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Finding the Winning Message · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: We have seven weeks, seven weeks-ish before the midterm elections,
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Speaker 1: and that's if you're not voting early or voting by
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Speaker 1: mail or all the million other ways that there is
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Speaker 1: to vote. And that's when we decide who controls the
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Speaker 1: Congress of the United States. It's a big deal. And
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Speaker 1: there's way more at stake than just that. I know
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Speaker 1: you hear it all the time, the most consequential election
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Speaker 1: in history. This truly may be the most consequential midterm
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Speaker 1: election in American history. And every poll, from every pollster,
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Speaker 1: left and right, agrees on one thing. This election is
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Speaker 1: going to be won or lost on one singular issue.
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Speaker 1: You know what that is, right? the economy, specifically the
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Speaker 1: cost of your life, prices, affordability, what you actually pay
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Speaker 1: to get through a week. It's the number one issue
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Speaker 1: in this country, and it's not even close. 2024, that
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Speaker 1: worked to Trump's advantage, and probably not just 2024. That
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Speaker 1: issue helped carry him to victory twice. But right now, tonight,
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Speaker 1: that ground is contested. And whether The argument is based
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Speaker 1: on data or not. The country feels like this is
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Speaker 1: the most important issue. Therefore, it is. And it all
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Speaker 1: started with Iran, that pesky military conflict in the Middle
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Speaker 1: East that drove gas prices up. And on top of that, groceries,
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Speaker 1: they're still biting a little at checkout. Homes have never
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Speaker 1: been more unaffordable. And interest rates just went up, up.
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Speaker 1: Not good. And the Democrats, well, they've seized on every
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Speaker 1: bit of it. They found their entire midterm message. And
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Speaker 1: it's one word, affordability. Perfect for a socialist, right? And
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Speaker 1: just as they've done all year, they're hammering it every
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Speaker 1: single day. Now, the numbers on the economy aren't as
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Speaker 1: bad as it feels. Wages are rising faster than inflation,
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Speaker 1: meaning real people are, for the first time in years,
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Speaker 1: getting ahead instead of falling behind. The inflation that Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden drove to a 40-year high has been beaten back.
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Speaker 1: Last month's job report came in nearly triple what the
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Speaker 1: experts predicted. And as soon as this war is over,
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Speaker 1: gas prices will plummet lower than they've ever been.
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Speaker 2: INFLUENCERS.
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Speaker 1: THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MORE OIL. AND TODAY,
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Speaker 1: A HUGE DEAL WITH VENEZUELA AGAIN ANNOUNCED WE ARE IMPORTING
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Speaker 1: MORE OIL THAN EVER BEFORE FROM VENEZUELA. GAS PRICES WILL
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Speaker 1: COME DOWN. BUT ALMOST NONE OF IT MATTERS. BECAUSE THAT'S
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Speaker 1: NOT THE MESSAGE REACHING THE AVERAGE VOTER. AND IT WON'T
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Speaker 1: BECAUSE A HOSTILE PRESS AND A HANDFUL OF INFLUENCERS TAKES
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Speaker 1: EVERY ONE OF THOSE GOOD NUMBERS AND BURIES IT UNDER
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Speaker 1: A MOUNTAIN OF IS IT TAKING CONTROL OVER THE IS
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Speaker 1: IT TAKING CONTROL OVER THE NARRATIVE AND OWNING IT LIKE
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Speaker 1: VICE PRESIDENT VANCE DID YESTERDAY?
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Speaker 3: MAYBE.
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Speaker 1: MY NEXT GUEST IS A POLLSTER WHO HAS HELPED PRESIDENT
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Speaker 1: TRUMP ALONG WITH MANY OTHER WORLD This firm, McLaughlin & Associates,
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Speaker 1: is known as the most accurate in the business. I'm
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Speaker 1: honored to welcome Polster extraordinaire Jim McLaughlin. Welcome back to
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Speaker 1: Dave Pollack Prime Time. Do you like the title I've
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Speaker 1: given you, Polster extraordinaire?
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Speaker 4: Thank you. And the check's in the mail, David. I
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Speaker 4: appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: I'll look for it. Hopefully it's not with the ballot,
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Speaker 1: because that might end up in somebody else's house. But
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the economy, because I mean, I'm sure you,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to assume, but I'm assuming
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Speaker 1: that has to be the number one issue you guys
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Speaker 1: are tackling over there.
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Speaker 4: No doubt about it. And it usually is the number
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Speaker 4: one issue. Doesn't matter whether it's a midterm election or
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Speaker 4: whether it's a presidential election. Most often, People vote their wallets.
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Speaker 4: People vote their pocketbooks. And look, we've been seeing this
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Speaker 4: basically since the summer of 22, where voters have been
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Speaker 4: telling us because of Joe Biden's horrific inflation, where we
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Speaker 4: saw record inflation, it's been the number one issue. And
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Speaker 4: there's no question about it. It's what is on voters' minds.
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Speaker 4: And I think you made the point during your monologue that,
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Speaker 4: you know, I really believe because of how socialism is
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Speaker 4: on the march now, that this truly is the number one,
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Speaker 4: this is the most important election in my lifetime. I've
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Speaker 4: been doing this stuff for over 40 years. So, I mean,
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Speaker 4: just think about it. If you have the El Sayeds
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Speaker 4: of the world, if they win in a battleground state
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Speaker 4: like Michigan, The Democrats are going to be telling us
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Speaker 4: they need to nominate somebody like AOC for president. And
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Speaker 4: it's really a frightening scenario.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is probably the perfect timing for them
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Speaker 1: to take this message, just as you're saying, because if
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Speaker 1: you're sitting around and you're feeling like, well, look, I
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Speaker 1: voted for Democrats, then I went and voted for Trump,
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Speaker 1: my life hasn't gotten any better. Why not? Remember, that
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Speaker 1: was the whole campaign of 2016. Like, what do you
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Speaker 1: have to lose at this point? Vote for an outsider.
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Speaker 1: It can't get worse, right? And this is what the
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Speaker 1: Democrats are seizing on. They're like, hey, why not try socialism?
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Speaker 1: What else do you have going for you? Is that
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Speaker 1: message resonating?
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Speaker 4: And look, they've got their allies in the media helping
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Speaker 4: them with that message. I mean, just think what happened
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Speaker 4: over the last couple of days. We didn't get some
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Speaker 4: good economic news. We got some great economic news. GDP
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Speaker 4: during the last quarter, the economy grew by over 5%.
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Speaker 4: In spite of the Iran conflict, it grew over 5%. Oh,
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Speaker 4: by the way, Median household incomes, they're at record highs
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Speaker 4: right now, nearly $ 90, 000 for your typical family of four.
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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, the poverty rate is the
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Speaker 4: lowest level, according to the census, according to the census,
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Speaker 4: government agency says the poverty rate is the lowest rate
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Speaker 4: ever recorded. And you know who did the best? Whose
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Speaker 4: incomes rose the most? Blacks and Hispanics. Yet you don't
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Speaker 4: hear any of this from the mainstream media. And obviously,
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Speaker 4: all you hear from the Democrats is they're trying to
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Speaker 4: talk down the economy. But when you do the contrast,
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Speaker 4: when you do the choice of where Republicans are on
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Speaker 4: the issue of the economy and of the issue of inflation,
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Speaker 4: they overwhelmingly support what the Republicans want to do, where
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Speaker 4: they want lower taxes. They want to cut the waste,
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Speaker 4: fraud and abuse. They want to get rid of the regulations,
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Speaker 4: make us energy independence. They overwhelmingly support that versus the
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Speaker 4: Democrats who want to give us the largest tax increase
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Speaker 4: in American history. And they want to increase all this
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Speaker 4: crazy deficit and debt spending.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I completely agree with you. I've been talking
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Speaker 1: about that on the show and on social media. I
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Speaker 1: keep hitting the facts, the facts, the facts, because, you know,
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Speaker 1: in a sea of people posting gas pumps and, oh,
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Speaker 1: this isn't what I voted for, I keep going, here
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Speaker 1: are the facts, here are the facts, here are the facts. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, you've heard that cliche, the facts don't care
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Speaker 1: about your feelings. Well, it's just the opposite, really. The
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Speaker 1: feelings don't care about the facts with respect to this economy.
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Speaker 1: And that's what you're seeing in your polling, right? That
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Speaker 1: even though those numbers are out there, we have a
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Speaker 1: dishonest news media. We have social media influencers that are
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Speaker 1: dishonestly presenting information. So how do we bridge that gap?
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Speaker 1: How do we fight the fake news? How do we
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Speaker 1: fight the fake influencers with these facts that seemingly are
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Speaker 1: isolated from people's feelings?
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Speaker 4: And you're exactly right, too, by the way. You mentioned it.
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Speaker 4: Next week, In three states, they're going to start voting.
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Speaker 4: You know, ballots are going to start going out. So,
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Speaker 4: you know, we don't even have the seven weeks left
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Speaker 4: that some people tell us because early voting is getting started,
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Speaker 4: especially in a lot of these blue states. But there's
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Speaker 4: some very interesting scenarios that's going on out there. Like,
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Speaker 4: I'm working on races from, you know, Maine to California.
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Speaker 4: And we're seeing in places like both California and New
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Speaker 4: York where the Republicans are doing exceedingly well, like where
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Speaker 4: the Republicans have a really good candidate, Bruce Blakeman, running
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Speaker 4: against Kathy Hochul's failures and extremism. Republicans are doing really well.
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Speaker 4: We have members of Congress there, like Mike Lawler in
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Speaker 4: New York 17, who has his own brand And he
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Speaker 4: talks about the economy and pocketbook economic issues all the time.
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Speaker 4: He's doing really well in a district where Democrats outnumber
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Speaker 4: Republicans by about 15, 16 points. So we're seeing these
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Speaker 4: successful campaigns. And look, it's so important to talk to
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Speaker 4: the voters about that contrast, about all the crazy, insane
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Speaker 4: things that these Democrats support. I mean, just think about it.
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Speaker 4: And no question, We have an affordability problem in this country. And,
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Speaker 4: you know, you talked about before how we were President
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Speaker 4: Trump's pollster back in 2016. We did his polling in 2020. Oh,
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Speaker 4: by the way, when we were running his campaign after
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Speaker 4: he'd been president for four years, we weren't even asking
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Speaker 4: about affordability and inflation in the surveys. Why? Because it
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Speaker 4: wasn't an issue to voters. When he left office, even
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Speaker 4: in spite of COVID, the inflation rate was only at 1.4%.
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Speaker 4: But what happens is all these crazy economic policies, the spending,
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Speaker 4: the anti-energy policies, all their regulations, they made inflation the
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Speaker 4: issue again. And they're really good, by the way, at
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Speaker 4: blaming the Republicans for the problems that they caused.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love what you said that's in the messaging.
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Speaker 1: You highlight those races, and I think that is the
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Speaker 1: winning message. The winning message is, hey, guys, yes, affordability
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Speaker 1: is an issue. The media is going to hammer affordability.
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Speaker 1: Here's the good news, but don't just listen to the
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Speaker 1: good news, because what you're asking somebody is to not
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Speaker 1: trust their lying eyes, that, yeah, you're hurting, but it's
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Speaker 1: not real. But what you just said, I think, is
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Speaker 1: the secret sauce, because what you said is, No, look
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Speaker 1: at these races where Republicans are articulating this messaging. They're
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Speaker 1: doing well. I think if you show people that we're
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Speaker 1: not losing, because I think that's really what's at the
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Speaker 1: heart of affordability. It's not that they're highlighting, but it
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Speaker 1: is that they're highlighting things are expensive. But what they're
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Speaker 1: doing with that is saying this is why Republicans are
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Speaker 1: going to lose. And I think something that's way more
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Speaker 1: powerful than just the messaging on affordability is is convincing
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Speaker 1: the home team that their team is losing. Because then
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Speaker 1: you leave the game, right? You leave the game early
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Speaker 1: because you think the game is already over. So what
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Speaker 1: you just said is, no, no, no, no, there's still
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Speaker 1: time on the clock and we're actually putting points on
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Speaker 1: the board, right?
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Speaker 4: Without a doubt. And look, they've just really started the
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Speaker 4: bulk of the spending that's going on with President Trump's
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Speaker 4: political operation out there. And what they're doing is they're
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Speaker 4: running issue-oriented ads. And in a lot of these campaigns,
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Speaker 4: we're pointing out the extremism. We're pointing out, and like, look,
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Speaker 4: we used to run conservative versus liberal. These people, they're
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Speaker 4: flat out Marxists when it's all said and done. You
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Speaker 4: look at the Angie Nixons of the world, the El Sayed, Tallarico,
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Speaker 4: he's a socialist too, only he's smart enough not to
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Speaker 4: admit that he's actually a socialist. And one of the
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Speaker 4: things we did in our last national survey was You know,
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Speaker 4: we tested the typical generic ballot question for Congress, Republican
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Speaker 4: versus Democrat, and the Democrats had a five-point lead on that.
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Speaker 4: But when we make it about a Republican who supports
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Speaker 4: free market capitalism versus a Democrat who supports big government
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Speaker 4: socialism— The Republican has a seven-point advantage. And Newt Gingrich
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Speaker 4: has done some great polling on this. And when, you know, voters,
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Speaker 4: nearly two-thirds of voters have negative opinions of big government socialism,
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Speaker 4: and that's where the Democrats are. So we need to
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Speaker 4: let them know that that's what's going on here. And look,
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Speaker 4: the press, even it's, I mean, think about this. In
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Speaker 4: one year, okay, Joe Biden gave us 9% inflation. One year, 9%.
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Speaker 4: You want to talk about things that are going to
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Speaker 4: destroy and bankrupt Social Security? It's 9% inflation. And what
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Speaker 4: happened there was literally the Democrats were telling us and
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Speaker 4: their allies, oh, it's transient. It's transient.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't transient.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that, transient. It was transient. People were
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Speaker 4: looking up the word in the dictionary. They said, ah,
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Speaker 4: don't worry about it. It's not going to last. Trust me.
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Speaker 4: This is not going to last, this slight blip. And
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Speaker 4: in spite of it, we're getting some really good news
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Speaker 4: on the economy, not the least of which is the
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Speaker 4: poverty rate going down, income levels at record highs, and
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Speaker 4: a 5% GDP rate, which people say, oh, that wouldn't happen.
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Speaker 4: What's that a result of? It's a result of President
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Speaker 4: Trump's policies and the working families' tax cuts.
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Speaker 1: Jim McLaughlin, that's why I love having you on. Such
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Speaker 1: an optimist, and you have the numbers to back up
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Speaker 1: your optimism. That's for everybody to hear at home. We
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Speaker 1: are going to win this thing. Get out there. Drag
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Speaker 1: your neighbors. Vote, vote, vote. Let's keep the House. Jim,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here, as always.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, and you're exactly right, David. The stakes are
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Speaker 4: just too high.
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and busts an alleged scheme to steal millions
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Speaker 1: From child leering centers to homeless people, fraud has no
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Speaker 1: moral boundaries, it seems. Yesterday morning, in a series of
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Speaker 1: dramatic raids across Los Angeles, FBI agents in tactical gear
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Speaker 1: descended on the homes of people accused of one of
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Speaker 1: the most cynical crimes imaginable, stealing money meant to help
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Speaker 1: people living on the streets. Federal prosecutors charged three people
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Speaker 1: with diverting roughly $ 12 million in taxpayer funds, money that
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Speaker 1: was supposed to get the most desperate people in that
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Speaker 1: city off the streets. They pocketed it for themselves. FBI
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Speaker 1: Director Kash Patel put it plainly, saying, these defendants are
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Speaker 1: accused of diverting over $ 10 million in taxpayer funds for
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Speaker 1: personal gain, stealing from a homeless support fund. Thanks to
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Speaker 1: President Trump's leadership, fraud no longer has a safe haven
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Speaker 1: in America. And the details are hard to believe. The
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Speaker 1: man prosecutors call the ringleader here, Michael Young, founder of
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Speaker 1: a nonprofit called Home at Last, ironically, well, he ran
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Speaker 1: an organization that took in more than $ 118 million in
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Speaker 1: public money since 2019. Its mission was to house the homeless.
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Speaker 1: But instead, prosecutors allege Young built a web of shell companies.
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Speaker 1: He secretly controlled, funneled the money to himself and misused
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Speaker 1: around $ 7. 5 million of it. And what they did with
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Speaker 1: that money? Well, they bought luxury trips to Tahiti, vintage cars,
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Speaker 1: commercial real estate. I'm not making this up. More than
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Speaker 1: a million dollars of it went to open a nightclub
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Speaker 1: in an adjoining bingo hall in Inglewood. A second defendant,
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Speaker 1: an employee at another homeless nonprofit, he's charged with taking
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Speaker 1: more than $ 180, 000 in bribes to funnel ghost clients, people
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Speaker 1: who never actually lived at the sites, into housing programs
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Speaker 1: so fraud could keep billing. Third defendant, prosecutors say, lied
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Speaker 1: about his experience to land more than a million dollars
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Speaker 1: in grant money, then spend it on his own bail
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Speaker 1: in a domestic violence case, his credit card debt, and
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Speaker 1: video games. He's still at large. And this is only
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Speaker 1: the beginning. First Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Assail said that
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Speaker 1: if you have stolen money meant for the homeless, in
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Speaker 1: his words, your door may be the next one we're
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Speaker 1: going to kick in. BECAUSE WHAT THE FBI HAS UNCOVERED
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Speaker 1: HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN A CITY, IN A STATE,
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Speaker 1: RUN BY ENTIRELY ONE PARTY, WHERE THE MONEY FOR THE
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Speaker 1: MOST VULNERABLE GETS SHOVELED OUT THE DOOR BY HUNDREDS OF
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Speaker 1: MILLIONS AND ALMOST NOBODY CHECKS WHERE A SINGLE DOLLAR OF
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Speaker 1: IT LANDS, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT HER AND THE
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Speaker 1: GUY IN CHARGE. Now, my next guest spent 25 years
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Speaker 1: at the FBI chasing exactly this kind of fraud and corruption.
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Speaker 1: Join me now to discuss how deep this fraud goes.
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Speaker 1: Retired FBI Supervisory Special Agent Chris Henkel. Welcome, David Pollak,
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Speaker 1: Prime Time. Look, we started hearing about fraud about a
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Speaker 1: year ago. And blue states primarily because they're not doing
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Speaker 1: anything to stop it. If it benefits them, California might
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Speaker 1: be the epicenter of the fraud. And now here are
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Speaker 1: the latest bust in homeless fraud. And if you go
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Speaker 1: anywhere in California, you see dozens of these homeless programs,
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Speaker 1: but yet dozens of homeless people everywhere with nowhere to go.
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Speaker 1: So obviously something's wrong. Tell me about this latest case.
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Speaker 6: Well, as you mentioned, the founder of this company took
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Speaker 6: in about $ 118 million allegedly and diverted it to about $ 7. 5
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Speaker 6: to $ 12 million into real estate, travel, and a nightclub.
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Speaker 6: And then the one you mentioned earlier took bribes for
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Speaker 6: fake ghost clients, people that weren't there. And a third
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Speaker 6: spent the grant money on those personal bills. A fourth
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Speaker 6: has already pleaded guilty in pocketing $ 2 million. One of
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Speaker 6: the phrases that we use often when we're dealing with groups,
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Speaker 6: rings of activity, is we tell them the first bad
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Speaker 6: guy on the good guy bus gets the best seat.
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Speaker 6: So you'll probably see a lot of these people start
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Speaker 6: flipping in hopes of gaining some type of advantage in court.
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Speaker 6: But it is something that definitely needed to be addressed.
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Speaker 6: The change that we have now as an administration and
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Speaker 6: a Department of Justice that actually pushes forward with going
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Speaker 6: after and holding these people accountable.
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Speaker 1: And that's the most important part, right? Because this alleged
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Speaker 1: fraud in California has been going on for a long time,
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Speaker 1: especially under Gavin Newsom. I mean, it seems every day
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Speaker 1: there's a new story of alleged fraud coming out of California.
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Speaker 1: It was so bad, in fact, that they had to
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Speaker 1: pass a law keeping independent journalists from reporting on the fraud.
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Speaker 1: That's their solution to it. Instead of stopping it, how
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Speaker 1: deep does the fraud in California go?
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Speaker 6: Well, sunlight's always the best disinfectant, and a 2025 review
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Speaker 6: flagged about $ 2. 3 billion in poorly tracked L.A. funds. And
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Speaker 6: Housing and Urban Development, HUD, just suspended the main local
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Speaker 6: agency for unverified sites and conflicts. Fast money plus weak
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Speaker 6: controls equals predictable fraud. The problem that we have and
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Speaker 6: the difference in going after these states that misuse or
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Speaker 6: have poor accountability of their HUD funds that's different from
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Speaker 6: private citizens. I've worked a number of cases where we
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Speaker 6: go after individual citizens and if they've committed some type
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Speaker 6: of fraud or they've used the money for criminal activity,
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Speaker 6: we freeze all of their assets. We don't allow them
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Speaker 6: to touch anything until it can be sorted out. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 6: when you're dealing with these states, they work through the
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Speaker 6: courts and They try to say, well, we have our
20:37
Speaker 6: oversight in place. They do everything they can to keep
20:40
Speaker 6: that money flowing. I'm hoping that we're going to get
20:43
Speaker 6: more accountability. The ultimate accountability needs to come from our
20:47
Speaker 6: elected representatives. They need to start holding these people accountable.
20:51
Speaker 6: I've confronted a number of them, and I do it
20:53
Speaker 6: civilly and cogently, but I've asked them, hey, a lot
20:56
Speaker 6: of money has been sent into the federal government. You
20:59
Speaker 6: gave this federal money, whether it's to the states or
21:02
Speaker 6: you gave it to an OGA or a lot of
21:06
Speaker 6: this money, you're required to check in on it. Why
21:09
Speaker 6: didn't you check in on it? And if you thought
21:11
Speaker 6: that there was fraud, and I hear you talk about fraud,
21:13
Speaker 6: why didn't you just cut it off until we get
21:15
Speaker 6: a handle on it? That's what we do in most
21:17
Speaker 6: of our investigations dealing with private citizens. I'd like to
21:20
Speaker 6: see something like that go to these states where we
21:22
Speaker 6: just shut the money off.
21:23
Speaker 1: Now, on that, because... Look, a criminal enterprise is a
21:27
Speaker 1: criminal enterprise, and a conspiracy is a conspiracy. And like
21:30
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you start squeezing people, and then you go
21:33
Speaker 1: higher and higher and higher to find out who's really
21:35
Speaker 1: to blame. Now, you look at a state like California, well,
21:38
Speaker 1: there's one guy holding the bag right now. His name's
21:40
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. If he knew this fraud was happening, went
21:43
Speaker 1: out of his way to hide the fraud, passed laws
21:47
Speaker 1: to keep people from uncovering it, at what point does
21:50
Speaker 1: he become... criminally liable for allowing the fraud to take place?
21:54
Speaker 1: Is it even possible?
21:57
Speaker 4: You know, I.
21:59
Speaker 6: Always try to think that it is always possible, but
22:02
Speaker 6: often it is not. We see too many of these
22:05
Speaker 6: elected representatives, these state and local representatives that just seem
22:09
Speaker 6: to get away with it when local individuals seem to
22:12
Speaker 6: get charged and pulled aside. I think this is a
22:16
Speaker 6: little bit different now. We've got a DOJ that's focused
22:18
Speaker 6: on this fraud. You've got the FBI that's actually highlighting
22:22
Speaker 6: it with their top 10 fraudsters and taking these people
22:25
Speaker 6: off the streets. The people want to see that their
22:27
Speaker 6: money is being spent wisely because it is confiscated from
22:30
Speaker 6: the citizens and then given to somebody else. And if
22:33
Speaker 6: we're giving it to somebody else and you're saying it's
22:36
Speaker 6: for some altruistic reason, we do need to have some
22:39
Speaker 6: checks and balances at.
22:40
Speaker 4: Figuring out why that's the case.
22:42
Speaker 6: If not, the first place you should go is to
22:44
Speaker 6: your elected representative and civilly and cogently confront them on it.
22:48
Speaker 1: Hey, what are you doing about this?
22:49
Speaker 6: And I don't want to hear anything about task forces
22:52
Speaker 6: or independent commissions or something. I elected you. What are
22:56
Speaker 6: you doing about it? You're representing me and you're representing
22:58
Speaker 6: my funds. Start there and work your way out. Eventually,
23:02
Speaker 6: if we get enough traction in with our elected representatives,
23:05
Speaker 6: we can see some accountability. Right now, we're going to
23:08
Speaker 6: be beholden to just the, probably the last two years
23:11
Speaker 6: that we've got President Trump in office and this DOJ
23:14
Speaker 6: before Things change again, whether we get a Democrat or
23:17
Speaker 6: another Republican. Even another Republican is probably going to do
23:20
Speaker 6: things a different way. You're going to have a turnover
23:22
Speaker 6: in DOJ. There's no guarantee that we're going to get
23:24
Speaker 6: things done. The people want to see accountability. They want
23:28
Speaker 6: to see people in handcuffs. They want to see money recovered.
23:31
Speaker 1: That is an important message, especially going to midterms and
23:34
Speaker 1: even in 2028. You know, every single election season, you
23:36
Speaker 1: seem to never find a shortage of Democrats saying, you know,
23:40
Speaker 1: you're not helping these people. You're not putting enough money
23:42
Speaker 1: into Medicaid, Medicare, into homelessness, into all of these programs
23:46
Speaker 1: that they say we're not putting enough money into. Well,
23:48
Speaker 1: it turns out the money's there. It's just being misappropriated.
23:51
Speaker 1: And our elected officials, the ones that are complaining we're
23:53
Speaker 1: not funding these programs, are looking the other way when
23:56
Speaker 1: it seems to benefit their campaign. So thank you for
23:58
Speaker 1: all the hard work. Thank you for your service in
24:00
Speaker 1: the FBI. And thank you for coming on the show
24:02
Speaker 1: and talking about this important issue.
24:04
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
24:04
Speaker 3: Thank you.
24:06
Speaker 1: Coming up, a teacher's union, a teacher's union joins a
24:10
Speaker 1: lawsuit to block the government from finding out whether illegal
24:15
Speaker 1: aliens have commercial driver's licenses and driving the buses your
24:19
Speaker 1: kids are on. Why do they want illegal aliens driving buses?
24:24
Speaker 1: We ask that question next.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember when teachers unions were concerned with education? Well,
25:15
Speaker 1: it's 2026 and apparently teachers unions, or one in particular,
25:20
Speaker 1: is fighting to keep the government from finding out, you
25:24
Speaker 1: ready for this? Who's driving your child's school bus? That's right.
25:30
Speaker 1: This week, the American Federation of Teachers, Randy Weingarten's union,
25:36
Speaker 1: she's a woman by the way, ONE OF THE MOST
25:39
Speaker 1: POWERFUL LEFT-WING ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY, WELL, SHE JUMPED INTO
25:43
Speaker 1: A FEDERAL LAWSUIT, AND THE GOAL OF THAT LAWSUIT IS
25:47
Speaker 1: TO STOP THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION FROM GETTING ITS HANDS ON
25:51
Speaker 1: THE NATIONAL DATABASE OF COMMERCIAL DRIVERS. 17 MILLION OF THEM.
25:57
Speaker 1: EVERY AMERICAN WHO HOLDS A LICENSE TO DRIVE A TRUCK,
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Speaker 1: A BIG RIG OR A BUS. Well, for really one simple,
26:08
Speaker 1: very important common sense reason, and that's to find the
26:12
Speaker 1: people who are operating heavy machinery, heavy vehicles in this country,
26:16
Speaker 1: the kids who are driving your kids around, who are
26:19
Speaker 1: not supposed to be in this country. That's right. Illegal
26:22
Speaker 1: aliens driving heavy trucks and your kids. This is part
26:28
Speaker 1: of TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY SEAN DUFFY'S CRACKDOWN ON WHAT ARE CALLED
26:32
Speaker 1: NON-DOMICILED COMMERCIAL LICENSES, LICENSES THAT UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION'S OPEN
26:37
Speaker 1: BORDER POLICIES WERE HANDED OUT BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
26:41
Speaker 1: THE GOVERNMENT IS MOVING TO PULL NEARLY 200,000 OF THEM
26:44
Speaker 1: TO MAKE OUR ROADS SAFER. Duffy has been closing trucking
26:49
Speaker 1: schools that graduate drivers who can't read a road sign
26:52
Speaker 1: in English. And now he wants the records to find
26:56
Speaker 1: the illegal aliens holding commercial licenses, some of whom he
27:00
Speaker 1: warns could be driving a school bus full of children
27:05
Speaker 1: right now on the roads. Standing in the way in
27:09
Speaker 1: a courtroom are the teachers? Really? Randy Weingarten says this
27:16
Speaker 1: is about privacy. Does she care about the privacy of
27:19
Speaker 1: a truck driver? That her members who drive buses deserve
27:24
Speaker 1: to have their information protected?
27:27
Speaker 7: What?
27:28
Speaker 1: So we shouldn't check their backgrounds either? And Secretary Duffy,
27:32
Speaker 1: who put out an ad on this very fight this week,
27:36
Speaker 1: says it's about something else entirely, protecting illegal aliens. That's
27:40
Speaker 1: what they want to do. Who should never have had
27:42
Speaker 1: these driver's licenses in the first place? This is about
27:45
Speaker 1: socialist teachers' unions protecting illegal aliens. Sanctuary school buses. It's
27:50
Speaker 1: about sanctuary school buses, people. So you decide which explanation
27:55
Speaker 1: makes more sense, the union that is supposed to be
27:57
Speaker 1: focused on educating your kids. They've decided that keeping the
28:01
Speaker 1: federal government from knowing who's driving your kids is more
28:04
Speaker 1: important than the safety of them. Seriously. Joining me now
28:09
Speaker 1: for analysis is Angela Morabito, spokesperson for the Defense of
28:13
Speaker 1: Freedom Institute. I say this story, and I would be shocked,
28:20
Speaker 1: but I'm not shocked. What do you have to say
28:23
Speaker 1: about this insane story that teachers unions want to protect
28:26
Speaker 1: illegal aliens driving our kids?
28:28
Speaker 7: It breaks my heart. I'm so grateful to you, David,
28:31
Speaker 7: for covering this story because every parent in America should know.
28:35
Speaker 7: And hey, if you're one of like the 11 people
28:37
Speaker 7: left in America who still thought teacher union bosses might
28:40
Speaker 7: care about kids, this right here needs to remove all doubt.
28:45
Speaker 7: They are here to play politics. They are trying to
28:48
Speaker 7: protect illegal immigrants who have no business being behind the
28:52
Speaker 7: wheel of a large vehicle, let alone one that is
28:54
Speaker 7: full of children. It is a matter of children's safety
28:59
Speaker 7: that Secretary Duffy wins this fight and teacher unions lose,
29:03
Speaker 7: or else we're still not going to know who is
29:05
Speaker 7: driving our school buses and whether children's safety is at risk.
29:10
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think when I think of
29:11
Speaker 1: school bus drivers, I think about when I grew up
29:14
Speaker 1: with school bus drivers. I think about Forrest Gump, where
29:17
Speaker 1: the same lady is driving the bus. It pulls up
29:19
Speaker 1: and he's Forrest Forrest Gump. And, you know, you think about,
29:21
Speaker 1: you know, people from our communities are retirement jobs. These are,
29:24
Speaker 1: you know, they're taking care of our kids. It's an
29:26
Speaker 1: important job. But now, apparently, illegal aliens have these commercial
29:31
Speaker 1: licenses because they were giving them out like candy. When
29:33
Speaker 1: Biden's open borders, they don't speak English. They can't read
29:36
Speaker 1: road signs. And these are the people who are driving
29:39
Speaker 1: our children AROUND AND Rather than protect the children, which, again,
29:44
Speaker 1: doesn't shock me, now they're like, eh, we don't want
29:47
Speaker 1: you to know if an illegal alien is driving your
29:49
Speaker 1: kid around. I mean, between taking the kids out into
29:52
Speaker 1: socialist marches, between all the gay stuff in the schools
29:55
Speaker 1: that they're promoting, in the books, this is just yet
29:57
Speaker 1: another layer, which is why school choice is so important.
30:00
Speaker 1: Getting your kids out of these socialist indoctrination institutions is
30:03
Speaker 1: so important. But did anybody see this coming? I certainly didn't. Yeah,
30:07
Speaker 1: this is a.
30:08
Speaker 7: New low even for the teacher union bosses like Randi Weingarten.
30:12
Speaker 7: She's trying to make this argument about privacy. It's got
30:15
Speaker 7: nothing to do with privacy. The data at the center
30:18
Speaker 7: of this debate are things like the person's social security number,
30:22
Speaker 7: their CDL license number, their driving record, things you would
30:25
Speaker 7: need to get any type of driving job, let alone
30:28
Speaker 7: one that is so important because there's literally precious cargo.
30:31
Speaker 2: These are children.
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Speaker 7: So the idea that you have a right to keep
30:35
Speaker 7: your citizenship status or your CDL number a secret from
30:40
Speaker 7: the world at large, from the government, IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE
30:44
Speaker 7: TO ME. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO RELEASE THIS
30:47
Speaker 7: DATA TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT
30:49
Speaker 7: TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THEY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO
30:53
Speaker 7: THIS DATA. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. AND I HOPE THAT THE
30:56
Speaker 7: COURTS WILL SEE RIGHT THROUGH RANDY'S POLITICAL POSTURING.
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Speaker 1: YEAH. AND WHAT'S SO DUMB ABOUT HER ARGUMENT, SO IF
31:05
Speaker 1: YOU'RE DRIVING A SCHOOL BUS AND YOU'RE GETTING PAID BY
31:08
Speaker 1: THE GOVERNMENT, YOU PROBABLY HAD TO PROVIDE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY
31:11
Speaker 1: NUMBER TO GET THAT JOB. BUT I THINK IT'S A
31:12
Speaker 1: GREAT IDEA. IT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT SECOND THING IS,
31:13
Speaker 1: YOU PAY TAXES, HOPEFULLY, AND IF YOU'RE PAYING TAXES, WELL,
31:16
Speaker 1: YOU GOT TO PROVIDE THAT DATA TO THE GOVERNMENT ANYWAY.
31:18
Speaker 1: SO THIS IDEA THAT, OH, IT VIOLATES OUR PRIVACY, THE
31:21
Speaker 1: GOVERNMENT HAS ALL THAT ANYWAY. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND
31:23
Speaker 1: OUT IF THE PERSON DRIVING A SCHOOL if they're in
31:29
Speaker 1: the country legally, and if they could speak English above that,
31:31
Speaker 1: and if their license was issued in a legal manner.
31:34
Speaker 1: This is about public safety. And of course, the teachers
31:37
Speaker 1: unions are making about politics, politics over children, yet again,
31:40
Speaker 1: from our teachers union. Angela, thank you so much for
31:43
Speaker 1: offering your take on this and something we're going to
31:45
Speaker 1: watch very closely. And we'll see what happens in this lawsuit.
31:47
Speaker 1: But hey, we know how sometimes these courts go. So
31:50
Speaker 1: I have a feeling this is going to be fought
31:51
Speaker 1: out for a long time.
31:53
Speaker 7: Well, thank you for having me. I appreciate you tackling
31:55
Speaker 7: this issue.
31:56
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. when we come back. Now,
32:00
Speaker 1: it sounds like science fiction, but what I'm about to
32:03
Speaker 1: tell you is real. China just approved a computer chip
32:07
Speaker 1: implanted in a human brain for commercial use. And it
32:12
Speaker 1: wants to write the rules, by the way, for how
32:15
Speaker 1: it's governed around the entire world. I'm calling this new
32:18
Speaker 1: segment Technology Thursday with Chrissy Newton, and we're going to
32:21
Speaker 1: be talking about this new technology that you can buy
32:24
Speaker 1: from China to implant in your brain. And later, a
32:27
Speaker 1: student brought a cake to a university celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.
32:32
Speaker 1: And when the college Republicans stood up against her and
32:35
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32:40
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33:25
Speaker 1: It seems we're in the midst of a technological revolution
33:29
Speaker 1: from flock cameras to data centers, AI regulation, UAPs, all
33:36
Speaker 1: of it capturing the minds of America. So tonight. I'M
33:40
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33:55
Speaker 1: CHRISTIE NEWTON. That sounds like science fiction, except it's actually real,
34:02
Speaker 1: and it's happening right now in China. Beijing just became
34:06
Speaker 1: the first country on Earth to approve a brain-computer interface
34:12
Speaker 1: for commercial use. It's not a lab experiment. It's not
34:15
Speaker 1: a trial. It is a coin-sized computer chip implanted in
34:19
Speaker 1: a human head that allows somebody who could be paralyzed
34:23
Speaker 1: to move a cursor and to write his own name
34:26
Speaker 1: again using nothing but his thoughts, similar to Neuralink we've
34:29
Speaker 1: seen with Elon Musk. And here in China... The person
34:34
Speaker 1: is Dong Hui, I think. That's how you pronounce it.
34:37
Speaker 1: He was paralyzed in a car accident. And this past spring,
34:41
Speaker 1: he became the first person in the world to receive
34:44
Speaker 1: one of these brain implants approved for use beyond a
34:48
Speaker 1: research study on a human level. Now, I want to
34:51
Speaker 1: be fair here, because there's a genuine miracle going on here.
34:55
Speaker 1: For a man who couldn't move, couldn't even write his name,
34:58
Speaker 1: now he can do that again. But wow, step back
35:03
Speaker 1: and let's take a big picture look at this because
35:06
Speaker 1: China isn't just doing this one thing. China is racing
35:10
Speaker 1: ahead on artificial intelligence. They're building data centers at a
35:13
Speaker 1: pace the rest of the world can barely keep up with.
35:16
Speaker 1: And now China is moving to wire the human brain
35:19
Speaker 1: directly to a machine. You combine all three of these
35:23
Speaker 1: powerful technologies and you have to start thinking what could
35:28
Speaker 1: possibly come out of this. But here's the part that
35:31
Speaker 1: should really get your attention. Beijing has announced that its
35:34
Speaker 1: goal is to write the global standard for this type
35:37
Speaker 1: of technology to have its government committee decide the rules
35:41
Speaker 1: for the whole planet on it and what it means
35:43
Speaker 1: to put a computer inside a human brain. So think
35:47
Speaker 1: about that with your real brain for a second. The
35:49
Speaker 1: standard for what goes inside your head and how it's controlled,
35:53
Speaker 1: it's being set in Beijing. It's the same government that
35:56
Speaker 1: tracks its own citizens with facial recognition on every street
35:59
Speaker 1: corner and gives you a social credit score for everyday people.
36:03
Speaker 1: And a scientist who was convicted right here in the
36:05
Speaker 1: United States for hiding his ties to a Chinese talent program, well,
36:08
Speaker 1: he's now tonight running a state-funded brain chip laboratory in China. Meanwhile,
36:14
Speaker 1: here in America, we can't even have a conversation about
36:16
Speaker 1: what to do with all of this. So what does
36:19
Speaker 1: this actually mean when the most authoritarian surveillance state on
36:23
Speaker 1: Earth becomes the world leader in reading and one day
36:26
Speaker 1: maybe writing the human mind? Let's talk about that. My
36:30
Speaker 1: next guest reported on this story. And for our first
36:33
Speaker 1: Technology Thursday, welcome Chrissy Newton back to David Pollak Prime Time.
36:38
Speaker 1: You sent me this article. I read it. And I'm like, okay, good.
36:41
Speaker 1: They made this guy be able to walk again. That's cool.
36:43
Speaker 1: We're doing that with Neuralink. And then I thought about
36:45
Speaker 1: it and said, wait a minute, this is something actually
36:47
Speaker 1: scarier because this is the preliminary stages of implanting a
36:51
Speaker 1: chip in a brain, but Once you do this human-computer
36:54
Speaker 1: interface and then you charge it with AI and data centers,
36:58
Speaker 1: are we on the path of making computer-integrated super people
37:02
Speaker 1: in China?
37:04
Speaker 2: Well, maybe not just in China, but around the world.
37:06
Speaker 2: We're doing it in North America as well. There's so
37:09
Speaker 2: many companies that are implementing BCIs right now, but from
37:13
Speaker 2: a healthcare perspective, not a commercial perspective. Right now, China
37:17
Speaker 2: is the first country in the entire world to do
37:20
Speaker 2: this on a commercial base, but it's still under the
37:23
Speaker 2: healthcare regulations. But the difference here is that many different
37:27
Speaker 2: countries around the world can buy now these Chinese products
37:31
Speaker 2: that are in the market. So, you know, they are,
37:34
Speaker 2: I would say, leading right now. We're neck and neck
37:37
Speaker 2: when it comes to the BCI and AI race, but
37:40
Speaker 2: I'm assuming in the next two to three years, China's
37:43
Speaker 2: going to be.
37:43
Speaker 1: Ahead of us. So let's talk about, you say BCI,
37:46
Speaker 1: brain computer interface, BCI. So let's talk about this because yes,
37:51
Speaker 1: like you said, it's being used for medical purposes now,
37:53
Speaker 1: but are people discussing and envisioning this being more than
37:57
Speaker 1: just helping people who are paralyzed walk again? Is it really,
38:01
Speaker 1: let's just download AI into my brain and I'll know everything.
38:04
Speaker 1: Is that where this technology is heading?
38:06
Speaker 2: It can. The question is how fast is that going
38:08
Speaker 2: to happen though? You know, Elon Musk has said that
38:12
Speaker 2: at some point we'll be able to download our memories, right?
38:15
Speaker 2: And that might not be for another 50, could be
38:17
Speaker 2: a hundred years. It just depends on how fast technology accelerates.
38:22
Speaker 2: But we're at the place right now where BCIs would
38:24
Speaker 2: be able to help people with mental health, looking at
38:26
Speaker 2: things like schizophrenia, bipolar. So for example, if someone has
38:30
Speaker 2: schizophrenia and they're having a hallucination, the BC in their
38:33
Speaker 2: mind would be able to regulate that, the serotonin within
38:36
Speaker 2: their brain. but then able to look and censor right in,
38:39
Speaker 2: click on, let's just say, click on that hallucination and
38:43
Speaker 2: be able to say, yes, this is a hallucination or no,
38:46
Speaker 2: it's not. Let's say also the other side of this coin,
38:49
Speaker 2: but yeah, we're in a place right now where it
38:51
Speaker 2: will help immensely in so many different places, but we
38:55
Speaker 2: will be moving so fast. So regulation and policy really
38:59
Speaker 2: needs to be in place. And it Chuck Schumer and
39:02
Speaker 2: many other people have been looking at this. And there's
39:04
Speaker 2: something called MIND Act that was put in front of Congress,
39:08
Speaker 2: I believe, September 21st of last year. And so far,
39:12
Speaker 2: nothing has been done about it. No conversations have been
39:15
Speaker 2: lifted up again about BCI. But the conversation about privacy
39:19
Speaker 2: and emotional control over self, because BCIs in the future
39:23
Speaker 2: potentially could have that. And we've seen this with past
39:26
Speaker 2: experiments in the 1960s. But we need to be mindful
39:29
Speaker 2: that you know, who owns that data? Who owns my emotions?
39:32
Speaker 2: Who controls my emotions? I know it's crazy. I'm even
39:36
Speaker 2: saying that, but this is where we're going along with Ben.
39:40
Speaker 2: And I, you know, this sounds like conspiracy and it's
39:43
Speaker 2: the weirdest thing, you know, living in 2026 and saying this,
39:46
Speaker 2: but there is this conversation about neural elite. So I
39:51
Speaker 2: did break a story earlier this year around the, a
39:55
Speaker 2: Stanley Morgan's report that came out that was leaked to me.
39:57
Speaker 2: And I unfortunately can't say from who, obviously, but it
40:00
Speaker 2: was leaked to me. And it was a private report
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Speaker 2: that was saying that, you know, Elon Musk and Neuralink
40:05
Speaker 2: will be a massive, massive company. And they're worried that
40:09
Speaker 2: if there isn't legislation and other things and sanctions around
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Speaker 2: AI and BCI, that we will be looking at consumer
40:16
Speaker 2: companies and BCI companies creating neuro elites.
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Speaker 1: It's just so great.
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Speaker 3: It's wild.
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Speaker 1: It's just wild because, look, we've just been, I mean,
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Speaker 1: this week we were talking about it. Everybody seems to
40:25
Speaker 1: be talking about AI regulation. And, you know, there's a
40:29
Speaker 1: lot of people who think if you regulate AI, you're
40:32
Speaker 1: basically just going to add a bureaucracy to it and
40:33
Speaker 1: you're going to slow it down. And, well, China... seems
40:35
Speaker 1: to have the brakes off of AI and data centers.
40:37
Speaker 1: The United States is trying to put the brakes on this,
40:40
Speaker 1: and without regulation and without the data centers, President Trump's saying,
40:43
Speaker 1: we're going to fall behind to China, who's our adversary.
40:46
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about these chips in your brain, and
40:49
Speaker 1: if they're being sold for commercial purposes, and you talk
40:51
Speaker 1: about the neuro-elite, it is really kind of a... I
40:56
Speaker 1: don't know where this goes. If you don't regulate it,
41:01
Speaker 1: I mean, here's what I'm struggling with. And I'm sure
41:03
Speaker 1: everybody at home watching is like, this makes no sense.
41:05
Speaker 1: Because if you regulate and you say, OK, Americans are
41:07
Speaker 1: not allowed to have these neural links in their brains
41:10
Speaker 1: or these computer chips in their brains because we just
41:12
Speaker 1: don't think it's moral, ethical or healthy. But then China does.
41:15
Speaker 1: And people go to China and on a black market
41:17
Speaker 1: are getting chips put in their head. I mean, I
41:19
Speaker 1: could see the movie be written. But what does that
41:21
Speaker 1: mean then to a soldier or to a person or
41:24
Speaker 1: if a country is allowed to basically super enhance the
41:27
Speaker 1: intellect of their people? I mean, where does it go
41:30
Speaker 1: from here? I mean, take away the moral and the
41:33
Speaker 1: religious things here. I mean, this whole thing is just
41:36
Speaker 1: so crazy to me. But I mean, you talk maybe
41:38
Speaker 1: 100 years, 50 years, but at the rate that AI
41:41
Speaker 1: is advancing, this thing could be a couple of years
41:43
Speaker 1: away if it's not happening already for people using this
41:45
Speaker 1: to enhance themselves, right?
41:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many things that you covered here that's
41:49
Speaker 2: so important that people are not talking about is the
41:52
Speaker 2: fact that, yes, BCI tourism could be a thing, right?
41:55
Speaker 2: And there has to be, this is why I wrote
41:57
Speaker 2: this article about having a global coalition. You know, we
42:00
Speaker 2: need to look at this with multiple different countries and
42:02
Speaker 2: we do different types of coalitions. We have this with nuclear, right?
42:06
Speaker 2: We have these agreements around the world that we will
42:09
Speaker 2: not use these things and we will only use them
42:11
Speaker 2: for the betterment of humanity, right?
42:13
Speaker 1: Right.
42:13
Speaker 2: And there are controls. So we haven't had this global
42:15
Speaker 2: coalition conversation yet. And that's unfortunate. But the other side
42:20
Speaker 2: of this, it is helping people. It's helping millions of
42:22
Speaker 2: people that are quadriplegic. They're helping millions of people that
42:25
Speaker 2: at point will be able to have, you know, better
42:27
Speaker 2: mental health. There's so many things that it's helping along
42:31
Speaker 2: with vets. There's a huge amount of vets with BCIs
42:34
Speaker 2: and prosthetics that have been going on for years now.
42:37
Speaker 2: DARPA has been investing into BCIs. So the American government
42:41
Speaker 2: has been investing in this technology since the early 60s.
42:44
Speaker 2: And the first company that they invested in was Tom
42:47
Speaker 2: Oxley's Synchron. And that was way before Neuralink and way
42:51
Speaker 2: before Elon Musk. And so this conversation has been happening
42:55
Speaker 2: within the government, but it's about commercialization. And that's where
42:59
Speaker 2: we need to be really mindful is about how this
43:02
Speaker 2: commercialization is going to happen, how it can happen globally
43:05
Speaker 2: and doing it for the better of humanity, because it
43:08
Speaker 2: is scary. And when we look at China, I'm going to,
43:11
Speaker 2: you know, I'll give them a hand. Let's say it,
43:13
Speaker 2: you know, a clap for them in that way, because
43:15
Speaker 2: their implementation is fast. And this is the one thing
43:17
Speaker 2: that we don't do well in North America is we
43:20
Speaker 2: don't take something where we know that it can better
43:22
Speaker 2: humanity and implement it quickly. We have too much bureaucracy,
43:25
Speaker 2: too much red tape. And so within, and again, we
43:29
Speaker 2: can get into the conversation of China will use this
43:31
Speaker 2: for the betterment of humanity and their own people. That
43:33
Speaker 2: is up to them and the conversation that we'll see
43:35
Speaker 2: in the future. But right now, their system and their
43:39
Speaker 2: laws are giving the ability for AI to be implemented
43:43
Speaker 2: so quickly into the healthcare, so quickly into the education
43:45
Speaker 2: system so that they can test it out and they
43:47
Speaker 2: can figure out what are the pros and cons for
43:51
Speaker 2: now and in the future. And so that's something that
43:53
Speaker 2: we need to stop debating. We need to start really
43:55
Speaker 2: making action.
43:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, the future is a fascinating and frightening place. Thank
44:02
Speaker 1: you for bringing us this story. People are watching going,
44:07
Speaker 1: where are we going from here? A lot of people
44:08
Speaker 1: are terrified by this stuff. It is really interesting. Look
44:11
Speaker 1: forward to having a conversation with you about the next
44:13
Speaker 1: interesting and terrifying thing next Thursday. Kristen Newton, thanks so
44:17
Speaker 1: much for being here.
44:18
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
44:19
Speaker 1: Still ahead. A college student celebrates Charlie Kirk's assassination with
44:25
Speaker 1: a cake. And the people who called it out were
44:29
Speaker 1: the ones facing expulsion. How that happened, that's coming up next.
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Speaker 1: Now, last week, we honored the one-year anniversary when Charlie
45:21
Speaker 1: Kirk was taken from us. And on that anniversary, on
45:25
Speaker 1: the very day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated on that
45:29
Speaker 1: college campus for the crime of talking politics, a student
45:33
Speaker 1: at the University of Utah walked up to a table
45:37
Speaker 1: being held by the college Republicans, and she was carrying
45:41
Speaker 1: a cake. And written across that cake were two words,
45:46
Speaker 1: happy birthday. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I
45:50
Speaker 1: DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT
45:53
Speaker 1: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
45:56
Speaker 1: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW
45:59
Speaker 1: WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
46:11
Speaker 1: So a college Republican named Riley Barnes did what almost
46:14
Speaker 1: any decent person would do. Well, she took a photo
46:17
Speaker 1: of it. She posted it online. And she asked a
46:19
Speaker 1: single question, the question we were all wondering, what is
46:23
Speaker 1: wrong with students in Utah? She named the girl. She
46:27
Speaker 1: didn't publish her address. She simply showed the country what
46:30
Speaker 1: was happening in broad daylight on that campus. And the post, well,
46:33
Speaker 1: took off. Six million people saw it. BUT HERE'S WHERE
46:36
Speaker 1: THE STORY GETS CRAZY. I MEAN, CRAZIER THAN IT IS
46:38
Speaker 1: THAT SOME LIBERAL MADE A CAKE TO CELEBRATE SOMEBODY'S DEATH.
46:42
Speaker 1: BECAUSE THE UNIVERSITY LOOKED AT ALL OF IT, THE STUDENT
46:45
Speaker 1: CELEBRATING THE ASSASSINATION AND A STUDENT WHO WAS OFFENDED BY IT,
46:49
Speaker 1: AND INSTEAD OF DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE STUDENT THAT MOCKED
46:51
Speaker 1: A MAN'S DEATH, THEY DECIDED TO INVESTIGATE THE REPUBLICAN. SHOCKING,
46:56
Speaker 1: I KNOW. AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE UNIVERSITY, AS
46:59
Speaker 1: FAR AS WE KNOW, IS NOT DOING ANYTHING TO DISCIPLINE
47:01
Speaker 1: THE WOMAN WITH THE Now, it opened a disciplinary case
47:07
Speaker 1: against Riley Barnes and another college Republican. They accused them
47:10
Speaker 1: of threatening and endangering behavior for the act of posting
47:14
Speaker 1: that photograph. Not, it wasn't threatening or endangering that the
47:18
Speaker 1: student showed up and celebrated murder. No, no, no. It
47:22
Speaker 1: was endangering behavior for the students to talk about it. Now,
47:26
Speaker 1: the students say the university is trying, well, they said
47:29
Speaker 1: that this university was trying to expel them for it.
47:33
Speaker 1: That's right. The person who mocked the political murder is
47:35
Speaker 1: being treated as the victim. Surprise, surprise. And the students
47:38
Speaker 1: who dare point at it, they were treated as the threat. Now,
47:41
Speaker 1: the university says they were reviewing accusations of harassment and
47:45
Speaker 1: the sharing of personal information that it wants to protect
47:47
Speaker 1: both free speech and student safety. But it didn't matter.
47:50
Speaker 1: IT DIDN'T MATTER. THE STUDENTS DIDN'T POST ANYONE'S PRIVATE INFORMATION.
47:53
Speaker 1: THEY POSTED THE PHOTO. VERY PUBLIC ACTS. THE DOXING THAT
47:57
Speaker 1: HAPPENED AFTER THAT YOU MIGHT HEAR THE LEFT COMPLAIN ABOUT,
47:59
Speaker 1: THAT WAS DONE BY STRANGERS, NOT THE STUDENT. AND BY
48:02
Speaker 1: THE WAY, AFTER PUBLIC OUTRAGE THAT THE REPUBLICAN STUDENT WAS
48:06
Speaker 1: BEING TARGETED AND THREATENED WITH EXPULSION, PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR MIKE LEE,
48:12
Speaker 1: PEOPLE LIKE ERICA KIRK HERSELF, EVEN HARMEET DILLON SAID THE
48:16
Speaker 1: CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO University said, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.
48:22
Speaker 1: It's OK. We're not going to there's not going to
48:24
Speaker 1: be any disciplinary action. No charges. It's like being hustled
48:27
Speaker 1: in a third world country when they want to shake
48:29
Speaker 1: you down for a couple of bucks when you're driving
48:31
Speaker 1: on the road. Once you fight back, they say, OK,
48:33
Speaker 1: no ticket. That's exactly what's happening here for reaction. I'm
48:37
Speaker 1: honored to bring on my good friend, Kevin Smith, host
48:40
Speaker 1: of the Loud Majority Live. Kevin Smith, thank you so
48:44
Speaker 1: much for being on David Pollak Prime Time. What? We
48:46
Speaker 1: already know the left is nuts, and we know that
48:48
Speaker 1: they've already vandalized statues. We know they were celebrating Charlie
48:52
Speaker 1: Kirk's murder when he was murdered, celebrating his murder and
48:55
Speaker 1: the anniversary. What a new low, making a cake, bringing
48:58
Speaker 1: it to a table of Republicans, and then, of course,
49:01
Speaker 1: when anybody stands up to those idiots, they want to
49:04
Speaker 1: expel the students who are standing up to them. Make
49:06
Speaker 1: this make sense, please.
49:08
Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, I can't make it make sense. This is
49:11
Speaker 3: not the first time we've heard something like this happen.
49:14
Speaker 3: Students were threatened with expulsion... for having myself and Sean
49:17
Speaker 3: Farish come speak at their turn Point chapter here on
49:21
Speaker 3: Long Island a couple of years ago, and eventually the
49:23
Speaker 3: event was canceled. But this is what these very, very brave,
49:27
Speaker 3: very brave college administrators do. They threaten two 22-year-olds with
49:33
Speaker 3: expulsion from school and don't provide them with any legal counsel,
49:37
Speaker 3: don't provide them with any representation. Their parents can't be there.
49:41
Speaker 3: And the girl who celebrates the murder of somebody gets
49:44
Speaker 3: to cry victim. I think that if you're going to
49:46
Speaker 3: hold up a cake celebrating the murder of somebody, you
49:50
Speaker 3: want to be brave enough to have your name put
49:51
Speaker 3: out there.
49:52
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and Kevin... You and I are preaching
49:55
Speaker 1: to a choir here. We're going to agree with each
49:57
Speaker 1: other on this. I'm sure the entire audience watching is
50:00
Speaker 1: going to agree as well, is that for years, since
50:04
Speaker 1: basically put on the red hat, Republicans are fair game.
50:07
Speaker 1: They could flip the hat off your head. If you
50:08
Speaker 1: go to a campus, you get chased off violently. We've
50:10
Speaker 1: seen what they did to Charlie in the worst example
50:12
Speaker 1: of what they do to people that they disagree with.
50:16
Speaker 1: BUT WE'VE SEEN THE ATTACKS, THE SPITTING, THE DOXING, THE DOXING.
50:20
Speaker 1: I MEAN, REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES ARE DOXED, THEY'RE SWATTED, THEY'RE
50:22
Speaker 1: CHASED OUT OF RESTAURANTS. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST STANDARD
50:26
Speaker 1: OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR THE But in this instance, these people
50:33
Speaker 1: show up with a cake. How long is this going
50:38
Speaker 1: to be tolerated for? And honestly, do you think they
50:41
Speaker 1: would have reversed this expulsion decision had we not called
50:44
Speaker 1: it out? I mean, maybe this is what we have
50:45
Speaker 1: to start doing. It's calling it out. So there's consequences
50:48
Speaker 1: for the radical left, right?
50:50
Speaker 4: Well, absolutely.
50:51
Speaker 3: And that's what the Internet is for, to call this
50:53
Speaker 3: sort of stuff out. Because, look, when the kids were
50:55
Speaker 3: threatened with expulsion for me and Sean— you know, they
50:59
Speaker 3: just canceled the event because there wasn't, at the time,
51:01
Speaker 3: we didn't have a way to get that sort of
51:03
Speaker 3: information out there. But after some public pressure from Senator
51:06
Speaker 3: Mike Lee and many other people, they backed down because
51:09
Speaker 3: it turns out when you are dealing with a bully,
51:12
Speaker 3: the only way to deal with them is to fight back,
51:15
Speaker 3: is to continue to put pressure on them to play offense.
51:18
Speaker 3: You don't play defense with a bully. And the way
51:21
Speaker 3: we stop this from happening is we keep going. We
51:25
Speaker 3: keep doing it. We keep the pressure on them because
51:29
Speaker 3: if we don't, they're going to keep coming back at us.
51:31
Speaker 3: So to the college Republicans, the turning point chapters out there,
51:35
Speaker 3: keep tabling, keep getting it all on film, keep exposing it,
51:39
Speaker 3: and the internet will do its job.
51:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was at a one of the
51:44
Speaker 1: Turning Point Club events. You know, these are the high
51:45
Speaker 1: school students that organized to, you know, have a safe
51:50
Speaker 1: space in liberal high schools to be conservative. And I
51:54
Speaker 1: went to one of their events and I was talking
51:56
Speaker 1: to one of the girls who had or wanted to
51:57
Speaker 1: have a chapter. One girl's chapter got kicked off campus.
52:00
Speaker 1: The other one, they wouldn't let him have a chapter.
52:03
Speaker 1: TURNING POINT HAS TO HAVE A WHOLE OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT'S
52:05
Speaker 1: SEPARATE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT WON'T ALLOW THEM TO
52:08
Speaker 1: HAVE CHAPTERS ON CAMPUSES BUT THE LGBT CLUB AND ALL
52:11
Speaker 1: THE OTHER CLUBS ARE ALLOWED. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
52:13
Speaker 1: WE'RE DEALING WITH INTOLERANT at the high school level. This
52:19
Speaker 1: is how we honor Charlie Kirk. This is how we
52:22
Speaker 1: honor his legacy. This is how we carry it forward.
52:24
Speaker 1: Exactly like you said, we don't let them win. We
52:26
Speaker 1: keep pushing back at the bullies. We keep speaking. We
52:29
Speaker 1: keep tabling. And when people do dumb stuff like this,
52:32
Speaker 1: we call it out for the world to see. And
52:34
Speaker 1: eventually that behavior won't be tolerated, right?
52:37
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
52:37
Speaker 3: And look, every single one of you is a reporter.
52:40
Speaker 3: Every one of you is a reporter. So if your
52:42
Speaker 3: high school principal or one of your college deans say
52:45
Speaker 3: you can't have a Turning Point chapter, you record that
52:47
Speaker 3: on your phone and you send it out to the
52:49
Speaker 3: people who you think need to hear it. And I
52:51
Speaker 3: promise you, I promise you there is nothing some high
52:54
Speaker 3: school dean wants less than to get a phone call
52:58
Speaker 3: from legal counsel at Turning Point USA or from James
53:02
Speaker 3: O'Keefe or from Scott Pressler. I promise you these people
53:05
Speaker 3: do not want to be famous. And I tell all
53:07
Speaker 3: of the young people that if you are getting pressured
53:09
Speaker 3: by a teacher, Record that, and I promise you, we
53:12
Speaker 3: will make them famous.
53:14
Speaker 1: And that's exactly right, and we're going to call it out,
53:16
Speaker 1: and we all should call it out, because that's exactly right.
53:18
Speaker 1: And by the way, this girl, the victim in this case,
53:21
Speaker 1: the one who baked the cake, who didn't want all
53:23
Speaker 1: the attention, well, that's exactly right. I mean, she clearly
53:26
Speaker 1: wanted the attention. She just didn't want negative attention. She
53:28
Speaker 1: wanted to be celebrated as some sort of purple-haired folk hero.
53:31
Speaker 1: We're standing up to these folks. Kevin Smith, loud majority.
53:35
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you being here. Great takes, as always.
53:38
Speaker 3: Anytime.
53:40
Speaker 1: That is our show for tonight. Make sure you join
53:43
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53:48
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54:09
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