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Steve Price | 20 September · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: If this is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the program. I'm James
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  Speaker 2: Macpherson filling in for Steve Price. Tonight, Sidney University vice
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  Speaker 2: Chancellor Mark Scott admits he failed Jewish staff and students.
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  Speaker 3: The testimonials are heartbreaking and unacceptable and for that I
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  Speaker 3: am sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but what took him so long?
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  Speaker 2: Also tonight, Australia bursting at the seams as we hit
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  Speaker 2: another population milestone, putting more pressure on housing and the
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  Speaker 2: cost of living. Our Friday regular Campbell Newman is fired
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  Speaker 2: up and he'll join me shortly. Plus, what better way
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  Speaker 2: to connect with voters than a star studded sit down.
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  Speaker 4: Interview with Oprah Winfrey.
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you Kamala Harris's latest stunt a little later,
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  Speaker 2: but first I watched him despare this week as Pope
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  Speaker 2: Francis told and interfaith gathering in Singapore that the Christian
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  Speaker 2: faith was just one of many roads to God. He
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  Speaker 2: said through an interpreter, it doesn't matter if you seek
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  Speaker 2: or Muslim.
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  Speaker 4: Or Hindu or Christian. It's all the same thing, and
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  Speaker 4: it's all good. Have a listen.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things that struck me about all of you.
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  Speaker 5: Here is your ability to engage an inner religious dialogue.
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  Speaker 5: And this is very important because if we start to
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  Speaker 5: fight amongst ourselves and saying my religion is more important
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  Speaker 5: than yours, My religion is true, yours is not.
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  Speaker 1: Where will that lead us?
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  Speaker 5: Because every religion is a way to arrive at God.
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  Speaker 5: There's only one God in each of us is a language,
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  Speaker 5: so to speak, in order to arrive at God.
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  Speaker 4: Is the Pope Catholic?
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  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, That's not a rhetorical question. Some
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  Speaker 2: sort is a wonderful admission that we're all right in
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  Speaker 2: our own way. Others sort is a humble confession that
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  Speaker 2: none of us can claim to be right, but most
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  Speaker 2: and I suspect the Pontiff himself saw it as a
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  Speaker 2: way of being inclusive.
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  Speaker 4: Ah. Yes, inclusiveness. It's become the number one priority in
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  Speaker 4: our culture.
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  Speaker 6: Identity, belonging, representation, connection, inclusion around.
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  Speaker 7: Inclusion the next chapter of inclusion.
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  Speaker 2: Inclusion and equity all very good, but to be inclusive
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  Speaker 2: you have to include people around something. Our culture, having
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  Speaker 2: given up on truth, is trying to include people around
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  Speaker 2: inclusion and without shared values. Thanks to decades of multiculturalism,
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  Speaker 2: we're trying to create social cohesion around a shared desire
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  Speaker 2: for social cohesion.
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  Speaker 4: It's a fool's errand because none of it makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: In order to be inclusive, the Pope told those assembled
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  Speaker 2: that no one should say their religion was more important
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  Speaker 2: or truer than anyone else's. Well, if you have to
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  Speaker 2: deny truth in order to be inclusive, then how valuable
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  Speaker 2: is that inclusion. If inclusion is based on a denial
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  Speaker 2: of the truth, then aren't you including people in a lie?
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  Speaker 2: And if inclusion is only made possible by inviting everyone
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  Speaker 2: to close their eyes to reality, then aren't you seeking
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  Speaker 2: to include everyone in a kind of insanity. The Western
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  Speaker 2: world is in crisis right now. Yes, Inflation and housing
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  Speaker 2: and energy and security, the cost of living, all of
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  Speaker 2: those things are enormous challenges. But the greatest crisis we're
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  Speaker 2: facing is one of reality and of meaning. In the
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  Speaker 2: Western world, we're now so confused. We the're not say
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  Speaker 2: for sure what a woman is?
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  Speaker 4: Can you provide a definition for the word woman?
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  Speaker 8: Can I provide a definition?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I can't.
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  Speaker 9: You can't.
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  Speaker 2: Not in contact, The US Supreme Court nominee was not
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  Speaker 2: alone in her confusion. Remember Australia's one time chief medical
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  Speaker 2: officer Brendan Murphy.
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  Speaker 8: Can someone please provide me with a definition of what
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  Speaker 8: a woman is? Department of Health, definition of a man,
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  Speaker 8: definition of a woman? Anyone. It's pretty basic, basic stuff,
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  Speaker 8: Professor Murphy.
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  Speaker 10: I think there are there are a variety of definitions.
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  Speaker 8: And I think the simple one perhaps could give it.
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  Speaker 1: A more fulsome answer. We should take that on note.
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  Speaker 8: You're going to take on notice the question of what
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  Speaker 8: a woman is.
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  Speaker 10: It's a very it's a very.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very contested space at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: We are now so befuddled that we boast there are
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  Speaker 2: dozens of genders and new ones appearing all the time.
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  Speaker 4: How many genders are they?
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  Speaker 11: Infinite?
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  Speaker 4: Infinite?
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  Speaker 8: Think they're infinite genders?
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  Speaker 4: Why do you say that? Because I think I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: You can't put things in boundaries.
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  Speaker 10: You can define yourself as whatever you want, and I
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  Speaker 10: don't have a number for it, So it's infinite for me.
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  Speaker 4: What do you identify as?
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  Speaker 10: I identify as female.
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  Speaker 7: Identify as male?
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  Speaker 4: How many genders are there?
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  Speaker 1: God?
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  Speaker 10: I don't know, Like.
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  Speaker 1: I identify as a guy.
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  Speaker 8: But if someone's going to be happier not following that
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  Speaker 8: binary thing, do you.
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  Speaker 1: How many genders are there, there's a spectrum of genders.
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  Speaker 7: You can't really say like unlimited amount.
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  Speaker 2: You would say, seriously, we're a society that's producing guided
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  Speaker 2: missiles and misguided men. We can fire rockets to the stars.
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  Speaker 2: We just can't say with any certainty which way is up. Heck,
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  Speaker 2: we can't even look down in the shower and say
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  Speaker 2: for certain we know that any of it means. Have
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  Speaker 2: listened to leader of the Liberal Democrats in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: Sir Edward Davey.
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  Speaker 12: Can a woman have a penis?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'll just answer that question. They can listen.
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  Speaker 7: I've made it really clear that if people the vast
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  Speaker 7: majority of people will have the same gender as their
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  Speaker 7: biological sex, but a small number one.
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  Speaker 4: So women can't have a penis.
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  Speaker 7: Well, quite clearly.
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood celebrities no longer talk about truth, except as it
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  Speaker 2: relates to themselves. The only truth I acknowledge is my truth,
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  Speaker 2: which may be the opposite of your truth. But if
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  Speaker 2: you and I are saying opposite things, how can they
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  Speaker 2: both be true? Politicians, taking their cues from culture as
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  Speaker 2: they have always done, have given up talking about truth
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  Speaker 2: and falsehoods. Instead, they speak of misinformation and disinformation. The
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  Speaker 2: ultimate in subjective terms, which they now seek to enshrine into.
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  Speaker 6: Law, combating seriously harmful miss and disinformation, miss and disinformation.
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  Speaker 1: Misinformation and disinformation.
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  Speaker 8: We've seen where misinformation takes hold, it can spread like wildfire.
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  Speaker 2: So we increasingly have laws that are entirely subjective because
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  Speaker 2: having done away with objective truth, will subjectivity is all
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  Speaker 2: we have left. If a man feels like he's a woman,
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  Speaker 2: then most of our state governments will readily change his
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  Speaker 2: birth certificate to reflect his feelings. And who's anyone to argue.
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  Speaker 2: China and Russia and Iran and North Korea may well
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  Speaker 2: be threats, but the greatest existential threat facing the Western
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  Speaker 2: world is the abandonment of truth. When everything, even the
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  Speaker 2: law of the land, are subjective, then the only way.
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  Speaker 4: To determine what is right is through might.
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  Speaker 2: Having denied any reality beyond our own feelings, which, let's
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  Speaker 2: face it, aren't always reliable, there's no authority beyond ourselves
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  Speaker 2: to whom we can appeal, and so to ensure inclusion
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  Speaker 2: and social cohesion, the government benevolently steps in state control.
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  Speaker 2: Titans and bureaucratic tribunals are given the power to rule
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  Speaker 2: on everything We say, and even on what we think.
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  Speaker 2: There are unseerious politicians in the UK, the country that
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  Speaker 2: gave the world the Magna Carta, who now seriously believe
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  Speaker 2: the state should be able to prosecute citizens for praying
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  Speaker 2: in their heads if those private thoughts violate the state's ideals.
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  Speaker 13: Is used to be part of the protest, be praying
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  Speaker 13: on what you're playing my head?
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  Speaker 1: So i'll ask you on more.
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  Speaker 6: Will you voluntarily come with us now to the police
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  Speaker 6: station for me to ask you some question?
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  Speaker 14: Isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Professing to be wise? We've become fools. We are the
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  Speaker 2: sailor who, having given up on trying to navigate by
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  Speaker 2: the stars, because well, he feels that's too arbitrary, he
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  Speaker 2: decided to tie his lamp to his ship's mast.
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  Speaker 4: And navigate by that.
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  Speaker 2: It is, of course, only a matter of time before
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  Speaker 2: he'll crash into the rocks, and even then he'll be
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  Speaker 2: completely clueless as to why he ran aground. No doubt,
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  Speaker 2: lawyers will find someone he can sue, and the compensation
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  Speaker 2: payout will enable him to buy a bigger boat so
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  Speaker 2: he can do it all over again and again and again.
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  Speaker 2: The only hope for our sailor who, of course, is
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  Speaker 2: a metaphor for Western culture, which is another way of
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  Speaker 2: saying you and I is that he once again places
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  Speaker 2: his trust in the heavens. But how can men rediscover
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  Speaker 2: truth and reality when even the Pope seems to have
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  Speaker 2: given up on believing in God. Well, Australia is in
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  Speaker 2: the grip of a housing crisis, and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's much doubt about the reasons for it. New data
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  Speaker 2: from the Bureau of Statistic DIX has revealed the nation
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  Speaker 2: is now home to twenty seven million people. Our population
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  Speaker 2: grew by six hundred and fifteen thousand, three hundred over
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  Speaker 2: the past twelve months, and overseas migration accounted for eighty
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  Speaker 2: three percent of that. Labour has ramped up immigration numbers
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  Speaker 2: and experts are now saying what the rest of us
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  Speaker 2: realized a long time ago, governments haven't planned for the growth.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me to discuss this and much more is our
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  Speaker 2: Friday regular former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman Campbell, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining me tonight. No wonder there's a housing and cost
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  Speaker 2: of living crisis. Six hundred and fifteen thousand extra people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost the population of the Gold Coast
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  Speaker 2: added to the nation in just twelve.
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  Speaker 13: Months, James, it's a staggering number. Another one I could
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  Speaker 13: give you is that since twenty late twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 13: so in three years we've taken in two million people.
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  Speaker 13: That's another state of South Australia. Last week months here
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  Speaker 13: in Queensland, we've taken over I think about one hundred
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  Speaker 13: and thirty thousand the city of Mackay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they are unprecedented levels.
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  Speaker 13: Of new arrivals and it is without doubt putting pressure
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  Speaker 13: on the cost of living and on particularly rents and
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  Speaker 13: the cost of buying a house. And that's not then
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  Speaker 13: to cover the facts that the pressure on schools, on
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  Speaker 13: the road system, on public transport.
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  Speaker 1: And of course on hospitals.
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  Speaker 13: One of the big things we could be doing, by
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  Speaker 13: the way, on housing is to u is in one word,
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  Speaker 13: it's deregulation. There is so much red tape on actually
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  Speaker 13: building new homes that's absolutely killer. The private sector was unshackled.
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  Speaker 13: Perhaps we do a lot better job of at least
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  Speaker 13: dealing with that part of the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when I invite family to come and
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  Speaker 2: stay at my place, I don't get them all there
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  Speaker 2: and then think, oh, I've actually got nowhere to put them.
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  Speaker 2: You'd think the government would think ahead. Most of us do.
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  Speaker 2: Senator Murray Watt says, Labor recognizes that migration numbers need
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  Speaker 2: to be sustainable.
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  Speaker 4: Have a listened.
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  Speaker 6: We recognize that we need to make sure that the
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  Speaker 6: numbers of migrants that we have coming to Australia is sustainable,
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  Speaker 6: and that's exactly why we've taken a range of actions
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  Speaker 6: to bring that number down. We're starting to see the
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  Speaker 6: results of that, and of course a number of the
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  Speaker 6: measures that we've taken took effect after March, so I
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  Speaker 6: would expect that we'd see that number four further.
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  Speaker 2: Campbell, isn't it a bit late to be talking about
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  Speaker 2: sustainability when you've already bought them here with no homes.
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  Speaker 13: Look, James, that is absolute bull dust from Murray Watt,
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  Speaker 13: who's just another Labor talker. And they will talk and
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  Speaker 13: they will talk, and they'll talk underwater with a snorkel.
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  Speaker 1: Mate.
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  Speaker 13: You know, he sat in the cabinet as these unpreceded
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  Speaker 13: numbers of people have come in.
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  Speaker 1: They have been totally aslape.
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  Speaker 13: They're elected over two years ago, and they should have
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  Speaker 13: been acting a long time ago, and again on the
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  Speaker 13: housing issue, it's deregulation.
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  Speaker 1: We would be far far better.
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  Speaker 13: Off if we let the private sector get on and
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  Speaker 13: deliver the new homes. In the United States, there's been
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  Speaker 13: studies done between say, cities like New York and then
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  Speaker 13: Houston in Texas, and the difference is New York's got
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  Speaker 13: tight planning controls and housing regulations, codes, et cetera, whereas
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  Speaker 13: Houston many decades ago decided they're going to.
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  Speaker 1: Have very little in the way of that.
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  Speaker 13: Houston is affordable, they have low rents, it's a much
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  Speaker 13: easier city to get you get a home. There's the difference,
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  Speaker 13: Whereas in Australia we have for a long time gone
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  Speaker 13: down the road of places like New York and Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 13: That's why I've got a problem our building code. James
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  Speaker 13: keeps getting more and more stuff added on, fire regulation,
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  Speaker 13: smoke detectors, universal access, the size of doors. It just
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  Speaker 13: goes on and on and on. Any builder will tell
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  Speaker 13: you constantly confronted with new requirements that just add cost.
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  Speaker 13: There's the charges from local government, and there's the delays
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  Speaker 13: in getting things approved.
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  Speaker 1: This is self inflicted.
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  Speaker 13: It's self inflicted because government are shoveling people through the door.
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  Speaker 13: It's self inflicted because we don't allow the private sector
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  Speaker 13: to actually deliver those new homes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's infuriating.
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  Speaker 2: The nuclear power scare mongering is sparked up again with
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  Speaker 2: new labor modeling, new labor modeling.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go revealing the Coalitions nuclear.
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  Speaker 2: Plan would add six hundred and sixty five dollars a
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  Speaker 2: year to the average power bill. Question what's more likely
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  Speaker 2: to make your life miserable an explosion in a nuclear
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  Speaker 2: power plant or labor modeling on power prices?
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  Speaker 4: Is what Peter Dutton had to say.
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  Speaker 9: I just think we need to deal with reality here.
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  Speaker 9: And this is Chris Bowen who promised before the election
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  Speaker 9: that power prices had come down by two hundred and
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  Speaker 9: seventy five dollars. They've gone up by one thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 9: He's predicting now that in twenty thirty seven your electricity
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  Speaker 9: bill will go up by six hundred and fifty dollars.
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  Speaker 9: Is that credible? Does anyone believe what Chris Baron has
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  Speaker 9: to say?
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  Speaker 4: I suspect not Campbell.
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  Speaker 2: There's been support for nuclear even inner city seats. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think Chris Bowen is running scared, hence this scare campaign.
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  Speaker 13: Look, it's absolute desperation and they continue to say these
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  Speaker 13: sorts of things. I think actually Peter Dutton's response was
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  Speaker 13: pretty good. How can you trust labor parties generated modeling?
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  Speaker 13: We should have been a lot better off by now.
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  Speaker 13: But in terms of a nuclear and the things that
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  Speaker 13: he's saying, it does smack of desperation. Australians are getting
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  Speaker 13: the message that the renewables roll out is actually costing
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  Speaker 13: them in the hip pocket. I mean, for example, my
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  Speaker 13: own home, we're lucky enough to have been able to
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  Speaker 13: afford to put solar panels on.
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  Speaker 1: We've got some batteries as well.
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  Speaker 13: And guess what, our power bills keep going up as
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  Speaker 13: well because the people in the State Government of the
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  Speaker 13: Queens and state government owned distribution and the retailers keep
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  Speaker 13: jacking up their prices. The more that they see revenue loss,
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  Speaker 13: the more they jack up. The prices are just being
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  Speaker 13: connected to the grid. The final thing is the time
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  Speaker 13: frames for nuclear I was speaking to a gentleman today
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  Speaker 13: who basically, let's call him a former trade VOI for
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  Speaker 13: one of the Australian states, who lives in Japan and
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  Speaker 13: travels of course all the time to career. He says
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  Speaker 13: the Koreans could deliver nuclear in five to six years
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  Speaker 13: in terms of the construction period. Here in Australia, they're
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  Speaker 13: ready to do it. We have people overseas, close partners
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  Speaker 13: of Australia who are ready to actually help us deliver
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  Speaker 13: our nuclear power industry and cheap base slide reliable power
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  Speaker 13: in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just quickly, before I let you go, I want
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  Speaker 2: to ask you about the twenty thirty two Olympic Games,
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  Speaker 2: because they're starting to look like they could be an
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  Speaker 2: absolute international embarrassment the way things are going now. Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Miles ruled out redeveloping the Gabba in favor of spending
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  Speaker 2: one point six billion dollars upgrading Q two Stadium, which
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  Speaker 2: wasn't any good when it hosted the Commonwealth Games forty
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  Speaker 2: two years ago. It's three kilometers from the nearest train station,
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  Speaker 2: it only seats forty thousand people. But if the opposition
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  Speaker 2: leader David Chris A. Foley gets into office, he says
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  Speaker 2: he'll scrap that proposal and he'll start from scratch with
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  Speaker 2: a brand new study to work out what to do.
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  Speaker 4: What do you make of this?
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  Speaker 2: And is this just going to end up a massive
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  Speaker 2: embarrassment for the country.
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  Speaker 13: Well, I hope that Christaph Fawley is elected scraps q
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  Speaker 13: sack and then very quickly comes to a decision about
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  Speaker 13: the new stardium, because we will need a new stadium
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  Speaker 13: for my money. It's the proposal by the private sector at.
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton North Shore.
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  Speaker 13: It's a brown filled side export land and it's ready
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  Speaker 13: there to go. It's close to the gate by arterial.
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  Speaker 13: You can bring the public transport in, you can bring
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  Speaker 13: ferries from the river, you can have cruise ships tied
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  Speaker 13: up along the old wharves there and having fighting hotels.
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  Speaker 13: It's close to the airport and the private sector want
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  Speaker 13: to do. This is a PPP which will minimize the
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  Speaker 13: cost of the tax pace. I think christ of Fooley
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  Speaker 13: should have a red hot look at this one as
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  Speaker 13: an alternative to some of the other locations that are
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  Speaker 13: being talked about.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting to see which way
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  Speaker 2: he goes, if indeed he does win the election in October.
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  Speaker 2: Campbell Yman, thanks so much for your time this evening. Well,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: chaos has erupted in Lebanon with Israel launching a wave
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  Speaker 2: of air strikes against Hesbela targets. This, of course, follows
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  Speaker 2: two days of debilitating attacks on Hesbela after Israel blew
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  Speaker 2: up their pages and walkie talkies, leaving many terrorists blind
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  Speaker 2: and throwing the jihadist group communications into chaos. Hesbella's leader
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  Speaker 2: said the attacks were a declaration of war, sparking fears
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  Speaker 2: of a wider conflict in the Middle East. From more,
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined by Strategic Analysis Australia director Peter Jennings.
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  Speaker 4: Peter, thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Can you help people understand before we talk about the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: events of the last forty eight hours, help us understand
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: just why Israel cannot remain idle in the face of
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Hesbela's provocations.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: So, James, it's ironic to hear the Hesbela leaders say
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: that what Israel did by virtue of their strikes in
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: the last two days as a declaration of war, because
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: of course it comes against almost a year now of
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: relentless missile attacks from Hesbelah forces directed towards northern Israel,
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: and as you know, the consequence of that has been that,
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: in the order of eighty two, one hundred thousand Israelis
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: have been forced to leave their towns and villages in
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: the north of the country because they're at fear of
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: being hit by Hesbela missiles. That was the declaration of war,
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: and in effect it happened pretty simultaneously to the Hamas
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: attacks into southern Israel from Gaza on seven October last year.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: That's the broader content, and I think what we've seen
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: from Israel over the last forty eight hours or so
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: is really a message to Hesbella to say stop. This
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: is what we can do through a very focused attack
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: on military leaders. But if you force us to, we
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: will be prepared to invade sudden Lebanon. I think that
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: is the next step that Israel is capable of taking,
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: and that will inflict significant damage on Hesbalah. So we're
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: at a point now where I think israelis really trying
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: to force Hesbella into understanding that they cannot continue to
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: rain missiles down on Israeli towns and that there needs
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: to be some process which either stops this or Israel
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: is going to go after them, you know, once and
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: for all.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you make a great point, and thank you for
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: summarizing it so succinctly. I mean, if we in Australia
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: were being bombarded and we had eighty one hundred thousand
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Australians have to leave their suburbs because some foreign power
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: was launching missiles daily into Australia. We'd be outraged and
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: expect our government to do whatever it takes. But when
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Israel do the exact same thing for their citizens, all
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, the whole world thinks they're the bad guys.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: With regards the incredible attack on Hesbala terrorists through blowing
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: up their pages and then their walkie talkies. Just talk
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: me through the psyche of that for Hesbala leadership. How
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: humiliating was that for them?
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: Well, of course humiliating, And really what we've seen here
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: is one of the most targeted, proportionate military attacks that
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: I could point to over the course of decades and decades.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: This was a use of a weapon in the form
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: of these explosive devices, which only targeted military commanders and
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: perhaps the next level down of military leadership. It was
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: something that more than any missile attack or bomb or
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: artillery attack that one could point to. Specifically when for
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: people leaving, as we've seen from film footage, individuals standing
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: perhaps a meter away completely unharmed and the message to
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Hesbilla is we can go after not simply the foot soldiers,
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: not simply the people who are setting off the missiles
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: coming into Israel. We can go after the military leadership.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: They can probably go James all the way up to
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: the leadership of Nazrula, the head of Hesbella, And I
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: think this has got to put those Hesbela leaders into
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: the context of thinking, well, my life is now at
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: risk if we continue to prosecute this absurd military campaign
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: against Israel. And that is a very positive thing because
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: it creates the basis for de terrence. It may be
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: the one thing that might actually get Hesbela to stop.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: And so I think this has been a well designed,
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: clever move from Israel, one which gives them the initiative
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: after a year of frankly having to react to what's
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: being done to them. And you know, it may just
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: possibly be a reason for Hesbelat in our say we're
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: going to stop our attacks on Israel.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: It's funny, Peter.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Just before we came on air, I was looking online
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and I saw a mem of a Hesbilaji Hardi in
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the bathroom looking nervously at his electric toothbrush, not sure
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: if he should brush his teeth today or not. Just
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: before I let you go, you talked about what it
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: means for hes Bala, But this sends an even wider message,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: does it not? To other Iranian proxies and indeed to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Iran itself.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Yes, because we saw that very targeted attack into Tehran
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: a month or so ago, and no one in those
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: groups will be thinking that what's happened is the end
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: of it. I wouldn't be turning on my electronic car
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: ignition if I was one of those people, I probably
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: would be worried about my electric toothbrush, James, and any
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: other device which can be coordinated through electronic means. And
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: it shows that Israel is significantly ahead of their terrorist opponents,
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: and not without options to actually take the war to
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: the leaderships of these organizations. And I think that's what
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: we're going to see more of in the very near future.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Peter Jennings, appreciate your insights tonight, Thank you well, stick around.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Plenty more to come up on the show.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: The University of Sydney Vice Chancellor Mark Scott admits to
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: failing Jewish staff and students following weeks of ugly anti
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Israel protests on the campus he was supposed to be overseeing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: More on that with my.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Panel later, plus why the Democrat Party is enslaved to
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: its far left wing sounds similar to politics here, doesn't it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I'll be joined by author and commentator Andrew Claven.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: You won't want to miss him. He's coming up next well.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Islamic terror group Hezbilla have been firing rockets into northern
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Israel for the past eleven months, but this week, in
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: a daring operation that would not have been out of
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: place in a Mission Impossible movie, Israel struck back. They
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: exploded pages in the pockets of Hesbla terrorists, and then
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the very next day exploded walkie talkies in the hands
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of Hesbella terrorists. I'm not sure who is now more nervous,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the Hesba terrorists or the pigeons they'll be using to
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: communicate with each other from now on. Joining me to
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: discuss all of that and more is author and commentator
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Andrew Claven. Andrew, thanks so much for joining me. Operation
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: grim Beeper was about as surgical as strike as you
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: could make on terrorists. There are a few civilian casualties,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: which is always a tragedy, but dozens of terrorists were
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: killed and around three and a half thousand injured. So
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: help me understand Democrat Representative Alexandra Accazio Cortez, who hasn't
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: said boo about Israeli civilians being subjected to rocket attacks
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: for almost a year, but is suddenly outraged when Israel
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: goes after terrorists.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: She tweeted Israel's page.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Your attack in Lebanon detonated thousands of handheld devices across
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a slew of public spaces, seriously injuring and killing innocent civilians.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: This attack clearly and unequivocally violates international humanitarian law and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: undermines US efforts to prevent a wider conflict. Andrew, the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: only reason you wouldn't celebrate the carstration of Hezblah is
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that you hate Israel and more broadly the West.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:44
  Speaker 15: Well, exactly, AOC has precisely two problems. One is she's
• 25:48
  Speaker 15: a communist and the others she's an idiot. And those
• 25:51
  Speaker 15: two things do happen to go together quite often. And
• 25:54
  Speaker 15: what the left is done is they've invented this incredibly simplistic,
• 25:59
  Speaker 15: ridiculous theory that they propagate through the universities that they
• 26:02
  Speaker 15: now almost own completely in America. And the theory is
• 26:06
  Speaker 15: basically that all relationships have nothing, no content to them
• 26:10
  Speaker 15: except power. There's no such thing as love, there's no
• 26:12
  Speaker 15: such thing as morality or sacrifice. There's only power. It's
• 26:15
  Speaker 15: the only reality. And power is bad because it leads inequality,
• 26:19
  Speaker 15: and so whoever has the least power is always in
• 26:22
  Speaker 15: the right. And this is their theory that they sometimes
• 26:25
  Speaker 15: call intersectionality. But it's a perfect theory for someone who's
• 26:30
  Speaker 15: a communist and an idiot because it leads you to
• 26:33
  Speaker 15: hate the most productive and creative people. And it's also stupid.
• 26:38
  Speaker 15: It's a stupid theory. It's observably untrue. There are plenty
• 26:42
  Speaker 15: of weaker people who are savage, and not because they're weaker,
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: but simply because that's their culture or that's their nature.
• 26:48
  Speaker 15: And you just have to look at each situation from
• 26:50
  Speaker 15: a moral point of view. Israel is actually kind of
• 26:53
  Speaker 15: a terrific country. I know, there are gray areas and
• 26:56
  Speaker 15: the way they relate to the people around them, that's
• 26:58
  Speaker 15: true of every country. But this is a free country
• 27:00
  Speaker 15: where women have freedom, where Muslims have freedom, where Muslims
• 27:04
  Speaker 15: can rise to a very high level within the society.
• 27:06
  Speaker 15: Whereas if you build a church in some of the
• 27:09
  Speaker 15: surrounding countries, you'll get yourself killed. And you have to
• 27:13
  Speaker 15: remember all the time that there is no Hamas, there
• 27:17
  Speaker 15: is no Hesbala. They're simply Iran, Iran, which routinely chance
• 27:22
  Speaker 15: death to America, death to the Israel. And that's what
• 27:25
  Speaker 15: they're rooting for. And of course the West, because it
• 27:28
  Speaker 15: has power, because its ideas of triumphed over time, they're
• 27:32
  Speaker 15: going to be the enemies according to this ridiculous theory.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Well, Andrew, you've got your stupid politician. Sadly, we've got
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: our fair share as well. On Thursday, the United Nations
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: voted overwhelmingly that Israel must end what it called the
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: unlawful presence in Gaza and make reparations to Palestinian people.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: This despite the fact a muss just three weeks ago
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: shot six hostages in the back of the head at
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: point blank range and continue to hold one hundred and
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: one hostage. Is now your country was one of only
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: fourteen that voted against the motion. Our own Australian government,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to its shame abstained But do you remember when US
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln visited Jerusalem just days after
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the October seven attacks, and he made these remarks.
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: This is a moment for moral clarity. This is a
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: moment where everyone needs to make clear that there is
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: revulsion discussed and a determination, a determination not to allow
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: this to go forward.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Andrew, what happened to moral clarity? It lasted for about
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: five seconds.
• 28:52
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I guess we were lucky it lasted that long.
• 28:55
  Speaker 15: The thing is very strange. The Democrat Party is completely
• 28:59
  Speaker 15: en sleeved to its far left wing. They're not the majority,
• 29:02
  Speaker 15: They're certainly not the majority of voting Democrats. But no
• 29:06
  Speaker 15: Democrat politician, not one will break from this far left entity.
• 29:11
  Speaker 15: And the reason for that, I think is pretty simple.
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: It's the media. The left also owns most of the
• 29:16
  Speaker 15: news media in this country. The coverage, for instance, Donald
• 29:19
  Speaker 15: Trump has been ninety five percent negative. The coverage of
• 29:22
  Speaker 15: his opponent has been in the eighty percentile positive. They
• 29:26
  Speaker 15: are completely sold over to the left, and it creates,
• 29:29
  Speaker 15: especially in Washington, d C.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: It creates a.
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: Bubble that this is reality, that this is the way
• 29:34
  Speaker 15: people feel. In fact, most people in America support Israel.
• 29:38
  Speaker 15: Why shouldn't they. It's a democratic, free country. It basically
• 29:41
  Speaker 15: is a friend to the United States as opposed to
• 29:44
  Speaker 15: channing death to America, which can sort of annoy you
• 29:47
  Speaker 15: from time to time. But for some reason, the Democrats,
• 29:50
  Speaker 15: because of the media, I think they simply cannot pry
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: themselves away from this far left wing. They're the ones
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: who cause the violence. They are the ones who show
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: up in protests. And after October seventh, when you would
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: have fought, the country would have been entirely united on
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: the side of Israel the horrific enormities that were committed
• 30:06
  Speaker 15: on that day. Instead, what you had was these students
• 30:10
  Speaker 15: who had been schooled in this stupid theory that has
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: come out of academia, pouring out into the streets and
• 30:16
  Speaker 15: protesting on behalf of Hamas. You had movie stars saying
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: that the rapes, when women were raped to death, these
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: things were a myth, they were made up, That the
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: killing of children was made up. It was all sort
• 30:28
  Speaker 15: of a race. People were running around in the cities
• 30:30
  Speaker 15: of America tearing down the pictures of the hostages. So
• 30:35
  Speaker 15: no reality is allowed to shine through this academic theory
• 30:39
  Speaker 15: that has given them a sense of virtue, I guess,
• 30:41
  Speaker 15: and Anthony Blincoln and the entire Biden Harris administration are
• 30:46
  Speaker 15: just in thrall to this minority who believe these crazy things,
• 30:51
  Speaker 15: and just to point out for one moment how crazy
• 30:54
  Speaker 15: they are. These include feminists protesting on behalf of people
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: who would happily address them in burka's and beat them
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: for disobedience. This includes gay people who know the Islamists
• 31:05
  Speaker 15: would happily kill protesting on behalf of the people who'd
• 31:08
  Speaker 15: happily beat and kill them. And that's how much fantasy
• 31:11
  Speaker 15: and theory has overcome reality on the left in our country.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolute madness.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Speaking of which, let's talk about the southern border in
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the US. Former Border Patrol chief Aaron Hateke testified before
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Congress this week that he had been instructed by the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Biden Harris administration to keep quiet about how many people
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: with terrorism links were coming across the southern border into America.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Have a listen.
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: In San Diego, we had an exponentially increase in significant
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: interest aliens. These are aliens with significant tires to terrorism.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: Prior to this administration, the San Diego sector average ten
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: to fifteen siars per year. Once where it was out
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: the border was far easier to cross. San Diego went
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: to over one hundred SaaS in twenty twenty two, well
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: over that in twenty twenty three, even more than that
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: registered this year. These are only the ones we caught.
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: At the time, I was told I could not release
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: any information on this increase in SIAS or mentioned any
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: of the arrests. The administration was trying to convince the
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: public there was no threat at the border.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: It's just amazing stuff. When you've got an administration failing
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to secure the borders, despite the fact people with links
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: to terrorism are coming into the country, and moreover they're
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: threatening border patrol, that they must cover it up.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: How is that not treason?
• 32:32
  Speaker 15: Well, you should know, for one thing, that you just
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: covered the story probably about fifty percent more than our
• 32:37
  Speaker 15: major news outlets. We are in the midst of an
• 32:40
  Speaker 15: election that's taking place in a complete bubble of non information.
• 32:44
  Speaker 15: Whereas anything that Trump does or says that can be
• 32:47
  Speaker 15: taken out of context in the worst possible way. This
• 32:51
  Speaker 15: actual story that the Biden Harris administration not only let
• 32:54
  Speaker 15: terrorists flow through our open borders but then covered it up,
• 32:58
  Speaker 15: which in any other election, in any other time, in
• 33:01
  Speaker 15: any sane country, would be a major, major scandal. Far
• 33:05
  Speaker 15: more of a scandal than some you know, sex peccadillo
• 33:08
  Speaker 15: that one politician or another had. This is an actual
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: disastrous scandal, which shows the disdain that this administration has
• 33:18
  Speaker 15: for America and the American people. And all we're hearing
• 33:21
  Speaker 15: about is the fact that Trump said that some Haitian
• 33:23
  Speaker 15: migrants are eating cats in Springfield, Ohio, which is probably happening,
• 33:28
  Speaker 15: by the way, but that's but it makes them sound silly,
• 33:30
  Speaker 15: so they cover that as if it's a main a
• 33:33
  Speaker 15: major story. It's on the front page of the Wall
• 33:35
  Speaker 15: Street Journal this morning, and this story is being buried completely.
• 33:39
  Speaker 15: We're living in a very very dangerous moment, an information crisis,
• 33:43
  Speaker 15: I've called it for quite some time, when the desperation
• 33:47
  Speaker 15: to hold on to the the transmission of information has
• 33:52
  Speaker 15: caused the news media to collapse. We don't really have
• 33:55
  Speaker 15: a news media. All we have is Elon Musk's X
• 33:59
  Speaker 15: on which people can send information back and forth, sometimes reliable,
• 34:02
  Speaker 15: sometimes not.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: So.
• 34:03
  Speaker 15: What you're hearing is, as you say, it's an absolutely
• 34:07
  Speaker 15: terrible story not just of allowing these guys to get
• 34:10
  Speaker 15: into the country with everybody else, but also covering it up.
• 34:14
  Speaker 15: And yet I don't know how much of an impact
• 34:16
  Speaker 15: it's going to have on the voters who are hearing
• 34:18
  Speaker 15: about it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Speaking about covering things up, California Governor Gavin Newsom has
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: just signed a bill outlawing digitally altered political videos after
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Elon Musk posted this satirical video of Vice President Kamala Harris, a.
• 34:33
  Speaker 16: Democrat candidate for president, because Joe Biden finally exposed to
• 34:37
  Speaker 16: similitating to me, thanks John, I was selected because I
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: am the ultimate diversity hire. I'm both a woman and
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: a person of color. So if you've criticized anything I say,
• 34:46
  Speaker 16: you're both sexist and racist. I may not know the
• 34:49
  Speaker 16: first thing about running the country, but remember that's a
• 34:52
  Speaker 16: good thing if you're a deep state puppet.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: So Gavin Newsom has outlawed these kind of videos. Is
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: it because he doesn't have a sen it's if humor?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Or?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Is he worried people might reasonably believe that that's a
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: legitimate video of Kamala Harris.
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: There is that, I guess. I think after sixty years
• 35:10
  Speaker 15: of policy failures, the left is beginning to lose its
• 35:13
  Speaker 15: sense of humor. It's certainly beginning to lose its sense
• 35:16
  Speaker 15: that the First Amendment protects free speech rights. You know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: I could actually understand how some deep fakes should be labeled.
• 35:22
  Speaker 15: I think that that is probably important. I don't want,
• 35:25
  Speaker 15: you know, some movie star having his image selling some
• 35:28
  Speaker 15: product that he doesn't actually want to sell. I think
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: that's fair. These things have gotten so accurate. And you know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: that really did sound like Kamala Harris. And for all
• 35:37
  Speaker 15: I know, given the information, there might have been Kamala Harris.
• 35:40
  Speaker 15: But I mean that was silly enough and funny enough
• 35:43
  Speaker 15: that he just should have shrugged it off. He's going
• 35:45
  Speaker 15: to have a very hard time proving that this is
• 35:47
  Speaker 15: the kind of thing that needs to be silenced, so
• 35:50
  Speaker 15: he's making a gesture. It's amazing the disregard for free
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: speech as we hear about what a threat Donald Trump
• 35:58
  Speaker 15: is to democracy, until crazy people are now taking pot
• 36:00
  Speaker 15: shots out of left and right. They're the ones who
• 36:03
  Speaker 15: are trying to silence free speech. They've been doing it
• 36:06
  Speaker 15: for a long time now. They've actually tried to shut
• 36:09
  Speaker 15: down me on YouTube, people like me on all the
• 36:13
  Speaker 15: social media, and I think it's just an amazing desertion
• 36:16
  Speaker 15: of our core freedom, our first amendment to the right
• 36:19
  Speaker 15: to speak freely.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Andrew, just before I let you go.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You're a best selling author, with many of your novels
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: being turned into major Hollywood movies, including True Crime filmed
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: by Clint Eastwood and Don't Say a Word starring Michael Douglas.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of your books. Empire of Lies I.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Love that and The Great Good Thing How You, as
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a secular Jew came to faith in Jesus. A brilliant read.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But you've got a new book out. It's called A
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Woman Underground. Now you don't have to convince me to
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: go out and buy it. I love your books, but
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: tell me about it. Why should people rush out and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: buy it?
• 36:52
  Speaker 15: Well, this is a novel. It's not a political novel,
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  Speaker 15: but it's a novel that takes place in a politicized America.
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  Speaker 15: My detective camera and Winter is searching for an ex
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  Speaker 15: flame of his, and he knows that a killer is
• 37:03
  Speaker 15: searching for her at the same time. So it's kind
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  Speaker 15: of a race against time, and it's a race against
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  Speaker 15: time through streets that are being torn apart by political violence.
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  Speaker 15: Cameron Winter's an a political character. He doesn't side with
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  Speaker 15: any extremist anywhere, but this is where he has to
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  Speaker 15: find her, because this is where she's disappeared to. I
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  Speaker 15: think it's a really exciting book, and I've been thrilled
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  Speaker 15: at the fact that these books, one after another, have
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  Speaker 15: been bestsellers, and I hope this one is as well.
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  Speaker 2: Here it's called A Woman Underground. I love your writing,
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  Speaker 2: I love your commentary. I'd recommend it highly to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Claven, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 15: It's great to see you.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks well. Still to come. University of Sydney's vice.
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  Speaker 2: Chancellor admits he and the school failed Jewish students and staff.
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  Speaker 4: But what took him so long? I'll play you that next.
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  Speaker 2: Plus Kamala Harris refuses to sit down for serious interviews,
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  Speaker 2: but for Oprah Winfrey, she'll do anything. All of that
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  Speaker 2: and much more with my panel after this quick break,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. University of Sydney vice Chancellor
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  Speaker 2: Mark Scott has admitted he failed Jewish students and staff.
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  Speaker 2: He made the admission when addressing today's Senate inquiry into
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism at universities.
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  Speaker 3: Have said those testimonies are seering and if students have
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  Speaker 3: felt unsafe or unwelcome, if that has been their lived experience,
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  Speaker 3: if that is their testimony, then we have failed them. Yes, well, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's exactly right, Sea, and that's why I've happened.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, well, let's bring in our Friday panel.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is Small Business Women Australia CEO Amanda Rose
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  Speaker 2: and Skyne Is contributor Gary Hardgrave. Amanda, should Mark Scott
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  Speaker 2: have apologized earlier?
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  Speaker 17: I think he should have been aware of the impact
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  Speaker 17: of students earlier. And I think it's his responsibility that
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  Speaker 17: regardless of whether it's a protest or whether it's a
• 38:53
  Speaker 17: situation happening within the university, of the grounds of the
• 38:56
  Speaker 17: university and anything impacting like for example, immigrants and when
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  Speaker 17: they come over and the lack of support they actually
• 39:02
  Speaker 17: get at universities and their lived experience and they feel neglected.
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  Speaker 17: His responsibilities to make sure every single student, regardless of
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  Speaker 17: who they are, where they're from, or what they believe,
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  Speaker 17: feel safe at that university. So hopefully they kind of
• 39:16
  Speaker 17: take stock here and realize maybe our policies are wrong
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  Speaker 17: and we should be engaging more at grassroots instead of worrying.
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  Speaker 7: Just about the top level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's responsible to look after the welfare of all students. Somehow,
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  Speaker 2: the Jewish students were forgotten Gary. The apology, I guess
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  Speaker 2: is welcome, but Mark Scott permitted this under his leadership.
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  Speaker 2: It was absolutely appalling. The way Jewish students were treated.
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  Speaker 2: Is an apology and a commitment to do better.
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  Speaker 12: Enough, Look, James, the problem is he is part of
• 39:45
  Speaker 12: a generation of leaders who have no instincts about leadership.
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  Speaker 12: They need a policy, they need a committee, they need
• 39:52
  Speaker 12: to consult, they need to have an inquiry. There's no instinct,
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  Speaker 12: there's no kind of how do I treat people? You know,
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  Speaker 12: the old Christian lesson of the and real treat others
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  Speaker 12: as you ought to be treated yourself is an easy
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  Speaker 12: fix for a lot of these things. And where I
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: think Mark Scott has failed and he's got to look
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  Speaker 12: inside himself. The sort of leader he has now proven
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  Speaker 12: to be is a guy that needs to consult before
• 40:12
  Speaker 12: he can make a decision. Sorry, you know what, live
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  Speaker 12: by the decision you make. But make a decision and
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  Speaker 12: you think that the treatment they had at the time
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  Speaker 12: was wrong. You should have stood up, you should have
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: stood with them, you should have protected them. But it's
• 40:28
  Speaker 12: great to have twenty twenty hindsight after you've inquired into it,
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: looked at it, read the media responses, it's just not
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  Speaker 12: good enough. But it's typical of a generation of so
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  Speaker 12: called leaders we have in the world these days.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very well said.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's move from that to America, where Kamala
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  Speaker 2: Harris has been the Democratic candidate for fifty nine days
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  Speaker 2: and in that time she's given one national TV interview,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: one national print interview, and one local TV interview. But
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: today she finally emerged from hiding to answer the tough
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: questions you'd expect of a presidential candidate being interviewed by
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  Speaker 2: Oprah Winfrey.
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  Speaker 16: We are an optimistic people.
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  Speaker 14: Americans by character are people who have dreams and ambitions
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  Speaker 14: and aspirations. We believe in what is possible, We believe
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  Speaker 14: in what can be, and we believe in fighting for that.
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  Speaker 14: That's how we came into being Amanda.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that Kamala Harris is just wanting to blab
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  Speaker 2: her way into the White House.
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  Speaker 17: Look, the issue here is that that particular situation was
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  Speaker 17: surrounded by elite Hollywood stars, people that are connected. They
• 41:46
  Speaker 17: pretty much it's their own little group at the top.
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  Speaker 17: They have no idea about the working class and the
• 41:52
  Speaker 17: middle class, and there's no one from the working class
• 41:55
  Speaker 17: in the middle class standing up actually speaking about the
• 41:58
  Speaker 17: Democrats because they've all turned on them.
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  Speaker 4: So if they really want an interview and be.
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  Speaker 17: Genuine, then get a group of people that have lost
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  Speaker 17: their jobs, can't afford medical bills, and get them to
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  Speaker 17: ask questions, not Hollywood elites.
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  Speaker 4: What are the odds that she would ever do that, Amanda?
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  Speaker 4: Do you think zero?
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  Speaker 17: Which is why Trump always gets ahead the great he
• 42:17
  Speaker 17: will always.
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  Speaker 4: He goes there every day. Person absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Now, remember Kamala Harris helped to fund bail for people
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: charged with looting during the BLM riots, which made this
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: admission interesting again.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I hear that, I hear that. Publish, but
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: myself will be with that leader and Gary.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has repeatedly advocated for a gun buyback scheme,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: but now we discover she won't be giving up her
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: guns and if anyone tries to loot her place, she'll
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: shoot them.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: What on earth is going on with this woman?
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  Speaker 12: Well, what frightens me is that she might end up
• 43:02
  Speaker 12: with the launch codes. And it's a really frightening situation.
• 43:06
  Speaker 12: And I know the Hollywood elites and the media elites
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: and a whole lot of people think you know, this
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: is fantastic because she's not Donald Trump. And now Donald
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: Trump sat down with Greg Guttfeld on the Gutfeld Program
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  Speaker 12: this week, which is you know, late night TV, and
• 43:20
  Speaker 12: he just he was just I've never seen quite the
• 43:24
  Speaker 12: type of Donald Trump that I saw on that show.
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  Speaker 12: He was just so down to worth, took everything on board.
• 43:30
  Speaker 12: He said extraordinary things like he probably would have taken
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: the three wood to the blake with the gun on
• 43:34
  Speaker 12: that golf course the other day if he'd had a chance.
• 43:36
  Speaker 12: I mean, there was all sorts of flip and stuff.
• 43:38
  Speaker 12: But this woman has nothing flippant about her. She's pre programmed,
• 43:42
  Speaker 12: she scripted, She's been styled by Hollywood for Hollywood, and
• 43:47
  Speaker 12: I think the streisand effect is real. I think people
• 43:49
  Speaker 12: are sick to death of having Hollywood elites and indeed
• 43:52
  Speaker 12: media elites and millionaire and billionaire elites telling the working class.
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: To Amanda Roz's point, that this is what they've got
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: to do. So I think that Trump will scream it
• 44:02
  Speaker 12: in because he is actually real. He might not be
• 44:05
  Speaker 12: everybody's cup of tea, but he's real and right now
• 44:08
  Speaker 12: the world needs real in leadership.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny, you know, you're talking about billionaire elites and
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: we're sick of them. And as you're speaking, I'm thinking
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. But the irony, of course, is that
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is incredibly wealthy, and yet, as you pointed out,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: he speaks to the common man.
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  Speaker 12: He's a punter, he really is. He's a billionaire punter.
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: What he is, God bless him.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: That's all we need more of billionaire punters. I wouldn't
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: mind being a billionaire punter. The fallout from the most
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: woke Olympics ever it continues. A judo champion has been
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: suspended for five months after an incident that the Paris Games.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: What did he do? You asked? Was he a drug cheat?
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Was he caught match fixing? No?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: No, Worse, he was seen to make the sign of
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: the cross when entering the field of play. The twenty
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: year eight year old Christian from Serbia has been banned
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  Speaker 2: from competing until next year. So, Amanda, help me understand this.
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  Speaker 2: You can have athletes with male sex characteristics beating up
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: on women in the boxing, but you can't have a
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Christian bloke make the sign of a cross before a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: judo bout.
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  Speaker 7: Well, this is a sign of the times.
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  Speaker 17: And this is the world. But you know, the Christians
• 45:15
  Speaker 17: are being persecuted for two thousand years, and I don't
• 45:19
  Speaker 17: think they're that concerned because they know where their strength lies.
• 45:22
  Speaker 17: They know God's in total control here and it's a
• 45:26
  Speaker 17: piece that comes with that. So often this type of
• 45:28
  Speaker 17: activity is trying to provoke people. Usually Christians are like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 17: don't worry, We've read Revelation, we know how it ends.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I like it, well, said Gary, what do you think.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Obviously they're trying to ban all religious symbols because it's inclusion.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: So we end up with this sort of blob of nothingness.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: But I mean, is that offensive to you?
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: Absolutely not, And you know it's the war against Christianity,
• 45:55
  Speaker 12: as Amanda says, has been going on for thousands of years,
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: and the bloke himself crucified standing up for others.
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  Speaker 4: So I just simply say that this is where the whole.
• 46:06
  Speaker 12: International Olympic Committee has got to. They are just so
• 46:10
  Speaker 12: into wanting to control every bit of message out of
• 46:13
  Speaker 12: all aspects of it. They want Brisbane's Olympics to be
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: uber green. So we've got to have electric buses, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 12: we don't want to build too much concrete in the stadiums.
• 46:20
  Speaker 12: I mean, really, this is interfering. If this is what
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: motivates this bloke to be a great athlete and he
• 46:28
  Speaker 12: wants to give himself the encouragement he wants, then go
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  Speaker 12: for it. I don't think any non Christian should be
• 46:34
  Speaker 12: offended by it. But the International Olympic Committee want to
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: be offended on behalf of.
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  Speaker 4: All of us.
• 46:38
  Speaker 12: It seems it's plowerful.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I think we've got time to talk about
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: one more thing. This is an interesting story. Birth rates
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  Speaker 2: plummeting worldwide. The studying the Lancet projects seventy six percent
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: of countries will have fertility rates below population replacement levels
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  Speaker 2: by twenty fifty. But Russian President Vladimir Putin has launched
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: a bold initiative to tackle his country's falling birth rate.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: He is urging citizens to have sex at work during
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: their lunch and coffee breaks. Russia's health minister has told
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: journalists being very busy at work is not a valid reason,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: but a lame excuse not to have children. You can
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: engage in procreation during breaks because life flies by too quickly.
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  Speaker 4: Gary, what do you think? It puts a.
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: Whole new sort of spin on the terminology of being
• 47:25
  Speaker 12: on the job, James, I mean, in all seriousness, anyway,
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: hr is going to be on the phone to me
• 47:33
  Speaker 12: immediately after this. I've done a seminar for News Corporation
• 47:37
  Speaker 12: about this sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere near keep me out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Gary, I was thinking, I remember when Malcolm Turnbill
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: introduced the Bok band, which was quite famous.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: This is almost like the inversion of that. Yes, it
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: is that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: You know, Vladimir Putin's probably now a one man migration
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: drive for everyone who thinks this is a great way
• 47:56
  Speaker 12: to run their life to move to Russia.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Evan's a buff It's Friday, Amanda.
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  Speaker 2: When I saw that story, I had to double check
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: it because I wasn't quite sure it was real.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Could put And be onto something?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, falling birth rates is a problem right around
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  Speaker 2: the Western world.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Could this be the answer?
• 48:13
  Speaker 17: Look that sounds I'm guessing that sounds more enticing for
• 48:17
  Speaker 17: the men to do that in their lunch breaks and
• 48:19
  Speaker 17: coffee breaks, but not for the women. We need to rest.
• 48:21
  Speaker 17: We need to have a break. And I would be
• 48:24
  Speaker 17: bringing in disinfectant into the workplace. If I knew that
• 48:28
  Speaker 17: was going on, I'd have to be bleaching everything before
• 48:30
  Speaker 17: I went anywhere.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: It might fix the problem of trying to get workers
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: back to the office.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, everyone wants to come back into
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: the office.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Amanda Gary, thanks so much for joining
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  Speaker 2: me tonight.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Really appreciate your time.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: That's it for me, but stick around because coming up
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: in just a moment is Primetime with Caroline Marcus.
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  Speaker 4: That's up next.