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Swear To Tell The Whole Truth, And Nothing But The Truth with Larsa Pippen · Pursuit of Sassiness

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  Speaker 1: It's I Do Part two and it's your celebrity mentors
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  Speaker 1: Jenniferfessler and Kelly ben Simone. And today is exciting because
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  Speaker 1: we are bringing in another woman from the housewife universe.
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  Speaker 1: You love her on Real Housewives of Miami. It's Larsa Pippin.
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  Speaker 1: And we're also going to be taking listener questions. We
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of unbelievable questions from you guys, so
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  Speaker 1: here we go. Hey, Kellana both saying we've both met you.
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  Speaker 1: I met you very briefly at Bravocan, but it feels
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  Speaker 1: like you and I have been friends for many years
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  Speaker 1: because I have been following you for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Girl.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel like we have so much
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  Speaker 3: in common. Don't you feel like all the housewives have
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  Speaker 3: so much in common?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was looking. I was just doing some background
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  Speaker 2: on you, and we're both from Illinois. You're from Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: I'm from Chicago. You went to University of Illinois political science.
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  Speaker 2: My parents went to University of Illinois. So we have
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  Speaker 2: like so much. I always saw everyone I was like
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  Speaker 2: the housewives they never get the love they deserve because,
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  Speaker 2: like we all come from somewhere doing something incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of went to the same school. So I
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  Speaker 3: wonder if our dads were friends.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they were.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, my dad is.
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  Speaker 3: An engineer by trade, so he went there to become
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  Speaker 3: an engineer.
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  Speaker 1: We have a lot of other stuff in common, because
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  Speaker 1: obviously we are all three of us on this particular podcast,
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  Speaker 1: which is about finding love again. So right after divorce
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  Speaker 1: after death. Yeah, yeah, and I guess.
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  Speaker 2: And the journey, the journey of that.
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  Speaker 3: When I got divorce, I thought it was going to
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  Speaker 3: be so easy to find someone. Did you guys think
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  Speaker 3: that at some point?
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't ever worse? Actually, I was separated for like
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  Speaker 1: a year and a half, so it's sort of our
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  Speaker 1: part two. I mean, we had we separated and then
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  Speaker 1: we both had other significant others, and then we ended
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  Speaker 1: up getting back together. But I wasn't out there, I
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  Speaker 1: guess a year and a half. But so I didn't
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really get there yet. What about you, kel, Well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was thirty seven and I and now it's like everyone's like,
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  Speaker 2: that's so young. But I was married so young that
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  Speaker 2: I felt like I was so old and out of
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  Speaker 2: touch and didn't know how to Like, I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: what I was doing and I felt very uncomfortable dating,
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  Speaker 2: like really uncomfortable. I felt like everyone was like like
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  Speaker 2: a vulture.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like all my single friends, I have so
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  Speaker 3: many beautiful single friends that go on random dates and
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  Speaker 3: don't like anyone. Do you guys ever find like, do
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  Speaker 3: you guys hear stories like that? Your friends like they're established,
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  Speaker 3: they're beautiful, but then they'll do a few dates with
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  Speaker 3: guys like random guys and then nothing comes of it.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's both. I feel like the way
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  Speaker 2: there's so many of these beautiful women from all these
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  Speaker 2: different ages who are looking for, you know, just as
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  Speaker 2: a companion, and the men at the same time are
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  Speaker 2: like I don't have a connection with them. All they
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  Speaker 2: want is this, All they want is that, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, all these people are available.
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  Speaker 1: I always feel like it's sometimes there's like the approach
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  Speaker 1: the approaches off, so like I do tell my single
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  Speaker 1: friends it's not like if if you get set up
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  Speaker 1: or if you meet someone on whatever app, like you're
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  Speaker 1: going into assume it's not going to be a love connection.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably ninety percent not. So like take that pressure
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  Speaker 1: off and if you're going to go meet someone, make
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  Speaker 1: it for coffee, don't make it for dinner. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to go meet someone, think you're just meeting
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  Speaker 1: someone who is hopefully going to be a friend. You're
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  Speaker 1: not going into it thinking my life is about to change.
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  Speaker 1: You're going into a thinking it's almost a networking opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: It's not there for you. If it's not there for him,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he knows someone, maybe you know someone. But like,
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  Speaker 1: it's I see a lot of my friends. They put
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  Speaker 1: themselves out there and they're like, oh no, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna do it anymore. It's all right. I hate it.
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  Speaker 1: It's all wrong. I hate whatever hinge or whatever the
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  Speaker 1: app is. It's gross. The guys are all gross. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it's it's a numbers game.
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  Speaker 1: And so even if you know, you go into it
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  Speaker 1: and it didn't work, whose wad to.
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  Speaker 2: Share our Excel spreadsheet and be like like, here's our
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  Speaker 2: Google docs, this is what we did, this is who
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  Speaker 2: we went out with, this is yeah right, So what
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  Speaker 2: have you learned about yourself going through divorce?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like my relationship with my ex
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  Speaker 3: was not that bad. That's what I realized.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really nice guy. I feel like I
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  Speaker 3: picked a really good guy to have kids with. My
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  Speaker 3: kids are gorgeous, they're like amazing, the rock stars. I'm
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  Speaker 3: really happy that I chose him to have kids with.
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  Speaker 3: But when you really, I really thought it'd be much
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  Speaker 3: easier to meet someone that I would like after my
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  Speaker 3: first marriage, just because I thought, like I think when
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  Speaker 3: you're married, people tend to want you more. Relationships, girlfriends, guys,
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  Speaker 3: they want you so much more because they can't have you.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of the one of the words advice
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  Speaker 2: that my single guy gave me. He's like, if you're
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship, you'll meet new people. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: if I have a I could never be like looking around.
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  Speaker 3: No, you guys, it is. It's literally like, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: like the questions that we're going to go through today, right,
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  Speaker 3: So basically like the first one, why are men toxic?
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  Speaker 3: They love you one minute and are dropping you the next.
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  Speaker 3: I think men like things that shine, Men want a trophy,
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  Speaker 3: Men want something that they cannot get and once they
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  Speaker 3: get you.
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  Speaker 2: The lesson have you guys?
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys ever heard of this book called The Rules?
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  Speaker 1: It's been around for a longis you have, Hew, Laura,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever heard of it? No, it was written
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  Speaker 1: I don't know twenty something years ago, and it was
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  Speaker 1: and the women that wrote it, actually I was, I
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  Speaker 1: am friends with and I worked for them for a
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  Speaker 1: little while. But it's all about how men and women
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  Speaker 1: are different and men need the chase period full stop.
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  Speaker 1: Whether or not you like that or you think it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you think that's morally over like, it's
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  Speaker 1: just sort of what it is. And I actually do
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  Speaker 1: also believe that. I feel like, you know, women that
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  Speaker 1: are unavailable just married right, or just busy or nice
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  Speaker 1: but not crazed after the first date. And I always
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's usually when men exert more effort. They
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  Speaker 1: want what they can't have, what you guys are saying.
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  Speaker 1: But even with my own marriage, like Jeff was after
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  Speaker 1: me for a long time and I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think so. You are way too short and you
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  Speaker 1: are wait like there, you know whatever.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna be in the same situation you were years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I know, right exactly he's gonna be like, yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Right, a good place. Just focus on all the good
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  Speaker 3: things that you have going on, how great he is,
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  Speaker 3: how funny is how smart is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh honey, believe me when I tell you I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Fessler couldn't lose me if he tried. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: just the truth. I mean he's my everything, but he's
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  Speaker 1: still short. I mean he knows it. I know it.
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  Speaker 1: But at the beginning, so he was chasing me, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think it was there was a spark and then
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  Speaker 1: there was. But I think it helped in terms of
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  Speaker 1: like him wanting what he thought he couldn't have. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course guys always guys want to feel good.
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  Speaker 3: And you know how guys judge each other is by
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  Speaker 3: the girl that you are with. That's how they judge you.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you were with a gorgeous, smart, independent woman,
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  Speaker 3: they're like, he must have it going on. That's how
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  Speaker 3: guys judge each other based on who you're with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, interesting, No, I think that's probably true.
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  Speaker 2: So what about from Katie where she says that why
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  Speaker 2: do relationships rarely work out? The woman makes more than
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  Speaker 2: the man. Am I doomed to be alone forever because
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  Speaker 2: I don't need a man financially?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think that that's a thing. That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: It's a thing for some people, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it's more of what
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about, like if if the woman is if
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  Speaker 1: the woman is a little bit hard to get but
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  Speaker 1: also open and loving, and the man is so attracted
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  Speaker 1: to her, I don't feel like that would be necessarily men.
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  Speaker 2: Are intimidated by women who make money, of.
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  Speaker 3: Course they are, But I also feel like it depends
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  Speaker 3: how the man makes you feel, right, because if you're
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  Speaker 3: super independent and you've got all these things, what's going
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  Speaker 3: to make you feel good? Someone that comes in to
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  Speaker 3: make you feel you know what I mean, Like a
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  Speaker 3: guy that's there for you and your friend and your companion,
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  Speaker 3: and someone that's into the same things you're intosa.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel that being on Housewives living in Miami?
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's more difficult because a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these guys are like, you're so well known, you're
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  Speaker 2: so connected in all these different universes, Like I could
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  Speaker 2: never be the man that you want me to be.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like that happens to you?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's harder for guys to want to be
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  Speaker 3: with an MBA player or an athlete's ex wife. More
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  Speaker 3: so than a housewife's ex wife. Do you know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying. I feel like when you're an athlete, you're
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  Speaker 3: used to certain things. We have certain things that like
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  Speaker 3: it's hard for a lot of guys to come in
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  Speaker 3: and just be able and be comfortable in another you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Another size? Shoot, it's not that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, expand on that a little bit, like, have guys
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  Speaker 1: not wanted to date you because Scottie like they felt intimidated?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think that. I think that. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's like hard for someone to come in and to
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  Speaker 3: take that person is so my ex is so big
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  Speaker 3: and my lifestyle was so big that I think I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure a lot of guys are like I remember when
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  Speaker 3: I was first divorced, there were other basketball players and
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  Speaker 3: other athletes that were trying to talk to me, and
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  Speaker 3: they were like, you would never talk to me because
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  Speaker 3: I don't have as much money as your ex, or
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  Speaker 3: you're used to private planes, or you're used to this,
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm sure it's in the back. You have
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  Speaker 3: to be a confident man to come in and play
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  Speaker 3: house with someone that was married to a successful person before.
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  Speaker 3: You You know, if you're not, if you're not comfortable
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  Speaker 3: in who you are and confident, then it would never work.
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  Speaker 2: But I think also like you're a very first of all,
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  Speaker 2: you're super smart, you're a Midwestern, so you have strong values,
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  Speaker 2: and you're just a very kind human and so I
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  Speaker 2: think that that's also intimidating. They're probably expecting you to
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  Speaker 2: be like, let's go to Louis Vuitton on the first date,
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  Speaker 2: and you're not. You're like saying these really thoughtful things,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm sure they're like, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: What.
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  Speaker 2: Really interesting?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the girls that give guys Christmas lists
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  Speaker 3: are the girls that don't end up with a successful guy.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like some of the girls here in Miami,
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  Speaker 3: like when they start dating a guy, they're like off
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  Speaker 3: the back. And that's probably why relationships are so transactual
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  Speaker 3: these days, because I have single friends now that meet
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  Speaker 3: a guy and they're like, you have to pay my
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  Speaker 3: mortgage or my rent.
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  Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here.
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  Speaker 3: That's the mentality in Miami, like every girl, you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: you have to be taken care of.
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  Speaker 1: That is not the mentality as far as I know.
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  Speaker 1: On the East Coast, women are more like honey, I
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  Speaker 1: don't need you, Okay, I could pay my own effing mortgage.
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  Speaker 2: Well it was interesting because like when I got divorced,
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I was like, okay, I'm getting divorced
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  Speaker 2: my ex husband you know, who was living in la
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  Speaker 2: and Paris at the time, and I, you know, switch
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  Speaker 2: gears immediately and went back to work and really like
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  Speaker 2: full on to make sure that my girls had absolutely everything.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of guys were very intimidated the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I was not like a victim to my circumstance.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I'm like, I'm really sorry that I
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  Speaker 2: can't be a victim, but I have children to educate,
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  Speaker 2: and oh that's that's so thank you. But it was
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  Speaker 2: also like it made me feel so guarded because I
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  Speaker 2: just didn't trust anyone. I just thought that they were
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  Speaker 2: like either trying to make me feel bad about the
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  Speaker 2: responsibilities that I had, or they were trying to make
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  Speaker 2: me insecure that I was able to actually do things
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  Speaker 2: that I could do. And you know, Housewives is a
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  Speaker 2: big part of that. I mean, if I hadn't done
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  Speaker 2: on Housewives, I don't know really what I mean. That
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  Speaker 2: added a massive new revenue stream for me. An opportunity
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  Speaker 2: that I don't even know like what I would have
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  Speaker 2: done at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, I don't. I feel like a younger woman, right,
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  Speaker 1: not a woman that we do where I do Part two,
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  Speaker 1: Part one. I can almost see even my younger self
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  Speaker 1: sort of thinking that, like, are you going to take
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  Speaker 1: care of me?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm twenty nine years old and I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: for a man who obviously is wonderful and kind and
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  Speaker 1: funny and all of that, but also ambitious. My grandmother
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  Speaker 1: always said, it doesn't have to be rich, he has
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  Speaker 1: to be ambitious that matter. But like this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like at this age, I would not be
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  Speaker 1: trying to have a man pay my mortgage right off
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  Speaker 1: the bat. As a matter of fact, I would find
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  Speaker 1: that offensive. Like I'm surprised that in Miami, what.
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  Speaker 2: About men asking has to pay their mortgage.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it depends on the relationship. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you meet a guy that's successful and you know
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  Speaker 3: he wants to take care of you, why not. It
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  Speaker 3: depends what you're into, you know. I feel like when
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  Speaker 3: I was before my ex husband, the things I needed
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  Speaker 3: I don't need any more, like you said, Julia, Like
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm you know what I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just I'm like, good way I am? Do you know?
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  Speaker 1: You mean? Why your power? Also, if he's paying your
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  Speaker 1: mortgage right off the bat, it just feels like the
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  Speaker 1: power dynamic is sucked from the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're just like on your back foot all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you get to know someone when you
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  Speaker 1: you you already need him?
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  Speaker 3: No, I totally understand what you're saying, but I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I don't know, it kind of feels good to
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  Speaker 3: have a guy take care of you. I love a
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  Speaker 3: guy to take care of my.
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  Speaker 1: God. I don't disagree with that, but.
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  Speaker 2: I also said about I thought that was a really astute, like,
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  Speaker 2: don't look for someone that has so much money, look
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  Speaker 2: for someone who's ambitious. Like that is such Tell my
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  Speaker 2: kids that, because that is the truth. You want someone
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  Speaker 2: that like is a self starter, wants to you know.
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  Speaker 1: Be a part of something like that is just so organic, right, Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's true. I'm telling you. Nana Bucky pushed that into
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  Speaker 1: me from a very young age. And my sister and
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  Speaker 1: she also said to us, I say it to my
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  Speaker 1: kids all the time, specifically my daughter, but she's like
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  Speaker 1: you are special. I didn't really get that from my
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  Speaker 1: parents as much. You are special, you have everything you have,
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  Speaker 1: you come from a nice family, and you are smart.
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  Speaker 1: And I try to pump my daughter specifically up like
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  Speaker 1: I don't want her to feel like she's so oh.
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  Speaker 1: I want her to feel worthy of anybody and everybody
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  Speaker 1: right and not feel like somebody has it over her
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  Speaker 1: in any way I mean money or looks or you know.
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  Speaker 1: At least I try. But my Nanda probably did better
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  Speaker 1: than I'm doing. But anyway, Dana Asks had a falling
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  Speaker 1: out with my maid of honor after my divorce. She
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  Speaker 1: decided to remain friends with my ex. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: the ending of a toxic relationship hurts more or less
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  Speaker 1: than when a romantic relationship ends? Also, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think about men that have a lot of female friends.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say I feel like it's harder when
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  Speaker 3: you lose a girlfriend. What do you guys think, really, LARSA, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like because since I'm single, I'm like, for me,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like relationships with guys are not like permanent,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel like a friendship with a girlfriend that
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  Speaker 3: knows every single thing about you that you're maid of
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  Speaker 3: honor like that that would be way harder for me
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  Speaker 3: than you know what I mean, like my ex.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's such an emotional attachment, which.
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  Speaker 3: Is your best friend. Doesn't your best friend know every
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  Speaker 3: single thing about you?
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  Speaker 2: Everything, all your good bad, ugly? I mean, I totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: I think losing a best friend is I mean, I've
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  Speaker 2: lost a couple of friends and I'm just like, what
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  Speaker 2: is going on? Like I feel it makes me feel
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  Speaker 2: very like unsettled. Where a guy, it's like, yes, you
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  Speaker 2: feel bad, there's love lost.
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  Speaker 1: You have, well you to be a certain amount of
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  Speaker 1: secure for that, which I mean, I'm thinking about myself
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: when I was single. You know, I a guy I
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: would have dumped at the time when I was I'm
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: talking about when I was a kid, you know, a kid,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I would have dumped any girlfriend for a guy. It
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: was just I was looking for, you know, for a husband.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's just what it was, and
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: that was so important now I guess thinking about it. Listen,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I my husband. I really I really don't want to
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: lose him. But I feel like you're probably right, Like now,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: my friendships are so crucial. I mean they are, you know,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: like you don't you need.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: I need my girlfriends like I rely on them. I
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: need them, I love them, I nurture that relationship. I
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: feel like if it's just a boyfriend, then it's like
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: and normally when a relationship ends, it's because of the woman.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: So if I'm ready to get divorced, like you know
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: what I mean, it's like I would be way more
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: heartbroken if I lost my girlfriend and she still wants
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: to have a relationship with my ex, Like that would
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: be like hard.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I would be remiss not at least bring up what
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I've been watching you go through this past season, so
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: very much like what we're discussing, you know, And you
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: know what makes.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: It worse when she never had a relationship with him.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: They never hung out without me, They never they were
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: not friends ever, you know, I mean they were together
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: every time we were together, So it wasn't like they
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: hung out. We did, you know, trips together with him
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: and her boyfriend who was never that relationship. They probably
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: had dinner like we probably as a couple had dinner
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: with them maybe five times, four times, five times crazy Okay.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: For me my personal experience, I think it is a
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: red flag if a guy has too many girlfriends. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: just I'd rather him be a boys boy and hang
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: out with his friends more so. But if his girlfriends
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: are always calling him, I don't know.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I just feel like that. I don't know if that
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: have any guys that may straight guys with a lot
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: of girlfriends. Yeah, I do.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of guys like these are my girlfriends.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, do you think the benefits are just friends?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: They're not just friends.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: They've slept with all of them.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like that's.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I dated a guy who like, these are my friends,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and then like every single one were like that we dated,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: and I was like, that's so nice for you. I
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, yeah yeah yeah, And I
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: didn't have respect for him after that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny, John, because I feel like your
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: opinion on a lot of these things it's going to
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: be different than my opinion with Kelly because we're both
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Like when I was married, and I remember I had
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: all these single friends and they would tell me stories.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: And I'd be like I could never.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I would never. I just could not fathom living that lifestyle,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: you know, just because I was happily married, I had
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: all these kids, and once you become divorced. I feel
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: like you see things completely different.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably true. I mean, you know we
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: are we are part two. It's definitely a part two,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: right like our marriage. The first part of our marriage
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: is way different than what it is right now. And
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: my views, you know, in terms of what I'm looking
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: for in life. I used to say when we were separated,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we had no spark. I didn't feel as spark. Now
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I've said as poor. But like I redefine spark, right, Like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: what does that mean for me? It doesn't mean that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: every time he walks in the door, I'm gonna, you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: whatever hang from the shop. I don't care as much
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: about that. What I care about is peace and fun
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and companionship and respect and those things. I just that's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: what I That's what my spark is today, Jen.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Jeff absolutely adores you when you put that dolt. When
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I was with you at adulta event and you put
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: that dress on, he was like, we're taking that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: More than that, he actually bought it, which I've never
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: seen Jeff, I hit at that amount of money ever,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So he must.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Have so sweet And it's not just about buying a dress.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Like the way that I mean, I saw him the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: way he was looking at you.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like that though before we separated. That's the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: interesting part. It really wasn't. I mean, shake up.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Every now and then they need you to like do
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: some crazy things to get them right because they forget
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: they think this is normal, like every the same thing
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: like is very normal from it. And they imagine, even
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: if they're in a toxic relationship, men never leave.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: They could be comfortable and you know, a boring environment
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: unless they find someone else, unless they find Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: But I find that you did. Whenever I hear stories
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: of my girlfriends that are like, I'm bored in my relationship.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: You know, I've been with this guy for fifteen years,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, stay where you are, okay, because these
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: streets are not for the faith. These streets are not
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: for every Okay. It is really challenging out there, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I suggest you work on your relationship, find, you know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: find something to get you going.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I say that too.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I say that to my friends. My friends are like,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: they always like, I'm gonna get divorced, and like, first
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: of all, you don't even know what getting divorced means.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: It's a it's like Hey, I'm getting divorced. It's like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: first of all, that contract is a crazy contract with
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: all these financial aftermath that just makes people ugly and dirty,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and it just just deteriorates any kind of connection that
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you had. And number two, it is just like Larsa
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: is saying, it is the wild West out there, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: there are no rules, there's no regulations. People are all
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: over the place, and people are and cheating and married.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I've just like I've been like trying
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: to be open to a lot of new situations and I'm.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Just like, Kelly, you got to be younger guys.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Larsa, I mean watching the show, and I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: know that the show is the show, right, I'm not saying,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and we only see you know, little segments of your
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: life obviously, but in watching the show, I feel like
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: there's always been you. You've basically never had a problem
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: meeting a man. I mean, obviously you're beautiful and you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you know, all of the things, but I feel like
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you have where have you struggled to ever a meeting
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in one? Because what I see, and again that's just
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the show, is that you men love you like it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: not doesn't seem to be hard for you.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Fun, babe, jet I'm fun and I'm just kidding. I know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like I have very young energy. I feel
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: like I like to go out. I feel like Kelly
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: here the same way like I feel like I like
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: to go out. I'm fun. I have good energy, and
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you know, when you're positive. A lot of times people
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: go through a divorce and like we were talking about this,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: you become a victim. And nobody around negative people and
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: people that feel like they're defeated, and people feel like
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: they've gotten a shorter end of the stick. I think
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: nobody wants to be around you. But if you leave
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: a relationship and you're like, guess what, I'm going to
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: be better, I'm going to have more, I'm going to
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: get every single thing that I want. Then you attract that,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: then that's what comes to you. You know, I don't
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: really have problem meeting guys, and you know, I kind
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: of choose who I want to be with. And it's
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: funny because I feel like I've gone through a different
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: stages since I've been divorced on what I want. I
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: wanted a dat, a guy that was really really successful.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I used to date a prince from Abu Dhabi, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: like he showed me things I've never seen before. It
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: was a whole different world for me dating someone that
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you know, like traveled with his car on his plane,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: never has never saw that before. He just showed me
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: things I've never seen before, you know, And I think
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: that it's like when you see different things and then
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I'll take that off my bucket list.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: It was great, it was fun, but that's not who's
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: going to be my partner?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Is it? Now? That didn't It didn't used to be
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: like what are you looking for? Now? That's different and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: now I know you have a very serious boyfriend now,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: so what was it that was different than other guys
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that you can you know.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like when I was dating the guy from Dubai,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: my kids were younger, so it worked like I would
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: go to Dubai and visit him, he would come here
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and visit me, Like he didn't have to be with
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: me all the time because I my kids were like
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: my main priority. Everything was about my kids, their basketball
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: schedules or school schedules, piano. Like I was like a
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: full on crazy mom. And so it was great having
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: a boyfriend that lived across the world because I would
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: go see him for three weeks. When Scotty had our kids,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I would come back and then be on mom mode,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: you know, and vice versa. And I feel like today
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: my kids are older, so now it's like I have
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: more free time, and the guy that I'm dating now,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: that I you know, been with, now has more free
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: time for me. So we're literally best friends. We do
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: everything together, like we work out together, we make breakfast together,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: we do everything together.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: So I feel like my what I have now is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: what I need today, you know what I need now,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But what i'll is different, different than the other guys,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I think he comes and Kelly, you'd understand this. He
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: comes from a very like normal family, Like he comes
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: to his dad as an engineer like my dad. His
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: mom and dad are married for you know, fifty years
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: or forty some years, like my parents. He just comes
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: from a very cultured background. And I think, like me,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: being like Middle Eastern, I'm used to certain things like
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: you know, like if my dad calls and tells me
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: to take a photo off ig, I'm taking it off.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: If he calls me larsa that bikini picture, my dad
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: goes you published a photo, Larsa, take it down and
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I'm taking.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Down the photo.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: My dad's gonna kill me.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Really, Kelly, you two are like that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, are you kidding me? When my dad was alive,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: he was like.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: All over, everything's okay.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: He would say he would package things, like if he
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: saw something and read something that my mother had shown him,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: he would package it in a way that was trying
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to be positive, but he was basically like, don't ever
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: do that again, Like I will you?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Like, are you like? And I feel like Jeff has
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: the same family. They're like the thing. I love that,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: and they're very traditional, Like he grew up having a
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: mom and dad, so he knows what it's like to
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: have a successful relationship. I think it's it's hard when, like,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: you come from a normal family and then you date
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: someone that doesn't have that. My ex husband came from
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: a mom and dad that were happily married and so
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: we co parented the same. We had a lot of similarities,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and I think once I started dating guys that didn't
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: have that, it's just different. They're used to different traumas,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Like they're just used to different things. That trigger them,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: and you're always having to make them feel good and
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: you're always having to like.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that was me. I came from the traumatic background
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and the broken family and Jeff my husband. I mean,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you couldn't have gotten a more normal like yeah, like
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: just like he grew up, there was never issues. Parents
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: adored each other, it was but for me it was
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the nightmare. And but I think part of maybe why
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I was drawn to him, and then maybe part of
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: why we got separated, Like I was drawn to him
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: because of the he was so solid. Then maybe my
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: crazy snuck back in and I looked for crazy for
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a while, and I looked for just because I've been
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so used to crazy. But yeah, I mean this
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: is actually turning in. This is not just about me.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I'm in therapy now, you guys. I'm sorry. I don't
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: mean to like, but it's just I haven't really thought
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: about it until this moment. Maybe that's like part of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: why we got separated. Things were too calm and I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: just wasn't used to it, and I was used to
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: chaos always growing up. Now I am very very happy
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: with calm, boring, peaceful and by the.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Way, Larsa and I are in a very similar situation.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I just started dating this guy recently, since the summer.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: He's very much like how I was raised. His family's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: like my family. He's a great parent, his kids come first,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and so like, I just feel very comfortable around him,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: where a lot of guys before, like I didn't like
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the way they parented their children, or they the way
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: they talked about their exes, be very uncomfortable, And this
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: guy doesn't do any of that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's really good.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: That makes me feel good.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: That makes me feel it's not safe, but it just
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: makes me feel like calm, Like I am in a
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: good place and I'm feeling good about what I'm doing,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: and everything else is like starting to do well as
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: a result.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And I know I shouldn't like place like, you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: emphasis on my relationship and for everything else, but just
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: me personally, I feel like I'm in a very good
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: place with him.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I love that you can have craziness everywhere else, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I think if you have craziness at home, it disrupts
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: everything else, your work, your kids, you know, everything else.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: By the way, I already parented two children, I don't
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: want a parent anymore. I don't want I don't want
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: to parent a man. It's not happening.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: So no, I hear you, trust me. I've been there,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: done that. I've tried to tell you that being single,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I tried it all, and you know what, I really
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't have a good experience dating someone with kids.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: And it's crazy to say because I have four kids.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: But I think for me, like I'm such like you know, moms,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: like we're we could do we can multitask, we can
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: do ten things some time. But I think it's really
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: hard for single dads to do that. They don't know
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: how to like navigate work, kids and a new relationship.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's a really interesting point. I think a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: lot of women have a hard time. Specifically, I think
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: with picture dating a guy right now with young kids,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know, and your kids are that's hard, right, awful.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: For the little boy, I felt offul all my it
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was awful.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Tell us Kelly, So what was it like, No, it
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: was just it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Was very difficult because you know, I have raised kids
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: on my own and I love children, and so I
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: had to just have a different way of being with
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: kids and you know, creating boundaries. But also, like like
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Jen talks about, like I like fuel children with.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Love, like tons and tons and love of love, so
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: they feel.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Safe with me, and I think it's it's very strong
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: when they go back home and they're like like, I'm
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in this amazing she's you know, I have this new
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: friend and she like wants to read with me and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: do all these things, and the mom is like, I'm
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: too busy, I'm gonna read with you now or whatever
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: it is that she's doing. Not to say that she's
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: a bad parent, but it's just like we're different because
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not full parent, and so I think that you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: it was very difficult for the kids, and I could
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: see it. It was awful.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Did you also feel like you just didn't want to
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: do it again, Like you've done that that young kid parenting?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Like I know for myself, I would not want to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: do that again, specifically with even any I don't want to.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I want to want to do together my own kids,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: much less someone else is like I've done that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I've dated two guys I had children, and one of them,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you know, had a beautiful daughter, and like we would
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: run together and do all these things, and she was
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: kind of really bonding with me, which is so nice.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: It made me feel so good, but then I'm like,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: this is not when I'm I mean, it's one thing
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: to bond, but I don't want to be replacing or
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I don't want that. I mean, I felt it was
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: making me feel uncomfortable. I don't know how to explain it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I mean now that I'm so great,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: but I just love I love kids. I do. I like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I love their curiosity and I just want them to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: be happy and regardless of.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: What he but I don't want to raise them again.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I literally was like, should I have another baby?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Serious?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That's one of my biggest regrets. LARSA, I should have
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: had more kids.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Well it's not too late, no way, I mean not that, listen.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I also, I obviously love kids, but absolutely not. I
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: have done, been there, done that, I've done my time.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I loved every single minute of it. And like all mothers,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: if it's me or them, it's them, like I will
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: choose it. But I'm good, like I like not having
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to answer to anyone anymore. I'm enjoying it very much.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: When I was, when I was, when I after I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: got divorced, and then I wanted a housewives I was like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to meet these great guys. I'm going to
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: be able to have another child. This is going to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: be unbelievable. And it was like we were talking about before.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: It was I'm like, what is going on? Who are
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: these men and why are they round?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: This is not if I want to have a child
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: with LARSA. Let's do another question.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I froze embryos when I was married, but my husband, Natalie,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: passed away in a car accident. I don't know if
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I'll ever be able to date again. Should I think
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: about being a single mom or is that selfish? I
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: would do it if I wanted to have a child,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I would much rather have a child with someone that
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I loved, that was a good person, than a random
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: boyfriend that, you know it possibly could not work out.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I would definitely use the embryos. What about you guys?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of them.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: To do it, I think is probably different for everyone.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I mean I think
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that ideally I would want to raise children with a partner.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: It's just easier to have a partner. Not always, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: in most I think in most situations easier. But I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: don't know that seems like such a personal individual decision.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I just know a lot of women who have raised
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: children on their own, whether they've adopted them, whether they
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: have you know, gone through you know, different avenues to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: have babies, and they seem so happy and like one
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: of them is like this major, major, major woman in
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: business and she's like, I would never have been able
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: to have a child if it weren't this way, So
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: like that's amazing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you ever regread it. I don't
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: think you ever go I wish I hadn't. Right, Once
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: you have a baby, there's only everything your heart opens up.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: There's no no matter how you have It.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Would have been nice to have had a partner to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: raise my children with. You know, my children were five
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and seven when they were in housewives when I was single, Like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: would it have been nice to have someone like nurture
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: my children through that process. Fortunately I had a great father,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: but you know I didn't have I didn't have that opposite.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I was the mother and the father to them, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm so grateful that my children are amazing,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: but you know that is something that really is difficult
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: for them It's.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Funny because when I was, when I was going through
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: my divorce and till today. It's funny because Scotty and
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I fight over the kids, like he shows them so
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: much love. I show them so much love, and I
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: tell my kids sometimes it's like last Thanksgiving, Sophia was
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: supposed to come to Miami and her dad was like, no,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I'm taking her to Arkansas to visit his family. And
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: she was so upset, and I'm like, it's okay, go
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: to Arkansas with your dad, Like he loves you so much,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: he's so proud of it, you want to take you
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: to visit his family. But I was thinking, like, I
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: guess it's a good problem to have both your parents
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: are fighting for you and want you. That's like a
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: good feeling, you.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Know, right. I think that's so great. I love that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you and Scottie are. It sounds like it's such a
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: good place.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I've learned to do, Jen I just give,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: like I give him all the praise, I give him
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: whatever he says. I kind of just go with because
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I can live in a place of like turmoil, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I could have done that, like when we were going
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: through our divorce, I could have been really, you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I could have made his life help and I didn't.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I chose not to. I was like, I'm not going
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: to do that because once you start that cycle, I
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: feel like it never ends.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: That's a great lesson, Like that's I hope that our
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: listeners like I say it again because I just think
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that's such a I think it's so helpful to people
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: going through divorce, Like it's not going to help to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: if you are like it, if you are kind, because
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I when I was separated, I remember like we thought
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: we were getting divorced, and I was not. It was
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: not going to be contentious. I was bound and determined
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to not have it be so ugly because I grew
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: up with such ugly divorces, and as a result, I
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: did kind of what you did, Laursa. Like my daughter
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: would call and she'd be like, daddy's doing this, and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're calling me to complain about Jeff Fesler. Honey,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you had the wrong number. Okay, you know how lucky,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But that kind of thing that I made such a
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: difference to him and conversely, you know it just I
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: think that's such good advice, Like what you did, I
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: think is is beautiful thing.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's honestly, it's a conscious effort. You know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I could have all my friends. I remember I was
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: filming Housewives and I was like crying because I was like,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: oh my god, Sophia's I'm not going to be with
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Sophia for Thanksgiving. Like I was really like heartbroken about that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: And I could have called my lawyers. I could have
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: called him and went crazy on him, like why are
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you doing this? Why won't you let her know be
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: with me? And I just thought, it's it's not going
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: to win anything. She's with her dad. She's happy. She's
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: not happy right now, but she will be happy when
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: she gets around all her cousins. And I just have
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: to always take the high road. And I feel like
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: that's the only thing that's worked for my sanity. My
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: kids they're like amazing, They're they're great because I never
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: complained about their dad. Their dad kuld do anything to me,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: and I will never talk about him. I will never
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: put in a bad night. I you know, I was
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: married to an NBA player. You guys, you can only
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: imagine how crazy my life was. But I've never ever
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: bashed him. I've never you know, said negative things about
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: him and the press or at home.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Or amongst my people.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And I think that's like how you're supposed to handle
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: divorce because if you do bash your ex on social media,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: your kids will see that, and you know what I mean,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: it's just toxic for everyone. And then he resents your
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: kids because they're you know, kind of have their mom's back.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: It's just not a good playing field for anyone. So
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I've always like had a conscious effort to you know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: whatever he does, I'm like, okay, thanks, love you, like,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I hope you're good. He can do the worst things
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: to me, guys. I literally I'm like, Okay, I hope
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: you have a great day. Love you.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: You know kell Yeah, Bill last years either.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: No, I never do. I mean, listen, he shot Playboy
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: for me. I mean, he shot a couple covers for me.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And I always have him do everything for me that
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: has to do with any photography. And I would never
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: do that because I don't want my girls to feel
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: like insecure about their dad. That just doesn't it doesn't
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: like it's just it's just it's a lose lose.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: You're just not you know, a lot of women do that,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: and I don't they rather play victim and bash their ex.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's just so toxic and it will
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: never end, you know, It's just like a cycle of
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: he did this, he did that, and it's like at
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, just make peace
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: whatever it is, and make peace and keep.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It MOVINGE love that.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: And a therapist once told me that you gravitate towards
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: your like like your father, or men gravitate towards their mother.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: So however that whatever that relationship was, like, that's what
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: you that's where you find like safety. So like we
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: were talking about that before, Jen, how you were like
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you had you know, some bad things tomoril in your past,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: so that's that's where you felt that that was your
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: safe zone. And so for women like we, you know,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I had a great, strong, academic father. I feel safe
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: in that kind of powerful human. I don't feel safe
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: in the you know, while loose like that doesn't make
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: me feel safe.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to know where I stand. I feel
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: like I don't want to get in a pool unless
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I know the temperature, unless I know what's like. I'm
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: not going swimming unless I know what's what I'm signing.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Up for smart girl.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, see, I always want to hear this is. This
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: reminds me of one of my best friends. You guys,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I'm friends with this girl and she was dating this guy.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: So wait, let me read this story. Let me read
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: this question that CJ has for us been living the
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: bachelor life since divorced. But most of the women I
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: date last long, don't last longer than a month. I'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: on the shorter side. And yeah, that's not big either.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: The size really mattered to women.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: That's my question. That was that was written for me.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: So when I was single again ten million years ago,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I was my only My only absolute was that he'd
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: be taller than me. And when I got fixed up
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: on dates, I would say, I'm not going out. I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: don't care. He doesn't have to be so handsome, he
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be so wealthy, he just has to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: be tall. Jeff is five six. I think that it's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: a very interesting and I did that. But you know, now,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I watched this guy, this professor from n YU. He
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: does a lot of talking about younger boys and girls
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and how because so much that is social media, you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: see that like a lot of times the girls will
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: swipe I don't know which is the bad one left
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: or right, but swipe one way, if the guy is,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: if the boys not tall, right or the thing. That's
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: why it's so like, like I would say to young people,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: you have to go out and meet people, because maybe
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you meet this short guy and he's got this unbelievably
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: perfect personality and he looks at you in the eye.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: He can meet you whatever and you whatever, and there's
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: there's just beromones and chemistry. I think that like part
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: of that is being out in the world right, and
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I think online that's hard. I do think
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of girls look for tall.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I was always felt like a big girl also,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: so I wanted a guy to make me feel like
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a more sort of smaller feminine whatever it was.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: First of all, you're not a big girl. You're tiny
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: and perfect.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: And Ellie, I mean I was, I always was. I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: was always very I would go through like had really
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: heavy periods like you know, being so I always you
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: did too, LARSA.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, really, you know what's really interesting, I feel
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: like what you like. For instance, not that you're ever
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: going to get divorced, John, but if you were ever
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: to get divorced, you'd probably look for a short guy.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I think you're used to I have a girlfriend that
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: literally only dates shorter men, and that's really she were heels. Yeah,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: she's like five five with heels, she's like five eight,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: and she only dates guys that are literally like short.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: And I was like, why do you only like short guys?
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: And she's like, I think I'm just used to shorter men.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: So I do you think it's good to, you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: keep your options open. You understand tall men's like it's
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: less than like it's like one percent of the population.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: You guys, right, and you've dated all of them, lady, I.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Dated all of them. I'll take you know. I think
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I like what I'm used to. You know, so I'm
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: used to tall guys. My kids are all tall. So
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to get a leader. When I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: want to reach up to the cabinet, I'll just call
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: job for my kids and be like, can you get
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: that at the top?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: No, you definitely could be right. Maybe I would be drawn.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I like that when you're a date, when you have
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: like when you've spent a lot of time with someone,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: you just gravitate towards the same thing. It's really weird.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: It's really I.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Would want first thing, I gravitate towards nice nice. I
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: would want them nice. My husband is nice, and I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: know that sounds very trite, but I would want I'd
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: be very much on the look at smart or and smart.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, and he loves his Jenfestler, Yes, that's good advice.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I feel like you give really good advice.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: It's a nice thing to say.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Jen always. Jen is like very real, thank you.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, anyway, moving to it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: You care.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: You don't just like give advice that makes you sound good.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: You give advice that's real.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: You do well. I mean, I'd love to go keep
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: going with this, but maybe do another thing.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: More about me, more, me.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Me, me, me me.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Olivia. She's seeing two guys right now,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and I defer too. She's decided to date more more.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: She's decided to date more like men do. But things
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: are starting to get serious with both of them, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: she likes them for two different reasons. I know I
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: can't see them both forever. How should I figure out
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: which one I should keep and which one I should
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: break up with?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I would say, whoever you sleep better with at night?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Sleep sleep or sleep sleep like zz Like.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I feel like anytime I was in a relationship that
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: was good, I would sleep like a baby, And anytime
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I was dating someone where I couldn't sleep all night
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: and I just had all these like like weird thoughts
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: in my mind, like even though he was a great guy,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: but I just had these like things that would go
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: in the back of my mind. I'm like, no, I
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: don't trust him. There's something about him. I don't trust
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: even though he's giving me all this stuff like no,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: So I think, whoever you sleep with the best I've
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: dated guys, you guys were I could not sleep at
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: all and I was like that's my body and God
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: talking and me telling me he's not the guy. Yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: So I would break up with guys because I couldn't
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: sleep next to him. I'm like, I can't be with
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: this guy. I don't sleep.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: So you weren't. You were uncomfortable, You weren't You couldn't
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: feel like you could relax.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or like any won't like gives you anxiety, Like
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: if they don't call you back, it gives you anxiety.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like those kind of some people are like,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: oh my god, that's their tone and like lift, Like
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: that is not a serotonin lift. That is a do
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: not text be with that person that your body is
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: saying there's too much that there's there's too much attached
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: to that phone call. Used to be with someone that
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: makes you feel good about yourself, like you're saying sleep
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: feel good about yourself, like you want to me better,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: like I just I mean, I want to be in
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: a relationship where I feel better. I don't want to
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: be in a relationship or on my back foot I've
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: been in not all my life.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Or you can always flip a coin. I do that
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: a lot to you, guys. I'm like this week or
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: next share break up with them this week or next
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: a flipal coin. I'm like, no, this week, Okay, we're
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: moving on.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Well. I also think you don't have to make that
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: choice until you have to make that choice, Like I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: don't know if you know, unless there's a ring on
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: your finger or this you know, push or exclusivity, Why
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: can't you keep dating them both.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Like as long as they know, though, I don't think
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: it's fair.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's fair to be in two different.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Two relationships if you haven't said to them like we're
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: not we're not committing because that's just not fair. That's
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: like leading two people on. And you know that just
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: is like that you're never you're never going to sleep
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: all at night because you're not doing like nice things
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: like that's just I don't think that's fair.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: What about your listen interesting? I feel like it's hard
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: to get to know someone unless you spend a lot
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: of time with them and invest with like invest in
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: them and they invest in you. Right, So that's one person, right,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: But in today's world, I feel like people like you
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: more if you're unavailable. So if you are dating two people,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: they both probably like you because you're unavailable, busy, You're
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: very busy, kind of crazy. But it's kind of it's
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: working out for her with these two guys because she
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: doesn't have as much time. She's juggling two guys, right.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: But then at the same time, it's like you have
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: to really get to, you know, invest in one person.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: So data is hard to twenty twenty five. You have
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: to navigate each relationship like different. I think each relation,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: each relationship is like unique and different, and you have
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: to handle it and take an approach that's like just
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: made for that one relationship.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I see a question. It's like glaring
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: at me. It's from Cheryl. She's saying, going into my
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: second marriage and I'm set on having a pren at
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: this time. My fiancee is hesitant that the prenup will
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: ruined the finances, possibly of his kids from his first marriage.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: How do I make him see my side of things.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm a big prenup fan.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am too. It's just it's better to understand
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: what you're signing up for. And I think it instead
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: of fighting each other and whatever it is, I think
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: you have to go into a relationship once you committed
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: to each other, like you're going to get remarried, then
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: you know exactly what it is, you.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, I mean first time around, maybe you like,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: now you've seen that even though you go into something forever,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: it doesn't always end up being forever. So now you're
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: on your second time around, specifically, I don't know. I
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: don't know I would tell any one of my friends.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, unless you're already locked up, like this is
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: in trust or whatever, like that's totally different. But I
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: think it's I definitely think it's a good thing to do.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Kelly, you had the whole issue with this in your
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: last relationship.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Yeahs are a good thing. I think it's it's an
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: you know what you're getting out of the situation, best case,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: worst case. Like I just I hate the unknown.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You know you don't know what it is.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: It's much better put in writing and understand what you're
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: sending up for. I tell my kids this, like my
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: son's in the NBA. I'm like, I don't know when
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get married, but when you do, you're defining
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: an adoprena.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, of course I hear you. This question is
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: really I'm just loving it, but you guys can answer.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: It started seeing a man who's sixty three, and when
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: we got to the point where we were sharing kinks
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and what we like, he told me he likes watching
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: porn daily. That feels like cheating to me. Am I wrong?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Go, I think it's definitely cheating. I would feel jealous.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I just know my personality like Kelly, are the same?
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: That sounds like right like, I'm not I'm not cool
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: with that because you're cheating on me. Someone else is
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: making you feel good and it's not me, So you're
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: not my guy.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I would be so jealous.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I honestly, I wouldn't. I'm not I do.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I know. I mean that's it's like
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: feels like I'm giving out a lot of information. But
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't know. That doesn't maybe
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: because I've watched I watch not any I'm fifty seven
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: years old.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Watching porn every now and then. It's different. But I'm saying,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: if you're watching it every single day, he's got a
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: full on a relationship with this girl, even though it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: in his mind.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a problem to watch porn every
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: day period. Yes, I agree with you. That's it's getting.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: It's a little weird. But I don't really like if
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I think that my man is upstairs in the bathroom
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and he's on the phone, it doesn't bother me. That
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: would not bother me. But but you know, I know
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: it does bother a lot of women. Yeah, I don't
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: know why it doesn't. I don't know why it doesn't
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: bother me. I don't know. I also because like, do
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you guys watch porn?
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: No, I mean I have in the past some, but
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not like a porn watcher.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So Hannah said John on divorce is finally settled.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I'm having a divorce party next month. What should my
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: rider die friends and I do to celebrate? You'd be
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: good at this one.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I think your ride or die girlfriends should do something
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: that just like that's like brings you together, like we
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: were talking about before, Like I feel like female friendships
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: are so important and so something that's like a celebration
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: of the friendship I think is like the best thing
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: to do. I don't think like parties with like you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: blow up penises or something like that, Like I mean
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: that's not but just like things that really make the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: group bond is something that like I would.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Want to do, like go to Paris and net proissants
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: right unavailable, Let's go. I'm like, that's that's what makes
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: me want to you know what I mean, have a
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: party with or without a man, like go skiing with
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: your girlfriends.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I take you know, having the idea of having a
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: party after because you're getting divorced is so healthy as
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: opposed to like sinking into divorced. And I got divorced.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I mean you're going to go through that obviously, but
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I think like celebrating this new chat with your girlfriends.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's such a great idea and like being.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Like having them be a part of it. I think
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: like we were talking about before about like friendships, and
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I feel like some female friendships get really intimidated by
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: at this time the stage of our life, Like if
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: you're with someone else and they're like, you're never going
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: to be available anymore because you're always going to be
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: with ex or why And so if you can do
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: something where you like bond and you have this moment,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: then you know you always have something to remember you. No,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: like ar Paris is always a good idea, like.
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• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Tom says, starting to date again, losing my wife, trying
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: to navigate the online thing for the first time. What
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: should I be putting on my profile? What do you avoid?
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: What kind of pictures do women like to see?
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I'll let you guys answer that. Oh Jenna that if
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you don't, oh you know this one, listen, I can
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: tell you, well, I haven't. Like when Jeff and I
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: were separated, it wasn't that wasn't that much online dating.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: That's how long ago there was. But if you asked me,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: like if I go through it with my daughter or
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: my son, like and there not that my son doesn't
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: share with me about this stuff, but like my daughter
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: and or what she's looking at. I guess the kind
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: of corny, hokey answer is you want your profile to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: represent the best of you, but not not something made
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: up or something fabricated, like here's who I am.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: You're saying you should be authentic. Whatever you're authentic, take
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: it to be authentic.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I think you can also, you know, talk about the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: best parts of you or show the best pictures of you.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, Also, I don't know if I'm looking
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: on someone's profile and it's I feel like it's honest
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and it said I've it says let's say it says
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I've struggled with something like I like,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of showing a little bit of vulnerability.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: But you guys know, you weigh in now you tell me.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: So if I see a guy that's that strugg with anything,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm like, I don't need a nut job.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: No, thanks, fair enough.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I you know what's funny, because I started a dating
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: app called day dot com. Did Yeah, So I look
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: at a lot of dating apps. I researched a lot
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: of dating apps before, and I feel like I don't
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: like when guys take selfies. Like to me, when I
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: look at the dating apps, I'm like, I don't like
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: the selfies, Like I think it's cooler when guys show
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: their family their friends. It's more like chill, not so formal,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: like not so much with the selfies or the picture
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: in front of the car like that to me just
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: looses like cheesy.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, Like if you're like, you know.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: If you're playing tennis with your friends, if you're on
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: a boat with your friends, like that to me is like, oh,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: he's got a lot of people that like him. Okay,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: so he's a good person.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Who knows people.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, them too, because I'm like, oh, he's okay, but
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: his friends are really cute. But I think you're just
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: posting photos of yourself selfies. It just gives me like
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: pick Like I don't I think shirtless nothing at the
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: jam Yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: No baseball caps, no sunglasses. Like I agree with Larsa too, like.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Maybe just like your parents, your siblings or your kids
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: or stuff like that. I'm like, oh, he's so cute.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: He has like a normal family, like you know, like
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: that's kind of cute, like a real life your photos
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: you know what what you were talking about, Jen, Like
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I struggle with depression.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I don't mean, you know, I wouldn't. I would also
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: want any of that only because I feel like all
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: of the profiles are so you know, you're they they
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: don't always feel authentic. And so when I say struggle,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I definitely don't mean like, well, right now I'm struggling
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to get off Heroin, like that's probably not going to
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: take your lot dates right, but more like, you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I've struggled. I'm trying to
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: think of like like I've struggled with uh, I've struggled
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: with finding relationships that are who's putting that.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: In a profile?
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe not Larsa.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I interview the girl who was recently divorced, and she
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: actually did a really good good job at being like,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: very authentic to who she was, the things she likes,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: things that she likes to do. She was very positive
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: and and her profile like just seemed so real. And
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I think that that's one thing that people are like,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: whichuld I say, should I you know, like I feel like, yeah,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: this is always more just be like I love my
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: friends and family, you know whatever, Like Thanksgiving my favorite
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: favorite holiday, whatever it is. But I think that like
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: trying to lure someone in with some kind of tagline
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: or something I think is really like a no no zone.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: What about like what they said like struggle with staying home?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I struggle with like I'm always feeling like I have
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: to be on the go or but I don't know,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I don't I think what I'm getting at. You're probably right.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I probably would see the word struggle. Maybe I would
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: run for the hills. But I'm looking for authentic, Like
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: everybody's got their shit.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: You guys, it's called biobating.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: What's that when you do that in your bio?
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Biobating it's when they make their bio too good.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: They have up writing. Is that what you're saying?
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their bio is like too much information about them
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: so that they can lure you in, so you're like, Wow,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: this person is so great. I mean it's like you know,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Jen was saying too like at the beginning, like how
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: you know, go out and meet people because you never
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: know who that's going to be, what they're going to
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: be like, and their idiosyncrasies to you may be super
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: charming and to someone else, they mean may be the
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: ick but like you don't know, but if someone's giving
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: you this, like you know, Daniel Steele novel of their
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: their bio, I mean like how it's like difficult to
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: be like, oh my, oh my god, this guy's perfect.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: And love you said Daniel Steele. Did you know who
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: that is? Larsa, I don't know how old you are.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: You look you look very young. I know old Kelly
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: is because we're about the same. I know what Danielle
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Steel is.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, she's iconic romance novelist of all time,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: of all time. So yeah, no biobaiting. Just I think
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: that just being like authentic. I mean, Larsa, you're the you.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I have love that you have this dating app, So
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: tell us, tell us, like, give us three things that
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: you think resonate.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: On a on a bio for a dating app, like
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: I you know, like Jen said, I think someone being authentic.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I think just sharing what you're looking for and sharing
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: you know where you are in life. I feel like
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of people on dating apps are looking for
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: specific things. First, there's some people just looking to hook up,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: There's some people just want to partner, and then there's
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: some people looking for a long term commitment. You know,
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: marriage stuff like that. So I think just being authentic
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: as to what you want in a relationship, what you're
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: looking for, you know, I don't like the mixed signal thing,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: like I'm not good with that. I like people to
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: if you don't know what you want, I'm not going
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: to know you know what you want. So it's like,
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: just figure out what you want before you get on
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: dating apps and what you're looking for, and then go
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: on date dot com. It is basically powered by AI.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: It's it eliminates getting catfished. You have to use the
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: camera from the actual app to upload your profile picture.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: You can't use a photo that's overly edited.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: That's brilliant.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you can ask xt a group of
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: people for like, if you're talking to five guys just
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: getting to know them, you can send five guys the
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: same message like hey guys, what are your plans this weekend?
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: You can send multiple messages. You can FaceTime and video
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: call from the actual app. So a lot of times
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: people go on dating apps and then they're like, oh,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: let's take this, let me call you or let me
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: text you, and it's like I'm still getting to know you.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I want you to have my
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: phone number, chat and get to know each other on
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: the actual app, and day dot com doesn't sell it
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: your personal information. We don't even have your personal information.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: For instance, Jen, you could be Jen sixty nine sixty nine,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: you know, like you know, it's not any personal You
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: don't have to full name your name.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: That's actually who I am, Yes, it actually is. That
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: would be my name on a dating app.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Like, you don't have to get all your personal information.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: You can go on there and see if you like anyone.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I literally just sent all these screen shouts to my
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: girlfriends because they're on day dot com but they hadn't
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: been on in a couple of weeks, and I'm like,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: oh my god, this guy's so hot. You have to
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: message you. Oh my god this And I was screenshotting
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: and sending them all these guys. I was like, these
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: guys are like finance guys. They're cute, they're young, and
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: go on the app.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Love that dot com.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Day dot Com. Okay, so she's been divorced twice and
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: had a shortened engagement that almost flopped. I'm over I'm
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: kind of over guys my own age, and I think
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I should try dating ten years younger. What's the good
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: and the bad I should expect?
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, So for me, I think dating someone younger is
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: more fun. I think that when you're young, when you're
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: dating a younger guy, they don't have all the baggage
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: that the older guys have. The older guys are like
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: kind of grumpier. I think as guys get older, they
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: kind of get settled in their ways and they like
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: things done the same way every single day. You know,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: that's my personal experience. But I think you get a
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: younger guy, they're more open to doing different things. They'll
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: they'll make you feel younger. You're like playing video games
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: like you guys. I have a video game set sitting
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: here because my boyfriend plays video games. Okay, So you know,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: I think it's definitely more fun dating a younger guy,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: for sure. So that's the positive. The negative is you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: have to go through all the things you've learned in
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: your thirties and forties all over again. So you're kind
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: of reliving all your thirties and forties with this person,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: and they don't have as much experience as you when
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: it comes down to all the bad things that you've experienced.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: So I'm constantly when I'm dealing with my boyfriend, I'm like,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: and he tells me something, I'm like, you better put
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: into writing, you better, you know. I feel like i'm
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: always because I've been burned because I have years over
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: him that I feel like I have to, you know,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: kind of go through these things with him. He trusts everyone,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: and I'm in a place in my life where I've
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: been burned, so I don't trust everyone that I do
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: business with. I'm like, it could go bad, it could
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: go left, and so there's like a learning curve that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: you have to help with.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would only date older. If I was saying, oh,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't know, you wouldn't I would. You're saying about
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the guy being grumpy and now wanting I'm grumpy. I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: want to sit around. Don't try to get me to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: do new things. I want to sit around. I want
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to watch movies. I want to like, you know, laugh.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want any guy I'm not interested in going
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: on your motorcycle or I don't want to get out
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: of here. I want a guy who's old, who will
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  Speaker 1: sit next to me because I'm old and leave me alone.
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  Speaker 2: I do not want that. I am I am.
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  Speaker 3: My sister sent me a picture. My sister's ten years
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  Speaker 3: younger than me, and she sent me a picture of
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  Speaker 3: a guy that she run into a like, because my
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  Speaker 3: sister still lives in Chicago, where we grew up. And
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  Speaker 3: she sent me a picture of a guy that she
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  Speaker 3: went high school with. And I promise you, this guy
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  Speaker 3: looked like he was thirty years older than us. And
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  Speaker 3: I was, like, men sometimes age worse than women. We're
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: in a group of women, Like our group of women
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  Speaker 3: take care of ourselves. We look good, we look younger,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and it's hard to date someone that does
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  Speaker 3: not take care of themselves like that.
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  Speaker 1: And older guys agree. I always dated older. I always
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  Speaker 1: I did too, Jen I did too.
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  Speaker 3: When I was, you know, twenty two, I married a
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  Speaker 3: guy ten years older. And that was the the guys
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  Speaker 3: who were older. But then when you hit a certain age,
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  Speaker 3: you gravitate toward energy and where you are. And I
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  Speaker 3: feel like my energy is really young, and I attract
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  Speaker 3: young because I'm ready to do whatever or go wherever,
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  Speaker 3: like I'd like to have fun, I like to plan things,
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  Speaker 3: and I just feel like I gravitate toward younger, and
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  Speaker 3: younger tends to gravitate towards me and see it.
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  Speaker 2: What about you, cal You know, I've dated so many
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  Speaker 2: different ages. My ex husband was so much older that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: I was. I got married when I was very young,
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  Speaker 2: and then I dated a guy that was young, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of guys that were younger than me. And I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: understand what Mars is saying, like I do love because
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I have a young spirit as well. I think I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: have like arrested adolescens. Honestly, Like I think it's like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like caught in like.
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  Speaker 3: My life state that way. That's good, you know what.
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  Speaker 2: I like the way that I am. But a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are like, oh my god, you're so mature.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm actually not immature. I just like to
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  Speaker 2: have a good time and I'm just very positive. So
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I like being around. But I feel like there's no
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  Speaker 2: age to that. And I feel like I've dated guys
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  Speaker 2: that are younger, that are old souls. I feel like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I've dated guys that are older that are you know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: that are very young. I you know, it's like it's
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  Speaker 2: really depends on the actual person. But I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to teach someone something. I don't want to say, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, get that in writing, like I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I want them to.
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  Speaker 2: Say get that.
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  Speaker 3: In writing, you're saying you want them to teach you.
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  Speaker 3: You still want to learn.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a curious person, learn more.
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  Speaker 3: I just think that when you date younger guys, you're
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  Speaker 3: you're a little bit more you know, jaded as you
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  Speaker 3: get older, Like you're you've seen, you know, situations that
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  Speaker 3: like when you're younger, Like if I were to tell
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  Speaker 3: my younger self, like the things I thought I knew
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  Speaker 3: at thirty and what I know today is definitely different,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: you know, it's definitely different.
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  Speaker 2: It's just so funny because like my kids, Like when
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: I say to my kids, they're twenty five and twenty
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, you know, he's just a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years younger. My daughter's like, oh my god, he's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: so young. Or I'll be like he's just a couple
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: of years older than you. He's thirty and my daughter's like,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: what so old. I'm like, oh my god, they're like
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  Speaker 2: so weird about age where I guess, you know, like
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: you know, we are like more open to like different ages.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, clearly, I've yeah, mary to.
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  Speaker 3: Like someone so much older, so I used to be
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: the guy that was my age, you guys, and he
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: was so immature, and I was like, when I broke
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: up with him, I was like, you know what, there's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: a reason why I dated you, And it was literally
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: to prove that age is nothing but a number. You
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: are so immature that, like, I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: I would not like that at any age. I can't
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: outstand immaturity. But I'm telling you I am. I like
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to move now at a slow pace, and I make
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: no apologies for it. I don't want to skydive. I'm
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: not interested in I dive.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: We're like, no one's getting on a motorcycle, no one's skydiving.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: It's just like fun dinners.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I like fun dinners.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's interesting, my husband met him, he would
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  Speaker 3: love him because all my friends that have husbands that
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: are older, I feel like I have younger friends and
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: then I have older friends. I'm kind of that person.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: But when I bring my boyfriend and dinners with my
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: friends who have older husbands, they are obsessed with Joff.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: They're obsessed with him. They love him, they like they
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: have great conversations.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: And it works that no doubt, because Jef is probably
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a wonderful, warm, kind, smart man so younger older that is,
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  Speaker 1: you know definitely what I'm picturing. I don't know, Listen,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: maybe I just I am old beyond my years. I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: think I'm eighty. Really I'm ready to go. Like I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: look at assisted living places and I think, what's so bad?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I could totally do that. I could go out of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: my little apartment and go downstairs and the meal is
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: ready and go to happy hour with the old people.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Find me and my sister. My sister was like, oh
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: my god, do you realize we're going to be like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: eighty and X amount of years. I'm like, well, you
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: shut the hell up. Like so, I was like, you know,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: when we get old and our kids come over our
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: house with their kids, I'm like, shut up up, who
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: wants to hear this? My kids are not getting married,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: They're living with me forever.
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  Speaker 2: Like no, Larsa, thank you so much. Wow, you listeners
• 1:06:11
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