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Tigs Take Game 1 Of American League Wild Card Series · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of Tyger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network. The Troit Tigers Podcast. I am
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Speaker 1: curiously with me as always a man who is big
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Speaker 1: brained about small ball. He is Cody.
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Speaker 2: Stavenhagen, Doing all right, Kieren? The Detroit Tigers have won
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Speaker 2: a playoff game. Not so long ago, we didn't know
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Speaker 2: if they were going to be in the playoffs. This
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Speaker 2: team has plenty of problems still, but this is a
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Speaker 2: reason I said not to count them out. They have
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Speaker 2: Trek Schooble, and Trek Schooble pretty much put them on
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Speaker 2: his back carried them today. Still a tight game, so
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Speaker 2: I had to work out of some crazy scenarios. Still
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Speaker 2: saw a lot of guards ball. But here you are.
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Speaker 2: You need one more in the next two days, and
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Speaker 2: you're going on to Seattle.
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Speaker 1: What if I told you the twenty five Detroit Tigers
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Speaker 1: won a playoff game in which the starting pitcher tossed
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Speaker 1: one hundred and seven pitches, there were no pinch hitters,
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Speaker 1: and they called for multiple bunts. What year is it?
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Speaker 2: And you rocked Austin Hedges twice?
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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, that would that would make sense that they
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Speaker 1: would lose the game that they would walk out and
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Speaker 1: edges twice. Well, like you won.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they won the game where they.
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Speaker 1: Did all that kins Tiger's team won a game with
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Speaker 1: a starting pitcher that tossed one hundred and seven pitches
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Speaker 1: and there were no pinch hitters, and the call for
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Speaker 1: multiple bunts like that is you know, that is an
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Speaker 1: example like in the playoffs, kind of like busting your
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Speaker 1: what's the word, like busting your preferences, like busting your tendency.
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Speaker 2: You're treating the game a little bit differently. You're not
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Speaker 2: managing for the one sixty two anymore.
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Speaker 1: A J.
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Speaker 2: Hinch even kind of mentioned like one reason you saw
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Speaker 2: me handle Errek the way I did through so much
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Speaker 2: of the season was four moments like that. Uh, because
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Speaker 2: today there there wasn't gonna be much of a restriction
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Speaker 2: on them one hundred and seven. It only crossed one
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Speaker 2: hundred pitches I think three times in the regular season,
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Speaker 2: as high was one of five the Tigers bunted five
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Speaker 2: times all year, and they bunted twice. They bunded twice today.
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Speaker 2: One of them worked, one of them won in the game.
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Speaker 1: I mean amazing, Like I was, you know, I was
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Speaker 1: amongst the Guardians, faithful sitting in the stands, and and
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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, like yeah, like this is
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Speaker 1: not something the Tigers do, like they're like like like
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Speaker 1: like bunting, Like it was like crazy. And then you know,
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Speaker 1: School was excellent. And we'll get to him in a second,
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Speaker 1: but it but it was just it was the quinness set.
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Speaker 1: Like during the regular season, we hear a lot about
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Speaker 1: when when the day, when today or whatever, and that
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Speaker 1: plays itself out in a like true fashion, but not
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Speaker 1: like what we saw today. For the re is that
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Speaker 1: you just described. But we've already gone too long without
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Speaker 1: like ant like terror. School was amazing today. He was
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Speaker 1: pounding the strike zone, he was efficient. He the only
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Speaker 1: thing that Guardians could do was either just put Austin
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Speaker 1: Hedges at the plate and then they you know, eight
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Speaker 1: pitches later you would have two walks or just Baltimore
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Speaker 1: chop yourself into into a situation. That's really old that
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Speaker 1: that school. WI allowed seven point two innings, three hits,
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Speaker 1: fourteen strikeouts and of course the one run again that
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Speaker 1: came off a I would say a fluki play, but
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Speaker 1: that's Guard's ball, so I'll give him credit for it.
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Speaker 1: It's a guard's ball play that was.
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Speaker 2: One of the position pretty well all year except for
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Speaker 2: when he's playing the Guardians. Granted, some really weird tough situations,
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Speaker 2: right disposition, all that.
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Speaker 1: Well, but it wasn't even like he feeled it wrong today.
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Speaker 1: It's just like it was like just enough to where
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Speaker 1: it was like a too much of a play. But
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Speaker 1: by the way, after they scored the run there in
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Speaker 1: the fourth ending, what happens, School's got to feel his
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Speaker 1: position and that's when he does the glove flip to
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Speaker 1: Tourgelsen to end the ending and squash the rally. That
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Speaker 1: was as big a moment as any of those strikeouts
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, because again that was kind of his
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Speaker 1: taboo the last time he pitched on that field. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: like just general like Trek Schoogle today, amazing. What did
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Speaker 1: you think watching it talking to him aj afterward, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that was an all time performance that we literally an
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Speaker 1: all time performance we just witnessed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a guy who lives for the big games. Man,
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Speaker 2: There's something about the way he is wired that is
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Speaker 2: just built for this moment, like the right level of
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Speaker 2: intensity but also the right level to stay calm in
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Speaker 2: the midst of chaos. He talked about, you know, doing
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Speaker 2: pre eating exercises out on the mound, something he started
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Speaker 2: doing earlier in his major league career. He's known, you know,
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Speaker 2: everyone knows he's approachable on start days and blah blah blah.
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Speaker 2: Dahan Dingler said like he was kind of all business today.
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Speaker 2: There was an air about Trek Schougel that was pretty special.
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Speaker 2: You know, I've been thinking about this, just athletes I've
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Speaker 2: I've been around and had the fortune to cover, and
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Speaker 2: a guy Trek Schoogl and Baker Mayfield are two I've covered.
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Speaker 2: And two guys who a little bit similar stories, the underdog,
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Speaker 2: the overlooked, and two dudes who are just competitive as hell,
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Speaker 2: and like you, you just never rule out. I mean
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Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily look, I have to analyze Baker Mayfield,
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Speaker 2: but I didn't know if he would be a successful
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Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. I mean, he was a Heisman Trophy winner,
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Speaker 2: but I was like, I don't know, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if he's built for it, but I just won't count
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Speaker 2: him out. And in a way, that's how you feel
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Speaker 2: about Schoobl, who's an even better pitcher than Mayfield is
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Speaker 2: a quarterback and it's something about the way they're wired. Man,
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Speaker 2: It's something you can't necessarily just look at them and scout.
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Speaker 2: I also thought Dylan Dingler called a fantastic game, mixed
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Speaker 2: in Scoobale slider a little more than he normally does,
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Speaker 2: called some creative curve balls, like just kind of kept
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Speaker 2: the Guardians hitters at Bay off balance. No one can
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Speaker 2: hit the fastball, no one can hit the change up.
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Speaker 2: But just to see him call that game a little
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Speaker 2: bit differently, especially with the team he's seen, you know,
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Speaker 2: twice in two weeks, I thought Dingler deserved a big
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Speaker 2: hat today too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'll get to a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: dinglerism from the fan base a little bit later as
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Speaker 1: I recount some of the funny, funny things I heard
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Speaker 1: from the stands. A good crowd today, very respectful crowd.
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Speaker 1: I want to say that, the Cleveland Faithful, So kudos,
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Speaker 1: kudos to them. We're gonna take a quick break and
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Speaker 1: then we're gonna get to a little bit of the offense,
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Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, you know, I'm verifying this
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Speaker 1: real quick. Gavin Williams had made three stars against the
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Speaker 1: Tigers this year. That is the most made against a
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Speaker 1: single opponent this year other than the Royal, So obviously
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Speaker 1: that makes sense. So there's a familiar of course, an
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Speaker 1: element of this series is there's a familiarity aspect to everything.
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Speaker 1: And to start the game, Cody, you have a one
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Speaker 1: pitch out, one pitch out, and then Carry Carpenter gets
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Speaker 1: a single let's you know, gets a second base on
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Speaker 1: an error, and then Torque you know, I think it
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Speaker 1: was just two pitches each a bad after that, you know,
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Speaker 1: gets the RBI there. It really did feel like early
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Speaker 1: on they were I don't know, maybe I'm wrong here,
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Speaker 1: but it felt like they were trying to attack Gavin
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Speaker 1: Gavin Williams as opposed to you know, like find your
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Speaker 1: pitch or whatever. You know, maybe maybe that was just
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Speaker 1: error errant thinking. And then you know, they kind of
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Speaker 1: worked out there, but it did feel like because he
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Speaker 1: was cruising. You know, they give up the run, but
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Speaker 1: he was cruising for much of this game, and then
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Speaker 1: they started to works them at bats. You know, you
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Speaker 1: still have a couple of examples of not doing well
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Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position, especially in Keith parts. Every
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Speaker 1: order like that is still a thing that happened today.
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Speaker 1: But you know, but to start out the game, because
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Speaker 1: you know, you're there, I was there. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of excitement and energy at Progressive Field. That's you know,
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Speaker 1: they're coming off this awesome run division championship, this team
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Speaker 1: that they dominated, you know for the better part of
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Speaker 1: a month. If you just go by standings and then
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Speaker 1: head to head and Carrie laces it hit and again
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Speaker 1: gets the second base because the Guardians didn't do a
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Speaker 1: guards ball thing. They made an error and there in
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Speaker 1: right field, and then Torque just kind of, you know,
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Speaker 1: just kind of gets right underneath that ball to to
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Speaker 1: to get it over the shortstop head and then Carrie
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Speaker 1: scores so school ball. As grazy as he was, he
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Speaker 1: gets to go out there with a one nothing lead
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Speaker 1: and that hell for a while. But man like it
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Speaker 1: was an example of a couple guys in a couple
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Speaker 1: situations that came up big, and that's what you're looking
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Speaker 1: for in these playoffs. Tork and Carpenter right there from
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Speaker 1: the jump.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think the bats against Gavin
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Speaker 2: Williams were interesting. First two headers, you know, two pitches,
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Speaker 2: two out, but I think it's because it was fastball
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Speaker 2: and sinker. I think early on they were trying to
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Speaker 2: lay off and not chase the curveball. Carpit one that
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Speaker 2: was over the middle. Williams is pretty much only thrown
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Speaker 2: torque sweepers, so I think he knew a sweeper was coming,
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Speaker 2: but I think it was kind.
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Speaker 3: Of trying to not chase as much.
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Speaker 2: And then after the first couple innings it evolved into
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Speaker 2: now still allowed to chase, also taking a lot of
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Speaker 2: cold strikes.
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Speaker 3: They weren't able to lay off the curveball.
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Speaker 2: So look did a good job getting on the board,
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Speaker 2: got enough base runners to scratch across the second run.
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Speaker 2: But I still think by the middle innings they're played
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Speaker 2: approach had completely just dissolved. Nineteen swings and misses, sixteen
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Speaker 2: Colt strikes, so they were caught in between. They were
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Speaker 2: still chasing, never at any point did it feel like
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Speaker 2: someone was really gonna connect for like an extra base
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Speaker 2: hit in the late innings. I didn't feel that way
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Speaker 2: at least, so I'm still concerned about that.
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Speaker 3: Kieran.
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Speaker 2: The Tigers, they were a really good offense for the
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Speaker 2: first half. I always thought they're probably more of an
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Speaker 2: average offense, But lately they've been a bad offense twenty
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Speaker 2: fourth and one base percentage in the second half, you know,
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Speaker 2: striking out of the third or fourth highest clip in
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Speaker 2: the league. They've become a bottom third offense. And you
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Speaker 2: have to get some of these guys to wake up
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Speaker 2: and do a little bit more because you don't have
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Speaker 2: Trek Scoobell on the mound every single day. You're facing
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Speaker 2: another guy tomorrow and Tanner Bibee who's taking your lunch
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Speaker 2: money recently, much like Davin Williams has.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to get some big hits.
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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to be able to slug a little bit,
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Speaker 2: and more than anything, you're just gonna have to up
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Speaker 2: and down the order have a better quality of it bad.
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Speaker 3: There have been just too many empty calories at the
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Speaker 3: plate lately.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the glabor Tora, I mean double plays
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Speaker 1: with the runners and scoring position and then not being
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Speaker 1: able to uh.
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Speaker 3: And that's gonna happen. But that pitch was middle man.
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Speaker 2: That was a pitch that should have been crushed and
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Speaker 2: Glaber rolled over it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean again, like there's definitely you know,
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Speaker 1: a win's a win, especially in a three game series.
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Speaker 1: But was there meat left on the bone? Absolutely? Let's
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Speaker 1: let's get to the decision to bunt there? Uh was
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Speaker 1: zmac and to get a to get what turned out
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Speaker 1: to be the game winning run off off Hunter Gaddis,
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Speaker 1: that was the first pitch that was very intentional, and
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Speaker 1: you know, it was a good bunt, but I didn't
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Speaker 1: think it was like watching it live, I'm down the
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Speaker 1: left field line, so my vision is a little bit skewed.
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Speaker 1: I thought, like an aggressive first baseman, like a gold
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Speaker 1: Glove caliber first baseman, might be able to get to
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Speaker 1: that ball and maybe have a play the play if
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Speaker 1: you really wanted to. You have no well there, so
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Speaker 1: that's not really a thing like but the but the
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Speaker 1: fact that they that that was the call for you know, McKinstry,
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Speaker 1: a guy who's got like what I don't have in
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Speaker 1: front of me, But like what a seven sixty like
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Speaker 1: ops or whatever, like like that was that was the
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Speaker 1: play and they went for it there, Like what did
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Speaker 1: you think of that instance? That use of that call,
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Speaker 1: which AJ said after the game, is like we always
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Speaker 1: have that in our playbook, but we don't always use it.
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Speaker 1: What do you think of that call?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's buried toward the bottom of the playbook with
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Speaker 2: like the hook and ladder and that and the statue
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Speaker 2: of liberty, liberty. They they don't do it, but they
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Speaker 2: did it there. I liked the call though, and I don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't like bunting a safety squeeze. I think it's
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Speaker 2: a little better than just moving the runners over. You
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Speaker 2: were trying to score a run, and in that circumstance,
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Speaker 2: like I said, it just never felt like the Tigers
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Speaker 2: were going to get hit a ball hard somewhere.
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Speaker 3: So I liked it. It was aggressive, it was a
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Speaker 3: little bit of ambush.
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Speaker 2: It was using the Guardian's own formula against them.
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Speaker 3: And that setting.
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Speaker 2: I'm all for shaking it up man with this magnitude
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Speaker 2: with a pitcher on the mound who was cruising with
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Speaker 2: a really good back into the bullpen.
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Speaker 3: I think it was a smart call.
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Speaker 2: I think you just had to do something different, right,
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Speaker 2: and that's exactly what they did. Stephen Vote said, hey,
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Speaker 2: I knew it was coming though. You know, basically, given
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Speaker 2: the magnitude of the situation, runner on third, you've got
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Speaker 2: to get him in.
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Speaker 3: The Guards were prepared for it.
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Speaker 2: I'd have to watch the video again to see if
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Speaker 2: a first baseman could have actually made a play on that.
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Speaker 2: But Stephen Vote stacked his lineup with hitting right facing Schooble.
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Speaker 2: He went right handed bats to of the guys who
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Speaker 2: don't normally play. Noel and Hernandez and center field both
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Speaker 2: made errors very costly to the Guardians today was their defense.
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Speaker 2: You know, a team that prides itself on its defense
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Speaker 2: got a little desperate for hitting against Schooble and that
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Speaker 2: kind of cost him the game. So of interesting managerial
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Speaker 2: stuff at play. We have even talked about the Tiger's
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Speaker 2: playoff roster. They are indeed sticking with two lefties. I
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Speaker 2: thought Bailey Horn was eligible.
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Speaker 3: He's not. He's still in the option cycle.
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Speaker 2: So more pretty bad roster management to not have Bailey
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Speaker 2: Horn available. But I think a J. Hinches thinking is
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Speaker 2: very much well, like you have Schooble. Game one, you're
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Speaker 2: going to get a long start. Games two, Games three,
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Speaker 2: it must win, so you're gonna pitch Holton and Herder
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Speaker 2: for both. In an ideal world, you're not using a
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Speaker 2: third lefty anyway. It's still maybe it would be nice
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Speaker 2: to have one on paper, but for the sake of practicality,
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Speaker 2: you guys probably not getting in the game. So and
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Speaker 2: you don't have Bailey Horn available. All you got is
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Speaker 2: Drew Summers. They didn't want Drew Summers, so they'll probably
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Speaker 2: be able to get by helps that things went your
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Speaker 2: way in game one.
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Speaker 3: I will be curious.
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Speaker 2: Let's really keep an eye on Tiger's bullpen lefties in
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Speaker 2: games two and three, because I think it's going to
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Speaker 2: come into play.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, for record keeping purposes, Zach McKinstry's seven to
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Speaker 1: seventy one ops this season, he lays down a.
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Speaker 3: St August first though it's I just I'm just.
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Speaker 1: Laying the number out there, just just saying. But but
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Speaker 1: also I would imagine that the trust factor that AJ
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Speaker 1: has for a guy like McKinstry in order to execute
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Speaker 1: that that's probably pretty high.
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Speaker 2: I don't like, let's say, when you don't bunt all
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Speaker 2: season to execute it in that moment.
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Speaker 3: Man, that's that's pretty big.
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Speaker 2: Bunting's harder than it looks when you're facing guys with
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Speaker 2: power stuff and you got to change up which actually
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Speaker 2: your first.
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Speaker 1: Like you don't know what you know, like no feel
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Speaker 1: for that at bad first pitch. That's the first run
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Speaker 1: they got it to given up against the Tigers this year.
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Speaker 1: So like that, that's what it takes in the postseason.
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Speaker 1: These like margins are so small, you know what. Let's uh,
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Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll talk about will
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Speaker 1: Vest having big brain baseball IQ there in the ninth
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Speaker 1: inning and guards ball being denied at least for a day.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, speaking of details, I mean really all
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Speaker 1: we talk been talking about today is details that led to,
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Speaker 1: you know, a tiger's victory, and one of the details
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Speaker 1: in that ninth ending, you know, really worked against them,
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Speaker 1: and then you know they got the benefit of the
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Speaker 1: tough play for Hobby Bye. As jose Ara Mirrs, he
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Speaker 1: knows he's fast, and he's excuse me, batting from the
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Speaker 1: left side, so there's like a little bit more of
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Speaker 1: a I imagine a little bit more of an internal
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Speaker 1: clock sped up, and he makes a throw and it's
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Speaker 1: you know, bounces the torque. It's one that he is
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Speaker 1: capable of scooping. He did not. And then what happens, dude,
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Speaker 1: The ball doesn't just go to the wall and you know,
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Speaker 1: get it's in place. It hits off rameras like the
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Speaker 1: worst possible outcome there. He gets all the way to
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Speaker 1: third and the crowd is nuts. Dude. It like zero outs.
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Speaker 1: It's Jose on third, like like will vest you talked about,
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Speaker 1: like him only excelling in like adrenaline situations. That was
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Speaker 1: an adrenaline situation right there, gets the strikeout, which is
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Speaker 1: which was very cute, and then and and then gets
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Speaker 1: the comebacker in honestly like out baseballs, Jose Ramirez, Jose
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Speaker 1: ra Maraz overly aggressive down the third base line and
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Speaker 1: then you know kind of just guess that Ves was
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Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball when he did, and and kind
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Speaker 1: of was gonna, you know, try to keep the pickle
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Speaker 1: going best did not throw the ball, was able to
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Speaker 1: tag him. In addition, it was quick enough that he
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Speaker 1: didn't get another runner in scoring position. Like all around
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Speaker 1: baseball IQ execution, even though not anybody was coming second,
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Speaker 1: but like overall execution there just like top notch against
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Speaker 1: the guy who had been who had just tortured you,
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Speaker 1: has been torturing you, and that's a situation you were
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Speaker 1: able to get him. I mean, like big brain play
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Speaker 1: by Will Vest Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't think wils can be the MVP in the game.
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Speaker 2: Schooble struck out fourteen, but certainly he can be the
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Speaker 2: second MVP of the game. I mean, greatest Schooble was
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Speaker 2: He left the game with you know, a runner on base,
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Speaker 2: and Wilves had to clean that up in a huge spot. Wolves,
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Speaker 2: who hasn't had a good finish to the season. Wolves
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Speaker 2: used a lot of different stuff though sliders, change ups.
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Speaker 2: He shook a Dylan Dingler in the eighth inning, the
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Speaker 2: oh one pitch to Naylor. I think Dingler had called
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Speaker 2: another slider and Ves wanted to go change up again.
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Speaker 2: He got him to rollover right to Spencer Totals and
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Speaker 2: it worked out. And then in the ninth yeah, runner
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Speaker 2: on third, nobody out makes a play. Will vess Old
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Speaker 2: shortstop instincts kicked in. He was a college shortstop who
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Speaker 2: hit like one ninety and he played that really well
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Speaker 2: against a smart player in Jose Ramirez. I think the
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Speaker 2: Guardians had the contact play one. So Ramirez was going,
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Speaker 2: Stephen vote, you know something we've heard aj Hinch say before,
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Speaker 2: be like, if that ball is two feet away in
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Speaker 2: either direction, he's scoring, and he's not wrong. So the
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Speaker 2: Tigers finally got a good break at Progressive Field.
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Speaker 3: That ball was right at Vest.
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Speaker 2: He didn't panic, he made the smart play, got the out,
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Speaker 2: and then you felt a whole lot better because for
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Speaker 2: a minute there, it was like, oh my god, they
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Speaker 2: are actually going to blow a schoobl start, Like this
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Speaker 2: would be the fourth straight loss in the school start.
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Speaker 2: He had his a game today and they might not win,
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Speaker 2: which is why I'm still really worried about these bats.
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Speaker 2: They got to wake up. But things in large parts
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Speaker 2: to wild Vest. You walk away with a big win,
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Speaker 2: and I think you got to feel all right about
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Speaker 2: your chances of getting one of the next two.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hope we don't come across as like
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Speaker 1: not giving Schooble enough flowers. He was outstanding today. I
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Speaker 1: just feel like like he was. It was such a
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Speaker 1: great performance, Like we could do a whole podcast about him.
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Speaker 1: But there were so many other interesting things that that
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Speaker 1: that I want to talk about that you know, like
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Speaker 1: kind of where it was all of this game. But
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Speaker 1: just like he was hitting the Hunt, he was hitting
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Speaker 1: triple digits early, early, and then he finished with triple digits.
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Speaker 1: He was pumped up. I mean like like there's not enough.
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Speaker 3: Words the board. The VLO was up on all his pitches.
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Speaker 1: He was like he was, he was amazing. And there's
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Speaker 1: an alarm going off outside my Cleveland hotel room, and
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Speaker 1: I think it's because, yeah, like school bul emergency school
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Speaker 1: bl was awesome tonight. Uh But so yeah, I want
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Speaker 1: to like lectures, like we recognize how great he was,
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Speaker 1: but there's so many other things to get to and
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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So I hope, I hope we
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Speaker 1: did a good job of giving him his flowers. But
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Speaker 1: looking forward, Cody, we debated what like we debate on
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Speaker 1: this podcast, what to do in a game too situation,
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Speaker 1: And we had debated over Dike Cokes at Knights in
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Speaker 1: downtown Cleveland, what to do in a game two situation.
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Speaker 1: And the Tigers announced before the game that Casey Mies
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Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, get the start in Game two.
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Speaker 1: And I remind everybody I talked about it last time
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Speaker 1: Casey Miz in seventeen plus innings against the Guardians this
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Speaker 1: year with a two point eight e R, eighteen ks
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Speaker 1: and four walks. As you mentioned earlier, the Tigers will
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Speaker 1: be going against Tanner Bibe, who in nineteen innings oh
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Speaker 1: zero point ninety five e RA against the Tigers. He's
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Speaker 1: a four plus ERA pitcher overall, but against the Tigers
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Speaker 1: he's less than a run, twenty one k's and five walks. Uh.
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Speaker 1: So that's your game too. So you heard aj you,
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Speaker 1: I assume you heard from myes about, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: this situation I had talked earlier about sort of like
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Speaker 1: this is what the money's for guys. Torg was in there.
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Speaker 1: He has the RBI in the first inning because he
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Speaker 1: was the first overall pick. Casey mies first overall pick
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Speaker 1: beginning of the rebuild. Now you have even playing the
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Speaker 1: postseason last year. Now he has the opportunity to clinch
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Speaker 1: a series. Uh you know, at you know, with with
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Speaker 1: everything on the line. So what do you what do
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Speaker 1: you think of the decision to go with Casey.
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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting that they basically flip flapped him
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Speaker 2: and Flaherty in the rotation.
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Speaker 3: Talking to A. J.
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Speaker 2: Hinchbout, it seemed like they just felt a little better
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Speaker 2: about Miz and how good he's been recently, Not that
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Speaker 2: they don't feel good about Jack, but Casey's been really
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Speaker 2: good his last few outings and wanted to go ahead
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Speaker 2: and bump him up to Game two. I think that's
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Speaker 2: an interesting decision given case He's going to be starting
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Speaker 2: on red rest, four days rest. He has a four
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Speaker 2: nine for ERA on four days rest this year, he's
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Speaker 2: more than a full run better on five days rest,
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Speaker 2: a three seven nine ERA, So, especially after winning Game one,
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Speaker 2: I think there's a real argument to give Casey day
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Speaker 2: extra day rest. And now Flaherty's going to have gone
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Speaker 2: a decent amount of time without pitching, So just from
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Speaker 2: the rest and the schedule standpoint, and interesting decision, But
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Speaker 2: you can feel good about the way case He's been
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Speaker 2: throwing the baseball lately, how good he was in Boston,
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Speaker 2: and how much this means to him too. Like he
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Speaker 2: talked about not being on the playoff roster, he talked
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Speaker 2: a lot about that conversation and looking at the spot
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Speaker 2: in the bullpen when he when he learned he wasn't
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Speaker 2: going to be on the playoff roster last year in Cleveland.
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Speaker 2: So he's going to be pitching with some emotion. We
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Speaker 2: saw probably more emotion out of him on the mound
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Speaker 2: Infinway Park than we've ever seen before. ID of hope
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Speaker 2: he takes that into this outing. I do think, you know,
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Speaker 2: Ajes is going to manage that game aggressively. If he
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Speaker 2: gives up a couple of runs and it's the fourth
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Speaker 2: and there's guy on, I would be shocked to see
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Speaker 2: aj go to that bullpen. But if he's on, he'll
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Speaker 2: he'll also let him roll. So you know, and Flaherty
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Speaker 2: are both going to be traditional starters, but I think
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Speaker 2: they will have relatively short leashes given what's at stick.
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Speaker 1: All right, to to wrap up here, I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to share a couple anecdotes. Number One perspective from our
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Speaker 1: friends at DraftKings. Coming into this series. I was looking
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Speaker 1: at the odds. So this is before Game one, the
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Speaker 1: Tigers were a minus twenty favorite to win this series
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, even odds you know, you know, to to
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Speaker 1: win the series, which means that Vegas thinks the Tigers
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Speaker 1: have the advantage, So take that forever it's worth. That
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Speaker 1: surprised me, given you know, division winner, how the Tiger's
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Speaker 1: been playing, you know all that stuff. So just take
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Speaker 1: that for what it's worth is and I assume those
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Speaker 1: odds are a lot different now. And then I wanted
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Speaker 1: to share some things that I heard from the stands,
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Speaker 1: from from from the Cleveland faithful. After that Jonathan Rodriguez
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Speaker 1: error in the first in the first inning, got a
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Speaker 1: lot of minor leaguer uh uh hecklings from the stands
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Speaker 1: about that. The schooble chance started early, and you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously continued throughout the game, but I think they started
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Speaker 1: from guys right behind me. I think they were the
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Speaker 1: first ones to do it. Again, I was right down
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Speaker 1: the left field line. Some guys started doing ter Rick Daniel,
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Speaker 1: so you know, a little bit of research figure out
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Speaker 1: what his what his middle name is, so I get
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Speaker 1: I got to give him a little credit for that.
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Speaker 1: Some guy yelled at Riley Green that he was quote
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Speaker 1: the worst fifth overall pick of all time, which accurate,
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Speaker 1: which is like a level of detail that I found humorous.
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Speaker 1: So credit to that guy. He also called Riley Green
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Speaker 1: the Easter Buddy for reasons that I did not understand
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Speaker 1: or I could not hear the context of why, but
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Speaker 1: I again found it entertaining. Uh, you'll love this. Cody
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Speaker 1: you will love this. There was there was like there's
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Speaker 1: this guy who was doing a light yelling. He had
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Speaker 1: his kids with him, and his kids were like, we
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Speaker 1: want to do the wave and the guy was like, no,
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Speaker 1: it's the playoffs. We have to walk in.
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Speaker 3: Oh. I like that he's raising his kids right.
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Speaker 1: And then and then I was sitting next to an
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Speaker 1: older woman who was obviously a season ticket holders, you know,
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Speaker 1: knew the knew the events, stab and like all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: She had a glove with her and leading the chance
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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And she came up to me.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm sorry if we're like too much for you,
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Speaker 1: but you know we were, you know, happy that you're
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Speaker 1: here and blah blah blah blah. And I was like, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I love the passion. She's like, well, I hope you
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Speaker 1: have a good day, but I hope you lose. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, kudos, like a great attitude,
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Speaker 1: you know. And she came up to me after the
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Speaker 1: game she was like, Hey, if you're at the game tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: come see me, come talk to me. Like an amazing person.
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Speaker 1: So I wanted to give her, give her credit. And
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Speaker 1: then also there was one time laying the game where
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Guardians batter like took a time out and
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Speaker 1: I think it was it might have been the ninth
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Speaker 1: Any actually took a time out and the Coal crowd booed,
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Speaker 1: not knowing thinking that Vest was the one who called
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Speaker 1: time and stept off or whatever. But it was a
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Speaker 1: Cleveland hitter. So that was entertaining. Even the guy that
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Speaker 1: said we got to lock in no way, he was like,
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Speaker 1: why are we booing? We were the ones who called
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Speaker 1: time out. So very entertaining from from the Cleveland crowd.
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Speaker 1: And we'll see what happens on when to say, Cody,
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens on Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: We'll be back soon. Well, I'm sure we'll have another
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Speaker 2: weird wild game in Cleveland to talk about, no doubt.
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