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Who are the Amish? · Stuff You Should Know

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Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always is
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Speaker 1: Charles Chuck Bryant. Yes right, yes, yeah, Hey Chuck. How's
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Speaker 1: it going? Man? Oh? Great? Yeah, things are great. You know,
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Speaker 1: I love podcasting on Monday mornings or afternoon's afternoon? What
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Speaker 1: time is It's one? It seems like I just got
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Speaker 1: here though. Yeah. I've been getting here late lately, and
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that extra half hour it feels
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Speaker 1: like it eats up four hours of productivities. We are
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Speaker 1: you driving a buggy to work? I am I, Chuck.
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Speaker 1: I We should say I and nay throughout this, Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: nay on the I nay um Chuck, Josh. Let me
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Speaker 1: take you back in time a little bit, say seventeen seven.
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Speaker 1: It's a long time. Imagine Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Okay. All
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, a new group of people show up
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Speaker 1: and they seem nice enough, you know, they seem hard
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Speaker 1: working or they like to, you know, use their draft
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Speaker 1: horses for locomotion. And and all sorts of normal eighteenth
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Speaker 1: century early eighteenth century stuff. But in very short order,
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Speaker 1: the welcome to the New world colonizing neighbor pies start
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Speaker 1: drying up as the surrounding people who will heretofore be
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Speaker 1: referred to as the English, realized that this new group
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Speaker 1: of people who are showing up don't really care to
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Speaker 1: socialize with them, or anyone else in the outside world
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Speaker 1: for that matter. Yeah, that that's the way they like it.
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Speaker 1: It is. Well, we're talking about Chuck. In case you
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Speaker 1: haven't guessed, is the Amish. I knew this because you
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Speaker 1: read the article. Yeah, good thing. These people are incredibly
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Speaker 1: interesting to me. Yeah. Me. To remember, we said on
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Speaker 1: some podcast ways back that, uh, the Amish will never
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Speaker 1: hear it. We can say whatever we want, and all
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Speaker 1: these people wrote in like jerks, what about rum spring
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Speaker 1: up yea, which we'll get to in a minute. But
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Speaker 1: they're absolutely correct. It's entirely possible there's an Amish kid
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Speaker 1: running around, although it should be noted that we did
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Speaker 1: not hear from any Amish kid on rum Springer, so
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Speaker 1: take that. They may have heard it, though they may
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Speaker 1: just not be real comfy with the typing comfortable with.
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Speaker 1: Maybe there's letters on crystal meth rum springing. Yeah, we'll
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Speaker 1: get to that in a minute. Okay, all right, So
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Speaker 1: again we're talking about the Amish who did first arrive
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Speaker 1: in the United States and seventy seven and actually when
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Speaker 1: they did get to Pennsylvania and at that time they
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Speaker 1: were still a fairly young Christian sect, right, yeah, sixte
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Speaker 1: is when they were actually formed because a Swiss Mennonite
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Speaker 1: named Jacob I'm on basically didn't like three things. I know.
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Speaker 1: The three things are so true. I want to split
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Speaker 1: off because I'm not. I want to keep watching people's feet,
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Speaker 1: which I can understand. It's pretty cool because if you
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Speaker 1: ever washed someone's feet, you grew up a Christian, right,
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Speaker 1: did you ever do that? Now? I did once I
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Speaker 1: was even Catholic. Wow, it's weird. Yeah, and it is humbling,
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Speaker 1: especially if you're like twelve. You did that as a
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Speaker 1: part of church. Wow, I've never heard of that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, modern like modern churches, I guess, right,
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Speaker 1: But the point is it's it's meant to be a
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Speaker 1: humbling experience. You're washing the feet of another human being,
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Speaker 1: feet and dirty, and you know it's let me tell you, buddy,
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Speaker 1: you've had to wash your feet, it would be it
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Speaker 1: would be humbling. Humbling is when one word that comes
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Speaker 1: to mind. Yeah, you'd see new shades of greens. What else?
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Speaker 1: Did he not want to celebrate Josh Communion twice a year?
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Speaker 1: He wanted to celebrate it twice a year. Once said
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Speaker 1: once a year. So he said, screw that and the
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Speaker 1: foot washing and then um, the Mennonites basically wanted to
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Speaker 1: mingle with the English or I guess they weren't the
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Speaker 1: English at the time, but mingle with society. And he said,
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Speaker 1: I'm not down with that. So and that's going to
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Speaker 1: create a new deal called the Amish, right, and it did, um,
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Speaker 1: and it took off like a rocket. But I mean
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Speaker 1: that last one is probably the most definitive characteristic of
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Speaker 1: the Amish. You know that they didn't and still don't
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Speaker 1: socialize with outsiders as much as possible. Right, Yep, that'll
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Speaker 1: keep popping up throughout this podcast, I predict watch for it.
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Speaker 1: And they're still in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, as well as uh
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Speaker 1: Ohio and Indiana and Utah and Canada. Canada. Utah is
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Speaker 1: the newest place they're having to go further and further west.
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Speaker 1: For some reason, Utah makes sense. No, Mormonism has nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with it, but it just makes sense. It
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Speaker 1: definitely does, more so than like if they rooted down
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Speaker 1: in Vegas or something, which they never ever would. They
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Speaker 1: shy away from electricity, which is one reason they'd stay
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Speaker 1: away from Vegas, which probably would just scared the hell
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Speaker 1: out of the Amish going down the strip in Vegas. Um,
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Speaker 1: so let's talk about why they do this stuff. They
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Speaker 1: dressed plainly, right, yeah, very much. They wear The men
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Speaker 1: wear dark suits, usually a blue shirt with some suspenders,
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Speaker 1: a black brimmed hat, which is the shape of the
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Speaker 1: hat apparently tells you a lot about the man, like
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Speaker 1: if you're more old school, it'll have a different crown
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Speaker 1: and brim with which I don't understand how that fully works.
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Speaker 1: But the hat makes the man, Yeah, but not the clothes. Well, well,
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Speaker 1: the clothes obviously, but the clothes are all the same.
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Speaker 1: The hat is where you can vary it to say
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Speaker 1: something about yourself. I got to I did not know that.
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Speaker 1: So those are the dudes, and they and the ladies
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Speaker 1: they wear frock dresses, black capes, which I find kind
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Speaker 1: of dashing. Sure, um. And if they're baptized, they cover
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Speaker 1: their hair yea all the time and they don't cut
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Speaker 1: their hair the women, no, but men do wear their
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Speaker 1: short their hair short, cropped beards if they are married. Correct,
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Speaker 1: But no mustache. Why I thought I added something to
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Speaker 1: do with biker or something. Tom Selle, who just celebrated
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Speaker 1: his birthday by the way, let me know. So. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's because they and this was a brand new factor
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Speaker 1: me because mustaches are associated with the military, at least
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Speaker 1: to the Amish, and they're not downe with the military now,
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Speaker 1: not at all. As a matter of fact. They they
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Speaker 1: reject any um combat uh what's it called, chuck. They
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Speaker 1: reject violence against another human and even in self defense,
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Speaker 1: which means you can't go to war because you're going
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Speaker 1: to be put in a situation like that. Um. They
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Speaker 1: they have been in the past conscripted, That's what I
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Speaker 1: was thinking of. They have been conscripted to um serving
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Speaker 1: non combat roles during the draft. Yeah. And I think
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Speaker 1: during World War Two there was a couple of Amish
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Speaker 1: guys who were conscientious objectors who were basically put in hell,
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Speaker 1: which was the statemental hospitals, and I believe New York
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Speaker 1: or New Jersey. Um, and they actually lead the charge
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Speaker 1: in exposing the horrible qualities of life at these places
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Speaker 1: and some real reform in statemental institution. Do we really
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Speaker 1: need Amish in the army though, I mean even during
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Speaker 1: the draft? No, But would you want an Amish guy
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Speaker 1: in the trenches next to you? Well, you'd never see
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Speaker 1: one there. Well yeah, exactly, you know, I imagine they
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Speaker 1: go to prisoner or whatever. But there, that does bring
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Speaker 1: up a point that kind of arose in my head
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Speaker 1: while I was reading this article, Chuck, and that is that, Um,
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Speaker 1: they live in the United States. So even though they
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Speaker 1: are this very peaceful, tranquil um, non violent society, they
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Speaker 1: still live in the United States. So yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: if there is a draft, this is that's a that's
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Speaker 1: a really important moment in history. So yeah, they gotta
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Speaker 1: gotta do something. Everybody's pitching in you. You can't live
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Speaker 1: entirely separately in my opinion. You know how I feel
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Speaker 1: about Buddhist monks who go up in the mountains for
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Speaker 1: their their whole lives. Draft them. I think the exact
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Speaker 1: get him in the trenches. So Chuck, Yes, Josh, like
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Speaker 1: we said, Um, the Amish women wear bonnets on their
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Speaker 1: hair after they're baptized. The Amish, being Anabaptists, don't believe
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Speaker 1: in infant baptism. Neither did I as just a regular
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Speaker 1: Baptist Southern Baptist. It makes sense like we don't baptized,
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Speaker 1: we don't at birth or anything like that. You have
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Speaker 1: to be old enough to make your own decision. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense to me. I was
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Speaker 1: baptized as a baby and I have no recollection of
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Speaker 1: it whatsoever, And aside from the Catholic Gill has been
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Speaker 1: virtually meaningless to me. I was baptized at sixteen and
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Speaker 1: was led to the Lord with air quotes under my
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Speaker 1: gay youth director. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he really is gay.
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Speaker 1: He he later on, I didn't think you would call
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Speaker 1: him gay. A few wives and we all know you
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Speaker 1: love you chuck. He later on came out and the
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Speaker 1: church said, I don't think I want you to be
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Speaker 1: director anymore. Does that no fire your baptism. I'm looking
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Speaker 1: and I'm looking into that. So were you baptized in
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Speaker 1: the river? No? No, no, just in the pool behind
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Speaker 1: the in the church. You know, modern Baptism not a
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Speaker 1: brother world though. Um, I I have to say, I
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Speaker 1: find that, um, just a really good idea that you
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Speaker 1: can't get baptized until you're fully aware of what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: And my hat, my my wide brim hat is off
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Speaker 1: to the Amish and to your sect for pursuing that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Stone Mountain First Baptist Church exactly that that sect. So, um,
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Speaker 1: you enter the church when you're sixteen. If you want
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Speaker 1: to write, yeah, you make the choice to what is.
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Speaker 1: But here we reach rum Springer, right, that is when
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Speaker 1: you are allowed to live among the English and do
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Speaker 1: crystal math and sell it to I understand there's a
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Speaker 1: pretty big druggring um of Amish kids that were selling drugs.
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Speaker 1: You can dance and play guitar and watch TV and
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Speaker 1: waste electricity, use electricity, yeah, and wasted. Yeah. Oh I
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Speaker 1: imagine if you're just coming into electricity at age sixteen,
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Speaker 1: you wasted like it's nobody's business. Yeah. But yeah, so
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Speaker 1: you you are allowed to go off for a period
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Speaker 1: of time. Uh, and you are in rum spring which
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Speaker 1: means run around. Yeah. Germans German, like all Amish stuff
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Speaker 1: is German, right, they speak a low German amongst themselves,
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Speaker 1: high German for mass. But they all know how to
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Speaker 1: speak English. So when they actually do have to associate
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Speaker 1: with outsiders, they do. But on rum Spring, you imagine
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Speaker 1: they're running around speaking English, probably doing drugs, and then
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Speaker 1: some of them. We're not saying they all do that,
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Speaker 1: of course no, but they can. They can and they do.
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Speaker 1: Because that documentary The Double's Playground I saw that recently,
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Speaker 1: isn't any good? Well, yeah, and that's where the crystal
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Speaker 1: mething came from. Those a kid who got mixed up
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Speaker 1: in dealing it and um basically had to move, you know,
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Speaker 1: because some guy was trying to kill him, some rival
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Speaker 1: drug dealer was trying to kill him. Wow, so he
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Speaker 1: really experienced the English life. He is like, object to
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Speaker 1: this conscientiously coming for you. It's weird though, man, because
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Speaker 1: it'll show parties and a lot of them. Like this
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Speaker 1: kid was a boy and he, you know, dressed normally,
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Speaker 1: like what if you call a sixteen year old attire
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Speaker 1: these days normal? But the girls were still wearing their thing.
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Speaker 1: So they were at this party listening to the jay
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Speaker 1: Z with their frock and her bonnet han drinking a beer. Wow. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I gotta check that movie. It's really good, awesome, it's
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Speaker 1: really it's very insightful. Okay, So I had a pretty dark,
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Speaker 1: shady past when I had my own little rum springer. Sure, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not. As a matter of fact, I have ended mine.
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Speaker 1: I ended it a while back, but I fully ended it.
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Speaker 1: Yet it's nice. I'm growing up now, chuck. Um, what's
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Speaker 1: for me? Though? There was nothing that I was going
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Speaker 1: to test out. It was all all testing, right, but
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Speaker 1: there wasn't like I wasn't going to examine, like did
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Speaker 1: I do? I want to make a choice between good
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Speaker 1: and evil? Although old amately that's what it panned out
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Speaker 1: to be, right, which did you choose? Um? Can you
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Speaker 1: see the smile? I'm so bright and sunny today. Yeah? Um.
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Speaker 1: With these kids, once they reach a certain point, and
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Speaker 1: I didn't get in the article how long run spring?
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Speaker 1: At lasts? Maybe a year? I'm not positive either, but
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Speaker 1: let's say, well we'll go with a year, okay. And
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Speaker 1: and then they decide, Okay, do I want to go
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Speaker 1: back to the church or do I want to just
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Speaker 1: continue living with the English? Um. Since they haven't taken
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Speaker 1: an oath to the church yet, they could conceivably still
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Speaker 1: be um. They could have ties to their family, their
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Speaker 1: Amish family, even if they decided to leave the Amish community.
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Speaker 1: They're not shunned, which is what they call it, right,
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Speaker 1: So they haven't broken an oath to the church, so
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Speaker 1: they're not shunned. What is shunning, intel shunning is when
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Speaker 1: you have taken that up to the church. So you've
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Speaker 1: made that decision beyond the age of sixteen, and then
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Speaker 1: you leave and don't come back. Well, you're not wanted back.
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Speaker 1: You can't come back though. If you're sixteen and you leave,
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Speaker 1: they will let you back in if you say, boy,
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Speaker 1: I've made a big mistake. But if you leave forever,
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Speaker 1: they will shun you permanently, which means no ties, no family,
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Speaker 1: no Christmas at home, no Thanksgiving, no Easter, nothing like that.
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Speaker 1: They celebrate all those Yeah, well they're Christians. Yeah, alright,
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Speaker 1: So the kid and what's what's what's um? I find
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Speaker 1: it hartening that the vast majority of Amish kids who
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Speaker 1: go on rum Springer come back, you know, so they
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Speaker 1: they've made the choice. Now they're going to become indoctrinated
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Speaker 1: in the church their sixteen but they either towards the
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Speaker 1: end of the sixteenth year, right right, and they're saying
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Amish. What is Amish life like, Well,
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Speaker 1: they've already experienced a lot of it because you grow
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Speaker 1: up with the ordining being pounded into your head, which
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Speaker 1: is the German word for order. And that's there, they said.
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Speaker 1: It's mostly unwritten, just their sort of way of life.
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Speaker 1: How to be Amish Amish for dummies, right, is the
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Speaker 1: ord And and you actually don't have to be real
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Speaker 1: book smart actually, because the Amish don't believe in um
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Speaker 1: extraneous book learning. Why would they. They think you need
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Speaker 1: to learn a vocation or craft and probably and it
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Speaker 1: makes a certain amount of sense from a very religious standpoint.
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Speaker 1: Knowing too much is kind of unhealthy and frankly a
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Speaker 1: little vain. We're very vain, chuck, Well, and that's what
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Speaker 1: it's all about. You're talking about the dress and the
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Speaker 1: electricity and all that. All of that has to do
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Speaker 1: with the fact that they shun uh things of the world,
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Speaker 1: vanity and ego and pride, and you know, clothing obviously
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Speaker 1: leads to that when you're all wearing different clothes, you
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Speaker 1: want to dress nice and dress better than your neighbor,
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Speaker 1: save up money and spend money and decide spend time
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Speaker 1: deciding what to wear. None of that works with the Amish,
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Speaker 1: and like we said, neither does electricity. All of their
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Speaker 1: power comes from either they may have electricity, but it's
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Speaker 1: coming from a diesel generator um. Or they have gas.
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Speaker 1: They can burn gas in their house in oil obviously right. Um.
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Speaker 1: And so they don't have artificial light, which makes me
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Speaker 1: wonder something and you couldn't find the answer to this.
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Speaker 1: But um, before the advent of artificial light, apparently humans
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Speaker 1: had a totally different sleep pattern then we have. Now
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Speaker 1: we went to bed mater earlier, but about two three one,
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Speaker 1: sometime in the night we'd wake up for a good
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Speaker 1: thirty thirty minutes or an hour, smoke a pipe, read
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Speaker 1: a book, hang out that kind of thing, and then
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Speaker 1: go back to sleep. But with do you really smoke
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Speaker 1: a pipe read a book? Do you do you smoke
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Speaker 1: a pipe while you read a book? Yeah? Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: just go back to sleep. And Emily's always like, what
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Speaker 1: are you doing? You're like, I'm just being a plane.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Um. But I wonder if the Amish still
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Speaker 1: have that kind of sleep pattern, because apparently artificial light
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Speaker 1: eradicated that. Well. Yeah, and even if you're using oil
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Speaker 1: lamps and candles, you don't want to in those until midnight,
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Speaker 1: you know, so you you would probably go to bed earlier.
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Speaker 1: Otherwise you're wasting They're not big into waste, you'd be
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Speaker 1: wasting the oil just to stay up till midnight, because
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Speaker 1: what do you stand up for? Because all I gotta
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Speaker 1: do is get back up the next day and work
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Speaker 1: your butt off. So yeah, and they do because again
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Speaker 1: they're farmers. And one of the reasons that they've hung
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Speaker 1: on to farming, um is, as I guess it's kind
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Speaker 1: of symbolic, chuck, it's a way to separate themselves. Um.
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Speaker 1: The rest of the world has, you know, moved forward
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Speaker 1: and with its book learning and all that book learning. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've got a crop list for you if you want
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Speaker 1: to know. Let's hear it in order of acreage. The
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Speaker 1: Amish grow corn the most. Makes sense, hey, wheat, tobacco,
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Speaker 1: which kind of surprised me. Uh, soybean, barley, and potatoes.
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Speaker 1: And that's just the farming tip. They also obviously they
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Speaker 1: quilt and they make uh they're big craftsmen, furniture builders. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: apparently they're they're big new thing now or utility sheds um.
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Speaker 1: And and as you mentioned, the quilt Amish quilts are
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Speaker 1: like among some of the ladies, amongst certain quarters of femininity.
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Speaker 1: Amish quilts are like as good as it gets. And
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Speaker 1: apparently you used to be able to get these things,
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Speaker 1: really detailed ornate quilts um for nothing. And then after
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Speaker 1: a while the Amish were like, oh, English, you really
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Speaker 1: like these things? How much do you pay for him?
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Speaker 1: And apparently they peaked at thousands of dollars in the
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Speaker 1: eighties and then finally settled down and now they're like
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Speaker 1: a grand still, which is really that's an expensive quilt.
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Speaker 1: After we took advantage of them. It sounds like for
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Speaker 1: many years. Yeah, by saying I'll take this handmade thing
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Speaker 1: for seven dollars off your hands. There you go, Amish.
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Speaker 1: But they they I'm surprised that they did allow it
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Speaker 1: to get as high as it did because they don't
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Speaker 1: really care much for cash. They don't use credit. Most
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Speaker 1: of their wealth or I guess net worth comes from
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Speaker 1: their real estate holdings. Yeah. That they own a lot
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Speaker 1: of Lancaster pennsylvani Lancaster County. Yeah, and everywhere they go
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Speaker 1: they buy a lot of land. Um that's sixteen year
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Speaker 1: old that just became in doctor nating in the church
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Speaker 1: One of the things that um he or she will
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Speaker 1: be getting into about now is the courtship of a
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Speaker 1: husband or wife. Right, so when you're about sixteen, Um,
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Speaker 1: you start to drink lemonade on the porch, fitz or sweetie,
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Speaker 1: Um you'll you'll drive her to in the buggy or
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Speaker 1: walk with her to the singing service. Yeah, and singing
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Speaker 1: is actually um their courtship ritual and wedding ceremonies are
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Speaker 1: really detailed. I didn't realize this. It's pretty cool. You
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Speaker 1: want to go over it. Well, yeah, well the singing
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Speaker 1: thing is not done anything to do with that. That's
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Speaker 1: just what young single Amish kids do for fun, right right,
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Speaker 1: But I mean it's kind of a range so that
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Speaker 1: this is part of the courtship process. So you can
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Speaker 1: spend some time with somebody else that you're you know,
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Speaker 1: looking to wed. That's what they say. Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 1: And they don't always sing um religious songs either, because
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Speaker 1: there's not anything else they can do. They can't dance,
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Speaker 1: can't play musical instruments. It's like John Lithgow lives there.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. Haven't you ever
19:08
Speaker 1: seen Footloose? Oh? Sure, I thought you were talking about
19:12
Speaker 1: Dexter or Third Rock from the Sun or something. He's
19:14
Speaker 1: on Dexter. Yeah, he played a serial killer in the
19:17
Speaker 1: last season. I haven't gotten there yet. Creepy. Yeah, he's
19:20
Speaker 1: He's good a creepy You else is creeping out and
19:22
Speaker 1: thinking of it. There's a little often topic, but Amish
19:25
Speaker 1: dolls do not have faces. Why because it goes with
19:30
Speaker 1: the whole vanity thing, and it was like a long
19:33
Speaker 1: standing tradition that they just kind of held onto, like
19:35
Speaker 1: they don't want their photograph taken. They don't want their
19:37
Speaker 1: faces displayed as a graven image, so their baby dolls
19:41
Speaker 1: have no faces. It's cool, it's creepy as hell, dude.
19:44
Speaker 1: Have you seen the video of the little baby that
19:47
Speaker 1: was born with no eyes on Good Morning America? Was
19:51
Speaker 1: she Amish? No? No? This that was a total sidebar
19:55
Speaker 1: then yeah, okay. And also you were saying about the
19:58
Speaker 1: dolls being faceless. Apparently with the quilts, there was a
20:02
Speaker 1: myth that grew up that every Amish quilt has a
20:06
Speaker 1: purposeful flaw so that they don't create anything perfect. Yeah,
20:10
Speaker 1: not true, but they said there are likely flaws because
20:14
Speaker 1: anything handmade is going to have a cross or a
20:17
Speaker 1: off stitch, but it's not like they do it on
20:20
Speaker 1: purpose or anything that's silly. So a couple of Amish
20:24
Speaker 1: teens are courting, Yeah, they're courting back to the court.
20:26
Speaker 1: That's about sixteen. Usually they're twenty or older when they
20:30
Speaker 1: finally get married to the court for years. Well, there's
20:33
Speaker 1: actually studies that I've read that um show that the
20:36
Speaker 1: longer the courtship, the more lasting the marriage. Uh, just
20:40
Speaker 1: in general, not just yeah, not just among Amish, but
20:43
Speaker 1: with any humans. That makes sense. Sure, you see these
20:46
Speaker 1: people get married after these celebrities get married after a
20:48
Speaker 1: few months of being on set together, and then you
20:51
Speaker 1: get on the next movie and they're like, oh, I
20:52
Speaker 1: think I love my New Coast Now. Yeah, those people
20:55
Speaker 1: are crazy. They're like the opposite of the Amish, complete
20:58
Speaker 1: opposite of the Amish. So they're courting, Josh. They are
21:01
Speaker 1: allowed to spend time together, they encouraged to spend private
21:04
Speaker 1: time together, but it would be unseemly if they did
21:07
Speaker 1: this um behind closed doors, so they keep it, like
21:12
Speaker 1: you said, on the front porch. Uh. They do have
21:15
Speaker 1: chaperone's right, Yeah, but a good chaperone like knows to
21:18
Speaker 1: not pay too much attention they're just kind of there
21:21
Speaker 1: to let everybody else know we're not letting these two
21:23
Speaker 1: go back on run spring. It's so weird. It seems
21:26
Speaker 1: they're so on one end, very rigid with the with
21:30
Speaker 1: the ordinaning, but on the other end they're very permissive,
21:33
Speaker 1: you know. They just the fact that they allow rum
21:35
Speaker 1: springing to me is amazing. It's such a healthy, brave custom. Yeah,
21:40
Speaker 1: because you're saying, like, go go figure out if you
21:42
Speaker 1: really want to do, if you like it, come back,
21:44
Speaker 1: and I mean you're it's poses such a huge risk
21:46
Speaker 1: that like these people are gonna be like, hell, yes,
21:48
Speaker 1: I like electricity and I really love crystal meth. Yeah.
21:52
Speaker 1: You would think it these days that very few Amish
21:55
Speaker 1: kids would come back. Yeah, but they do. And when
21:58
Speaker 1: they do their courting courting again now they're getting married. Yes,
22:02
Speaker 1: what do you say about about twenty And actually it
22:05
Speaker 1: happens at the same time for everybody, right fall November, Yeah, November,
22:10
Speaker 1: um is the favorite month. Winter hasn't begun yet, um,
22:16
Speaker 1: but it's after the fall harvest, right yeah, and Lancaster County,
22:19
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is definitely cold. Um. So what happens is um,
22:23
Speaker 1: the two weeks after the Fall Communion one of two. Remember, um,
22:29
Speaker 1: so what happens, Chuck, is that about the time if
22:31
Speaker 1: you want a jockey yourself to get married in the
22:34
Speaker 1: fall or the winner, Um, you give your girl a present,
22:39
Speaker 1: a practical gift, no jewelry, like a butter turn something
22:42
Speaker 1: like that, or um, something for really good quilting or whatever. Um.
22:47
Speaker 1: And you you give her this present and she takes
22:50
Speaker 1: it to mean like, Okay, well you he wants to
22:52
Speaker 1: marry me. He just gave me a butter churn. How
22:55
Speaker 1: else can you read that? Um? And she goes back
22:58
Speaker 1: and tells her family and they're like or nay, but
23:01
Speaker 1: they're probably like I you know. Um. And but they
23:04
Speaker 1: keep it a secret though they do among the family
23:06
Speaker 1: until two weeks after the Fall Community one of two.
23:11
Speaker 1: In the year, um, a list of all the kids
23:15
Speaker 1: who are gonna get married, for all the girls. Actually
23:18
Speaker 1: that which I thought was kind of cool. They do
23:19
Speaker 1: it by girl, Yeah, the woman. That's very woman centric
23:22
Speaker 1: in the marriage weddings or weddings, I should say, yes. Um.
23:28
Speaker 1: So there's a list that's published, and by published we
23:30
Speaker 1: mean that the deacon reads the names off and that's
23:34
Speaker 1: all the kids who are gonna get married that year, right, Yeah,
23:38
Speaker 1: none of them are there. Well, that would be the
23:40
Speaker 1: dead giveaway to me, because everybody's at church. Yeah, which
23:44
Speaker 1: is they don't have a church. Actually we left that
23:48
Speaker 1: part out. Yeah. They do the church services in the homes.
23:52
Speaker 1: Uh so, and it rotates from Sunday to Sunday. Yeah,
23:55
Speaker 1: so every home it needs to be capable of hosting
23:57
Speaker 1: church service. And in these church services there in pretting
24:00
Speaker 1: the Bible. Literally we left that part out too. We
24:02
Speaker 1: didn't leave any hanging out. We're just we're jumping around. Okay,
24:05
Speaker 1: this is this is amage country. You can do whatever
24:06
Speaker 1: you want because we know what electricity means. Right. Um.
24:11
Speaker 1: So yes, they are published, they are announced. Um they
24:14
Speaker 1: are not there because they're enjoying time with their family
24:16
Speaker 1: at a private meal, private meal together and this is
24:19
Speaker 1: where it all kicks off. This is where it all
24:21
Speaker 1: gets sexy. Well, I don't know about that. So the
24:24
Speaker 1: wedding actually takes place in the home to um bride's home,
24:29
Speaker 1: which is where the honeymoon take I'm sorry the they
24:31
Speaker 1: live in the bride's home afterward. Yeah for a good
24:34
Speaker 1: uh I think six months a year. Yeah, and the
24:37
Speaker 1: honeymoon takes place. They just go to visit other relatives. Yeah,
24:41
Speaker 1: pretty pretty hot and heavy. I think, yeah, this is
24:43
Speaker 1: this is crazy when when they actually do have the
24:45
Speaker 1: wedding ceremony, and let me also just let me rephrase
24:49
Speaker 1: that this is crazy. I don't think what the amage
24:51
Speaker 1: too is crazy. It's interesting, yeah, very interesting. Um, the
24:54
Speaker 1: the for the wedding ceremony, it lasts several hours, which
24:58
Speaker 1: I would go absolutely craz easy. I can barely make
25:01
Speaker 1: it through a full hour long Catholic Mass type wedding. Yeah,
25:06
Speaker 1: they're they're uncomfortable. Can you imagine a few hours. Yeah,
25:08
Speaker 1: my wedding ceremony would lasted about four and a half minutes.
25:12
Speaker 1: Didn't was the preacher like bingo bango, you guys are
25:16
Speaker 1: well the preacher was my father in law. So okay,
25:19
Speaker 1: he'd put a scotch down and said, by the power
25:21
Speaker 1: of the Internet, you were a man and wife. Nice.
25:25
Speaker 1: Um yeah, okay, Well multiply that by several hours. Uh,
25:30
Speaker 1: and then it's done and everybody starts feasting. Um. And
25:33
Speaker 1: then the first night, yes, Chuck is spent at the
25:36
Speaker 1: bride's parents house. So nothing else needs to be said
25:41
Speaker 1: about that. No, but it's since we've been on rum springet.
25:45
Speaker 1: That means that there's probably plenty of Amish kids, Amish
25:49
Speaker 1: married couples who weren't virgins at marriage. Oh can they
25:54
Speaker 1: do the sex when they are on rum I have
25:56
Speaker 1: the impression that you can do anything you want on
25:58
Speaker 1: rum Spring, including still meth well, and it doesn't necessarily
26:02
Speaker 1: indicate that the Amish are anti intercourse or anything. No.
26:06
Speaker 1: I mean I think if you're married and it's a
26:08
Speaker 1: blessed union from God, then feel free, sure in a
26:12
Speaker 1: one room house with your laws in the next pet Yeah,
26:15
Speaker 1: feel free. Yeah. And then like you said, check the
26:19
Speaker 1: honeymoon is on weekends because of course during the week
26:22
Speaker 1: you're working like nothing happened, um, And but on weekends
26:25
Speaker 1: you go around and visit family and stay with him
26:28
Speaker 1: for the weekend. Yeah, which is pretty cool. Probably more
26:31
Speaker 1: butter turns. And then you're you're set up. After six months,
26:36
Speaker 1: you're living with the h the bride's parents. And then
26:39
Speaker 1: after six months or a year, one of the two,
26:41
Speaker 1: it's time to get your own place. And remember the Amish,
26:45
Speaker 1: This Amish guy who's like twenty or twenty one hasn't
26:48
Speaker 1: spent his whole life, you know, saving up for this. Yeah,
26:51
Speaker 1: he didn't have a pot to uh too, which is interesting.
26:58
Speaker 1: You say that we'll get to that and say we'll
26:59
Speaker 1: get the um. No, but there is a community pot
27:02
Speaker 1: which everyone's expected to throw into. And from this community
27:05
Speaker 1: pot and from any familial help, um, the kids get
27:09
Speaker 1: their own farm. They buy the farm. Yeah, we'll raise
27:12
Speaker 1: We'll raise you a barn. Nice lovely young couple. Yeah.
27:15
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Witness? You know, it's on my
27:18
Speaker 1: my tebow right now. I have never seen it though,
27:21
Speaker 1: good movie, and it's been sitting there for weeks. When
27:24
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford's out of Veneer finally cracks and he comes
27:27
Speaker 1: to see the value of the Amish way of life.
27:29
Speaker 1: How misunderstood. They are beautiful. Um. But there's a barn
27:33
Speaker 1: raising in there, and it's you know, everybody gets together.
27:36
Speaker 1: They build the walls and then push them up and
27:38
Speaker 1: you know everybody's pitching. It's a very um communal affair. Well,
27:42
Speaker 1: you have to. That's one of the tenants of being
27:44
Speaker 1: Amish is you have to lend a hand. So definitely,
27:47
Speaker 1: unless it's in a combat situation. Right, So, if your neighbor,
27:50
Speaker 1: if you're Amish neighbor, if you see him coming over
27:53
Speaker 1: with a hammer in in his hand. You don't like
27:56
Speaker 1: pull the blind shut and lock the door like I would. Off, No, no, no,
28:00
Speaker 1: you gotta go help the guy. Yeah, it's all about
28:02
Speaker 1: the community. So the kids are all set up, they
28:05
Speaker 1: have their house. Sure, they raise the barn. Let's look
28:07
Speaker 1: around inside. We'll go out into the barn in a minute. Okay,
28:11
Speaker 1: but we're inside right, and it looks pretty much like
28:13
Speaker 1: the eighteenth century. Yeah, it's not fancy. There's not a
28:16
Speaker 1: lot of obviously, there's no gadgets or anything like that.
28:19
Speaker 1: Very plain handmade furniture. Um, you know what you might
28:23
Speaker 1: find the josh, you might find a modern stove if
28:27
Speaker 1: it burns would Yeah, there's are it seems like there's
28:30
Speaker 1: a lot of contradictions here there and amously like why
28:33
Speaker 1: would you have a modern appliance? The point is that
28:36
Speaker 1: you'd have a modern appliance that burns would or can
28:39
Speaker 1: run on gas because remember you can use gas as
28:41
Speaker 1: long as you're not connected to the grid. They look um,
28:46
Speaker 1: But it makes sense because it's cheaper. It's gonna use
28:50
Speaker 1: less um less source energy. Yeah, it's gonna require less input.
28:56
Speaker 1: I mean, and I mean, think about it. If you
28:58
Speaker 1: get like an antique or like a reproduction old wood
29:02
Speaker 1: burning stove. That thing's gonna cost you a mint, and
29:05
Speaker 1: it's actually kind of vain that you would do. So, yeah,
29:08
Speaker 1: you might find something that makes life easier that doesn't
29:12
Speaker 1: radically undermine the community structure, and you're not being vain
29:17
Speaker 1: about if if a technology makes it through those that
29:23
Speaker 1: that that criteria, then it might be adopted. Yeah, and
29:26
Speaker 1: then if it passes the ordining. And one of the
29:28
Speaker 1: examples in the article I thought was good is, for instance,
29:30
Speaker 1: the use of nylon rope instead of hemp rope. If
29:34
Speaker 1: it can accomplish what you need to get done and
29:36
Speaker 1: doesn't disrupt or bring attention to to itself, then they
29:41
Speaker 1: may accept this new technology as long as you can
29:44
Speaker 1: still have that community communion twice a year. Right and
29:48
Speaker 1: watch the feed. Right, let's go out into the dairy barn. Chuck.
29:51
Speaker 1: Our socks are about to be blown off, dude, right
29:54
Speaker 1: you know why? Yeah, because dude, there is not the
29:56
Speaker 1: little Amish man sitting on a stool with a pale
29:58
Speaker 1: milking a cow. No, they may do that for their
30:01
Speaker 1: own milk, but they have modern equipment, refrigerated tanks running
30:07
Speaker 1: on electricity milking machines. Yeah. And the reason why is
30:10
Speaker 1: because the Amish aren't dumb. They know that they are
30:13
Speaker 1: living in twenty one century America. They also realized there
30:16
Speaker 1: is such thing as the f d A and if
30:19
Speaker 1: they're trying to sell their milk, then yeah, they have
30:22
Speaker 1: to meet those those basic standards in in in century America.
30:25
Speaker 1: These basic standards include you know, electricity powered cooling tanks
30:30
Speaker 1: and milk pumping and stuff like that. I mean, you're
30:32
Speaker 1: running an actual dairy farm and you have to kind
30:36
Speaker 1: of meet those standards. So yeah, but there is this
30:38
Speaker 1: place is crazy. It's humming. Yeah, move but of course
30:41
Speaker 1: it's run by the generator still because they're still off
30:44
Speaker 1: the grid. Um. I found it interesting that they I'm
30:48
Speaker 1: sure it hasn't been a picnic or easy, but they
30:50
Speaker 1: seem to have worked with the US government over the
30:54
Speaker 1: years and kind of working some of these things out,
30:56
Speaker 1: like school, Yeah, like compulsory education. They they let them
31:00
Speaker 1: go do their own school to think till the eighth
31:02
Speaker 1: grade is when they're required to go. And they kind
31:05
Speaker 1: of just said, all right, you know, if you're going
31:06
Speaker 1: to school your kids that way, that's fine. Do taxes
31:09
Speaker 1: stay here? They do not have to pay Social Security tax. No,
31:12
Speaker 1: and they don't borrow. No. Um, they do pay tax though, yeah,
31:16
Speaker 1: they do, like they pay property taxes and stuff, just
31:19
Speaker 1: not social Security tax because they don't draw Social Security
31:22
Speaker 1: or Medicare or which is kind of because you and
31:26
Speaker 1: I are never going to see a penny of Social
31:28
Speaker 1: Security and we still pay it. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah,
31:30
Speaker 1: maybe you should grow a beard with no mustache. Okay,
31:34
Speaker 1: we should both do that. Yeah, it looks kind of goofy.
31:36
Speaker 1: I think it looks cool. You really like see every coop? Yeah,
31:41
Speaker 1: it's such a look though, you know it's you. It's
31:43
Speaker 1: really specific. Look. It definitely is. Um, chuck. We said
31:47
Speaker 1: that they don't borrow, but they do engage in trade. Um.
31:51
Speaker 1: They somebody's got to buy that milk, right, Um. So
31:54
Speaker 1: what they do is they deal with middlemen as often
31:58
Speaker 1: as possible, and generally these are Mennonites, because the Mennonites
32:01
Speaker 1: are very very similar to the Amish right, but the
32:05
Speaker 1: Mennonites have no rules against socializing with the outside world.
32:08
Speaker 1: So if you have the Amish, you stick to themselves,
32:11
Speaker 1: socialize with as few people as possible. You get a
32:14
Speaker 1: couple of good men and knights who have some stores
32:16
Speaker 1: or whatever, um that that will sell your stuff, and
32:19
Speaker 1: they turn around and sell it to everybody else. It
32:21
Speaker 1: works out great, it definitely does. They They say, hey,
32:24
Speaker 1: we have we need five utility sheds this month, um,
32:28
Speaker 1: go build them. They build them. They didn't go and
32:30
Speaker 1: pick them up from them, sell them to the people,
32:32
Speaker 1: deliver them cash. They do use the lumber we should
32:35
Speaker 1: point out. They obviously don't make their own paint and
32:38
Speaker 1: shingles and things like that and mill their own wood,
32:41
Speaker 1: although someone might mill would but they do order to
32:43
Speaker 1: get orders from lumber yards and they'll bring the stuff
32:46
Speaker 1: out to them, except payment on the spot, just to
32:48
Speaker 1: make it easy cash or barter. Obviously, they still don't,
32:52
Speaker 1: you know, throw the Amex black down. No, I mean,
32:55
Speaker 1: if they don't have cashley just don't do it. Yeah.
32:58
Speaker 1: But yeah, if they can barter, I think that's probab
33:00
Speaker 1: be preferable. Right, And they go to other mom and
33:01
Speaker 1: pop stores here and there. But you you probably won't
33:04
Speaker 1: find any Walmart in Lancaster County with a lot of
33:08
Speaker 1: buggies in the parking lot. No, it's a little too Gerish,
33:10
Speaker 1: a little too Gerish. And actually they said that the
33:14
Speaker 1: tourism that's surrounded around the Amish way of life UM
33:21
Speaker 1: has people look for stores with buggies out front or whatever,
33:25
Speaker 1: and then they come there like just to go see
33:27
Speaker 1: the Amish. Right, But if they were, if they're encountering
33:31
Speaker 1: a smart mom and pop store owner, they probably just
33:34
Speaker 1: have a couple of buggies that are out front all
33:36
Speaker 1: the time, and the Amish aren't anywhere around. But it
33:38
Speaker 1: still draws the tourists and the Amish are really off
33:41
Speaker 1: the beaten path on some back road. The store that
33:43
Speaker 1: doesn't even have a sign that they just heard of
33:46
Speaker 1: by word of mouth because this person opened just to
33:49
Speaker 1: deal with the Amish. Well, they said, that's a good
33:51
Speaker 1: way to get some pretty steady business. Open up a
33:54
Speaker 1: mom and make your own sign. Don't get a neon
33:57
Speaker 1: sign in the window they don't like. Just be smart.
33:59
Speaker 1: And we're talking about the Ordon right ord, and how
34:04
Speaker 1: that um that that serves as the keystone the foundation
34:10
Speaker 1: of all Amish life, but it's also something can be
34:15
Speaker 1: passed through it. It's a prism that that new technologies
34:18
Speaker 1: passed through, right, and then they agree on whether it
34:21
Speaker 1: harms them or not, and if it doesn't, they adopt it.
34:23
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I found interesting was
34:25
Speaker 1: that um out of the necessity for travel, you know,
34:28
Speaker 1: with more and more Amish moving out to like Utah, um,
34:32
Speaker 1: you can't just go through the horse and buggy. So
34:34
Speaker 1: what they've determined is that if you don't own or
34:37
Speaker 1: operate mechanical vehicle, you can still travel in it, which
34:42
Speaker 1: means they can fly on an airplane because they don't
34:45
Speaker 1: own it and they're not operating it. And I think
34:48
Speaker 1: that's cool how it's still I think that's probably how
34:50
Speaker 1: they've managed to survive. And actually, in the last fifty
34:52
Speaker 1: years their number is tripled. They're about a hundred thousand
34:56
Speaker 1: Amish living in the US, so they're yeah, and they're thriving,
34:59
Speaker 1: I think because they figured out how to adapt and
35:02
Speaker 1: evolve as little as possible, but they're still adapting and evolving.
35:07
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty cool personally. It means they're not,
35:10
Speaker 1: as the article says, stuck in time and completely closed
35:13
Speaker 1: off to everything. They just only adopt something if it
35:17
Speaker 1: really helps their way of life without causing a negative
35:20
Speaker 1: impact on their life. It seems pretty open minded to me.
35:24
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, a lot of the Amish stuff though,
35:25
Speaker 1: made me not want to run off and be Amish.
35:29
Speaker 1: But they kind of have it going on. You know,
35:30
Speaker 1: they've got the right idea about so many things you
35:32
Speaker 1: don't have to be Amish to, you know, live a
35:35
Speaker 1: simpler life stuff. And you know, you can join the Amish.
35:39
Speaker 1: I read that you can. Um, it is possible to
35:42
Speaker 1: be accepted even though you were not born and raised Amish.
35:45
Speaker 1: But it really doesn't happen very often at all because, ay,
35:49
Speaker 1: they're not looking to recruit, you know, they don't proselytize,
35:53
Speaker 1: go door to door like you know some Christians do. UM,
35:57
Speaker 1: So chances are you're not gonna just hear about it
35:59
Speaker 1: and want to do it. Second of all, you need
36:00
Speaker 1: to speak the language Low German low German. So if
36:04
Speaker 1: you speak low German, you might have a good chance.
36:06
Speaker 1: And thirdly, it's just not very often that someone would
36:08
Speaker 1: want to grow up in the secular world and just
36:11
Speaker 1: get rid of all that unless they joined some hippie
36:13
Speaker 1: commune and or unless they're Harrison Ford, unless they're Did
36:18
Speaker 1: he join? Is that what happened? Yeah? I think in
36:20
Speaker 1: the end, if I remember correct, then he goes back
36:23
Speaker 1: or something like that. I think that's it right, Chuck.
36:27
Speaker 1: It's like Jerry's looking at It's like, yeah, it's been
36:29
Speaker 1: like seventy minutes, has it? Has it been that long?
36:33
Speaker 1: Because I had one other thing about the funeral. Well,
36:36
Speaker 1: the funeral is much like you would think. It's a
36:38
Speaker 1: plain wooden box. And um, they do utilize the services
36:42
Speaker 1: of an embalmer, but there are no flowers. There's no singing.
36:46
Speaker 1: Even at the funeral, they actually uh quote lines from
36:50
Speaker 1: hymns they speak them only, and but they do not
36:56
Speaker 1: they wear white at funerals usually, and they do not
37:00
Speaker 1: raise the dead, just respect. So even in death, there's
37:03
Speaker 1: not like adulation heaped on anyone. It's all very much
37:07
Speaker 1: just like Daniel Proctor did a very fine thing in
37:12
Speaker 1: his life, and now he is dead. He could butter
37:16
Speaker 1: and he did. Now they'd be uh, they'd be too
37:19
Speaker 1: much idolizing. Well, let me say this real quick to Chuck.
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Speaker 1: One of the coolest photos I've ever seen in my
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Speaker 1: entire life was taken at a funeral of a m
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Speaker 1: a person whose house was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina. And
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Speaker 1: this is like a couple of years after and as
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Speaker 1: Amish couple who I guess had made friends with the
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Speaker 1: person was attending the funeral among all the English and
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Speaker 1: everybody else is just dressed normally. And there's this a
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Speaker 1: very solemn, steadfast Amish couple of youngest Amish couple in
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Speaker 1: their thirties. I would say, just at this guy's funeral,
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Speaker 1: it was really awesome. It's cool. We should also point
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Speaker 1: out they don't shun medicine. They're not Christian scientists. They
37:56
Speaker 1: lead that up to the individual, so like they well,
37:59
Speaker 1: if someone has an act indent, they will actually get
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Speaker 1: into an ambulance and go to the hospital. And speaking
38:03
Speaker 1: of accidents, to prevent those, they have come to accept
38:07
Speaker 1: putting flashers and orange hazard triangles on their buggies because
38:12
Speaker 1: it's just common sense and the Amish have that in aces. Yeah,
38:16
Speaker 1: this is just a small bit though, Like this is
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Speaker 1: the Lancaster County Amish, or like ten percent of the Amish,
38:22
Speaker 1: and this is really who we've been talking about. Yeah,
38:24
Speaker 1: there are other sex or other it's all local. The
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Speaker 1: ordung Um ordnung Uh is decentralized. I mean that is
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Speaker 1: the central authority, but it's all interpreted on the local level.
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Speaker 1: So what one Amish group believes is not necessarily the
38:38
Speaker 1: exact same as the other. So that was the twist
38:41
Speaker 1: at the end that Chuck just gave. We were talking
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Speaker 1: about the Lancaster County Amish the whole time, right memento
38:48
Speaker 1: or I thought you're gonna say in Night sham Lanxia
38:50
Speaker 1: that stupid movie the Village. I thought that twist is
38:54
Speaker 1: pretty cool, but I don't know if the whole movie
38:56
Speaker 1: was worth working up to it. That was awful, So Chuck,
39:00
Speaker 1: that's it, okay, all right? Oh yeah, if you want
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Speaker 1: to know more about the Amish, handy search bar, et cetera. Chuck,
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Speaker 1: it's time for listening. Man. We must be on on
39:10
Speaker 1: the I'm tired of Jerry Starr and be like this.
39:12
Speaker 1: It's making me nervous. I'm gonna call this email. My
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Speaker 1: father in law, Kurt Josh and Chuck conducted a primitive
39:20
Speaker 1: tribe contact in the early eighties, so this is about
39:23
Speaker 1: the unknown people. His stories are really wild. This is
39:27
Speaker 1: an oblivion portion of Amazon rainforest anyway, that got attacked
39:30
Speaker 1: by Yukwa Euqui natives who saw past the banana and
39:35
Speaker 1: other offerings. So I guess they offered banana and they
39:38
Speaker 1: were like, not so much. We've got tons of that, right,
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Speaker 1: his translator took a six ft arrow in the back
39:44
Speaker 1: and I think that's called a spirit. Well that's what
39:46
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, And you would think, so buddy
39:48
Speaker 1: could listen to this. They had two man bows. One
39:51
Speaker 1: guy would hold the bow and the other guy would
39:52
Speaker 1: pull back the line. So it was, in fact the
39:55
Speaker 1: six foot arrow. Kurt still has one of the other
39:58
Speaker 1: arrows retreat from the site. In fact, they have all
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Speaker 1: kinds of pictures in the photo album, including pictures of
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Speaker 1: my wife who was four and five in the buff
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Speaker 1: because everyone was in the buff, the tribes people were.
40:09
Speaker 1: They lived in a little hut. Wait, this guy married
40:11
Speaker 1: a tribes person. No, no, no, he was just doing
40:13
Speaker 1: work there. Um. They lived off in the land in
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Speaker 1: a little hut and worked to build an airstrip to
40:20
Speaker 1: fly supplies for an outpost. Very unomish. My mother in
40:24
Speaker 1: law can prepare a wild chicken, very Amishka and she
40:28
Speaker 1: incurred have gone to special kind of preparatory boot camp.
40:31
Speaker 1: And he is one of my heroes. And so that
40:33
Speaker 1: is from Ryan and Lynchburg and his wife Crystal wrote
40:36
Speaker 1: me shortly thereafter to set the record straight on some
40:39
Speaker 1: of Ryan's facts. But I'm not gonna read Crystals because
40:43
Speaker 1: Ryan's is much more interesting. So he made up the
40:45
Speaker 1: two mambo. No, he She just said it sounds way
40:47
Speaker 1: more Indiana Jones than it really was, and it was
40:50
Speaker 1: really like this. But we'll just we'll just keep the
40:53
Speaker 1: fanciful version alive. Thank you, Ryan and Crystal. Yeah, and
40:57
Speaker 1: here's to your four year long courtship, which we can
41:00
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41:04
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41:07
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41:09
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