Latest / Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne / 2118 - 90 Day Fiance Tell All Part one (s12e19) with Kimberly
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- 0:15Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Tuesday, so it's
- 0:19Speaker 1: TLC Tuesday, and hooray, we have the 90 Day Fiancé
- 0:23Speaker 1: Season 12 Tell All Part 1, one of three. Looks
- 0:27Speaker 1: like next week everybody's going to get drunk and Katie's
- 0:29Speaker 1: going to try to make out with Debbie. I don't know.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Debbie's looking real good.
- 0:37Speaker 1: She sure is. What a glow up.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Did she get a little work done?
- 0:42Speaker 1: She definitely had some sort of, uh, uh, peel or
- 0:46Speaker 1: so she had some, something done to her skin. Yeah.
- 0:50Speaker 2: But I also felt like her lips looked bigger. Oh,
- 0:53Speaker 2: she had a little, and this looked a little less.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Hmm.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Well, what I would like to do.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Maybe she got a little Kimberly's life goals. I don't know.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Next situation. Chin. Next situation.
- 1:10Speaker 1: I feel like she's already had a lower facelift.
- 1:13Speaker 2: You think so?
- 1:14Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she looks very different from her younger pictures.
- 1:17Speaker 1: So I think she's had. I do. But I don't know. Like,
- 1:21Speaker 1: I don't know. And by the way, if you do
- 1:23Speaker 1: it twice, go for it. I might do it a second.
- 1:25Speaker 2: You might need a revision at some point.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Right. I don't know what happens. Gravity is a bitch.
- 1:32Speaker 1: I need a revision. I need a revision.
- 1:34Speaker 2: No.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
- 1:35Speaker 2: But I'm going to get so much work done next
- 1:38Speaker 2: year if I can afford it. First, the eye bluff.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Nothing. It's nothing.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Can't wait.
- 1:45Speaker 1: You snap back in a week. Okay.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Can't wait.
- 1:49Speaker 1: It's going to be so great. This is not what
- 1:51Speaker 1: we're here to talk about.
- 1:52Speaker 2: If you see me at LibreFest, just know that that
- 1:55Speaker 2: is not the... That is pre-surgery version of myself.
- 1:59Speaker 1: It's not the face you're going for.
- 2:00Speaker 2: It's the face you're working towards. It's not my dream face.
- 2:06Speaker 2: It's my what I got face versus what I ordered face.
- 2:11Speaker 1: It's your starter face. Yeah.
- 2:13Speaker 2: It's your starter face. Okay. I get it.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I get it. Everybody, we're partially kidding, but partially not. So,
- 2:20Speaker 1: you know, wait and see. So I'm excited about this reunion.
- 2:25Speaker 1: And you guys, when we do the reunions, the way
- 2:27Speaker 1: we do the notes is I do the first part.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Kimberly does the second part. Normally I indicate to you, Hey,
- 2:33Speaker 1: here's where I stopped, but we didn't do that this time.
- 2:37Speaker 1: So hopefully there's no over, over, but I went to 47. Right. Yeah.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Well, I watched on the two hour, like the full
- 2:47Speaker 2: on TLC. So I just stopped at the hour.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. I watched on
- 2:53Speaker 1: the screen or so. If Debbie did have some work done,
- 2:55Speaker 1: I'm going to have to look at it on my
- 2:56Speaker 1: full screen to really get the vibe of it. Yeah,
- 2:59Speaker 1: I was watching it on my laptop. It was so
- 3:01Speaker 1: great last night. I just sat in the bed watching TLC,
- 3:04Speaker 1: waiting for my 45 minutes to be up, and then
- 3:06Speaker 1: I watched the rest of it and played on my phone.
- 3:08Speaker 1: It was great.
- 3:09Speaker 2: So good. Yeah.
- 3:10Speaker 1: In the bed, eating chocolate.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Just watching without having to take notes is such a luxury.
- 3:15Speaker 1: It is.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It is.
- 3:17Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. Okay, let's do it. 90 Day Fiancé,
- 3:20Speaker 1: season 12, episode 19, tell all, part uno. We open
- 3:28Speaker 1: with Debbie shooting video of Mito in the street. And
- 3:31Speaker 1: he's going, welcome to New York. He's in the middle
- 3:33Speaker 1: of the street posing, turning, posing, turning. And she's just,
- 3:38Speaker 1: and I hope she's doing video and not a photo
- 3:40Speaker 1: because God knows.
- 3:42Speaker 2: I would love for him to snap at her in
- 3:44Speaker 2: front of everybody and see what happens.
- 3:47Speaker 1: I hope he does. Yeah, I hope he does, because
- 3:49Speaker 1: this him trying to be like, I'm such a nice
- 3:51Speaker 1: guy is not working for me. And he says, phony baloney.
- 3:57Speaker 2: And how does he not know about Broadway?
- 4:00Speaker 1: She's literally explaining to him like all of these are theaters.
- 4:05Speaker 1: How does he not know about Broadway?
- 4:07Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he has no interest in being a
- 4:09Speaker 2: theater actor because he doesn't really care about the craft
- 4:12Speaker 2: of acting. He wants to be famous. He wants to
- 4:14Speaker 2: be a star.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Because otherwise he could do plays in New Orleans.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Here's something interesting as well that I was listening today
- 4:26Speaker 1: to Sharon Horgan, who's one of my favorite actresses. And
- 4:30Speaker 1: she has a new show coming out, HBO Max, called Youth. And,
- 4:33Speaker 1: you know, she does Bad Sisters. She did Catastrophe. And
- 4:37Speaker 1: she was on Smartless. And she was saying that she
- 4:42Speaker 1: really didn't get a lot of momentum with her writing
- 4:45Speaker 1: and stuff until she was in her 30s. And even then,
- 4:48Speaker 1: she kept her job. She worked for over six years
- 4:50Speaker 1: in giving people their unemployment benefits in London. She worked
- 4:56Speaker 1: in unemployment benefits in London for the government. And she says,
- 5:00Speaker 1: and I really would have worked there longer, but I
- 5:04Speaker 1: ended up not having the time because I was getting
- 5:05Speaker 1: all this momentum with my writing. But she didn't want
- 5:08Speaker 1: to leave the job. She wanted to have a steady
- 5:10Speaker 1: job while she was trying to do what her dream was. Now,
- 5:14Speaker 1: why can't Mito... have that same idea. The whole time
- 5:17Speaker 1: I was thinking of Mito, like Mito, pay attention. This
- 5:20Speaker 1: is what working actors do. They get a job while
- 5:23Speaker 1: they work on trying to get something going.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Now, generally, I mean, a goal would be a public
- 5:29Speaker 2: facing job so that you could potentially meet someone or
- 5:33Speaker 2: just tell him, just tell him that there are so
- 5:36Speaker 2: many agents in New Orleans at all the restaurants. And
- 5:41Speaker 2: put him behind a hostess counter or a waiter. Give
- 5:48Speaker 2: him a waiter's apron and say, you're going to meet
- 5:49Speaker 2: so many agents at this job.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Not a touristy town at all where drunk people will
- 5:55Speaker 1: come in and vomit on your shoes.
- 5:56Speaker 2: No, just lie to him and say, this has the
- 5:59Speaker 2: highest percentage of agents in the country. And they only
- 6:03Speaker 2: eat at restaurants. And make some money. Yeah. And he'll
- 6:07Speaker 2: be getting tips. Because he'll be super charming because he'll
- 6:10Speaker 2: think that they're all agents.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
- 6:14Speaker 2: And it'll take him about a year to catch on.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:17Speaker 2: And go, you know what, Debbie? I have not met
- 6:19Speaker 2: one agent at the restaurant.
- 6:22Speaker 1: If he doesn't know about Broadway and is stunned that
- 6:25Speaker 1: all these theaters were there, then that could work for him.
- 6:29Speaker 1: So he says, one day I will have my face
- 6:32Speaker 1: on one of these Broadway signs. Now, even though he
- 6:36Speaker 1: didn't know what it was 10 minutes before. Yeah. Now,
- 6:38Speaker 1: Debbie has a new hairstyle. She's pushed her bangs to
- 6:42Speaker 1: the side instead of having them square across. It's very streaked.
- 6:47Speaker 1: It's very fluffy. It's very.
- 6:51Speaker 2: It's full.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Whoever did the color did not do a good job.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Unless that's the look she's going for.
- 6:57Speaker 2: But that woman takes neutrophil. Or has very good genes.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Or put some extensions in. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
- 7:06Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, this lower part of her face
- 7:08Speaker 2: looked primo.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm going to look and see if it's
- 7:12Speaker 1: makeup or if it's Maybelline. Okay, so in her talking head,
- 7:17Speaker 1: she says, we're working on our marriage because, you know,
- 7:20Speaker 1: we're both short-tempered. But I have to tell you, the
- 7:22Speaker 1: sex has been amazing, amazing.
- 7:27Speaker 2: No one believes that.
- 7:28Speaker 1: No one believes that.
- 7:29Speaker 2: I need Shawn Robinson to go, show of hands, who
- 7:32Speaker 2: believes that they have a great sex life?
- 7:35Speaker 1: She says she worries about Mito's response at the tell
- 7:38Speaker 1: all to other people if other people come for him
- 7:41Speaker 1: because he just doesn't see what other people see.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Right. But he does love to pretend to be a
- 7:48Speaker 2: great guy.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:49Speaker 2: So we'll see how long he can keep the facade up.
- 7:53Speaker 2: He's fine at the beginning, but then maybe once it's
- 7:56Speaker 2: their turn.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:59Speaker 2: The mask will slip.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen the second episode yet. We haven't
- 8:02Speaker 1: gotten it yet on our screeners.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Right.
- 8:04Speaker 1: But I'm going to be watching right away. So, Katie is...
- 8:08Speaker 1: I touched my microphone. I got paranoid it was going
- 8:11Speaker 1: to unplug.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Sorry, guys.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I'm still with this travel mic. So, Katie is awkwardly
- 8:16Speaker 1: running in the city. Her mouth is open wide and
- 8:21Speaker 1: she's got her shoulders way back.
- 8:24Speaker 2: She runs like Phoebe on Friends, but... Yeah. I don't
- 8:28Speaker 2: know anything about form. I've just read on Reddit that
- 8:31Speaker 2: her form is terrible, but apparently she has really good
- 8:35Speaker 2: times in like all the marathons that she's run. So
- 8:40Speaker 2: you could have great, like horrible form and still be
- 8:43Speaker 2: a good runner. It might be like blowing out her
- 8:45Speaker 2: knees in five years, but.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Okay. Well, she's awkwardly running and she says she's anxious,
- 8:53Speaker 1: anxious and stressed and wants the other couples to like her.
- 8:56Speaker 1: And not think she's a terrible person. All about her. Uh-huh.
- 9:01Speaker 1: And she goes to meet up with Josh at the hotel.
- 9:03Speaker 1: And he goes, okay, you need to be ready in
- 9:05Speaker 1: five minutes. Now, LOL. But what I noticed is Josh
- 9:11Speaker 1: is dressed as if he's gone to Denver to go
- 9:13Speaker 1: to the mountains.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Not a New York City look.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Indiana Jones. Yes.
- 9:19Speaker 1: I think they told him it was cold. And he
- 9:21Speaker 1: was like, this is what the Americans wear when it's cold.
- 9:23Speaker 1: But they do. But in Montana.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Right.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Yeah. So the talking head, he says, when we got married,
- 9:30Speaker 1: I felt a sense of calm. But I do still
- 9:34Speaker 1: need a lot more from her so we can feel
- 9:37Speaker 1: emotionally connected. And there was an unfortunate moment earlier in
- 9:42Speaker 1: the year. That was embarrassing. And it made my heart sink.
- 9:46Speaker 1: And I know I'm going to get a lot of judgment.
- 9:50Speaker 1: He says, I know she will get a lot of judgment.
- 9:52Speaker 1: And a lot of it will be fair.
- 9:55Speaker 2: And I can't wait to get, watch her get roasted.
- 9:58Speaker 1: He's thinking, he's thinking like, it's not, I mean, I'm.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Totally going to defend her.
- 10:03Speaker 1: So Rashid and Mallory.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She literally sits down and
- 10:09Speaker 2: he says, you need to get shower and get ready
- 10:12Speaker 2: five minutes. And she says, what do you think the
- 10:14Speaker 2: other couples are going to say about me?
- 10:17Speaker 1: He goes, did you hear the five minute part? Because
- 10:19Speaker 1: we have to be there in five minutes.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Also, why is it so she's just so unbelievably selfish.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Like it's all about her. Not are you nervous? How
- 10:32Speaker 2: are you feeling? What are they going to say about me?
- 10:35Speaker 1: Are we going to get into her undiagnosed mental illness?
- 10:39Speaker 1: Is anybody going to say, girl, you obviously have narcissistic personalities,
- 10:43Speaker 1: either disorder you may be. On the spectrum.
- 10:46Speaker 2: On the spectrum.
- 10:47Speaker 1: There's so many comorbidity things going on. There's so many
- 10:51Speaker 1: things going on here. That's what I would have said.
- 10:54Speaker 2: I would have said, girl, I would say this with love,
- 10:58Speaker 2: get thee to a psychiatrist and get re-evaluated. Because the
- 11:04Speaker 2: last time was when you were a child.
- 11:06Speaker 1: And I think the drinking is trying to tamp down something. Yes.
- 11:11Speaker 1: All right. Rasheed and Mallory. appearing unwashed as always.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Um, they're in seriously, the flat hair. It's so, I.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Think she, I think she's like, I washed my hair
- 11:25Speaker 1: this morning. I'm just going to let it air dry.
- 11:27Speaker 1: I'm not putting on a damn stitch of makeup. I
- 11:30Speaker 1: don't care if I'm getting filmed. Because when I get there.
- 11:33Speaker 2: They're going to do my makeup.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to do my makeup when I get there.
- 11:35Speaker 2: I mean, she's young. I never used to wear makeup
- 11:38Speaker 2: in public. I still really don't. But, like, because I should.
- 11:42Speaker 2: But she's young. She doesn't have to. But, like, the
- 11:44Speaker 2: hair should be clean at least.
- 11:46Speaker 1: I felt like she had washed it that morning and
- 11:48Speaker 1: her hair is just thin. And when it air dries
- 11:51Speaker 1: and you don't fix it, that's what mine looks like.
- 11:54Speaker 1: If I just get out of the shower and air
- 11:55Speaker 1: dry it, it's like noodles. I have to dry it
- 11:58Speaker 1: a little and then put it up in a head,
- 12:00Speaker 1: like a rubber band or something to give it some volume.
- 12:02Speaker 2: And we don't know when this was filmed. It could
- 12:05Speaker 2: have been very humid. Not really. I mean, the city
- 12:09Speaker 2: gets really hot in the summer.
- 12:13Speaker 1: It wasn't the summer. Josh was dressed for the mountains.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Rasheed had on a leather jacket.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
- 12:19Speaker 1: So they're looking at skyscrapers. Neither one of them have
- 12:22Speaker 1: ever been to New York. So they're excited about it.
- 12:25Speaker 1: He finds a food truck. He's beside himself. It's like
- 12:27Speaker 1: halal chicken or something. And they talk about her having
- 12:32Speaker 1: to use the bathroom if she eats it spicy.
- 12:34Speaker 2: And Mallory said not what I would have chosen before
- 12:37Speaker 2: putting on a nice dress.
- 12:38Speaker 1: And a big thing of like meeting Sean Robinson. Yeah.
- 12:42Speaker 1: So Mallory says she's been working super hard, working her
- 12:45Speaker 1: ass off. They're waiting on his green card, waiting on
- 12:48Speaker 1: his work visa. And he says, I'm so frustrated with
- 12:52Speaker 1: not being able to work. It's really hard. And if
- 12:54Speaker 1: that green card doesn't come, I'm going to move to Turkey.
- 12:57Speaker 1: I miss it so much. And she's like, she's like,
- 13:00Speaker 1: so things are going great.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Um, um, Thomas and Paula go into a souvenir shop
- 13:06Speaker 1: and she wants to buy a tiny New York city. And, um,
- 13:09Speaker 1: he goes with what money we're a one income house. Uh,
- 13:12Speaker 1: and he picks her up and throws her over her shoulder,
- 13:15Speaker 1: which was odd. Um, In the talking head, he says,
- 13:19Speaker 1: Paula has an idea for our future. Lots of ideas
- 13:22Speaker 1: of ways to spend money, but not a lot of
- 13:25Speaker 1: ideas on how to make money. I think she's trying
- 13:29Speaker 1: to open up an ear-piercing place. Yeah.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Franchise.
- 13:34Speaker 1: So, Asha goes, as she's going into the city in
- 13:39Speaker 1: the Uber or whatever, she's FaceTiming Maxwell and showing him
- 13:43Speaker 1: the buildings and stuff. And she says, Maxwell is stuck
- 13:46Speaker 1: in Nigeria, but I'm excited about finding out what the
- 13:49Speaker 1: other couples think about us. And I hope I do
- 13:51Speaker 1: not have to plead the blood, the blood, the blood
- 13:53Speaker 1: of Jesus on them. She's leaning into her catchphrases.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Which sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Can I brand it? Yeah.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Yeah. You should do it before she does. So she
- 14:06Speaker 1: says to the driver, do you want to pray with us?
- 14:08Speaker 1: And he's like, all right. And she does, Lord, let
- 14:12Speaker 1: this go well. Ding dong. Amen. And she says, I
- 14:18Speaker 1: know people are going to judge my religious beliefs because
- 14:20Speaker 1: people think I'm crazy and cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. And
- 14:23Speaker 1: I don't care. I just want people to hear me out.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Who would have thought? She's like my favorite one now.
- 14:29Speaker 1: And I'm so excited.
- 14:31Speaker 2: And she's like the least annoying one on the stage.
- 14:34Speaker 1: She's great on the reunion. Yeah. Great. So everybody's getting
- 14:39Speaker 1: their makeup done. Paula and Mallory meet, and they sit
- 14:42Speaker 1: in the chairs and they talk. And Paula goes, I
- 14:45Speaker 1: don't know what to think about all of this. Like,
- 14:47Speaker 1: I don't want to be mean, but I will give
- 14:49Speaker 1: my opinion, of course. And Mallory's like, okay, girl. So
- 14:54Speaker 1: Edward and Marissa arrive, and he tells us that their
- 14:58Speaker 1: biggest issue they're having is her ex, Michael. Yeah, that
- 15:01Speaker 1: was surprising. Surprising, because he seemed to be like, as
- 15:05Speaker 1: long as you don't fuck with my kids, like, we're good. Yeah.
- 15:07Speaker 2: You know?
- 15:08Speaker 1: So he says, you know, Michael is very jealous. I'm
- 15:11Speaker 1: not OK with his behavior. I'm ready for the tell all.
- 15:15Speaker 1: I don't like Mito. I think he's an asshole. And
- 15:19Speaker 1: I really don't like Thomas because I think he's cheap. So, yeah,
- 15:22Speaker 1: I'm going to give my opinion. I do love the
- 15:24Speaker 1: British guy, Josh. And so he sees Josh. He just
- 15:28Speaker 1: grabs him and hugs him. And he's like, buddy, be
- 15:32Speaker 1: my best friend.
- 15:32Speaker 2: I love you so much.
- 15:34Speaker 1: And Edward says, listen, hey, man. Hey, man, I've got
- 15:37Speaker 1: my opinions. Don't take it personally. And Josh is like, oh, goodness,
- 15:40Speaker 1: I will not. As long as you're talking about Katie.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:46Speaker 1: They joke about, oh, I can't wait to have drinks
- 15:47Speaker 1: with you later. And Edward goes, she needs to drink water.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Every single person mentions that she drinks. Every single person drinks.
- 15:57Speaker 1: They go right into the drinking. Yep. So in the
- 16:01Speaker 1: talking head, Edward says, Oh, that Katie. She seems sweet.
- 16:05Speaker 1: She's got a lot of problems. A lot of problems.
- 16:08Speaker 1: A lot of problems. I don't speak the language and
- 16:10Speaker 1: I may be stupido, but that girl. Yeah. Shay and
- 16:15Speaker 1: Annabelle get out of the car.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Oh, did you see when Katie walks in and it
- 16:18Speaker 2: totally ignores Edward? Like she's like, hi. Cause she like
- 16:22Speaker 2: hears that they're talking and she walks up and he's like, Katie.
- 16:26Speaker 2: And he's like ready to hug her. And she's like, hi.
- 16:29Speaker 2: And then just goes into a dressing room.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Like, Shay and Annabelle get out of their SUV. Babe,
- 16:37Speaker 1: we're here, babe. Look at this New York City, babe.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Can you see anything like babe? She's like, oh, babe,
- 16:40Speaker 1: so pretty, babe. So the talking head, he says, things
- 16:44Speaker 1: are good. Things are good, Annabelle. She loves to cook
- 16:47Speaker 1: and take care of me. This is working out great.
- 16:50Speaker 1: But I am worried about my ex, Nicole, who's going
- 16:52Speaker 1: to be here. And I could get in trouble before
- 16:55Speaker 1: this is all over. Now, I'm sure they're going to
- 16:57Speaker 1: talk about it. But Shay does look like he has
- 17:00Speaker 1: trimmed down a bit. Yeah. Yeah.
- 17:03Speaker 2: So Annabella's... Not as much as we've seen on social media.
- 17:06Speaker 2: So this is clearly, you know, four months ago or something.
- 17:13Speaker 1: So in the Talking Hard, Shay says... His teeth are
- 17:16Speaker 1: still the same. Not teeth or.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Not addressed.
- 17:20Speaker 1: The hardest part is that people think I've been cheating
- 17:23Speaker 1: on her. And that's been the hardest part for us.
- 17:25Speaker 1: All right. So Mito comes up and meets Rashid. And
- 17:30Speaker 1: Rashid goes, oh, hi. So hello. Amita goes, nice to
- 17:33Speaker 1: meet you. And Rashid goes, yeah, hello. I don't know you.
- 17:36Speaker 1: I don't trust you. And Amita has a complete fake
- 17:39Speaker 1: smile and goes, why? You do not know me to
- 17:43Speaker 1: trust me. What is the deal? And Rashid goes, oh,
- 17:47Speaker 1: I just think you look fake. You just seem fake.
- 17:49Speaker 1: And Amita goes, okay, nice to meet you. I respect
- 17:53Speaker 1: your opinion. I was like, get ready, Amita, because nobody
- 17:56Speaker 1: likes you. All right, y'all, we're headed into the fall
- 18:01Speaker 1: and it's time to flip your closet around and get
- 18:03Speaker 1: rid of those summer things and start loading in those
- 18:05Speaker 1: fall items. Y'all, I have so much travel coming up
- 18:08Speaker 1: in the fall. And the thing that I reach for
- 18:10Speaker 1: in my closet every time I'm traveling is my Quince
- 18:13Speaker 1: flow knit pullover and the Quince flow knit wide leg pants.
- 18:18Speaker 1: It's an easy travel outfit. And I also just got
- 18:21Speaker 1: a gorgeous woven leather travel bag, perfect for my laptop.
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- 18:48Speaker 1: those cashmere cardigans are great for fall when it starts
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- 20:04Speaker 1: shade no So the talking head, Mito, says, other couples
- 20:10Speaker 1: will judge me from just the video. And they saw
- 20:13Speaker 1: me like a bad guy. Talk every day. I don't know.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Mito is bad guy. But I am success every day.
- 20:20Speaker 1: And I don't care about anyone.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Footage not found.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Success every day?
- 20:26Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Okay.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Maybe we haven't seen it yet.
- 20:30Speaker 1: Maybe. Maybe he's going to wow us with his Oscar nomination.
- 20:33Speaker 1: So we see Thomas doing yoga. Edward walks up to
- 20:38Speaker 1: meet him. And the talking head, the producer, asks Aisha, Aisha,
- 20:42Speaker 1: what do you think of Thomas? And she goes, he's
- 20:45Speaker 1: a hothead. He's a hothead. I wish he could manage
- 20:48Speaker 1: his temper. He goes from zero to one million. Hothead.
- 20:52Speaker 2: I thought she was talking about someone else.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Thomas.
- 20:56Speaker 2: I thought she got the names wrong. She could have,
- 20:59Speaker 2: but I wouldn't necessarily call him a hothead.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Uh, he does go from zero to 1 million if
- 21:06Speaker 1: you wear perfume, but I wouldn't say a hothead.
- 21:10Speaker 2: No, like I wouldn't say he has an anger problem.
- 21:12Speaker 2: I mean, at one time we did see, which was
- 21:15Speaker 2: the perfume and when they were driving in the car
- 21:18Speaker 2: discussing the perfume, but other times I would say no.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Manage his temper. That would make me think of Mito.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Definitely. Yeah.
- 21:29Speaker 1: So Debbie and Marissa talk. They're like, oh, we were
- 21:32Speaker 1: both single ladies, but now we have a man living
- 21:34Speaker 1: in our house. Older ladies with a young man, am
- 21:36Speaker 1: I right? And Katie walks up. They're like, hey, girl.
- 21:39Speaker 1: And it's very like mother-daughter vibes, you know, when Katie
- 21:43Speaker 1: walks up. And they're all like, hey, girl, you look
- 21:45Speaker 1: so good. You look great. And Katie goes, hi. I
- 21:51Speaker 1: worry if I say spicy things, you're going to hate
- 21:54Speaker 1: me forever.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Hi. Hi.
- 21:56Speaker 1: And Debbie goes, oh, nice to meet you. We won't.
- 21:59Speaker 1: We won't hate you. Just please don't drink. Please don't drink. Yeah.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Please, dear God, don't try to kiss us.
- 22:05Speaker 1: And Katie looks right at Debbie and goes, OK, yeah. Also,
- 22:08Speaker 1: I'm going to be mean to Mito. Not I've got
- 22:14Speaker 1: things to say to Mito. I've got opinions, but I'm
- 22:16Speaker 1: going to be mean to him. Yeah.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Well, I probably would feel the same thing, but I
- 22:20Speaker 2: would say it in a much less blunt way.
- 22:23Speaker 1: I would say, oh, I've got some opinions on Mito. Woo! Yeah.
- 22:28Speaker 1: So we're talking ahead. Katie goes, yeah, like I hope
- 22:31Speaker 1: people don't think I'm an alcoholic or a hoe. I
- 22:34Speaker 1: guess I am kind of a hoe, but I don't
- 22:36Speaker 1: think it's bad. I'm not like a super evil hoe. And,
- 22:43Speaker 1: you know, I think Mito, I think Mito sucks. I
- 22:46Speaker 1: think he's the biggest asshole, but he's kind of hot.
- 22:49Speaker 1: He looks like a glam version of Josh.
- 22:52Speaker 2: What? What? Because they both have curly hair? No.
- 22:55Speaker 1: And darker skin? Josh is way cuter than Mito, in
- 23:00Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I had to choose.
- 23:04Speaker 2: If I had to choose, yeah.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Yeah. So, they walk in and Marissa's like, ooh, it's
- 23:09Speaker 1: so cold in here. I'm so tiny.
- 23:11Speaker 2: I just, ooh.
- 23:12Speaker 1: I need a blanket. Ooh, 0% body fat. Get it, Marissa.
- 23:16Speaker 1: You're skinny. So... All the couples are together and Asha says,
- 23:20Speaker 1: it's hard for me because Maxwell is thousands of miles away.
- 23:24Speaker 1: It's really bittersweet. She is sitting so awkwardly in her chair.
- 23:28Speaker 1: And we saw this before when Stacy and Florian were
- 23:31Speaker 1: on for last resort. And her bustier was so tight
- 23:35Speaker 1: that she could not put her arms down. So she's
- 23:39Speaker 1: sitting with her arms like this, which makes it look,
- 23:43Speaker 1: it's so awkward. Because she can't breathe. She can't bend.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Uh-uh.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Yeah. Not a good reunion dress.
- 23:51Speaker 2: So she's sitting.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Awkwardly in her chair.
- 23:53Speaker 2: It's going to cause gas, too, because it's so tight.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're right.
- 23:57Speaker 2: She's just going to be so uncomfortable. Right.
- 24:01Speaker 1: And she's got hours to sit there, hours. And then
- 24:03Speaker 1: she's going to put it back on tomorrow for continuity.
- 24:06Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah.
- 24:08Speaker 1: So Marissa tells Edward, okay, listen, try not to go
- 24:12Speaker 1: off on tangents. You don't know what that means. Never mind.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Okay. unbelievable before starting off strong even started.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Try not to go off on tangents you don't know
- 24:23Speaker 1: what that means never mind it's.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Okay sean hasn't even stepped on the stage yet and
- 24:29Speaker 2: he's already done something wrong he's sitting there being alive
- 24:33Speaker 2: he doesn't know what tangents mean.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Yeah so thomas tells um paula um Mito's scent was
- 24:41Speaker 1: very strong. No shit. We've seen him spray like a
- 24:45Speaker 1: zillion things on him. And Paula goes, yeah, yeah, you're
- 24:48Speaker 1: in a normal world. People are going to be wearing perfume.
- 24:51Speaker 1: He's like fanning with the pillow. He gets the pillow.
- 24:57Speaker 2: And the pillow appears to have some sort of scent
- 25:00Speaker 2: on it that is distasteful to him because he's like
- 25:02Speaker 2: wrinkling his nose.
- 25:04Speaker 1: And they're all like, huh? And Mito tells Debbie, I
- 25:08Speaker 1: met that Rashid. I think he's fake. And she's like, what?
- 25:13Speaker 1: We had just sat down. I know. So Mito tells
- 25:18Speaker 1: Debbie that Rashid is fake, but Rashid told Mito that
- 25:21Speaker 1: he didn't like him because he thought he was fake.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:24Speaker 1: So, by the way, you're both fake. So Sean arrives
- 25:29Speaker 1: looking incredible. And, of course, Rashid, who I guess has
- 25:32Speaker 1: never seen a reunion, goes, oh, my gosh, she's Angel.
- 25:36Speaker 2: He's going to leave Mallory. And just follow Sean around
- 25:40Speaker 2: the country.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Yeah. We all feel that way, Rashid. I understand when
- 25:44Speaker 1: you first see her. It is a lot to take in.
- 25:46Speaker 2: There is a glow there. She has some sort of
- 25:49Speaker 2: youth elixir that none of us understand. So I get it.
- 25:53Speaker 2: But your wife is right next to you. So tone
- 25:56Speaker 2: it down.
- 25:58Speaker 1: So she says some words. Welcome, blah, blah, blah. And
- 26:01Speaker 1: we dive in. Hello, Mallory and Rashid. They discuss how
- 26:04Speaker 1: to pronounce it. It is a raw sheet. But he
- 26:09Speaker 1: says the English language is so dirty. It sounds like
- 26:12Speaker 1: raw shit is what he says. He says, so people
- 26:16Speaker 1: will say shit, but it's raw sheet. Raw sheet. She goes,
- 26:20Speaker 1: I know how to say it. Raw sheet. But I
- 26:22Speaker 1: just say raw. So I was glad to know that
- 26:25Speaker 1: we had been saying it correctly the whole season.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Yes.
- 26:29Speaker 1: So he says, I love Alabama. I love it. And
- 26:33Speaker 1: they ask him about Brandy. He goes, I don't trust Brandy.
- 26:36Speaker 2: No. No.
- 26:37Speaker 1: And he goes, and if we need something from Brandy,
- 26:39Speaker 1: I will call, not Mallory. So that's kind of still
- 26:42Speaker 1: his issue is the man would do the calling and
- 26:45Speaker 1: not her. And they ask her about dating Brandon. She
- 26:48Speaker 1: says he was never a boyfriend, never a boyfriend. We
- 26:51Speaker 1: were just friends with benefits for a very short time.
- 26:55Speaker 1: And Katie goes, oh, my God, I'm friends with 20
- 26:57Speaker 1: people or more that I hooked up with, so who cares? Well.
- 27:02Speaker 1: And everybody laughs. And Mallory, who's like, she goes, Katie
- 27:07Speaker 1: gets it like girl power. Oh no. Yeah. Oh no. Um,
- 27:12Speaker 1: and Sean goes, girl, you're a different story. We're talking
- 27:15Speaker 1: to somebody else right now.
- 27:17Speaker 2: We'll get to your, all of your issues. It's going
- 27:19Speaker 2: to be all constellation of ailments. Yes. It's Morrison would
- 27:22Speaker 2: say it's.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Going to be episode three of the reunion. We'll just,
- 27:25Speaker 1: just you. Um, so welcome Katie and Josh. Josh, do
- 27:31Speaker 1: you think Katie has been 100% faithful? And he goes,
- 27:34Speaker 1: I believe so. Yes, she has. And she sits there
- 27:39Speaker 1: and he goes, no, wait, she has not. And Katie goes, yeah,
- 27:42Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, was she going to lie? And
- 27:46Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, on New Year's Eve I was bad.
- 27:49Speaker 1: I made out with a lot of people, like four.
- 27:52Speaker 2: I don't like this I was bad, like it's all cutesy.
- 27:55Speaker 2: I was bad. I'm just a little girl. I was bad.
- 28:00Speaker 1: And Asha goes, Katie.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Katie.
- 28:03Speaker 1: Don't you imagine that that is hurting him and embarrassing him?
- 28:06Speaker 1: You're doing something like to the person you say you love. And, Josh,
- 28:10Speaker 1: how do you feel when she does that? I was like,
- 28:13Speaker 1: all right, Asha.
- 28:14Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Get in, girl. She's like, I'm.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Going to take Shawn Robinson's job. I know people online
- 28:20Speaker 2: do not like her that much. So this is my
- 28:23Speaker 2: chance to swoop in.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Asha's like, Kenny, call me. Let's get on it.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 28:27Speaker 1: So she says, Josh, how do you feel when she
- 28:30Speaker 1: does that? And he goes, oh, it's such a bad
- 28:32Speaker 1: feeling when the boundaries are crossed. And Edward goes, you know,
- 28:37Speaker 1: he's such a nice guy. Like, he's such a nice guy,
- 28:40Speaker 1: but this is too much. And Katie goes, he's not
- 28:42Speaker 1: that nice.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Oh, my God. What the fuck is wrong with her? Like,
- 28:49Speaker 2: whatever he does is, I guarantee you, not bad enough
- 28:54Speaker 2: to warrant the way you've treated him.
- 28:56Speaker 1: And I guarantee you it is a reaction to something
- 28:58Speaker 1: you have done.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Like, are you trying to say he's secretly abusive or something?
- 29:04Speaker 2: Like there's not a, that would maybe, but nothing else
- 29:08Speaker 2: he's done would warrant your behavior. And so you're just
- 29:13Speaker 2: throwing him under the bus to get the, you know,
- 29:16Speaker 2: heat off you.
- 29:18Speaker 1: She goes, I just like to party.
- 29:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:21Speaker 1: And Josh says, well, really the conversation is you being
- 29:24Speaker 1: in your right mind. You drink, go cross-eyed, and then
- 29:28Speaker 1: go over the boundaries. And Aisha goes, we need to
- 29:31Speaker 1: fix the drinking issue. That's what it is. And Sean says, Katie,
- 29:37Speaker 1: do you think the partying is the issue and just
- 29:39Speaker 1: nothing else? else? She burst into tears. It was so
- 29:47Speaker 1: difficult to watch. Nobody reacts. Nobody hands her a tissue.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Josh, she has screwed up her face. It
- 29:55Speaker 1: was like ugly crying. And she goes, everybody thinks I'm
- 29:59Speaker 1: a bad person. And then Josh goes, Katie, what's bothering
- 30:08Speaker 1: you at the moment? And she goes, I don't like this. Like,
- 30:12Speaker 1: I don't like that I'm made out with people on
- 30:14Speaker 1: New Year's. Like, I've been trying to get better. And
- 30:19Speaker 1: Marissa goes, people don't think you're a bad person. Just
- 30:22Speaker 1: maybe you have some bad actions. And Marissa and Debbie,
- 30:26Speaker 1: they're really trying to talk to her like a mom.
- 30:28Speaker 2: You know, they really are.
- 30:30Speaker 1: And Sean goes, we're going to give Katie a moment
- 30:32Speaker 1: to gather herself. Marissa and Edward, you two really struggle
- 30:36Speaker 1: to adjust to each other. And she goes, yes, Sean,
- 30:40Speaker 1: I've really been working on my patience. As shown four
- 30:43Speaker 1: minutes ago when I told him, you don't know what
- 30:45Speaker 1: tangents are. Yeah, he's stupid. Sean goes over and goes,
- 30:50Speaker 1: Asha and Maxwell, what's going on? She goes, his visa
- 30:54Speaker 1: has not been approved. And they have an agreement to
- 30:57Speaker 1: see each other three times a year. She says the
- 30:59Speaker 1: flights are at least $ 1, 000 a visit. And they're talking
- 31:04Speaker 1: about her dress. And she goes, mm-hmm, you know those
- 31:06Speaker 1: Nigerians got me all together. She stands up. She goes,
- 31:08Speaker 1: I got that Nigerian BBL. She turns around because they
- 31:11Speaker 1: do the dress so tight that her ass looks great.
- 31:14Speaker 2: She's not going to be able to have children after
- 31:16Speaker 2: wearing this dress.
- 31:18Speaker 1: It is. Again, she cannot sit down. It is crushing
- 31:22Speaker 1: her female organs. Uh-huh. And her intestines. And so, okay,
- 31:28Speaker 1: on to Thomas and Paula. She got her green card.
- 31:31Speaker 1: And Rasheed's like. Why did he do that? Like, he's
- 31:39Speaker 1: got something against Paula now?
- 31:41Speaker 2: No, I don't think he could have anything against Paula.
- 31:44Speaker 2: I think they are team Paula, for sure.
- 31:47Speaker 1: It was so weird. He did it like, oh, good
- 31:49Speaker 1: for you, like that.
- 31:50Speaker 2: You felt like it was sarcastic? Yes. He is very
- 31:53Speaker 2: strange online.
- 31:55Speaker 1: He's very strange, yes.
- 31:56Speaker 2: So perhaps his sense of humor, we just don't understand.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Because she goes, stop it right now. Yeah.
- 32:04Speaker 2: She did to Marissa.
- 32:05Speaker 1: She pulled on Marissa.
- 32:06Speaker 2: I will.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Take you outside. Roar, door, phone. She did. And Thomas says, yeah,
- 32:15Speaker 1: she got her green card. And the first thing she
- 32:18Speaker 1: did was buy tickets to Brazil. And her birthday is
- 32:21Speaker 1: on Christmas. So we surprised her family on Christmas. And
- 32:24Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my gosh, this all sounds great.
- 32:26Speaker 1: Who would have thought these two crazy kids could make it?
- 32:29Speaker 1: And Sean says, well, how's it going today with your allergies?
- 32:33Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm okay. And Rashi says, what's he
- 32:36Speaker 1: talking about? What's he talking about? And she goes, his
- 32:39Speaker 1: nose is sensitive. She goes, what? What? What? And she goes,
- 32:44Speaker 1: he has a perfume. What about? And she goes, his
- 32:46Speaker 1: nose is sensitive to perfume. He has an allergy. God.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Did you watch the season?
- 32:50Speaker 2: Rashi doesn't understand that this is like seeing a play.
- 32:55Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be talking. Yes.
- 32:58Speaker 1: And he keeps asking. And then Rashi goes, oh, you
- 33:01Speaker 1: have a problem with perfume? I'm going to put it
- 33:02Speaker 1: on and rub it all over you. And he does
- 33:05Speaker 1: a shimmy. And Thomas laughs and goes, okay, man, I
- 33:09Speaker 1: got something to say about you, buddy. You watch out. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Thomas is so non-threatening, though.
- 33:17Speaker 2: But that made Rush, I think, think it was a joke. Yeah.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Not that Thomas should have to say, I know you're joking,
- 33:25Speaker 2: but it is actually a very serious condition. Yeah. Like,
- 33:29Speaker 2: that would be annoying to have to explain it to
- 33:32Speaker 2: pranksters like Rush. Yeah.
- 33:34Speaker 1: And if you were to watch the season, you would
- 33:36Speaker 1: have understand that.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:38Speaker 1: For me, it is a real issue. Yeah. Other people
- 33:41Speaker 1: think you're lying, but for him, it is a real issue.
- 33:45Speaker 2: But then he says like his allergies are fine at
- 33:48Speaker 2: a distance.
- 33:48Speaker 1: So it's like, I just, how's he get on an airplane?
- 33:55Speaker 2: Exactly. Like he says he just gets, doesn't like her
- 33:59Speaker 2: wearing it. Cause he wants to hug her and, you know,
- 34:01Speaker 2: be close to her. which is not what happened at all.
- 34:04Speaker 2: She had sprayed it in the other room and he
- 34:06Speaker 2: freaked out and had to go outside. But I get
- 34:09Speaker 2: that this is a large studio space. So the air
- 34:12Speaker 2: is a lot more.
- 34:14Speaker 1: And he's got his pillow.
- 34:15Speaker 2: It will be dissipated. It will be dissipated. And he
- 34:17Speaker 2: has his emotional support pillow that you wave around. Yeah.
- 34:21Speaker 2: But yeah, traveling on a plane would be brutal.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Tight. Tight.
- 34:25Speaker 2: People wear such stinky.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Trying to get on the subway. Oh, God. Um, Mito
- 34:31Speaker 1: and Debbie, Mito, one of the top questions we got
- 34:35Speaker 1: for you is, were you really a virgin when you
- 34:38Speaker 1: guys got married? And he goes, yes, it's true, I was.
- 34:42Speaker 1: And Katie goes, Debbie, could you tell? Could you tell
- 34:46Speaker 1: he was a virgin, Debbie? And she goes, yeah, I mean, yeah,
- 34:51Speaker 1: you could tell. There are some things he didn't know.
- 34:53Speaker 1: And Shay goes, I ain't behind it.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, Katie's, like, completely fine now that the heat
- 35:00Speaker 2: is off of her. She's not crying anymore. She is.
- 35:03Speaker 1: It's all gone. Yeah. She's dried right up. I will
- 35:06Speaker 1: tell you that I put on Instagram, I believe it's
- 35:10Speaker 1: a reel that I did that I posted on Sunday night,
- 35:13Speaker 1: and one of my favorite things the whole time is
- 35:15Speaker 1: there's so many looks that Shay and Annabelle give each other. Like,
- 35:19Speaker 1: we're the old people here. We're judging. They're like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- 35:22Speaker 1: It's great. It's great.
- 35:24Speaker 2: So go check that out.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Shay and Annabelle, how have things been with you two?
- 35:29Speaker 1: And he goes, we have our arguments, ups and downs
- 35:32Speaker 1: like everybody, but things have been great, right, babe? And
- 35:34Speaker 1: she says, he's partying a lot less. And he goes,
- 35:37Speaker 1: I'm easing her into it. Okay, let's start the show.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Let's talk about male circumcision. Okay, Edward and Marissa. And
- 35:51Speaker 1: Katie goes, Is anybody here not circumcised? Raise your hand.
- 35:56Speaker 1: Raise your... I was like, Katie, this is not your show.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Quit talking.
- 36:01Speaker 2: No. And because it's about sex, she wants to talk
- 36:04Speaker 2: about it.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:06Speaker 2: And Edward's... I'm a fun party girl.
- 36:08Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about circumcision. And then Edward says.
- 36:10Speaker 2: I'd like to introduce you to a musical called Snipped
- 36:13Speaker 2: the Musical, which is written by yours truly. And you
- 36:17Speaker 2: can learn more about it at snipthemusical.com. You can follow
- 36:21Speaker 2: her on Instagram. Mm hmm. You could give me a
- 36:23Speaker 2: donation and stitches be crazy. Crazy with the K.
- 36:27Speaker 1: Yeah. All that could happen. And that was a great,
- 36:31Speaker 1: great segue. So anyway, there's a lot of talk about it.
- 36:35Speaker 1: And Edward says he got his green card. Now, Rashid
- 36:38Speaker 1: did not go for him.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Interesting. So maybe he does have something against Paula. Maybe
- 36:44Speaker 2: because she's associated with Thomas. Yeah.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Um, ever says I got my green card. It moved
- 36:49Speaker 1: really fast. Um, and now I'm working in a warehouse
- 36:52Speaker 1: doing package delivery and it's okay. And it's great there
- 36:56Speaker 1: because I found a Dominican community and she's like, and
- 36:59Speaker 1: Sean goes, well, that's not going to help with your
- 37:00Speaker 1: English kind of joking. Marissa goes, right. I told him like,
- 37:03Speaker 1: you just go there and get with your Dominican people.
- 37:04Speaker 1: And then like, you're not even trying to learn English.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I was like, his English is pretty good.
- 37:09Speaker 2: It is.
- 37:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:10Speaker 2: It's quite good.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Um, and Marissa goes that, yes, he is working very
- 37:14Speaker 1: hard and very proud of him. My little baby.
- 37:17Speaker 2: He's learning how to build a fence.
- 37:20Speaker 1: And they discuss Marissa's high standards and we get the
- 37:24Speaker 1: fence clip and, you know, her saying.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Okay, I was pissed, honestly, that that was the only
- 37:29Speaker 2: clip that we got. That was ridiculous that that was
- 37:32Speaker 2: the only clip of her being mean that we had.
- 37:35Speaker 2: It should have been a full montage like we got
- 37:38Speaker 2: for the other couples. I felt like, are they trying
- 37:41Speaker 2: to give her a good edit because they want them unhappily?
- 37:44Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought they're going to put them
- 37:47Speaker 2: unhappily and they want her to not be so bitchy
- 37:51Speaker 2: because they should have shown the clips of them walking
- 37:55Speaker 2: around New York, being on the water in New York
- 37:57Speaker 2: and her being so rude about things. And then her
- 38:00Speaker 2: at the restaurant saying, Lord, your voice. Like there were
- 38:04Speaker 2: so many clips criticizing everything he does in the kitchen.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Like stupid. So many. Yeah.
- 38:11Speaker 1: How he made the bed. Fence. What shower he could use.
- 38:14Speaker 1: All of it.
- 38:15Speaker 2: What shower he could use. And that was the first night.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:18Speaker 2: This was, how he sits in the back seat.
- 38:22Speaker 1: He's baby sister in the back, just like me. So, okay.
- 38:28Speaker 1: And we see her talking about the fence and saying
- 38:30Speaker 1: that the, everybody's going to know this is the white
- 38:34Speaker 1: trash house because of the fence, which I kind of
- 38:36Speaker 1: forgot about her saying that. That's pretty bad. I know.
- 38:39Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't a great clip for sure. No.
- 38:41Speaker 2: There were just more that we could have seen.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Shay and Annabelle say she seems very controlling. And Marissa goes,
- 38:48Speaker 1: I know. I said things very mean. And I could
- 38:51Speaker 1: have delivered my messages differently. And Katie goes, yeah, but
- 38:55Speaker 1: like for the fence, like do it competently or like
- 38:57Speaker 1: don't do it at all.
- 39:01Speaker 2: What have you done competently?
- 39:03Speaker 1: Girl.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Making everyone on planet Earth. You are doing a good
- 39:07Speaker 2: job of that.
- 39:08Speaker 1: You didn't even make the aisle wide enough at your
- 39:09Speaker 1: wedding for two people to walk down.
- 39:11Speaker 2: You had to hold your dress to the side and
- 39:13Speaker 2: your dad had to walk in front of you. Like
- 39:16Speaker 2: a bodyguard.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Sean says, you know, and I'm going to tell you something.
- 39:21Speaker 1: I don't know if they gave Sean these questions or
- 39:23Speaker 1: if it offended her so much she came up with
- 39:25Speaker 1: them herself. But I gotta give give it to Sean
- 39:28Speaker 1: here we don't give it I wrote.
- 39:29Speaker 2: In all caps bingo Sean bingo.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Yes Sean says you know you commented on his intelligence
- 39:37Speaker 1: a lot and you said I'm giving him the benefit
- 39:40Speaker 1: of the doubt that he's not an idiot so what
- 39:43Speaker 1: does that mean and she says The challenge is he
- 39:48Speaker 1: does not understand everything I say because of the language barrier.
- 39:53Speaker 1: And so if I want to talk about something deep
- 39:55Speaker 1: and intellectual, it's hard because of the language barrier. Sean says, well,
- 40:00Speaker 1: let me ask you this. If you go to the
- 40:03Speaker 1: Dominican Republic, you're not looked at as someone with a
- 40:06Speaker 1: lower intelligence because you don't speak the language that they're speaking.
- 40:11Speaker 1: So it seems it's different when he's over here. If
- 40:14Speaker 1: there's a language barrier, it's looked at as intelligence. So
- 40:18Speaker 1: how would you explain that difference? Yep. Is it racism?
- 40:24Speaker 2: Yep.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Ooh, I was like, we've never had anybody so flat
- 40:32Speaker 1: out on this show ever just say, girl, you know
- 40:37Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 40:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:39Speaker 1: She could have said, is it because he's younger?
- 40:41Speaker 2: Right.
- 40:43Speaker 1: She said, How do you explain that difference? Yeah. And
- 40:46Speaker 1: she's right.
- 40:47Speaker 2: I mean, how much, Marissa, he speaks two languages. You
- 40:52Speaker 2: speak one.
- 40:53Speaker 1: You speak one.
- 40:54Speaker 2: Right.
- 40:55Speaker 1: So she says, you know, I do think my life
- 40:59Speaker 1: experience has furthered me in my knowledge of things. You know,
- 41:02Speaker 1: I just know more. I'm 13 years older than him.
- 41:07Speaker 1: I do have to explain a lot of things to him.
- 41:11Speaker 2: Then you shouldn't have gotten together with someone 13 years younger.
- 41:13Speaker 1: And Thomas goes, you know, I don't think this is fair.
- 41:17Speaker 1: You're comparing your strengths to his weaknesses. Bingo, Thomas. Very good.
- 41:23Speaker 1: And if it was vice versa, it would be a
- 41:26Speaker 1: different conversation. And everybody's like, yeah. And he goes, actually,
- 41:30Speaker 1: you should thank him because the only reason you even
- 41:32Speaker 1: have a relationship is because he speaks English. I thank
- 41:35Speaker 1: Paula for that every day because my Portuguese is terrible.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay.
- 41:40Speaker 2: He's like, we wouldn't be together if it was based
- 41:43Speaker 2: on my language skills.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Thomas, for the win.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Good job, Thomas.
- 41:49Speaker 1: So Sean says, she's not talking about the language barrier.
- 41:54Speaker 1: She's saying she has more worldly experience.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Sean hates her. Yeah, she hates her. I love it.
- 42:01Speaker 1: And Josh says, again, you know, to me it comes
- 42:05Speaker 1: across as a class thing, like a condescending imbalance. Yep.
- 42:10Speaker 1: And Edward says, yeah, yeah. Yep. And Edward says, and
- 42:14Speaker 1: the thing about relationships is you have to learn about
- 42:17Speaker 1: your partner. And, yes, seeing all that, it was painful.
- 42:22Speaker 2: I do have to give her credit that unlike Katie,
- 42:24Speaker 2: she's not crying to get the heat off of her.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Marissa goes, I don't think because he doesn't speak
- 42:32Speaker 1: English that he's less than me. And Debbie goes, oh. Mm-hmm.
- 42:38Speaker 1: And she says, and I feel horrible, but I was
- 42:40Speaker 1: really stressed and overwhelmed about how different our lives were.
- 42:44Speaker 1: And she goes, let's move on. Let's don't.
- 42:48Speaker 2: I love this.
- 42:49Speaker 1: Let's see.
- 42:50Speaker 2: Do you think you were more stressed or he was
- 42:53Speaker 2: more stressed giving up everything he knows to move to
- 42:56Speaker 2: a foreign country? Which one of you do you think
- 42:58Speaker 2: was more stressed and didn't treat the other person like
- 43:01Speaker 2: crap despite how stressed they were?
- 43:03Speaker 1: Um, And they go, okay, let's move on. Let's talk
- 43:07Speaker 1: about your ex, Michael. And then she grabs him and goes,
- 43:10Speaker 1: let's hold hands for this one. And we see Michael talking,
- 43:15Speaker 1: the clip of Michael talking to Edward in the kitchen
- 43:17Speaker 1: going like, I don't care what goes on over here,
- 43:19Speaker 1: but when it comes to my kids, I won't knock
- 43:21Speaker 1: on the door. I will come in here and I
- 43:23Speaker 1: will bite your face off.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Jesus.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Jesus, Michael. How are things going today with Michael? And
- 43:30Speaker 1: they both say horrible at the same time. She says,
- 43:34Speaker 1: Edward got involved in my son Derek's baseball team and
- 43:37Speaker 1: Michael is the coach.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Oh, that's bad. That's a recipe for disaster.
- 43:43Speaker 1: And Edward was trying to help them warm up and
- 43:45Speaker 1: stuff because he does know a lot about baseball. And
- 43:49Speaker 1: I think that Edward was almost like a semi-pro in
- 43:52Speaker 1: the Dominican for baseball, the way he told it when
- 43:55Speaker 1: he did that ad for that MediSpa that was helping
- 43:58Speaker 1: him get rid of his acne scars. And he said
- 44:00Speaker 1: when he... And then add, he said when he was
- 44:02Speaker 1: growing up in the Dominican, they wanted to put him
- 44:05Speaker 1: on a medication for his acne, but somehow it would
- 44:08Speaker 1: affect his baseball career, probably because he couldn't be outside.
- 44:11Speaker 1: He couldn't be in the sun, probably. Oh, yeah, yeah. Accutane.
- 44:15Speaker 1: And he chose not to do it because he wanted
- 44:18Speaker 1: to further his baseball career, but he ended up with
- 44:20Speaker 1: a lot of acne scars. And so I think he
- 44:23Speaker 1: was really good. Good. And not just like Joe Blow
- 44:28Speaker 1: who paid in high school, you know?
- 44:29Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 44:30Speaker 1: And He did walk up to the mound, and I
- 44:32Speaker 1: was like, okay, no. I agree. Edward should not. He's
- 44:35Speaker 1: not the coach. He should not have walked up to
- 44:37Speaker 1: the mound as a parent. No. And Michael got all mad.
- 44:41Speaker 1: Who do you think they are? I'm the coach. And
- 44:43Speaker 1: he threatened to fist fight him in front of all
- 44:46Speaker 1: the parents and all the children.
- 44:48Speaker 2: That's not, no.
- 44:49Speaker 1: He could have later said, man, you overstepped. I'm the coach.
- 44:53Speaker 1: He could have later just been like, we don't do that.
- 44:55Speaker 1: Don't do that.
- 44:56Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 44:57Speaker 1: And Edward says, yeah, that's an excuse, but I think
- 45:01Speaker 1: he is the definition of completely asshole. And Annabelle goes
- 45:06Speaker 1: like your ex to Shay. He's like, Edward says he's
- 45:11Speaker 1: a narcissist person. Very mean, very controlling, not a nice person.
- 45:16Speaker 1: He's a big problem. I'm scared. I'm scared of Michael. Yeah.
- 45:20Speaker 2: He has a huge anchor problem as Marissa has said.
- 45:24Speaker 1: And, like, he thinks he's going to go over there
- 45:25Speaker 1: and take them out because he wants the kids.
- 45:27Speaker 2: Like, I'm scared.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Somebody get him a girlfriend right away.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 45:31Speaker 1: No, don't get him a girlfriend. What am I saying?
- 45:32Speaker 2: No.
- 45:33Speaker 1: No, don't get him a girlfriend.
- 45:34Speaker 2: No, just make sure his house doesn't have any weapons
- 45:36Speaker 2: in it. Yeah.
- 45:37Speaker 1: I was trying to think if he got a girlfriend,
- 45:39Speaker 1: maybe he would have somebody to love and not be
- 45:43Speaker 1: so mad about this. But I don't want a girlfriend
- 45:44Speaker 1: for him.
- 45:45Speaker 2: I don't think it's about Marissa at all. I think
- 45:47Speaker 2: it's about the kids. Yeah. So... Give him a child?
- 45:50Speaker 1: No, that wouldn't work.
- 45:52Speaker 2: No, a dog? No, I don't want an animal near
- 45:54Speaker 2: him at all. So what's the, a goldfish?
- 45:57Speaker 1: A snake?
- 45:58Speaker 2: Snake, yeah.
- 45:59Speaker 1: And then he would feel big and bad, but he
- 46:01Speaker 1: wouldn't have to interrupt.
- 46:02Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
- 46:03Speaker 1: And a Corvette? Would that help him?
- 46:06Speaker 2: No, I don't know, because he might become more of
- 46:08Speaker 2: a douche.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Oh, okay, all right.
- 46:10Speaker 2: He needs to listen to whatever the opposite of red-pilling
- 46:13Speaker 2: men's podcasts are.
- 46:15Speaker 1: Blue-pilling, okay. So, I don't, I just made that up.
- 46:18Speaker 2: Okay.
- 46:18Speaker 1: Okay. so marissa says yeah edward and i were taking
- 46:22Speaker 1: the kids on a spring break and at around 3 a.m
- 46:25Speaker 1: before we were leaving i got like 20 pages of
- 46:27Speaker 1: these hateful texts and uh can we bring out marissa's
- 46:30Speaker 1: phone can we bring out marissa's phone can you show us.
- 46:32Speaker 2: The text i was like why don't they just have
- 46:34Speaker 2: this stuff at the ready.
- 46:35Speaker 1: Yeah um and it's dramatic effect and yeah edward goes
- 46:40Speaker 1: yes he's crossed the line he's no longer allowed in
- 46:42Speaker 1: our house And she goes, I mean, he doesn't know that,
- 46:46Speaker 1: but I've changed all the codes to the garage and
- 46:48Speaker 1: the door and everything so he can't get in. I
- 46:50Speaker 1: was like, okay. Yeah, I mean, it's bad. He threatened
- 46:54Speaker 1: to punch this guy in front of all the children.
- 46:57Speaker 2: That's crazy. She should try to get custody away from him,
- 47:01Speaker 2: although that would cause some anger issues and could go
- 47:06Speaker 2: really badly.
- 47:07Speaker 1: So we see all the text from Michael, and it says,
- 47:10Speaker 1: and I'm going to use bad words here, everybody. I'm 48.
- 47:13Speaker 1: I will fight that 33-year-old P-word. He's fake as fuck.
- 47:18Speaker 1: You hooked up with the concierge and now he's playing
- 47:20Speaker 1: with my kids. Fuck this motherfucker. You're blinded by his dick.
- 47:25Speaker 2: That's what the blank was at the end. I was like,
- 47:28Speaker 2: what is blinded by his what? His shiny white teeth?
- 47:32Speaker 1: His circumcised penis.
- 47:34Speaker 2: There we go.
- 47:35Speaker 1: Marissa says, yeah, I mean, I think he feels threatened
- 47:38Speaker 1: by Edward's relationship with the boys. our younger, my younger son,
- 47:42Speaker 1: Cole hangs out with them a lot. We all have
- 47:44Speaker 1: a good relationship. You know, Derek is almost a teenager
- 47:47Speaker 1: and it's not great. He'll say like, shut up, Edward.
- 47:49Speaker 1: I don't want your point of view. And everybody's like,
- 47:52Speaker 1: he says, shut up to his stepfather. They're all like, what?
- 47:56Speaker 1: And Thomas says, you know, you're a stepfather now. Do
- 47:58Speaker 1: you feel comfortable disciplining them? And Edward goes, no, you know,
- 48:02Speaker 1: I come from a different country where it's different. And
- 48:05Speaker 1: I understand here. I'm not allowed to say anything about it.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Not yet. It's difficult, but I don't want to cross
- 48:11Speaker 1: the line, which I appreciate, you know?
- 48:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, the way of disciplining he might have learned
- 48:18Speaker 2: in his family might be not appropriate.
- 48:21Speaker 1: For here.
- 48:22Speaker 2: Here. But also, if Marissa is not treating Edward with respect,
- 48:28Speaker 2: the children are not going to learn to treat him
- 48:30Speaker 2: with respect either. Interesting point. If she's talking still to
- 48:35Speaker 2: Edward like crap, the kids are going to mimic that.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Yeah. So then they talk about. So Sean says, Edward,
- 48:46Speaker 1: does it bother you that you won't have kids of
- 48:48Speaker 1: your own or is being a stepdad OK with you?
- 48:52Speaker 1: And he says, well, the situation with Michael makes it
- 48:54Speaker 1: hard to have the relationship I was hoping to have
- 48:56Speaker 1: with the boys. And I love kids. I really have
- 48:59Speaker 1: always wanted kids. And this is a problem. And it's
- 49:02Speaker 1: hard to say goodbye to the idea that you may
- 49:04Speaker 1: have your own kids. I have a wonderful woman. I
- 49:07Speaker 1: have a wonderful life, but I really wanted kids. And
- 49:10Speaker 1: she says, it does break my heart. And I feel
- 49:12Speaker 1: like I took that experience away from him. You would
- 49:15Speaker 1: think I'd be nicer to him. And Marissa says, you know,
- 49:19Speaker 1: I'm 46.
- 49:20Speaker 2: 46.
- 49:20Speaker 1: It would be difficult for me to have kids. I mean,
- 49:22Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't know. I don't know
- 49:25Speaker 1: her fertility journey. But she says, I'm 46. It would
- 49:28Speaker 1: be difficult for me to have kids. And Paula goes, oh,
- 49:31Speaker 1: you go to Brazil. Those treatments are so inexpensive there.
- 49:33Speaker 1: I was like, okay, hot tip.
- 49:35Speaker 2: Hot tip, but she doesn't want to get pregnant. Marissa
- 49:39Speaker 2: has clearly some body issues. Maybe she doesn't have body
- 49:45Speaker 2: image issues, but I doubt she wants to get pregnant.
- 49:48Speaker 1: No, she now owns a Pilates studio, so no. Yeah.
- 49:52Speaker 1: And Marissa goes, and if there are any surrogates out there, like,
- 49:55Speaker 1: hit us up. Kind of joking. And he's like, he
- 49:58Speaker 1: kind of looks at her. And Marissa goes, I mean,
- 50:00Speaker 1: I'm joking, but really that surrogacy is a lot of money.
- 50:03Speaker 1: And if our financial situation gets better, we would consider it.
- 50:06Speaker 1: He's like, oh, my God, I feel like today I
- 50:08Speaker 1: should go out and play the lottery. Like, I've never
- 50:09Speaker 1: heard her say this. And then they both are like,
- 50:14Speaker 1: but we do have to work out the situation with
- 50:15Speaker 1: Michael before anything.
- 50:17Speaker 2: Did she pay Michael, like, child alimony? I wonder because
- 50:24Speaker 2: she probably make a lot, made a lot more than
- 50:27Speaker 2: he did.
- 50:29Speaker 1: At Kleinfeld. So they have to work on the situation
- 50:32Speaker 1: with Michael and she has to work on our patients.
- 50:36Speaker 1: Sean says, and we're not going to solve it today.
- 50:38Speaker 1: We hope your love never changes lunchtime. So let's go
- 50:42Speaker 1: to lunch.
- 50:43Speaker 2: They can adopt a child, like a young child.
- 50:47Speaker 1: But exactly what Shay says as they're walking out. Shay says,
- 50:52Speaker 1: I was hoping I'd get a chance to ask them
- 50:53Speaker 1: about adoption. Like, why not get a baby from the
- 50:56Speaker 1: Dominican and bring it over here? I mean, what a
- 50:59Speaker 1: great solution, Shay.
- 51:01Speaker 2: Yeah, he could bond with his culture and, yeah.
- 51:05Speaker 1: Have a kid that won't tell him to shut up?
- 51:06Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
- 51:08Speaker 2: I mean, I think she might be horrible with the children,
- 51:10Speaker 2: but she seems to be very nice to her own children.
- 51:13Speaker 2: She doesn't talk to them like she talks to Edward.
- 51:15Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
- 51:17Speaker 2: But imagine her micromanaging children. how he was raising a child,
- 51:22Speaker 2: like changing a diaper or feeding a child, whatever. She'd
- 51:27Speaker 2: be like, no, we don't do that, Edward.
- 51:29Speaker 1: Yeah, true. So Josh goes and asks Marissa and Edward
- 51:35Speaker 1: if they think Michael could hurt Edward's immigration status because
- 51:37Speaker 1: he's constantly trying to physically fight with him to get
- 51:40Speaker 1: him like arrested.
- 51:41Speaker 2: That was a really good question, Josh.
- 51:43Speaker 1: And Edward says, yeah, I think that's what he's trying
- 51:45Speaker 1: to do. Marissa says, that's what we think he's trying
- 51:47Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. Wow.
- 51:49Speaker 2: Trying to provoke him into a physical fight so he'll
- 51:53Speaker 2: get deported. That's horrible.
- 51:56Speaker 1: And Shay says, I won't ask them about adoption. So
- 51:59Speaker 1: Rasheed goes and says to Paula, now I will put
- 52:02Speaker 1: perfume on for your husband. And she's eating and she laughs.
- 52:05Speaker 1: She goes, okay, be careful. And she laughs.
- 52:09Speaker 2: She could have stopped this.
- 52:10Speaker 1: But I don't think she really, because he walked by
- 52:13Speaker 1: really fast saying it. Right.
- 52:15Speaker 2: And she thought he was joking.
- 52:16Speaker 1: Salad in her mouth.
- 52:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 52:19Speaker 1: And and then he goes into his goes into Thomas's
- 52:24Speaker 1: dressing room and looks at Edward and goes, watch this.
- 52:28Speaker 1: And Thomas comes out and he goes, hey, and he
- 52:31Speaker 1: grabs him and Thomas is like holding his lunches like, oh,
- 52:33Speaker 1: my God. And Thomas goes, are you fucking kidding me, dude?
- 52:36Speaker 1: Why would you do that on purpose? And he's smiling.
- 52:38Speaker 1: He goes, seriously, that's not funny. And Thomas says, I
- 52:42Speaker 1: was happy to meet you. And now I'm not like, man,
- 52:44Speaker 1: that's annoying. That's annoying, man. Yeah. And talking to Thomas goes,
- 52:48Speaker 1: he forced a hug on me while I was holding
- 52:50Speaker 1: my lunch, and now it's all over my shirt. It
- 52:52Speaker 1: was forceful. Okay, I do not like that guy. So
- 52:56Speaker 1: Rasheed's out there going, this is mental. This is mental.
- 52:59Speaker 1: And they're kind of laughing. And he goes in, sticks
- 53:01Speaker 1: his head in, like, to talk to Thomas. And Thomas goes, no,
- 53:05Speaker 1: get out of here. Like, this is my space. Your
- 53:07Speaker 1: smell is an invasion. Like, you're like, what are you
- 53:09Speaker 1: compensating for, dude? Which is kind of funny. Yeah.
- 53:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Although I don't think people wear perfume because it's
- 53:17Speaker 2: not like a sports car that, you know, I don't
- 53:23Speaker 2: think people wear cologne. I don't know if men wear cologne.
- 53:27Speaker 2: I don't think men wear cologne to compensate for things.
- 53:30Speaker 2: I think if anything, they're doing the opposite. Now they're
- 53:34Speaker 2: doing that look, that pheromone maxing.
- 53:39Speaker 1: My friend, Mary's daughter, Grace, who is like my daughter,
- 53:43Speaker 1: you know, was in Jupiter, Florida for something, visiting a friend,
- 53:50Speaker 1: and met that clavicular guy at a bar. Do you
- 53:55Speaker 1: know that clavicular guy? No. He's created the looks maxing movie.
- 54:00Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I've heard about him. I wouldn't recognize him. No,
- 54:06Speaker 2: I wouldn't either.
- 54:07Speaker 1: And they took a picture with him, and I immediately
- 54:10Speaker 1: sent it to John and Anna. And they were like,
- 54:14Speaker 1: no fucking way. Oh, my God. How did Grace meet
- 54:19Speaker 1: that fucking loser? And then I told Grace, I just
- 54:22Speaker 1: sent that picture to John. And she goes, oh, no,
- 54:24Speaker 1: I'm going to get canceled by my friends. Anyway, he's
- 54:30Speaker 1: a nightmare. But anyway, so Rasheed sticks his head back in.
- 54:35Speaker 1: He's like, no, get out of here. And Rasheed goes,
- 54:37Speaker 1: you're ridiculous. You're a dickhead. I was like. Rasheed, you're
- 54:42Speaker 1: the dickhead. Why'd you do that?
- 54:44Speaker 2: Yeah, you are the dickhead. I mean, we got into
- 54:47Speaker 2: a tiff with Kyle from Cray Cray, 90 Day Cray Cray.
- 54:52Speaker 2: That's what it's called, right? I feel like it was
- 54:54Speaker 2: like at some point they were going to change it
- 54:56Speaker 2: to just Cray.
- 54:57Speaker 1: Cray or something. It's 90 Day Fiance Cray Cray.
- 54:59Speaker 2: 90 Day Fiance Cray Cray. Because he said he was
- 55:04Speaker 2: totally Team Thomas after this. And I said... No way.
- 55:09Speaker 2: I don't know. And he said, after you watch it.
- 55:11Speaker 1: Come back.
- 55:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:14Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm totally teen Thomas, but I
- 55:16Speaker 1: do not. This was not necessary.
- 55:19Speaker 2: This is not cool. It was not cool. It was
- 55:22Speaker 2: douchey and it went too far. Thomas is also a
- 55:26Speaker 2: baby and could have handled this way better.
- 55:29Speaker 1: He did. But if she doesn't need to call him
- 55:31Speaker 1: a dickhead, like he's not a dickhead, he's a dickhead
- 55:33Speaker 1: because you provoked him, you know?
- 55:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:36Speaker 1: So Mito goes over and it's like, Hello, how are you?
- 55:39Speaker 1: He's like, hey, stay back from me. I know what
- 55:42Speaker 1: you're doing.
- 55:44Speaker 2: Thomas is backing himself into a corner like he is
- 55:48Speaker 2: in an armed robbery and someone is pointing a gun
- 55:51Speaker 2: at him. He is backing into the curtain and there's no,
- 55:55Speaker 2: it's like he's going to fall through the curtain because
- 55:57Speaker 2: he's just so scared.
- 55:57Speaker 1: Paul is like, hey, hey, hey, it's okay. He's coming
- 56:00Speaker 1: to say hi. No one's testing you. Just calm down.
- 56:04Speaker 1: Thomas is like, I don't like his look.
- 56:06Speaker 2: Ooh. So, um, and Mito's like trying to fist bump
- 56:09Speaker 2: him and he's like, no, no, I won't touch you. No.
- 56:13Speaker 1: Um, so Asha says, some people do have a reaction.
- 56:18Speaker 1: I had a coworker like that. You know, he did,
- 56:20Speaker 1: he could get him in lotions or anything. Now he
- 56:23Speaker 1: could be overreacting or he could have pretreated himself with
- 56:27Speaker 1: some Benadryl or some Zyrtec. I am a pharmacist. I
- 56:31Speaker 1: have all of these things. Um, And Paula and Thomas
- 56:36Speaker 1: are walking because I guess they had to go to
- 56:37Speaker 1: a different section and had to walk. Yeah. It's like, yeah.
- 56:41Speaker 1: And Paula and Thomas, she says to him, she goes,
- 56:43Speaker 1: I know you're right, but just don't scream at people, please.
- 56:46Speaker 1: He goes, you should just say that. I know you're right.
- 56:49Speaker 2: Thomas is right. Just say to everybody, Thomas is right.
- 56:54Speaker 1: And then Katie sits down to Mallory. She wants Mallory
- 56:58Speaker 1: to be her best friend so bad. She's like young
- 57:01Speaker 1: girls that like to fuck. Right. Am I right? she
- 57:04Speaker 1: sits down to Mallory and goes, he's nuts. And Mallory goes, who?
- 57:09Speaker 1: And she goes, that one, the one fighting with your,
- 57:11Speaker 1: your man, that guy.
- 57:13Speaker 2: Did she not watch the show and learn these people's names?
- 57:18Speaker 1: And Mallory goes, Oh, Tom.
- 57:19Speaker 2: Oh, she just laughs like, okay. She's like, I want
- 57:23Speaker 2: to keep Katie on my side, but like, I don't
- 57:26Speaker 2: want to give her the impression that we are going
- 57:28Speaker 2: to be sisters now because we are keeping, she's at
- 57:31Speaker 2: an arm's length. Yeah.
- 57:33Speaker 1: And the talking head, Katie, goes, Thomas is gross. He's
- 57:37Speaker 1: like an old man, man, man child. I would not
- 57:41Speaker 1: make out with him. I mean, I would. I'd have
- 57:43Speaker 1: to be shit-faced.
- 57:45Speaker 2: So later tonight?
- 57:48Speaker 1: So Sean comes back in, and this is where I
- 57:50Speaker 1: stop my notes.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 57:52Speaker 1: Okay.
- 57:52Speaker 2: You were past me. I had all of that, but
- 57:56Speaker 2: that's fine.
- 57:56Speaker 1: Okay, good.
- 57:57Speaker 2: And we did it.
- 57:57Speaker 1: We kind of did it.
- 57:59Speaker 2: There was one part where Mallory or Paul is like,
- 58:01Speaker 2: normal people wear perfume, Thomas. And he goes, but they're
- 58:05Speaker 2: testing me. They're testing me. And she's like, no one's
- 58:08Speaker 2: testing you.
- 58:09Speaker 1: No one's testing you. Just relax.
- 58:12Speaker 2: And he goes, I'm sorry, Mito. I'm on edge.
- 58:15Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 58:15Speaker 2: This is how he's talking. We can tell. Calm down.
- 58:18Speaker 1: We can tell.
- 58:19Speaker 2: So Sean comes out and she's like, she comes and
- 58:23Speaker 2: walks to her seat and Rosh goes, you look like
- 58:26Speaker 2: an angel. He's obsessed with her. I'm telling you, you
- 58:30Speaker 2: have a stalker, Sean. I'm sure you have a lot
- 58:32Speaker 2: of stalkers, but you have a new one. So Mallory
- 58:37Speaker 2: needs to put a GPS on Rosh because he's going
- 58:41Speaker 2: to follow her around like a new cult leader. Like,
- 58:43Speaker 2: tell me your secrets. Tell me your wisdom, Sean Robinson.
- 58:46Speaker 2: How do you look so young?
- 58:49Speaker 1: If you find out, let us know too. Exactly. Exactly.
- 58:51Speaker 2: So Sean says, Thomas, I noticed you're wearing a different shirt.
- 58:55Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, do you like it? I got
- 58:57Speaker 2: into an encounter with Rashid. And Rashid goes, mother effer,
- 59:03Speaker 2: under his breath. And I was like, okay, he should
- 59:06Speaker 2: be that mad at you. You were this mad at him. Yeah.
- 59:10Speaker 2: Edward starts laughing and Mallory says, I just don't think
- 59:13Speaker 2: it's that serious and you shouldn't have reacted the way
- 59:15Speaker 2: you did, Thomas. And Thomas goes, well, the fact that
- 59:18Speaker 2: he told me he was going to prank me and
- 59:20Speaker 2: then he did this, it's just so suspicious. Because he,
- 59:26Speaker 2: because Rosh is still pretending like he didn't spray himself
- 59:29Speaker 2: with perfume and it was just a genuine prank. bro
- 59:33Speaker 2: hug and not a prank and thomas is like it's
- 59:37Speaker 2: just very suspicious it's like so obvious that he it
- 59:41Speaker 2: was a prank but thomas is still like i'm suspicious
- 59:44Speaker 2: that i think it was a prank it's it it
- 59:47Speaker 2: was he said it was a prank watch this yeah
- 59:50Speaker 2: yeah that's so so marissa says you just had a
- 59:53Speaker 2: very strong reaction and we're screaming like i don't like
- 59:56Speaker 2: you to him and it was just over the top
- 59:58Speaker 2: And Rosh stands up and is like, you were screaming
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: at me like this. Like, I don't like you. Well, bro,
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: I don't need you to like me. And Sean says, okay, well,
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: we're not going to solve this today. So we're going
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: to move on. We wish you and your allergies the
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: best of luck, Thomas. So we move on to Shay
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: and Annabelle. And Annabelle says she's enjoying Kentucky. They eat
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: at a lot of restaurants, including Filipino food, which who knew? And, um,
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: Shay says, yeah, she doesn't like to be alone that
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: much still, but she's getting better with that. And Josh
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: asks if she's met new people besides his friend group.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: And she says, Josh is very good with the people,
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: the other immigrants here. He like wants to know how
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: they're doing. Yeah. So he's like, have you found people
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: besides his lake slutty friends that are wasted all the time? And, um,
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: think that he's hot and we'll buy them things. And
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I've met some new Filipino friends, even
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: in Kentucky. And that's amazing. And, and while he's at
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: work during the day, I clean and I keep myself busy.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: And I was like, are you cleaning other people's ball
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: sacks or are you cleaning the apartment? Are you cleaning
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: for other people? What are you, I don't know what
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: you're cleaning, but I.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: Don't know what she's cleaning is. She's just cleaning his
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: house and she goes to the lake and cleans that house.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: And then she goes over to Alison's clean.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: She does love to clean. The woman loves to scrub.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: So Sean says, on the topic of cleaning, some people's
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: sex life could be described as dirty. But when it
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: comes to Shay and Annabelle, it's more about getting clean.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: And dear God, they are going to show us the
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: bathtub scene and a.k.a. Annabelle earning that life insurance payout.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: So she is talking about cleaning his penis because she
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: doesn't like when his penis smells bad and his balls
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: and his eggs and cleaning his. And then she, as
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: we've seen before, cleans his downstairs area and then his
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: face with the same washcloth.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: Stop. Now you see a second. I don't understand a washcloth,
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: but that's a story for another time.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: Washcloths are gross.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: I don't understand a washcloth.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: Germ factories. Yeah. So I think unless you're like washing
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: it each time, I don't get it. So Shay says
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: that she doesn't. She doesn't give me as many scrub
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: downs as she used to, like being in the tub
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: with me anymore. But what she does is she stands
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: outside and she directs me into the areas that I
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: need to clean. Like, could you clean that? Could you
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: clean your ball sack, babe? And then maybe do your balls,
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: your eggs, babe. And then do the underside of your penis.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Now do the top side of your penis.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: That is hilarious. Can you imagine taking a shower with
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: somebody standing up with a pointer? Oh, a gnat is
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: in here. It's driving me crazy. Oh, my God. It's
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: a fruit blind.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: I see it.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. It's a gnat. It came from that door,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: but I have to leave it open for the light. Okay,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: I'll just keep swatting. Go ahead.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not distracting at all.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: I'm going to get it.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: Don't worry.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: I'm going to get it. I'm waiting for it.
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: I feel like she's drawing him a diagram, Shay, and
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: being like, first you go here, and then you work
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: downwards on your body, or however the area she wants
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: him to hit. It's all the scent zones and... The pits. So.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: Pits and ditch.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: So.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: Pits and ditch. He goes pits, tits, and ditch. So
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: Sean asks, by a show of hands, how many of
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: the men here would love to be scrubbed down by
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: their wives? And Rosh does not raise his hand. And
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: Mallory says, I'm surprised you didn't raise your hand. And
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: he goes, no, not like this way.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: He goes, I like a Turkish bath where a man.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Gives me a happy ending. I don't, I don't want
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: you to do it.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want you to do it. And all
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: the men generally say no. Like most of them, I
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: think somebody raised his hand, but most of the guys
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: are saying no way. So then Alison comes on and
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: Annabelle is not smiling and we know things have changed
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: and she's rolling her eyes. And Alison says, Annabelle is
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: great with my kids. And I, love that about her,
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: but we still have our issues. And I think her
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: demeanor is rude. And I think she does not try
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: to adjust to our life enough and she's not getting
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: drunk at the lake. And, um, and she's, when I
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: go over there, she's usually on her phone and not
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: engaging with me and making an effort. And Annabelle goes,
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: she's very cruel to me now and to Shay. And, um,
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: Then we see a montage of Annabelle and Alison fighting,
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: which is like five scenes long, which is what we
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: should have gotten on Mallory being a bitch.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: No, Marissa being a bitch to Edward.
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: Sorry, Marissa being a bitch. Yes. Yes.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: Agree.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: So she says, I think there's still some animosity. Shay says,
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: I think there's still some animosity because Alison is trying
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: to be the queen bee babe. And she doesn't want
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: to give up that title, babe. But, um, She's not
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: the queen. Is Annabelle here now? And Allison says, I mean,
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: he should put his wife first, but I'm right behind her.
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: Fuck the other daughters.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Yes. The two other daughters.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: Right. So I think they're, I think they actually still
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: like each other and they're going for happily.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: Like I did a thing in her car where she
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: was like, this is TV, everybody. And actually I really
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: like Annabelle and keep watching, you know, that kind of thing.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: People get really mid-season before they let it play. People
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: get on these shows, like the secondary characters, get real
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: antsy to tell their side of the story.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Like, it's just me.
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: I'm really not a horrible person. You see it happen
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: every season. They get real like, I got a bad edit.
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: I'm really a cool person. I'm in my car.
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Like Jordan and... Yes.
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mark and Mina's daughter, Jordan.
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: Mina.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: She was like, I really do like Mina. You have
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: to watch the whole season. Yeah.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: And they didn't get it happily, which we could have
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: gotten a whole season of her crying over not being
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: able to bring her poor little son over here.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: He's still not here. He's just floundering in Paris with
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: his aunt. Maybe they'll do a happily when it happens.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: That would be a good thing to see.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: So, Sean brings up Nicole. And he, you know, do
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: you still talk to Nicole? And Shay says, well, I
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: only talk to Nicole when she needs money and I
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: tend to want to give her money, babe. I mean, sorry, Sean. Sean,
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: I called you babe. I'm so sorry. And so now
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: we bring on Nicole. And Nicole, I'm not a fan
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: of her look. I think it's a little trashy. And
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: I think her tattoo on her arm, the rose, the
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: flower is so it's colored in a way with this
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: like light red pink that makes it look from afar
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: like she has a terrible burn on her arm.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: I think it looks like blood dripping off. Yeah.
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: I just think it should either be like darker or
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: a different color or something. Yeah. Anyway.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: Anyway. Whatever.
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: It's her look as long as she's happy.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: But the podcast chat had a, which I'll tell you
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: guys something. We talk about the podcast chat a lot.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: And something funny is that Kyle changed the name of
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: it to 90 Day Fucking Maniacs. He changed it to that.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: And then he changed it back to podcast chat because
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: every time he would pull it up on his Apple CarPlay,
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: it would say 90 Day Fucking Maniacs.
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Yes. Yeah. And he has kids.
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: And he has little kids. So I was like, well,
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: you're the one that did that. Yeah. But here's the thing.
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: On her shoulder, there's a tattoo that we were discussing
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: in our group. I thought it said trash.
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: But then I was like, maybe it says faith. And
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: then I was like, maybe it says Trump. Like, I
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: could not tell what it said, but I do think
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: it says trash.
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: I thought it said farsh. I was like, I don't
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: even know.
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: You're like, it says Ferb. I go, maybe she's a
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: fan of one shoulder says Phineas. The other one says Ferb.
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: But to me, it looks like T-R-A-S-H. And then I
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: came to a separate conclusion after Trash that it said,
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: not Faith, but I'm going to look really quick. Because
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: you guys, you should go back and look at it
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: because it is such a topic of discussion.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: It's just extremely poorly done. And so the ink is bleeding.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: I don't know anything about tattoos, but it's in cursive
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: and the ink is bleeding together. So it just looks
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: like a blob.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: Yes. So that's okay. Podcast chat. Okay.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: It also could be that you took a picture on
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: the screen. and then we're zooming in a lot.
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: Chris says, Chris Ferris says, it says trash, right? And
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: then Kyle says, I see a T and what appears
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: to be a lunar landing module. Yeah. And then I said,
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: maybe it says truth. It could say truth.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: It could say truth. Yeah.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: I'm going with trash.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: Go ahead. So then we got to take her word
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: for all of this. If it says truth, because she
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: has a tattooed on her. So we know that she's
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: a fan of the truth. So she says that the
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: second she sits down, Annabelle goes, why are you here, Nicole?
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: And they paid for my flight to come to New York.
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm here to tell you that Shay is not
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: a faithful man and I can show you proof. And
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: I want you to know that. And Sean says, Annabelle,
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: don't you want to hear what Nicole has to say?
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: And she says, no, before I got to America, Shay's
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: friends told me about Nicole's character. And Shay says, Nicole's vindictive, babe.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: And she just may bend the truth to get back
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: at you. And that's just her personality, babe. And Nicole says, no,
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: I will not be portrayed as the crazy ex who
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: is out for revenge. And that's Shay's MO is to
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: point at me and say, oh, look at my crazy ex.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: It's not I'm not crazy. That's just he's painting me
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: that way. And Allison says, Nicole, you are crazy and
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: you're part of the problem.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: Like she's like, he doesn't have to paint you that
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: way because you are that way.
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: You are that way. So then we see a clip
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: of Nicole telling Shay, Annabelle needs to know what you're
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: doing out here. And Shay says, well, I'm not going
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: to cheat while she's here. Essentially, like I'm going to
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: just that she's not here right now, babe. And Nicole says,
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: why is it OK how you're acting when she's not here? Like,
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: why is that OK? I was in bed with you
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: and you were on the phone with Annabelle saying, I
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: love you. And so Annabelle is seeing this clip. She
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: starts crying. And Debbie says, Shay, you are not being
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: honorable to your wife. And it's very hard to be
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: live thousands of miles away and not, you know, know
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: that your husband, your partner's being loyal. And you're still
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: dancing around the issue. And Shay goes, no, I mean,
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: me crossing the line and her crossing the line, her
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: definition of crossing the line. There are two different things.
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: There are many lines that are being crossed, but we
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: disagree on what crossing the line is, babe. And Mallory says,
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: did you feel like it was okay because she wasn't
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: physically here? So it was okay to do what you wanted.
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: And Shay goes, well, maybe I did cross some lines
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: and I kind of convinced myself that I didn't cross
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: some lines. And I was crossing a line. Like I
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: wasn't crossing a line. Like it would break us up.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: Like it wasn't that bad, but I was crossing a line.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: And I'm like, I do have regrets about it, babe.
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: He says crossing the line so many different times.
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: And Annabelle is crying. And Nicole says, I have text
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: messages and audio recordings of him saying that he's going
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: to keep these naughty pictures of me and hide them
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: from you, Annabelle. So we bring out Nicole's phone. And
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Allison says.
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: Can we get Nicole's phone? Can we get Nicole's phone?
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: Trade out Marissa's phone for Nicole's phone. Thank you.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: Do they have to like run to the other studio
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: where their dressing rooms are? Or do they have all
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: of their phones lined up on the side of the
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: stage with labels? So the second Sean needs a phone,
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: we just run it out there. So and they're all
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: on silent. I hope no one's going to ring and
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: cause a distraction. So Allison says, Nicole, this is shady
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: because you could have shown her this at an appropriate time,
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: like before she came to America. But you waited until
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: she got here and now they're married. And now you're
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: showing her these messages. You're you're messy. You were cheating
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: with my dad when he was with my mom. That's
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: why she hates Nicole. You are not a girl's girl
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: like you are claiming to be. And if you knew
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: he was with Annabelle, then why were you hooking up
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: with him anyway? Right. And you're being messy because you're
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: jealous of them.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: And also, why are you hooking up with him?
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: Why is everyone jealous over Shay?
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: So smelly penis. So she plays the phone call, which
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: is the two of them joking around. And he's like,
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: she says, you should delete that photo. And he's like, no,
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: I'm going to keep this photo of you in lingerie.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: Like I'm going to keep it until I get to
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: see you wear it in person. And I'm going to
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: keep it for like 10 years. And then I'm going
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: to bring it out at 10 years and be like, look,
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: I still have this photo. And Katie goes, I think
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: that's fine. And everyone laughs because she's like, of course,
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: Katie thinks this is all fine.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: And Annabelle's getting upset. And Allison says, You can't control
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: what someone sends you. She's trying to defend her dad.
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: He can't control if Nicole sent him photos of her
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: in lingerie. Okay, Allison. She's like, if I flash all
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: of you right now, you couldn't control that.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: Okay, don't though, please.
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: But he could have deleted it. And you hear him
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: on the phone call saying, I'm going to keep it
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: until I see you wearing it in person.
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. So Sean says, but Allison, you have admitted that
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: your dad is a cheater. And he goes and she says, yeah,
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't want my man to be talking
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: to someone like that. And no, but Nicole, it's your fault,
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: because why would you record something like that? And she
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: keeps trying to flip it on Nicole.
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: And Nicole says, because I took me a two party
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: consent state.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: There we go.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. He's got a lawsuit on
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: his hands there.
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: And Nicole says, look, I knew how all of you
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: would make me look because you always try to paint
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: me as being crazy. So I had to record it.
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: And this is my proof. And, and Debbie, I think
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: Debbie or Asia that Debbie's like, yep, that she needed proof.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: That's her proof. And Debbie says, if Nicole is vindictive
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: and manipulative, Shay, why are you opening yourself up to her?
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: Like spending time with her and opening yourself up to
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: be manipulated. And he goes, well, she calls me all
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: the time asking for help. And I have a problem
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: saying no to her, babe. And Marissa says, Nicole, maybe
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: you're jealous not of being with Shay romantically, but you're
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: jealous of the life that Annabelle has. Like he fixes
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: stuff for her and pays for things. And Nicole says, no,
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: absolutely not. I mean, it's not a secret that he's
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: helped me financially, but he's also the father of one
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: of my children. So it's the least that he could do.
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: And how many children does she have and how many
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: people are they with? So no judgment. Then Nicole reads
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: a text, which is they went out to eat her
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: and Shay. Nothing happened. They just went out to lunch.
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: And the next day he wrote her and was like,
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: Annabelle knows something's up. This is before Annabelle came to America.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: And Shay's like, Annabelle knows something's up. And Nicole says,
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: but you didn't sleep with me, though. And Shay says,
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: she's a damn mess. I wish I would have now.
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: I think his whole thing is, I got caught and
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: I'm being accused of something.
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: I'm in trouble.
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: So I should have done it.
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: I'm in trouble for sleeping with you, even though I didn't.
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: So I might as well have slept with you.
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: I may as well have done it. Right, right.
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's not cool. And he calls her a
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: damn mess. No, no, no.
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: So.
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: Shay says, well, I'm not saying she's lying, but I
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: don't remember those texts. I don't remember that, babe. And
- 1:16:19Speaker 2: Nicole's always bothering me. Like, are you going to go
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: to the lake? You want to hang out, babe? You
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: want to hang out at the lake, babe? And Nicole says,
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: what are you talking about? It's the other way around.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: You're always hitting me up. It's not me. And Shay says, well,
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: I was appeasing her. Like, I knew I wasn't going
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: to cross the line because we talked about crossing the line.
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: And my definition of crossing the line is a different
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: way than your day, babe, babe, babe lines. And, um,
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: but so I was appeasing her and Nicole says, appeasing me.
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I never made advances towards
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: you at all. And, but you did wind up in
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: bed with him like several times. So you were seduced
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: by him several times. And Sean asked Annabelle, can you
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: trust Shay? And she says, yes, now we are married
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: and I live here. So I keep tabs on him
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: and his stinky penis. And, um, so I trust him now.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: I think she's like, when I wasn't here, it was
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: don't ask, don't tell. And as long as this information
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: did not come to me, okay. I don't want it
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: to come to me because I don't want to know.
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: I really think that was her understanding.
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: But people wanted to let her know, you know?
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. And then we thank Allison and Nicole and... We
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: didn't solve it today. Goodbye. We didn't solve anything today.
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: Thank you. So we could all use a break. And
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: then Rosh runs up to Sean. Ma'am, ma'am, how old
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: are you?
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: And she says.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: What?
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: She is terrified. She's in her chair. She's looking at
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: her card. She's like, hello? Hello?
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: What? Why are you leaning over?
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: What?
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: And Mallory says, I'm sorry. He always does this. And
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: Sean says, I'm 63. And Rosh says, what do you eat?
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: What is your secret? Tell me.
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: She was not entertaining that at all.
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: She goes, well, how old are you? And he says, 29.
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: And she goes, Oh, 29. That's great. And he says,
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: I look older, right? And she says, no, you look good. Please,
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: this is my one break of the day when I'm
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: supposed to be. You're not supposed to talk to me
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: in between shooting.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: I was interested. I was fascinated by how she handled that.
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: She didn't want to say, it's good clean living.
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: I eat a lot of vegetables.
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: She was like, get out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: She's also trying to study her cards because she doesn't
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: watch the season. And she watches just clips, I think.
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: And so she is just trying to get prepared. And
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: she's like, I can't. And people press people. her that
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: all the time. I know.
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: She did seem like I get it daily.
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: Yeah. But it is like this man from Turkey who
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: bounds up to you like a puppy dog and is
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: like so excited. I think I felt like she could
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: have been a little more like entertained by it.
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: I did too.
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: She wasn't. She wasn't. So, okay.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: Oh, God.
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: We're going to Katie and Josh. Here come the waterworks.
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: Oh, boy. And Sean says, it's going to be really interesting.
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah.
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: Let's talk about mental illness, everybody. And addiction.
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: Great.
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: First of all, do you still have that old mattress?
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: And no, we gave it a funeral, and now we
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: have a full. So we've gone up one step. It's
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: still too small, but better. Josh got his green card
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: after nine months, but he's not working or earning income.
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: But I have a few things that I've been thinking about,
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: like graphic design or web design. I'm really thinking about journalism.
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: I think I could be a journalist. You could just
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: be a journalist in America. I think he means influencer
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: because you have to go to school to be like
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: a real journalist. Yeah.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: And you're just going to start a new career in journalism.
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: You've taken no schooling for it. Like, what are you
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah.
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: And so Katie says, I don't believe you're ever going
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: to make money because I've never seen you make money.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: Sounds like he just has money and can and just
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: be on a whim and do what he wants. And
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: they're trying to say he's got this family money.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: Well, he has this family.
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: So she says he spends a lot like he spent
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars on an office space. And so there
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: are business expenses. But where is the business? Which is funny.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: But he has a chunk of savings from relatives that
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: were rich. And I also think they sold like the
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: family company that he worked for. So I think he
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: got some money there. So he's paying for this office space.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: but she's still mad about it.
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: Her account.
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: It is ridiculous that he needs an $ 800 office space. Yeah.
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: Go to WeWork.
- 1:21:05Speaker 2: Go to a Starbucks or something.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: So Sean asked Josh why he needs a separate office space.
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: And he says, well, it's Katie. So I need to
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: get away. And she's like, oh, great. That's nice. Like,
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: is that really why? And he's like, yes. And he says,
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: we talk. when we talk about my work, your input
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: is destructive. And she says, well, I don't think journalism
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: is a career. It's a hobby. And he says, that's
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: my point. You say things like that. And you are
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: inflexible as a person and you've made up, made your
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: mind up about my career. Plus we live in a
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: studio apartment and you do pet sitting and I don't
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: want to work with four huge dogs around me. So
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: she pets it's at home in a studio with big dogs.
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: That makes sense. Totally. So she says, well, you need
- 1:21:58Speaker 2: to be hustling to make money. You promised me that
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: you'd be making money. And he says, oh, we're talking
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: about promises now. And she says, stop. Stop.
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: I don't like this. Stop it.
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: And he says, you act like my career stuff is unimportant.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: And I have to deal with your drunkenness.
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: So we bring out two of Katie's friends so we
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: can deal with her drunkenness. And Thomas looks at Paula
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: and grabs her leg like he is so excited. He's like.
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: It's happening.
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: It's happening.
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: That is the most relatable I have ever found him.
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: I was also very excited. And it is Danica and Ryan,
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: exactly who we could have hoped it would be. And
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: they both made out with Katie, so it's perfect.
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: Yes. So.
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: Danica says, yeah, certain things have been concerning to me.
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: Like when Katie has complained that being married is boring
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: and Josh never seems to be around. And Ryan says, Josh,
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: do you like enjoy spending time with Katie around the house, cooking,
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: having dinner together, watching TV? Like, do you enjoy day
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: to day moments with Katie? And Josh says, I do
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: think we've lost a lot of spark and it's been
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: very routine. And I guess the answer is no, but
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: it's not what I want. And Marissa says, I like
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: you guys individually, but I don't see a true couple,
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: like a loving, touching, kissing couple. Like I am touching
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: Edward's uncircumcised penis. I mean, circumcised penis right now. And
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: you guys seem to just not like they're sitting so
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: far apart on the couch, Katie and Josh. And Katie says,
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: there's a connection problem between you. And Katie says, I
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: do agree. We operate separately. And we see a montage
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: then of Katie at the bar trying to kiss everyone forcibly.
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: It's awful.
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: It's all from that one night, too. It's not even
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: like a montage of several parties. It's all from one night.
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: And Katie is laughing in embarrassment. watching like she's.
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: Leaning on him like huddled with him like isn't this
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: a funny couple moment.
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: That we share this is so funny can i cuddle
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: with you josh oh my god this is so hard
- 1:24:18Speaker 2: to watch because she laughs when she's awkward or embarrassed
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: and um ryan is laughing too watching him get groped
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: by her and josh is watching like i had not
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: seen that part before like he's just shocked everyone is
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: just in shock after and no one can believe it.
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: And Katie is like, I look crazy. Oh my God.
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: It's so sad that everyone has to see that. And
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: Josh is watching. It goes watching that. I feel disappointed.
- 1:24:54Speaker 2: And Katie is laughing. And I, and she goes, I'm
- 1:24:59Speaker 2: stressed laughing. And he goes, can I finish? And he says,
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: You see that that is toxic, right? And Asha says,
- 1:25:08Speaker 2: that is horrible. She's with a whole other man. And
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: that whole other man has to push her away with
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: his whole other hand and away from his whole other
- 1:25:16Speaker 2: face and telling her to stop more than once before
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: she stops. And you're not mature.
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: They filmed this tell-all before that had aired.
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: And that was pretty early in the season.
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: Yeah, because Josh and Katie are both like, we haven't
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: seen this. And Asha obviously hadn't seen it either.
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: They were, everyone was shocked. Yeah, everyone was shocked. So,
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: but they already thought Katie had a drinking problem before
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: they had seen that episode, that means. Because she had
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: talked about how she.
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: Likes to make out with other people, but we hadn't
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: seen it in action.
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: We hadn't seen it yet. And so Asha says, I
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: just don't think you're mature enough to be married, in
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: my opinion. The blood, the blood, the blood. And Maxwell says,
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: you need to respect your husband. And that's like the
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: only thing he said the whole time, except telling Asha
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: she looked good. He's the only one that's on the screen.
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: Sweet Maxwell.
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: And I'm glad she didn't make him put that wig on.
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: I know. God bless.
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: So.
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: Debbie says she has the immaturity. I agree with you, Asha,
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: but she also has insecurity. See what I did there?
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: It's a play on words. Immaturity and insecurity. And then
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: Katie instantly starts crying again. Face scrunched up to her
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: eyes closed. Just so scrunched. And Debbie says, she needs
- 1:26:37Speaker 2: a firm hand. Josh, you are way too laid back.
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: You need to put your foot down and say, you
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: are not doing this to me. And Josh says, look,
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: if someone doesn't want to change, I can say anything
- 1:26:48Speaker 2: and it's not going to make them change. And Debbie says,
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: but there are no consequences for her actions. And this
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: behavior is only going to escalate if there are no consequences. Right.
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: And Sean says, has this behavior continued after you've gotten married?
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: And Katie says, Yeah, I had a party with my
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: run club and I was making out with a guy
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: on the roof of our apartment building and Josh saw me.
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: And Danica says, so Katie had said she was inviting
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: these new friends from another run club. And there was
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: this guy and she told me, that's my crush. And
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: I was like, that's your crush. And she says, well,
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: Katie loves the pursuit of a crush. And, and Sean says,
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: did you find that weird that your married friend is
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: saying she has a crush on somebody and she's been
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: married for like a month. And Danica goes, Danica goes,
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: I didn't find it that weird because it's Katie. So no.
- 1:27:48Speaker 2: And Debbie says, wow, where are her friends? Cause she's like,
- 1:27:53Speaker 2: She's like, these people appear to hate her. And does
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: she have good friends? Does she have friends she doesn't
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: try to make out with? She's very confused. We all are.
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Josh says to Katie, you said that he
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: was your crush? And she says, I don't remember that. Sorry.
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: Because of course he doesn't. That does sound like something
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: I would say.
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: It says, I probably did. I was really wasted. So
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: Danica says, I saw her make out with this guy downstairs.
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: And then again, I saw her make out with him
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: on the roof. And I grabbed Katie and I said,
- 1:28:25Speaker 2: you're done. And Katie grabbed a bottle of champagne and
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: started chugging it. And Danica said, no, you're done. And
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: I took the bottle away.
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: And Katie laughed. She was like, I'm so, that does
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: sound like something I would do.
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: What are you getting out of this relationship, Dana? What
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: do you get out of this friendship besides getting to
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: be on TLC?
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: She just has to deal with her crazy friends. And
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: when you're in your 20s, you do have a friend
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: that eventually you grow up and you're like, like exactly
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: what you're saying. You do grow up and you're like,
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: what am I doing?
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: This is not surfing me. What am I getting out
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: of this?
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: This person does not care about me. I'm just there
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: as a sounding board for them. It's not a two
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: way friendship.
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: Yeah. And every time we go out together, it's my
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: job to be the chaperone and make sure they don't
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: get attacked by someone because they went home with someone.
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: And like, that's not fun. Like, and they're good. They're 27,
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: but they're still like, that's, You're 27. Like you're not 21.
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: Pull it together.
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: So Josh says, we just got married. So who's the
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: winner in this? Like, and Katie says, why don't you
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: just dump me? And Josh says, because I love what
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: I see in you. And Katie says, I've been waiting
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: for you to dump me forever. And no one stops.
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: Now she's reverse psychology him and trying to be as
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: mean as she can.
- 1:29:50Speaker 2: Yes. A, yes. But also, I feel like she has
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: been wanting him to break up with her this whole
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: season so that she doesn't have to marry him. And
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: he didn't. And so now she wants him to divorce
- 1:30:03Speaker 2: her because she does not want to be married to
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: him or anybody.
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: It's like I say, it's the eighth grade boy thing
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: where they're mean as you as possible. So you break
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: up with them so that they're not the bad guy.
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: And they don't know how to break up. So they're
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: just as mean to you as possible until you break
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: up with them.
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: That's exactly what she's doing. She's doing it right on
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: this show. And Josh just keeps taking it. And so
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: I wish someone had stopped and said, wait, Katie, why
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: do you say that? I've been waiting for you to
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: break up with me. Why don't you just break up
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: with me? Because those sentences need to be analyzed very deeply.
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: Do you want to break up with him? Is that
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: why you're saying that?
- 1:30:41Speaker 2: Is that why you're saying this? He says, you don't
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: marry someone and expect them to be perfect, but I
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: strongly believe that you marry the person who they are
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: in their core, and then you try to grow together.
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: I don't know if Katie is a good person in
- 1:30:59Speaker 2: her core.
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: She's not.
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: And I say that aside from mental illness, because her
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: mom said she's been a selfish child her whole life.
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: She's a selfish person.
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: And she hasn't had any kind of therapy to even
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: try to learn how to pretend not to be a narcissist.
- 1:31:16Speaker 2: Right. Because you could be a narcissist and work against
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: those traits and try to be a caring person. Remember
- 1:31:25Speaker 2: that time she asked Josh if she could do anything
- 1:31:27Speaker 2: to help him? And we were like, oh, my God,
- 1:31:30Speaker 2: what just happened?
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: We spent 10 minutes like, did anybody hear that? Wow,
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: that was crazy. Yeah.
- 1:31:36Speaker 2: Did someone slip something in her drink? Like, how is
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: she being nice now? What the heck?
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:31:42Speaker 2: Even your own mother is saying you have been self-absorbed
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: and selfish since you were a child.
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: That's bad. So, Sean says, Danica, how many people did
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: you see her making out with at that party? And
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: Danica says three. And Josh and Katie simultaneously go, three?
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: Who was the third?
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: And... Katie, she, apparently it was a girl, the third one.
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: And Katie goes, oh, that doesn't count. You don't care
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: if I make out with a girl. And Josh, before
- 1:32:14Speaker 2: he can even answer, Danica goes, well, she also kissed
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: this older gentleman as well, Robert. And I guess he's
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: like 50 something.
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: Katie's like, he's like, he's like 50. I don't know.
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: I don't know. So Asha says, in your drunkenness, you're
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: opening a door. So, Is it just kissing? How do
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: you know what your limits are? Because first you're kissing,
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: then you're hugging, then you're going into bed with someone
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: like you are. It's a slippery slope. If you're already
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: breaking boundaries, you know.
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: Is everybody going to say you're also putting yourself in
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: danger when you act like this? Because somebody could take
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: your wanting to make out as something else. And now
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: you put yourself in a situation where somebody might not
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: take no for an answer. You know, exactly. Exactly.
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: So Josh says, well, I do remember you heading to
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: the bathroom with this guy and I'm not saying you
- 1:33:08Speaker 2: did anything, but I don't know what would have happened
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: if I had stopped, if it had kept going, like
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: if I hadn't been there.
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: And Thomas says, I get that you love her, but
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: do you have the mental capacity to be on top
- 1:33:22Speaker 2: of her 24 seven? And Josh says, I'm not trying
- 1:33:25Speaker 2: to control her. Controlling her is not going to work
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: in this situation. Also, it's not your job to control her.
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Like if you have
- 1:33:32Speaker 2: to travel out of town, you're going to have one
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: of your friends watch her. She needs a babysitter 24 seven.
- 1:33:38Speaker 2: So she doesn't cheat on you. That's not fair to you.
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: So Sean says, what would have happened if Josh had
- 1:33:45Speaker 2: not intervened? Would you have gone into the bathroom with that,
- 1:33:49Speaker 2: that man? And what would you have done? And Katie says,
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: I don't know. And Marissa says, do you think it
- 1:33:54Speaker 2: would have gone past kissing? And Katie says, I don't know.
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: And Marissa says, it's possible, you're saying. And Katie says, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:34:06Speaker 2: And Marissa says, do you want to be married? And
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: Katie said, ding, ding. And Katie says, I don't know.
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: I can do whatever I want. I don't have to
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: listen to you. I don't have to listen to anybody.
- 1:34:19Speaker 2: I just want to be young and live my life.
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: And Asha says, do you want to be married? And
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: Katie says, I don't know. I don't know. And then
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: she goes, I don't enjoy being together.
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 1:34:33Speaker 2: And Asha says, Katie, take a breath because you're going
- 1:34:37Speaker 2: to say something that you might regret and you're going
- 1:34:39Speaker 2: to hurt the person that you're supposed to love. And
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: Josh says, this is exhausting. This is not something I
- 1:34:45Speaker 2: can do for the rest of my life. And Katie says,
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: I think I could do better on my own. And
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: she gets up and walks away. And at this point
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: we realized that her dress is so short. It is like,
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: she is bottomless.
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: It's like an ice skater dress.
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought we were going to see her tush
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: and it is, it's yeah, it is. It's like the
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: epitome of a baby doll dress that is, it goes
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: to like the very top of her thigh.
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: And she's like, I don't even have to tell you.
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: To the producer.
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: And then she starts venting to a PA and just
- 1:35:24Speaker 2: trying to calm her down. This girl has so many
- 1:35:27Speaker 2: issues and it's actually quite concerning. And I'm worried what
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: this could do to her. This is a person who
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: should not be on reality TV where they have to
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: face the wrath of social media because this could end
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: very badly. And I am concerned. This is not something anyone...
- 1:35:47Speaker 2: on the stage is equipped to handle or Sean Robinson?
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: No, Sean Robinson can ask her questions.
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: I was like, girl, girl, are you going to say something? Yeah.
- 1:35:58Speaker 2: Should I do it?
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: Like, it's just like, I am so tight in this
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: dress that I can barely breathe pushed up to my brain.
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: I'm really thinking.
- 1:36:05Speaker 2: I'm firing at all cylinders. Marissa's asking, like, do you
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: want to be married? That should have been a Sean question.
- 1:36:12Speaker 2: Like every that's, they need to bring out a psychologist.
- 1:36:16Speaker 2: They need to bring out freaking Dr. Drew or some
- 1:36:22Speaker 2: other poser. She needs Dr.
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: Phil. She needs tough love, tough love. Katie, how's that
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: working for you?
- 1:36:29Speaker 2: Yeah. Send her to one of those horrible team camps.
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: I know you're older than all these people by 10 years,
- 1:36:38Speaker 2: but you act like the same girl. You're as mature
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: as they are. It's, Just wow. I've never seen a
- 1:36:48Speaker 2: tell-all where I've just been watching in horror and grim fascination,
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: like watching a car wreck.
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: And next week, they're taking them directly to a bar.
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: A bar! Literally, the question I would have for Matt Sharp,
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: if he would ever speak to me, is in the
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: history of the 12 seasons of this show, much less
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: the 25,000 other seasons of all the other shows, You
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: have never taken the cast to a bar. We've seen
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: them in a house. We've never seen them in a bar.
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: Are you taking them to a bar because Katie has
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: a drinking problem?
- 1:37:22Speaker 2: Seriously.
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: And you're hoping something happens.
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy. The answer is yes. The answer
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: is yes.
- 1:37:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yes.
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: This show preys on people with issues.
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
- 1:37:36Speaker 2: And we keep watching.
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Thank you, TLC.
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: Thank you, TLC. But this has gotten very dark. This
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: is like love after lockup dark.
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: Speaking of, new season of Relationship Rehab. It's coming out
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: two weeks. We'll be done with Age of Inappropriate in
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: two weeks.
- 1:37:55Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: Everybody, like we mentioned, please make sure you are following SimpTheMusical.com.
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: Sign up for the newsletter. Make sure you're following Kimberly
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: and Katie at Date Dateline. I heard that my other
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: co-host Keisha is going to be on this week, so
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: I can't wait to listen. Don't be jelly. I'm jealous,
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: but I'm going to listen and support. And I want
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: everybody to listen to Keisha over there on Date with Dateline.
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: She did such a good job. She was so funny.
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: She's hilarious. Yes.
- 1:38:25Speaker 2: Also, I didn't mean jealous like it's some coup to
- 1:38:27Speaker 2: be on our show.
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: Oh, of course it is. Everybody wants to be.
- 1:38:29Speaker 2: On your show. No, that's false. I do.
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: I'd like to be back on. Okay. Everybody, make sure
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: you're following us on social media, at DateDateline, at PinkShadePod.
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: And Kimberly and I will see you on Friday if
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: you're on PinkShade Prime, the $ 5 a month level, covering
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: 90 Day Last Resort. It will be the commitment ceremony.
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: And on Monday, they are dropping, Monday night, they are dropping,
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: which this will be already out, the trailer for The
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: Last Resort Reunion. And I've got it scheduled to post
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: on my socials. You will just die when.
- 1:39:07Speaker 2: You see it.
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: No spoilers, no spoilers.
- 1:39:09Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I'm so excited.
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: And I'll see you later this week with Allie Barthwell.
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: She is an author who has worked on The Daily
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: Show with John Arthur and won an Emmy for that.
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: She has a book called Reality TV for Snobs. And
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: my interview with her will be out on Thursday. So
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: that's it, everybody. And we will see you on Friday
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: to talk about Last Resort.
- 1:39:31Speaker 2: Okay, bye. Bye.