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Deshaun Watson Isn't Sh*t and the Senate Has College Sports On The Precipice of Disaster · The Regulars

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  Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers remind us all why we should never get back together
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  with our exes. A bunch of dipshits are trying to make Deshaun Watson into a
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  folk hero. And dear God, a bunch of feckless cowards actually protecting
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  ESPN's vested interests in the SEC.
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  Tanya, this whole fucking world is on fire, but let's have drinks and
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  hang out with friends and talk sports. I definitely think we should
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  do that, Cody. Why don't we start now?
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  Welcome all. It is a Friday evening. You are amongst
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  friends who have a lot to bitch and complain about today.
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  The sports world is in a really unique place there, Tawny, even though we are
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  going into the sports equinox month, October, my personal favorite
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  time of the year. Major League Baseball is already on fire. We just finished the
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  Wild Card Series. We got some really good football coming up for Week 4,
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  which are really good matchups. Really good matchups. And honestly, I'm not
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  saying this because I'm a fucking Raider fan, I am really excited for Raiders.
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  The biggest— it's the biggest game, I think, in terms of just like the day.
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  Like, that's the one everyone's gonna have their own. So excited about that. Uh,
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  Dodgers opening up tomorrow. 4 Major League Baseball games tomorrow,
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  which is gonna be an absolute blast. And I gotta tell you, the, the games
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  and the matchups and the brackets that could turn into what I think could be
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  some of the best fucking series we've ever seen, I'm really excited about. And of
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  course the Protect ESPN's SEC Deal passed
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  the Senate because fuck the Senate. We're going to be talking specifically about actual
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  senators. I'm very upset. I was taken fucking aback. It's fucking embarrassing.
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  Embarrassing shit. And we've stayed on it, but like, there's actually even more
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  stuff that I hadn't considered about the whole thing. We're going to keep digging into
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  it as long as it's on the table. We're going to keep digging into it.
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  Cody, I have a question for you. Yes. How do you How
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  do you realistically suspend an owner?
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  I'll tell you exactly how to do it. I mean, I know, like, you know,
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  you don't get to go to the games and be a part of it or
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  whatever. You don't get to go and sit in a luxury box, right, for 6
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  fucking weeks. And you know what? He's gonna learn his lesson.
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  He's really gonna learn. He's gonna learn his lesson. No more.
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  No more trailer park shenanigans. No more of this.
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  No more of this. When you guys play the Cleveland Browns, you do not get
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  to go to Ohio. No, he's not allowed to go to Ohio
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  anymore. Congratulations, you're not allowed in Ohio. I think specifically the trailer
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  parks. The fines are always so crazy. It's like, these are billionaires. Can you fine
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  them something that actually fucking matters? They never care about these fines. Something unreal,
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  man. Like when they fined Robert Kraft $1 million. Oh boy,
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  that's a write-off, bro. Oh boy, it isn't even— that's— you actually weirdly did him
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  a favor. Yeah, he's like, you know what, actually I didn't— it's better off I
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  don't have that million dollars. I'll figure it out on my taxes. Yeah, there's,
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  there's a lot to cover today. And yeah, the, the The Protect College Sports Act
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  is the fucking most embarrassing thing on the fucking planet. I am just— I'm legitimately
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  appalled by this fucking week. I'm also appalled by the senators
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  that pushed it through. I'm appalled by certain senators that made the
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  most fucking embarrassments of themselves this week that are spearheading this
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  fucking thing. And I'm also appalled, sickened that they keep trying to
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  say it's bipartisan. Fuck no, it's not bipartisan. I will say, based on the voting
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  of the fucking— of who passed it through. Oh, I want the name of every
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  Democrat. I got— I want every Democrat. I've got you. I'm gonna send him a
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  fucking letter. You're gonna be very mad. I'm already mad. I— well, yeah,
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  that's, that's very clear. Um, I also, when we
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  get into it, you know, we are going to be talking a little WNBA.
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  There was a lot of drama. Oh man, there's a lot of drama. And,
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  uh, it's always around the same stuff. And, and we have some,
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  some really interesting conversations happening around, uh,
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  what's actually bringing in eyeballs. And so I'm excited
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  to talk to you about that. I'm very excited to talk about it. I mean,
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  literally as much as we get annoyed and pissed off about the things around sports,
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  which is exceedingly easy, and not to mention the sports media world, because of course
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  we're going to get into the Tony Romo of it all later, of which I
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  didn't have much of a take on. But then all of a sudden you and
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  I started talking about it about an hour ago, and it turns out we do
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  have takes on it. We do. We do. As I was putting it in the
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  right— I honestly didn't give a shit until we started talking about it. Yeah.
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  Um, genuinely, I, I really do have like some,
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  some legitimate thoughts about what's going on there. Um, because You know
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  what, let's— we've, we've entered, we've, we've previewed enough. Why don't we
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  get into headline number 1, which is really just, um, you know, getting into
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  our Thursday night recap and then eventually previewing week 4. We'll start with
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  the Pittsburgh Steelers versus the Cleveland Browns. Um,
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  it's really funny because I told you, I think I said this before, we're doing
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  like this like survivor pool. Yeah. Um, and a
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  few of the players in the survivor pool you only get—
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  you get one shot. As soon as you're out, you're out, right? Like, as soon
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  as you pick wrong. So it was, you know, it started out with like however
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  many dozens and dozens, like 70 people, and it's down to like 20, right?
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  And we checked last night and 2 people had picked the Steelers to beat the
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  Browns, or the Browns to beat the Steelers. I don't know which one. And I'm
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  like, bold. You absolutely can never— you cannot
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  ever make the mistake of picking an AFC North game.
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  Never pick an AFC North game, no matter what you think is going to happen.
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  Don't do it. Don't do it. The, the Browns could have been 0-10.
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  I wouldn't pick them to beat the fucking Ravens. If you're in a survivor pool,
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  pro tip, don't do that. In fact, I'm kind of like against picking
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  any North team, AFC or NFC North. They're the most like very
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  unpredictable divisions right now. The AFC West is pretty tough too sometimes,
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  but like— or NFC West, sorry. The NFC West is, it is a little tricky.
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  Um, they play each other super well. All division Avoid division games when
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  you can, but specifically do not fuck around with the NFC—
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  AFC North. It's just too much. Listen,
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  the Browns won. There's a ton here that we have that we
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  do have to discuss. The big sort of like drama
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  of the game, which of course we're going to open with that because it's the
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  most fun, is that I don't know if you guys knew this, but Mike McCarthy
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  and Aaron Rodgers do not like each other. And this whole entire choice was insane.
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  Fuck. It's like watching Ben Affleck marry J.Lo for a 3rd
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  time. Like, stop it. Fucking knock it off. This doesn't work.
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  And I think they get along better than— like, Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers don't
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  like each other. They fucking hate each other. It's really fucking funny because,
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  like, Rodgers was already there. He— and the crazy part is
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  Rodgers loved Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin liked Rodgers.
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  They got along great. They did. While he was building his Minecraft city,
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  which was, by the way, delightful. I just learned why the
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  Steelers haven't been to a Super Bowl in a while. The guy's out there building
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  cities. Come on. But I'm also seeing the bright side on this. Hear me
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  out. The bright side on this is Chicago. Do you really want a football stadium
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  in your city? Hire Mike Tomlin. He will design it and it will get done.
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  It'll have an aquarium. It'll have multiple aquariums.
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  So during the first quarter, the game broadcast caught Rodgers yelling,
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  what the fuck? And to call it the fuck or
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  something like that, with Mike McCarthy appearing to fire back that his quarterback
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  was a fucking asshole. Yes. Sorry, no bleeping on here.
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  We're going to say it. Oh, what happened here? Mike McCarthy said
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  communication sometimes is not the best choice of words, but Everybody's competing on the field.
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  I think what's said on the field, the way I grew up in, in this
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  game, usually stays on the field. Not on 4K, my guy. Not these days.
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  McCarthy said in his postgame press conference when he was asked about the video of
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  him and Rodgers cursing at each other, I understand that any negative communication on my
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  part, I wish I wouldn't have used those words. Yeah,
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  he didn't even say like, I shouldn't have yelled at
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  him. No, no, didn't come close. He said I should have used different words when
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  I was yelling at that fucking asshole. That's essentially what he's saying. Which is
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  so beautiful. Um, my, my issue
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  with Mike McCarthy— I've always had an agenda against Mike McCarthy because
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  I think he's an over— I always thought he was an overrated coach. I could
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  not believe, could not believe that he got the Dallas Cowboys job.
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  I was very surprised. Like, I was shocked when he got that job. And then,
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  so he, he has now been the head coach for the Green Bay
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  Packers, the Dallas Cowboys, and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Literally the Mount
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  Rushmore Fucking teams. Are you like, add in like the
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  49ers and like you are going to ask who do you think the 4th team
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  is? Is it the 49ers? Yeah, I'm just trying to think because of the coaching
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  pedigree, right? Because of the Bill Walsh of it all and like whatever. But like,
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  what are we talking about? How is this man who is
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  like mediocre at best as an offensive designer and objectively
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  bad at game management? I don't— get me started,
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  dude. What? Like, this is not—
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  this relationship is not salvageable. No, it's not. But by the way, you think
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  that relationship isn't salvageable? Whoever the fuck TJ Watt
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  was yelling at last night over the fucking headset, likely their DC
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  who came from the Raiders. Fucking great hire there. I got to tell
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  you, that guy fucking must have gone into witness protection because
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  TJ Watt— TJ Watt do something. I've never seen TJ Watt
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  look that fucking pissed at not another team.
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  And the Watts are nice. Yes, the Watts brothers, like, they're very
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  well-liked in general. So like, you pissed off
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  a, a guy who generally just seems to go out there, just ball out,
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  and then go home completely. Um, the Browns
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  are winning games. They are 3-1, and they look good.
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  They do. Not— I mean, offensively, we're going to get into it,
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  But like, it's really not— they're not winning
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  the games in a typical way where we're like, oh, the offense is clicking on
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  it. That game was defense and kicking. Yes. I'm going to read you a couple
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  of things here. Denzel Ward's interception of Rodgers to open the second
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  quarter completely turned the game around. Completely agree. The first of
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  3 Cleveland takeaways, Ward's pick came on the drive following the Steelers' opening
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  possession march, in which they methodically worked down to a 7-0 lead.
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  And like they were feeling themselves. So we get 3 takeaways.
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  We get Carson Swesinger with 9 tackles,
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  Sam Williams sack, 4 QB pressures. Isaiah McGuire,
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  3 tackles, a sack, 4 QB pressures. Special teams can't be overlooked.
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  The, the, the punting was insane in this game.
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  What a fucking statement. But is it though? Because like,
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  you know, when you watch those games where you're like, this dude is pinning everything
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  inside like the 5. Like, it makes a massive difference when you have elite
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  punting. And, uh, Corey Bjorkes, uh, did,
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  you know, his performance on 4 punts. He was averaging
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  62.8 yards with one down on the Steelers' 1-yard
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  line. And like, we're— this is, this is the kind of football that
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  never gets played by the Browns, right? Like,
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  everybody, all, all 3 units are working pretty well. Yeah.
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  The Browns have a ton of receiving yards by rookie receivers because
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  their receiver receiving room is all rookies. So like,
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  that's great. Like, they're doing their job there. They're leading the league
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  in that. So having
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  said all that, I do— before you weigh in,
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  because we're going to do our best not to give their quarterback credit because fuck
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  Deshaun Watson. I can't stress this enough. I have a graphic for
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  you. So could you pull up the Browns graphic for me there.
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  Here we go, Cody. Look at that. Look at that. Beautiful. Browns are the only
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  team in NFL history to have fewer touchdowns, fewer made
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  field goals, fewer rushing yards, fewer net passing yards, more turnovers,
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  more penalties than their opponents through 4 games of a season and
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  still have a winning record. Look at that. Is this the Todd
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  Monken effect? This is the Todd Monken being saddled
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  with Deshaun Watson effect. I can tell you that fucking much. By the way,
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  before— so can I get into this now real quick? So here's
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  the thing. Today, actually not today, yesterday really nauseated me
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  because of course they were talking about at the end of the game and,
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  you know, Kurt Herbstreit and Al Michaels. We're gonna get into that media corner,
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  so maybe I'll hold off on getting into this completely. But just the
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  people that are trying to make him into some sort of folk hero, anyone that's
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  doing that, fuck you. Yeah, we've got a lot on that media corner because we're
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  gonna be talking about exactly what Amazon Prime did. Yeah, uh,
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  oh, you mean the, the fucking pregame interview as well with,
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  uh, Taylor Rooks? Oh boy. Oh boy, that was some
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  fucking shit. It's gross, in fact. So that's, that's going to be its own conversation
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  around how the media has handled this. But also it should be said
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  in the football portion, he's not playing great. He's playing fine, playing much better than
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  we've seen since he's been in Cleveland. No question. But he's not playing amazing.
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  This last week was— he, he barely completed 50% of his
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  passes. Let's not forget that they won that game with him barely completing 50%
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  of his passes. Watching people say he's playing like a top 10 QB, I'm like,
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  no, he fucking isn't. No. And, and by the way,
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  watch it. Like, please watch the games. I want you to watch how he's throwing.
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  I want you to watch his form. I want you to watch his decision-making.
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  That does not mean that he is trash. He's not the trash quarterback
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  that we have seen in the— in some of his showings playing for Cleveland.
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  Now he's playing serviceably. Yes. And getting the job done
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  so they can win there. Let's be honest about that. This is
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  not Deshaun Watson from 2020. When he was like,
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  looked like a future superstar. Yes.
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  So like, fuck, fucking A, whatever. The Browns,
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  happy for Todd Monken, happy for some of the like younger players on the team.
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  And you know, it's like, it's a massive,
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  it's a massive win for their defense that got rid of Myles Garrett and is
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  still performing completely. So great football. Yay, love it. That's not
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  what they focused on on the broadcast. And that bothers me. Bothers the shit out
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  of me. The only, the only positive I'm taking from this this, and I'm— and
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  I'm— trust me, I'm doing some serious fucking gymnastics to get here. I am happy
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  for Cleveland fans right now who have ate nothing but shit
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  for a long time until I was— the chanting started,
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  and then I was like, you know what, you guys fucking deserve exactly what you
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  get. And by the way, I was supposed to make content today about this and
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  I forgot, but there's a video coming from me with a big old fucking
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  I told you so about that. Big fucking— unreal, right?
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  Because when he told everybody that, uh,
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  they, you know, yelled at the fans for booing him, he was like,
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  I know this isn't even about my play, blah blah blah. No shit. And I
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  was like, no, it is. It's also about your play. It absolutely is.
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  Because if you were balling out, they would not
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  boo you. Well, you're fucking right. It turns out you were dead right. Every single
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  Browns fan, by the way, that like, like could— there were
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  some that were like, yeah, no, I hate him, whatever. But there was a bunch
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  who were like, no, We don't— we would never— we would never cheer
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  for him. Yes, because— because Ohio, the bastion of
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  fucking wokeness. It's not even Ohio. I can't— I can't think of an
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  NFL team, an NFL fan base that wouldn't cheer for their quarterback
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  regardless of what they did. You're probably right there. I can't think of one.
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  I don't like— I don't— I don't think this is a Browns issue. No,
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  you're right. This is a like— we've been experiencing it
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  for a week now, Tanya, what it looks like, how few people
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  give a fuck about sexual assault. Yeah. Let's go back to— let's go back to
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  what was it? 2017, 2018 when Ray Rice happened.
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  If he actually— the video never came out and he served those 2 games,
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  boy, fucking Rice chants would have been all throughout fucking Baltimore. No question
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  about it. Ben Roethlisberger, they, they didn't want to get rid of fucking
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  Justin Tucker in Baltimore. Like, they wait till the
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  last fucking minute to do it. It's always, you know, and I mean, if— look
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  no further than the multiple campus sexual assault stories
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  in the news right now. So it's unbelievable. No one cares. Yeah, no one,
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  no one really gives a shit. Stop telling me that you have some sort of
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  moral high ground as fan base. Are some fans much better?
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  Absolutely. Are the people in our chat very likely the kind
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  of people who would always hate Deshaun Watson? No question. Absolutely. But we're talking macro
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  here, right? You know, can I ask you a question though? Like,
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  did we go backwards as a society when it comes to the actual world
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  of rape culture, or are we just actually— we didn't change
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  and it's just gotten louder again? We just pretended we got better.
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  Yeah, that, that. Okay, that's what I thought. That's what I was worried about.
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  I thought maybe we got better for a minute there and then the fucking worst
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  of us. Just want to know something weird. When I was looking into the numbers
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  while I made content about this all week, it did show that like the
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  peak of reporting matching the
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  like a higher number of arrests and convictions was in the early '90s.
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  Really? And I was like, I never would have guessed that. Was that like— why
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  is that? I don't know. I feel like somehow I could relate
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  it to like AIDS panic Because everything
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  comes back to something else that's worse. But I don't know how to.
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  But it was a very weird time. Very, very weird time. But let's, let's get
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  off of the shit show that was Thursday Night Football about 2 fucking teams that
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  won't be anywhere near the playoffs and no one gives a shit about with 2
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  quarterbacks that, honest to God, I would give anything for them to both just
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  fucking go away. Week 4, Tanya.
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  Wait, are you talking about Rams-Eagles? No, I was talking about
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  the game on Thursday night. I thought you were still previewing. I was transitioning away
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  from the shitty game. Stafford, nothing. Yeah.
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  No, no, neither of them. I love those 2. We're good. I'm fine.
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  We're, we're good with Matthew Stafford and Jalen Hurts, especially. I got lost in the
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  transition. I thought it was a good transition. I think it probably was.
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  I think I was thinking ahead already. Oh, okay. Yeah. So my brain
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  was saying, let's get away from these 2 feckless fucks. Let's get to 2 quarterbacks
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  we actually respect. So you were bringing it home. I'm so fucking good
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  at this. You got it, dude. All right. Rams and Eagles.
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  This is a really fascinating game because both of these
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  teams looked horrific last week. Really fucking Um, the Rams looked
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  a little bit better for a part of the game and just fell apart.
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  The Eagles— well, the Eagles kind of did too. The Eagles had a little moment
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  there and, and they fell apart as well. Uh, the Rams blew a 16-0 halftime
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  lead against Denver and somehow lost 30-26. Matthew Stafford threw for 390
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  yards and 2 touchdowns but also had 2 picks. Uh, the Eagles meanwhile got embarrassed
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  by Chicago, 27-7. Um, Philly managed only 248 yards
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  total, had 3 turnovers, and gained just 62 yards in the second half. So like
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  They sort of both had second halves that were like pretty embarrassing. Yeah.
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  So we're talking about a, you know, the Rams with this really productive offense
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  but a terrible second half collapse and the Eagles, this contender
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  who just seemed to be coming off of repeated dysfunctional performances.
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  And unless Jalen Hurts can kind of drag them out of it, they're looking really
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  rough. Yeah. Couple of notes. Puka is
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  slated to return. Mm-hmm. I heard that Aaron Donald
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  might be out. He is officially out. Okay. So Puka back,
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  Donald out. Donald out.
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  And Philly has several players that are dealing
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  with injuries. DeVonta Smith, Goedert, Zach Bond.
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  Yeah. Ferguson also out, by the way. Which one of these
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  Week 3 aberrations, if you had to pick these Week 3 games that just
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  looked awful, do you think was the bigger aberration? Do you think was
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  like less likely to be a snapshot of what this team is? I firmly believe
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  it's the Rams. I'm a little worried about the Eagles right now. I was feeling
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  so much better about the Eagles early in the season. And after that
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  game, that comeback win that they had over there in Tennessee, even though Tennessee is
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  a dogshit team this year and got a long way to go— NFL game,
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  NFL wins are important— but that comeback win, I thought, hey,
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  Jalen Hurts still got them, we're good. And then I saw last week,
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  and I got to say, that team seems like they're in disarray. And it's not
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  just the offense. The offense as a whole looks bad. No, it's the defense too.
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  But the defense looks like shit too. The defense has— it's the worst it's been
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  in— I've never seen it this bad. Um, and if anything,
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  Jalen Hurts sort of feel— it feels like he's like doing everything
• 19:29
  he can, but like with that O-line and if Saquon's not—
• 19:32
  Saquon has been so streaky for the last few seasons. So I agree
• 19:37
  with you. And you and I talked last week after
• 19:41
  the Rams loss about this tendency for Matthew
• 19:45
  Stafford and for Sean McVay to let Matthew Stafford just start chucking it. Yeah,
• 19:49
  just start fucking— because that pick 6 was dogshit and it's classic Matthew Stafford.
• 19:52
  This is something that he has done. Sean McVay is
• 19:56
  prone to letting his quarterbacks do that. He did it with Jared Goff. He's done
• 20:00
  it with Matthew Stafford. I think if we're talking about
• 20:04
  which team has the better coaching to try to bounce back from this
• 20:07
  situation, Rams, it's the Rams. And they're
• 20:11
  getting their objectively best wide receiver
• 20:15
  back. Yes. And I think that's going to bring a lot to the table just
• 20:17
  in general, whether or not he gets a ton of touches, which he's going to
• 20:21
  get a ton of touches. Yeah. But like, I think it's just going to open
• 20:23
  up the field so much for Davante Adams, who's already even, even without without Puka
• 20:27
  was having monster games. His last game, last 2 games for Davante, he was a
• 20:30
  fucking monster. Well, I think it might end up, it might end up lowering his
• 20:33
  numbers a little bit but giving him more opportunities to make like clutch plays.
• 20:36
  Yeah, right. So like he probably won't have the chunk yardage, probably not,
• 20:40
  but, but at the moments, but probably bigger impact.
• 20:43
  Exactly. Um, and as far as being
• 20:47
  without Aaron Donald against that Philly offensive line,
• 20:50
  probably for the fucking best if you're gonna be it without AD to do it
• 20:54
  against this fucking line. Yeah. Um, but I am interested
• 20:57
  to see if, if Jalen Hurts, without having
• 21:01
  that inside pressure from, you know, from where— from
• 21:04
  Aaron Donald missing— if he can do something. Um,
• 21:08
  they have like DeVonta Smith. If he's not healthy,
• 21:11
  like, I'm starting to wonder who the fuck he's throwing it to. I'm having that
• 21:14
  question right now. He might have to— he might have to kick into high gear
• 21:18
  with his legs. I gotta be honest, he's been He has been almost
• 21:22
  recklessly running like in the last game, like he's been taking shots,
• 21:26
  he's been taking hits, he's been— he's not been sliding. He's not like— Jalen
• 21:30
  Hurts is putting his body on the line. So we'll see.
• 21:34
  I agree with you, though, that like right now, if you have to ask me
• 21:37
  who I have more faith in in this game, it's the Rams. Yeah.
• 21:41
  And it's purely based on like just
• 21:45
  the— the— it's not the quarterbacks. It's not even necessarily the weapons.
• 21:49
  It's the coaching and the few little spots where they do have a better situation
• 21:51
  on the roster. Completely agree with you. Now that—
• 21:54
  it's just, listen, I have faith in the Rams. They're gonna get it right.
• 21:57
  And also, they've kind of— for the last couple years, they've been notoriously like a
• 22:00
  second half team anyways. So I'm— that's why I'm not too much sweating like
• 22:04
  the fact that Myles Garrett's out for another 4 weeks. I'm not sweating Aaron Donald
• 22:08
  being out. Hell, Aaron Donald being here is a fucking bonus anyways. We'll say though,
• 22:11
  the Seahawks and the Niners, sort of interesting. Like, if they stay on track
• 22:15
  to be great, it's making the Rams' life difficult. It definitely is. No, but I
• 22:19
  do think— I mean, meltdown against the Commanders last week, they really did. Listen,
• 22:23
  the NFL's been fucking drunk so in week 1. We would like to be as
• 22:26
  well. Oh, we're gonna be— oh, we're gonna be drunk by the end of this
• 22:29
  show, no question about it, especially as this show continues. But Cody, I, I'm,
• 22:32
  I'm introducing this. I'm introducing this for you. Um, there are 2 3-0
• 22:36
  teams playing each other this week, division rivals. Cody, baby, now I,
• 22:40
  I know that you couldn't possibly have
• 22:44
  believed that entering week 4 you'd be going up
• 22:48
  against the 3-0 Kansas City Chiefs
• 22:52
  with a 3-0 Las Vegas Raiders. I hate that you don't believe in us.
• 22:55
  I believed in us the whole time. You absolutely did not. I absolutely did not.
• 22:58
  Absolutely. I am loving this. It's fucking unbelievable.
• 23:02
  The fucking Raiders are the shit right now. And here's the thing, and I'm not
• 23:05
  saying this as a Raider fan only, trust me, trust me, I'm aware that my
• 23:09
  fandom is coming in here a little bit, but as it should. I mean,
• 23:11
  I think the whole reason that we like to talk about sports is because we
• 23:15
  have fandom within us. I— we're not— I don't like
• 23:19
  the idea of those, the, the nihilistic, like, I've had the fandom beaten out of
• 23:23
  me, I'm just fully unbiased. Fuck off. Why are you talking about sports then?
• 23:26
  We love sports, and some of those teams are the reason we love them.
• 23:29
  Yeah, I'm, I'm really happy about this team where they're at. I, I— and again,
• 23:33
  I, I jokingly on my other show picked them to win this weekend.
• 23:37
  I don't think they're gonna win. I hope they win. It is, it is in
• 23:40
  Las Vegas though, right? No, it's in Kansas City.
• 23:43
  Leave. I thought it was. Is it in Vegas? This might be wrong. No,
• 23:47
  I might be wrong. I— it might be in Vegas. If it's in Vegas,
• 23:49
  please correct me. I, for some reason, I thought it was in Kansas City.
• 23:51
  That changes anything, but if it's in Kansas City, it makes me less likely to
• 23:55
  feel like you're going to win the game versus— I've been so like
• 23:59
  enjoying this team. I've been enjoying Kirk Cousins. I'm enjoying the camaraderie around
• 24:03
  this team. It's just a different feel around this team right now. And it's in
• 24:06
  Vegas. It's been— it's in Vegas, so we got a legit shot. I— listen,
• 24:09
  I just want a good competitive football game, which I think the Raiders are going
• 24:12
  to give me because that's what they've shown for the last 3 weeks. That defense
• 24:15
  has been fantastic. To think that they won't at least be competitive and put
• 24:19
  up some sort of fight. It's a different time. I, I referred to them today,
• 24:21
  I'm like, this ain't your dad's Raiders. In fact, this is your granddad's Raiders.
• 24:25
  The last time they were fucking good. This isn't your— this isn't your 2019
• 24:29
  Chiefs either. Like, it's, it's a different iteration of it. They're the Chiefs.
• 24:32
  They are, they are 3-0. Let's not fuck around.
• 24:36
  They're really good. But still not exactly
• 24:39
  the same exact type of team that we were seeing before. No,
• 24:42
  it's, it's something. The, the turnaround has been outstanding, and I'm just,
• 24:46
  I'm really fired up to see this game. I'm like, I'm going to be watching
• 24:49
  this game with outrageous bated breath and just going to enjoy
• 24:52
  a good game. It's, it's weird going to week 4 watching the Raiders without
• 24:57
  the season already being fucking over. Here's what I'll tell you about this game that
• 25:01
  I'm intrigued by is I think they're probably going to be they're gonna
• 25:05
  probably go down at some point in the game, probably they're going to be
• 25:09
  losing, probably. How do they respond? Because last week they scored 19
• 25:13
  on Antwerp. Um, and to, to be
• 25:17
  quite honest, you know, that's— even if they don't win
• 25:21
  but they make a real, a real comeback, Kirk Cousins is great
• 25:25
  at this. He's a, he's a veteran, he's extremely experienced. He doesn't
• 25:28
  get that, like, the level of rattled that, like, maybe a younger quarterback might.
• 25:32
  This is why I love that Fernando Mendoza has not been with this because there's
• 25:35
  no 3-0 with Fernando Mendoza. No question. Um,
• 25:39
  but here's the question, Cody, and I'll answer it after you.
• 25:43
  Can the Raiders actually be considered
• 25:47
  an AFC contender, a real AFC contender, if they go up
• 25:51
  4-0 by beating the Chiefs? I will answer this,
• 25:54
  and you may disagree with me. I think they're an
• 25:58
  AFC contender now. And when I say contender now, I'm not saying
• 26:01
  that— I'm not suggesting they're going to win the Super Bowl. I'm not. I think
• 26:05
  AFC— so let's define it. Please defend that as like genuinely
• 26:10
  has a chance to make the championship game.
• 26:13
  Championship game is— I mean, I guess my mind just can't get there yet,
• 26:17
  but I think they're a contender to be a potential playoff team this game.
• 26:19
  If they win this game, I'm going, buddy, on Monday,
• 26:23
  I don't know how I will react. I might be— I might be rocking fucking
• 26:27
  spikes on my shoulders. I might wear an eye patch. I might be
• 26:31
  screaming, we're going to the fucking chip. Like, I don't know what to say other
• 26:34
  than if they beat the Chiefs, yeah, and go forward— the fucking
• 26:38
  Raiders go 4-0— then yes,
• 26:42
  I will firmly believe this team can be a legitimate
• 26:46
  AFC champion contender. Now, I still don't
• 26:50
  see this universe happening right now, but if this happens on
• 26:53
  Sunday I'm gonna be loud. I see a universe where
• 26:57
  it happens because I don't doubt T. Like,
• 27:00
  it's like I didn't think the, the Raiders were going to be to this point
• 27:04
  after one win, after two, and then I get to the third, I'm like,
• 27:07
  all right, I mean, he's a legit trend showing me real ability
• 27:10
  here. And Brock Bowers being back,
• 27:14
  though, as good as he was, like, uh,
• 27:17
  you know, it in a first game back He was
• 27:21
  going to be the best offensive weapon on the field. No question. Even more
• 27:26
  honestly, I think, than Kenneth Walker. Like, Brock Bowers is a fucking
• 27:30
  monster. Like, he's the closest thing I've seen
• 27:34
  to Gronk. Like, in terms of just like unstoppable amounts
• 27:38
  of production when he's healthy. The amount of yak yardage he
• 27:42
  gets, like, and how he fights for it. That's what— that's Gronk. It is.
• 27:45
  It's just he gets a ball, someone tries to tackle him. And he just fucking
• 27:49
  grabs him and says, fuck you, and just pushes the defender an extra
• 27:53
  4 yards. He does it on almost every fucking play and it is unbelievable
• 27:56
  how he does it. So I'm trying to figure— so you guys haven't beat
• 28:00
  the Chiefs. The Raiders haven't beat the Chiefs in a meaningful regular season game
• 28:04
  because last year was like— it was like the end of the season and they
• 28:08
  just like were cooked. Since it
• 28:12
  was one time in 2023 and before that, the last time was one
• 28:16
  time in 2020. Well, the 2023 game was a bit— was a big problem.
• 28:19
  Because I believe that was on Christmas Day. And then the Chiefs took it personally
• 28:22
  and never lost again and won the Super Bowl. Yeah, it's been 3 wins in
• 28:25
  10 years. I'm aware. So, yeah, like, I mean, that's a fucking—
• 28:29
  that's a, that's a statement. It is. For, for my part, if they beat
• 28:33
  the Chiefs, I don't care that it's in Las Vegas. If they beat the Chiefs
• 28:38
  to go 4-0 and to be at the top of the division,
• 28:41
  that's a contender. I agree. No, I agree. And this is something that now
• 28:45
  we're a quarter away through the season, about And like, yeah, that's interesting
• 28:49
  to me. Me too. Um, so yeah, and I'm
• 28:53
  rooting for— I'm— you know what I'm rooting for? You know what I'm rooting for?
• 28:55
  Raiders-Ravens AFC Championship Game.
• 28:59
  Revenge on my mind. Wherever it is, you and I
• 29:03
  fly, we're there.
• 29:06
  We're going, we're going to that game. No question, we're going to that fucking game.
• 29:09
  Also, by the way, it's in the chat right now, uh, High Off the Glass,
• 29:12
  which is of course O the Great, says Legion of Doom type shit.
• 29:15
  Get it, Deck? I'm fucking with you. Oh, completely, dude. I mean
• 29:20
  this from my— I'm not— I can't believe this is real right now. Like,
• 29:23
  I've been— I've waited so long to see a Raider team
• 29:27
  even compete, let alone win. That's not like depressing. Yeah. No,
• 29:31
  it's just I've watched every Raider game for like the last 30
• 29:34
  years and rarely, rarely have been happy.
• 29:38
  I wasn't even that concerned with whether or not they won against the Saints
• 29:41
  last week. I was just thrilled that it was a fucking competitive
• 29:45
  game all the way to the end, because once the Chiefs got up 2 scores,
• 29:48
  I'm like, uh, fucking same old Raiders. Yeah, but then they fucking immediately
• 29:52
  showed they're not the same old Raiders. There's fucking fight in these guys.
• 29:55
  Clint Kubiak, I, I— so far, holy shit,
• 29:59
  this guy, what he's accomplished in such a short amount of time
• 30:03
  is goddamn astonishing. Yeah, I don't know what's going on in my world. Clint Kubiak's
• 30:07
  got the Raiders fucking playing like the Raiders of old. Fucking Fucking Bob Chesney's
• 30:11
  got UCLA Bruins playing like they're fucking legitimate Big Ten and fucking
• 30:15
  playoff contenders. This is a fucking insane world for me
• 30:18
  all of a sudden. I think, I think, uh, all this means
• 30:22
  is that you're gonna be absolutely devastated multiple times
• 30:27
  in January. I'm gonna be devastated multiple fucking times in January.
• 30:31
  But for now, that's a long way away. No, it's October,
• 30:35
  and October's the shit. Yeah, it's gonna be great, man. I'm loving it.
• 30:39
  And I'm, I'm more excited for this game. I'm more excited for this Raiders game.
• 30:42
  I don't remember the last time I was this excited for a Raiders game.
• 30:44
  That, that's just it. I think that when they made the playoffs and they lost
• 30:48
  to the Bengals in 2020, we're gonna be like in a
• 30:52
  car on the way to an event at the end of that game. We're showing
• 30:55
  the event fucking late is what we're gonna be like, because it's— we're showing up
• 30:58
  late to the event. Yeah, we're showing— it's— if the Raiders are in this game,
• 31:02
  we're gonna be sitting right there in that fucking living room until the fucking last
• 31:05
  down is out, and we're gonna be late to the event. I'm gonna be in
• 31:07
  a gown. I'm gonna be in a suit. Fucking just sitting there, the classiest
• 31:11
  Raider fan in America. Oh Jesus Christ. Well, listen, I'm very
• 31:15
  excited. It's a game I'm legitimately excited for. And I will admit, even though this
• 31:19
  next game that we're about to talk about is intriguing, I'm honestly not excited
• 31:23
  about it. I'm not, because there's one team I think is disappointing and the other
• 31:27
  team is just beaten to fuck. I don't care to necessarily watch the game.
• 31:31
  I do think that it is going to be interesting to see,
• 31:34
  an interesting litmus test for the Broncos because
• 31:38
  it's Broncos at 49ers. Um, the 49ers have yet
• 31:44
  again a litany of injuries because of the curse.
• 31:47
  Their quarterback though is playing really, really well.
• 31:50
  The opposite effect is happening in, in Denver where I
• 31:54
  think their quarterback is kind of mid, but the rest of the team always comes
• 31:58
  through. And to be fair to Bo Nix, he does not get stressed
• 32:02
  out at the end of games. He figures shit out. This feels like a trap
• 32:05
  game for the 49ers. They're, they're weakened by injuries and the Broncos
• 32:09
  don't give a fuck. And Mike Evans is claiming he's playing in this game,
• 32:13
  so whatever. I think that this might be another situation
• 32:16
  where we have the Broncos getting to like 13 wins this season,
• 32:21
  but like with, like with the least impressive sort of
• 32:24
  wins of all time. And this feels like it's just shaping up to be one
• 32:28
  of them. It seems like you agree. Yes, I do agree. And it is weird
• 32:31
  that I'm actually surprised at how the Broncos record now because they've not played
• 32:35
  well. They didn't last year and they made the AFC Championship Game.
• 32:38
  I know every game last year. I know it's fucking weird. This is just the
• 32:42
  same shit again. All right, so we won't spend too much time on that.
• 32:45
  I am really intrigued about Jaguars at Bengals because
• 32:49
  I don't think either of these teams scare
• 32:53
  anyone right now. They technically should
• 32:58
  be contenders. Bengals, Joe Burrow putting
• 33:02
  up lots of points. Trevor Lawrence has,
• 33:07
  you know, had a great game against the Patriots, which, by the
• 33:11
  way, has a pretty good defense. Patriots are like a top 10 DVOA defense
• 33:14
  right now. So it's not nothing that he, that he shredded them up. Did he
• 33:18
  forget what, how much time was left in the game and take a knee
• 33:22
  at the fucking 1 and piss off a bunch of of bettors and fantasy players?
• 33:26
  Sure. I don't think that that was point shaving. He's an idiot.
• 33:30
  Yeah. Have you heard Trevor Lawrence speak? He's a— sadly, yes.
• 33:33
  Dingbat. He is absolutely a dingbat. Um, Cincinnati,
• 33:37
  you know, it's yet again Joe Burrow. Does he have to play hero ball
• 33:41
  to prevent their issues on defense? Um,
• 33:45
  they've had high-scoring games. He's scoring points.
• 33:48
  He's— he made massive mistake at the end game
• 33:52
  against the Steelers. I, I don't think either of these teams are that good.
• 33:55
  I don't either, but I do think that the Jaguars will win their division because
• 33:59
  somebody has to win it. And I do think the Jaguars are better than
• 34:03
  we give them credit for because I do think Liam Cohen's done a really good
• 34:05
  job over there. But they're always going to be hampered by that first name you
• 34:09
  mentioned in Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, like, period. I don't know. I like—
• 34:12
  Trevor's either great or kind of bad. And it like— I
• 34:16
  actually got the Jaguars in this game. I think so too. Yeah,
• 34:20
  but like, I don't think— I guess what I'm saying is like
• 34:23
  both these teams were sort of favorites to at least be playoff contenders.
• 34:27
  Yeah. And they probably still are, I guess. But I guess— but that's because of
• 34:31
  the divisions they're in. So not impressed with either one of these teams right now.
• 34:34
  I will say I give a lot more credit to Joe Burrow and what
• 34:38
  he continues to be saddled with in terms of coaching and everything else.
• 34:42
  I— Liam Cohen seemed really annoyed that he had to try to like defend Trevor
• 34:47
  Lawrence's stupidity in the postgame press conference. He was like, yeah, I don't know,
• 34:50
  that one was on me. I told him, and he like tried, and I was
• 34:54
  like, way to fall on the sword. You're doing a good job, Liam. You,
• 34:57
  you have an idiot for a quarterback. What are you gonna do? Um, Monday Night
• 35:01
  Football, secretly fucking sick.
• 35:05
  Actually, Falcons— if you told me in week 1 that this was going to be
• 35:08
  a great game, I would not have believed you. Me neither. I thought this would
• 35:11
  have been horseshit. But both of these teams have really shown,
• 35:15
  shown some shit. And it's crazy because like neither one of them has a winning
• 35:17
  record or anything like, you know, but like the
• 35:20
  way the Falcons looked with Michael Penix, the way that they looked like a completely
• 35:24
  different team, the way the Saints have basically
• 35:28
  almost won every game they've played in. They obviously only have one win on the
• 35:31
  season, but like really genuinely impressive performances. They had
• 35:35
  a meltdown last week. Okay, shit happens. Tyler Schuck is throwing for like fucking
• 35:39
  400 yards a game. Doesn't get— I'm interested
• 35:42
  in this game. These are the only, like, the only teams so far
• 35:46
  that seem like they could like maybe find a way to be like settled in
• 35:50
  in their division. The Panthers are stressing me out. I love Bryce Young, but like
• 35:53
  they've looked awful. I'm really intrigued.
• 35:57
  And given how well Penix has played, this is another
• 36:01
  opportunity to see if like he's the quarterback of the future and if he's going
• 36:04
  to be the quarterback of the future. You got to go in and put a
• 36:06
  good performance against your division rival, the Saints. Completely agree. And I really
• 36:09
  loved how Penix looked last week. That team looked fucking good and he got so
• 36:13
  fun and he got off to a rocky start and he really fucking put it
• 36:16
  together. It was the most fun I've had watching a Falcons team since like 2017
• 36:21
  when like the Matt Ryan years. Pretty good shit. So it was awesome.
• 36:25
  There are some injuries that are going to affect that though, and that's bumming
• 36:28
  me out because I think Achane's out. He is, which sucks.
• 36:31
  But that's more— was the 500-yard
• 36:35
  Tyler Shuck game incoming? Hey, maybe. Uh, Tyler Shuck has been so—
• 36:39
  I've been enjoying it. I've been enjoying it. And he, you know, he's, he's a
• 36:42
  young quarterback, but like, he's fucking 38. Yeah, well, he played like 11
• 36:47
  years. Yeah, it's fucking Van Wilder over here.
• 36:51
  A couple side plots I want to keep an eye on. Okay,
• 36:54
  first one, and I think that this is, you know, Uh, this is leaning in
• 36:58
  a little bit to the establishment media constant comparisons between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen,
• 37:01
  which is that both these quarterbacks, um,
• 37:05
  are coming off of wins. 2 completely different vibes and wins, but like, you know,
• 37:09
  also highly discussed. The Bills are playing the Patriots,
• 37:12
  who will be without Christian Barmore and Christian Gonzalez,
• 37:16
  objectively their 2 best defensive players. Um, the Titans have looked
• 37:20
  rough through 3 games. They're playing the Ravens. So both
• 37:24
  the Ravens and the Bills are these AFC favorites who
• 37:28
  are going in and playing these games where both teams and QBs and rookie head
• 37:32
  coaches get to prove that they can get the job done against inferior
• 37:37
  opposition, right? Like, we've got these 2 rookie head coaches on
• 37:41
  both these teams. We've got these 2 star quarterbacks. We have them both
• 37:45
  set up to— with gimme games.
• 37:48
  So it seems like it should be boring, but to me it's not. These are,
• 37:51
  these are genuinely the types of games you have to dominate
• 37:55
  to convince me that this is like, that you're, you're for real this season.
• 37:59
  And I think they both have a lot on the line to do that.
• 38:01
  Yeah, sure, the Bills have the extra win, but that win over the Chargers might
• 38:06
  as well have been a loss. It was so fucking bad. And, and I know
• 38:08
  that that's not how it works. I know that's not how it works. But in
• 38:10
  terms of like how much I believe in their capabilities on all sides
• 38:14
  of the ball, like, let's be real. Um, who do you think has
• 38:18
  more pressure to win their game? Oh,
• 38:23
  one's a division game, one's not, but one team's winless.
• 38:28
  Patriots have a win. They were just in the Super Bowl.
• 38:31
  I don't fucking know. I got— I'm gonna say— I'm— I gotta
• 38:35
  say, it's got to be the Patriots, right? I mean, they're— they were in the
• 38:38
  Super Bowl, and they are— I gotta say, right now, as of right
• 38:42
  now, They're in the top 3 worst teams in the NFL based
• 38:46
  on how they played so far. The bottom 3 best, top 3 worst, however you
• 38:49
  want to say it. I— whatever, whatever way you want to say it, they are
• 38:52
  the best of the worst right now. They look so fucking bad.
• 38:55
  Only the best of the worst because we can't really comprehend that the Super
• 39:00
  Bowl team from the year before— I am the worst of the worst. I am
• 39:02
  fucking like blown away with how shitty they look.
• 39:05
  It's the offense though, and that's the interesting part is like kicking's been fine.
• 39:08
  Defense has been fine. It's— and I think that's why you're probably like
• 39:12
  unwilling to say that they're the worst of the worst, because like realistically,
• 39:16
  defense is— it's not gonna be good this week. They're missing their 2 fucking best
• 39:19
  players, both named Christian, by the way. Not sure what that's about.
• 39:23
  Just both our Christians gone. I'm just telling you, like, God has
• 39:26
  left us. God has left the New England
• 39:30
  Patriots, if he was ever there to begin with. I doubt he was ever there.
• 39:32
  But I will tell you this, uh, The reason why I am— I'm like
• 39:36
  officially gonna have like no faith in this team very, very soon. Like 0.0
• 39:40
  type of faith. Um, the way Mike Vrabel had that
• 39:44
  press conference, I have never fucking seen Mike Vrabel like that.
• 39:47
  Yeah, he— even in the worst of times in Tennessee,
• 39:50
  I'm like, what the fuck was that? So do you think
• 39:54
  that like there's extra pressure on Josh Allen to win this fucking game?
• 39:58
  Because it feels like there is for me. Dude, Josh Allen, like there'd be no
• 40:01
  excuse. I'm just assuming Josh Allen is gonna wreck shop. And the reason
• 40:04
  why I think that is because he played like shit last week. Yeah, Josh Allen
• 40:08
  had maybe one of his worst games he's ever fucking played. So now he's gonna
• 40:11
  do the bounce back and just fucking throw for 6 touchdowns. Without Christian Gonzalez,
• 40:15
  they're fucked. Maybe you get through without Christian Barkley, but not both of them.
• 40:19
  Like, we— again, Josh Allen played maybe the worst game of his career
• 40:22
  last week. I would like to see— I would like to see the Ravens
• 40:26
  go, go bell to bell and just dominate
• 40:31
  that. So would I. I would really like to see them put together— it doesn't
• 40:33
  matter, it's the Titans— put together a performance on all sides of the ball.
• 40:37
  Just beat the shit out of them. Play really well and consistent
• 40:41
  on offense across the board. Don't make it a fucking situation. I would like to
• 40:45
  see that from that team. Settle some of my nerves. Yeah.
• 40:49
  Um, Brian Flores is a fucking genius.
• 40:53
  Really? Not enough people are talking about it, and we need to talk about
• 40:56
  what the fuck Brian Flores is doing and has been doing. I will tell you,
• 40:59
  I, I Can I push back just a tick? People are really starting to talk
• 41:03
  about it. Who's people? Even people in media, even in like big media.
• 41:07
  Where'd you see it? I saw it on— God, where did I see it?
• 41:09
  I thought I saw it on like NFL Live or something. Like, they were— people
• 41:12
  are starting to talk about— we were talking about on our show, we were talking—
• 41:14
  I've seen other people talking about other shows. I want it like— I want him—
• 41:17
  it's fucking about like Josh McDaniels and Spags, and I want him talked
• 41:21
  about. I have him above them all. What he's fucking doing right now is
• 41:25
  outrageous right now. He is, he is the Tony
• 41:29
  Dungy of this like era. What he is doing is
• 41:33
  nuts. Their DVOA on defense is so
• 41:37
  far ahead of number 2. The Vikings are the best defense in the NFL and
• 41:42
  they are, they are winning those games for
• 41:46
  the Minnesota— the Minnesota Vikings are undefeated through 3 games because
• 41:49
  of that defense. Brian Flores's His concepts, what he
• 41:53
  is doing, how he is manipulating every
• 41:57
  single game is so far ahead of what anybody else is doing
• 42:01
  at the defensive coordinator position. There is— it's just
• 42:05
  another thing that drives me nuts that he hasn't gotten an opportunity
• 42:09
  again because of the sort of blackballing out of the head coaching spot.
• 42:13
  But like, when I tell you watching Vikings games feels
• 42:17
  like It feels like I'm learning that
• 42:23
  you can do things I didn't realize you could do on defense. That, like,
• 42:25
  that's what it feels like when you really understand conceptually what they're
• 42:29
  doing week to week, matchup to matchup. It's,
• 42:32
  oh, it's so cool. And I, I know
• 42:36
  there are coordinators that do these matchup sort of scheme changes. Yeah, but like not
• 42:41
  as many as you'd think. You'd— not as many as you'd think do that.
• 42:44
  It is very Belichickian. And of course, like, that's where
• 42:47
  he comes from. But we haven't seen a lot of those coaches do that.
• 42:51
  I want to bring up a, I want to bring up a graphic for you.
• 42:54
  So let's bring up the Flores graphic, Mocha. The Minnesota Vikings
• 42:58
  are the first team in 40 years to go 3-0 while having less
• 43:02
  than 4.3 yards per play over that span.
• 43:06
  So you can see them, you know, the Vikings are right there at
• 43:10
  the top. Got like the 1986 Rams, the 1978
• 43:15
  Rams, the Bears from the '70s. Like, we— this is something that does
• 43:19
  not happen in modern football. It doesn't fucking happen in
• 43:23
  modern football. Offenses are too good. They're too dynamic.
• 43:28
  And, you know, this has become an offensive league. They are winning
• 43:34
  and sort of like very believably so because of what he's
• 43:38
  doing. Now, props to Carson Wentz and Kyler Murray, who are trying to figure out
• 43:42
  this complex KOC offense and clearly struggling to do it without,
• 43:46
  you know, some injury issues and things in here and there. But like, they've not
• 43:50
  been great offensively. And that just— that highlight
• 43:54
  right there, we're, we're talking about like all-time shit. Yeah. I love
• 43:58
  Brian Flores. So do I. I want— I, I don't
• 44:02
  think that the Vikings can— they got to figure out their offense. Like, he can't
• 44:05
  keep doing this, but like, fuck. I love him. I love him too.
• 44:08
  My guy, he's fucking crushing it. I'm really— I'm— listen, I'm still very optimistic
• 44:13
  about the Minnesota Vikings. I'm looking forward to seeing this offense kind of get it
• 44:15
  together. You know, Kyler Murray hasn't had enough opportunity to kind of play in it.
• 44:18
  He got the win last week, so I'm looking forward to seeing him, you know,
• 44:20
  2 weeks healthy. I'm really excited to see where this team is in 3 weeks,
• 44:24
  like after a few more reps for Kyler and seeing where he actually
• 44:28
  is in this offense. Boy, getting another guy— if he can really avoid that,
• 44:31
  that'd be great. Week. I'm excited. The Vikings are a very interesting team,
• 44:35
  and I'm glad you and I were the first on it because everyone else is
• 44:38
  like, oh, it's Kyler. I'm like, shit, you just wait. You just
• 44:42
  fucking wait and see what the Minnesota Vikings do. And it also helps that the
• 44:45
  fucking Green Bay Packers are dog shit. It also helps that the Detroit
• 44:48
  Lions are kind of falling back a little bit now. The Bears,
• 44:52
  fucking contenders. Final little side note,
• 44:56
  Jets are looking improved on defense since last season. Geno Smith's playing
• 44:59
  out of his fucking mind. Risky, huh? The Bears defense cooked
• 45:03
  last week against Philly for the first time season. And Case Keenum looked like he
• 45:06
  was 2017 Case Keenum. This is a really interesting game. It's a really interesting game.
• 45:09
  Can I say something about Geno Smith? You may. Um,
• 45:13
  if the Raiders kept him and he's playing under Clint Kubiak right now, I think
• 45:16
  he'd be fucking playing amazing. I legitimately think the Raiders would be doing the exact
• 45:20
  same thing, if not probably better. Maybe better. Maybe better.
• 45:23
  He's— they're about the same age, him and Kirk. Yeah, he got fucked over like
• 45:26
  mid-30s big time with the Raiders last year. Yeah, big time. He got saddled—
• 45:31
  oh, it was a 2-season— fucking like everything's Groundhog Day at this point. But I'm
• 45:34
  telling you, like like the whole Chip Kelly of it all, the fucking— how he
• 45:36
  was set up to fucking fail miserably. Was it 2 seasons? It was last year.
• 45:40
  Yeah, no, Geno was on the Jets last year. He wasn't. He was on the
• 45:44
  Raiders last year. Who was the quarterback of the Jets last year?
• 45:48
  I don't know, but it wasn't Geno. This is Geno's first year back. Was it
• 45:51
  Justin Herbert? I mean, Justin, um,
• 45:55
  no one, no one, no one knows actually looking back. That was the horrible year
• 45:58
  of the Jets. I think everyone just forgot about it. Yeah, trust Gino
• 46:02
  was in Vegas last year. I know it
• 46:07
  was Justin Fields. That wasn't Geno Smith the whole
• 46:11
  time? No, Geno was sadly trying to play for Chip Kelly's
• 46:15
  offense when he got fired 6 weeks in. In my head, Geno Smith
• 46:20
  has been a Jet since last year. No, no, no, no,
• 46:23
  that was, that was Justin Fields. And well, I'm really glad that he's doing well.
• 46:26
  Even so, that's really interesting. That's even more interesting to me me because now it,
• 46:30
  it's like, okay, is this a good pairing with Aaron Glenn? I think it is
• 46:34
  so far because they're like, listen, they're, they're playing competitive games, which we have not
• 46:38
  seen on the Jets. My brain is— it's been a long week. It's been a
• 46:42
  long fucking week. Should we get away from football for a second? Yeah, it's not
• 46:45
  gonna get any better, but awesome. Let's get to the W because that always leads
• 46:49
  to not at all unrealistic expectations and opinions
• 46:53
  from a lot of fucking dipshits. Continue. Headline number 2: Caitlin
• 46:58
  Clark and the Fever have, uh, championship potential apparently, but what-ifs
• 47:01
  and uncertainty reign after their last, uh,
• 47:05
  latest ousting by the Aces. Uh, the post-game press conference
• 47:08
  was really fascinating. There's a few elements at play here.
• 47:12
  A'ja Wilson is the best player in the world. There's no question about
• 47:16
  that. Um, before we get into all the drama, let's bring up the A'ja Wilson
• 47:20
  graphic. Just so we can really start out with a bang. Let's do it.
• 47:23
  Let's do it. You know, because this is like we're talking about— we're talking about
• 47:28
  historic performances. A'ja Wilson is the first player in WNBA history with 3 straight 30-point
• 47:32
  games when facing elimination. She was contested on 39 of 48 field
• 47:37
  goals attempted in the series, converted on 79% of them.
• 47:41
  That is the highest percentage in a series since 2021. This is a
• 47:45
  player who is as clutch as anybody. In sports.
• 47:49
  She's on her way to winning her 4 millionth MVP.
• 47:53
  Yep. She's the best player in the world. Not just women's. She's one of
• 47:58
  the best basketball players in the world. In the world. And so with
• 48:02
  that context. Yes. And considering this is a championship team,
• 48:05
  a dynasty-style team, the Aces just want to—
• 48:09
  like, this is a dynasty that they're up against with a GOAT-level
• 48:13
  player in her prime. I don't understand why people
• 48:17
  are so freaked out that the Fever lost the series. It's a 3-game series.
• 48:21
  They're very tough. 3-game series are brutal.
• 48:25
  I did not expect them to win this. It was a tough draw. At no
• 48:28
  point did I expect to win this on both sides. On one side, it is
• 48:31
  not an indictment on the Fever. No. On the other side, it is also like,
• 48:36
  Fever fans, chill the fuck out. Someone's gotta win,
• 48:40
  and one of them's the Aces. And the Aces better. Better. Like, I don't
• 48:44
  know. Do people understand how long it took Michael
• 48:49
  Jordan and LeBron and all of these other,
• 48:53
  like, all-time players in men's sports that you think should have won a title really
• 48:57
  early because they were the greatest to win titles?
• 49:01
  Like, Michael Jordan couldn't win a fucking goddamn playoff series. Nope.
• 49:05
  And you guys, you're over here whining about Caitlin Clark, who's not even close to
• 49:09
  that level of player. Like, It's fine. Caitlin's a good player.
• 49:13
  Damn good. Kelsey Mitchell was great. Yeah, Leah Boston's a great player. Yeah,
• 49:16
  they're just not Jackie Young and Chelsea Gray and A'ja Wilson.
• 49:20
  And I just— this— not yet, at least.
• 49:23
  That's what I'm talking about. In 2026, right now, right now,
• 49:27
  A'ja Wilson might be the greatest of all time in WNBA.
• 49:30
  Like, what are we fucking talking about? So there's that element of it, which is
• 49:34
  like you ran up on a buzzsaw with a player who's the greatest clutch player
• 49:37
  in the league right now. The other part of it is that these,
• 49:41
  these people do not make it easy to feel bad for them. The Fever are
• 49:44
  just— they just don't fucking help it. And I'm like, they're so unlikable. I was
• 49:47
  waiting and I'm like, Caitlin Clark is a fucking charisma vacuum.
• 49:52
  And like, it does— like a charisma
• 49:55
  vacuum. She doesn't— she's— it's not even— she's not even absent of charisma.
• 49:59
  She actually sucks it out of the room like a fucking
• 50:03
  like when you get too close to a black hole. I've never seen anything like
• 50:07
  it. I don't want to— like, I'm tired of
• 50:11
  being bored by her, but when she steps off the court,
• 50:14
  she just makes everything feel uncomfortable.
• 50:18
  Now, post-game presser, they're all on— they're, they're pissy. They lost.
• 50:22
  Yeah, I get it. Aaliyah's not— Kelsey's not in a good mood. Stephanie White's
• 50:26
  not in a good mood. Caitlin's not in a good mood. But can I just
• 50:28
  say one thing? One thing? Sure. Stephanie White, fucking great leather jacket.
• 50:32
  I was always a great leather jacket. I was just fucking— I'm still,
• 50:36
  I'm still partial to the, uh, to the Becky sweatshirt
• 50:40
  under the blazer. Yes, but I have to say, she came out,
• 50:44
  and this is gonna be a rough reference for some of you people, but this
• 50:47
  was like Tori from Saved by the Bell. Sure, I know, you know, you know
• 50:50
  Tori. I fucking love Tori for all the 7 episodes she was in there,
• 50:54
  but every slightly alternative boy was Tori.
• 50:59
  Oh, we got the reruns when I was a kid. I'm like, one of the
• 51:02
  7 Tori episodes. Oh, we got a Tori episode. Yeah, huge news.
• 51:05
  Fucking love me some Tori. Yeah. Um, but they were,
• 51:09
  you know, they made some snide comments about the discrepancy
• 51:12
  in, um, in free throws.
• 51:16
  So the Aces had 35 to their 20. Stephanie White says they
• 51:20
  had 35 free throws and we had 20. And Caitlin Clark goes was interesting.
• 51:25
  Not helping. Oh, she— listen, I will say Caitlin Clark did wear
• 51:29
  an elbow to the mouth and she did bleed a little bit from the mouth,
• 51:31
  so I think that's fresh on her brain. I'm— listen, I'm just trying to— I'm
• 51:35
  trying to find some benefit of the doubt here. But why? Why do
• 51:39
  you feel the need to try? I don't fucking know. Yeah, I believe— I believe
• 51:43
  they call it white knighting. Yeah, for— I don't know why I'm doing it.
• 51:45
  For somebody who literally has 4 million white knights. Like,
• 51:48
  yeah, I'm gonna shut the fuck up now. What am I Um, but like
• 51:52
  the other thing is she, you know, there was a lot of, um,
• 51:56
  conversation on their end about just the reality
• 51:59
  that they don't have a ton of playoff experience as this sort of Big 3.
• 52:02
  This is their 5th or 6th game together as, um, as playoff contenders,
• 52:06
  and they went up against a, a team with way more experience. Yeah. Um,
• 52:10
  this, the B-plot to this is the conversation that,
• 52:14
  um, disingenuous Uh, white women
• 52:19
  are having in sports media, led by Christine Brennan, who is my
• 52:23
  new fucking enemy. Wait, question, who the fuck's Christine Brennan? She's been a longtime writer
• 52:27
  for USA Today. Um, oh, USA Today is all you had to say. But she
• 52:30
  was once a really respected sort of, uh, opinion writer and columnist.
• 52:34
  And I'm sure so was Michelle Tafoya. No, I mean, like,
• 52:37
  it's— it really— like, this Caitlin Clark thing, like, came out of nowhere to me.
• 52:40
  Like, it was weird. Yeah. Um, and she— so she and
• 52:44
  then someone that I— it doesn't even
• 52:47
  fucking matter. Both sort of made the point of like, now that the Fever are
• 52:51
  out, who's gonna want to watch this? Oh fuck, which is like, we've been doing
• 52:53
  this for 3 years. Um, so Christine Brennan wrote,
• 52:56
  there's joy among anti-CC WNBA fans
• 53:00
  but no joy among TV execs and sponsors. Sad reality
• 53:04
  hits the W with Fever now out. Based on 3 seasons of viewership data,
• 53:07
  when Caitlin Clark leaves, half of W's TV audience leaves as
• 53:10
  well. That's not actually true about that. That's actually a fake. She's also basing this
• 53:14
  on like regular season stats from like 2024 when she wrote a fucking book about
• 53:17
  Caitlin Clark. So she's bullshit. Oh, there it is. Oh, she's been selling a
• 53:21
  book. Did I not tell you? There it is. You did. You fucking buried that
• 53:24
  lead. Fuck this. Get the fuck out of here. But listen, I do agree
• 53:28
  because I have seen the numbers on regular season games and the highest rate.
• 53:30
  And no, Caitlin Clark, the fever's all over. They absolutely— I'm not gonna pretend
• 53:34
  that, that Caitlin Clark's not a draw. She's absolutely get a draw. But that,
• 53:37
  like, this disingenuous shit, especially from Caitlin Clark and that thing—
• 53:40
  interesting that they had more, more free throws than us. Motherfucker,
• 53:44
  no one's trying to force the fucking aces past you. If anything, they would
• 53:48
  try to force you past them. Get the fuck out of here with this.
• 53:51
  You've been the team that got more. Like, we've seen this over and over and
• 53:54
  over again. Yeah, like, your ass has got fucking— that's a great point, which is
• 53:57
  like, you— so your theory— but like, that's the thing is,
• 54:02
  even If let's say she's right, that means they
• 54:06
  think the aces are a bigger draw than you. So either way, none of this
• 54:10
  is real. None of what you guys are fucking talking about is real. Like,
• 54:12
  every one of your narratives are blown up immediately. Oh, they wanted
• 54:17
  the aces to get through. Well, then the aces are a bigger draw, so that
• 54:19
  kills your fucking statement. Oh, no, no, no, no. Like,
• 54:23
  this is, this is just screwed over. Well, it also ruins your fucking thing.
• 54:26
  Like, I don't know what else to say other than It's like a snake eating
• 54:29
  its own fucking tail right now. And do you want to know something? You want
• 54:33
  to know something so interesting? And Jemele Hill reminded people of this on Twitter.
• 54:36
  I already knew this. Do you remember Caitlin Clark's big Finals run last year?
• 54:41
  Because I don't. Because I don't think she was in it. They weren't in the—
• 54:44
  okay. And I do remember the ratings were good. They were the 2nd best WNBA
• 54:49
  Finals ratings in the history of the WNBA. 2nd highest
• 54:53
  in the history of the WNBA since like 2001. Oh, Tanya, that doesn't
• 54:57
  mean anything. You know, the WNBA only started 3 years ago when Caitlin Clark joined
• 55:00
  this. So that was interesting. Nowhere to be found, second highest
• 55:04
  ratings. Might have helped that the Phoenix Mercury and the Las Vegas
• 55:09
  Aces have massive fan bases who actually fucking care.
• 55:11
  And the greatest player in the world was in the fucking game. Now you're
• 55:16
  telling me that a Liberty-Aces final, if that was just like a thing or something
• 55:20
  like that, that's not gonna— shut up. You're telling me if Angel Reese is in
• 55:23
  the final— shut up. It's gonna be fine. Everybody relax.
• 55:26
  There are other stars in this league. You know, I talked about it.
• 55:30
  The ratings would go through the roof if this was Dream Fever.
• 55:34
  We know it. Yeah, we know it. No question. Angel Reese versus Caitlin
• 55:38
  Clark final would be fucking through the roof. Awesome.
• 55:41
  Again, they didn't feel the need to manufacture that, clearly. But also,
• 55:46
  that's the case for any league. You take the most
• 55:50
  like the biggest sort of college rivalry with these 2 stars who play
• 55:54
  together on Team USA and they have this really interesting relationship, and then you
• 55:58
  pit them. That would— that applies to any league. This is not like unique to
• 56:02
  the WNBA. We're in the Major League Baseball playoffs right now. What would be it
• 56:05
  to draw the most ratings? Dodgers-Yankees. I don't think the Yankees are gonna get there.
• 56:08
  I do think the Dodgers are gonna get there. Yeah, that's a market thing,
• 56:10
  not so much a— but true. But like, I'm trying to like make a similar
• 56:13
  correlation. Yeah, it's not because it's star-driven, but yes, the— but it would draw the
• 56:17
  most ratings. Yeah, Major League Baseball is not gonna fucking force it.
• 56:20
  No, because they'll get caught. Well, they're not smart enough. Trust me.
• 56:24
  Dumb dumb. Trust me. So then that's that.
• 56:27
  Excited for the Aces. Excited. I'm— and here's the thing that sucks. I am
• 56:31
  relieved that the Fever are out because I like— it's so
• 56:35
  toxic. It's really bad. The stuff people were saying about A'ja Wilson after she
• 56:39
  dealt with that fan, like, it gets so racist and it gets so
• 56:42
  gross. It's not fun. And so, like,
• 56:45
  I don't— like, I feel very much like the W is fine. So I'm not,
• 56:49
  like, trying to wish— everybody's fine. But I'm relieved they're gone.
• 56:52
  And I like Kelsey Mitchell and I like, I like watching Caitlin Clark. I like
• 56:57
  watching Caitlin Clark. But like the— listen, people get,
• 57:01
  people get hit, you bleed. Like, I need everybody. It hurts
• 57:05
  everybody. Everybody, everybody takes everything seriously. Would you believe this? This is going to shock
• 57:09
  all you motherfuckers. Professional sports, pretty fucking intense. Professional sports,
• 57:13
  pretty fucking high contact. And even the low contact leagues, Pretty fucking
• 57:17
  high. Most women are between the heights of 6'1 and 6'5.
• 57:20
  Like, what do you think? They're out there just being dainty little flowers? Dude,
• 57:24
  buck up. The most vicious fucking athletes I ever knew were female
• 57:28
  water polo players at UCLA. They were fucking vicious.
• 57:31
  Yeah, I was scared of them. Yeah.
• 57:34
  All right. Our vibe. We got a weird vibe today,
• 57:38
  and it's not— it's not about to get more— but like, we need to talk
• 57:41
  about— we need to talk about the Senate passing the Protect College Sports Act.
• 57:45
  It now moves to a vote in the House, which is very much
• 57:49
  up in the air. There is not a— there's, there's by no means a
• 57:53
  strong consensus one way or the other on whether or not this will pass through
• 57:57
  the House. Here's what I want to lead in with before we
• 58:00
  get into even more that I learned about what I don't like about this act.
• 58:03
  And I think you're going to be really annoyed. Oh, boy. I know you already
• 58:06
  are. I'm already very unhappy. A disappointing
• 58:09
  number of Democratic senators voted to pass this bill.
• 58:13
  Now, it's been labeled as bipartisan because it
• 58:16
  was initiated by also a Democrat along with Ted
• 58:20
  Cruz. But realistically, this was a, like,
• 58:23
  conservative and sort of Southern states-led act.
• 58:28
  I'd love to say it's union breaking, but there is no union. So it didn't
• 58:31
  break a union. It basically prevents one. It basically created an abortion
• 58:35
  for a union. Yeah. So then Disappointing
• 58:39
  number of Democratic senators voted to pass this, including Amy Klobuchar,
• 58:42
  Jon Ossoff, and Alex Padilla.
• 58:46
  3 people who really disappointed me in that space. I would, I would expect this
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  from Klobuchar because she's done some shady stuff in the past, but Ossoff
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  and Padilla really bummed me out. That really pisses me off.
• 58:57
  Among the nay votes was both senators from Massachusetts,
• 59:01
  Maryland, New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. Along with
• 59:04
  Adam Schiff, Cory Booker, Chris Murphy, Chuck Schumer,
• 59:08
  Bernie Sanders, a bunch of other ones, and Republicans Rand Paul and Rick
• 59:12
  Scott. Gotta love Rand Paul going rogue at all times. Slow down.
• 59:16
  Rand Paul only fucking went rogue because they didn't give a full—
• 59:19
  which, by the way, Rand Paul tried to sneak this in. I know Rand Paul
• 59:23
  wanted this to be a full, a fucking full
• 59:28
  antitrust exemption, meaning send back to the fucking
• 59:31
  Dark Ages. In fact, so much worse than it ever was. Really funny
• 59:35
  to be like, this is not shitty enough. This is not— this is
• 59:39
  not— I'm voting— so I'm voting with Elizabeth Warren. That's right.
• 59:42
  This, this doesn't hurt fucking disenfranchised
• 59:46
  Black players enough. No. Yeah, doesn't hurt them enough. You know what, was that probably
• 59:50
  Rick Scott's issue too? Probably Florida, because like, what is your deal, bro?
• 59:54
  Amazing. Um, so I will say it was really fascinating, and I actually want
• 59:57
  your opinion on this before we go into some of the bill issues. Um,
• 1:00:01
  this, you know, uh, Minnesota, both there who are
• 1:00:05
  normally pretty liberal and sort of on the right side of things, both their senators
• 1:00:09
  voted for this bill. Embarrassing.
• 1:00:12
  We split. Like, thank God for Adam Schiff because Alex Padilla went
• 1:00:16
  the wrong way. I'm going to literally send a message to Alex Padilla about this,
• 1:00:18
  by the way. Um, and thank you, Adam Schiff.
• 1:00:22
  The senators, the, the states with senators that, that stayed
• 1:00:25
  on board because John Ossoff went against Raphael Warnock. Don't love that.
• 1:00:29
  I really don't love that. I don't like— I don't understand what the fuck Ossoff's
• 1:00:33
  doing. I don't either. They were all Northeast
• 1:00:38
  states completely. It was basically— so it was new. It was
• 1:00:42
  the bottom half of New England, New York, New Jersey,
• 1:00:46
  Maryland. So the bluest
• 1:00:49
  part of the Northeast, and that's it. Small states,
• 1:00:54
  not a ton of like college football culture. Not saying that there aren't
• 1:00:58
  great college football teams in New York, Rutgers, Maryland. Like, I got that. But like,
• 1:01:02
  this feels— and you can tell me if I'm wrong— like states
• 1:01:06
  who are saying like, from the outside looking in, where we are not run by
• 1:01:10
  college sports, where our states don't rely on the fucking culture and the
• 1:01:13
  economy of college sports, we're not fucking passing
• 1:01:17
  this. And the rest of these senators are like, you don't understand.
• 1:01:20
  Our constituents want this shit to be like they
• 1:01:24
  want this. Then explain, explain Padilla to me then. Well, we have
• 1:01:28
  a shit ton of college sports. I got that. But which college? Come on.
• 1:01:32
  This is not Southern. This is not SEC territory. But like,
• 1:01:35
  by and large, you have to look at our economies aren't put together by that.
• 1:01:39
  That is a very concentrated area of the country that said
• 1:01:43
  no to this. Like across the board. What is that about? What is that about?
• 1:01:46
  It's some of the— it's, it's the grouping of people that understand that you can't
• 1:01:50
  fucking give antitrust exemptions to a fucking organization without
• 1:01:54
  an ability to have the players union at
• 1:01:57
  the table. There can be no collective bargaining. Those are people who
• 1:02:01
  stood on principle. John Ossoff, who's in Georgia, is like, no, I need my Bulldogs
• 1:02:06
  to get money. I'm really— I need to look into more about what his reasoning
• 1:02:09
  was because I'm genuinely really annoyed. That's the only thing I can come up with
• 1:02:12
  off the top of my head. I'm not as surprised by Padilla, but I am
• 1:02:15
  annoyed. I'm actually very surprised because Adam Schiff went the other way.
• 1:02:19
  I'm surprised. I've had party solidarity in the— like, that's really weird.
• 1:02:22
  No, I agree. I don't understand Padilla because he's a California senator,
• 1:02:26
  right? What fucking California city is based on college
• 1:02:30
  fucking football? Name it. I know USC and UCLA
• 1:02:34
  are the biggest colleges in this state. Especially around football right
• 1:02:38
  now, as he represents this area, that whereas— but his north— but
• 1:02:42
  the fucking— does the Los Angeles fucking
• 1:02:45
  economy be based on USC and UCLA football? They are the— no,
• 1:02:50
  but they're in the fucking Big Ten now, dude.
• 1:02:52
  That's the problem. They're in— they're in bed with a bunch of fucking
• 1:02:56
  teams from— and so like, he's also making good with all those senators
• 1:03:00
  too, which is like crazy. And I'm not even defending it.
• 1:03:03
  It's just bullshit. It fucking pisses me off, dude. It's such dog shit. It's just,
• 1:03:07
  it just goes against all the principles of what this should be about. Like,
• 1:03:10
  if we were to do this, great. A union needs to be created. A head
• 1:03:14
  of the union needs to be created. A CBA needs to be built.
• 1:03:18
  That's not being— that's not happening. This is, this is seemingly all
• 1:03:22
  part of the plan to roll this back so basically the SEC schools can get
• 1:03:25
  back to paying people under the fucking table so the SEC can get big again.
• 1:03:29
  ESPN Rolling out every fucking politician they can in primetime spots
• 1:03:33
  so they can go ahead and get their words out. No union person on the
• 1:03:36
  players' side is out there because there isn't fucking one. This is a fucking shit
• 1:03:41
  show. It's really bad. So opponents of the bill, from labor
• 1:03:45
  groups to athlete organizations to the NCAA— I always get that wrong—
• 1:03:49
  NAACP, along with the 22 senators
• 1:03:53
  who voted against it, say it unfairly places limits on athletes. Athletes without allowing them
• 1:03:57
  an equal seat at the table. We've said this. Here's where things
• 1:04:00
  get interesting. Some more stuff that sort of expands upon what we've talked
• 1:04:04
  about before. I think the better way to frame it is to protect the NCAA
• 1:04:08
  Act, which you and I have said, said Sam Ehrlich, an associate
• 1:04:12
  professor at Boise State who tracks college sports litigation. It gives the NCAA significant
• 1:04:17
  institutional power to be able to continue to control college sports
• 1:04:20
  at the expense of athletes who've been able to push the NCAA on some of
• 1:04:23
  their illegal business practices over the years. Compensation for coaches
• 1:04:27
  and administration has grown exponentially.
• 1:04:30
  On September 15th, Cantwell released
• 1:04:35
  a report citing major increases in costs from 2005 to 2023:
• 1:04:39
  322% in recruiting costs,
• 1:04:42
  nearly 300% in sports equipment, around 250%
• 1:04:47
  in both medical and game day expenses, and more than 200% in
• 1:04:51
  travel. Coaching salaries increased from 2005 to
• 1:04:55
  2023, a whopping 370%
• 1:05:00
  over the same period. Big league athletic departments have increasingly
• 1:05:04
  added positions like general managers and in-house video production crews that
• 1:05:08
  were once the exclusive domain of, of professional teams. The bill's
• 1:05:12
  supporters point to provisions around women's and Olympic
• 1:05:17
  sports that require schools to maintain scholarships and roster spots for such programs. But those
• 1:05:20
  provisions expire after 9 years for large schools and
• 1:05:24
  after 4 years for mid-sized schools. And exemptions could be made
• 1:05:28
  for schools with failing athletics revenue or other demonstrable
• 1:05:31
  financial hardship. So this— even the protections
• 1:05:35
  they keep touting around women's sports and Olympic sports are
• 1:05:39
  not actually fully protected because there's a way to have an exemption.
• 1:05:43
  370% increase in
• 1:05:47
  college coaching salaries,
• 1:05:51
  in-game production houses or in-house production
• 1:05:56
  general managers. No CBA,
• 1:06:00
  no player representation in any of the conversations around this act.
• 1:06:04
  No player representation if this were to pass.
• 1:06:08
  This is so bad. It's so bad that
• 1:06:12
  I now have beef with senators. Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  Senators that I have voted for. Yeah. And I will—
• 1:06:20
  I'm not voting for you. I will literally like— I'm having— I interviewed
• 1:06:24
  Alex Padilla in June. I went to the Capitol,
• 1:06:28
  sat down in his office. What the fuck were you thinking? And I sat
• 1:06:32
  with him and talked to him. And I am so
• 1:06:35
  disappointed. I'm so fucking disappointed.
• 1:06:39
  And I am going to go and look, and I am going to reach out
• 1:06:42
  to his camp and find out what the fuck happened here. And I
• 1:06:46
  am going to look at our representatives who are going to be voting on this
• 1:06:50
  in the House and find out what their plans are. Because whoever
• 1:06:54
  represents us in the House— can't think of them right now because God forbid,
• 1:06:58
  I'd like— it's too many fucking people. They're voting on this and I'm
• 1:07:03
  pissed. When are they voting on this? Because Congress seems to be suspended quite a
• 1:07:06
  bit. Early November. Okay. Well,
• 1:07:10
  yeah, maybe Thomas Massie will, like, threaten to name more Epstein people
• 1:07:14
  and they'll just suspend Congress for another 5 months. So that's the
• 1:07:17
  update on that in case you guys want to look at— infuriating.
• 1:07:20
  If you want to look at who— if your senator,
• 1:07:24
  you know, take a look at how they voted and if they voted Yay.
• 1:07:28
  I would look into why. I would really look into why, because we
• 1:07:31
  are, we are looking at a bill that is going to decimate
• 1:07:34
  player rights. Yes. They say that they're going to keep NIL. They'll keep
• 1:07:38
  NIL, but it will not. It will be very— it will be so
• 1:07:42
  much more similar to what was happening before with players getting paid under the table.
• 1:07:45
  And the power structure, more importantly, will benefit not
• 1:07:51
  only the NCAA, but it will allow them to collude. And that is, it's going
• 1:07:55
  to destroy this. It's just a fucking embarrassment. I just,
• 1:07:58
  like, I even tweeted out the other day that this is all the point.
• 1:08:02
  You know, NCAA definitely deserves themselves some antitrust exemptions
• 1:08:06
  because they've, they had their history of, of not fucking over student athletes.
• 1:08:10
  It's just acceptable now. They should be getting rid of the antitrust in fucking professional
• 1:08:14
  sports. Altogether. Let alone adding more on. It's fucking embarrassing. Like, what fucking
• 1:08:19
  universe am I in? And the Democrats that voted for this I am a fucking
• 1:08:21
  Democrat. The Democrats that voted yes on this, dude, fuck all
• 1:08:25
  of you. It's like the most anti-democratic thing you can
• 1:08:28
  do. It's so anti-union. It is so anti-taking care of the little guy,
• 1:08:32
  dude. What the fuck? That's why— this is why I don't identify as
• 1:08:36
  a Democrat. I'm registered as one because I'm registered as one, but like, I don't
• 1:08:40
  because like, I'm left. I'm left of all these people. They don't represent— like,
• 1:08:44
  so many of them don't actually represent— angers me— the left.
• 1:08:48
  And like, I do— I will say this is where my Massachusetts elitism
• 1:08:52
  sometimes comes through because Massachusetts is not a perfect state. But like, God, it is
• 1:08:56
  so rare that the Massachusetts senators don't land on the
• 1:09:00
  right side of this shit. And I'm— I want
• 1:09:04
  to make this— but I hear you. But I want to make this abundantly clear.
• 1:09:05
  I'm— the guy I'm most disappointed in is Padilla. And I'm sure you are
• 1:09:09
  as well. Very much like he's at the very top of my list.
• 1:09:12
  Also, if you're number 2, But I'm like, I'm really, really frustrated,
• 1:09:15
  especially because it's like, damn, like I just— I had a conversation
• 1:09:20
  with you a couple months ago about like, you know, standing up for the,
• 1:09:23
  for the locals in the community and the people who deserve it the most and
• 1:09:27
  blah blah blah. And it turns out shilling for the NCAA— turns out, turns out
• 1:09:30
  the little guy's the NCAA because of those big bad athletes getting money.
• 1:09:34
  Make sure you stay good with the people in fucking Michigan and Ohio.
• 1:09:37
  Like, okay, cool. I just got nothing. Like, that, that just pisses me
• 1:09:41
  off to a degree I can't even remotely
• 1:09:44
  begin to describe. Like, it just makes me fucking sick.
• 1:09:47
  It's so fucking exploitative. It's so disgusting.
• 1:09:51
  It's just like players and NCAA athletes just
• 1:09:55
  got power, just got a seat at the table. And by the way, I'm using
• 1:09:58
  seat at the table figuratively because clearly they don't have a fucking seat at the
• 1:10:02
  table because now just all the cronies are out, you know, ESPN.
• 1:10:05
  Fucking, fucking ESPN. Just, just makes
• 1:10:09
  me fucking sick. This is, this is how it feels. Stitch Jen said, we are
• 1:10:12
  in fucking hell. We are. We're in hell.
• 1:10:16
  This is fucked up. Like, I, you know, I, I don't—
• 1:10:20
  Isaiah says the, the whole thing is anti-American. It is. Oh no,
• 1:10:24
  also Ossoff is a Trojan horse. He might be. I'm fucking starting to think that.
• 1:10:28
  I, I— he's too handsome for his own good. He's a really good looking guy.
• 1:10:31
  Yeah, that's the problem. Um, I'm in the same way
• 1:10:35
  in registration but say something different in person. Tiara, it's like,
• 1:10:40
  that's the thing is like, I'm not— yeah, I don't— you, you have
• 1:10:43
  to— I'm obviously gonna— in California you have to register as a Democrat
• 1:10:47
  to get a Democrat ballot. And like, obviously I would never vote— I, I literally
• 1:10:51
  never vote red ever in my life. Me neither. But like, I also like,
• 1:10:54
  this is getting frustrating. It really
• 1:10:58
  fucking makes me mad. Like, it just, it just does. It's like How about this?
• 1:11:01
  Forget, forget party lines. Forget all the party lines. Forget the red.
• 1:11:04
  Forget the blue. Forget all of this shit. Can we just— let's just, let's just
• 1:11:08
  boil this down. Fucking right and wrong.
• 1:11:12
  Right and wrong. That's it. Like, the amount of people that just vote
• 1:11:16
  for wrong is fucking insane. It's fucking insane. It's like,
• 1:11:19
  it's like none of you were raised by decent people. None of you are decent
• 1:11:23
  people. All of you are fucked up. It's just like, I don't fucking get it.
• 1:11:25
  It's fucking insane. State. Why do you not know the difference between right or wrong?
• 1:11:29
  And why are 4 tiny-ass states in the Northeast
• 1:11:33
  fighting more for the representation of your massive
• 1:11:37
  swaths of Black athletes in this country than your piece of shit
• 1:11:41
  senators? And that, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:44
  Like, what the fuck? Like, and I mean,
• 1:11:47
  I obviously know, like, I have my guess, but it just is bullshit. It's bullshit.
• 1:11:51
  Fucking drives me nuts. That's— but, and again, oh God, why are you guys
• 1:11:54
  talking about politics? Sports are politics. Yeah, they always have been, they always will be.
• 1:11:58
  It's just gotten louder lately, and some of you are now finally starting to wake
• 1:12:01
  up. So we're never— I'm never gonna not talk about politics. Always. That's what— that's
• 1:12:05
  what we do. This— this is a sports podcast that talks about things that actually
• 1:12:10
  matter. And you know what's so cool about us? What's that? We know ball.
• 1:12:13
  Yeah. So like, we break down games, we talk ball, we get into the nitty-gritty,
• 1:12:17
  and then we rant about fucking politics, and then We get
• 1:12:21
  into Media Corner and shit on them too because they're part of that too.
• 1:12:24
  Let's fucking go, Media Corner! Hit it, Mocha.
• 1:12:28
  So, um, Tony Romo,
• 1:12:31
  uh, and CBS Sports have parted ways after his July OWI arrest.
• 1:12:36
  They, they've, they've made it clear they are done with Tony Romo.
• 1:12:40
  The financial terms of the separation weren't disclosed, but The Athletic's Andrew
• 1:12:43
  Marchand reported that roughly 4 years and $72 million remained on the
• 1:12:48
  deal when he was arrested. He released a statement of his own shortly after CBS's
• 1:12:53
  announcement, his first public comments since September 1st, in which
• 1:12:56
  he acknowledged an overreliance on alcohol while trying to
• 1:13:00
  wean himself off pain medication and said he hoped to eventually return to the network.
• 1:13:05
  It's a pretty stunning fall for an analyst who once
• 1:13:08
  was sort of like, oh wow, this is the future of commentating, right? And over
• 1:13:13
  the years, you know, he replaced Phil Simms in 2017 and And
• 1:13:17
  was kind of an instant sensation. Like, really was really, really great. Like, people loved
• 1:13:20
  it. And I got to say, he was really, really good. He was great.
• 1:13:22
  He was really fucking good. And I genuinely do credit him
• 1:13:25
  with a shift in the position by the quarterbacks
• 1:13:30
  who joined the booth since. I do think we don't get this
• 1:13:34
  iteration of Tom Brady without him. I agree. And so I do
• 1:13:38
  genuinely credit him. Which, to Fox's credit, Tom Brady's doing really well. Really well.
• 1:13:42
  He really threw a meatball sub last fucking— that? Did you hear that? Like,
• 1:13:45
  fuck yeah, I heard that last week. Gorgeous. I'm not gonna swear, I'm gonna still
• 1:13:49
  be weird. He's so weird, but best. Fuck, he is doing
• 1:13:53
  really well. He is. Um, but we don't get that, you know. We were stuck
• 1:13:56
  in a, in, in a 20-year cycle of people, you know,
• 1:14:00
  really trying to replicate one style of color commentating. And,
• 1:14:04
  um, it was like, not everybody is going to be able to do what,
• 1:14:08
  you know, John Madden and, and these these guys were doing, and it
• 1:14:12
  just wasn't working. And then they were trying to be Troy Aikman, and that wasn't
• 1:14:15
  working, and it was all rough. Um, but you know,
• 1:14:19
  his reputation faded in the last couple years. People started questioning his
• 1:14:22
  preparation. He would fill airtime with kind of like
• 1:14:26
  non-sequiturs and weird bullshit. He was getting— he got lazy.
• 1:14:29
  He got lazy. He got complacent. He was tasting himself. He's the
• 1:14:33
  face of Corona all of a sudden during the football season. It's like, it was,
• 1:14:37
  it was just awkward. It system. Oh yeah, that, that aged poorly.
• 1:14:40
  Um, listen, there— I under— like,
• 1:14:44
  I understand everybody turning on him and his commentary because I did think he got
• 1:14:47
  lazy. I did not like his work for the last couple of years. That's part
• 1:14:50
  of my theory. That's part of— do you want me to debut my theory?
• 1:14:52
  I would love you to debut your theory because I think our theory is exactly
• 1:14:55
  the same. Okay, go ahead. Um, I— this
• 1:15:00
  makes me a little bit sad. Yeah, but not in the way that I'm like,
• 1:15:03
  he should absolutely be able to keep his job and Like, no, there should be
• 1:15:07
  like no issue with it. I don't drunk drive. Don't, don't— like, there are
• 1:15:11
  consequences to these things, and I think seeing consequences is like
• 1:15:16
  fair and reasonable. Yeah. Um, but I don't
• 1:15:19
  like the way— I don't like what players endure quietly
• 1:15:24
  after retirement and what is
• 1:15:27
  unspoken about the things that we see and And
• 1:15:32
  Tony Romo having a drinking problem very
• 1:15:36
  clearly and being in retirement, there are
• 1:15:39
  a lot of studies that have been done over the years, both by NFL-funded studies
• 1:15:43
  and independent studies in the realm of understanding
• 1:15:48
  what happens with retired NFL players, their relationship to alcohol,
• 1:15:51
  opioids, anything that's sort of mind-numbing. We're talking about players
• 1:15:56
  who have endured several concussions. Tony Romo absolutely dealt with a lot of head injuries.
• 1:16:01
  And, um, he talks about trying to get off
• 1:16:04
  pain meds. What were those pain— like,
• 1:16:08
  this dude is hurt. He's in pain. He's in the kind
• 1:16:12
  of pain that even you as a former player who's constantly in
• 1:16:16
  pain— just full transparency, uh, just to explain
• 1:16:19
  that, uh, I am like constantly in pain.
• 1:16:23
  Like, and I was a baseball player. I caught a little, but I did a
• 1:16:26
  lot of catching work, and I played for 11 years, and I played Like baseball
• 1:16:29
  is, compared to football, is anything but a high-intensity contact sport.
• 1:16:34
  Um, I had plenty of contact, make no mistake. There is contact, there's plenty of
• 1:16:37
  contact, make no mistake, but it's not fucking— you can get hit in the head
• 1:16:39
  by like balls, and I have been hit in the head multiple times. Trust me.
• 1:16:42
  Uh, my hands hurt like non-stop,
• 1:16:46
  my hips hurt non-stop. I have—
• 1:16:49
  I still have a torn UCL, a torn rotator cuff, a torn labrum.
• 1:16:53
  I have a have a fucked up, uh, right ankle that has— that needs surgery,
• 1:16:57
  but I'm never gonna get it. Um, I am in perpetual
• 1:17:01
  pain, and I've just gotten used to it. So I can only imagine
• 1:17:05
  how much pain Tony Romo is at all times. I truly
• 1:17:09
  can only imagine. Because what you're doing is you're thinking about all the pain you're
• 1:17:12
  in. You're taking— you know, Marshawn Lynch just talked about them,
• 1:17:16
  like, measuring how many car crashes he was in Objectively
• 1:17:20
  in the— across the course of a game, like, like 30-mile-an-hour,
• 1:17:24
  70-mile-an-hour car crashes. Can't stress enough.
• 1:17:27
  So you have all this pain. Even let's say his, his physical pain is
• 1:17:31
  as bad as yours. Let's say it's 10% more. Let's say that's all it
• 1:17:35
  is. Let's say it's 10% more. Now you add in the amount of concussions,
• 1:17:40
  the amount of times your brain's been scrambled, and what
• 1:17:44
  that does to you. Like what that does and all the— and like,
• 1:17:49
  I— when I— so when I hear about substance abuse and
• 1:17:53
  you see somebody who is a really good NFL quarterback and a really
• 1:17:56
  bright-futured NFL analyst,
• 1:18:00
  somebody who was doing great in the booth as a color commentator, and you
• 1:18:03
  watch the decline in his— in the
• 1:18:07
  quality of his work, you see somebody who is sort
• 1:18:11
  of exhibiting the signs of a drunk at work. I don't
• 1:18:15
  mean to, and that's not me being shitty about Tony Romo, like being
• 1:18:19
  like just not being able to show up talking about random bullshit on
• 1:18:23
  air. All I can think about is all of
• 1:18:27
  these men who've talked about this feeling in
• 1:18:31
  retirement and what happens to their bodies, what happens to their brains
• 1:18:35
  and what they do to cope. So it's not like I'd like, I don't,
• 1:18:38
  this just bums me out because it's just like another sort of like the
• 1:18:42
  NFL, it just feels like they're sort of drop-kicking him
• 1:18:45
  into like the next, like, figure it out. And I, and I,
• 1:18:50
  I know he's a gajillionaire with all the resources in the world. I do
• 1:18:54
  know that. But I don't like that they don't— that we don't acknowledge that Tony
• 1:18:58
  Romo is very likely dealing with pain, head trauma,
• 1:19:02
  and substance abuse that's related to that from playing.
• 1:19:06
  And they're just like Oh well, he drank and so— so like,
• 1:19:10
  it's the same thing as these dudes who end up putting bullets to their chest.
• 1:19:13
  It's like, well, you know, he drank himself and
• 1:19:17
  drugged himself and had all these problems until he killed himself.
• 1:19:20
  Like, no, it's not all not related. And I
• 1:19:24
  don't want to sit in this moment and not look and see like somebody who's
• 1:19:27
  clearly struggling regardless of whether you— like, we can judge
• 1:19:31
  what he did and say it was wrong. And also understand that, like,
• 1:19:34
  I don't want in 10 years to hear that Tony Romo was living
• 1:19:38
  in an apartment alone and put a bullet through his chest. Like,
• 1:19:42
  and it sounds so crazy because people
• 1:19:45
  don't understand how degenerative this is and how, like, how quickly it
• 1:19:49
  can go. That's what happens. That is absolutely
• 1:19:52
  what happens. And I feel like we're never alarmist enough about this stuff.
• 1:19:56
  So this is not to say that CBS shouldn't part ways. But I do think
• 1:20:00
  that there's like a little bit of like, I can't consume the NFL with the
• 1:20:04
  amount that I do. I can't benefit off of it, profit off of talking about
• 1:20:08
  it without also acknowledging that like, this bums me out. It does.
• 1:20:12
  Like, I'm not going to sit here on my high horse and be like,
• 1:20:13
  you should do better while I watch them get their brains beaten. Yeah, I'm not
• 1:20:17
  doing that. I feel bad for Tony Romo in this situation. This does suck.
• 1:20:20
  He had a great run, by the way. Make no mistake, he was a great
• 1:20:24
  NFL quarterback. He wasn't like— he's not going to gonna go down in history.
• 1:20:27
  But like, he was great. No, no. And by the way, I'm also saying like,
• 1:20:30
  I also— as a commentator too, like, he had a really good run. 9 years.
• 1:20:34
  Crazy that he's been doing that for 9 years. Um, yeah, I mean, in the
• 1:20:37
  last like 5 have kind of sucked. They have sucked, and I'll freely admit that.
• 1:20:40
  But you know, my, my issue is that like, it wasn't that, but it's— you
• 1:20:44
  make a very, very good point. Yeah, it's a little dark when you get into
• 1:20:47
  that. I mean, the comments are sort of talking about too, like, just their— the
• 1:20:50
  injuries that they've endured Um, yeah, and like blown
• 1:20:54
  out knees. I did it halfway through my junior year and I haven't been able
• 1:20:57
  to kneel since. Dude, it's tough. Like, it's brutal, you know? That, that is a
• 1:21:00
  crazy thing to be dealing with. Like, still,
• 1:21:03
  like, these, these— even in our comment sections,
• 1:21:07
  like, understand just how deeply painful these
• 1:21:11
  injuries can last for the rest of your life. And we still—
• 1:21:15
  like, people still don't understand how violent that sport is. It's crazy.
• 1:21:18
  Even now it's gone soft. It's gone soft.
• 1:21:21
  Oh, fuck off. Fuck off. You know what, also the guys are bigger and
• 1:21:25
  stronger than they ever were. Yeah. And by the way, you, you, you, um,
• 1:21:28
  you old heads, like, it was tougher in our day. Motherfucker, you guys wouldn't make
• 1:21:31
  this league based on the size and speed these guys are. By the way,
• 1:21:35
  Myles Garrett and Aaron Donald, like, if they
• 1:21:38
  exist— like, if you took them right now and put them in 1977,
• 1:21:42
  they would be aliens. The Steelers wouldn't, wouldn't get
• 1:21:46
  a touchdown. Not one. Not fucking— oh, the steel curtain, my ass.
• 1:21:49
  Yeah, I do this all the time with baseball. Like, like, and, and by the
• 1:21:52
  way, I was a pro, but like, I cannot compete. I retired in 2019.
• 1:21:57
  I cannot compete in today's Major League Baseball. It's gotten that
• 1:22:01
  much more difficult since I retired, and I only retired in 2019.
• 1:22:05
  Like, I'm not— and the old heads from the '90s, like, we were better back
• 1:22:09
  then. Motherfucker, you saw 3 guys that threw above 92 to. They are the— like,
• 1:22:13
  everybody throws 105 now. Fuck off. These pass rushers are the same size and
• 1:22:17
  stronger and faster. They are. And that's what I'm saying. You're talking about— if you're
• 1:22:20
  talking about like Terry Bradshaw doesn't see a fucking Super Bowl ring. Oh, if on
• 1:22:24
  the other side every time was Myles Garrett and fucking TJ
• 1:22:28
  Watt. Be real clear, it's just a different world. It's a different game. Doesn't mean
• 1:22:32
  they weren't phenomenal in their game. Their game was just different. No, it's relative.
• 1:22:35
  It's relative. It's relative. But like, it's, it's crazy. Like Lawrence Taylor for
• 1:22:39
  his time, there's nothing— no one's going to beat the dominance. But like
• 1:22:43
  right now, that dude would be slow as hell. Now, that being said, Lawrence Taylor
• 1:22:46
  would probably have modern technology, modern workouts. He'd probably be one of the best
• 1:22:50
  in the game right now. Yeah. When you pull— if you just pulled him from
• 1:22:53
  1986, if you pulled him from 1986 and put him in now, of course
• 1:22:57
  I love— like, I do the same thing all the time where I'm like,
• 1:22:59
  no, if that athlete was born in this— I told you this on the show
• 1:23:03
  where I was like, imagine if Barry Bonds was born in 2001. I can only
• 1:23:05
  imagine what he'd have. I don't know what he'd fucking do right now. But it'd
• 1:23:08
  probably be crazy. Maybe he'd be Shohei. Maybe he'd be pitching too. Maybe. I'm just
• 1:23:12
  saying, like, it's just— it's one of those things that really irks me, and it's
• 1:23:16
  kind of a tragic thing. My theory was more along the lines of just CBS
• 1:23:20
  just got what they needed. And you're— and also that CBS
• 1:23:24
  wanted the out. But why would they want the out that bad? Because they were
• 1:23:28
  working with an alcoholic. Like, maybe— like, I mean, let's be honest, we don't
• 1:23:32
  have like a bunch of fucking like studs calling games all over the
• 1:23:36
  place. Nobody has liked Chris Collinsworth for 25 years, and the dude's
• 1:23:40
  job is rock solid. This is not about like, you know what
• 1:23:44
  I mean? It's like having complaints about,
• 1:23:48
  about color commentators is nothing new. Tony Romo
• 1:23:51
  was really struggling to do that job, and you cannot tell me
• 1:23:55
  that his ability to do it for the first couple of years just disappeared
• 1:23:59
  out of nowhere because he didn't care to do the job anymore. I don't believe
• 1:24:03
  that. Well, these guys don't want anything, anything more than
• 1:24:06
  being proximate to the game. Well, they don't want anything more
• 1:24:10
  than that. That's what's so important to them. That's why these dudes
• 1:24:14
  do everything they can to stay close to it. Well, so you are right.
• 1:24:18
  They were looking for the excuse and they got it. And I wish that instead
• 1:24:21
  of doing that, they had been like, what if you— we're putting you on
• 1:24:24
  leave until you go to rehab. Yes. But instead they just let him fucking
• 1:24:28
  drive himself into potentially a deadly situation. And I'm worried
• 1:24:31
  about it, but I hopefully, hopefully Hopefully that doesn't end up being the case.
• 1:24:34
  But don't worry, we're gonna go from one dark story to a much darker one.
• 1:24:38
  Sorry, we don't make the rules. Boy, oh boy, the headlines. Fuck me,
• 1:24:42
  Media Corner 2, Prime Video.
• 1:24:45
  Boy, boy, fucking boy,
• 1:24:50
  you guys really want to rehabilitate Deshaun
• 1:24:54
  fucking Watson, huh? They do. Fuck me,
• 1:24:58
  Tony Gonzalez, Prime Video, go all in.
• 1:25:02
  Between Taylor Rooks pressing Deshaun Watson on the skepticism
• 1:25:07
  Browns fans still feel toward him, Al Michaels waving off
• 1:25:10
  what he said was, quote, the whole Deshaun Watson thing as
• 1:25:15
  a story everybody already knows. Prime Video's Thursday
• 1:25:19
  Night Football coverage had already devoted considerable airtime to how the public ought
• 1:25:24
  to regard the Browns quarterback. And after Cleveland's win over
• 1:25:28
  Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers, Gonzalez Tony, to be specific,
• 1:25:32
  weighed in on the postgame show lauding Watson for the
• 1:25:36
  obstacles he's overcome both on and off the field. He said, you can't
• 1:25:40
  say enough about the shot, and we talked about it in the pregame show,
• 1:25:44
  the adversity that he's gone through on the field, off the field,
• 1:25:47
  everybody doubting him, the home crowd right there. They're going to be cheering
• 1:25:51
  for him from here on out, but the stuff that he's gone through, you have
• 1:25:55
  to take your hat off to him and say, wow, Because he looks fantastic.
• 1:25:59
  This is a very good football team, but Deshaun Watson, to me, man,
• 1:26:02
  I'm so proud and happy.
• 1:26:07
  Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I'm putting up my middle finger.
• 1:26:10
  Fuck you. Fuck you. This is the most embarrassing shit
• 1:26:14
  I've ever seen. Did you go to— are you— were you a part of some
• 1:26:16
  sort of, I don't know, Cornell fraternity? That's the only thing I can come
• 1:26:19
  up with. Hey, well, I mean, I'm not gonna say too much,
• 1:26:23
  but Tony Gonzalez,
• 1:26:28
  he doesn't have the best reputation. I'm not gonna say— I'm not
• 1:26:32
  gonna say he's a Deshaun Watson style person. I've not heard that.
• 1:26:37
  I wouldn't date him. I wouldn't either. I would— and not based on this.
• 1:26:40
  Not based on this. Oh, good to know. Just listen, all I know is that
• 1:26:44
  was the most embarrassing fucking thing I think I've ever seen said out loud.
• 1:26:47
  You motherfucker. Like, rehabilitating— this
• 1:26:51
  is just Adversity? Fucking adversity? Adversity is tearing
• 1:26:55
  your knee in a hero's moment and rehabbing yourself back,
• 1:26:59
  not fucking tearing your Achilles on the side of a highway after
• 1:27:03
  you've been accused by 24 fucking people of the same fucking thing
• 1:27:06
  and you paid them all off and the NFL gave you roughly no fucking
• 1:27:09
  punishment after you signed a guaranteed contract of over $200
• 1:27:12
  fucking million, which was also the most embarrassing thing that's happened in sports
• 1:27:18
  in the last 10 years. And the fact that we are even— the fact that
• 1:27:20
  I'm even talking about this right now is fucking insane. The fact that this happened
• 1:27:24
  the same week with everything that's surrounding the fucking thing that's happening in America with
• 1:27:27
  the Cornell thing is fucking insane to me. Why? Wait, fucking insane. Just Cornell.
• 1:27:31
  Kendall Francis got fucking— they proved she got raped
• 1:27:35
  by an LSU football player. They proved it.
• 1:27:40
  The, the Title IX office said, we know you were forcibly raped
• 1:27:44
  by an NFL football player. He's going to be suspended for a year, no campus
• 1:27:48
  activities, has to be banned from campus. He appeals it. The judge says, you know
• 1:27:51
  what, you definitely did it, so you still have to be punished, but we're going
• 1:27:53
  to repeal— we're going to take away the suspension. All you have to
• 1:27:57
  do is 4 semesters of community— 4 semesters of probation and
• 1:28:01
  restored to the team. So currently there is a girl who
• 1:28:05
  the campus Title IX office admits was forcibly raped by an LSU
• 1:28:08
  player, and he is allowed to be
• 1:28:12
  on campus and on the football team. So it is not even like this
• 1:28:17
  is so tied into sports that like beyond even the Cornell thing.
• 1:28:21
  And the reality is that like we
• 1:28:26
  don't actually need to do any of this. This rehab
• 1:28:30
  situation doesn't need to happen. You could have focused on so
• 1:28:34
  many other players on that team. You could have focused on Todd Monken
• 1:28:38
  as a, as a new head coach. You could have focused on this
• 1:28:42
  revamped defense without Myles Garrett. Denzel Ward
• 1:28:46
  is a great player. All these players. And you chose
• 1:28:49
  to do this, to rehab this. And this is an owner decision.
• 1:28:53
  By the way, that $230 million guaranteed contract that he got
• 1:28:57
  was so egregious and so stupid and pissed everybody off so much that
• 1:29:01
  a bunch of other players who deserve the contract can't get it because they're
• 1:29:05
  Black quarterback. They just happen to be Black quarterbacks. Who were negotiating their contracts
• 1:29:09
  after Deshaun Watson. So Kyler Murray and Russell
• 1:29:14
  Wilson and Lamar Jackson get fucked. Don't worry, don't worry though,
• 1:29:17
  Josh Allen got his guaranteed money. He got $250 million guaranteed.
• 1:29:21
  The rest of them had to fight for it, got colluded against, lost in that
• 1:29:24
  collusion case, even though the collusion— the third party said, we know you tried to
• 1:29:28
  collude, we just can't prove that you successfully did it. That's all because of this
• 1:29:30
  motherfucker. But Tony Gonzalez, don't worry, Tony Gonzalez is
• 1:29:34
  really proud of the dude who sexually assaulted
• 1:29:39
  and harassed 27 women for finally getting
• 1:29:42
  to play 3 not-of-the-worst games we've ever seen
• 1:29:47
  in a row for $230 million. I literally want to
• 1:29:50
  fucking rip my own hair extensions out.
• 1:29:55
  If I had hair still, I'd rip it out myself. I don't know what the
• 1:29:59
  fuck and say other than fucking embarrassing Tony Gonzalez. Fucking embarrassing Tony Gonzalez.
• 1:30:02
  Fucking embarrassing Tony Gonzalez.
• 1:30:06
  I don't know how the fuck you look yourself in the mirror. Actually, I do.
• 1:30:09
  You're fucking dumber than shit. That's probably how you look yourself in the mirror.
• 1:30:12
  Fucking embarrassing. Just fucking embarrassing. The whole production was embarrassing.
• 1:30:16
  Even— I don't— poor Taylor Rooks had to do the fucking interview with him.
• 1:30:20
  Fucking— that was embarrassing. Fucking everything. And the people fucking
• 1:30:24
  tying themselves into knots trying to turn this motherfucker into a folk hero. Makes me
• 1:30:27
  fucking sick. You know who I'm proud of? I'm proud of Geno Smith,
• 1:30:31
  who's been gone team to team to team and keeps succeeding,
• 1:30:35
  keeps succeeding, keeps proving people wrong, keeps trying,
• 1:30:39
  keeps uplifting the teammates around him.
• 1:30:42
  I'm proud of Geno Smith. Me too. I'm proud of Lamar Jackson, who entered
• 1:30:45
  this league being told he shouldn't be a fucking quarterback and became a 2,
• 1:30:48
  almost 3-time MVP and is an all-time,
• 1:30:51
  already a fucking first ballot Hall of Fame level talent.
• 1:30:54
  That's who I'm proud of. I'm proud of players who come back from
• 1:30:58
  broken legs. I'm proud of Marcus Mariota. If you want
• 1:31:02
  to talk about quarterbacks that you are proud of,
• 1:31:06
  there are so many for you to talk about. Jacoby Brissett,
• 1:31:09
  who has spent his career being a backup who steps up.
• 1:31:13
  He's not the QB. He's the QB who stepped up every
• 1:31:17
  fucking time. No, no, no, no, but they didn't go through the adversity
• 1:31:21
  that Deshaun Watson went through. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:31:25
  no, no, no, he only got— all he did was get 27 credible accusations,
• 1:31:29
  pay them all off, get roughly no pay punishment at all,
• 1:31:32
  and get paid $230 million guaranteed. Yeah,
• 1:31:35
  the adversity that he's put himself through. Tony Gonzalez,
• 1:31:39
  fucking dipshit. Like, what are we even talking about
• 1:31:44
  anymore? Who we're proud of. So proud. So proud.
• 1:31:48
  Oh my God. I can't think of somebody less—
• 1:31:53
  like, all you had to do— proud. All you had to
• 1:31:56
  do was not talk about it. You're Amazon. You got the game. I'm not blaming
• 1:32:01
  you for getting the Browns game. All you had to do was
• 1:32:04
  just not center Deshaun Watson. There are—
• 1:32:08
  these are 52 men. This isn't even a fucking starting 5 in basketball. Like,
• 1:32:12
  I would understand If you got like— if this was LeBron
• 1:32:16
  James, you're like, uh-oh, there's only 5 dudes we can talk to. Yeah,
• 1:32:19
  there's a lot of guys out there. 52 other
• 1:32:22
  players and the fucking coach, and you're like,
• 1:32:25
  you know, we must sit down with Taylor. By the way, we're gonna
• 1:32:29
  take Taylor Rooks, sit her down, and make her interview
• 1:32:33
  a fucking sexual predator. Great,
• 1:32:36
  love it, we love to see it. And I'm not putting anything on Taylor Rooks.
• 1:32:39
  Maybe she wanted to do it, maybe she didn't. I'm not putting By the way,
• 1:32:42
  just for the record, Deshaun Watson, how he's handled this year, making himself out to
• 1:32:46
  be some sort of fucking victim. Just fuck all of this. Fuck all of this.
• 1:32:50
  Honestly, fuck all of this. I, I don't
• 1:32:54
  care who it is. If it's not the Ravens, I'll take the Steelers.
• 1:32:58
  I'll take the Bengals. I don't care who it is until that man is not
• 1:33:03
  playing football. I cannot, I cannot with that
• 1:33:07
  team. Those players deserve better. The fans who have never
• 1:33:10
  rooted for Deshaun Watson deserve better. And those women,
• 1:33:14
  more than anything, 27 women, the majority
• 1:33:17
  of whom are Black women. Black women,
• 1:33:21
  by the way. So this isn't— don't give me, don't give me, oh,
• 1:33:25
  you hate the Black. No, his victims were Black women.
• 1:33:29
  That's why you don't give a fuck. I could— those are
• 1:33:32
  the people who deserve to be out from underneath this piece of shit.
• 1:33:36
  I don't care if he throws for 10 touchdowns. I don't care if he does
• 1:33:39
  shit we've never seen before in my life. I want to never
• 1:33:42
  see him again. And anybody with an ounce of credibility
• 1:33:46
  in this industry— and you know what, Takoti, an ounce of talent in this industry—
• 1:33:50
  would have been able to create a broadcast that was capable of
• 1:33:53
  telling the story of the Browns without highlighting some sort of bullshit redemption story
• 1:33:57
  for Deshaun Watson. But they couldn't because they're untalented,
• 1:34:01
  uncreative, Dick-sucking losers. That's who's
• 1:34:04
  running these fucking broadcasts. No notes.
• 1:34:08
  Perfect. No notes. So guys, I'm so sorry this was such an
• 1:34:12
  intense show, but the reality is sometimes shit gets intense. Um, but we do have
• 1:34:16
  a ton of extra amazing football coming up. Uh,
• 1:34:19
  Cody and I do have a— an event that we're going to that might interrupt
• 1:34:24
  our ability to see the back end of some games. No, no,
• 1:34:27
  we're gonna watch the back end of some games. We might miss a little bit
• 1:34:30
  final game that night because we are going to an event, but we will be
• 1:34:33
  posting things about said event and we'll have some good— because we're going to look
• 1:34:36
  fucking awesome. Yeah, yeah, we're going to look real, real good. Lots of, lots of
• 1:34:40
  great stuff coming up. Thank you guys for listening to us rant.
• 1:34:43
  Sometimes we, we're going to get to this point. We did
• 1:34:47
  have a fun pop culture corner thing today, but listen,
• 1:34:51
  sometimes shit needs to be said. Turns out we have some senators we really don't
• 1:34:55
  like right now. And it turns out that we have a lot of people that
• 1:34:58
  are really cool with sexual assault. This is a perfect time to talk about,
• 1:35:01
  which brings me to Pop Culture Corner. Hey, we did it! We are at the
• 1:35:03
  point where we can start getting some paid subscriber,
• 1:35:07
  um, we can start doing paid subscriber perks.
• 1:35:11
  And I was thinking that there might be nights where, you know, maybe Pop
• 1:35:15
  Culture Corner doesn't make it in the regular show, we do it in a separate
• 1:35:18
  show. Yeah, we give a little— so like we get a little bit of that
• 1:35:20
  extra little fun. But it's like an extra segment. Are there some other things that
• 1:35:24
  we can do that like, yeah, we cut it off and then we get our
• 1:35:27
  paid guys over to kind of have fun with us in the, in the group
• 1:35:31
  chat over there? Maybe, maybe we throw Mocha a couple extra bucks.
• 1:35:34
  Finally, finally we get Mocha paid some extra bucks.
• 1:35:37
  Something in the works on that so that we, when we do have these intense
• 1:35:40
  shows, we can kind of lighten it up with, with some of the other stuff
• 1:35:42
  that we do because we are, we are Renaissance people who have so
• 1:35:46
  much talent. We could talk about anything. What can I say? And we, you know,
• 1:35:49
  we are just fucking amazing. We are beautiful and we are talented. God, we're fucking
• 1:35:52
  hot as shit too. That's the other thing. That's the other thing.
• 1:35:55
  So, um, if— and maybe if they're paid, they can see us in the hot
• 1:35:59
  tub. Uh, actually, we are talking about doing hot tub shows. We're not kidding.
• 1:36:03
  There's a hot tub right out there. We are thinking about doing a hot tub
• 1:36:05
  show. I want to see Mocha in the hot tub. Mocha, you ready for the
• 1:36:08
  hot tub show, buddy? He's not going to do it. Oh yeah. Yeah, he's in.
• 1:36:11
  We got him. Yeah, but he's not going to get on camera. We'll figure it
• 1:36:14
  out. We'll put him in a— we'll put a paper bag over I ever said.
• 1:36:16
  Well, like, Mocha— you guys aren't ready to see just how handsome Mocha is.
• 1:36:20
  No, we should put like a Michael Myers mask on. Oh, even better. Yeah,
• 1:36:23
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• 1:36:57
  over to Threads more. I, I know I gotta get— we have reasons. We have
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  reasons. So I'm gonna be doing a lot more shit on Threads. She's already crushing
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  on Threads. And I can't stress enough, like, share, and subscribe. And thank you for
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  joining the fucking pirate ship Thank you for joining the pirate ship. We love you
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  guys. Thank you for letting us absolutely crush into
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  like all of these topics with a lot of intensity. We hope we didn't scare
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  you off. But let's be honest, we never end
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  without a lot of intensity. And it is baseball season and
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  the Red Sox are out. So for me, I have no problem saying
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  right now that regardless of what Curt Schilling did in 2004
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  with his very bloody sock, It's fuck Kurt Schilling. Fuck Kurt