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#1689 The Late Bloomer - Harps · The You Project

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Speaker 1: Groovers. Welcome to another installment. It's your favorite podcast and mine,
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Speaker 1: you project Melissa, Good morning. How are you? Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty good at Sunday. I'm up and about, you know,
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Speaker 1: doing what I can. Just keep it real. That was
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Speaker 1: very presumptuous of me to assume that this is anyone's
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Speaker 1: favorite podcast. I should have just gone with everyone. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to a podcast doesn't really have the same kind of
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Speaker 1: captivating it, does it. Welcome to another one of the
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Speaker 1: one point nine million podcasts on the planet vying for
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Speaker 1: your attention that you project er. How are you feeling?
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Speaker 1: I'm good? Thank you. Now, I'm not going to throw
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Speaker 1: you under the bus. I'm not going to go the
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Speaker 1: whole hog, but I'm just going to say to the
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Speaker 1: masses you haven't been your most optimal lately. We're not
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Speaker 1: going to open the door too wide, but you've been
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Speaker 1: a bit crooked. But you're coming good. I am coming good.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, I'm good. Yeah. Do you need a group
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Speaker 1: hug from the typ faithful?
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Speaker 2: That's lovely, thank you.
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Speaker 1: If you could all send flowers, roses and small cash donations.
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Speaker 1: What's the address again, you idiot? All large case donations, no,
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Speaker 1: no pressure, but you know it would help just gaging.
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Speaker 1: So let's jump into it. Let's not do a ten
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Speaker 1: minute preamble as is often the way. You know what
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Speaker 1: the other day we've been getting. Oh, here I go
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Speaker 1: doing a pre amble. Fuck, can't help myself? Feel free
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Speaker 1: to fast forward through this bit? No really? So the
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Speaker 1: what's that episode four twenty two Becoming ungive Upable? Well,
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Speaker 1: today is Sunday as we record this, and that went up,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know last Sunday maybe, and today we've
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Speaker 1: got Mark randolph On who was an absolute straight up killer.
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Speaker 1: I love that episode. Killer means good thing in this jargon.
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Speaker 1: And you know when you meet someone, even you know
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Speaker 1: via the interwebs, but you're face to face with somebody
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Speaker 1: in an electronic sense or a cyber sense, and you think, ah,
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Speaker 1: you know, this guy's high profile, he's done some amazing stuff.
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Speaker 1: He started Netflix. I hope he's not a dick. Now,
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Speaker 1: other people don't think that, but that's what I think.
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Speaker 1: I think, because you know, like, I've met some pretty
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Speaker 1: high profile, famous people who are doing well, and some
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Speaker 1: of them are terrific, but some of them nah, like nah,
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Speaker 1: you just stayed yourself, champ or Champete and but he
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Speaker 1: was a ripper. I so loved his energy, and I
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Speaker 1: so loved how normal and practical and you know generous
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Speaker 1: he was with his knowledge and his time and his energy.
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Speaker 1: And it's bloody amazing to meet people who This sounds wrong,
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Speaker 1: but you know you think, oh, look, if he was
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Speaker 1: a bit up himself, I would kind of get it. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And he's talking to some shitkicker in Australia that he's
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Speaker 1: never going to meet or see you again. And you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not like we're the Joe Rogan experience and we're
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Speaker 1: going to change the trajectory of his life. But we
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Speaker 1: do have a pretty big audience now, which is good.
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Speaker 1: But I just love the fact that, you know, here's
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Speaker 1: this dude who's done some and not just Netflix, but
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Speaker 1: lots of other things, and lots of charity stuff and
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Speaker 1: you know, doing lots of good for humanity around the
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Speaker 1: world and comes on and is very generous and very present.
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Speaker 1: And you know what else. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: noticed this about him, but he he'd done a bit
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Speaker 1: of research on really yes, because halfway through the show
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Speaker 1: I said something like, you know, I haven't heard it yet. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
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Speaker 1: my bad. So anyway, sorry, I have multiple producers. Well
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Speaker 1: let's be honest, I have to, but I forget who
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Speaker 1: produces her. But anyway, half through the thing, and I
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Speaker 1: hadn't given him any background. We were just talking and
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Speaker 1: I said, well, maybe I can't remember what I said,
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Speaker 1: but I gave him some theory on something and he goes,
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Speaker 1: so says the PhD candidate, right, And I'm like, what
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Speaker 1: does he know that? So he's clearly done a bit
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Speaker 1: of background stuff, and I thought, how interesting is it
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Speaker 1: even at someone at that level who probably does a
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Speaker 1: million interviews and podcasts, and he's still prepped and he's
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Speaker 1: still ready to go, and he's still informed. And it's
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Speaker 1: like we spoke to him for I can't remember what
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Speaker 1: it was, but like fifty minutes or so, and he
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Speaker 1: was just very present. And I love talking to people,
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Speaker 1: and they don't have to be founders of Netflix. They
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Speaker 1: can be anyone anywhere, but just I love talking to interesting,
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Speaker 1: fascinating people who who won have done some good stuff,
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Speaker 1: but to want to help other people do some good stuff.
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Speaker 1: So that was good. But also what I was going
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Speaker 1: to say was last week listening to because everyone's going, oh,
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Speaker 1: I love that. Like. We got so much feedback on
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Speaker 1: four twenty two, which for me was just it was
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Speaker 1: almost like just an add on episode where I went,
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about this thing at some stage,
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Speaker 1: you know, essentially being ungive upable, which is, you know,
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Speaker 1: not that not that anyone's really ungive uppable, as in
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Speaker 1: we're never ever ever going to stop anything, or we're
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Speaker 1: always going to persevere with every but you know, becoming
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Speaker 1: more resilient and more capable and becoming the person who
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Speaker 1: finishes stuff rather than throwing it in. You know. It
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Speaker 1: was around that, But I thought I might have a listen,
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Speaker 1: because you know, I've rarely listened to what we do
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Speaker 1: because I heard it already. I was there, and I
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Speaker 1: hate listening to my home bullshit. But I went, I'll
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Speaker 1: have a listener and I'll see what we must have
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Speaker 1: got fifty to one hundred comments from people saying that
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Speaker 1: was the best podcast I've ever heard, Mike, really, I
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Speaker 1: couldn't even remember. And anyway, so I jumped in you
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Speaker 1: and I spoke for fucking twelve minutes about nothing, of course,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like even I was getting sick of me
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Speaker 1: and you, I'm like, hurry the fuck up.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're currently I don't know, six or seven minutes
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Speaker 2: in speaking about nothing.
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Speaker 1: Oh big sip of water, excuse me, everyone, I just
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Speaker 1: said to well, I said to everyone. Feel free to
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Speaker 1: fast forward through it, all right. So he was, in
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Speaker 1: some ways a very small catalyst or a part of
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Speaker 1: the catalyst for this conversation that I want to have
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Speaker 1: today and I want to talk about, Well, the title
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Speaker 1: is the late Bloomer, but I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: stepping into new opportunities or creating new opportunities, or changing
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Speaker 1: perhaps the direction of our career or our thinking, or
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Speaker 1: our lifestyle or our behavior or our reality whatever that
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Speaker 1: means when we're not sixteen or twenty or twenty two,
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Speaker 1: but maybe thirty or thirty five or forty or maybe
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Speaker 1: sixty or seventy, right, And it doesn't necessarily mean throwing
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Speaker 1: out everything we do or everything we've been doing. But
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Speaker 1: maybe it means hitting the pause button, no matter what
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Speaker 1: our age is, and reassessing and starting to question the
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Speaker 1: stories that we tell ourselves about what we can do
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Speaker 1: or what's possible or what's likely or what's appropriate for
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Speaker 1: me at my age. And I'm not saying this because
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Speaker 1: I'm in my fifties. I'm saying this because I've always
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Speaker 1: thought this, and I've always been intrigued by the way
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Speaker 1: that you know, when I was twenty, I was fascinated
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Speaker 1: that I would meet fifty and sixty year olds who
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Speaker 1: were not that different to me, like keen and excited
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Speaker 1: and enthusiastic, and young in their thinking and young in
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Speaker 1: their behavior and learning stuff and doing stuff and being
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Speaker 1: adventurous and taking chances. And they were thirty years older
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Speaker 1: than me. And then I would meet people who were forty,
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Speaker 1: who were like fucking eighty, who were stuck in their ways,
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Speaker 1: who were living in a time warp, who were in
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Speaker 1: this permanent holding pattern of thinking and behavior, behavior and
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Speaker 1: misery and outcome, and then basically you know, telling themselves
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Speaker 1: they've fucking missed the boat. Yeah, I'm like what, and
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Speaker 1: just waiting for retirement. Yeah, just sliding into my twilight
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Speaker 1: years and just surviving my career so then I can
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Speaker 1: be happy when I'm sixty five. Fuck, what a terrible plan.
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Speaker 1: And if they were doing something that was monotonous but
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Speaker 1: gave them joy, then keep going. And we're not talking
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Speaker 1: about what is a good job or what is a
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Speaker 1: bad job, or what is a good existence or a
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Speaker 1: bad existence, or what is a good diet or bad diet,
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Speaker 1: or good relationship or bad relationship. We're not talking about
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Speaker 1: that from a generic, global, universal point of view. We're
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Speaker 1: talking about for you, the individual listener, what works for you.
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Speaker 1: Because if you're working in a factory putting labels on cans,
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Speaker 1: no disrespect that all to anyone who works in a factory,
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Speaker 1: but you fucking love it and you love that you
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Speaker 1: start at seven and finish at three, and from three
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Speaker 1: on a Friday to seven on a Monday, the world
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Speaker 1: is yours and it pays pretty well and it ticks
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Speaker 1: the box, then that's what you should do because it's
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Speaker 1: meeting your needs on a multitude of levels. Conversely, if
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Speaker 1: you're earning a million bucks a year or two million
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Speaker 1: bucks a year doing this high profile thing, that looks
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Speaker 1: to be amazing, and you seem to be successful from
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Speaker 1: the outside looking in, but the byproduct of what you
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Speaker 1: do is for the most part physical, mental emotional turmoil
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Speaker 1: and stress, and when people aren't looking your experience is
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Speaker 1: not one of success or happiness or joy, rather anxiety
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Speaker 1: and depression and mental fatigue and exhaustion. Then maybe that
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Speaker 1: job is not the right job for you, and maybe
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Speaker 1: there's time to change. And so I feel like, through
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Speaker 1: the countless conversations that I've had over the years, that
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Speaker 1: some people settle and some people talk themselves out of
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Speaker 1: the potential for more. And it's not about their potential. Actually,
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Speaker 1: it's about their story about their potential. And it's not
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Speaker 1: about their age. It's about their story about their age.
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Speaker 1: And I always wonder what. I wonder what life would
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Speaker 1: be like, and I wonder what people would be like,
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Speaker 1: and I wonder what relationships would be like. And imagine
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Speaker 1: a world where no ages were kept, Melissa, Imagine going
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Speaker 1: for an interview and they had no idea how old
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Speaker 1: you were even looking at you, right, Because what we
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Speaker 1: do is in our culture, automatically we look at somebody.
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Speaker 1: I do it too. I'm not saying this is a
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this is a human thing exactly, and we
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Speaker 1: might not judge them critically, but we look at people
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Speaker 1: and go, oh, so we make certain assumptions because well,
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Speaker 1: this lady or this dude is sixty ish, or this
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Speaker 1: lady or this dude is twenty ish. It's different, and
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Speaker 1: we immediately we all do it. But I don't know
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Speaker 1: that it actually is a good thing, because more often
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Speaker 1: than not, I think we're assuming things which are either
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Speaker 1: completely untrue or somewhat untrue, rather than going, let me
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Speaker 1: just get to know the person. Not let me get
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Speaker 1: to know the person who is sixty, or let me
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Speaker 1: know the person who is seventy or twenty, but let
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Speaker 1: me just know the person. Because one of the problems
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Speaker 1: or challenges for us is we do live in a
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Speaker 1: culture and are a mindset and a society, especially in
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Speaker 1: First world countries, which is very ageist. Yes we are.
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Speaker 1: You know, we are evaluated and judged and labeled, and
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Speaker 1: not just sociologically in groups and person to person and
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Speaker 1: out on the street, but by the government and by
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Speaker 1: media and social media. We are judged and evaluated and
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Speaker 1: labeled based on our age. Now for some things that works,
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Speaker 1: like for example, okay, you are this age, you get
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Speaker 1: a pension, or you get access to these medical resources.
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Speaker 1: I get that because obviously there is a practical element
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Speaker 1: to aging, which is biology, and things happen. And we're
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Speaker 1: not pretending that people don't get old, or I'm not
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Speaker 1: pretending that people don't get old, and I'm not pretending
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Speaker 1: that age isn't thing but I don't really want to
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Speaker 1: focus on the biology of aging, although will talk about
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Speaker 1: it a bit, But I want to talk about the
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Speaker 1: psychology of aging, and I want to talk about the
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Speaker 1: psychology of behavior at certain ages based on thinking. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, when I was thirty six, I went to
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Speaker 1: university for the first time, never been to university, never
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Speaker 1: did anything post year twelve of any significance anyway, And
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Speaker 1: I remember, it's funny and I look back now at
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Speaker 1: me at thirty six, and I realized how young I was.
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Speaker 1: But I also realized, at thirty six, in an environment
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Speaker 1: of eighteen year olds, how old I was. And it's
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Speaker 1: so funny over the course of twenty years that, of
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Speaker 1: course I was the same dude, it was me, But
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Speaker 1: me then was feeling super old because in the contrast
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Speaker 1: of the group that I was in the students, I
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Speaker 1: were with the people that I was eating lunch with
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Speaker 1: my friends who got their pea plates, I was like
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Speaker 1: their fucking dad. I was like the old group mascot.
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Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, many of them telling me
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Speaker 1: as I often get in the second half of the
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Speaker 1: first year, we were all fucking terrified of you. In
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Speaker 1: the first semester and I'm like why, and they're like,
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Speaker 1: because you're a big scary dad. I'm like, but I
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Speaker 1: just wanted to be another one of you, you know.
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Speaker 1: But it was funny. But then, and I even look,
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Speaker 1: to be honest, I didn't get a whole lot of
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Speaker 1: pushback or flack white people going to UNI. It was
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Speaker 1: mainly positive. But it's funny. In our culture there are
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Speaker 1: look and it is changing, which is good, but it's
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Speaker 1: not changing fast enough. I actually think for many people,
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Speaker 1: the best time to go to university. I'm not talking
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Speaker 1: about all people, but I think for a reasonable percentage
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Speaker 1: of university the best time. To a reasonable percentage of people,
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Speaker 1: I think the the best time to go to university
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Speaker 1: is post thirty because you're different. I don't think for everyone,
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Speaker 1: by the way, but I know when I was eighteen,
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Speaker 1: if I had to go and choose a tertiary course
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Speaker 1: and immerse myself in an undergrad degree for three or
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Speaker 1: four years, I would have literally just been fucking throwing
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Speaker 1: darts out of board and going, let's see what the
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Speaker 1: dart lay. Okay, I'm going to be an engineer, alrighty,
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Speaker 1: then off I go engineering for me? Look out, bridges
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Speaker 1: of the world, here I come fucking hell, you know,
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Speaker 1: But I was a fucking idiot till I was thirty five.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what I mean. I kind of knew
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Speaker 1: I wanted to list shit and work in gyms, but
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Speaker 1: clearly no one's going to make any money out of that, right.
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Speaker 1: But then as it turned out, I did it when
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Speaker 1: all right. I mean, I didn't become rich, but I
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Speaker 1: had some gyms, I had some staff. It worked out
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Speaker 1: all right. But for me, I was essentially figuring it
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Speaker 1: out as I went. But I think another thing to
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Speaker 1: think about this stuff is that not for everyone, but
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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, what we're doing, and it
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Speaker 1: could be a relationship. It could be owning a business,
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Speaker 1: It could be having a career in a particular profession
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Speaker 1: or industry. It could even be the way that we
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Speaker 1: train our body. Or it could even be, which seems controversial,
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Speaker 1: the way that we eat. But a lot of things
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Speaker 1: have a used by date. And what might blow your
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Speaker 1: socks off and make you happy and fulfilled and excited
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Speaker 1: when you're twenty to thirty might be completely different or
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Speaker 1: might not be the same. When you're thirty to forty
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Speaker 1: might be different again, forty to fifty or choose any
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Speaker 1: age bracket. I know that for me, the idea of
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Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing now would have held zero appeal
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Speaker 1: in my twenties. You know, for me to go and
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Speaker 1: research psychology at a deep level in the human experience
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Speaker 1: and sit in a fucking cubicle and talk to the
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Speaker 1: world about the meaning of life, I would have gone,
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Speaker 1: fuck off, give me some chicken and a dumbell your fuck,
16:56
Speaker 1: we'd get out of my way, right because I just
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Speaker 1: you know, I was interested, but I wasn't where I
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Speaker 1: am now, not better or worse, just at a different
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Speaker 1: state of my journey. And just like back then, I
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Speaker 1: was so fascinated with lifting heavy shit and how muscles worked,
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Speaker 1: and adaptation and physiology and fucking looking like a freak
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Speaker 1: and training athletes and high performance and a physical level
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Speaker 1: and getting people to run fast and jump high and
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Speaker 1: hit hard and be like ultimate warriors in their sport.
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Speaker 1: I loved that and I still find it fascinating. But
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Speaker 1: it's not where my attention or my focus or my
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Speaker 1: passion is. So I think that you know this notion
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Speaker 1: that we need to find out what we want to
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Speaker 1: do when we're young, and then that's your calling Brian,
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Speaker 1: that's you for the next thirty years. Or that's you, Gail.
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Speaker 1: There you go, Love, You're going to be a nurse
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Speaker 1: until you're dead, or a surgeon til you're dead or whatever,
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Speaker 1: or a fucking an astronaut or who cares a barista,
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, right, But it's realizing that, you know, we will,
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Speaker 1: like flowers, bloom every year, us late bloomers, we might
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Speaker 1: rebloom every five or ten years into a different flower.
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Speaker 1: The fucking hell I like that? Yeah, right, where we
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Speaker 1: just go? So this is what I do now. Now
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Speaker 1: I'm a speaker. Now I'm a coach. Now I'm a
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Speaker 1: personal trainer. Now I'm a classroom teacher. Now. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've had several ladies contact us in the last year
18:30
Speaker 1: or two who have gone back to nursing, to have
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Speaker 1: gone to study nursing in their early fifties and have
18:39
Speaker 1: finished and qualified. Mandy that used to work for me,
18:41
Speaker 1: Mandy Bolden who Mandy went and did nursing in her
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Speaker 1: late forties, mid to late forties. She's now a nurse,
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Speaker 1: but she didn't start nursing till she was nearly half
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Speaker 1: a century old. She's great at it, and you know,
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. There's it's this kind of mindset around
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Speaker 1: what we should or what we shouldn't do based on
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Speaker 1: how old we are, and it's you know, of course
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Speaker 1: we're going to age, of course, but I believe that
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Speaker 1: a huge amount of how we age is dependent on choices, behavior, choices,
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Speaker 1: behavior and mindset. So you know, I fully believe that.
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Speaker 1: And I don't mean this sound on any level arrogant
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Speaker 1: or egotistical, because I am the most mediocre person. I know.
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Speaker 1: I'm not naturally gifted at anything. I'm not genetically gifted,
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Speaker 1: I'm not intellectually gifted. I'm not athletically gifted. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: look up, fucking mediocre. You'll see a snapshot of me
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Speaker 1: grinning like a stupid motherfucker back off the screen, right.
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Speaker 1: That is me. But I know that my brain and
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Speaker 1: my body and my health and my energy and my
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Speaker 1: mindset and my habits and my behaviors and my lifestyle,
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Speaker 1: and I think is not typical for my age. I
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Speaker 1: know that, and I know that because I talk to
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Speaker 1: lots of people my age, and I see lots of
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Speaker 1: people my age, and there's no judgment, there's awareness. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying better or worse. But what I am
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Speaker 1: saying is if I said to you, Okay, whatever age
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Speaker 1: you are now, would you like to have the physical, mental,
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Speaker 1: and emotional energy of somebody ten or fifteen or twenty
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Speaker 1: years Yes, younger. Everybody would say yes, because who the
20:30
Speaker 1: fuck doesn't want to feel function better than they currently do.
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Speaker 1: So I know that my brain doesn't work like a
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Speaker 1: typical fifty seven year old because I don't drink, I
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Speaker 1: don't smoke, I don't ad shit. I sleep great. You
20:43
Speaker 1: know how many hours I slept last night? By the way,
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Speaker 1: unlessa I'm going to guess ten, yeah, ten and a half.
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Speaker 1: Fucking my cells. My cells were giving me a round
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Speaker 1: of applause. They're like, you fucking rock right. And what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying is that the way that we age and
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Speaker 1: the rate at which we age is controllable and manipulatable
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Speaker 1: to a point. Of course, there is a genetic element
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Speaker 1: and an unavoidable element to physiological aging. Of course, nobody's
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Speaker 1: going to live forever. But we've all met seventy year
21:22
Speaker 1: olds that are young, and we've all met forty five
21:24
Speaker 1: year olds that are old, and so for me, it's
21:31
Speaker 1: exciting to talk to people like doctor Ingrid who became
21:36
Speaker 1: a nun. She did five years as a nun. Then
21:39
Speaker 1: she became a doctor. Then she became a coroner, a
21:43
Speaker 1: medical doctor. Then she became a coroner doing autopsies. I
21:46
Speaker 1: think she did like seven thousand autopsies. Then she went
21:50
Speaker 1: back to study in her thirties to become a psychiatrist,
21:54
Speaker 1: so another five or six years of study on top
21:57
Speaker 1: of I don't know, ten years of previous. Then she
22:01
Speaker 1: became a psychiatrist. Then she figured out how to be
22:05
Speaker 1: a single mum with three kids and emigrate to Australia
22:08
Speaker 1: and figured out how to do. Then she figured out
22:10
Speaker 1: how to become a leading psychiatrist in her field in
22:13
Speaker 1: Australia and navigate this new country and this new system
22:17
Speaker 1: and this new culture while being a single mum like
22:20
Speaker 1: fucking amazing. And then in her mid sixties she's now
22:24
Speaker 1: seventy three. Then in her mid sixties she goes, I
22:28
Speaker 1: think I'm going to start to do strength training and
22:30
Speaker 1: not just strength training, heavy strength training, and I think
22:33
Speaker 1: I'm going to start to run. And so she's now
22:36
Speaker 1: run a marathon and continues to run multiple regular half
22:41
Speaker 1: marathons in her seventy three year old body that doesn't
22:44
Speaker 1: look all function like a seventy three year old body,
22:47
Speaker 1: because her behavior makes it so and her thinking makes
22:52
Speaker 1: it so. And so she I think she told us.
22:57
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive she told us to her biological age
23:01
Speaker 1: was late thirties. Do you remember, I think that was
23:03
Speaker 1: the case. Even let's go rock bottom, you know, forty,
23:12
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm pretty sure. So give 'll take
23:14
Speaker 1: a quarter of a century younger. What does that mean?
23:16
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that if we're going by the calendar,
23:19
Speaker 1: of course she's seventy three. But we know that the
23:21
Speaker 1: calendar doesn't need to dictate the way that a person feels, functions, thinks,
23:25
Speaker 1: or behaves. And so her body from a fitness and
23:31
Speaker 1: strength and function and aerobic and muscular endurance and strength
23:35
Speaker 1: and power and speed and reaction time and all of
23:37
Speaker 1: these measurables, her body is closer to a forty year
23:40
Speaker 1: old than a seventy three year old. That's all it means.
23:44
Speaker 1: And why is it because she's a genetic freak? She
23:46
Speaker 1: said herself, No, she doesn't have great genetics. But why
23:49
Speaker 1: it is is because she's decided what's going to be
23:52
Speaker 1: her default setting in terms of lifestyle and behaviors and
23:56
Speaker 1: habits and all of those things. And some people would
23:59
Speaker 1: say she a late bloomer. Maybe she is, But isn't
24:04
Speaker 1: it good that in your mid sixties and in your
24:06
Speaker 1: seventies you can be doing things which are unconventional and
24:10
Speaker 1: atypical that produce an amazing result. I think that, you know,
24:16
Speaker 1: we growing up feel free to interrupting with list. So
24:19
Speaker 1: I feel that growing up we kind of get told
24:24
Speaker 1: either directly or indirectly, consciously or unconsciously, overtly or subliminally.
24:30
Speaker 1: You like how I use all of those things to
24:32
Speaker 1: do what's expected, you know, kind of do what's expected
24:36
Speaker 1: career wise and lifestyle wise and relationship wise and habits
24:40
Speaker 1: and behaviors. And I've told this story once before, but
24:44
Speaker 1: this little moment in time I had that was about
24:47
Speaker 1: three or four minute encounter. I haven't seen this guy since,
24:51
Speaker 1: but a few years ago. I was out in the
24:53
Speaker 1: front of my house, just fucking around with my gates
24:55
Speaker 1: at the end of my driveway, and I saw this
24:58
Speaker 1: dude coming from my street. I was going to say
25:04
Speaker 1: south road in people like, where's that? But anyway, heading
25:07
Speaker 1: down from what you know to be south road towards
25:09
Speaker 1: my place, and on a skateboard, on what they call
25:14
Speaker 1: a long board, and he had long hair, and he
25:18
Speaker 1: had on a flannel shirt and he had on jeans
25:21
Speaker 1: and sneakers, and I just thought it was a twenty
25:24
Speaker 1: year old just out just fucking cruising suburbia and he
25:27
Speaker 1: was kind of hammering yeah, and it was. And anyway,
25:30
Speaker 1: he got he got to the corner just near my house,
25:34
Speaker 1: which is on a corner, and he had to stop,
25:36
Speaker 1: pick up his board and walk around a car and
25:38
Speaker 1: then literally we kind of intersected, and I went and
25:43
Speaker 1: he was about sixty five, right, really yep yep, yep, yeap,
25:47
Speaker 1: And he moved like I'm used to watching bodies move.
25:51
Speaker 1: I know what most sixty five year old bodies move like.
25:55
Speaker 1: And I just grabbed. I go, I said, can I
26:01
Speaker 1: can I talk to you seck? He goes yeah, sure,
26:03
Speaker 1: I go, can I be really rude? If it was
26:06
Speaker 1: a lady, I wouldn't have asked, but I feel like
26:07
Speaker 1: with a dude, you can get away with it. I go,
26:10
Speaker 1: can I ask you how old you are? And he
26:11
Speaker 1: goes sixty five. I go, you're a fucking weapon and
26:15
Speaker 1: he laughs, he goes, yeah, I get that. I go,
26:20
Speaker 1: how long have you been skateboarding? He goes fifty five years,
26:27
Speaker 1: and I go, so, it's not like you used to
26:30
Speaker 1: skate and you gave it up and you came back.
26:32
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I never stopped. I never stopped. And
26:36
Speaker 1: he was an executive and he'd finished and he was
26:39
Speaker 1: doing new stuff. I didn't go into it too deep.
26:43
Speaker 1: But what I loved was, here's this guy out his energy.
26:46
Speaker 1: Like I looked at this dude. He had gray hair,
26:48
Speaker 1: half gray black hair, halfway down his back. He gave
26:51
Speaker 1: no fucks about what people thought. But he was a
26:54
Speaker 1: nice person. He didn't care if it wasn't. He wasn't
26:57
Speaker 1: skating down the street going oh, I wonder what people
27:00
Speaker 1: think of me. He wasn't going shit. I don't know
27:03
Speaker 1: if skateboarding is age appropriate activity for me. Maybe I
27:07
Speaker 1: should check with the vic GUV website recommendations for sixty
27:11
Speaker 1: five year olds, because fuck, I hope this is I
27:14
Speaker 1: don't know if this is on the band list. He
27:17
Speaker 1: gave no facts, right, And the fact was he moved
27:23
Speaker 1: like a thirty year old, and you know, he was
27:26
Speaker 1: just so good. He'd been doing it so long that
27:28
Speaker 1: he just didn't fall off. It was like that was.
27:31
Speaker 1: It was just like he and the board moved as
27:34
Speaker 1: one and he kind of skated off into the distance,
27:37
Speaker 1: and that like one. He was cool and I loved
27:40
Speaker 1: meeting with him, But I also thought, I also thought,
27:44
Speaker 1: why was I so surprised? Like, well, he's a human,
27:48
Speaker 1: he's skateboarding. What's the surprise? And the surprise is you
27:53
Speaker 1: never see that exactly, because like, could you imagine rocking
27:58
Speaker 1: up to someone's birth a sixty year old someone, and
28:02
Speaker 1: you buy him a skateboard? Everyone would be like, what
28:05
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing? I bought him a skateboard
28:08
Speaker 1: for his birthday?
28:10
Speaker 2: What four?
28:12
Speaker 1: So he can go skate Everyone would think you were
28:15
Speaker 1: a moron, right, but I guarantee you given the right
28:20
Speaker 1: setting and of course pads and all that. You know.
28:24
Speaker 1: You know my favorite saying that I've said a thousand times,
28:30
Speaker 1: We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow
28:33
Speaker 1: old because we stop playing. Right. It's so true And
28:39
Speaker 1: I remember many times as a kind of an echo
28:42
Speaker 1: of the story I just told I would I when
28:46
Speaker 1: I was a trainer, my second one to my second gym,
28:51
Speaker 1: the one anyway, you know where Dandy Park in Brighton
28:55
Speaker 1: is so Dandy Park's a massive park. It must be
28:59
Speaker 1: luck three k's around that park, four k's. I know
29:03
Speaker 1: what it is. It's fairly big. And my second gym
29:07
Speaker 1: was two hundred meters from there. And I remember one
29:12
Speaker 1: night I used to train these three dudes together. They're
29:14
Speaker 1: in their fifties and they were like early fifties, fifty
29:17
Speaker 1: one to two three at that stage. Train them in
29:19
Speaker 1: the gym. And one night it was a summer night
29:22
Speaker 1: and it was warm. There was fair few people in
29:26
Speaker 1: the gym, so I grabbed a footy in a frisbee
29:28
Speaker 1: and I said, boys, we're going to go to the park.
29:30
Speaker 1: And they're like, what, I go, We're going to go
29:32
Speaker 1: the park. So we job jogged to the park. So
29:35
Speaker 1: I've got these three fifty something blokes and we've left
29:40
Speaker 1: the treadmills, We've left the fancy bikes and the steppers
29:42
Speaker 1: and the grinders and the elliptical striders and the fucking
29:45
Speaker 1: fancy pinloaded machine and now we're standing on grass with
29:50
Speaker 1: a footy worth ten bucks and a frisbee and these maniacs. Right.
29:58
Speaker 1: I was up one end with the the other with
30:00
Speaker 1: one bloke, and the other two boys were up the
30:03
Speaker 1: And I say boys because they're fucking boys at this stage.
30:06
Speaker 1: And we were doing kick to kick footy, so kicking
30:09
Speaker 1: the footy, mark and the footy depending on where you live,
30:11
Speaker 1: catching the footy that's called we call it marking in
30:14
Speaker 1: Australian rules, catching, kicking, catching, kicking, taking hangars and speckis
30:19
Speaker 1: on each other, calling out, leading bloody, doing different drills,
30:24
Speaker 1: handball drills, kicking drills, running around. Then we played a
30:28
Speaker 1: kind of a game that I used to play with
30:31
Speaker 1: them with the frisbee and they spent the best part
30:36
Speaker 1: of an hour running around like forteen year olds. Now
30:39
Speaker 1: I've been training these guys for a couple of years
30:42
Speaker 1: at this stage, and they all came up to me
30:44
Speaker 1: and said in unison, that was the best session we
30:47
Speaker 1: have ever had. Now I'm the exercise scientist. I've been
30:53
Speaker 1: training them like precision training on the expensive equipment that
30:58
Speaker 1: I bought, and you know, ticking all of these physiological
31:02
Speaker 1: boxes that I need to tick to make sure that
31:05
Speaker 1: we're addressing or you know, fuck all that shit. Run
31:07
Speaker 1: around and be a child and kick a footy and
31:11
Speaker 1: throw a frisbee and forget the fact that you're fifty
31:14
Speaker 1: five or fifty three or whatever. You are and have
31:17
Speaker 1: some fun. And the interesting thing was, I would say
31:19
Speaker 1: all of them ran over five kilometers, maybe over six
31:22
Speaker 1: kilometers right now. If I said to them, we're running
31:25
Speaker 1: five or six k's, they'd all tell me to get fucked.
31:29
Speaker 1: If I said, and not only that one, they wouldn't
31:34
Speaker 1: do it. They'd rebel or if I mean, if I,
31:36
Speaker 1: if I, if I turned on Nasty Craig, then do it.
31:39
Speaker 1: But I don't need to do that reluctantly. But I wouldn't.
31:42
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't make them do it because why they'd
31:44
Speaker 1: fucking hate it. And I don't want to make people
31:46
Speaker 1: do things that they hate. But it's actually called cognitive
31:50
Speaker 1: dissociation when you do something. But like so, what they're
31:54
Speaker 1: doing is running and expending energy and moving their body
31:58
Speaker 1: in a rather intense way. But what they're actually doing
32:01
Speaker 1: is playing games. What they're actually doing is reliving their childhood.
32:05
Speaker 1: What they're actually doing is having fun with their mates.
32:07
Speaker 1: What they're actually doing is fucking around than just being
32:11
Speaker 1: in the moment right now, who's going to prescribe kicking
32:16
Speaker 1: a footy at Dendy Park. No one. But that's exactly
32:21
Speaker 1: what we need to do sometimes. What we need to
32:25
Speaker 1: do is stop behaving our age. What we need to
32:28
Speaker 1: do is stop telling ourselves self limiting stories about our age.
32:34
Speaker 1: So back to me at UNI, thirty six, oldest person
32:39
Speaker 1: in the course by far, literally twice everyone else's age
32:42
Speaker 1: on average, because nearly everyone was eighteen. There were a
32:44
Speaker 1: few older people, but the oldest person in exercise science
32:49
Speaker 1: in the first year exercise Science when I did it,
32:51
Speaker 1: there was only about ninety people in the course. The
32:55
Speaker 1: oldest person other than me was I think twenty seven,
32:58
Speaker 1: twenty eight or twenty seven. And then obviously I don't know,
33:05
Speaker 1: heading towards eighteen months ago. Now I went back to
33:07
Speaker 1: UNI for the second time, literally twenty years later. First
33:10
Speaker 1: time thirty six, second time fifty six doing a PhD.
33:14
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to recommend anyone's start a PhD at fifty six.
33:18
Speaker 1: That's a stupid idea. And by the way, Craig, why
33:21
Speaker 1: are you doing it? You don't need to. You've done well,
33:23
Speaker 1: you're successful, you've made a few bucks, you're doing all right,
33:26
Speaker 1: it's all right. What do you do? You know? But
33:31
Speaker 1: if I wasn't fifty six, people wouldn't be saying that. Yes,
33:35
Speaker 1: if I was thirty nine and I just finished my
33:37
Speaker 1: first degree. People would be going, well, that's a natural progression, Craig,
33:41
Speaker 1: well done, because you just did your undergrad you're doing
33:43
Speaker 1: this and now you've stepped up to that and dah
33:45
Speaker 1: da dah. But at fifty six, most people's curiosity is
33:49
Speaker 1: not around why am I doing a PhD in europsychology?
33:54
Speaker 1: Or their main fascination is not tell me about your
33:58
Speaker 1: research to their main fascination is why are you doing it?
34:02
Speaker 1: And what they really mean is why the fuck are
34:05
Speaker 1: you doing it? You'll be sixty when you finish, like
34:08
Speaker 1: what four? And I go why not? And no one
34:14
Speaker 1: wants to go because you're fifty six. But that's kind
34:16
Speaker 1: of what they're thinking. And this is one of the
34:19
Speaker 1: stories we tell ourselves, is we go, well, yeah, but
34:23
Speaker 1: you've done, you know, Like, imagine if fifty or forty five,
34:28
Speaker 1: Imagine if that's the time for some people anyway at
34:32
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Imagine if forty five is where you
34:35
Speaker 1: start to fucking hit your straps as it possible one
34:39
Speaker 1: hundred percent. What if forty five is the time where
34:44
Speaker 1: you start to really or thirty five or forty or
34:47
Speaker 1: fifty five or whatever is the time where you really
34:50
Speaker 1: start to open the door on the exciting shit and
34:54
Speaker 1: learning and growing. I know one hundred percent, no, so
35:00
Speaker 1: that my brain works better now than when I was
35:02
Speaker 1: in my twenties. Yeah, and that's not meant to happen.
35:06
Speaker 1: Like my ability to do lots of shit, to be productive,
35:10
Speaker 1: to be present, to focus, to study, to produce good outcomes,
35:15
Speaker 1: to maintain my physical, mental, emotional an academic from one
35:22
Speaker 1: of a better word energy, it's better than it's ever been.
35:26
Speaker 1: But that's it's not better ever than it's ever been
35:28
Speaker 1: because that was predetermined because I'm doing the work.
35:32
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was going to say. It didn't
35:34
Speaker 2: just happen that way. It's because you've worked on it.
35:36
Speaker 2: You've made that kind of happen, you've been conscious of it,
35:40
Speaker 2: and you've taken active steps to make sure that you're
35:42
Speaker 2: in that place.
35:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and look, I think I think that you
35:48
Speaker 1: know the reality is that we do live in an
35:50
Speaker 1: ageis paradigm most of us where you know, if you
35:55
Speaker 1: if you've got certain skills and experience and talent and
35:57
Speaker 1: ability and you're twenty eight and you go for a
35:59
Speaker 1: job or you're the same person, but you're fifty eight, Unfortunately,
36:03
Speaker 1: we live in a system that most employers will disadvantage
36:07
Speaker 1: you because you're fifty eight. And I don't agree with that,
36:11
Speaker 1: but I get it. I understand it because they're interested
36:15
Speaker 1: in their welfare, not yours. And I think, you know
36:20
Speaker 1: it's it's really you know, so many people that I've
36:24
Speaker 1: spoken to, and everyone's spoken to somebody and heard something similar,
36:28
Speaker 1: But so many people that I've spoken to have said
36:32
Speaker 1: a version of this. Wasn't my plan. This wasn't where
36:38
Speaker 1: I meant to end up. I didn't think. I didn't
36:42
Speaker 1: think at this age i'd be doing this. I didn't
36:45
Speaker 1: think that my life, my experience, my outcomes, my reality
36:49
Speaker 1: would be this. And I understand that, completely understand that.
36:53
Speaker 1: And then my next question is, Okay, so you aren't
36:56
Speaker 1: where you thought or hoped or dreamt you might be. Okay,
37:00
Speaker 1: so you've still got you know, you're forty, You've maybe
37:02
Speaker 1: got another forty years, maybe got another fifty, who knows.
37:06
Speaker 1: We don't know how much time you got, but what
37:07
Speaker 1: we know is you're not dead. What we know is
37:11
Speaker 1: you live in Australia or you live in a first
37:13
Speaker 1: world country. Most people who listen to this anyway, and
37:16
Speaker 1: what we know is you know you can still make decisions,
37:19
Speaker 1: you can still change behavior, you can still get uncomfortable,
37:23
Speaker 1: and even if it's a tiny step in a new direction,
37:26
Speaker 1: a tiny step can you take. No, you can't reinvent
37:29
Speaker 1: yourself over the next week, or you can't turn your
37:31
Speaker 1: life upside down today. We get that. And you can't
37:33
Speaker 1: find a brand new career by lunchtime. We get all
37:36
Speaker 1: of that, right, But let's get out of all of
37:38
Speaker 1: the reasons and all of the things that we can't
37:41
Speaker 1: do because we get it. We know it's hard, yep.
37:43
Speaker 1: We know that life's not fair. Yep. We know people
37:46
Speaker 1: picked on you. Yep. We know that ageism exists. Yep.
37:49
Speaker 1: We know all the bad shit. We're not pretending the
37:53
Speaker 1: bad shit isn't real. But what I'm saying to you
37:56
Speaker 1: you now, in this moment in your life, is what
38:00
Speaker 1: is possible for you to do to change your life?
38:06
Speaker 1: What is possible? What can you do to change the direction,
38:13
Speaker 1: to change your operating system, to change your outcomes, to
38:17
Speaker 1: live your purpose? Like, here are some questions. So if
38:21
Speaker 1: you want to if for some of you this is turning,
38:23
Speaker 1: didn't intend it to, but fuck, here we go. If
38:26
Speaker 1: this is turning into something of a coaching session. I'm
38:28
Speaker 1: going to give you some questions. My first question is this,
38:31
Speaker 1: right now, when I say all of this stuff, all
38:35
Speaker 1: of you know, I think you know. If you don't,
38:37
Speaker 1: you're about to know, because I'm going to tell you.
38:39
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending that any of this is quick, easy, fast,
38:42
Speaker 1: or painless. I'm not pretending that. But guess what, every
38:47
Speaker 1: single one of you, Hopefully in five years you're going
38:51
Speaker 1: to be five years older. Well, let's be honest, you're
38:53
Speaker 1: going to be dead, or you're going to be five
38:55
Speaker 1: years older. Let's hope that all of you listening to
38:57
Speaker 1: this are just going to be five years older. So
39:01
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, you're going to be five years older.
39:05
Speaker 1: I guess depends on when you listen to this, and
39:08
Speaker 1: your life is going to be the same. It's going
39:11
Speaker 1: to be a bit better, it's going to be a
39:12
Speaker 1: lot better. It's going to be wildly better, or it's
39:15
Speaker 1: going to be a bit worse or a lot worse,
39:16
Speaker 1: or it's going to be catastrophe. That's the truth. It's
39:19
Speaker 1: going to be somewhere on the scale between fucking horrendous
39:22
Speaker 1: and fucking amazing. I don't know where it is right now.
39:26
Speaker 1: But what I know is that the next five years
39:28
Speaker 1: is going to happen anyway. The next year is going
39:31
Speaker 1: to happen anyway, the next two years, three four years
39:34
Speaker 1: are going to happen anyway, And you're going to be there.
39:37
Speaker 1: You're going to be in the middle of those years.
39:38
Speaker 1: You're going to be in the middle of that reality.
39:40
Speaker 1: You're going to be in the middle of your life.
39:42
Speaker 1: Your life is going to continue. Things are going to happen.
39:45
Speaker 1: People are going to be shit adds to you. People
39:47
Speaker 1: are going to be amazing to you. COVID's going to
39:50
Speaker 1: come and go. Things are going to happen, good stuff,
39:52
Speaker 1: bad stuff. And then in the middle of all of
39:54
Speaker 1: that is you and your questions. Is you and your energy?
39:58
Speaker 1: Is you and your thinking and your choices? Is you
40:01
Speaker 1: and your behaviors? Is you and the reality that you create?
40:04
Speaker 1: You and your stories? So here are some questions. So
40:10
Speaker 1: my first question is what can I learn? What can
40:15
Speaker 1: I learn? Is it possible that my age, whatever your age,
40:19
Speaker 1: that I can learn new things? Is it possible that
40:22
Speaker 1: I can develop new skills? Number two, what's possible for me?
40:28
Speaker 1: What's possible for me? Not what's probable, not what's likely,
40:34
Speaker 1: not what does my past tell me? But what is possible. See,
40:39
Speaker 1: what's possible is that you can do some fucking incredible
40:42
Speaker 1: stuff when you get out of your own way. That's possible.
40:46
Speaker 1: If we look at most people and we look at
40:48
Speaker 1: typical human behavior, it's not likely, it's not common, it's
40:53
Speaker 1: not probable, but it's possible. So when I'm working with people,
40:58
Speaker 1: I don't care about life. I don't care about probable.
41:02
Speaker 1: I care about what could you do? What could you do?
41:06
Speaker 1: What could you change? What could you become? What could
41:09
Speaker 1: you achieve? What could you conquer? What could you do
41:13
Speaker 1: if you were brave? What could you do if you
41:17
Speaker 1: did the work? What could you do if you made
41:20
Speaker 1: the decisions? What could you do if you didn't do
41:23
Speaker 1: what most people do? What could you do? And then
41:29
Speaker 1: the next question is will you do it? And we
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Speaker 1: always kind of circle back to this, don't we We
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Speaker 1: always circle back away from the theory and into the practice,
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Speaker 1: into the habit, into the behavior, into the execution. Because,
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Speaker 1: as I've said many times on this podcast, and as
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Speaker 1: you won't hear lots of programs or in lots of books,
41:54
Speaker 1: or although you do hear it, but probably not enough
41:56
Speaker 1: is that it isn't about the theory, It isn't about
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Speaker 1: what come out of my mouth today on this podcast,
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Speaker 1: because all I am is stimulating you. I'm provoking you,
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Speaker 1: I'm teaching you, I'm hopefully inspiring you to do something.
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Speaker 1: And the reason that I'm doing all of this is
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Speaker 1: because I want you to tap into you. I want
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Speaker 1: you to get past the shit beliefs and the shit
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Speaker 1: self esteem and the shit stories and into the awesomeness
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Speaker 1: of what you can do when you let that cognitive
42:26
Speaker 1: crap and that emotional crap get out of the way.
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Speaker 1: My next question is how can I improve my cognitive function?
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Speaker 1: My next question is how can I lower my biological age?
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Speaker 1: In other words, how can I make my body function younger?
42:45
Speaker 1: In inverted commace? How can I get better? Whatever better
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Speaker 1: means for you? How can I use more of my potential? So,
42:54
Speaker 1: wherever you are, whoever you are, whatever your age are,
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Speaker 1: you are you really using If ten out of ten
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Speaker 1: is your potential, what's your number? Right now? I know
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Speaker 1: that I'm really having a crack with a lot of
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Speaker 1: things in my life in terms of my health and
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Speaker 1: my wellness and trying to be a good human and
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Speaker 1: trying to learn and grow and trying to be of
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Speaker 1: value to the world and humanity and my clients and
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Speaker 1: my listeners, my audience. I'm really trying, and I'm very
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Speaker 1: aware of my bullshit, and I'm very honest about my bullshit,
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Speaker 1: of which there is plenty, and my shortcomings, of which
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Speaker 1: there are plenty. I'm really having a go, and I
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Speaker 1: reconom at five if my potential is ten. I reconom
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Speaker 1: at five because I still give myself a get out
43:38
Speaker 1: of jail card. I still lie to myself. I still
43:40
Speaker 1: take the easy option sometimes. And this is not about
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Speaker 1: beating ourself up. This is about sometimes we think, oh fuck,
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Speaker 1: I'm doing everything humanly possible. Maybe some people are, but
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Speaker 1: not most, because the problem is to really tap into
43:58
Speaker 1: our potential is somewhat terrifying, because we need to open
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Speaker 1: doors that we don't like opening. Because in order to
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Speaker 1: tap into our potential, and I'm talking about deep into
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Speaker 1: our potential, I'm talking about the fucking, the amazing shit,
44:14
Speaker 1: there's going to be some pain. There's going to be
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Speaker 1: some suffering, there's going to be some hardship before we
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Speaker 1: start to get the rewards. And sometimes we'd rather stay
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Speaker 1: on the metaphoric couch because the couch is comfortable. So
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Speaker 1: what we do is we stay on the metaphoric couch
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Speaker 1: and we just hope that things work out. We hope
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Speaker 1: that the next five years will just present opportunities. My
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Speaker 1: question is what opportunity can you create? Not what opportunity
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Speaker 1: might in inverted commas come your way, but what could
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Speaker 1: you create yourself? How do you practically create opportunities? How
44:57
Speaker 1: can you change your default setting? What am I wasting
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Speaker 1: time and energy on right now that I can reshift
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Speaker 1: into something more positive and proactive for me? One of
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Speaker 1: my old man's or not one of my old man's.
45:14
Speaker 1: My old man's best friend is a guy called Gil,
45:19
Speaker 1: and I've spoken about Gil a bit. Gil's like my
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Speaker 1: second dad. Gil is I think he's eighty. He's either
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Speaker 1: seventy nine, eighty or eighty one, but let's go with eighty.
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Speaker 1: And what I love about what I love about this
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Speaker 1: man is he is he is timeless, ageless in that
45:41
Speaker 1: it never occurs to him that he's eighty. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not talking about you know, he looks eighty and he
45:47
Speaker 1: just acts like a juvenile. No, he looks like a healthy, fit, strong,
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Speaker 1: fifty five sixty year old and every day, pretty much
45:57
Speaker 1: of his life, he lives in the bush. He or
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Speaker 1: he lives in rural Victoria and he's right next to
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Speaker 1: a gigantic forest. He rides his mountain bike and I'm
46:06
Speaker 1: not talking about you know, pedals up and down a
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Speaker 1: dirt road three time and times and comes home. I'm
46:11
Speaker 1: talking about half day rides out in the middle of
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Speaker 1: nowhere with his drink bottle and his puncture kit and
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Speaker 1: riding one hundred k's or so in the bush and
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Speaker 1: then comes home. You know, he's all over tech. He's
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Speaker 1: all over computers, he's got drones, he's got this. I
46:29
Speaker 1: don't even want to say how much it's worth. This
46:31
Speaker 1: ridiculous used to be a truck. It's been converted to
46:36
Speaker 1: a mobile home. Like I don't know what do you
46:38
Speaker 1: call those things. It's bloody ridiculous. He maintains that him
46:43
Speaker 1: and his wife travel all over Australia to the deepest, darkest,
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Speaker 1: most remote areas. And you know, one of the things
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Speaker 1: that I love is when I meet with him, when
46:53
Speaker 1: I sit down with him, he doesn't do a cursory
46:57
Speaker 1: how's your life going. He will sit with me and
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Speaker 1: grill me on what I'm doing and how I'm doing it,
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Speaker 1: and why I'm doing it, because he wants to learn
47:08
Speaker 1: like he wanted to when I first started talking about
47:11
Speaker 1: my research with my study, he was so fascinated and
47:16
Speaker 1: he would just sit me down for an hour and
47:19
Speaker 1: ask me questions. And I'm not talking about you know
47:21
Speaker 1: how people kind of placate you where they're trying to
47:24
Speaker 1: be interested. No, he was absolutely riveted to hear about
47:29
Speaker 1: what it is I'm researching, why I'm researching it, why
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Speaker 1: it matters, how I'm testing it, about the scale that
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Speaker 1: I've developed, about why the world needs it, about the
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Speaker 1: whole PhD process. And his questions were bloody unbelievable, and
47:43
Speaker 1: I could tell he was literally just learning something. He
47:47
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to make me feel good and all take
47:50
Speaker 1: an interest in what Craig's doing. Now, yes he was
47:53
Speaker 1: doing that, but moreover, Comma your honor. He was learning
47:57
Speaker 1: new stuff and I love that. And this is the thing,
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Speaker 1: you know, we are We can't do anything about the calendar.
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Speaker 1: We can't do anything about chronological aging. I can't wake
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Speaker 1: up tomorrow and be fifty seven fifty six, or I
48:13
Speaker 1: can't be fifty five or I can't be thirty five
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Speaker 1: or twenty five. But what I can do today and
48:18
Speaker 1: what I can do tomorrow with my fifty seven year
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Speaker 1: old body, I can treat it differently. Fortunately, I treat
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Speaker 1: it pretty well, so I probably don't need to make
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Speaker 1: a lot of changes. But wherever you are, whoever you are,
48:30
Speaker 1: whatever your chronological age, there's no reason why you need
48:34
Speaker 1: to live that age. And as I said earlier, we're
48:37
Speaker 1: not talking about being deluded or acting young, or being
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Speaker 1: immature or silly. We're talking about being fully aware of
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Speaker 1: what we've got to work with. Right, I have been
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Speaker 1: on the planet fifty seven years. I am an endomorph.
48:51
Speaker 1: I do have a few injuries. I'm not pretending that
48:54
Speaker 1: I'm twenty years old. But what I'm doing with this
48:57
Speaker 1: fifty seven year old thing that I have to work with,
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Speaker 1: I'm choosing to optimize it. I'm choosing to optimize my brain.
49:05
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to optimize my lifestyle. I'm choosing to optimize
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Speaker 1: my choices, my behaviors, and my outcomes. Consciously, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to be a passenger in my aging life. I
49:19
Speaker 1: don't want to be a passenger of inevitability. Oh well,
49:23
Speaker 1: it's inevitable. You know what. There's a bit of inevitability
49:27
Speaker 1: to life, of course, but a lot of what people
49:31
Speaker 1: call inevitability to me is actually giving up. It's giving
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Speaker 1: up before before we've even opened the door on our
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Speaker 1: potential and our possibilities. So, boys and girls, I will
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Speaker 1: leave it there. Love your guts. I hope you find
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Speaker 1: some value in that. More importantly than that, I hope
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Speaker 1: you do something with it. Melissa, thank you for your time,
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Speaker 1: thank you, thanks to everyone. Going to be awesome, No pressure,
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Speaker 1: Bobby Gats see ya,