourself and you know, at times you have
29:35
you're forced to interact with it.
29:36
But I mean speaking about you shake a face.
29:39
Yeah. And all the points you just
29:42
mentioned. Like it's something.
29:44
I think not just me and you agree with I think everyone's
29:47
listening to this podcast can agree with because I think
29:50
everyone has experienced this. Yeah.
29:53
You know you go to again I'm not, you know promoting any time
29:58
Companies are here but like you said, it's in the cold shot.
30:01
Yeah. Well that's good.
30:03
Or bad is happening. People are going to shake a face
30:06
and I used to be someone that used to go quite often.
30:09
That's the let me say as is calm Everything's changed stopped
30:14
having to spend more time at home away from any shisha
30:19
smoking. Yes.
30:20
Back in the day for us. What was as and Halal
30:24
environment to us. What's going out with the boys,
30:27
correct? Sitting down talking, having
30:30
tea, smoking shisha? Yes, correct.
30:32
And the beautiful thing about it back in a day is not like we
30:35
were just going out having fun. And it was like, we were
30:39
actually go and have like meaningful.
30:40
This. Yeah.
30:41
Entrepot sister, Godlike. We will discuss religion, be
30:44
substantially, like that will. That's what was the most
30:48
enjoyable thing about shisha cafes.
30:50
Yeah, back then. Yeah, you're right now.
30:52
I do not want to stop step foot on any of them because now I can
30:55
tell Difference. But realistically between a club
30:59
and she Kathy. Yeah, things have changed.
31:03
Why? Because of digital high jump,
31:05
mmm, social media. When I start promoting all these
31:08
businesses, all these new amazing shisha places and
31:12
venues. People like, I know, Brothers,
31:17
used to say, let's go to this Cafe because it's quiet.
31:21
Yeah. And then also new brothers who
31:22
said, let's go to this Cafe. This is loud.
31:26
So there was that mix. Yeah.
31:28
So you, I guess, you know, who to chill with?
31:32
Yeah, but when social media you're not about puss, it tells
31:37
you a lot that big white because they are watching this on social
31:39
media. They're saying they're seeing
31:41
this like false sense of Freedom, when I can go enjoy
31:45
myself, Of what the lads and the excuse of amount with the boys.
31:48
Yeah. But the in the Haram
31:50
environment, it is what it is. It's a harem environment.
31:54
And then you have other brothers know, they choose to go through
31:56
the fissure Cafe based on, you know, the Risen up in cafes with
32:01
there's no girls. Yeah, of course.
32:03
And this amazing course, of course, of course, because you
32:05
can literally sit down and be comfortable being who you are.
32:09
Now, when you want to go to these other shisha venues, okay?
32:12
Let's say you're out the boys. A lot of places that you go.
32:15
Oh, to that. Have these?
32:17
Shall I say that all the called Dance Floor.
32:20
I have no idea with DJs and whatnot.
32:22
Yeah, I'm mentioning this because I know people in from
32:26
the community among friends, some of them, they go to these
32:28
places and they have to dress up.
32:31
Why? Because opposite genders there.
32:35
Okay. They have to go on a specific
32:37
day while because that's when it's most busy mixed with the
32:40
opposite gender and they see this online Digital digital,
32:45
then they go the physical. It's connected.
32:48
It is, it's all connected to be on a state and at the same time
32:51
it's there's a like you said, there's a risk that we will see
32:54
something on social media will perceive a situation to be an
32:58
amazing because it looks normal because it looks yeah.
33:00
And the 99% of these venues, but I'm not just talking about shake
33:04
a face like, yeah, Muslim entertainment businesses in
33:07
general, are run by Muslims, correct.
33:09
Yeah, of course and if, as a Muslim, I'm seeing a Muslim
33:12
business promoting Something like this.
33:14
I think it's normal. The becomes normal becomes
33:17
normal becomes normal. Yeah.
33:19
We've become very accustomed to to giving up and putting all
33:23
just, you know, putting aside our responsibilities with with a
33:27
job. And I want to say, to be honest,
33:30
I know we're specifically talking to the brothers,
33:33
obviously the same will go for the Sisters as well and being
33:35
conscious of where you go and who you're with and who might be
33:38
there and it's all people you'll come across and we don't want to
33:41
get too much into the sisters. Option because there's a whole
33:46
wealth Handler of content out. There's most of all most of it
33:50
by Brothers but I'm sure there's obviously sisters out there as
33:52
well. Who can talk to talk about
33:54
things. But from a Brothers perspective,
33:57
a good guy should not be in an environment like that.
34:01
Yeah, she sure I'm saying, you know, a guy who sorry.
34:05
Sorry, sorry. I'm just going to finish this
34:06
point. Yeah, you carry arms.
34:07
I don't forget the point. I was going to mention as you
34:09
mentioned. It's my little girl.
34:10
I'm going to say it. Yeah.
34:11
Sorry. No, not at all.
34:14
Why want to say is that? Whoever is going to shake a
34:16
face. Is not a bad person?
34:17
Yes. Okay.
34:18
It doesn't mean they're not bad, but I remember my mom.
34:21
She stole my heart away. Going mom, I'm going here.
34:24
Where is her go? Until she Cafe?
34:27
Yeah, okay. But by majority of time where I
34:30
was going, was going to assure Cafe, right?
34:32
With amazing Brothers, with amazing discussion. 100%, just
34:36
having a good time. Good time in terms of talking
34:38
against against again, to see what's going on.
34:40
What's the latest your friends and the day and you need that?
34:43
So Social bubble that needs to exist about my mom.
34:45
She said, why are you going there?
34:46
And he shouldn't be going there and I should tell my mama, where
34:48
do I go the shabaab? There's nothing else for me.
34:50
This has a she has almost l'm to be in an environment where I can
34:55
enjoy, you know. So this is probably the biggest
34:58
argument in favor of it because everyone say you'd rather be
35:01
there than be a club. You'd rather, are you thought
35:03
together talking about real life issues in a lot?
35:07
If there's a pot of she said, who cares?
35:08
Actually thought my mom was rather shisha than drugs.
35:10
Yeah, you know, people who take drugs and I'll be honest.
35:13
And shisha to be honest in that sense.
35:16
Like you said, a lot of people, a lot of Our Generation has
35:18
stayed away from environments, like these band environments,
35:22
like clubs or out on the streets and doing whatever they're
35:24
doing, and it's better that they're with their Community.
35:28
Obviously, you at the next step for Our Generations, to talk
35:30
about how to phase away from she show anything, which is harmful
35:32
to your health, or could be considered her arm, depending
35:35
how you follow and so on and then to phase that into a
35:37
healthy conversation where you don't need to rely on the
35:40
presence of a pipe. Basically you What I mean, but
35:45
was quickly going to say earlier was about, like you said, not
35:49
everyone who goes is a bad person at all.
35:53
That's what we always get better.
35:54
I didn't say that because I've been too shy known.
35:56
Of course, it's 100% and me as well to be Scholars.
36:00
That goes. Yeah, yeah, I think we all do.
36:05
But I will say that, obviously, it's a culture that we should
36:09
grow of, and, of course, it's about the sort of places you go.
36:12
If it's a Mixed environment. If there is loud music, it's not
36:15
ideal and the same thing. Again, we apply it back to the
36:18
conversation. We had about digital a job.
36:20
There is, there are communities that build on social media,
36:23
whether it's group chats, whether it's Twitter spaces, or
36:26
whether it's Instagram groups, or whatever it is, where
36:29
opposite genders even people don't know each other, they
36:31
added to a group that talking to each other.
36:33
Do you see what I mean? And it's very easy to follow
36:35
someone and they follow you back and discreetly you like their
36:38
picture, like, two weeks later and they like yours back a week.
36:41
You see what I mean? And before, you know, it there,
36:43
Applied to a story and then six months later, you're speaking
36:45
every day. Six months after that, you meet
36:48
up six months after that you tell your parents.
36:50
It's very easy for things to move and then you know if
36:53
there's a risk of things moving too fast and you get caught in
36:56
the Trap of saying solar and you regret it for years to come.
37:00
And then unfortunately this these things will spill into
37:03
your your life as an adult. Do you see what I mean?
37:06
The guilt, the pressure, the responsibility you then have to
37:10
your wife to your kids. You will feel Also, because the
37:14
years where you should have been a prime spirituality when you're
37:17
unmarried and you've got the most to resist and that is your
37:20
chance to become a real man. At that age.
37:23
If you're polluting your mind, your heart and your soul with
37:26
images, which are not correct or for example, interaction, which
37:29
is not correct. Then we are at risk of
37:31
jeopardizing, our future and of course it's very important for
37:35
us to then get back on track. It is and I think one point this
37:40
important to mention is For some, it can be tricky because
37:46
it's family. But there are families out there
37:49
where a job doesn't exist. Yeah, there's no such thing as a
37:54
job. And I don't know if, you know
38:04
this, this starts at home. I need someone, as I said
38:08
sometimes parents just don't care and don't talk about the,
38:11
sun's about it. If, if it's happening at home is
38:17
going to happen outside, hmm? Okay, 100%.
38:21
And if the parents are fine with this, I'd be be be transparent.
38:24
What are you talking about? I'm going to say is how come on?
38:28
Okay, I'm here with my thumbs. Yeah, but sometimes as cousins
38:31
causes aizen's, okay? In Lord, how is laws, relatives,
38:37
family, friends, all sorts intermarriage relatives and
38:41
cousins? And yeah, there's no such thing
38:42
as a job. And align our communities is
38:44
sort of exists. Yeah.
38:46
Best I've been in different communities where I've seen it
38:49
just, I don't know where I am. Am I in the right home that?
38:55
I visit the right place. No faster than the amazing
38:57
people. Mmm, the homes.
38:58
I visit everyone's amazing but having the best sometimes I'm
39:01
like, Okay. Wait, you know, you know, you
39:07
know, my prom. Why are you guys all laughing?
39:11
Why you guys all shaken hands? Why are you guys all doing it?
39:15
Just didn't make sense to me. Yeah, and if that's happening at
39:18
home and the parents are fine with it.
39:19
I don't know what the future holds.
39:22
So what I am trying to say, and let me be clear.
39:26
Yeah, as that What we are seeing in this day and age, we didn't
39:32
used to see before, we're seeing ya families, who have no issues
39:38
with, you know, I'm not talking about media family.
39:41
I'm talking about extended family.
39:42
Mmm, they have no issues of they're going to go out their
39:45
sons and their daughters, and their nieces and then if you
39:48
don't buy look by the way. Hmm.
39:50
Some are even married. By the way, they don't mind them
39:52
mixing going bowling going, Cinemas, together, going
39:55
holidays together and there is no such So I don't interrupt but
40:01
there's no better rebounder. Yes.
40:03
That is like, what's their excuse?
40:06
We grew up together or I see them like a sister, or I see him
40:10
like a brother and this is dangerous.
40:11
I look, I'll be honest. I agree with you.
40:14
There's a couple of things I do disagree with and the first is
40:17
that, when you say this is exist, it didn't exist before.
40:21
I think it has exist. I think it was in some ways, it
40:23
was at least speaking from behalf of the South Asian
40:26
Community, pakistanis, Indians, even gorgeous.
40:29
Pre Islamic revolution in 1979, a lot of my community didn't
40:35
even used to wear hijab in terms of the sisters first thing to
40:38
know. So the concept of social hijab
40:41
was even further distant. If you see what I mean I dab and
40:45
a clock and all these things have always existed but as a
40:47
cultural thing. Yeah.
40:48
Do you see what I mean? So like lowering gaze and so on,
40:51
was there out of respect and the same way you see, like for
40:53
example in the Far Eastern communities in Korea and so on
40:56
they will bow and so on. But as a term of respect as a So
40:59
religious ruling. Now in today's day and age where
41:04
on one side, you've got families in our community who are doing
41:07
things on a, what some people would call conservatively and
41:11
the sense they wear the hijab, they'll lower their gaze, they
41:14
won't shake hands, no matter how long they've been related to or
41:18
acquainted with each other. For example and then obviously,
41:21
you've got other families who are more liberal in that sense.
41:26
And to be fair, like most families, you have a mix of
41:28
both. So, Have members of your family,
41:30
which are really chill, and they're happy for example, you
41:34
know, like if I have an auntie, who's maybe like 20, 20 years
41:38
older than me. So when I was born, for example,
41:40
she was 20 years old, by the time, I'm 21 years old.
41:42
She's 40 years old, and her mind.
41:43
I'm a baby. She used to babysit me and yada
41:46
yada yada in my mind, but I'm, I'm 20 years old.
41:49
I'm by lift. I consider myself a man of
41:51
marriageable age and so on. And she still young enough to in
41:55
a sense that she's still young enough to not be considered an
41:58
old antique. Do you get me?
42:00
So there becomes an awkward position there and I've been in
42:03
that position as a guy and I'm sure they've been sisters as
42:06
well who have been in that same position, but that's a really
42:09
important thing to mention. But generally speaking, it's not
42:13
good, in the South Asian Community, it's very, very
42:18
liberal. And that sense, and he's all
42:21
conservatives, sorry, we need more conservative.
42:23
Yeah, hold them. Close - yeah, and this is the
42:26
thing, like, I'm the question of using the word conservative, as
42:29
well as Specially because it's if from an Islamic perspective
42:32
is not conservative, it's doing what Huck you know you're doing
42:36
was right and the right thing is to adhere to certain ruling.
42:39
So for example I'm not a fan of like seeing non Madam's who for
42:45
example let's say you go to visit or friends house.
42:47
Yeah. And his wife, as this is clearly
42:50
just like a complete hypothetical situation Earth,
42:53
but let's say you go to a friend's house, his wife is
42:55
there and she's wearing her hijab halfway or she's Pajamas
43:00
or whatever. I'm not going to judge that.
43:02
That's the sisters decision to make and you know she's married
43:06
for example to a guy and that's between them but from a guy's
43:11
perspective doesn't the forgot really?
43:13
Yeah it's not. I think that how much, you know,
43:14
awkward. It's yeah it's not comfortable.
43:16
That wasn't say because you don't want to tell them what
43:18
you're doing. Yeah you want to come cover a
43:21
little more but yes you don't offend them.
43:23
Yeah and more. So as well with men as well like
43:27
let's say for example your wife has friends who come over We're
43:30
at home, usually wear shorts and a t-shirt or trackies and a
43:33
t-shirt. Put it, why are you doing that?
43:35
Like, we're long sweater Hoody and wear trousers, like, which
43:38
are more respectable wear socks? Like, it's no one's saying you
43:42
can't be comfortable, but just be conscious that you might make
43:45
someone feel uncomfortable. Every environment is different.
43:48
Yeah, of course. And I don't go too much into it.
43:55
But yes, I think Cole's not because I don't want to blame
43:59
Sisters. No, definitely not.
44:01
But there's responsibility on the sisters as there is on the
44:04
men. Yeah, and we know the Holy Quran
44:05
tells us. So I to keep going said that to
44:07
the men though the gaze into the sisters were made modest, but
44:10
it's both to be honest. Yeah, it's by The Men, We remain
44:13
modest as well. This is lower their gaze and
44:15
it's, we live, like you said, in a world now where you can know
44:17
everything about, someone know their voice, no, their face
44:21
know, their favorite color. No, they're linked in history,
44:23
what they were doing for years ago, what school this tiny that
44:26
1925, like just what I mean before either.
44:29
Meeting them, you can know everything about them.
44:31
So it's very easy on in this day and age to find information
44:36
about anyone and then meet them and know everything and not
44:40
there, not knowing that you know all about them which are my mind
44:43
is creepy. It's a is a creep move, you
44:46
shouldn't do that, it's as creepy as it is creepy, but it's
44:49
reality. And US was putting out their
44:52
sons are there. So maybe what part of the
44:54
problem? Yeah.
44:55
No. Of course, like volunteering
44:56
that information is what? I said earlier, like the content
45:00
you put out. Yes, we talked about images and
45:02
we talked about interaction but also just generally being aware.
45:05
I think for us that content we put out there in any form or
45:08
even just a presence itself comes with challenges.
45:12
I'm and I got a question for you.
45:14
Mmm. That's okay.
45:16
You know, the way you're speaking with me and I know the
45:20
people listening and watching this podcast, I think the N loss
45:22
of value by what you're saying. But I think one thing is we
45:27
haven't given them like a solution, okay.
45:31
Because I think we've raised a lot of a lot of issues and we're
45:35
just talking about problems. I think it's only fair to let
45:38
them know that there is light at the end of the tunnel and the
45:41
light is, there's a solution for every problem.
45:43
Yeah, maybe we should discuss about the shit.
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But back to the conversation said you asked about Solutions,
46:47
I think there's a there's a few things which come to mind and
46:50
I'm going to try and bullet point them because I know we're
46:52
short, on time. Number one is I think be
46:54
conscious about Amount of time you spend on your phone from a
46:57
digital perspective, screen time is a big issue.
47:02
So a big issue people have with Tick-Tock is that you can scroll
47:04
endlessly and you'd be on there for hours without realizing
47:08
that's the first one. The second one I would say is be
47:10
conscious about the sort of interactions you're having with
47:12
people and the way things might come across, you might use an
47:14
emoji which someone might interpret differently.
47:18
For example, if a sister sends you a smiley face, don't take it
47:22
as flirting even if they are flirting.
47:25
Uh it's not undone pursue it. Do you get them saying leave it
47:28
and and and just try and keep it if you are, if you're having to
47:31
interact, some keep it civil, keep it Halal and that's it and
47:34
don't give the opportunity to someone else to misinterpret
47:36
you. The third thing I'd say, is be
47:38
conscious about what you're following.
47:39
So for example, a lot of mean Pages.
47:42
Yeah, a lot of mean Pages, a lot of like, lad Pages, without
47:46
naming any brands are all promoting like, like a culture,
47:50
which is bigger than the Islamic community and is inclusive of
47:53
all communities in the west. And How'd you come across things
47:56
which you don't like or which for example don't click with
47:58
your values as a Muslim. So those are three tips that
48:01
I've got in terms of the digital side.
48:03
Everything, dad. Well you've nicely mentioned.
48:08
The digital side to. This isn't a job as a new
48:10
terminology and I like it little patch up this.
48:13
I think something more important is the actual physical social.
48:21
Our discussion here is not, you know, are saying, Go out there
48:26
have fun. Mmm.
48:27
We're just saying having fun in the right way there.
48:29
And there are ways to enjoy your last night outs and free the
48:33
simple there and you can choose where to go.
48:36
You can choose the environments to be in.
48:38
You can choose the friends to have and I think it's very
48:40
important 100%. Yeah.
48:42
You know, I once read somewhere choose your friends that remind
48:46
you to say, hey, let's go or wines.
48:48
ER, that's amazing. You know how friends?
48:50
They'll always tell you. Hey let's go, let's go bowling
48:53
or let's go here but then you have those friends I'll book
48:56
your ticket. Let's go to the other.
48:57
Let's go. See, that's what you did earlier
48:59
tonight by golfers. Are yeah, there you go.
49:02
That's why I'm blessed to have said a little do is my friend
49:04
and co-host, like, Wise Guys, wise this, you just use that
49:08
Amazing World. The Influence, is that influence
49:10
the influence? If you look after, you know,
49:13
your intention, your influence, your friends and your
49:16
environment, you can have as much fun fun.
49:19
By the way, people see Scholars and things like that.
49:21
They think they're not having fun.
49:22
I promise you and I guarantee you They are having an amazing
49:26
time. Yeah, because they're doing at
49:29
all. Sin free within the promises of
49:33
within the premises. Yep.
49:34
Yep. Yep.
49:34
Yep. They're always to have fun.
49:36
I need you can wear your shorts. Just don't worry about your
49:39
knees. You can.
49:40
There's so much things. I need so many things.
49:42
Yeah, yeah. For every problem.
49:44
There is a solution. Yeah, I completely agree.
49:46
You can work on your body and you can be fit and healthy
49:49
without having to show it off. You can be you can do.
49:53
So you can go out and have fun with your boys as long as you're
49:56
trying your best to not put yourself in a position where
49:58
you're in, you might come across an awkward situation.
50:01
So I think these will really good points.
50:03
I want to add last thing you said about company.
50:06
There's a saying, I don't think it's a Hadith, but it's
50:10
something. We've grown up hearing a lot.
50:13
Just generally, actually, which is you are the average of The
50:16
Five People. You spend the most time with.
50:19
I've never heard that one. I'm glad that know.
50:21
I think about me all the time. Subhanallah, me, I love it.
50:25
I love it. It's such an amazing concept
50:28
about company. And obviously, think about the,
50:29
your years, Everyone can map out a timeline in their mind of this
50:33
stage of my life. I was at this place with these
50:34
people and when you think about who were the five people are
50:37
spending the most time with and you think about the influence
50:39
they have on you, how you speak are you swearing are you
50:43
gossiping. Are you backbiting where you
50:47
look? Are they encouraging you to
50:48
watch something? You'll watch and encouraging you
50:51
to go somewhere where you can see something, you shouldn't see
50:53
for example. And that whole concept is a big
50:56
influence on us and obviously the steps we've taken the
50:58
decisions we make in our day-to-day life.
51:00
And modesty and her job is is like you said is a very
51:06
important thing in the physical and social hijab is come hand
51:09
and he go hand in hand, here it goes hand-in-hand.
51:11
You can't, you can't have one without the other and it's
51:14
Halloween. You know, we pray to our last
51:15
month old, there will come a time where we, we are proud of
51:18
our hijab and like inshallah. We talked about the awaited, but
51:22
when our way to savior joins us, you'd be proud and show a lot of
51:25
old out community, and a job. We built Sharla inshaallah, and
51:29
I really hope One listening to this podcast or watching it on
51:32
TV on YouTube, where ever, they are hearing this, yes, to
51:36
inshaa, Allah, take some value that they can point to their own
51:40
lives. Because I know there are
51:42
brothers and sisters out there who face this on a day-to-day
51:45
life at school. At University at the workplace
51:49
could be at home with their extended family.
51:51
Wherever it is. They have the issue of Social
51:53
and digital a job there, always, and there are solutions there
51:56
are there are, you know, alone like everyone's got, everyone's
51:59
had their own, I think. Their own experiences, their own
52:02
challenges, and people overcome these.
52:04
And I think the biggest answer to this to overcome it, get
52:07
married, young. Yeah, get married, young.
52:10
We are going to be releasing episodes at some point in the
52:13
future about marriage, which I'm really excited for this.
52:15
I'm not I heard you are the expert.
52:17
No, no a lot less a lot less time than you have seen but but
52:25
yeah, Bronte sisters are. I just want to say as well?
52:27
This conversation is fascinating, but there's also a
52:29
lot of content on a little bit TV.
52:30
The documentary shows interviews, talking about her
52:33
job both in the physical and social context, so do check it
52:36
out on the a little bit tv, YouTube page and I want to
52:39
mention again, if you are watching on the aftermarket of
52:42
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feedback, your comments. I promise that we are trying our
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52:55
At this point. In time, they may change their
52:57
May progress as a salad unimproved.
52:59
Sorry, your own opinion My my I'd even represents a it.
53:03
So if you have an opinion, represent yourself have a
53:05
problem. Bring up with me and me alone.
53:08
I'm joking but not have the last been good to have everyone
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training in. We welcome your feedback and we
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look forward to seeing you next week.
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Some alaikum to my hero.