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HIST 380: The Dark Ages · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian seagull.
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What's up, buddy? How you been this week, buddy?
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I'm exhausted having a beer. Hey me too.
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Well, I thought, well, I'm an exhausting week between working
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virtual learning what felt like a very long weekend which was a
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lot of fun. Don't get me wrong.
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Yeah. Balls back in other sports going
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on. Yeah.
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But yeah, man. But ready to talk some football
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tonight. You're watching the yeah, I've
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got the Bengals and Browns, the battle for Ohio up on the screen
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here. Got my notes here looking at
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you, we're rolling, pretty good here.
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Got my beer. We actually got to watch real
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life football this past weekend. It was nice especially after the
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Friday surprised by everything that happened after that over
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the course of that long four-day weekend.
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How much do you? It was definitely definitely.
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Nice to have something to kind of distract you from some of the
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sadness there. Well, you have something to
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distract you, your fantasy team, winning my fantasy.
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You know, I texted you and all the people we play with.
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I would have beat everybody. But for people this week and I
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wind up losing fans, it's a 14 Team league.
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So he's actually, there's a little something to brag about
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their like that. And you always talk about, you
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looked at the, we always look at Weekly scores if we lose we
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like, are you serious? Two people in the league.
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Would have beat me and I had to play one of them.
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Are you kidding me? The weeks.
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It's like like everybody would have beat me.
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Huh. I deserve to lose but uh yeah.
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Occasionally get one where you drop out like a 98 Burger but
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you still pull up the win, you're like, oh yes.
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Oh yeah, I said a lot of news going on with the Hokies lot of
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news in general. General in college football.
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So you know, we are going to waste, no time.
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We're going to get right to it. I did not think over the weekend
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brine that the story that broke at the end of last week would
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not be our first story, but unfortunately, it's not as it
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came out. Devin Hunter arrested suspended
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indefinitely off the team. Charged with the Class 6, felony
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strangulation and a class, 1 misdemeanor, assault against a
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family member. You know.
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It's just it, it hurts because this guy has been complimented
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the three years. He's been at Tech hard-working,
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he doesn't take shortcuts. You know, understands growth
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took the red shirt one year and for me personally, Brian, man, I
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hope everything works out for him, on a personal level, he
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makes it back to Virginia Tech football bets.
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That's one thing, I hope his life is sorted because I mean,
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these, This type of charge. I mean this life-altering, you
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know, this isn't you know one of your dumb.
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I got drunk in Public's. Yeah.
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It's a felony and it's a felony. I mean, the, the felony charge
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carries a minimum one year if he's convicted.
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So, I mean, we're talking about serious situation, you know, I'm
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not going to get into the details of what happened.
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And why it happened, just because there's still so much
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that we don't know. I don't want to.
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Say something that ends up getting through telephone ends
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up being something completely different down the road.
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So I'm just going to say, you know, we're thinking about Devin
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we're thinking about the other person that was involved in this
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estimate and we just hope that everyone comes out of this that
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they're able to get on with with their life and be able to do the
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things that they want to do here.
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I just I hate it for the guy from a football perspective
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because again Like you said, he's been doing the right things
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and head of tank team first mentality, and you hate for
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something very Heat of the Moment.
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It seems to kind of take all that and in tear it apart.
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So, absolutely. Now, of course, we address the
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personal side of it, how we kind of both feel, but there's the
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football side of it and, you know, we are we talk for jigna
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Tech football for me and you Brian just a few weeks ago, we
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had already been seen. In hearing that to Mark, poor
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was already going to be playing safe, boundary safety all nickel
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packages. Yep and it seems like if you
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kind of know go through the grapevine even with all the
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stuff going on, he's just going to go there permanently with
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j.r. backing them up. I mean you kind of told me I
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think you've been to know here but you've also mentioned in
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general. This is the thing for tomorrow
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because now you know, so if you said about him in the NFL, in
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this move, Well, I mean to if we're looking at a perfect fit
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for him in the NFL, he's definitely like your
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prototypical, strong safety, he's got the body, he's got the
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ability and coverage, you get the ability against the run
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plays a little bit better facing the ball than he does with his
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back to the ball. So that's something that's going
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to be better for him from a strong safety perspective versus
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any sort of nickel corner or things like that.
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So you know, getting him still a guy that's like in the Box out
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of the box that that's going to be good to get a lot of tape of
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him. That for those NFL Scouts.
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So I like that for him. I like that.
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It's going to be pretty much a natural fit.
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In terms of his skill set. You know the interesting part
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because you move that piece. Now you're looking at who's
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playing that three down position at the whip nickel versus the
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guy that you thought was going to maybe play that for one or
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two downs. And then swap over to the
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boundary safety. When the situation calls for it,
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I'm looking at probably Lee Murray or, or Taylor stepping
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into that position, you know, I'd like to get the whoever, the
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best three cover guys are in the set there.
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I'd like to get them on the field but I don't want to
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sacrifice run support just for the coverage.
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And I think that Taylor and Marie from an inside
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perspective, bring a little bit more to the table than Chapman.
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So again, whoever the the best three are like to see them out
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there, but I think Chapman. Going to be more in position
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playing outside than he would inside.
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So I don't necessarily see that as a role for him.
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So it'll be interesting to see who ends up in the the to deep
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corner and then sliding in there at the at the nickel whip.
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It's true man. But the other piece will kind of
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be interesting when we play you know your pits you Notre.
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Dame's is who's going to more play your treatment the
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linebacker position as tomorrow. Did it was the one upside to
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him? Is sometimes you never had a
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change the defense because tomorrow was good.
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Nothing coverage to where you didn't have to truly, put that
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third corner, I know me. And you talked about we'd like
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to see the third quarter more because we feel like we got
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exposed occasionally for Shamar. He's if you go with this
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spectrum, what these great at what?
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He's just good to average out. It was more coverage stuff so
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I'm wondering if something have they been potentially working
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in, you know, Tisdale are there guys?
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You know, are they looking what they did with Daddy for a while?
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It may be a more a bar? No.
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Remember those first couple years would Daddy.
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He was Essentially just wherever the tight end wasn't, he would
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go there didn't even if it shifted it to him, it would be
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fine, but they were giving. As you've told me before, when
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they motion, they're showing you something in their car, just why
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they're in motion that time in towards him.
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So it will be really interesting.
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And what would probably have been interesting?
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Run would be two days from now, if we'd be playing a game, but
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unfortunately, We are not, we are not playing a game, The Rona
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got us, man, the Roman goddess gotta you know me and you you
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know watching the Rumblings that started some days before the
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12th, but finally it was officially announced.
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It had severely affected the program called Point.
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Couldn't play Mark to Mark Rogers, essentially made that
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ultimate call that we would not be playing, you know, we've had
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the news conference last Last Saturday and basically about the
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safety, the physical, the mental well-being is the top priority
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and of the players and we agree with this.
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And when you start seeing potentially the numbers where it
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was like, maybe 35 to 40 guys at practice.
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And usually, you're looking at over 100, including the
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Walk-Ons, you know, it had to be done and it's weeks and it
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stinks that the game that was supposed to be this.
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Is one that we all were getting hyped for but, you know, it had
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to be done, it did. And you know, anyone following
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this story and any major news Outlet is going to know how much
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crap Virginia Tech has gotten about making this decision, but
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at the end of the day, if you've only got 50 people, that you can
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roll out in a game and half of them are not your starting
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lineup. And Some of them haven't taken
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enough, meaningful snaps where it is, quite quite, literally
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safe to put them on the field. Yeah, that's a problem.
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And that that's a problem that you can't just address and say,
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well, yeah, well we're going to throw one starter two backups
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and to walk ons that offensive line and call it a day and then
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hope your quarterback doesn't get killed in the first quarter
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of the game. You're not going to do that and
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no, nobody's going to do that. And that's why there's some of
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the protocols about having at least. 50.
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And then the amount of offensive lineman in the amount of
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defensive linemen and it all of the ACC, I don't think they've
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released it. There's a certain specific.
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I know the 5355 is like the set number, like you don't have this
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many people that's key number and you have to have a minimum
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of seven, scholarship offensive lineman to play a game and I
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think for scholarship defensive lineman right?
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Yes. So, you know, it makes you know,
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it sucks. But it, Had he done now?
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I think, you know, there's rumors flying around of who
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actually has it, who doesn't, and I personally don't want to
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give him that, that is those guys personal business but just
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true, suggest a feel grind. How do you do you think we have,
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you know, a quarter of the team that subtracted are you think
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we're at a lower number? I think we're at a lower number
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because I think if you looked at the not only, The ACC guidelines
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that are in line with the CDC for for contact tracing and
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positive. In terms of the number of days,
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you have to sit out the contact tracing in the in that language
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is actually left up to the state and locality and the region.
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And the state in general is strenuous relative to some of
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our neighbors and some of our ACC States, as you might would
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guess here. So I'm thinking that contact
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tracing is what is taking out, probably a good 65 to 70 percent
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of of the guys that are missing practice here.
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So you can talk about maybe you know, five or six, maybe
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positives on the team but that's taking out another 25 or 30
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players due to contact tracing and everything else.
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Yeah. And that's the piece that is
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seemingly getting more teams right now than anything.
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It mean, because these guys, they live together, they eat
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together, they practice together.
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They have classes together, um, which kind of begs the question,
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and then you kind of hit on it today.
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Is, are we doing daily test their?
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The rapid response test are out there or almost ninety nine
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point. Six Why aren't we going other
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daily test? And, you know, it would make
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more sense. Because I know you talked about
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the guidelines, you can't have three negatives and then just be
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out. But if you're testing every day,
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you're essentially the NFL. Because those are, you've heard,
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guys all he got a positive. Well then he got three negatives
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in a row and it's like oh he false positive because there's
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no way we test are going to come back. - each early has this just
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based on the science. Yep.
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And you know, it's, it's another thing we were talking about the
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contact tracing and then looking at the rapid test, you decrease
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the footprint of that contact tracing significantly when
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you're only talking about a 24-hour period versus, you know,
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48-72 sometimes even even more than that maybe 96 hours between
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I mean, you know, your last, your last test or your last
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screening and then the one that you're getting at the start of
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the week. So yeah, I think that that's
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something that's going to benefit us.
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I don't understand why more teams are not adopting it
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because it does. I mean, I know it's costly and I
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know that's probably the biggest aspect of it at this point.
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But you would think the ACC would be in a position where
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they could leverage their position to get.
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Those tests of their, their member institutions?
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Yeah. You're right man.
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Now good news is basically what we're seeing or reading.
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The reports are coming out is starting on Tuesday, and it
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seems like every day, it's more and more.
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And we're getting guys back. Out of quarantine, which is good
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because you know, if if it keeps turning this way into Saturday,
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we're playing next week unless they're a massive freaking
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outbreak, which right now you kind of don't see that happening
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just in Montgomery County just a couple days ago compared to what
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it was three weeks ago. It went from like 11 percent
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positive to back under six so it's like it's baked good.
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And now it's starting to Her off, and hopefully it, you know,
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levels out somewhere at or below 3%.
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Because I think if we're if we're in that range, we're
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probably doing. Okay?
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Yeah. If you're high, if we're higher
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than five consistently than, that's not great, but probably
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doable, if you're above 10% consistently, that's going to be
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a struggle every week for everybody.
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Let me ask this brown because the way it seems guys are coming
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back slowly. And let's say, even guys, Urban
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early next week, start, I'm back.
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What do you do for guys who are missing?
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Practice days? Is it, do you have to treat it
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almost like a physical ailment but they can't even be on the
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field. They can't even be getting
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treatment. They can't be out there.
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I mean essentially they're locked in their apartment or in
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their dorm room. You know what can you do?
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Jamie back to the time of you've been, you know you couldn't get
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on the field or you had mates. And what did you guys do for
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them to give you some perspective of what probably,
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they're trying to get these guys to do.
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So let's say one of the players. You can get them filled
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Wednesday. Well when stays want to practice
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that a walk through Thursday, final walk through Friday.
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Yeah, I mean the big thing is going to be mental reps because
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right now they can't take physical reps and they're not
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able to physically be able to watch from the sidelines.
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So I don't know what they have set up in terms of getting these
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kids film of practice, where they can kind of take those
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mental reps. See what?
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Our players were doing a practice where they went wrong
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things, they that they can prove improve on, I don't know if
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they're watching film from practices from previous week's
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when they were in on drills to see where they can improve and
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try to get those mental reps up at the big thing that they can
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do. Right now is again those mental
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reps because you can't really replace anything else other than
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trying to get better and understand your role, your job
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and how that works within the framework of the offense or the
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defense depending on what side of the The ball, you're on.
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I feel bad for these guys. I mean, you're talking about
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pretty much shutting it down for up, to two weeks and then having
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to wrap it back up, right away. And, you know, even somebody
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coming off of injury, would kind of ease them back into it,
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whether it's number of reps at practice or number of reps in a
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game, but you're talking about going from nothing from all to
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nothing, back to all. And just, you know, the way your
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body's going to react to, that is going to be You're saying
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now, it's going to definitely be really interesting.
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Well, with all that breaking obviously, it put the Virginia,
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Virginia Tech Will Clash back, which was announced today.
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To December 12. So in its rightful spot right by
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its rightful spot. That's right.
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I think David teal broke it. That the ACC very shortly after
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August 26, had essentially went to UVA and said, hey, Would you
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be willing to move it up to the twelfth UVA?
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Said, no, for whatever reason, and that's, that's their
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prerogative. But that might have been a
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mistake for them honestly, because if you kind of read the
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tea leaves, I think probably if they chose to play we probably
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could have fielded a team probably with maybe 60%.
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Of our starters. Mr. Campbell of what we're like
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me and you just kind of seeing what we're seeing.
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So they might have screwed themselves in the ass saying, I
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don't know, we don't want to play right now.
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Yeah. Well I think we'll see what if
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they would have moved it. We would have had a hard time
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saying, we can't, we harder time saying we can't play.
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I think we could have played. Yeah, I think had enough guy to
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play and it would have looked weird.
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They would have been certain guys, not there and as soon as
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we saw it, we would have been one of those first team.
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This being a Our team knowing where someone so crap or so.
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And so, where's gz, good thing, good man.
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What the ball today? Yeah, I mean, it's one of those
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things where, you know, UVA may have screwed themselves and may
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have inadvertently given us a little bit of a van out there
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because again, if they had moved, moved up the game, just
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decided to move up the game and then we looking like, Hey, we're
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not going to quite be there that we It would have been a harder
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harder for us to make that call, I think so.
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I think they ended up throwing us a bone in that, that regard
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not taking the reschedule but at this point we're looking at
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December 12th so we'll thought was going to be a extended.
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Hey tweek no becomes a pause for three months.
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Yeah let's just say that. I bronsted some other big news
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on college football landscape the Big Ten, they reneged and
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decided they're going to play this year.
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That pressure was a bitch. Wasn't it?
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It's funny like you know it was kind of made into a political
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issue but I mean they were getting flak from all sides to
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bring things back based on what the of the what based on what
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everybody else was doing, even on campus at those schools.
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Like if you got them on in the schools at the schools, going to
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class, doing all this other stuff, and might as well be
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playing football too. Kevin one power play.
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Yeah, you need screwed it because what he doesn't realize,
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is the south is so much has so much more strength between the
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south central part of the country, the Texas, Oklahoma was
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in the world of football and he screwed the pooch because you've
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heard people say it like all they last few days, you know,
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what they should have done a month ago.
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Hey, we're just going to see where everything is a month from
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now. Does anybody say anything to
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them? No, no.
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They would look like they were taking a cautious approach to
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it. They might have been criticized
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by some of the heavy SEC folks, but the fact that they were
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playing wait and see would have played well across most of the
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country exactly. Now, just a few things Brian,
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hey, it's good to have them back.
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I like a lot of, you know, love watching some of those games at
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noon. Even the Later games is as much
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as I don't like Penn State, Ohio State, just because they went
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all the damn time. Same with Michigan, it's usually
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some good games. So for our viewing appetite,
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it's wonderful. Yep.
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What we're seeing here is a few break down a couple things.
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They're only going to play Eight Games, Starting on October 24th,
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with a championship on the 19th of December.
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And Brian. I'm just kind of sitting here
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looking at my Calendar and I'm doing some counting 1 2 3 4 5 6
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7 8. They can't miss any games, they
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can not miss any games and if they do, they are running the
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risk of even an undefeated team, not making the college football.
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Playoff if that's the goal because at eight, they're still
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going to be under every other conference in terms of number
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games. So right now we don't have it
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play out, but if if a perfect world happens, everybody He gets
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to play there. Set number games are going to be
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two to three below. Everybody.
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Yeah which is pretty big but I think is just fans.
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It's nice to see that happen. It looks like it like a little
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Domino tilted over because now the Pac-12 looks like they're
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trying to come back to Mountain. West is trying to come back.
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And again, if all these conferences and even like the
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mac and stuff all these conference and had just instead
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of saying we're going to shut it down, Use common sense and say
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things are changing about this virus every single hour, not
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even day, our there's something you breaking, just put it on.
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If you felt right now, it's not safe enough to play.
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Nobody ain't going to say anything to you.
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It's your decision. So they what they should have
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done is said whenever they made the decision that they couldn't
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start right now is essentially held a meeting amongst the
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presidents in. He's every two weeks and
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re-evaluate the situation until they felt good calling one way.
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Or the other, I would see if you keep pushing back eventually you
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have to call it and say we're moving it to the spring full
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stop. Yeah, which is pretty much.
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In any any time you're starting after the middle of October or
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late October you're going to you're saying, you have to push
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it back to the fall. They'll be to the spring.
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But until then, you can meet every two weeks.
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And as long as you have like a four to six week period to Gear
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up. Yeah, you're good exactly now
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where they're going to have to make the decisions where I think
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there could get screwed. If they do have to miss games,
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is you if they miss two or three games, you're going to have a
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team that's 5 and 0. And you know, could be of how
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the state and the playoff committee say you just haven't
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played enough, like we know you're a pretty good team but
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you know you know you mean you made me throw this out at your
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Brawn but for you Tech is 12 and up Clemson's you know, or Notre
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Dame's 11 and 1 Alabama's undefeated Oklahoma's.
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A we got to take these guys, they played more teams.
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They proven that they can do it throughout a whole And that's
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where they're going to. They're going to have to get
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screwed. I'm also wondering and you tell
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me it wouldn't I've heard some I can't remember who said this
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today. I listen to a podcast Radio
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Stations so if one of those people listen to this, I'm not
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trying to steal your thunder butt.
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If you're them, do you stack your big matchups early like
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like opening weekend, you say screw it.
26:05
Penn State, Ohio, State, Michigan Wisconsin, In the
26:09
effort to get never to get them out of the way.
26:11
While you're still got a little control of things.
26:14
Like, for example, let's say Penn State runs and plays
26:17
Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and then go five and over 6 and
26:22
then things get canceled on the backend.
26:24
At least you can say, hey we played really good teams and big
26:27
them all. It's true, it's true.
26:29
Yeah. I mean, I get what you're saying
26:31
there. You know, it just looking at
26:34
this whole situation with big Ten's, power, play and Pac-12.
26:39
L've kind of following suit their you know, I don't it's
26:44
weird that they didn't consider that the entire South and the
26:47
most populous Corridor in the country would have significant
26:51
weight behind them to get a season going.
26:54
If they could they would just follow suit of the no offense of
26:59
these guys with the flyover states.
27:04
What did I mean? Do they really anticipate that
27:07
everyone was just going to fold when Maybe I think that
27:11
arrogant, that's it that's that's the arrogance of what
27:14
they thought. They thought that, you know,
27:16
we're Ohio, State and Michigan and you know, whatever we say
27:19
they're just going to do and, you know, the ACC and Notre Dame
27:24
and the SEC and text us in Oklahoma more like nah, dawg.
27:29
We don't play that like we've got, you know, the ACC is, you
27:33
know, up the 95 Corridor. Two teams in Florida.
27:36
A team in Georgia, a team in South Carolina.
27:40
Little different down there, even here in the state of
27:42
Virginia, where we're not playing and people are still
27:44
angry about it because it's like everybody else is playing.
27:47
The kids are staying home. The kids are staying home.
27:52
Why can't they just go from their house to practice back to
27:56
their house and then come for the games on something if you
27:59
don't want fans. That's fine.
28:00
Yeah, so yeah, it is what it is. But yeah, they overplayed their
28:04
hand had to go back on. It, makes Kevin warm.
28:07
Look foolish. Look foolish makes them look
28:10
like someone that is either playing politics or went with
28:14
the knee-jerk reaction to skate liability, or even more
28:19
nefarious to take away. The bargaining chip of the
28:24
players in terms of getting image, image, and likeness
28:29
things rolling, their and other players Centric appeals that
28:33
were going on due to covid. So, because he doesn't look good
28:37
in either three of those scenarios.
28:39
Rio's. So but you know why I'm looks
28:41
good. Brian Does that mean you're good
28:44
though? For me and you on Saturdays?
28:46
Yep, it's a good game on now. We got more of them.
28:51
More will be on. Absolutely, I'm not going to
28:54
complain about more football. I'm going to use some very
28:59
coarse language and we use coarse language in here.
29:01
We're adults the Dead period has been extended to January 1st
29:06
2021. What the actual fuck?
29:13
Yeah, why you doing this in c-double-a?
29:18
It makes no fucking sense. And, you know, you can I know
29:24
some people have said well, the concerned about spreading the
29:27
virus bringing people on campus, trust me trust us.
29:32
If people were going to those schools, they were probably
29:35
going to be tested in quarantine like, listen, you need to get in
29:38
Thursday. We're going to test you
29:39
Thursday, we're going to test your Friday.
29:40
We're going to wrap a test, you Saturday, if you test positive,
29:43
Positive in your hotel room. Three straight days.
29:45
Then you can or - 3 straight days, then you can come to
29:47
campus. I don't know.
29:50
Play in this. You let the most of these kids
29:52
are going to school virtually right now.
29:54
So, it's not like even a scheduling situation we're
29:59
looking at it at this situation where You got all these kids on
30:04
campus. You got all these kids coming
30:06
from around the country, but you don't want to have you know a
30:09
handful of kids from Delray Beach.
30:13
Come up for a day and a half, two days who's under pretty much
30:20
a situation where they're not, you know, going to be Going into
30:26
into the buildings like they would under a normal visit, I
30:29
would imagine anyway, I'm sure that this will be a highly
30:33
modified campus visit compared to what a typical official visit
30:39
would be anyway. But now you've got the Dead
30:42
period push past the early signing period so I'm not sure
30:45
what that's even going to look like at this point.
30:47
Like is there even going to be the expectation like it normally
30:52
is a verbals that haven't had official visits to sign.
30:55
On early Signing Day. Like, what's that?
30:57
What are the ramifications of the Dead period being pushed to
31:00
January 1? What the ramifications are also
31:03
this? If some of those kids, start D
31:05
commending, don't sign the dotted line who's to say they're
31:07
ever going to actually make it a campus?
31:09
Yeah I mean because the the signing day is only six weeks
31:13
after that's not a lot of time now so I honestly don't get it.
31:19
I think I personally feel good about our class.
31:26
There is, you know, a few guys out there.
31:29
You know, you want to get in, you want to get on the boat,
31:31
there's a couple guys out there, I'm sure we're still pushing
31:34
like crazy for. I think there's a couple of guys
31:38
were probably pushing the flip. So, I mean that that'll be
31:40
interesting to see. We get probably less leverage
31:44
with that without being able to get any of those guys on
31:46
officials. Now at least ahead of early
31:48
signing so that that part sucks. I feel like Anticipated, a big
31:53
flip season that I don't know if we're going to necessarily see.
31:57
Because no officials are happening to really sway these
32:01
kids significantly off their current verbal.
32:03
Well worse. Feel really sorry for and we've
32:10
we've got a couple that haven't come down.
32:14
I don't think Trey Curry ever is come but it seems like he's a
32:20
couple tweets and stuff from him over the last month seems like
32:22
he's probably pretty much in. Yeah, but you shut it, shut it
32:25
down. Anybody coming.
32:27
Out of he's been shutting down so that's a good sign where I
32:30
really feel more sorry for and maybe it's just because we're
32:34
biased against mm. It's the lower kids who are
32:37
committed to Blue Bloods right now.
32:41
Who aren't having a chance to go.
32:43
Because there's a lot of times they get there and they feel
32:46
essentially that cold and they really don't want me here.
32:50
They're right there on those Delmas negatively.
32:53
Recruiting me to get out of my verbal, they're mad that I've
32:56
got a place on the boat right now and they're, they're not.
33:01
I mean, some of them will outright just push them out.
33:03
And some of them will be like cold shoulder to the point where
33:06
they start to reconsider their commitment.
33:09
So, You see like a few weeks after an official they
33:12
decommitted like. No, that's not great.
33:15
So yeah. But um, so yeah, NCAA.
33:18
I don't know why you're doing this.
33:21
If anything, it should be. We're going to have stayed
33:25
guidelines open because the honest route.
33:28
Do you think do you think the coaches want any kid but
33:32
thinking from out of town coming out with potentially girolamo?
33:35
No, no. Good morning control freaks.
33:38
Anyway, put this element in there and say Can I tell you
33:40
why, the ncaa's making this call what?
33:44
Because they are not willing to risk liability.
33:49
It's the only way you can potentially, thank even though
33:51
you feel like it would be the university itself.
33:54
The university itself is responsible for that.
33:56
Not the NCAA in sea level. May just handcuffing people.
34:01
Fancy double-a is like they always do is that they
34:05
understand up the things that they should be handling and
34:08
overstep. The things that they have really
34:10
no business governing, whatever. Likewise a in five months,
34:17
should we have come up with Corona guidelines, you know,
34:19
rosters. How many people there isn't it?
34:22
Yeah, that would be really good. Now, we're not gonna do that.
34:24
Oh, no, we're not going to touch that.
34:26
Okay, then what are you going to do?
34:28
Don't this will visits until January and it?
34:33
Yeah, pretty much. That's all we're doing for you
34:37
again. Yeah, actually.
34:39
All right. So Grand, as you mentioned and
34:43
we mentioned The beginning of the show there was actually
34:46
games last week and real actual, you actual games that counted
34:52
and me and you kind of discussed and we were like we watch some
34:56
of the game's highlights with the stat line dread some
34:59
recordings and we're going to look at for future opponents for
35:07
the Hokies that played what we feel like they played good
35:10
enough teams or you could get something off of it.
35:12
So we are leaving off pit. It, they played off-key
35:15
Stampy's, a FCS school, not going to count that.
35:19
So let's start with this last Thursday night.
35:22
We were here, sipping on some Brews.
35:24
You had your command center up. I had the cave here rolling and
35:27
we were watching Miami. Brian, as we were sitting here
35:33
watching, where's the new joking?
35:35
And we just look at each other and were like at offensive line
35:38
still horrible. Yes, they are.
35:41
They are bad. I would say they are maybe
35:47
little skosh better run blocking this year than they were last
35:51
year. Passed Pro is just as bad,
35:56
anytime that King had more than a three-step drop, he had a guy.
36:00
On his left sometimes three-step drops, he had a gun in his lap
36:09
there, they're going to be a little better on offense because
36:12
of his athleticism, but if teams can keep him in the pocket, he
36:18
is going to struggle because he will not have time to throw the
36:21
ball. But he is a very, very talented
36:25
quarterback. He was a little rusty with his
36:27
accuracy in some instances but We are poised player, did make
36:34
bad decisions, even when he didn't make the right throw or
36:37
was completely accurate. On the throw, he didn't
36:39
necessarily do anything to hurt the team.
36:41
So I think he's going to be good for them but I don't think
36:45
they're being going to be able to really take a significant
36:48
step on the offensive side of the ball as long as an offensive
36:50
line is playing that way. Absolutely.
36:53
Yeah. King solid, kind of what we
36:56
expected from him. It was again, you a, because
36:59
he's a solid. Added group of five team.
37:01
So nothing there didn't. It wasn't anything?
37:04
Spectacular. I think a lot of people thought
37:06
he was going to go in and just be unbelievably spectacular and
37:09
you know you know put 375 total yards up all around or 400 total
37:14
yards up and multiple touchdowns and he did.
37:18
Now, the one thing I noticed in, I hit you this camera.
37:22
If I hit you on Thursday night after we'd gotten off here, or
37:25
hit you the next morning, but I hit you.
37:27
And I said, Brian. I got a staff for you, you take
37:30
out their big chunk plays, and they had about six on the
37:33
ground. They averaged less than four
37:35
yards of Rush. That's not good.
37:38
Not against the caliper of UAB. No, you tell me if against
37:42
Florida State and Marvin Wilson or it's against Florida State,
37:47
excuse me, Clemson. I'd be like, okay, well, that's
37:50
okay. You almost got 24 against UAB.
37:53
It's a little bit scary for them and you Me as we were discussing
38:00
today and they miss Russo on that defense, but he definitely
38:05
risks Russo on the defense. And like you said, with the
38:07
running game, like I said, I think it's a little bit
38:09
improved, but you mentioned the six plays that were there were
38:13
good. Chunk plays.
38:15
Two of them were completely defensive breakdowns by you.
38:19
April one was the safety. Fill one of the safety field.
38:24
We were talking about it last week.
38:26
One was the safety field. Fill the wrong Gap and he Sue's
38:33
yard touchdown, 60 65 yards. Something like that.
38:37
It seemed like yards death. Yeah 60 yards on fourth and one.
38:41
So now they've been like if Theta just fill the Gap properly
38:46
they probably get the stop there and get a short field against
38:50
Miami but unfortunately it was seven points the other direction
38:54
and then there was a big scramble that King had I think
38:56
was about 40 yards. About four missed tackles on
39:00
that 40-yard run. And and I know some people are
39:05
like, oh, but you have to count the chunk plays but it's not so
39:08
much you need chunk Place. Yeah.
39:10
But if you're depending on chunk plays that much, you start
39:13
looking at the average and is saying you Brian was just
39:17
lighting up. You a be like if these guys
39:19
could just make a tackle, not ten in a row a tackle but that's
39:27
the piece it's like, Both chuckling great.
39:30
But if you're getting chunk plays, but your average is when
39:33
you take them away as way down, it's one of those again.
39:37
It's one of those things where you're going to get in the game
39:40
that teams that what normally would go 35 yard.
39:43
When they stop you at 12:00 is you don't have that shifting
39:48
other field, you don't have that momentum breaker.
39:49
You don't have that touchdown run and it making you grind it
39:54
off and also these chunk plays aren't coming on beating the
39:57
defense. He's Plays are coming on the
39:59
defense beating themselves, that makes you feel less confident
40:03
about those chunk plays. It's not like oh I drew up a
40:06
seam that you know we executed perfectly and you know
40:10
quarterback looked off the safety and then through to this
40:13
like it wasn't that it was missed tackles and a safety
40:17
going in the wrong Gap. Yeah, we're going to find out
40:22
about them on a lot about them on Saturday.
40:25
We're going to talk about Louis Vuitton a little while here but
40:27
I want to hit the net. Next one UNC.
40:30
I watched a ton of that game. I was a pretty much at the house
40:34
all day Saturday, doing my usual Saturday routine.
40:38
They offense, look Rusty it. You know it didn't look like
40:44
what we saw last year where consistently moving the ball?
40:49
Sam looking good. He had two pics here we have I
40:53
think six last year maybe eight so he's ours.
40:57
Yeah he had six. Last year, he's already a third
40:59
of the way there, through the first game against Syracuse.
41:04
You know, what did you kind of take from the pieces?
41:06
You saw know, you had some stuff going on during that games, you
41:09
only caught pieces here and there.
41:10
What did you catch really from? Let's go the offense part for
41:12
you and C. So the offense I'm with you on
41:16
the inconsistent play, especially the first three
41:18
quarters. I don't know if they just had a
41:21
wake-up call or realize, what the hell are we doing?
41:26
But, you know, you go into the forest.
41:28
Fourth quarter, and it's very narrow margin in the end up
41:31
covering, but it was an ugly cover.
41:37
So, listen, I've told you my perspective on this.
41:41
They won that game by we're down.
41:43
They did not, they did not flawlessly executed, put a
41:46
beat-down, they won that game by a we're down.
41:49
And That makes a lot of questions come up because again,
41:55
UNC has some Talent. But when it gets to a level of
42:01
you're not playing Syracuse, whose offensive line is the
42:03
third worst in the ACC and you're sacking them behind
42:07
times. Probably Syracuse's that their
42:10
offensive line is that bad but they don't have that skill to
42:14
fall back on that your fsu's in Miami's do like at least they
42:18
have talented position guys at this at the skill position that
42:21
can sometimes make up for. That lack.
42:25
But Syracuse isn't there? I mean they've got some they got
42:28
some guys that can do some things but they're not talented
42:31
across the board at the skill positions like Miami and Fs you
42:34
were. They can really make up for
42:35
their lack of town when we almonds and wine which means
42:38
that Syracuse could move the ball.
42:40
And yet still here we are talking about UNC not being able
42:43
to take advantage of that until the fourth quarter.
42:46
Well yeah and I texted you a few times during the game.
42:49
There were a couple times the defense Syracuse drove a few
42:52
times on them. They just didn't punch it in.
42:55
So, the bended right philosophy is great but I remember
42:59
specifically hitting you in the second quarter saying when UNC
43:02
plays a team that doesn't struggle to punch it in and if
43:05
that offense doesn't get back in sync with, they're going to be
43:09
in trouble with because There's no 13 or 14 games.
43:16
Technically of saying how including Syracuse game in?
43:19
That was the first time. He didn't look like himself,
43:24
their offensive line, playing okay and then a couple bead
43:28
running, you know the the Williams kid breaking a couple
43:32
runs and punch it in. You can't do that.
43:37
They're not gonna be able to do that against Notre Dame.
43:39
I don't think they can do that against us.
43:43
You know, my even Miami. There's any clues.
43:47
They can't do that against and if they do, they're going to put
43:50
it all back on, Sam's arm and people say, well, he did it last
43:53
year, but again, there's more tape.
43:56
This is what they like to do with him here.
43:57
This is what they like. Can you take the step?
44:01
And I don't know, it's interesting, they won but not
44:05
with these. Trinity Force.
44:06
They didn't go up 24, nothing and then just ease off.
44:10
They literally were scrapping looking back door covered on me.
44:15
Yeah, I mean that's one of the bottom four teams in the
44:17
conference. So it's not like you were
44:19
playing some sort of world beater or teen that, you know,
44:22
should have stuck with them for three quarters.
44:26
So if this is the team that supposed to be the first team
44:30
that you mention after Notre Dame and Clemson that won't it,
44:35
go on it. True.
44:37
Now, do you think play the team Notre?
44:42
Dame, what do you think of Dukes performance?
44:48
Duke did kind of what I expected them to, but they hung in there
44:52
longer than I expected them to. So Duke.
44:56
I mean, cutcliffe, he's a great coach, he prepares them.
44:59
Well, they always have a good game plan and they always
45:04
execute well, They usually are just they don't, they can't
45:09
match up with teams in the ACC talent for talent.
45:13
So they try to out executes, you and Out game plan.
45:15
You and depending on how long you, let them hang around and
45:19
how well you execute is going to depend on it if they're there at
45:23
the end or if they're going to get the win, do coming around
45:27
for a good while there and then eventually Talent took over.
45:30
But I like the, the debut for Chase Bryce was pretty good, I
45:35
think. think he's going to be one of the I'd say one of the
45:38
better quarterbacks that Duke has had and that that includes a
45:43
couple guys that have played in the NFL so that that's saying
45:46
something there and I think they're kind of like a
45:51
middle-of-the-pack like probably like Mid third, tier team,
45:59
probably probably number 9 or 10 in the ACC.
46:02
Yeah. Hiccups happen, not punching it
46:31
in was one of them. They kicked a field goal versus
46:34
a versus scoring, a touchdown, like inside the five, that's not
46:39
the perfect plan, you know, I'm not.
46:43
I want to tell him, I mean, am I worried about do in some ways?
46:47
Yes, because if it come in with a great game plan, And we're
46:50
off, it's going to be it's going to be a dogfight.
46:52
And, you know, you don't want dogfights, but they just got
46:58
worn down. And again, the better teams will
47:02
wear down the, the Lesser teams but I think you put Duke where
47:08
he said you put them in the bottom.
47:09
Third. I think you put them upper half
47:11
bottom upper half of the bottom third for you.
47:14
The lower half of the second third because Bryce did play
47:18
good enough. To potentially, he could have
47:21
one of those games where he does play to the top of his level,
47:25
and he could be somebody. I hope that's not any time in
47:28
the next month, but it being November.
47:33
All right, we're going to a bar on Louisville Louisville, by a
47:39
lot of people, you talked, about you.
47:42
And Stevie, and third. I've seen Louisville, third a
47:44
ton. How much did you get to see this
47:47
game on Saturday night? This was another Other one where
47:50
I was kind of there about half the time, so I didn't get a get
47:53
to see a ton of it. But what I did see and we had
47:56
talked about a little bit, we were texting, you know, when we
47:59
look at their offense, it's predicated on the big Play.
48:04
It's predicated on speed, speed and getting junkyards, and chunk
48:10
plays. All I got is that so I'ma let
48:15
you throw the stand out there because I know you've got it
48:17
there but they really Hit the homerun for their offense to
48:21
function. At least it did in this game.
48:24
I don't know if it'll be more consistent as we go forward.
48:27
I did like to their defense a little bit more than I like them
48:31
last year. I think they're slightly
48:32
improved, their little bit better at the top end.
48:36
I think they're going to not be as susceptible to giving up tons
48:41
of points. Like they were in some areas
48:43
last year so that that should help them a little bit,
48:46
especially if their offense gets going, but I'll let you throw
48:48
the big step. Out there, as far as their their
48:52
yards per play there. Yeah.
48:54
We gotta break this down into several different categories.
48:57
Are first of all, they are in 71 plays on Saturday.
49:00
That's a pretty good number. Yep.
49:03
Okay. They had 487 total yards and you
49:07
do that math apps. That's pumping what over?
49:09
Six yards? A play, almost close to seven.
49:15
202 of those yards, came on for plays.
49:21
For, that's an average of 50 and a half yards per play on those
49:26
four. Massive home, run plays.
49:29
So on the other 67 plays, if you do the average out, Brian
49:32
they're averaging four point two yards per play which is that's
49:36
yeah. Usually tell me you want to
49:40
team, averaging five. Yeah.
49:42
Right. Five.
49:43
Yeah. You want five yards per play if
49:45
you're hitting it, five per play.
49:48
Even if you take out chunk, please, if you're still
49:50
averaging five per plate, you're running over teams, you're
49:53
basically getting a first down and every to please and it was
49:57
that thing. We talked about them that speed
49:59
that home run, they had to hit home runs and I watched I
50:03
watched that game a little more closely in your in but as I was
50:08
watching it kind of halfway on the first half.
50:12
If they didn't hit a home run, they were kind of stalling, they
50:16
run 3521 in. But again, the you see what you
50:22
can do, it's almost like, listen, for some, to drive the
50:25
field, sit and cover, three cover for in like, pick it apart
50:29
that game. If, if we were to, if we win
50:34
that game, They're yak and their yards.
50:39
After contact will be low, if that if it is low will win that
50:43
game. If that is medium to high buckle
50:47
up, get your booze ready because it's going to be well, not fun.
50:52
But an exciting game to watch. Yeah.
50:54
Again a lot of them you mentioned it defense played okay
50:59
versus the competition. We find out a lot 7:30 Saturday
51:04
night. And it's going to be interesting
51:10
to see how Miami and Louisville play each other.
51:12
We are going to probably we're going to pick that one here in
51:15
just a few minutes Prine. But anything else on Louisville,
51:19
anything else? You saw that caught your eye
51:21
last weekend? Now, that's the big thing.
51:22
I mean, we hit that with the major points their defense a
51:25
little bit better. Depending on the Home Run, still
51:29
be determine how well they're going to be.
51:31
I mean, definitely, I'm putting them in the top.
51:35
Definitely top half probably top third of the conference but I
51:40
just don't know. There's a lot of unsettled
51:44
chairs there between three and six and I don't know exactly
51:47
where some of these teams are going to shake out when all is
51:51
said and done. But I definitely think they're
51:53
probably right there at the cusp of the top third, right now, how
51:59
high they go is to be determined Well let's get to it, Braun, as
52:05
we did last week, we're going to pick this week.
52:07
We're going to pick for ACC games versus each other.
52:11
We're going to do one ACC out of conference and then one other
52:15
out of conference game of the week.
52:17
Last week I was three. And three, Brian, you were two
52:21
and four, I'll get better as a couple.
52:27
I had a couple that came close to hitting that a couple that I
52:30
was way off on. Well, the coastal game hopeful
52:37
game. Yeah, that's one just just never
52:40
come anybody about that one. Well, they actually do be like
52:44
Kansas is bad left. He sucks.
52:49
I took Kansas given six and I was way off was that you had to
53:01
Clemson. I was wrong on that one and then
53:04
you had the Louisville game, which we both were right on, we
53:08
missed on the Syracuse UNC game, the back door, cover the Notre
53:15
Dame game. We were a little bit off on that
53:18
one, I didn't feel as bad about that one because it seemed like
53:24
when they got into the grind Fest late.
53:26
I got back in here late because we went played outside with the
53:29
kids for a while, but you kind of saw like Notre Sam wasn't
53:32
risking anything like like they probably could have hit the 20
53:35
but it was just like Ryan Ryan was just like, no we're not
53:40
going to do anything stupid here.
53:42
We could probably score a touchdown maybe even ten point.
53:45
But no we're not going to do that but this week Brian, let's
53:48
start with this one, a team we've seen team, we talked about
53:51
earlier today versus one, team's first game, Boston College
53:55
versus Duke, do you claim five and a half points?
53:59
This game. I don't know where it is.
54:01
Give me A a minute efforting and for Dina don't have that up
54:05
tonight. I don't mean that game will be
54:17
Somewhere, it will be in a bubble.
54:20
While it's wage, may be essentially a bubble even when
54:24
there are fans. Hey, I brown, what you think on
54:28
this one. You know, I've got data on Duke,
54:32
so give me dude. All right, so do you claim the
54:35
five and a half? Alrighty, this is a tough one
54:41
for me but I don't think five and a half is enough points.
54:46
For this one, I think I'll take DC in the points especially with
54:50
BC getting their quarterback essentially approved before
54:54
Raheem got approved. Quarterbacks other half will be
54:59
good enough. I don't know who's going out
55:01
right when this game, I think it'll be closer than the
55:03
experts. Think, you know, losing a guy to
55:06
get drafted in the second round is a lot but I'm going to take
55:11
DC. So we're disagreeing on the
55:12
first one here. Okay, have a feel.
55:15
We're going to agree on this one cuse.
55:19
Circus, playing pit pit Lane 21 and a half, lock it up.
55:24
The cues is going to cover because I don't know how anybody
55:27
can trust. Kenny, Pickett to beat a team by
55:29
more than three scores. If you, if you trust that you've
55:35
trust what you keep hearing from all the pit guys, and a couple
55:42
of guys, in the National media that picking his teeth, Turning
55:46
the corner this year, ladies and gentlemen, turning the corner
55:50
taking the next step. If they can't run the ball and
55:56
he's not going to take the next step and I don't think they run
55:58
the ball, any better I don't like cues but I like Houston
56:03
enough to cover with 21 and a half points.
56:08
And by the way, his stat line last week against Austin Peay
56:11
was 14 of 2277, he had one touchdown.
56:14
Yeah. And people were raving about him
56:19
tearing it up like know. What did 277 is in 14 and 20 is
56:27
not essentially tearing it up. Only seven is fine, but the one
56:31
touchdown and just okay completion percentage.
56:38
Exactly. Exactly.
56:39
So we're I had a feeling we were going to agree on that I think
56:42
you know I think probably wins the game outright but I mean
56:46
it's probably somewhere especially without the big guy
56:49
in the middle there. Shit.
56:51
It's probably somewhere. where, 2110.
56:57
Somewhere like that ugly ugly somewhere between 10 and 14,
57:02
point feels right. I'm Rob three scores and in the
57:07
in a kicker there doesn't feel right and and that game is let's
57:12
see just for folks to know that game is going to be in
57:17
Pittsburgh. So another normal normally
57:20
situation behinds. Alright.
57:23
Here's kind of the first one where it's going to be.
57:26
A little bit, I would say a little bit different Wake,
57:32
Forest NC State in Raleigh. So what you will usually
57:38
carter-finley. Usually at least 75 percent
57:41
full, it's got a good vibe to it.
57:46
NC State LA in two and a half. So you saw they played Clemson,
57:56
that gives you absolutely no variety,
58:13
which is probably one of the better off campus venues in the
58:18
SEC. I would I would probably get
58:23
leniency State normally. I'm still going to go in Sea
58:31
State. I think it's going to be a tight
58:32
game but I think they'll cover it'll be.
58:35
It'll be a large one score. Somewhere in the 626 date range.
58:41
All right, I've had a not so fast right there, we mentioned
58:46
in see wake Into Me Faith, building a lot on their offense.
58:52
Their offense is very young, freshman quarterback.
58:56
I think we're going to win this game.
58:57
I think. Do I think they're going to win
58:58
it outright, I think they'll cover because even watching that
59:03
Clemson game Clemson did have to work to score.
59:08
They had worked at school, it wasn't you.
59:10
And you know again what? Like we were kind of like well,
59:15
it's Clemson's defense going to be like, yeah, it's awake but
59:17
they're still they're good. They might not be great, but
59:19
they're good, but I think I'm going to take wake on this one,
59:23
okay. Okay.
59:24
All right. Pretty much whoever you're
59:26
taking. You're pretty much saying is
59:27
going to outright win with a two and a half spread their exactly.
59:33
All right. Let's go to this one next Brian.
59:36
Georgia Tech Central Florida. You know, this would actually be
59:43
a really good barometer game for Georgia Tech.
59:46
It isn't it Lana, you know home dogs.
59:52
What do you think? Brian actually, I'll take this
59:54
one. Brian first only do, I'll leave
59:57
this one is as nice as it was for the Georgia Tech.
1:00:02
Quinn last week, I still don't think they're all there.
1:00:06
Even though with the questions UCF has at quarterback, I still
1:00:12
think they're good enough, composed team that they can go
1:00:15
into Atlanta and win by more than a touchdown, probably
1:00:20
somewhere 24:14 range. I think you definitely saw
1:00:25
Georgia Tech. It's it ain't their offensive ly
1:00:28
at the defense's, okay, so I'm going to take UCF.
1:00:32
Lay the seven and a half. What about you?
1:00:37
Not so fast. My friend.
1:00:42
I'm not so sure about what ucf's got at quarterback.
1:00:46
I've liked what I've seen from Georgia Tech they are playing at
1:00:49
home. I know that doesn't matter as
1:00:51
much as it normally does, but I think it's going to matter just
1:00:55
enough. And I think that we're going to
1:00:59
see a Georgia Tech team that look good out the gate and
1:01:03
probably looks even a little bit better in game two.
1:01:09
Now that they've knocked some rust off.
1:01:10
So I'm going to take Georgia Tech.
1:01:13
I can't believe I'm saying it Georgia Tech.
1:01:16
You are not, you are welcome last week like me, you're
1:01:19
getting on board this week with them so it could be.
1:01:24
I just, I just feel like UCF just having multiple years.
1:01:28
I know some guys opted out, but I just don't think it's enough.
1:01:30
And I think you, you, you dropped me, you did watch a lot
1:01:34
of the Georgia Tech msq game and you, you said that bleep And
1:01:38
Delay, because I think you probably felt that this, you win
1:01:41
by more than 10 points, if there's no weather delay for
1:01:45
like doing it, Because after playing outside with the kids I
1:01:49
come in at steelhead 3/4 of a game.
1:01:52
That's right. Yeah.
1:01:52
You didn't hardly miss anything. I miss anything.
1:01:56
All right, let's go to this one. Let's go to the out of
1:01:57
conference. We are holding the big one for
1:02:00
last Houston, Baylor. Let's go down to Texas at the
1:02:04
school that tried to woo. Our current head coach.
1:02:08
This one obviously is going to be at Baylor and Waco.
1:02:11
Not sure if they're having fans there.
1:02:14
This is going to be a high noon. Kick.
1:02:16
Which is very nice. Gets several good.
1:02:18
Hidin games going on? Baylor is laying four and a
1:02:22
half. Yet.
1:02:25
As far as the fans, I think Texas has been weird.
1:02:28
We're like, they're almost like fully operational for day-to-day
1:02:32
stuff, but large venues have been still kind of on lockdown,
1:02:37
if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong but I think that that was
1:02:41
my recollection. So this was let's see.
1:02:48
They're not going to allow tailgating, but let's see.
1:02:52
It looks like as a few weeks ago, they were going to allow
1:02:54
about 10,000 people, and that's okay.
1:02:56
Okay. So 10,000.
1:02:57
Okay, no, tear, that's not terrible, but probably on the
1:03:01
lower end of what a lot of the stadiums that are allowing fans
1:03:05
are doing. Especially I'm not sure what
1:03:07
their capacity as I think it's probably about the same as as
1:03:11
lay, maybe a little under little under.
1:03:13
I think they're like 50. I think this is supposed to like
1:03:16
20% for them their little onions.
1:03:18
An awesome stadium. You've seen the last few years
1:03:20
with Matt rule there? Yeah, you know, they've had some
1:03:22
Patty night games. It definitely gets loud.
1:03:24
It definitely gets pumped. So, definitely an advantage for
1:03:27
them. Probably, maybe this is why this
1:03:29
lines only four and a half is there counting maybe two to
1:03:32
three points for that Home Advantage.
1:03:35
But you'll me to go first on this one.
1:03:38
If you lie, I love with UCF and I'll leave with the last one.
1:03:45
I'm gonna go Baylor and just put I was honestly in the The
1:03:48
toss-up when I was looking at this, but I'm gonna go, I'm
1:03:50
gonna go Baylor. I think the Home Advantage is
1:03:56
going to be just enough to push them over the edge there.
1:04:00
Obviously, both these teams have a little bit of a question mark
1:04:02
coming in the season, but they both are bringing back a good
1:04:05
amount of talent as well. So it should be a dogfight.
1:04:11
I think Baylor wins by a touchdown late so over on your
1:04:16
net gain is 62. So you know, look at that exact,
1:04:20
they're saying this game is going to be in the low 30s which
1:04:23
makes sense for both these teams.
1:04:24
Teams. I'm kind of torn on this one
1:04:27
because last year you know, the reason dear King.
1:04:30
Essentially left his holders on. How do you take a college
1:04:33
season? I mean, we're everybody still
1:04:36
trying to figure that out and he just he had a bunch of freshmen.
1:04:39
He's like you're not going to play and we're going to lose
1:04:41
games this year. The guy who went from a power 5
1:04:46
job where he'd have a good track record Ali wouldn't get fired,
1:04:50
goes down to a G5 job, like he's almost trying to set up
1:04:53
something. Of like, I'm looking for
1:04:57
something bigger in the state of ventrally.
1:05:02
But with all that being said, by bigger, you probably mean that
1:05:06
Texas job, huh? I think that's what he's looking
1:05:09
for. I think I truly did.
1:05:12
I think he feels like if what's his name in the next two years?
1:05:17
Definitely the next two years. I walk in I think of the
1:05:20
government. Yeah.
1:05:22
Tommy Herman. If Tom Herman can't Do it and I
1:05:25
can get Houston going. Okay they might come visit me
1:05:27
because I did have success at a P5 program before I know the
1:05:32
area, you know, being a being offensive coordinator and a
1:05:37
conference so I'm gonna I'm gonna not so fast.
1:05:40
You can go to Houston, okay? And I say that because I think I
1:05:49
think holgersson is a good enough coach to have been there.
1:05:52
I think he knows what he has were.
1:05:53
Dave, Aranda is coming in at LSU, taking over for rule.
1:05:57
I know Charlie Brewer still there and I know there's a soft
1:06:02
spot in some Virginia Tech fans heart for the Brewer family
1:06:06
other folks. There's not a lost time.
1:06:17
It will be a I think it's gonna be a fun game to watch at noon
1:06:21
on Saturday. I got a haircut at 11:00 I'm
1:06:23
hoping I can make it back his dick game kicks off.
1:06:26
So I'll take you to know I'll want off you there.
1:06:29
Okay. All right.
1:06:30
So let's go to the big one man. Saturday night, 7:30 kick ABC,
1:06:36
where we should have been playing.
1:06:37
But unfortunately 17 is 18. Miami Louisville Louisville
1:06:43
laying the short two and a half points over under sixty four and
1:06:47
a half. Against Miami.
1:06:49
All right, Brian since you picked the last one, I'm going
1:06:51
to pick this one. and, I'm gonna go, what an upset.
1:06:58
I'm Gonna Take Miami to not only cover, but I am going to take
1:07:04
them to win this one out, right? When I feel, they will win this
1:07:10
one out, right? I should say.
1:07:13
Because even though that defense isn't as good as it was last
1:07:16
year, you mentioned it a little earlier in our conversation.
1:07:20
Secondary still. Okay, to secondary slightly
1:07:22
better than last year. I think that'll be enough to
1:07:25
slow down. Down.
1:07:28
Lewisville few times and I think it is going to be a shootout
1:07:32
though. I think Saturday night buckle
1:07:34
up. Get ready?
1:07:36
I think we're going to see somewhere, like 4138.
1:07:40
It's going to be a big 12 game, it is, and it's going to be fun.
1:07:44
It's gonna be a fun game to watch.
1:07:47
It's going to be a big 12 games. You're going to see a lot of
1:07:49
offense, and if you see good defensive play, it's probably
1:07:55
going to be on forcing turnovers.
1:07:57
Hours and not a ton of 3 announce and things like that.
1:08:01
So I think fail. Give me Louisville.
1:08:09
Okay, give me Louisville laying like Central, man.
1:08:13
Big plays Central. He played some at
1:08:16
two-and-a-half. It's a pic of me anyway.
1:08:17
So give me give me Louisville here.
1:08:19
It really is. I mean, you're one point, you
1:08:22
know, Louisville could win by, you know, bring in you still
1:08:27
cover it, but at this is, it's going to be a tight game.
1:08:30
I think we both feel that they both have those home run,
1:08:32
potentials. How about this?
1:08:37
Even though I'm saying Miami to win, that's my feel.
1:08:40
We're going to look at. We're going to do the chunk play
1:08:42
reverse and say whoever's averaging better less junk plays
1:08:48
is going to win this game. Yeah, I'll go with that.
1:09:07
Speaking of Saturday night. A question.
1:09:10
Yep. What you got what?
1:09:12
You're smoking c. I so this weekend.
1:09:18
On the smoker the game plan. Barbecue chili.
1:09:26
We're going to do a chuck roast and a pork butt.
1:09:30
Oh man. We're gonna shred up about a
1:09:33
third of that that but put that into the chili, then Cube up
1:09:37
that that chuck roast throw that in there too.
1:09:39
So give a little bit of different texture between the
1:09:42
two Meats, give a little smokiness, a little beef, Little
1:09:45
Pork, and then all the, all the good things that you Near the
1:09:49
going to Chile as well. So now are you doing that
1:09:53
Saturday? Because I know you usually do
1:09:55
spreads for both days. So is that your Senators at your
1:09:57
Sunday? Spread.
1:09:58
That's my that's my entire weekend.
1:10:03
I would make those stinking much.
1:10:04
And let me tell you something, brother, this weekend is going
1:10:07
to be the perfect weather for the 66 high on Saturday.
1:10:11
The 64 Hound Sunday. Oh yes Ortiz is this was playing
1:10:16
man I talked about like two weeks ago I was like I was like,
1:10:19
honey the first the first weekend there's a day below. 75.
1:10:22
Is the hi? I'm making chili she's like, all
1:10:25
right. Look it.
1:10:26
I was like, okay, but go. So here we are.
1:10:29
We're here, and I'm bringing it to fruition and I will say that
1:10:33
I've never had this chili. I know I have had your
1:10:36
Oktoberfest chili. Yes, buddy.
1:10:42
Can you like FedEx that with like some Frozen Meet somewhere
1:10:49
like be like random creepers. Like meeting in a parking lot
1:10:52
somewhere between here in, Mechanicsville, like down the
1:10:54
city. You got it.
1:10:56
Cops are some of this shit like churches.
1:10:57
So, Brunswick, stew, ugly. All right, well, that sounds
1:11:03
also my I cannot wait. Brian, do share these pictures
1:11:07
with the folks of what you're doing because I think some
1:11:10
people will then be asking you for your recipes.
1:11:14
But I don't think anything else is broken.
1:11:17
He'd come back and beat the Celtics. 106 101.
1:11:19
What's going on with the football game on your end?
1:11:22
Headman half-man it is 2113 Browns.
1:11:27
Lot more often than we expected and Odell scored a touchdown.
1:11:31
He's on my bench in a lie. So I'm sure I'm Brian.
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