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Sean O'Connell Show w/Bill Riley - Full POD 6-5-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: You got him fucking appear now going on her Now.
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Speaker 1: Here he goes to the outside, grittin Cobby yet the
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Speaker 4: Forty there he goes.
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Speaker 5: Twenty ten five.
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Speaker 6: Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, print tubby seventy eight.
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Speaker 1: Girls, Gipson swings and a fly Bnady frank.
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Speaker 6: Fw it's got me round unbelievable.
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Speaker 5: All M forgets it. I don't believe what I m.
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Speaker 7: I don't believe what I touch.
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Speaker 8: Shock Russell, looking down at half fourth, stuck him unto three.
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Speaker 8: So Stucktor sends the Utah jassity in the finals.
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Speaker 1: Robbie Russell now with a chance to send RSL home
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Speaker 1: as Cup champions.
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Speaker 8: Saunder's on his line. Russell approaches, I love you other
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Speaker 8: two thousand time scott champions. Got zampion chair, you're some
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Speaker 8: lake saye.
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Speaker 2: This is a special edition of the Sean O'Connell Show,
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Speaker 2: hosted by Bill Riley on Utah's number one sports talk
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Speaker 2: and your Home of the Utes ESPN seven hundred and
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Speaker 2: ninety two one a FM.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 2: Here's three time Utah sports broadcaster Rubbed the Year and
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Speaker 2: Voice of the Utes, Bill Riley.
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Speaker 9: Hey, there Good morning, and welcome in to the Shaan
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Speaker 9: O'Connell Show. Bill Riley's sitting in the air chair today
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Speaker 9: for OC who is out on assignment.
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Speaker 5: Happy Friday to you.
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Speaker 9: So good to be back in these Broadway media studios
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Speaker 9: where I spent so many years. Great to be with
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Speaker 9: you on a Friday today. And we'll have fuff over
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Speaker 9: the next three hours or so as we head into
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Speaker 9: the weekend. What a sport I mean, we don't have
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Speaker 9: a lot going on here in the state of Utah
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Speaker 9: right now, but we have so much on the sports
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Speaker 9: landscape right now.
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Speaker 5: We've got the World Cup beginning in a week.
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Speaker 9: One week from today, the United States men's national team
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Speaker 9: kicks off the World Cup its Sofi Stadium against Paraguay.
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Speaker 9: They'll have their final tune up tomorrow in Chicago against
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Speaker 9: Zigemmins and that game will be heard right here on
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Speaker 9: ESPN seven hundred and twelve thirty Mountain Time pregame at
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Speaker 9: noon tomorrow for the United States and Germany from Soldier
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Speaker 9: Field on the banks of Lake Michigan in Chicago.
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Speaker 5: So that's going on right now.
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Speaker 9: Game two of the NBA Finals is tonight in San
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Speaker 9: Antonio between the Spurs and the Knickerbockers. We'll talk about
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Speaker 9: that on the program today. We'll also talk about the
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Speaker 9: World Cup of the program today with a guy that's
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Speaker 9: gonna be calling tomorrow's matchup in Chicago. He'll be part
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Speaker 9: of the World Cup coverage as well this year for
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Speaker 9: Univision in Telemundo.
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Speaker 5: That is Marcel about Boa. He'll join us coming up
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Speaker 5: in a bit.
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Speaker 9: But we got game two Tonight's right here as soon
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Speaker 9: as Spence wraps up later today six thirty or so
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Speaker 9: Mountain time from San Antonio.
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Speaker 5: Game two, the Knickerbockers and the Spurs.
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Speaker 9: We'll talk a bit about that and the NBA Draft
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Speaker 9: coming up a little bit later on with my good
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Speaker 9: friend I just I know he was on earlier this
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Speaker 9: week with Sean, but when I'm on the air, it
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Speaker 9: feels like kind of a warm blanket wrapped up around
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Speaker 9: me when I have my good friend of many many years,
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Speaker 9: Gordon Chiaza, come on. So Gordy will join us today
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Speaker 9: and we'll preview the Knicks and the Spurs. And I'll
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Speaker 9: tell you what I said this the other day when
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Speaker 9: I was on with Spence. I never in my life
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Speaker 9: thought I would say that I have never in my life.
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Speaker 9: I don't know that I've ever rooted for the New
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Speaker 9: York Knicks, but I find myself wildly attracted to this
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Speaker 9: Knicks basketball team. There is something very likable about this
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Speaker 9: New York team. I've always been kind of an anti
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Speaker 9: New York guy. I just have the big city. I've
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Speaker 9: just never I've never liked the Giants or the Jets.
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Speaker 9: I've hated the Yankees all my life because they broke
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Speaker 9: my heart as a child when they took the Royals
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Speaker 9: down in the playoffs in the late seventies and early eighties.
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Speaker 9: Never just I've never had a rooting interest in a
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Speaker 9: New York team. But as I told Spence the other
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Speaker 9: day when I was on a show with him, I'm
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Speaker 9: rooting for Thencks. There is something very likable about this
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Speaker 9: New York Knicks team. So we'll talk about that with
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Speaker 9: Gordon Chiaza when he joins us. Coming up in just
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Speaker 9: a bit on the program, of course, we're gonna talk
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Speaker 9: some college football, University of Utah and Utah football and
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Speaker 9: big picture college football as well. As we sit ninety
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Speaker 9: days can you believe it? Or inside of one hundred,
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Speaker 9: We're ninety days until kickoff thirteen weeks from yesterday were
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Speaker 9: inside of thirteen weeks now to go until kickoff. The
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Speaker 9: utes of the Idaho Vandals will kick it off at
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Speaker 9: seven o'clock on September the third at Rice Echel Stadium.
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Speaker 5: I will have the call with you.
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Speaker 9: Stevenson Sylvester will be with me on that broadcast, and
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Speaker 9: Sly will join us a little bit later onto the
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Speaker 9: program today to talk about some off season questions about
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Speaker 9: Utah football. And I've got a couple for you guys
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Speaker 9: today it's a Friday. I want to have some fun
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Speaker 9: with you. I don't get to talk to you guys
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Speaker 9: every day like I used to. I miss you sometimes,
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Speaker 9: and so I want to kind of get back with
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Speaker 9: you guys today. And for the first hour or so
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Speaker 9: of the show today, I just want to kind of
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Speaker 9: open it up to you guys and talk about whatever
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Speaker 9: may be on your mind. Maybe it's the college football
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Speaker 9: playoff picture, and we're gonna get into that because I've
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Speaker 9: got some thoughts on this. I've talked about it on
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Speaker 9: my podcast. If you don't listen to it, if you
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Speaker 9: haven't be added it to your podcast playlist, it's called
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Speaker 9: The Crimson Corner. You can find it. He usually drops
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Speaker 9: every week Wednesday or so. I do it from my
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Speaker 9: broadcast studio up at the University of Utah, and I
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Speaker 9: usually talk a lot about Utah football, Utah basketball, whatever's
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Speaker 9: going on in the Big twelve and around and impacting
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Speaker 9: the University of Utah. So if you would do me
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Speaker 9: My goal is to begin to do it moving forward,
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Speaker 9: just been for the last we started it last fall.
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Speaker 9: You know, you want to walk before you run, you
6:35
Speaker 9: want to crawl before you walk, and I think we've
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Speaker 9: had We're coming up on our one year anniversary that
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Speaker 9: will be in August, and it's been a it's been fun.
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Speaker 5: I love doing it.
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Speaker 9: It gives me a chance on a regular basis to
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Speaker 9: behind me behind the mic like I am right now,
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Speaker 9: which I did for thirty plus years of my radio career.
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Speaker 5: But it's it's a lot of fun to do. So
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Speaker 9: interactive with you guys at the first hour of the show.
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Speaker 9: Anything's wide open. It's a free for all Friday here
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Speaker 9: on the Shan O'Connell Show. Bill Riley sitting in for
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Speaker 9: Shan O'Connell today. So anything that's on your mind. It
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Speaker 9: could be Utah football. It could be Big twelve football.
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Speaker 9: It could be BYU football. It could be college football playoff.
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Speaker 9: It could be Jazz basketball. It could be the draft
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Speaker 9: coming up. It could be the NBA playoffs. Nay, by
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Speaker 9: the way, the NHL Stanley Cup playoffs have been unbelievable.
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Speaker 5: Game two last night, I mean.
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Speaker 9: Carolina needed that win in the worst way that you
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Speaker 9: don't want to It doesn't matter what league you're in,
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Speaker 9: where you're at, whatever the play you don't ever want
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Speaker 9: to go down two to zho in a playoff, a
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Speaker 9: best of seven playoff series. And hey, Carolina loss last night.
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Speaker 9: They'd have been down two oh and it looked for
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Speaker 9: a minute like they might go down and but they rallied.
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Speaker 5: The third period.
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Speaker 9: Was insane Vegas because they're like zombies. They're like the
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Speaker 9: White Walkers in Game of Thrones. You cannot kill the
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Speaker 9: Vegas Golden Knights without some of that dragon glass and
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Speaker 9: stab it right in their eye socket. They didn't go
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Speaker 9: quietly last night, but Carolina found a way to win
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Speaker 9: that thing in overtime. And there is nothing, I repeat,
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Speaker 9: nothing better than game game you know, Stanley Cup playoff
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Speaker 9: overtime hockey. It is absolutely positively fantastic. It was last
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Speaker 9: night and Carolina leveled up the series and they'll head
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Speaker 9: back out West for Game three, which of course you'll
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Speaker 9: be able to hear right ESPN seven hundred.
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Speaker 5: Not much has changed.
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Speaker 9: We have always been your destination for all the biggest
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Speaker 9: events in sport, and that has continued. James and the
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Speaker 9: crew here have done a great job maintaining and adding
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Speaker 9: to it. I kind of feel like I've got a
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Speaker 9: little worry. We kind of added hockey right before I
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Speaker 9: left a couple of years. It's weird, by the way,
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Speaker 9: we are coming up on almost the two year anniversary
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Speaker 9: right at the end of the month. I think it
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Speaker 9: was the twenty seventh or twenty eighth of June two
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Speaker 9: years ago that I left full time to take my
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Speaker 9: new job up the University of Utah, which I love.
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Speaker 9: But yeah, but but we added the hockey playoffs, right,
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Speaker 9: and they've continued and now this is a hockey market
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Speaker 9: and it's awesome. So you've got the NBA finals, you've
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Speaker 9: got the Stanley Cup Finals, you've got the World Cup.
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Speaker 9: Which World Cup qualifier? I don't think, James, are you
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Speaker 9: guys carrying the World Cup?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: That's uh so we're Westwood one affiliate. That's where a
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Speaker 1: lot of ours besides ESPA radio come from. Westwood One
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Speaker 1: Sports USA is the hockey they need, none of those
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Speaker 1: in ESPN obviously doesn't have the radio. Oh reil Cups
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Speaker 1: had a hard time flagging that down. What the radio
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Speaker 1: World Cup is? It could be Fox Sports Radio, maybe
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Speaker 1: Fox TV and Fox Sports.
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Speaker 5: That's that's exactly what it is. I take that. I
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Speaker 5: should have even I should have remembered that. Really what
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Speaker 5: they do.
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Speaker 9: I think Fox just basically moves their TV broadcasts over
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Speaker 9: to the radio side of things. It's just a yeah,
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Speaker 9: it's what I've heard that on satellite radio for years.
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Speaker 9: They do that with friendlies and international stuff.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, Westwood one is your home of US soccer. Besides
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Speaker 1: the World Cup, they have all the other tournaments.
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Speaker 9: And that's why you'll hear the quality you'll hear the
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Speaker 9: World Cup tune up the last I don't call them friendlies.
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Speaker 9: When I called soccer for all those years with Rayale
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Speaker 9: salt Lake, sometimes we'd say international friendlies. But if you've
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Speaker 9: called some of those before, there's really nothing friendly about them,
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Speaker 9: and I don't think they'll be overly friendly tomorrow with
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Speaker 9: it being the final tune up for both the United
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Speaker 9: States and Germany as they get ready for World Cup action.
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Speaker 9: So anyway, everything you need is right here, including Utah football,
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Speaker 9: which begins in ninety days, and we'll talk about that
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Speaker 9: as well. So anything that you guys want to talk
10:51
Speaker 9: about today is fair game. I left some space specifically
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Speaker 9: for a lot of time because you know, I just
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Speaker 9: have to sit in my office and talk to myself
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Speaker 9: now because I don't do a radio show every day,
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Speaker 9: so anybody that walks by my office up of the
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Speaker 9: Huntsman Center probably thinks I'm nuts and I'm talking to myself.
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Speaker 9: But sometimes I have to fill the dead air. You know,
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Speaker 9: you work in radio for a long time. Dead air
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Speaker 9: is the worst thing you can have, So sometimes I
11:16
Speaker 9: find myself just talking to myself. So today I get
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Speaker 9: to talk to you guys. And with you guys, and
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Speaker 9: with our guests that include Gordy Chiesa Stevenson, Sylvester Marcelo
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Speaker 9: Balboa and if you're not familiar with Cello. Cello is
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Speaker 9: a member of the United States World Cup squads in
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Speaker 9: the early nineties ninety four when they played here in
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Speaker 9: the United States. Cello is a great broadcast and an
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Speaker 9: excellent career in MLS. He now handles some of the
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Speaker 9: Spanish language broadcasting of international soccer, so he'll be part
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Speaker 9: of the World Cup coverage as well. So Cello's going
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Speaker 9: to join us from Chicago because he'll be calling tomorrow's
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Speaker 9: matchup between the United States and Germany.
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Speaker 5: Anyway, those are there, We go. I thought I lost
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Speaker 5: my headphones for a minute.
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Speaker 9: Those are our guests today. But I want to spend
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Speaker 9: some time talking to you. I want to talk about
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Speaker 9: some things that I've kind of kicked around on my
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Speaker 9: podcast the last couple of months. I've got some Utah
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Speaker 9: football questions I'm gonna throw your way. I want to
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Speaker 9: get your read on the college football playoff I've liked.
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Speaker 9: I'll be honest, despite the fact that I haven't yet
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Speaker 9: been able to call the college football playoff game I've
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Speaker 9: liked the twelve team format. I've got no real issue
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Speaker 9: with the twelve team format, and if they decided to
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Speaker 9: stay with the twelve team format, I would be okay
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Speaker 9: with any and all that stuff.
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Speaker 5: But it's not gonna happen. You guys have seen this.
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Speaker 9: There's been tons of news over the last several weeks.
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Speaker 9: The SEC wants to move it to sixteen, the Big Ten,
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Speaker 9: seemingly the Big twelve, the ACC, Fox Television certainly want
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Speaker 9: to move it to twenty four teams. And I know
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Speaker 9: Sean has talked about this in this space. I know
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Speaker 9: that Spence has talked about it in this space. I
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Speaker 9: know I've talked about it with those guys in this space,
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Speaker 9: but I haven't got a chance to talk to you
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Speaker 9: guys about it. So I would just be curious to
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Speaker 9: know where you guys sit on the college football playoff picture,
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Speaker 9: because it's going to change.
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Speaker 5: It's not going to change next year.
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Speaker 9: Next year will still be a twelve team playoff, but
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Speaker 9: maybe as soon as twenty twenty seven it could change,
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Speaker 9: maybe to sixteen teams, maybe to twenty four teams. Do
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Speaker 9: you guys have a preference on what you would like
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Speaker 9: to see and why would that be. I'll tell you
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Speaker 9: mine for now. I am not setting I've never been.
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Speaker 9: I think you learned sometimes as you get older in
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Speaker 9: life that you should not be set in stone or
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Speaker 9: married completely and totally to your opinions. You should let
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Speaker 9: those be somewhat fluid as information flows your way. When
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Speaker 9: I was younger and doing this job in my twenties
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Speaker 9: and thirties, and probably even my early forties, you'd have
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Speaker 9: an opinion. You would come on the air and you
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Speaker 9: stuck to that was a hill you were gonna die,
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Speaker 9: and you would fight with listeners, and you would fight
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Speaker 9: with other media members over your opinion. And I still
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Speaker 9: feel strongly about a lot of things. But what you
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Speaker 9: learn when you get older is the more information you
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Speaker 9: get about particular topics and subjects and whatever it might
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Speaker 9: happen to be, you should allow yourself the ability to change.
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Speaker 9: Maybe you don't completely change an opinion on something, but
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Speaker 9: maybe the more information you get on it, the more
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Speaker 9: you could be swayed a little bit. And that's where
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Speaker 9: I kind of stand with the college football playoff.
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Speaker 5: I never like now.
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Speaker 9: I thought the four team playoff was better than nothing.
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Speaker 9: I thought when the fourteen playoff came in more than
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Speaker 9: a decade ago. I think I thought it was better
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Speaker 9: than it was better than nothing, but I still didn't
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Speaker 9: think it was great because I didn't think just two
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Speaker 9: teams were worthy of playing for a championship when you
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Speaker 9: didn't have a tournament leading up to that. Now I
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Speaker 9: like the fact that a playoff committee selects it with
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Speaker 9: the help of computers and analytics and advanced data. But
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Speaker 9: I never liked the idea of computers completely and totally
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Speaker 9: selecting things because I don't I think there's got to
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Speaker 9: be some sort of a human element to it. Just
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Speaker 9: the same way I don't believe that we should completely
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Speaker 9: do away with officials like umpires in sport. Can we
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Speaker 9: use electronics, Can we use computers to help impact and
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Speaker 9: make the game better, Yes, But I don't want to
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Speaker 9: ever take the human element completely away from officiating, the
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Speaker 9: same way I don't want to take the human element
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Speaker 9: away from selecting teams for a college football playoff. So
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Speaker 9: I thought four was good, but I didn't think it
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Speaker 9: was the right number. I never really did, but it
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Speaker 9: was a good, good start. And now for the last
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Speaker 9: couple of years, we've gone to a twelve team playoff
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Speaker 9: in college football, and I think it's been fan despite
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Speaker 9: the fact that Utah has not played in that twelve
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Speaker 9: team tournament, I think it's been a good addition. I
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Speaker 9: think it's been a good change. I think it's been
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Speaker 9: good for collegiate athletics to have more teams in. And
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Speaker 9: I think that we with twelve teams, are you missing
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Speaker 9: a few? Perhaps are there teams that might be left
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Speaker 9: out that might have a champ a chance to play
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Speaker 9: for and advance through the tournament and maybe win a championship.
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Speaker 9: I think there probably are in some years. You know,
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Speaker 9: last year, Notre Dame didn't make the field, and some
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Speaker 9: people thought that that was terrible, it was the end
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Speaker 9: of the world. I never feel bad for Notre Dame
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Speaker 9: because Notre Dame gets more breaks than most, if not
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Speaker 9: any or if not all. So I didn't but maybe
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Speaker 9: Texas was good enough, maybe BYU was good enough, maybe
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Speaker 9: Utah was good enough last year, but I was okay
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Speaker 9: with it. Well, now we've got Tony Petiti, the man
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Speaker 9: that runs the Big Ten, wanting to expand this playoff
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Speaker 9: tournament to twenty four teams. He's got a lot of
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Speaker 9: backing on this. The Big twelve coaches unanimously said yeah,
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Speaker 9: we want twenty four teams.
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Speaker 5: The ACC.
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Speaker 9: I don't know if the coaches were unanimous, but the
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Speaker 9: league and their commissioner, Jim Phillips is backing it. Fox
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Speaker 9: Sports Television one of the we know. Fox Sports is
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Speaker 9: the reason the PAC twelve doesn't exist the way it
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Speaker 9: used to anymore. I know people say it exists it's
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Speaker 9: a conference again, but let's be fair, it's a glorified
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Speaker 9: Mountain West Conference. But Fox Sports is one of the
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Speaker 9: biggest drivers in collegiate athletics and in sport.
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Speaker 5: They backed the Big Ten. They would like it to change.
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Speaker 9: You want to know why, Because ESPN owns the playoff
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Speaker 9: right now.
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Speaker 5: Fox has nothing.
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Speaker 9: To do with the college football playoff, and I don't
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Speaker 9: know financially that ESPN could afford to buy an entire
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Speaker 9: twenty four team tournament. I just don't know that they've
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Speaker 9: got the pockets deep enough to do that. So the
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Speaker 9: only people right now that are standing firm on twelve
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Speaker 9: and maybe six team but not moving to twenty four
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Speaker 9: are the SEC Greg Sank's League, And I'm not sure
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Speaker 9: that they're unanimous in that, but that you don't see
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Speaker 9: any coaches speaking out against it. That's the one thing
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Speaker 9: about the SEC and Greg Senki, because he's a good
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Speaker 9: leader of that conference, is you very rarely see anybody
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Speaker 9: stepping out. They have a consensus and they have one
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Speaker 9: voice there. And of course, the other party that doesn't
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Speaker 9: want to see the playoff expand from twelve right now
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Speaker 9: is ESPN and ABC because they own it, and if
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Speaker 9: it expands further out, that means more money, higher rights fees,
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Speaker 9: and I'm not sure that any one, and I'm not
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Speaker 9: sure frankly, that college football would want that because I
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Speaker 9: think when you put things out to bid, the number
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Speaker 9: becomes higher. Maybe Fox comes into that, then maybe Netflix
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Speaker 9: or Prime. We've seen them step in with the NFL
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Speaker 9: and they've got deeper pockets than both Fox and ESPN
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Speaker 9: do combined. But I would be very curious where you guys,
19:03
Speaker 9: as college football fans, fall on this. Where do you
19:08
Speaker 9: say you would like to see the college football Playoff go?
19:15
Speaker 9: So I'm not so up in the night and I'm
19:17
Speaker 9: not so Pollyanna to think that it's not going to change,
19:20
Speaker 9: It will not stay at twelve. Finances and where things
19:23
Speaker 9: are in collegiate athletics and the need for more and
19:26
Speaker 9: more money that's what drives all of this. That's why
19:29
Speaker 9: it went from four to twelve. That's why twelve is
19:33
Speaker 9: a short term fix. It's going to expand again, and
19:36
Speaker 9: it may end up they end up at twenty four immediately.
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Speaker 9: You may double the field and go from twelve teams
19:44
Speaker 9: to twenty four. But I would be very curious to
19:47
Speaker 9: hear from you guys today to let me know where
19:50
Speaker 9: you stand on this particular issue ask college And I
19:54
Speaker 9: know just about everybody listening to me talk right now
19:57
Speaker 9: is probably a college football fan. Whether you're fan and
20:00
Speaker 9: a BYU fan, a Utah State fan, maybe you're a
20:03
Speaker 9: USC maybe you're a the Ohio State University fan.
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Speaker 5: Whatever.
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Speaker 9: Maybe you just like college football and that that's understandable too.
20:12
Speaker 9: Maybe you didn't go to a school that played a
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Speaker 9: lot of football. Maybe you went to Gonzaga and you
20:17
Speaker 9: didn't have any college football, but you love college football.
20:20
Speaker 9: I know lots of people like that that went to
20:21
Speaker 9: smaller colleges that didn't have football. But I bet you've
20:26
Speaker 9: got an opinion on this. I'm I'm just guessing that
20:29
Speaker 9: you've got to read on this. So I'd love to
20:32
Speaker 9: hear from you today that the text line is as
20:34
Speaker 9: you know, it's it's always open and it will be
20:38
Speaker 9: open all day long today for you, and I set
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Speaker 9: the first hour aside because I don't get to have
20:43
Speaker 9: interaction with you guys every day to talk about this
20:46
Speaker 9: and some Utah football stuff as well. Eight seven seven
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Speaker 9: three five three zero seven hundred is your text line.
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Speaker 9: That's again eight seven seven three five three zero seven
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Speaker 9: to get you in and on board. The Sean O'Connell
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Speaker 9: show today Bill Riley filling in for OC And you.
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Speaker 5: Tell me which of the three four match do you prefer?
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Speaker 5: The twelfth.
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Speaker 9: We're not gonna say, oh, I wish we would go
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Speaker 9: back to four, because that's not realistic.
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Speaker 5: That is never happening.
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Speaker 9: That toothpaste is out of the tube, that Genie has
21:19
Speaker 9: left the bottle, it ain't ever happening. So you've got
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Speaker 9: the twelve team Stan Pat Stan put this this is
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Speaker 9: a great format.
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Speaker 5: I like it.
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Speaker 9: Then you've got the sixteen team playoff, which I'm not
21:32
Speaker 9: I'm gonna confess to you guys right now I'm a
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Speaker 9: fan of and I'll tell you why in just a second.
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Speaker 9: Or you've got the twenty four team playoff, which includes
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Speaker 9: a lot more schools which means a lot more. Now,
21:45
Speaker 9: the only thing I will say about the twenty fourteen playoff,
21:48
Speaker 9: I understand why people are pitching it because it's money.
21:51
Speaker 9: You're gonna go from seven hundred million dollars is what
21:54
Speaker 9: the tournament generates right now to probably closer to two
21:58
Speaker 9: billion dollars.
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Speaker 5: That's a lot of money.
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Speaker 9: And let trust me when I say this, there is
22:04
Speaker 9: not a school out there, from the richest of the
22:07
Speaker 9: rich to the poorest of the poor, that couldn't use
22:10
Speaker 9: more money in their coffers.
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Speaker 5: Everybody needs it. But I will tell you this, I
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Speaker 5: am a fan.
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Speaker 9: If I had to choose between those three options, I'm
22:25
Speaker 9: a fan of the sixteen team playoff and I always
22:28
Speaker 9: have been. You can go back to the days where
22:29
Speaker 9: Kyle Whittingham and I used to talk about this on
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Speaker 9: his show and when he would join me on this show.
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Speaker 9: If you go to a playoff, and I think one
22:36
Speaker 9: DOUBLEA did it for the longest time. They've now expanded
22:38
Speaker 9: to twenty four themselves, but Division two, Division three, they
22:42
Speaker 9: do sixteen team playoffs. Here's why I like the sixteen
22:48
Speaker 9: team playoff. If we're leaving the twelve team format, one
22:54
Speaker 9: you keep conference championship games. You can still have the
22:57
Speaker 9: conference championship games if you want to. Not every league does,
23:01
Speaker 9: but if you want to, you can, and I think
23:02
Speaker 9: there's a value in that in winning your conference. So
23:09
Speaker 9: I like the idea I do. I like conference championship weekend.
23:13
Speaker 9: Make it that first weekend in December where it is
23:16
Speaker 9: right now. The other thing I like about a sixteen
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Speaker 9: team playoff, which is my choice if we were doing it.
23:24
Speaker 9: You can't lose more than two games in the regular
23:26
Speaker 9: season and make the playoff. Yeah, you're going to expand
23:30
Speaker 9: the field just a little bit, but I think if
23:32
Speaker 9: you have three losses, it's going to be really difficult.
23:37
Speaker 9: Three regularists, I'll say this, three regular season losses. You
23:40
Speaker 9: might be able to sneak in if you got to
23:42
Speaker 9: your conference championship game and lost it, depending on what
23:46
Speaker 9: your resume look like. But if you have more than
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Speaker 9: two regular season games that you lose, you're not going
23:52
Speaker 9: to make the playoffs.
23:53
Speaker 5: And I like that. It's four rounds.
23:58
Speaker 9: It starts the second week in December and it ends
24:00
Speaker 9: the second week of January. Do you know when the
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Speaker 9: conference I believe the NCAA the championship game this year
24:09
Speaker 9: is going to be played almost into late January this year.
24:12
Speaker 9: I think it's somewhere around January twentieth, twenty first. James
24:15
Speaker 9: might be able to look that up. It's late this year.
24:20
Speaker 9: That's too long for college football, and you're going head
24:24
Speaker 9: to head with the NFL and their playoffs. And that's
24:26
Speaker 9: a losing proposition because we know the NFL wins everything
24:30
Speaker 9: that it goes up against. But I think that's right,
24:33
Speaker 9: a month long tournament with four rounds. Jane, Okay, I
24:41
Speaker 9: was right about that. It's even later. James's January twenty
24:44
Speaker 9: fifth is when the college football Championship game is going
24:48
Speaker 9: to be.
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Speaker 5: That January twenty fifth. What are we doing? It's too late.
24:53
Speaker 9: And that's with a twelve team playoff this year. That's
24:57
Speaker 9: not even with a twenty four team anyway.
24:59
Speaker 5: Okay. The other thing you get with a sixteen team playoff,
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Speaker 5: every matchup's the top tier in theory.
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Speaker 9: You expand to twenty four, you're allowing some teams in,
25:10
Speaker 9: and I think, and I get it, that's great, but
25:12
Speaker 9: some of those early round matchups are not gonna be
25:14
Speaker 9: great matchups.
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Speaker 5: They're just not.
25:18
Speaker 9: And you still increase the coffers. You keep those conference
25:21
Speaker 9: championship games, and I think your your coffers are going
25:25
Speaker 9: to increase to from roughly seven hundred million, you're probably
25:29
Speaker 9: gonna go over a billion dollars, which is is not
25:32
Speaker 9: chump change. Yeah, it may not be the two billion
25:35
Speaker 9: you get to with twenty four teams, but if you're
25:38
Speaker 9: at one point two one point three one point four
25:40
Speaker 9: billion dollars, you're almost doubling where you are now. And
25:43
Speaker 9: that's pretty good. By the way, I ran an Ai
25:49
Speaker 9: sim this morning. And yeah, last season, a sixteen team
25:53
Speaker 9: playoff would have included both Utah and BYU. Last year,
25:58
Speaker 9: Utah would have drawn Indie in the first round at Indiana.
26:04
Speaker 9: BYU would have drawn Tulane if you could believe that,
26:08
Speaker 9: which would have been good for BYU because I just don't.
26:10
Speaker 9: That would have been a wild matchup though, because it
26:12
Speaker 9: would have been the BYG the old Jake Ratz left
26:16
Speaker 9: going up against the team that said they didn't want
26:18
Speaker 9: him anymore, which would have been an interesting storyline. But anyway,
26:23
Speaker 9: in a twenty fourteen playoff last year, Michigan would have
26:26
Speaker 9: been at Utah in round number one about the cemetery
26:29
Speaker 9: of that now and Houston would have been at BYU
26:32
Speaker 9: in round number one for the on campus games. So anyway,
26:37
Speaker 9: I know there's advantages to all, there's drawbacks to all
26:40
Speaker 9: as well. But if I had my choice in the
26:43
Speaker 9: big picture of it all, I would say, give me
26:46
Speaker 9: a sixteen team playoff and let's go from there.
26:50
Speaker 5: See where it goes. Maybe eventually. I just hate the idea.
26:56
Speaker 9: We've only been at twelve for two years, and I
26:58
Speaker 9: think twelve's been good. But to go from four teams
27:02
Speaker 9: three years ago to twenty four teams, let's just say,
27:06
Speaker 9: five years later, just seems like a pretty big jump
27:10
Speaker 9: to me. I don't mind change. I know a lot
27:13
Speaker 9: of people don't like change. I don't mind change. Change
27:16
Speaker 9: doesn't bother me. I've learned to roll with the punches
27:19
Speaker 9: over the years. That's the other advantage of getting old.
27:22
Speaker 9: When you get old, you don't necessarily like change, but
27:24
Speaker 9: you understand change happens. That just feels like an extreme
27:29
Speaker 9: change to me. Eventually, maybe you get to twenty four,
27:33
Speaker 9: but let's see how sixteen works first. And if we're
27:37
Speaker 9: still in the dire financial straits we are around the
27:39
Speaker 9: country and everybody needs that money still, well, then bump
27:43
Speaker 9: that field eight more teams up go from sixteen to
27:46
Speaker 9: twenty four.
27:47
Speaker 5: Trust me, I would.
27:49
Speaker 9: Love the college college college putting football playoff game. And
27:53
Speaker 9: if the twenty four team field had been in effect
27:55
Speaker 9: for the last ten or fifteen years, Utah would have
27:58
Speaker 9: been in the tournament eight times. A twenty fourteen playoff,
28:02
Speaker 9: Utah would have made the playoff eight that would have
28:06
Speaker 9: led the Big twelve Conference, that would have probably come
28:10
Speaker 9: close to leading the Pac twelve Conference as well.
28:15
Speaker 5: But it hasn't.
28:17
Speaker 9: And yeah, I do like more access, but to be
28:19
Speaker 9: very fair, sixteen teams feels like about the very edge.
28:25
Speaker 5: What are we trying to do with this tournament.
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Speaker 9: I know we're trying to accomplish a lot of different things,
28:30
Speaker 9: but ultimately we're trying to give access to people that
28:33
Speaker 9: have a legitimate chance to win the tournament right and
28:37
Speaker 9: make money at the same time. I just really don't
28:40
Speaker 9: believe there's gonna be many teams beyond the field of
28:43
Speaker 9: sixteen that have a real legitimate chance of winning a
28:47
Speaker 9: national championship. Could you have a Cinderella, maybe, but how
28:54
Speaker 9: far is that Cinderella gonna go? Are you gonna win
28:56
Speaker 9: four rounds? Probably not likely? If your team fifteen or
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Speaker 9: if your team's seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty one, two three
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Speaker 9: and four. But I would say anybody in the top
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Speaker 9: sixteen would have a decent chance of at least advancing
29:15
Speaker 9: multiple rounds, if not winning at all. But you guys,
29:18
Speaker 9: tell me what you think. Eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 9: three zero seven hundred. There are no wrong answers here.
29:25
Speaker 9: There are some answers that may be more right than others,
29:28
Speaker 9: but there are no wrong answers. We'll get into some
29:31
Speaker 9: other stuff too. I've got some Utah football questions to
29:33
Speaker 9: get into as well. It's a Friday. It's a free
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Speaker 9: for all Friday on the Shaan O'Connell Show. I'm Bill Riley,
29:38
Speaker 9: sitting in today from the Downtown Broadway Media Studios.
29:41
Speaker 5: Good to have you in.
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Speaker 9: We'll read some of your text messages and hear from
29:44
Speaker 9: you guys, and we get back on the other side.
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Speaker 5: Right. You're at ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
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Speaker 2: No, you're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
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Speaker 2: Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety to
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Speaker 2: one half.
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Speaker 9: An Riley sitting in for O'Connell today on a free
30:04
Speaker 9: for all Friday. Here gonna be back in the air
30:06
Speaker 9: chair with you today. Text lines open. I left the
30:10
Speaker 9: first hour of this show pretty wide open just so
30:13
Speaker 9: we could chat a little bit. I'm you know, this
30:15
Speaker 9: college football playoff stuff has been gaining more and more
30:18
Speaker 9: momentum in recent weeks since all the different conference meetings
30:21
Speaker 9: from the SEC to the Big Ten, to the a
30:23
Speaker 9: c C to the Big twelve have taken place. And
30:26
Speaker 9: there's definitive momentum. It's gonna change, not gonna change this year.
30:30
Speaker 9: Still be a twelve team playoff this year, but maybe
30:33
Speaker 9: as soon as next year. And here's your other problem too.
30:35
Speaker 9: You've got I've got television contracts are in place. With this,
30:38
Speaker 9: You're gonna have to rework those television contracts. And I'm
30:42
Speaker 9: you know, I'm not legal ease enough to know, but
30:46
Speaker 9: that's that's not easy to unwind. But I'm just simply
30:49
Speaker 9: asking the question today, if you had your druthers, which
30:53
Speaker 9: format do you like best as a college football fan,
30:57
Speaker 9: knowing that most of you are either Utah or BYU
30:59
Speaker 9: fans listening in, and your team hasn't made the playoff yet,
31:02
Speaker 9: but they would have made it last year with a
31:04
Speaker 9: sixteen or twenty fourteen playoff?
31:07
Speaker 5: Which would you prefer.
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Speaker 9: The twelve team format, the sixteen team format, the twenty
31:11
Speaker 9: four team format. I made my case for the sixteen.
31:15
Speaker 9: That's where I stand. As I said, it is not
31:19
Speaker 9: set in stone with me that it's got to be
31:21
Speaker 9: sixteen forever, but I would like to see that as
31:24
Speaker 9: the next logical step if they do decide to change it.
31:28
Speaker 9: I'm not so up in the night that I don't
31:31
Speaker 9: think that it's going to eventually probably get to twenty
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Speaker 9: four because of money, But I'd just like to see
31:37
Speaker 9: how it functions at sixteen and if the revenue generated
31:41
Speaker 9: and the foot more importantly, the football that is played.
31:44
Speaker 9: You don't want to expand, and again, I don't know
31:46
Speaker 9: what would happen here. I just feel like the television
31:50
Speaker 9: with twelve has been outstanding, and I think with sixteen,
31:54
Speaker 9: adding four more teams, it would be too. But I
31:57
Speaker 9: don't want to get to the point where you get
31:58
Speaker 9: some of those matchups in the early round of the
32:00
Speaker 9: playoffs that are good, but they don't really move the
32:04
Speaker 9: needle enough or we have too much of it.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's even possible.
32:08
Speaker 9: Is it possible to have too much college football in December,
32:12
Speaker 9: because again we have those couple of weeks in mid
32:14
Speaker 9: December after championship weekend, the end of the NFL season's coming,
32:20
Speaker 9: but we don't have any real meaningful games, especially now
32:23
Speaker 9: till really very end of December early January. Because all
32:27
Speaker 9: those bold games we all used to love when we
32:29
Speaker 9: were younger, at least me, when bold games really really
32:33
Speaker 9: meant something, those have kind of fallen to the wayside.
32:36
Speaker 9: They're just kind of background noise now. So if you
32:39
Speaker 9: could plug some playoff games in there, I think it
32:41
Speaker 9: would be good. But what's the right number in your mind?
32:45
Speaker 9: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. That's
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Speaker 9: the text number to get in and on board today
32:50
Speaker 9: here on the Shaan O'Connell show. Eight seven seven three
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Speaker 9: five three zero seven hundred. And we'll read some of
32:57
Speaker 9: those text messages right now for you. I've got some
32:59
Speaker 9: Utah football stuff we'll get into coming up in just
33:01
Speaker 9: a bit, but I wanted to get your read on
33:04
Speaker 9: this first and kind of see where you guys. All right,
33:06
Speaker 9: I don't have the daily I don't have that daily
33:08
Speaker 9: line to you. I don't I still have the finger
33:11
Speaker 9: on the pulse but not quite like it used to be.
33:13
Speaker 9: That's why I wanted to talk to you guys about
33:14
Speaker 9: it today. Jared says, what do you think will be
33:19
Speaker 9: the biggest difference between the Scalley and winningham Eras, I
33:23
Speaker 9: don't know that yet. The culture hasn't changed in Utah.
33:29
Speaker 9: I'm up there all the time a little bit. As
33:31
Speaker 9: I've said here in this space and on my podcast
33:33
Speaker 9: and other stuff. There's a different kind of an energy
33:36
Speaker 9: around Morgan and the program right now than maybe there
33:40
Speaker 9: was the last couple of years. And that's not a
33:42
Speaker 9: bad thing, and that's not a judgment on either of
33:46
Speaker 9: the energies. But I don't know yet. I think that
33:51
Speaker 9: has to play out. I think the culture is very
33:54
Speaker 9: much the same stylistically. I'm anxious to see what Kevin
33:58
Speaker 9: mcgiven does with the authing, but I don't I don't
34:03
Speaker 9: know that there's going to be a huge shift. I
34:06
Speaker 9: really don't.
34:08
Speaker 5: So we'll see.
34:08
Speaker 9: We'll find out this fall when things kick off ninety
34:11
Speaker 9: days from today, by the way, against the Idaho Vandals.
34:15
Speaker 9: Text message in from Easton Easton says, Hey, Bill, is
34:19
Speaker 9: this the year Utah gets back on track and beats
34:22
Speaker 9: the team down South?
34:23
Speaker 5: If so, why, well, I hope so. But I thought
34:30
Speaker 5: that they would do that last year. I did.
34:32
Speaker 9: I thought they were the better team going into Provo
34:34
Speaker 9: last year, and it proved that BYU was the better
34:36
Speaker 9: team because they didn't beat themselves in Utah beat themselves
34:40
Speaker 9: last year.
34:42
Speaker 5: Reasons I would like their chances this year. They're at home.
34:45
Speaker 9: For one, I don't know that I've never felt like
34:48
Speaker 9: home field was a huge advantage, but I think it's
34:50
Speaker 9: a small advantage for you playing in your stadium with
34:53
Speaker 9: your fans there, so I think that's an edge. I
34:56
Speaker 9: think Devin dan Pier is a dynamic player and back
35:01
Speaker 9: for his senior year, so I think that's an advantage.
35:04
Speaker 9: I think the wide receiving cores is better than it's been,
35:07
Speaker 9: maybe deeper than it's been in my almost eighteen years
35:11
Speaker 9: of being.
35:12
Speaker 5: The voice of the Utes, so I like that.
35:16
Speaker 1: But it's it's always a close game and BYU is good,
35:19
Speaker 1: and they return a ton from last year's team as well.
35:24
Speaker 1: So I gave you a few reasons why it could happen.
35:27
Speaker 1: Let's see how some of the games play. I think
35:30
Speaker 1: the schedule leading up to it's very favorable for Utah
35:32
Speaker 1: as well. It's not a murderer's row for the Utes
35:34
Speaker 1: really until November, and then it becomes tough. You've got BYU,
35:40
Speaker 1: Arizona and TCU in three straight weeks in November.
35:45
Speaker 9: That's that's not an easy stretch. But there is a
35:48
Speaker 9: world where Utah is undefeated going into the BYU game.
35:54
Speaker 9: So we'll see what happens Easton. I appreciate it. This
35:57
Speaker 9: text in from Will today at eight seven seven three
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Speaker 9: five three zero seven hundred, Will says, hey, Bell, Jazz.
36:03
Speaker 1: And Mammoth are rolling. Well, are the Jazz rolling? Let's
36:09
Speaker 1: pump the brakes on that they This might be the
36:12
Speaker 1: turnaround off.
36:13
Speaker 5: Season for the Jazz.
36:15
Speaker 9: I think there's reasons to be optimistic about the Jazz
36:18
Speaker 9: being a lot better next year. But I'm not gonna
36:21
Speaker 9: say they're rowing, Mammoth rowing. Playoff team took the Golden Knights.
36:25
Speaker 9: You might win the cup to the very almost the
36:27
Speaker 9: very end. Utah football just around the corner. MLB is coming,
36:31
Speaker 9: and I guess to listen to you today, life is great.
36:34
Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate that, Will. Life is great. It
36:38
Speaker 5: really is. Appreciate every single day you get that. That's
36:43
Speaker 5: my motto.
36:45
Speaker 9: This went in from Allen Today, Allen says, hey, I
36:48
Speaker 9: like twenty four They have everyone start Week zero and
36:52
Speaker 9: eliminate conference championships, play all through December with the higher
36:58
Speaker 9: seed home teams, than wrap it up in the first
37:01
Speaker 9: week of January. That would have to be the game plan.
37:04
Speaker 9: And I think you're gonna begin to see college football
37:07
Speaker 9: what's week zero now is probably gonna becoming whether they
37:11
Speaker 9: eliminate conference championship games or not. I think Week zero
37:15
Speaker 9: will soon be becoming Week one anyway, but there's a
37:19
Speaker 9: chance that could happen. Al and I appreciate the text
37:21
Speaker 9: message eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
37:25
Speaker 9: Texter sixty two twenty seven says, hey, Bill, how about
37:28
Speaker 9: a twenty fourteen playoff.
37:29
Speaker 5: It's good with me.
37:31
Speaker 9: Gives the Utes a better chance to make the playoffs
37:34
Speaker 9: and more football for us to watch.
37:36
Speaker 5: Sounds like a win win to me.
37:39
Speaker 9: Yeah, But to be fair, sixteen would give the Utes
37:42
Speaker 9: a better chance to also make the playoffs. I just
37:53
Speaker 9: I don't like the idea of watering down what's arguably
37:59
Speaker 9: the best sports season in sport in the United States.
38:02
Speaker 9: NFL and college football are the best sports season for me.
38:05
Speaker 9: Football season in general is the best sports season. I
38:11
Speaker 9: understand the economic ramifications of all of it, but if
38:13
Speaker 9: we're just talking specifically and purely about football, I like
38:18
Speaker 9: the sixteen team playoff myself. Texter twenty five sixty says,
38:26
Speaker 9: Hey Bill, I'd like to see the sixteen team playoff.
38:30
Speaker 9: Conference champs are guaranteed a home game. Twenty four is
38:34
Speaker 9: too many. I don't want to see an eight and
38:36
Speaker 9: four SEC team make it.
38:41
Speaker 5: I'm with you on that.
38:42
Speaker 9: Twenty four just it feels like a really big leap
38:45
Speaker 9: for me, doubling the field. I understand why it might
38:48
Speaker 9: go there. But the one thing I will say about
38:53
Speaker 9: Petit and his plan for twenty four and what I
38:56
Speaker 9: don't like is and I haven't talked as much about
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Speaker 9: this recently as they did say last year, but I
39:04
Speaker 9: don't like the guarantees. And when I say guarantees, I
39:08
Speaker 9: don't like the SEC getting six guaranteed teams in. I
39:12
Speaker 9: don't like the Big ten getting six guaranteed teams in.
39:15
Speaker 9: I don't want the Big twelve, you know, the Big
39:18
Speaker 9: twelve of the ACC are not getting those same six
39:22
Speaker 9: because that would be the entire field. They're giving three
39:24
Speaker 9: to the Big twelve and maybe three at least, these
39:26
Speaker 9: are the numbers that have.
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Speaker 5: Been kicked around. Nothing's locked in, it's not again, these
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Speaker 5: are just.
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Speaker 9: Proposals, and then you know there would be six more
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Speaker 9: at large teams after that, which, by the way, could
39:39
Speaker 9: still be more SEC and more Big ten teams. So
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Speaker 9: in theory you might have eight SEC teams, eight Big
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Speaker 9: ten teams, three Big twelve, three ACC and maybe three
39:52
Speaker 9: Group of fives or non power schools, which by the way,
39:56
Speaker 9: I'm not opposed to. I I thought last year James
40:02
Speaker 9: Madison and Twulane they were outclassed. It showed, and that
40:08
Speaker 9: was in a twelve team field. I think the best
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Speaker 9: group of five team gets an entrance. I do, but
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Speaker 9: I don't think you should have two in there unless
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Speaker 9: they meet a certain criteria. Being ranked in the top
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Speaker 9: twenty five is not enough for me because they don't play.
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Speaker 5: The same schedule week in and week out.
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Speaker 9: If you hit a threshold of saying you're a top
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Speaker 9: sixteen or a top fifteen team, okay, But I don't
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Speaker 9: want some group of five team that went eleven to
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Speaker 9: one and snuck in at the end of the top
40:42
Speaker 9: they're ranked twenty fourth or twenty fifth to get into
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Speaker 9: that field. Because they've got no chance because they may
40:48
Speaker 9: have played one ranked team, maybe didn't play any ranked
40:51
Speaker 9: teams all year long. I think one group of five
40:55
Speaker 9: teams absolutely should be in that field, and if there's
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Speaker 9: more than one, they have to meet a certain threshold
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Speaker 9: to be there, because this tournament isn't always just about access,
41:06
Speaker 9: it's about getting the best teams. So but back to
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Speaker 9: my point, I don't like the idea of the guarantee.
41:18
Speaker 9: I don't like the idea of half the field two
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Speaker 9: thirds of the field being Big ten and SEC schools
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Speaker 9: with those guarantees. I want the best teams in there. Hey,
41:30
Speaker 9: if that's the way it works out in a given year,
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Speaker 9: I'm okay with that. If sixteen of the twenty four
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Speaker 9: best teams in a given year are from the SEC
41:38
Speaker 9: and the Big Ten, good, But they have to earn
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Speaker 9: their way, and that's why you have a committee. That's
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Speaker 9: why the College Football Committee has been put together. Is
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Speaker 9: there work harder yet?
41:48
Speaker 7: It is?
41:49
Speaker 9: But guess what, Selecting sixty eight teams is not easy either,
41:53
Speaker 9: because there's only like what thirty auto bids twenty eight,
41:56
Speaker 9: thirty one, thirty two auto bids. In college basketball, you
41:59
Speaker 9: still have have to pick another thirty six teams. Now
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Speaker 9: it's gonna be more than that because we're up to
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Speaker 9: seventy two or seventy six. So yeah, is it gonna
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Speaker 9: be harder work for the committee, Yes, But my bigger
42:12
Speaker 9: point is I want the best. If we go to
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Speaker 9: twenty four teams or sixteen, whatever that number is, I
42:18
Speaker 9: want the best teams in there, regardless of where their
42:23
Speaker 9: conference affiliation happens to lie. And if the Big twelve
42:27
Speaker 9: only has one or two good teams at a given year,
42:29
Speaker 9: well that's how it goes. League's gotta be good enough,
42:34
Speaker 9: competition's got to be good enough. Let's get a couple
42:39
Speaker 9: more in then we'll grab a break. Text lines open
42:41
Speaker 9: by the way all day long to you guys. We'll
42:43
Speaker 9: have Gordy a little bit later, We'll have Slide joining us.
42:46
Speaker 9: A little bit later, we'll have Marcelo Balboa joining us,
42:49
Speaker 9: Tako Little World Cup a little bit later as well.
42:52
Speaker 9: Galen sends this one in. Galen says, hey, I think
42:55
Speaker 9: they should go to a sixteen team playoff first. Going
42:58
Speaker 9: to twenty four would be too much of a jump
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Speaker 9: for right now. I also don't want to see the
43:02
Speaker 9: conference championship games go away. I'm kind of that way too.
43:07
Speaker 9: I there's something about conference championship weekend and having the
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Speaker 9: best two teams a given conference to a given year
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Speaker 9: play those. Now, some schools will say, well, I don't.
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Speaker 9: I don't want to lose my opportunity to make the
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Speaker 9: playoff because I lost to my conference championship game. I
43:23
Speaker 9: get that, But it would also give you maybe a
43:26
Speaker 9: chance to play your way in if you're on the
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Speaker 9: bubble to that conference to the playoffs. So and I
43:35
Speaker 9: just having covered conference championship, having broadcast two PAC twelve,
43:40
Speaker 9: I've bought broadcast but four PAC twelve championship games for
43:43
Speaker 9: Utah called two wins cover the SEC championship a number
43:47
Speaker 9: of times.
43:48
Speaker 5: It's those are fun, man, Those are fun weekends. You guys.
43:51
Speaker 9: A lot of you guys went BYU fans got a
43:54
Speaker 9: chance to go to Dallas last year. The game wasn't great,
43:58
Speaker 9: but how fun was the week end leading up to it?
44:01
Speaker 9: Utah fans know whether it was over in Levi Stadium
44:06
Speaker 9: or whether it was down in Vegas, those were fun weekends.
44:08
Speaker 5: I'd hate to see those go away.
44:11
Speaker 9: Sam says hey Bill sixteen team formatt is the cleanest,
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Speaker 9: best choice but if there are only no auto bids
44:20
Speaker 9: for the Big ten of the SEC. Unfortunately, I don't
44:23
Speaker 9: think these conferences are going to concede on this. Well,
44:27
Speaker 9: they haven't talked about auto bids with the sixteen as
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Speaker 9: much as they have with the twenty four because the
44:33
Speaker 9: Big ten's only pushing the twenty four, they're not pushing
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Speaker 9: the sixteen. It's always funny to me for those of
44:44
Speaker 9: us that have played sport and covered it that when
44:47
Speaker 9: you see those that work in it and live it
44:51
Speaker 9: day in and day out, coaches and administrators, where they
44:57
Speaker 9: don't necessarily want the results on the field to be
45:00
Speaker 9: the determining factor, they want where you happen to happen
45:03
Speaker 9: to live to be the factor. I've never quite understood
45:07
Speaker 9: that eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred
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Speaker 9: get you in and on board today? Which to the
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Speaker 9: college football playoff four match? Do you support most the twelve,
45:17
Speaker 9: the sixteen, or the twenty four? As I said at
45:21
Speaker 9: the top, I think we're probably steaming toward twenty four
45:24
Speaker 9: at some point, maybe a lot sooner than later, But
45:28
Speaker 9: just from a football standpoint, and monetarily too, I love
45:31
Speaker 9: the idea of going from twelve to sixteen. But I'd
45:35
Speaker 9: love to hear from you guys today. We're gonna talk
45:37
Speaker 9: some Utah football coming up a little bit, ninety days
45:39
Speaker 9: until kickoff, and anything that's on your mind is sphere
45:41
Speaker 9: game today. It could be college football playoff. It could
45:44
Speaker 9: be the Utes, it could be the Cougars. It could
45:46
Speaker 9: be a Jazz Draft, it could be World Cup, it
45:48
Speaker 9: could be Mammoth Hockey playoffs, whatever that might happen to be.
45:54
Speaker 9: By the way, I also loved I didn't love the
45:57
Speaker 9: two teams in it, but I did love watching the
46:00
Speaker 9: College Softball World Series. I love college softball. I love
46:06
Speaker 9: the fact that I get to broadcast Amy Hoag's team
46:08
Speaker 9: for ESPN Plus. I remember it was three years ago
46:12
Speaker 9: where I got to broadcast live on these very airwaves
46:15
Speaker 9: from the College Softball World Series when Utah qualified after
46:19
Speaker 9: winning their Super Regional. I love softball. Pro softball. By
46:22
Speaker 9: the way, coming to Salt Lake City, the AUSL is here.
46:27
Speaker 9: There's a france that the Tallons live here. They're gonna
46:29
Speaker 9: start playing here in less than a month. So if
46:34
Speaker 9: you love the best of the best, I mean, Utah
46:36
Speaker 9: had great in the Big Twelve, was great this year.
46:38
Speaker 9: But if you want to see the best softball players
46:40
Speaker 9: in the world playing. They're gonna be here in Salt
46:43
Speaker 9: Lake City later this year, so that should be fun. Anyway,
46:47
Speaker 9: we'll get some more of your text messages. Got a
46:49
Speaker 9: leader board update. They're playing a jacks tournament this weekend
46:51
Speaker 9: the Memorial give you an update on that coming up
46:53
Speaker 9: as well. All right here on the Shad O'Connell Show
46:55
Speaker 9: on a Friday, Bill Riley sitting in on the ESPN
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Speaker 9: seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
47:02
Speaker 2: As you were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show for
47:05
Speaker 2: the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety
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Speaker 7: A F. M.
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Speaker 5: Ryle's in today for see who's out on assignments. Maybe
47:15
Speaker 5: back next week. Appreciate him. Let me sit in.
47:18
Speaker 9: Gonna be with you guys today. Gordy's gonna come up
47:20
Speaker 9: at about twelve thirty. We'll preview tonight's Game two between
47:24
Speaker 9: the Spurs and the Knickerbockers, which you can hear right here.
47:28
Speaker 9: When Spence wraps up later today at six o'clock right
47:31
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47:34
Speaker 9: home are your NBA Finals and then of course Game
47:36
Speaker 9: three of the Stanley Cup Final tomorrow night at five thirty.
47:39
Speaker 9: Right tomorrow will be a busy day, by the way,
47:41
Speaker 9: the US men's national team against Germany at twelve thirty
47:45
Speaker 9: tomorrow afternoon, and then tomorrow night Game three between the
47:50
Speaker 9: gold Knights and the Carolina Hurricanes right here on your
47:53
Speaker 9: home of the Stanley Cup playoffs, right here on ESPN
47:57
Speaker 9: seven hundred and ninety two to one FM. I met
48:01
Speaker 9: it's such a crazy busy time. I've got the TV
48:03
Speaker 9: on here in the studio. Roland Garros is going on
48:06
Speaker 9: the French Open rolls in Paris right now.
48:09
Speaker 5: PGA Tour.
48:10
Speaker 9: They're in Mirfield Village to Double, Ohio, just outside of
48:13
Speaker 9: Columbus Jack's tournament. The memorial time for a leaderboard update,
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48:26
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48:28
Speaker 9: for the day today and he's in the clubhouse with
48:30
Speaker 9: the one shot leader for j T. Poston who's at
48:33
Speaker 9: seven under par, Wyndham Clark at six under par, Tommy
48:36
Speaker 9: Fleetwood at five under par, Sam Burns and JJ Spahn
48:40
Speaker 9: at four under par, and Salt Lake's very own Tony
48:44
Speaker 9: Fenw who's not had much to speak of this year
48:47
Speaker 9: so far. Tony's at even par. He had a rough
48:51
Speaker 9: round today. He was plus two for his round today,
48:55
Speaker 9: so he's at plus two even in eight shots back.
48:58
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49:07
Speaker 9: we have been talking about the college Football Playoff, which
49:11
Speaker 9: is great. We love it twelve teams, but it's not
49:14
Speaker 9: going to be twelve teams forever.
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Speaker 5: That much.
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Speaker 9: We know it's going to be changing because times they
49:19
Speaker 9: are at change. The only certainty in life is change.
49:24
Speaker 9: I'll stop with those now. I've been asking you, guys,
49:26
Speaker 9: which format you like the best, Which format you would
49:29
Speaker 9: like to see college football move to next? If you
49:33
Speaker 9: had your druthers eight seven seven three five three zero
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Speaker 9: seven hundred, get you in and on board today. This
49:42
Speaker 9: text message says Bill. People always say the FCS format
49:45
Speaker 9: is perfect, but it ends up being a lot of
49:48
Speaker 9: blowouts in the first round. Sewn mentioned the other week
49:50
Speaker 9: the SEC might be against twenty four teams because the
49:54
Speaker 9: ratings suck for the EARLYFCS rounds and they don't want
49:58
Speaker 9: to repeat of that. I don't know that that why
50:00
Speaker 9: they would necessarily be against it. They are partners with ESPN.
50:05
Speaker 9: ESPN would be against it because they have a monopoly
50:09
Speaker 9: on the college football playoff right now, and if it
50:12
Speaker 9: expanded to sixteen, maybe even twenty four, for sure, ESPN
50:17
Speaker 9: wouldn't be able to keep it all for themselves. And
50:19
Speaker 9: I think the SEC in some ways might be being
50:22
Speaker 9: good partners right there. Text message thirty eight sixty nine says,
50:27
Speaker 9: hey Bill, Indiana success seems actually achievable for a program
50:32
Speaker 9: like Utah.
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Speaker 5: Do you see that as a possibility?
50:34
Speaker 7: Ever?
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, Utah is in the mix. You have to have
50:39
Speaker 9: a number of things all come together for you. You
50:43
Speaker 9: have to have good leadership, good coaching, good support, good finances.
50:48
Speaker 5: Utah has all of that. So yes, Indiana is.
50:57
Speaker 9: Don't expect to see in Indiana every single year, but
50:59
Speaker 9: in Indiana is a blueprint for what non traditional blue
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Speaker 9: blood programs can do when everything comes together at the
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Speaker 9: right time. Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
51:13
Speaker 9: Text message eighty five twenty six, Hey Bill is there
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Speaker 9: hope for Utah basketball this year. Of course, there's hope.
51:23
Speaker 9: Go back to one of my favorite movies of all time,
51:26
Speaker 9: shosh Ank Redemption. What did Andy say to to red
51:30
Speaker 9: Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things,
51:34
Speaker 9: and no good thing ever, dies, Utah basketball is going
51:37
Speaker 9: to be a lot better this year. It was a
51:39
Speaker 9: rough first year for Alex Jensen, no doubt about it.
51:43
Speaker 9: There's no sugarcoating two and sixteen in league play. They
51:46
Speaker 9: have done a very good job of retooling the roster.
51:52
Speaker 9: I'm not ready to sit here today and make some
51:54
Speaker 9: grand prediction of where they're going to finish or what
51:57
Speaker 9: their end of year results are going to be, but
51:58
Speaker 9: I'm going to tell you this right now. They will
52:00
Speaker 9: not be sixteenth in the Big Twelve this year. They
52:04
Speaker 9: will be markedly better and markedly more competitive every single night.
52:10
Speaker 9: The roster is not set in stone yet, but it's
52:13
Speaker 9: pretty set, and what they've been able to do right
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Speaker 9: now is improve it a great deal. They had a
52:18
Speaker 9: full year of seeing what it needed to be and
52:22
Speaker 9: roster building in construction with Alex and his staff and
52:25
Speaker 9: Wes Wilcox. So yes, there is hope for Utah basketball
52:30
Speaker 9: this year. We'll have more on that when we see
52:33
Speaker 9: what the final roster looks like. But I think they're
52:35
Speaker 9: going to be much better and much more competitive this year.
52:41
Speaker 9: Text message, Hey Bill, what do you see as the
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Speaker 9: future for bowl games outside of the playoff?
52:47
Speaker 5: Designated Bulls? That's from Bill? Thank you Bill.
52:51
Speaker 1: Great to have you fill in now and again, I
52:55
Speaker 1: have a pristine call seven hundred US T shirt you
52:57
Speaker 1: gave me when Real Salt Lake opened that stadium in Well.
53:00
Speaker 1: I'm glad you still have that. That is a collector's
53:03
Speaker 1: item of sorts. Wear it proudly, or at least display
53:08
Speaker 1: it proudly wherever it might be. That's a good question.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 9: I don't know what the long term future for bowl
53:15
Speaker 9: games are. I don't think that they will completely go away,
53:18
Speaker 9: because again, you're not going to not everybody's making the
53:24
Speaker 9: college football Playoff. But have the Bulls in recent years
53:28
Speaker 9: been lessened their importance and their interests? Yes, they have,
53:32
Speaker 9: They just they have. They're not the same as it
53:35
Speaker 9: was ten or fifteen, or twenty or thirty or forty
53:38
Speaker 9: years ago. Will all the Bulls continue to be in existence?
53:44
Speaker 9: I would be surprised if that happens. But I can't
53:47
Speaker 9: sit here today and tell you which bulls will stay
53:49
Speaker 9: and which bulls will go. But the importance of the
53:53
Speaker 9: bowl game, it just isn't what it used to be.
53:57
Speaker 9: Some bowl games are still great to go to, but
53:59
Speaker 9: some of the one as it used to be great
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Speaker 9: are just okay. So I don't think that they're all
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Speaker 9: going to go away, But the bowl games as we
54:09
Speaker 9: know them, what they have been and what they are now,
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Speaker 9: will probably likely change the same way the college football
54:14
Speaker 9: Playoff changes as well.
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Speaker 5: All Right, our one is done. It flew by.
54:19
Speaker 9: Thanks for your text messages. We'll read some more of
54:21
Speaker 9: those coming up an hour number two. I'll have a
54:23
Speaker 9: few Utah football questions for you as well to get
54:26
Speaker 9: into and some few thoughts on that. If you haven't
54:28
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54:33
Speaker 9: It comes out every Wednesday, occasionally, depending on a guest,
54:36
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54:39
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54:40
Speaker 9: these Utah football questions there on a weekend and week
54:43
Speaker 9: out basis, So we'll get to.
54:44
Speaker 5: Some of that coming up.
54:45
Speaker 9: Gordy's going to join us in the noontime hour as well,
54:48
Speaker 9: and then in the one o'clock hour, Sly will come
54:50
Speaker 9: by for a little Utah football and Big twelve Football
54:53
Speaker 9: talk and.
54:53
Speaker 5: Barcelo Baalbo as well.
54:55
Speaker 9: All on a Friday Shan O'Connell Show, Bill Riley sitting
54:57
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55:50
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Speaker 9: Denver Broncos outside linebacker Jonathan Cooper's been arrested on domesic
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56:29
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Speaker 9: fan base ever wants to see their star players deal with.
56:35
Speaker 9: Super Regional weekend in college baseball going on right now.
56:38
Speaker 9: The first of these super regionals, a Big Twelve team
56:41
Speaker 9: is hosting right now, the West Virginia Mountaineers in the
56:46
Speaker 9: seventh inning, leading Cal Poly the Mustangs eight to one
56:49
Speaker 9: in Morgantown. That's the first of the sixteen super regionals
56:54
Speaker 9: that are going on this weekend in college baseball. Another
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Speaker 9: Big Twelve school, my alma mater, hosting one beginning tomorrow.
57:00
Speaker 9: Borrow Kansas, which is one of the real surprise teams
57:03
Speaker 9: the last couple of years in college baseball, is hosting
57:05
Speaker 9: a Super Regional and Lawrence on Saturday, Sunday and perhaps Monday,
57:10
Speaker 9: depending on how the results go with that.
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Speaker 5: And a death today in the world of NASCAR.
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Speaker 9: Not an unexpected death like we had with Kyle Busch
57:20
Speaker 9: a couple of weeks ago, but Hall of Fame driver
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Speaker 9: Ned Jarrett died at age ninety three today. So Ned
57:28
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Speaker 9: an NFL note for you. It looks like the Bears
57:32
Speaker 9: are edging closer to their move to northwest Indiana. They
57:36
Speaker 9: had bought space up in Arlington Park, north of Chicago,
57:39
Speaker 9: and people thought they'd go in where the old racetrack was,
57:42
Speaker 9: but more and more, and apparently they took another step
57:44
Speaker 9: closer today to a perhaps a move to northwest Indiana. Somewhere,
57:51
Speaker 9: my good friend Steve Klouke is rolling his eyes and
57:55
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Speaker 5: Bears would consider a move to northwest Indiana.
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Speaker 9: ninety days until kickoff. Utah and Idaho kick things off
58:17
Speaker 9: ninety days from today at Riceycle Stadium at seven o'clock,
58:21
Speaker 9: which means pregame will begin here roughly at about three
58:24
Speaker 9: o'clock that afternoon. Two hours of ESPN seven hundred pro
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Speaker 9: pre game, two hours of me and my broadcast crew
58:32
Speaker 9: doing some pregame at rice Cycle Stadium before the Utes
58:36
Speaker 9: kick it off with the Idaho Vandals. I have talked
58:38
Speaker 9: a ton of Utah football on these airwaves over the years.
58:41
Speaker 9: I have talked a ton of Utah football with Spence
58:45
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58:48
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Speaker 5: I have talked a ton of Utah football.
58:53
Speaker 9: And I think, and I've said this before and I'll
58:56
Speaker 9: say it again, I am very bullish on this Utah
58:59
Speaker 9: football team this year. I believe Utah football will have
59:03
Speaker 9: a very good season this year. I think there's plenty
59:06
Speaker 9: of talent in place. I think that this is team
59:08
Speaker 9: is a nine to three, ten and two type of
59:10
Speaker 9: a football team. I say that because I think the
59:13
Speaker 9: schedule sets up very well. I think the coaching staff,
59:16
Speaker 9: the transition will be very smooth for Morgan Scalley and
59:19
Speaker 9: his team. And I think there's a lot of returning talent,
59:22
Speaker 9: especially on the offensive side, where you've got obviously you're
59:26
Speaker 9: starting quarterback, your backup quarterback, you're starting tailback, you've got
59:30
Speaker 9: an upgraded wide receiver. Room questions, Yet there are questions
59:33
Speaker 9: that still remain. I have been asking questions of you
59:37
Speaker 9: if you listen to the Crimson Corner and I'll throw
59:40
Speaker 9: a couple of you guys today regarding Utah football. The
59:44
Speaker 9: first question I asked on my podcast a week ago,
59:47
Speaker 9: and I'm asking one of these kind of type of
59:49
Speaker 9: questions every week leading up to the start of the season.
59:53
Speaker 9: The question that I asked a week ago was do
59:56
Speaker 9: you believe this is the year that Utah will have
59:59
Speaker 9: a one thousand yard wide receiver. The Utes have not
1:00:03
Speaker 9: had a one thousand yard wide receiver since a guy
1:00:05
Speaker 9: by the name of DRez Anderson did it thirteen years ago.
1:00:10
Speaker 9: Thirteen years ago. We've talked about it a lot. They
1:00:13
Speaker 9: came close one year when Darren Carrington was here for
1:00:16
Speaker 9: his one year from Oregon. But Darren came up just short.
1:00:21
Speaker 9: Had he played a full season, he probably would have gotten.
1:00:23
Speaker 5: It, but he didn't. So you tusk on thirteen years.
1:00:28
Speaker 9: They've got guys that are capable of doing it, Guys
1:00:31
Speaker 9: like Braydon Pagan, Guys like Kylie Sholes, Kyrie Sholes, Larry Simmons.
1:00:43
Speaker 9: Maybe there's a guy like Dadrin Zipper or Ricky Johnson,
1:00:46
Speaker 9: the kid transferring in Fossissippi State which he had bumpus.
1:00:51
Speaker 9: They've got an offensive coordinator that likes to take shots
1:00:53
Speaker 9: down the field Kevin mcgiven does, and they've got an
1:00:57
Speaker 9: experienced quarterback. Could this be the year Utah gets a
1:01:00
Speaker 9: one thousand yard wide receiver. Feel free to hit me
1:01:03
Speaker 9: up on the text line and tell me what you think.
1:01:09
Speaker 5: Then.
1:01:09
Speaker 9: This week on my podcast The Crimson Corner, which dropped
1:01:12
Speaker 9: the other day, special guest this week Clark Phillips, former
1:01:15
Speaker 9: University of Utah, All American Corner now Atlanta. Fal'm going
1:01:18
Speaker 9: to talk to Clark on my podcast this week. I
1:01:20
Speaker 9: also post the question not to Clark but to listeners
1:01:23
Speaker 9: as I will to you right now. Will Utah and
1:01:28
Speaker 9: that Utah defense have a double digit sack guy this year?
1:01:35
Speaker 9: They did a year ago? John Henry Daily. John Henry
1:01:38
Speaker 9: Daily was on his way. He was already an All American.
1:01:41
Speaker 9: He missed the last game and a half when he
1:01:42
Speaker 9: tore his achilles, but he had eleven and a half
1:01:44
Speaker 9: sacks last year in just ten and a half games.
1:01:50
Speaker 9: Two years before that, Jonah Ellis had twelve sacks. Go
1:01:55
Speaker 9: a little further back, Mika Tafua, Bradley and i U
1:02:00
Speaker 9: Toss had some guys, But do they have that guy
1:02:05
Speaker 9: this year? Is there a guy on that roster that
1:02:08
Speaker 9: will get Utah double digit sacks this year? Cash Dylon,
1:02:14
Speaker 9: young man from Corner Canyon High School, kind of began
1:02:19
Speaker 9: to really show some stuff. I remember last year you
1:02:22
Speaker 9: had John Henry Daily, you had Logan Fano. Those were
1:02:26
Speaker 9: two guys that were your starters. Everybody else like Lance
1:02:28
Speaker 9: holds Claw who's back who By the way, just did
1:02:31
Speaker 9: an amazing job in front of the Senate, in front
1:02:33
Speaker 9: of the House the other day, presenting on the on
1:02:36
Speaker 9: behalf of student athletes. In the question of a lot
1:02:39
Speaker 9: of college football questions that were up on Capitol Hill.
1:02:42
Speaker 9: Lance Holtz Claud did an amazing job. He's going to
1:02:44
Speaker 9: be probably one of your starters at corn end an edge.
1:02:49
Speaker 9: Cash Dylon. Probably that guy. Lance didn't have big sack numbers,
1:02:52
Speaker 9: had good pressure numbers, but again, he was in a
1:02:55
Speaker 9: backup role. Last year, he was in a reserve role,
1:02:57
Speaker 9: a rotational role. Wasn't a starter till the end of
1:02:59
Speaker 9: the same thing with Cash Dylan. But we saw some stuff.
1:03:04
Speaker 9: They're bringing a guy from North Texas who had a
1:03:07
Speaker 9: really good year, solid year, and had a really good
1:03:10
Speaker 9: spring Ethan Day. There might be some other guys in
1:03:14
Speaker 9: that rotation as well, But do you see Utah this
1:03:16
Speaker 9: year having a double digit sack guy. It's another Utah
1:03:21
Speaker 9: football question you can feel free to respond to. Of
1:03:23
Speaker 9: the text line at eight seven seven three five three
1:03:26
Speaker 9: zero seven hundred. They're good and interesting questions. Nobody's gonna
1:03:38
Speaker 9: know till it plays out. My answer to both of
1:03:44
Speaker 9: those questions, at least right now is probably no. On
1:03:51
Speaker 9: the wide receiver side of it. It's probably because of
1:03:54
Speaker 9: the depth of talent that's in that room. If Braden
1:03:59
Speaker 9: Pagan was the only guy there and then you had
1:04:01
Speaker 9: a bunch of just a bunch of jags, just a
1:04:03
Speaker 9: guy that's what jag means, just a guy, I'd say, Yeah,
1:04:06
Speaker 9: he's gonna be the guy that's targeted, But as I
1:04:09
Speaker 9: just highlighted, I think there's four or five wide receivers,
1:04:12
Speaker 9: plus you've got some tight ends like Hunter Andrews, and
1:04:18
Speaker 9: backs out of the backfield like way Shawn Parker and
1:04:22
Speaker 9: Daniel Bray who can all catch the football. I'm just
1:04:25
Speaker 9: not sure there's going to be enough receptions for anybody
1:04:29
Speaker 9: to quite get there. I think Brayden Pagan might have
1:04:31
Speaker 9: a year similar to what he had last year production
1:04:33
Speaker 9: wise at Utah State, which was really good. He was
1:04:36
Speaker 9: over nine hundred yards, just shy of a thousand, and
1:04:38
Speaker 9: I think he had five touchdowns. Kyrie Sholt same thing.
1:04:44
Speaker 9: He had a really good year last year at San
1:04:46
Speaker 9: Jose State, was over seven hundred yards. I'm just I
1:04:51
Speaker 9: just there's because there's so many guys and so many
1:04:54
Speaker 9: guys that can do things. I'm not sure if anybody's
1:04:57
Speaker 9: gonna get seventy five or eighty, and that's kind of
1:05:01
Speaker 9: the number.
1:05:02
Speaker 5: You've got to have. If you want to have a thousand, you.
1:05:04
Speaker 9: Got to be somewhere in that seventy to eighty catch
1:05:07
Speaker 9: range to get and I'm not sure if anybody will
1:05:09
Speaker 9: quite have that. So I think it'll be a very
1:05:12
Speaker 9: productive room this year, I think you'll and I you know,
1:05:17
Speaker 9: one of the other questions that will be asked on
1:05:18
Speaker 9: my podcast at some point in time is going to be,
1:05:21
Speaker 9: you know, does Devin dan Pierre throw for thirty four
1:05:25
Speaker 9: to thirty five hundred yards this year? Because when you
1:05:31
Speaker 9: have a deep wide receiver room five six, seven guys
1:05:39
Speaker 9: that can catch passes, you're gonna have to throw for
1:05:41
Speaker 9: a lot of yards for somebody to get a thousand.
1:05:44
Speaker 5: And we also know.
1:05:46
Speaker 9: That Morgan Scalley, much like his predecessor, believes in physicality
1:05:50
Speaker 9: and football, and they've got two really good, maybe three
1:05:53
Speaker 9: really good running backs. So a couple of questions for
1:06:00
Speaker 9: you to kind of sound off on today. But back
1:06:02
Speaker 9: to my point at the top, I think Utah is
1:06:04
Speaker 9: gonna have a really good year this year. As I've
1:06:07
Speaker 9: said on these airwaves, I think there's tiers of Big
1:06:09
Speaker 9: twelve football right now. I think Tier one of Utah
1:06:12
Speaker 9: have Big twelve Football includes Utah, BYU and Texas Tech.
1:06:16
Speaker 9: In fact, I think those three teams are pretty tightly grouped.
1:06:21
Speaker 9: I think those three teams go anywhere from about twelve
1:06:24
Speaker 9: to twenty. You can shake him up and put a
1:06:27
Speaker 9: Tech's got some questions but you know, as much as
1:06:29
Speaker 9: they have questions at quarterback, and they do because of
1:06:32
Speaker 9: the sourceby situation, they got a lot of talent. Their
1:06:38
Speaker 9: running back room might be the best running back room
1:06:40
Speaker 9: in college football. If the USC kid comes back healthy
1:06:43
Speaker 9: this year, with Williams and others, they're gonna be good.
1:06:54
Speaker 9: And I'm telling you Will Hammond is really good now.
1:06:58
Speaker 9: He's probably not gonna be ready to play. I don't
1:07:01
Speaker 9: think all the reports coming out of Lubbock say second
1:07:04
Speaker 9: third game he's probably back, maybe fourth game. He might
1:07:07
Speaker 9: miss two or three games as he rehabs that knee.
1:07:10
Speaker 9: But Utah fans got a real good look at Will
1:07:12
Speaker 9: Hammond last year and what he could do. He was
1:07:13
Speaker 9: the reason why Texas Tech beat Utah last year. It
1:07:16
Speaker 9: was not Baron Morton. Baron Morton was not having a
1:07:19
Speaker 9: good game. Utah's defense was right there and then Will
1:07:24
Speaker 9: Hammond used his legs in a little bit of his arm.
1:07:27
Speaker 9: And I think that Utah defense got a little tired
1:07:29
Speaker 9: in the fourth quarter last year because the offense was
1:07:31
Speaker 9: pretty ineffective in that game. So be interesting to see
1:07:37
Speaker 9: and BYU is gonna be good again too. Baron Bachmeyer, L. J.
1:07:41
Speaker 9: Martin My big questions for BYU are loss of j Hill.
1:07:47
Speaker 9: Jay Hill we know was very important to what they
1:07:49
Speaker 9: did defensively. It'll be first time for Kelly Pepinga calling
1:07:54
Speaker 9: a defense though he's been on that staff, but Jay
1:07:57
Speaker 9: Hill was a big part of it. And who are
1:08:01
Speaker 9: the playmakers in the past game. You lost Chase Roberts
1:08:06
Speaker 9: to the NFL. You lost Cody Hagen to medical retirement
1:08:12
Speaker 9: a week or two ago, and then obviously we know
1:08:16
Speaker 9: what's going on with the other wide receiver, who's dealing
1:08:18
Speaker 9: with off field legal issues, who are the pass catchers,
1:08:22
Speaker 9: who helps bear Bachmeyer? And obviously the guy that was
1:08:24
Speaker 9: a big part of it last year to Carson, Ryan's
1:08:26
Speaker 9: gone now too tight end, so who become those weapons
1:08:29
Speaker 9: for him?
1:08:30
Speaker 5: We know that LJ.
1:08:31
Speaker 9: Martin can run it and bear Bachmeyer is a good
1:08:33
Speaker 9: weapon too, but those were three pretty big parts of
1:08:37
Speaker 9: what they did last year.
1:08:37
Speaker 5: In the past game.
1:08:41
Speaker 9: But I think that top tier is definitively for me,
1:08:44
Speaker 9: Texas Tech, BYU, and Utah. That second tier, they're not
1:08:48
Speaker 9: far behind Houston, Arizona and TCU, and Utah sees all
1:08:54
Speaker 9: three of those schools, two of them on the road,
1:08:59
Speaker 9: two of them back to back. You see Arizona and
1:09:03
Speaker 9: TCU back to back in November. So I think the
1:09:08
Speaker 9: league's gonna be really good. But I like Utah's chances,
1:09:14
Speaker 9: but I think it could be one of those years.
1:09:16
Speaker 9: Although I will say this Texas Tech schedule might be
1:09:20
Speaker 9: the easiest schedule of any of the top five or
1:09:22
Speaker 9: six teams in the league. They don't have to play
1:09:24
Speaker 9: Utah or BYU in the regular season, so we'll see
1:09:30
Speaker 9: what happens. We'll talk more about that when Slide joins US.
1:09:33
Speaker 9: Coming up in a bit here on the program eight
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Speaker 9: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred text line
1:09:38
Speaker 9: to join the program today. Charles says, hey Bill, conference
1:09:41
Speaker 9: championship games are useless and as often as they're or not,
1:09:46
Speaker 9: they're rematches from the regular season. I say, expand to
1:09:50
Speaker 9: twenty four teams, get rid of well, he says, expand
1:09:54
Speaker 9: to twenty fourteen teams.
1:09:56
Speaker 5: That would be a lot.
1:09:58
Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure you mean twenty Charles, and get rid
1:10:01
Speaker 9: of the league championship games. If they go to twenty four,
1:10:04
Speaker 9: they're the league championship games will likely go bye bye.
1:10:10
Speaker 9: Texter seventy six oh six says, hey Bill, sixteen is
1:10:16
Speaker 9: the best format anytime the SEC and Big ten are
1:10:21
Speaker 9: demanding that they have to have automatic bids only shows
1:10:24
Speaker 9: how elitist they consider themselves to be. With sixteen, nobody
1:10:29
Speaker 9: gets a buy, but with twenty four teams, the top
1:10:32
Speaker 9: eight teams get those buys.
1:10:34
Speaker 5: I agree.
1:10:36
Speaker 1: I like.
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Speaker 9: That's why I like sixteen. Text message, Hey Bill, great show.
1:10:44
Speaker 9: Any chance you could give some tips on smoking a
1:10:46
Speaker 9: brisket rn V? Of course I could.
1:10:49
Speaker 5: I don't have time for that.
1:10:51
Speaker 9: But the key to smoking a brisket is low temperature,
1:10:55
Speaker 9: in time, low and slow. You know that two smoke
1:11:01
Speaker 9: it for probably two or three hours at about one
1:11:03
Speaker 9: hundred and eighty degrees and then cook it for about
1:11:07
Speaker 9: I don't know, another seven to ten, depending on the
1:11:09
Speaker 9: size of the brisket. At about two twenty five, and
1:11:13
Speaker 9: somewhere in near the end, foil it up a little bit.
1:11:17
Speaker 9: You want to put it in that foil for maybe
1:11:19
Speaker 9: an hour or two, and then the last hour or
1:11:23
Speaker 9: so take that foil off. Thanks for the text message
1:11:29
Speaker 9: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred, Hey Bill,
1:11:33
Speaker 9: I'm wondering about how Utah's defensive line is looking this
1:11:36
Speaker 9: year with both John Henry Daily and Logan Fano both leaving.
1:11:39
Speaker 9: That's one of my questions. That's why I was bringing
1:11:41
Speaker 9: that up earlier about the double digit sack. I like
1:11:45
Speaker 9: Cash Dylan, and I like Lance holds Claw and I
1:11:49
Speaker 9: like Ethan Day as well.
1:11:50
Speaker 5: Ethan Day.
1:11:52
Speaker 9: He had a really good spring every practice I went
1:11:54
Speaker 9: out to, I felt like Ethan Day was making plays.
1:11:57
Speaker 9: Day makes plays. But what will the production look like
1:12:05
Speaker 9: because in recent years they've always had that kind of
1:12:07
Speaker 9: one proven guy coming back, if that makes sense. Like
1:12:11
Speaker 9: last year, Logan Fano was coming back off injury, but
1:12:14
Speaker 9: he was a little bit of a proven commodity, and
1:12:16
Speaker 9: then John Henry Daily just popped. Paul Fitzgerald's another guy
1:12:24
Speaker 9: to keep an eye on too. I didn't mention Paul,
1:12:26
Speaker 9: but Paul's a guy that he was hurt most of
1:12:29
Speaker 9: last year too, and I think he could be a
1:12:30
Speaker 9: guy that comes back and gets in that mix.
1:12:32
Speaker 5: I think they've got good depth.
1:12:34
Speaker 9: My question, and why I post it to you guys,
1:12:36
Speaker 9: is do they have that one dude that's going to
1:12:39
Speaker 9: be that double digitude. Maybe they've got four guys they
1:12:42
Speaker 9: get between six and eight six and nine sacks, and
1:12:44
Speaker 9: that would be good production too. Text message from Derek says, Hey, Bill,
1:12:56
Speaker 9: you're the GM of the jazz. What do you do
1:12:59
Speaker 9: with number two? With what we know about the jazz. Well,
1:13:03
Speaker 9: I'm assuming we're standing pat right. I'm going to assume
1:13:09
Speaker 9: aj Debonsa goes first to the Washington Wizards. I'm taking
1:13:15
Speaker 9: Darren Peterson second, assuming the medicals all checkout, assuming that
1:13:19
Speaker 9: he's okay medically, that he doesn't od on creatam like
1:13:23
Speaker 9: he said he did when he was at Kansas, which
1:13:25
Speaker 9: again story still feels a little weird to me.
1:13:29
Speaker 5: It just does.
1:13:30
Speaker 9: But whatever, Assuming the medicals checkout, I'm taking Darren Peterson
1:13:37
Speaker 9: and putting him next to Keyante George. And you've got
1:13:39
Speaker 9: a ball in hand guy that is an elite creator scorer.
1:13:44
Speaker 9: He's six foot six. He can play ball in hand
1:13:47
Speaker 9: and be a playmaker at times, but he can get
1:13:50
Speaker 9: his shot off. He's got an NBA shot. He's six
1:13:52
Speaker 9: foot six. He can get to the basket, get to
1:13:55
Speaker 9: the rim. To me, with the front court you have
1:13:59
Speaker 9: of Jared Jack and Lowry Markinen, you have Keyante George,
1:14:05
Speaker 9: who's been in that system, I think Peterson would be
1:14:08
Speaker 9: a natural fit there.
1:14:09
Speaker 5: We'll talk to Gordy about that.
1:14:11
Speaker 9: I know there's been a lot of Caleb Wilson love
1:14:13
Speaker 9: in recent weeks from some of the stuff that I've read.
1:14:18
Speaker 9: But in a in a guard league and you've got
1:14:22
Speaker 9: a guy that's a legit six five sixty six, who's bouncy,
1:14:25
Speaker 9: who's a playmaker, who can really shoot it, that's the
1:14:30
Speaker 9: direction I would go in. I'm not sure where you
1:14:35
Speaker 9: guys feel about it, what you feel. I know a
1:14:37
Speaker 9: lot of people in the market love Ajda Bonson rightfully,
1:14:39
Speaker 9: so aj is a great player. I just don't feel
1:14:43
Speaker 9: like aj is going to be there for the Utah Jazz,
1:14:46
Speaker 9: if that makes sense. Eight seven seven three five three
1:14:50
Speaker 9: zero seven hundred. To get you in and on board
1:14:52
Speaker 9: today here on Utah's number one sports talk ESPN seven hundred,
1:14:58
Speaker 9: we'll talk a little bit about the Jazz and the
1:15:00
Speaker 9: draft and game two tonight, which you'll be able to
1:15:04
Speaker 9: hear right here on ESPN seven hundred. Between the Knicks
1:15:09
Speaker 9: and the Spurs. I'm just telling you right now, the
1:15:11
Speaker 9: Knicks are an absolute machine.
1:15:13
Speaker 5: Right now.
1:15:14
Speaker 6: They are.
1:15:15
Speaker 5: They have twelve straight wins.
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Speaker 6: Here.
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Speaker 9: I'm gonna drop this because Gordy loves facts. I'm actually
1:15:20
Speaker 9: I'm gonna I'm gonna save this, but they have twelve
1:15:23
Speaker 9: straight wins. And here's the crazy thing. I told Spence
1:15:27
Speaker 9: this the other day when I was on with him
1:15:29
Speaker 9: before Game one. Never in my life if I ever
1:15:32
Speaker 9: rooted for the New York Knicks. I don't think I've
1:15:34
Speaker 9: ever really rooted for any New York team in general.
1:15:36
Speaker 9: I just not from there, that big city thing. I
1:15:41
Speaker 9: like this Knicks team. I like Jalen Brunson. I like
1:15:45
Speaker 9: Mike Brown, their coach. I like Josh Hart, I like
1:15:51
Speaker 9: og Ananobi. Karl Anthony Towns always felt like a kind
1:15:54
Speaker 9: of a goofball big man who just liked to shoot threes,
1:15:58
Speaker 9: and he still is kind of that. I just think
1:16:00
Speaker 9: the pieces fit so very well with this next team.
1:16:05
Speaker 9: And I don't know what it is about this Spurs team,
1:16:09
Speaker 9: but they kind of I don't. I don't find them
1:16:11
Speaker 9: like a likable group.
1:16:13
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know what it is. I'm not anti.
1:16:17
Speaker 9: I've always kind of liked the Spurs in general, but
1:16:19
Speaker 9: there's something about this team that I don't. I'm not
1:16:22
Speaker 9: drawn to them the way I'm drawn to this next team.
1:16:27
Speaker 9: Maybe there's just something about Jalen Brunson, the little guy
1:16:30
Speaker 9: in real life.
1:16:31
Speaker 5: He's not a little guy.
1:16:32
Speaker 9: If you saw him walking down the street, he would
1:16:34
Speaker 9: look like a relatively bigger guy, but out there he
1:16:37
Speaker 9: just But there's just a toughness about Jalen Brunson that
1:16:40
Speaker 9: I really like. And I like the way this Knicks
1:16:43
Speaker 9: team plays. They play hard and they don't if Brunson's
1:16:48
Speaker 9: their best player. Jalen Brunson is probably what a top
1:16:53
Speaker 9: from a talent standpoint, a top ten fifteen player in
1:16:57
Speaker 9: the league. Yet he's leading them in this group Karl
1:17:03
Speaker 9: Anthony Towns their second best player. Is Karl Anthony Town's
1:17:07
Speaker 9: a top twenty player in the league. Maybe og Ananobe
1:17:12
Speaker 9: is a really nice piece, Josh Hart. I just I
1:17:16
Speaker 9: like the way this team has been put together and
1:17:18
Speaker 9: I like the way they play. And that's weird for
1:17:22
Speaker 9: me to say because I'm not a Knicks fan. But
1:17:25
Speaker 9: they're fun to watch and I like their togetherness. And
1:17:28
Speaker 9: there's again I'm not a fan of the San Antonio
1:17:31
Speaker 9: team for whatever reason. I don't find them likable. So
1:17:35
Speaker 9: we'll talk to Gordy about that and the draft and
1:17:38
Speaker 9: more coming up here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
1:17:41
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1:17:42
Speaker 9: Up on the text line feel free to do it
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Speaker 5: Peace Out.
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Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordon gas He's forgotten more about the
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Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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Speaker 5: Let's not get crazy.
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Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
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Speaker 2: the day my list Today, here's oc with basketball savant
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Speaker 2: Gordon Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 9: Well, I can't fill in for Sean or Spence and
1:18:20
Speaker 9: not have my good friend of so many years on
1:18:23
Speaker 9: to talk some ball.
1:18:24
Speaker 5: And especially when we're.
1:18:26
Speaker 9: In the midst of the NBA Finals and a couple
1:18:28
Speaker 9: of weeks out from the NBA Draft, which could be
1:18:30
Speaker 9: as important an NBA draft as the Jazz have had
1:18:33
Speaker 9: in decades. That means it's time to bring on the
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Speaker 9: basketball savant, the Mike Brown to my Jalen Brunson, my coach,
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Speaker 9: Gordon Chiasa.
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Speaker 5: How are you, Gordy Bill?
1:18:47
Speaker 3: I'm doing well? Thank you?
1:18:48
Speaker 5: Are you doing as well?
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Speaker 9: As the New York Knickerbockers are doing right now, Gordy,
1:18:52
Speaker 9: because they are doing historically well right now. Can I
1:18:55
Speaker 9: drop a Can I drop a factoid on you that
1:18:58
Speaker 9: maybe you know or maybe you do not know? Yeah,
1:19:01
Speaker 9: please do, because I know you love a good fact
1:19:03
Speaker 9: almost as much as you love a list, Gordy. The
1:19:06
Speaker 9: Knicks are a machine right now. As you know, they've
1:19:08
Speaker 9: won twelve straight games. They've won these twelve straight games
1:19:13
Speaker 9: by outscoring their opponents by two hundred and seventy two points.
1:19:16
Speaker 3: Did you know that, Yes I did, which is historical.
1:19:21
Speaker 9: It is the best twelve game stretch in NBA history,
1:19:25
Speaker 9: not just NBA playoff history, Gordy, NBA history.
1:19:30
Speaker 5: That's amazing.
1:19:31
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Also add to that, as far as Calenter,
1:19:34
Speaker 3: it's in forty one days, and Bill, the last time
1:19:37
Speaker 3: in Knicks loss was the first day of the NFL
1:19:42
Speaker 3: draft of this year, which shows you in context, it's
1:19:45
Speaker 3: a long time and that funness. As far as being
1:19:49
Speaker 3: a New York Knickerbocker or whether now now go tonight
1:19:54
Speaker 3: game two, we'll see.
1:19:56
Speaker 9: We were both younger men the last time that the
1:19:59
Speaker 9: Knickerbockers low, but gladly we are still both around to
1:20:02
Speaker 9: talk about Game two tonight. What is it about what
1:20:05
Speaker 9: they're doing right now? Or we'll talk about game two
1:20:06
Speaker 9: in a minute. What is it about this this Knicks team?
1:20:09
Speaker 9: And I said this, I've never in my life rooted
1:20:13
Speaker 9: for the New York Knicks in anything. I've never found
1:20:15
Speaker 9: them just not my thing, not my team. I am
1:20:19
Speaker 9: rooting for this team. There's something about this team that
1:20:22
Speaker 9: I'm drawn to. What is it that they that's come
1:20:26
Speaker 9: all together for this team and they're on this historic
1:20:28
Speaker 9: run right now.
1:20:31
Speaker 3: There's the joy of playing that they're passing the ball,
1:20:35
Speaker 3: and they're playing help the helper defense, and all the
1:20:38
Speaker 3: roles are defined and off the bench catalysts. Those guys
1:20:42
Speaker 3: come in the game and they actually really enhance what's
1:20:46
Speaker 3: going on. And so they're truly a unit. And there's
1:20:50
Speaker 3: a joyfulness of playing around their star players and everyone
1:20:54
Speaker 3: is bought into the system. And that's why it's so
1:20:56
Speaker 3: much fun to be a Knicks fan right now.
1:21:01
Speaker 9: There is just a you can tell when teams are
1:21:04
Speaker 9: enjoying themselves and having fun, and this team really feels
1:21:07
Speaker 9: like that.
1:21:07
Speaker 5: And this is a team effort too.
1:21:09
Speaker 9: Jalen Brunson is fantastic, But I don't know that you
1:21:12
Speaker 9: would call him one of the ten best players in
1:21:15
Speaker 9: the league.
1:21:16
Speaker 5: I mean, he's playing like that, But I don't know if.
1:21:18
Speaker 9: If you were picking teams, if you would be one
1:21:21
Speaker 9: of your first ten taken, who's their second best player?
1:21:23
Speaker 9: Is it Karl Anthony Towns? Is it og Ananobi? I mean,
1:21:27
Speaker 9: is it Michel Bridges? I mean you go down that list.
1:21:31
Speaker 9: Most championship teams, Gordy, have two of the best ten
1:21:35
Speaker 9: players in the league, or at least one of the
1:21:37
Speaker 9: best two or three players in the league.
1:21:39
Speaker 5: This Knicks team doesn't fit that, but they do fit
1:21:42
Speaker 5: the definition.
1:21:42
Speaker 3: Of a team, yeah, very much. The second best players,
1:21:46
Speaker 3: calls any Towns mas some So interesting is that he
1:21:50
Speaker 3: with Minnesota, he was the top dog and was a
1:21:53
Speaker 3: roof on defense and other intangibles. Once with the nick Obockers,
1:21:58
Speaker 3: and recently the last year or so, when Jalen Brunson
1:22:02
Speaker 3: has establed himself as an absolutely one man recond crew
1:22:06
Speaker 3: and closer, Confrey Towns has really made that evolution as
1:22:11
Speaker 3: a player that became even more impactful by accepting his
1:22:15
Speaker 3: role as the second best player on the team. And
1:22:18
Speaker 3: now he excels in it. And so again he's a
1:22:21
Speaker 3: double double player, meaning roughly twenty points a game and
1:22:26
Speaker 3: ten rebounds. And now his defense has gotten dramatically better.
1:22:30
Speaker 3: And the most recent thing right now in this series
1:22:32
Speaker 3: is that he's accepted the challenge of trying to slow
1:22:35
Speaker 3: down Victor Rembim in Game one, he did, so the
1:22:39
Speaker 3: players accept their role. We left that also Josh Hart,
1:22:42
Speaker 3: Josh Hart is a tremendous I call him he's hot
1:22:46
Speaker 3: and sold the knickerbockers. I call him mix it, mix
1:22:50
Speaker 3: it up a lot. In the lane, He's always doing
1:22:53
Speaker 3: something he can rebound his position. He's a lunch pale player,
1:22:57
Speaker 3: very similar also that Oj and Anobi. And he's a
1:23:01
Speaker 3: guy that most times outperforms his opposition by this hustle plays.
1:23:08
Speaker 3: But he makes to open jump shots and he makes
1:23:10
Speaker 3: so many different intangible things that are only winning players
1:23:14
Speaker 3: that do.
1:23:14
Speaker 9: He's a non box score player. You cannot look at
1:23:17
Speaker 9: the box score and see Josh Hart's impact on the game,
1:23:20
Speaker 9: can you.
1:23:21
Speaker 7: No?
1:23:21
Speaker 3: You cannot.
1:23:22
Speaker 7: No.
1:23:22
Speaker 3: It's really unsun and it's that screening action loose ball.
1:23:26
Speaker 3: It's that of stunting on defense to hold up the shooter.
1:23:31
Speaker 3: It's running back and trying to get a back tip.
1:23:33
Speaker 3: He's all the things that winning players have and they
1:23:37
Speaker 3: have to be valued. And then in the prism of
1:23:39
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals, you see how it's more glaring, and
1:23:43
Speaker 3: that you know, the finals state and the finals, a
1:23:47
Speaker 3: phenomena happens. You can get exposure or you get exposed.
1:23:51
Speaker 3: And Nikoboker's right now to from one through nine on
1:23:54
Speaker 3: the roster, they're absolutely getting exposure.
1:23:56
Speaker 9: Well, they also have a group of guys that you
1:23:59
Speaker 9: have to have. I think Shack refers to these guys
1:24:02
Speaker 9: as the others. You have to have a group of
1:24:05
Speaker 9: others who have to be selfless, even maybe more so
1:24:08
Speaker 9: than a guy like Josh Hart. Is a guy like
1:24:10
Speaker 9: a Landry Shaman who made a bunch of big shots
1:24:13
Speaker 9: the other night. Mitchell Robinson is playing with the broken finger.
1:24:16
Speaker 9: Jordan Clarkson, Jose Alvarado, these guys are all very key
1:24:20
Speaker 9: to them getting it done.
1:24:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. Also at that Miles mcbright defensively and
1:24:26
Speaker 3: offensively is the nick bench right now is played sensational energy.
1:24:31
Speaker 3: There are energy sparkers that come into the game. They
1:24:34
Speaker 3: make hustle plays, and how do.
1:24:35
Speaker 6: You do that?
1:24:36
Speaker 3: I call velocity baskets and velocity steals. And I call
1:24:40
Speaker 3: they make a lot of U turn place where they
1:24:43
Speaker 3: turned around the possession where s many things happened, They
1:24:47
Speaker 3: get a steal or timely three, he turns around the
1:24:51
Speaker 3: fate of the of the possession and also the most
1:24:54
Speaker 3: recent pass of the game, and that's when they really perform,
1:24:57
Speaker 3: and they're going to a good drop throughout the whole
1:25:00
Speaker 3: run by the Nikobockers. And then game one they out
1:25:03
Speaker 3: play dramatically the Spurs bench.
1:25:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, now let's be fair here.
1:25:08
Speaker 9: The Spurs played arguably one of their worst games of
1:25:11
Speaker 9: the playoffs the other night if they lose by ten
1:25:13
Speaker 9: one oh five ninety five, but they didn't play and
1:25:16
Speaker 9: give credit to for the next I mean the next
1:25:18
Speaker 9: played a role in that. But when Ben Yama six
1:25:21
Speaker 9: for twenty one in that game, he did not play well.
1:25:24
Speaker 9: Darren Fox didn't have a great game the other night.
1:25:27
Speaker 9: So a few shots go here and there and maybe
1:25:30
Speaker 9: it's a little bit different outcome, but it didn't. But
1:25:32
Speaker 9: I want to ask you about Wehn bin Yama because
1:25:35
Speaker 9: we've been very quick to annoying him the best player
1:25:37
Speaker 9: in the NBA, and he's certainly going to get there
1:25:40
Speaker 9: at some point in time. But guess my question for
1:25:42
Speaker 9: you would be, he'll he'll look very dominant in games
1:25:45
Speaker 9: and in stretches of games, and then we'll also see
1:25:48
Speaker 9: him fade and disappear or make bad decisions on the
1:25:51
Speaker 9: offensive end. What do you want to see different from
1:25:54
Speaker 9: Victor Victor wen Binyama over the next couple of games
1:25:57
Speaker 9: if the Spurs are going to win this series, to
1:26:00
Speaker 9: get more in.
1:26:00
Speaker 3: The paint as far as shooting, So the last game
1:26:03
Speaker 3: is shoots six for twenty one, only nineus twenty one
1:26:07
Speaker 3: shots was in the paint. It was only forty three percent.
1:26:10
Speaker 3: So in the regular season when we all saw what
1:26:14
Speaker 3: he could do. And also the first round of the
1:26:15
Speaker 3: playoffs is shooting percentage as far as attempts in the
1:26:19
Speaker 3: lane with fifty eight percent, So Nickerbockers are forcing him
1:26:23
Speaker 3: away from his natural position, which is why inside outside
1:26:27
Speaker 3: versus only outside outside. Just be more determined to what
1:26:32
Speaker 3: get into the painted area. Now, as far as how
1:26:35
Speaker 3: do you do it thematically, if I'm this Spurs, I'll
1:26:38
Speaker 3: be very conscious of running more pick and rolls where
1:26:41
Speaker 3: it forces him to watch unless you're right over that throwback,
1:26:44
Speaker 3: jump shot to screen and roll into the lane on
1:26:48
Speaker 3: a velocity cut to make the player who's going to
1:26:52
Speaker 3: try to tag him, who's much smaller, take them on
1:26:55
Speaker 3: if the coverage and it recovers on it. As far
1:26:58
Speaker 3: as initial defender, they had a chance to watch get
1:27:01
Speaker 3: an automatic post up in the docks. And that's what
1:27:04
Speaker 3: he's got to try to do is force his self,
1:27:06
Speaker 3: not his body, because his body is only lanky. But
1:27:09
Speaker 3: he's got to have the mindset of getting more pain
1:27:12
Speaker 3: touches inside. The next lest next part about that is
1:27:15
Speaker 3: that less dribbling. He gets in trouble when he dribbles
1:27:19
Speaker 3: the ball way too much. And so if I'm him,
1:27:22
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to be more if I'm gonna
1:27:25
Speaker 3: be outside, I mean, is they're going to shoot, pass
1:27:28
Speaker 3: it or drive it versus what drible it?
1:27:31
Speaker 5: Are the Knicks happy with him taking nine threes?
1:27:34
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, they're static, very much because that makes their
1:27:38
Speaker 3: defense more now solid, less compromise. When he rolls to
1:27:42
Speaker 3: the basket, the defense is compromised. And that's what's so
1:27:46
Speaker 3: important about and that offensively for the Spurs right now,
1:27:50
Speaker 3: you've got to get him more involved as far as
1:27:54
Speaker 3: getting into the painted area. Again, it's it's body. Flame
1:27:58
Speaker 3: doesn't dictate that, but he's will he has to try
1:28:01
Speaker 3: to do it right now, and that's wi help his
1:28:03
Speaker 3: team very much. And with the Spurs also is that
1:28:08
Speaker 3: they've got to be more patient either with him with themselves.
1:28:13
Speaker 3: So for example, at the eighty nine shots they took
1:28:15
Speaker 3: in Game one, I remember they're up fourteen points and
1:28:18
Speaker 3: the score was tied to start the fourth quarter, and
1:28:21
Speaker 3: then Knicks. The Knicks took over the last five minutes
1:28:24
Speaker 3: of that game, led by Jalen Brunson. But part of
1:28:26
Speaker 3: the reason why is that then at eighty nine shots
1:28:30
Speaker 3: that they took during the game, the Spurs only twelve
1:28:34
Speaker 3: of them when we're under seven seconds or less. So
1:28:38
Speaker 3: it's meant that just simply is that went beyond it.
1:28:41
Speaker 3: And all these teammates they panic as fall shooting. They
1:28:45
Speaker 3: shot way too early in the shot clock versus what
1:28:49
Speaker 3: proving it, driving it, swinging it, and then what being
1:28:53
Speaker 3: attack mode, And that's what thought they lost their lead
1:28:56
Speaker 3: has to Knixt won the game.
1:29:00
Speaker 5: Question.
1:29:01
Speaker 9: If you're the Spurs, Darren Fox has not been great
1:29:06
Speaker 9: this postseason. He had played thirty eight minutes the other night,
1:29:11
Speaker 9: gave you seven points and was zero for four from
1:29:15
Speaker 9: D three to thirteen shooting. Should we see less of
1:29:17
Speaker 9: Daron Fox and more of Dylan Harper?
1:29:19
Speaker 5: What do you think?
1:29:21
Speaker 3: Yes, very much, you know, more Dylan Harper. Harper's got
1:29:23
Speaker 3: a winning game, absolutely, and I'm much overreacting to the
1:29:28
Speaker 3: recent performance by Darren Fox. I'm playing Dylan Harper because
1:29:32
Speaker 3: he gives you much more defensively too. He makes more
1:29:35
Speaker 3: gritty plays well was an offense and defense, and he's
1:29:38
Speaker 3: willing to get into the painted area and get muddy.
1:29:42
Speaker 3: I'd call it where he forces the defense to body
1:29:45
Speaker 3: him and collapse on him. So again in game two,
1:29:49
Speaker 3: where it's a must win for the Spurs, I'm going
1:29:54
Speaker 3: more Dylan Harper. And as far as the must win,
1:29:57
Speaker 3: no team in the NBA Finals history has ever dropped
1:30:00
Speaker 3: the first two games at home and have won the
1:30:03
Speaker 3: NBA Championship. So just saying, if the Spurs do lose tonight, Bill,
1:30:09
Speaker 3: It's never been done before that loser of two games
1:30:13
Speaker 3: at home ever been champions Which is a must win
1:30:17
Speaker 3: urgency by the Spurs and so which means that there's
1:30:21
Speaker 3: no hard feelings. If the Spurs played Dylan Harper thirty
1:30:25
Speaker 3: two minutes a game, only play Fox eighteen minutes which
1:30:29
Speaker 3: is in personal.
1:30:30
Speaker 5: Which of these teams feels grittier to you?
1:30:34
Speaker 3: Knicks? I agree, yeah, Nicks. And it's all part of
1:30:38
Speaker 3: New York. You know, the greediness of New York. You
1:30:41
Speaker 3: know Bill Brooklyn, Queens.
1:30:42
Speaker 5: Bronx, but they play in midtown Manhattan.
1:30:46
Speaker 3: Though, Gordon, true, it's greeting the village though, but it's
1:30:53
Speaker 3: not greedy and Staten Allen, I agree with you, it's not.
1:30:55
Speaker 5: I don't think any of those guys are from New
1:30:58
Speaker 5: York though, are they?
1:30:59
Speaker 7: Just?
1:31:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's two guys that. Yeah, it's interesting, so many
1:31:02
Speaker 3: from New York. Is gonna winn, gonna win the championship.
1:31:06
Speaker 3: Jose Albarado is from went to Christ the King High School,
1:31:11
Speaker 3: and so he might so he might be he might
1:31:14
Speaker 3: be a champion. And also from from New York. Is
1:31:21
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think right here, there's some one on
1:31:23
Speaker 3: that team from New York. I'm thinking, one second, that's
1:31:26
Speaker 3: gonna be champions Champagne.
1:31:28
Speaker 5: Julian, Yeah, he went to Champions you.
1:31:31
Speaker 3: Under say as he went to Bishop Blackly in Brooklyn,
1:31:34
Speaker 3: which is Mark which is Mark Jackson School.
1:31:36
Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, uh, Gordon Jason with us here
1:31:39
Speaker 1: the coach on the Shadow Knado Show, Bill Riley sitting
1:31:42
Speaker 1: in today. All right, before we pivot to the draft
1:31:44
Speaker 1: for just a minute, who do you got tonight?
1:31:47
Speaker 3: Spurs hard four game to make it one one.
1:31:50
Speaker 5: One one, going back to the city, dot the city.
1:31:53
Speaker 3: On Monday night.
1:31:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, fair enough.
1:31:56
Speaker 3: It should be. It should be a really attribute a
1:31:58
Speaker 3: fascinating again, the playoffs, there's nothing like it, the intensity,
1:32:03
Speaker 3: the emotion. You've got to play forward. You cannot play backwards.
1:32:08
Speaker 3: If you missed a shot, a lay of a bunny,
1:32:10
Speaker 3: or you commit a bizofficial even though it's negative, you've
1:32:14
Speaker 3: got to get out of it mentally that next one
1:32:17
Speaker 3: or two steps. As far as running down the floor,
1:32:20
Speaker 3: you've got to mentally retrain your mind to the next
1:32:24
Speaker 3: play forward. That's all matters.
1:32:26
Speaker 9: One other thought, Gordy, this Knicks team feels to me
1:32:30
Speaker 9: like that Pistons team that won in what was it
1:32:33
Speaker 9: two thousand and four. They had a lot of good players,
1:32:36
Speaker 9: but not any really necessarily great players, and they played
1:32:39
Speaker 9: really good team basketball, and they were really gritty. Your
1:32:43
Speaker 9: guy Larry Brown's team, does that you get those kind
1:32:45
Speaker 9: of those zero four Pistons vibes from this team?
1:32:48
Speaker 3: I do yes, And you're describing there where the sum
1:32:52
Speaker 3: is greater than any of its individual parts, and that's
1:32:55
Speaker 3: a nicobockus right now. So really they truly are a team.
1:32:58
Speaker 3: It's so interesting, you know, in a sense where New
1:33:01
Speaker 3: Yorker LA it's always like showtime, et cetera, you know,
1:33:03
Speaker 3: as far as big things. But the nickabock is that
1:33:06
Speaker 3: this version of it is truly like a gritty unit,
1:33:12
Speaker 3: and it's led by their star players that are willing
1:33:14
Speaker 3: to dig in and they've all bought into it, and
1:33:17
Speaker 3: that's why it's it's really a fun story so far.
1:33:20
Speaker 9: Gordy Jason with us. Gord, we're eighteen days from the
1:33:23
Speaker 9: NBA Draft and the Jazz sit at number two. You've
1:33:26
Speaker 9: been talking to people, You've been watching tape, you have
1:33:28
Speaker 9: been grinding the Jazz at two. Somebody asked me earlier
1:33:33
Speaker 9: today if I was the GM, what I would do.
1:33:35
Speaker 9: I'm assuming aj Debonsi goes number one at two. Caleb
1:33:40
Speaker 9: Wilson's getting a lot of love and steam as of late.
1:33:43
Speaker 9: Darren Peterson still there. I have said that if all
1:33:46
Speaker 9: things are equal in the UH in the Bonsa goes
1:33:50
Speaker 9: first and Peterson's medicals check out. I'm taking him at
1:33:54
Speaker 9: number two to slot him in next to Keyante George
1:33:57
Speaker 9: to give them a big time NBA scoring combo guard.
1:34:01
Speaker 9: What say you if the Bonsa goes one, what do
1:34:03
Speaker 9: you do with the jazz at two?
1:34:06
Speaker 3: I'm taking I'm taking Darren Pearson also absolutely we love
1:34:10
Speaker 3: about him is he's the comparison that I've wrote about him.
1:34:14
Speaker 3: He reminds me of Ray Allen, he reminds me of
1:34:18
Speaker 3: Devin Booker of the Sons. He reminds me of Stephan
1:34:22
Speaker 3: Castle of the Spurs. And then yes, yea, he reminds
1:34:25
Speaker 3: me of Rip Hamilton. So that's who. He's a knocked down,
1:34:29
Speaker 3: unbelievable pure jump shooter with classic footwork. He's an uncanny driver.
1:34:34
Speaker 3: He got some wiry toughness. He's a foul generator, and
1:34:39
Speaker 3: he has that quick burst to the basket to get
1:34:41
Speaker 3: a shoulder by his defender. And he's he's enough point
1:34:45
Speaker 3: guard's skills. He could you know he's a guard. He's
1:34:48
Speaker 3: not a point guard. He's more of a true guard.
1:34:51
Speaker 3: But he can enter the ball and this guy defensively,
1:34:55
Speaker 3: he moves his feet and he can get after it
1:34:58
Speaker 3: and he least share it with the with Ku at
1:35:01
Speaker 3: one point four steals in the game, which is really good.
1:35:03
Speaker 3: So I love his game. I know there's been some
1:35:06
Speaker 3: awful to court things about him. I'm sure everyone's doing
1:35:09
Speaker 3: the intel and if they'll come to a decision about it,
1:35:12
Speaker 3: but I'm taking him at number two. But any hesitation,
1:35:16
Speaker 3: he should be an all star type player within two
1:35:22
Speaker 3: to four years. That's how talented he is.
1:35:26
Speaker 9: Have you heard any conversation that would have the Wizards
1:35:29
Speaker 9: taking Peterson one?
1:35:32
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, because Aja's number one. The top four
1:35:36
Speaker 3: guys are really absolutely incredible players as far as tunt wise,
1:35:40
Speaker 3: but AGA's number one very much. And it's also a fit.
1:35:45
Speaker 3: I know it sounds word it's saying because the Wizards
1:35:47
Speaker 3: see the Wizards. It's like they've been off everyone's radar screen.
1:35:51
Speaker 3: They've had seven straight losing seasons. You mention the Wizards,
1:35:54
Speaker 3: people start cringing. Those guys, know those tumps, et cetera,
1:35:58
Speaker 3: et cetera. But it hits the starting team if they
1:36:01
Speaker 3: drift a boncer and if everybody's head's on straight. So
1:36:05
Speaker 3: I know that it's an if. Is Trey Young dela
1:36:10
Speaker 3: a Calabali at two as a true guard the Booncer
1:36:14
Speaker 3: at small ford, Anthony Davis at power forward and vastly
1:36:18
Speaker 3: underrated Frenchman Alexander Saw. And then a six man should
1:36:23
Speaker 3: be Keishaun George as a six man and Trey Johnson.
1:36:27
Speaker 3: So that's really a better team that you can really
1:36:29
Speaker 3: think of. And so I actually fit so small forward
1:36:33
Speaker 3: the boncer being a small forward. It's a perfect talent
1:36:37
Speaker 3: which is high and the fit for the Witch is
1:36:39
Speaker 3: that they try to again go forward with their team.
1:36:43
Speaker 9: Okay, if the Boncer goes to who's your pick at three,
1:36:46
Speaker 9: Boozer or Wilson, because as I mentioned, Wilson's beginning to
1:36:50
Speaker 9: again this happens every year. There's a couple of guys
1:36:53
Speaker 9: that get a little shine, a little bit more than others,
1:36:55
Speaker 9: and Boozer feels like the most stable guy, but people
1:36:58
Speaker 9: sometimes look for the upside too, Wilson or Boozer.
1:37:02
Speaker 3: Boozer absolute, but we're talking to somebody. Boozer who's a
1:37:06
Speaker 3: rockets gibralter. As a young guy, he's an average twenty
1:37:09
Speaker 3: points and ten rebounds the game. As far as the
1:37:12
Speaker 3: rest of his creer, he's steady, and also he's really
1:37:15
Speaker 3: a tremendous passer and So this Bill this past year
1:37:18
Speaker 3: at Duke at a high level, he has one hundred
1:37:21
Speaker 3: and fifty seven assists and only ninety six turnovers. Are
1:37:24
Speaker 3: you kidding me? As far as hailing the ball? He
1:37:27
Speaker 3: knows how to play and that he gets his teammates better,
1:37:30
Speaker 3: so he hit the comp with him. He reminds me
1:37:32
Speaker 3: of Kevin Love when he was younger. He reminds me
1:37:36
Speaker 3: of al Hawfitt when he was younger. He reminds me
1:37:39
Speaker 3: the present tense Paulo ben Caarrow with the way he
1:37:42
Speaker 3: scores inside and the way he passes the ball. He
1:37:45
Speaker 3: reminds me of Alpha ron Chragoon of the Rockets. I
1:37:49
Speaker 3: love his game. There's no hesitation at all. He's going
1:37:52
Speaker 3: to be an All Star someday.
1:37:54
Speaker 9: NBA Draft eighteen days away, covered right here on ESPN
1:37:57
Speaker 9: seven hundred. It would not be a Gordy visit it
1:38:00
Speaker 9: with yours, truly. We began these lists more than a
1:38:02
Speaker 9: decade ago. So Gord, what do you got for me today?
1:38:06
Speaker 3: My list today? Bill is the most Korea points scored
1:38:11
Speaker 3: in the NBA Finals by the players, the most Korea
1:38:15
Speaker 3: points in the NBA Finals career, which means you have
1:38:18
Speaker 3: to be on a good team and being the finals
1:38:20
Speaker 3: many many times. Here we go, it's only a dozen,
1:38:23
Speaker 3: number twelve all time. Steph Curry scored nine and twenty
1:38:27
Speaker 3: eight tallies. Number eleven all time. Kobe Bryant scored nine
1:38:31
Speaker 3: thirty seven points. Number ten, Magic Johnson scored nine to
1:38:36
Speaker 3: seventy one, Number nine all time, John Havilchek one thousand
1:38:41
Speaker 3: and twenty, Number eight, Tommy Heinsen of the Celts one
1:38:45
Speaker 3: thousand and thirty five, Number seven, Sam Jones one thousand
1:38:50
Speaker 3: and one forty three, Number six, Bill Russell one thousand
1:38:55
Speaker 3: and one fifty one, Number five, Elgin Beala one thousand
1:38:59
Speaker 3: and one sixty one. Number four all time. Michael Jordan
1:39:04
Speaker 3: one thousand, one hundred and seventy six points in the
1:39:10
Speaker 3: finals for an average up thirty three points six points
1:39:14
Speaker 3: per game in the finals, which is outrageous. The best
1:39:17
Speaker 3: all time. Number three. Kareem abdul Jabal one thousand and
1:39:21
Speaker 3: three and seventeen points. Number two. He plays for the
1:39:25
Speaker 3: Lakers as we speak right now. He's been in ten
1:39:29
Speaker 3: NBA finals. Lebron James one thousand, five sixty two for
1:39:34
Speaker 3: an average up twenty eight point four points per game,
1:39:38
Speaker 3: and the number one player were all times to make
1:39:41
Speaker 3: points in the NBA Finals is Jerry west In. He
1:39:46
Speaker 3: was in nine NBA Finals where he lost eight of them,
1:39:49
Speaker 3: but it was not his fault. He scored one thousand,
1:39:53
Speaker 3: six hundred and seventy nine points, which comes to thirty
1:39:57
Speaker 3: point point five points per game. What about in jazz basketball,
1:40:01
Speaker 3: Cal Malone was in two NBA Finals for toilet of
1:40:06
Speaker 3: twelve games he's he tallied two to eighty three points
1:40:10
Speaker 3: call average in the NBA Finals twenty three point five
1:40:13
Speaker 3: points per game. So we're talking the elite of the
1:40:16
Speaker 3: elite of the NBA Finals. Michael Jordan was the all
1:40:19
Speaker 3: time greatest as far as points, as far as per game,
1:40:23
Speaker 3: thirty three point six. Bill, think about it. It's unimaginable.
1:40:27
Speaker 5: A lot of Lakers and a lot of Celtics on
1:40:29
Speaker 5: that list, Gordon.
1:40:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's hope that's someday. There be a lot
1:40:33
Speaker 3: of jazz guys that someday on that list.
1:40:34
Speaker 5: Also, Yeah, long ways off, but maybe we can hope. Gord.
1:40:37
Speaker 5: Great catching up with it. You have a great weekend,
1:40:39
Speaker 5: and I'll talk to you soon.
1:40:41
Speaker 3: Thanks, Bill, peace out.
1:40:42
Speaker 5: Peace out.
1:40:43
Speaker 9: Gordon Giayza with us here today on the Shan O'Connell show.
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1:41:21
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1:41:25
Speaker 9: some college football with us. Here on a Friday, Bill
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1:42:16
Speaker 9: hour left in the show today we'll have a little
1:42:18
Speaker 9: Utah football and Big twelve football talk with my good
1:42:21
Speaker 9: friend and broadcast partner Stevenson Sylvester in about five six
1:42:24
Speaker 9: minutes or so, and then Marcelo Balboa, longtime member of
1:42:28
Speaker 9: the US men's national team now a tremendous soccer broadcaster,
1:42:32
Speaker 9: will be in Chicago for the United States and Germany tomorrow.
1:42:36
Speaker 5: We'll join us. Coming up at the bottom of the hour.
1:42:38
Speaker 9: With the World Cup beginning a week from today for
1:42:41
Speaker 9: the US, it actually begins a week from yesterday. Overall
1:42:44
Speaker 9: begins on the eleventh. I think Mexico kicks things off
1:42:48
Speaker 9: down in Mexico. By the United States and Paraguay. We'll
1:42:51
Speaker 9: play at so Far next Friday. So anyway, the Man
1:42:56
Speaker 9: and the US Men in Germany tomorrow will be heard
1:42:58
Speaker 9: right here at twelve thirty on ESPN seven hundred. Final
1:43:02
Speaker 9: tune up before the World Cup begins, also going on
1:43:05
Speaker 9: right now. Time for a leaderboard update from the Memorial
1:43:07
Speaker 9: Jack's Tournament at Mierfield Village just outside of Columbus. You're
1:43:12
Speaker 9: round two leader in the clubhouse. Two of them in
1:43:14
Speaker 9: the clubhouse right now, at eight under par. Ryan Garrard
1:43:16
Speaker 9: and J. T. Poston. Poston's still on the course. He's
1:43:19
Speaker 9: six under today, He's eight under for the tournament. Ryan
1:43:22
Speaker 9: Garrard three under for the day, eight under for the tournament.
1:43:25
Speaker 9: He's in the clubhouse. Both those guys hold a two
1:43:28
Speaker 9: shot lead over Sam Burns at six under, Wyndham Clark
1:43:31
Speaker 9: at five under, Shane Lowry, the Steve Bartell lookalike at
1:43:36
Speaker 9: four under, JJ Spahn at four under, Justin Rose at
1:43:39
Speaker 9: four under, Tommy Fleetwood at four under par, as well
1:43:43
Speaker 9: Rory's at three under, Xander Schoffley at two under Utah's
1:43:47
Speaker 9: very owned Tony Fee. Now.
1:43:49
Speaker 1: Not a good day today for Tony. He was plus
1:43:51
Speaker 1: two for the day, even par for the tournament. As
1:43:54
Speaker 1: they play on just outside of Columbus at Miirfield Village
1:43:58
Speaker 1: at Jack's Tournament, the memorial one quick text message because well,
1:44:03
Speaker 1: thank you.
1:44:04
Speaker 9: I appreciate it. This one and from Texter forty two
1:44:08
Speaker 9: to thirty four. Hey Bill, so great to hear your
1:44:11
Speaker 9: voice again. Sean does a nice job, but it's just
1:44:13
Speaker 9: not the same. You're the reason this hardcore BYU fan
1:44:17
Speaker 9: listens to this station. I appreciate your thoughts and insights.
1:44:20
Speaker 9: Thanks for the coming back today go Koog's. Well, thank
1:44:23
Speaker 9: you for the kind word or words forty two thirty four.
1:44:28
Speaker 9: I also appreciate Sean letting me sit in, and James
1:44:31
Speaker 9: and Jackie having me back, and my boss is it
1:44:33
Speaker 9: to you allowing me to sit in from time to time?
1:44:36
Speaker 9: M yeah, I'll be back probably in a couple of
1:44:39
Speaker 9: weeks to do another show when Shawn either takes a
1:44:41
Speaker 9: little vacation or has to work away. But thank you
1:44:43
Speaker 9: guys for listening. And it's it's just a treat for
1:44:46
Speaker 9: me to be able to come back and sit in
1:44:48
Speaker 9: from time to time. I had a lot of sweat
1:44:50
Speaker 9: equity put me in sweat, little sweat equity and blood
1:44:54
Speaker 9: and tears in this place. I was here for twenty
1:44:57
Speaker 9: years so it's great that they they'll have me back
1:44:59
Speaker 9: from time the time, and in ninety days you'll hear
1:45:02
Speaker 9: me back here.
1:45:03
Speaker 5: Call it a football game.
1:45:04
Speaker 9: Ninety days from today, Utah and Idaho seven o'clock up
1:45:08
Speaker 9: at Rice Ecle Stadium.
1:45:09
Speaker 5: It's hard to believe. Right ninety days until the season
1:45:12
Speaker 5: kicks off.
1:45:13
Speaker 9: Inside of thirteen weeks, we'll talk a little Utah football
1:45:16
Speaker 9: coming up with our buddy Stevenson Sylvester. That'll be next
1:45:19
Speaker 9: right here on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
1:45:32
Speaker 2: Did you're attune to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
1:45:34
Speaker 2: Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
1:45:39
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1:45:40
Speaker 1: Final hour on a Friday for the Shan O'Connell Show.
1:45:44
Speaker 1: Bill Riley sitting in today for OC.
1:45:48
Speaker 9: Preview the World Cup coming up in about a half
1:45:50
Speaker 9: hour or so with Marcelo Balboa, former US men's national
1:45:53
Speaker 9: team member, broadcaster now us men playing Germany in Chicago tomorrow.
1:45:58
Speaker 9: Next Friday, the open up Old Cup action down. It's
1:46:01
Speaker 9: so FI against Paraguay. Ninety days from today, the University
1:46:05
Speaker 9: of Utah will open the football season at home at
1:46:08
Speaker 9: Riceycle Stadium against the Idaho Vandals. I will be there,
1:46:11
Speaker 9: as will. Our next guest is part of my broadcast.
1:46:15
Speaker 9: Our broadcast team this year again former Utah great and
1:46:20
Speaker 9: of course my broadcast partner Stevenson Sylvester with us here, sly,
1:46:25
Speaker 9: what's good?
1:46:27
Speaker 7: What's going on?
1:46:28
Speaker 2: Bill?
1:46:28
Speaker 7: How are you?
1:46:29
Speaker 5: I'm great? Can you believe we're ninety days to kick off?
1:46:33
Speaker 7: Man? You told me one hundred days the other day.
1:46:36
Speaker 7: I couldn't believe it. I'm like, where does the time go?
1:46:39
Speaker 7: I just remember the season just ended the other day. Man.
1:46:41
Speaker 7: So yeah, Man, with all the news and drama that's
1:46:44
Speaker 7: going on roads down time we get.
1:46:45
Speaker 9: Some football starf I know, I can't wait. And I
1:46:49
Speaker 9: think I told you it was one hundred days ten
1:46:50
Speaker 9: days ago. So here we are, ten days from now,
1:46:53
Speaker 9: I'm going to tell you it's eighty days, and then
1:46:54
Speaker 9: ten days after that'll be seventy days, and I'll give
1:46:57
Speaker 9: you updates every ten days until we get right up
1:46:59
Speaker 9: on it.
1:47:00
Speaker 5: So all right. We have had the off.
1:47:02
Speaker 9: Season, We've had the regime change, we have had off
1:47:05
Speaker 9: season conditioning, we have had spring football, we have had
1:47:09
Speaker 9: the transfer portal come and go. So what we see
1:47:12
Speaker 9: now is pretty much what Utah football is going to
1:47:15
Speaker 9: be with everything that's transpired SLI over the last six months.
1:47:20
Speaker 9: What's your read on this Utah football program and where
1:47:22
Speaker 9: we sit ninety days out.
1:47:25
Speaker 7: I love it because Utah has had some promotion going
1:47:30
Speaker 7: on as far as narratives and stuff like that, but
1:47:33
Speaker 7: I feel like that's all local, that's all internal stuff.
1:47:36
Speaker 7: As far as like national stuff, Utah has been kind
1:47:38
Speaker 7: of like under the radar and just handling business, which
1:47:41
Speaker 7: is what it should be, right and we should just
1:47:43
Speaker 7: be headling business, getting better, getting all the new people
1:47:46
Speaker 7: ingratiated into the program, and make sure they know what's
1:47:49
Speaker 7: going on, and focus on football because winning games, at
1:47:52
Speaker 7: the end of the day is the only thing that's
1:47:53
Speaker 7: going to really drive the needle and change people doubts
1:47:57
Speaker 7: or making though the way you want to right. You know,
1:48:00
Speaker 7: when people say you are in charge of what you're doing.
1:48:03
Speaker 7: And so one thing that we've I've always been told
1:48:08
Speaker 7: when I played, is like you can only control the
1:48:10
Speaker 7: next down, meaning you can only control the next game.
1:48:13
Speaker 7: You can't control the tenth eleventh game on the schedule
1:48:17
Speaker 7: right now in June. What you can control is getting
1:48:20
Speaker 7: ready for that next opportunity, and so I think that's
1:48:22
Speaker 7: what you're talking to doing. So I really really love that.
1:48:26
Speaker 7: So that's all encompassing and all the things you said
1:48:28
Speaker 7: of what's transpired here this offseason, from the coaching staff
1:48:32
Speaker 7: to the spring football to the new incomers coming in,
1:48:36
Speaker 7: I think they've been on the grind and just pressing
1:48:38
Speaker 7: forward for that next opportunity. Man. So really really loved that.
1:48:42
Speaker 7: I love the talent that's come in right from the
1:48:45
Speaker 7: springball practice that I was able to see and go
1:48:47
Speaker 7: by and see the way that they incorporated the new
1:48:51
Speaker 7: system with the given and how those guys are bringing
1:48:54
Speaker 7: it in and what they've been able to be like, Okay,
1:48:57
Speaker 7: this is what we did last year, let's keep it
1:48:59
Speaker 7: the same. I love that. That just means everybody's working
1:49:03
Speaker 7: together and like this works, let's not change it. And
1:49:06
Speaker 7: so I think our office is going to be one
1:49:08
Speaker 7: of the most dynamic offenses in all of college football
1:49:11
Speaker 7: this year. Absolutely love the way we're set up from
1:49:13
Speaker 7: the schedule stand for point, from the offensive positioning standpoint
1:49:18
Speaker 7: to be able to score a lot of points no
1:49:21
Speaker 7: matter who's that quarterback, who's that running back. We got
1:49:25
Speaker 7: talent all across the board man and just really utilizing
1:49:28
Speaker 7: the personnel is what I'm so excited to see this
1:49:31
Speaker 7: upcoming fall and how we do that. Man. So there's
1:49:34
Speaker 7: been a lot of things. I love what Skolly's doing. Man,
1:49:38
Speaker 7: if there's ever a regime change and you have opinions
1:49:40
Speaker 7: about a regione change and you kind of wanted to
1:49:43
Speaker 7: go a certain way, I think that the way that
1:49:46
Speaker 7: Morgan has gone about this in the university, Utah has
1:49:49
Speaker 7: gone about this with Morgan has been stelling. I love
1:49:52
Speaker 7: the coaching additions that were made is very focused and
1:49:57
Speaker 7: it's very what this program needs right now and get
1:50:01
Speaker 7: back on track and to make sure that it is
1:50:04
Speaker 7: a good transition from the last coach Winningham coaching staff.
1:50:08
Speaker 2: Man.
1:50:08
Speaker 7: So love what's going on. I'm very excited to see
1:50:11
Speaker 7: what they're able to do here come fall.
1:50:12
Speaker 9: So somebody asked me this early in the show today
1:50:14
Speaker 9: on the text line, and I'll ask you the same question.
1:50:16
Speaker 9: They said, what's going to be different about Utah football
1:50:18
Speaker 9: this fall? I'd be curious to know what to see.
1:50:21
Speaker 9: What you think would be different about Utah football this fall.
1:50:25
Speaker 7: Well, I think it would be a plan of attack,
1:50:27
Speaker 7: if anything different, It's a plan of attack. One thing
1:50:30
Speaker 7: that I do know just from my closeness to the
1:50:32
Speaker 7: program is how similar coach Written Scalley are in a
1:50:36
Speaker 7: lot of different ways, right, but I think the plan
1:50:40
Speaker 7: of it what will be different is how they go about,
1:50:43
Speaker 7: you know, attacking the opponent from right out of the
1:50:47
Speaker 7: gate to kind of what's There's a lot of coaches
1:50:50
Speaker 7: who are on to be like, Okay, I want to
1:50:51
Speaker 7: have a filling out process, right. It's kind of what
1:50:53
Speaker 7: I feel about Lebron James, Right, He's like he takes
1:50:56
Speaker 7: that first game of the playoffs and like, let's fill out.
1:50:58
Speaker 7: How are they planning it? How are they trying to
1:50:59
Speaker 7: attack me? And then you know, kind of in a
1:51:02
Speaker 7: boxing match too, what is this guy's game plan this
1:51:05
Speaker 7: whole match and how he plans to fight me? Right?
1:51:08
Speaker 7: And so now I can retali. So I'm gathering information
1:51:12
Speaker 7: as we go. As far as I don't think that
1:51:14
Speaker 7: Scallet game plan. I think Scalley's game plan is like, look,
1:51:17
Speaker 7: I'm gonna hit you where it hurts because I know
1:51:19
Speaker 7: what you're going to try to do about the rip,
1:51:21
Speaker 7: and I'm just gonna do it better and faster and
1:51:24
Speaker 7: right out of the jail so I think that you
1:51:26
Speaker 7: talk football is going to be so aggressive at the
1:51:28
Speaker 7: start of the gate of the games is what I'm anticipating.
1:51:30
Speaker 7: We don't really know because we haven't seen the game yet, right,
1:51:33
Speaker 7: but this is what I think is going to be
1:51:34
Speaker 7: different as a plan of attag per game going in.
1:51:39
Speaker 7: And I think that Morgan scalt is going to be
1:51:40
Speaker 7: on a mission to how dominant this program to be
1:51:45
Speaker 7: against any opponent, no matter how we are. I'm not
1:51:48
Speaker 7: really worried about the next opponent that's coming on and
1:51:51
Speaker 7: what they're thinking. And that's what I take away from
1:51:53
Speaker 7: coach Whitingham's program. I think he was very adamating about,
1:51:57
Speaker 7: like what we do this week is setting up next
1:51:59
Speaker 7: week and they're researching and looking at that. As far
1:52:02
Speaker 7: as Skyy's like, look, we are a dangerous, dangerous team.
1:52:06
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter what we do, whether we run the
1:52:08
Speaker 7: ball this week, where we passed the ball this week,
1:52:11
Speaker 7: whatever we do, you better be ready for it because
1:52:13
Speaker 7: we can come out whatever. I think the plan of
1:52:15
Speaker 7: attack going into games is what's going to be the
1:52:17
Speaker 7: biggest difference, and I think you're going to see a
1:52:19
Speaker 7: lot more points forward from Utah, which is something that
1:52:22
Speaker 7: you know, we've been asking for for years. We've had
1:52:25
Speaker 7: a couple of years in twenty twenty one where you know,
1:52:28
Speaker 7: we were up around that thirty eight forty five points
1:52:30
Speaker 7: a game, and we absolutely love that. And I think
1:52:32
Speaker 7: that's the type of offense, the type of team that
1:52:35
Speaker 7: we're going to be this year. And our defense is
1:52:38
Speaker 7: going to be more putting their ears back and getting
1:52:40
Speaker 7: out to the quarterback because the opponent is going to
1:52:42
Speaker 7: be so behind the ball. So I think the plan
1:52:44
Speaker 7: of attack going in the game is going to be
1:52:45
Speaker 7: the biggest.
1:52:46
Speaker 1: Difference Utah Great and my broadcast partner Steven sent Silvester
1:52:50
Speaker 1: with us here on the Shad O'Connell Show today. All Right,
1:52:53
Speaker 1: let me throw a couple of questions at you that
1:52:55
Speaker 1: I've post on my podcast the last week or two.
1:52:57
Speaker 1: There's are Utah football question specific to this team this year,
1:53:01
Speaker 1: and I just get your reaction to these questions, and
1:53:03
Speaker 1: I've asked listeners. So question number one, will Utah have
1:53:07
Speaker 1: a one thousand yard wide receiver this year? They've gone
1:53:10
Speaker 1: thirteen years without a one thousand yard receivers. Dres Anderson
1:53:14
Speaker 1: was the last Dizzy Dress was the last one to
1:53:16
Speaker 1: have a one thousand yard receiving year. Do you think
1:53:19
Speaker 1: Utah has a one thousand yard wide receiver this year?
1:53:23
Speaker 7: Yes, and I'm looking forward to it. I think we
1:53:26
Speaker 7: have a thousand yard receiver and another six hundred yard
1:53:30
Speaker 7: receiver to compliment. I think Brandon peg is going to
1:53:33
Speaker 7: be one thousand yard receiver. I'm telling you watching this
1:53:36
Speaker 7: guy in person, absolutely love his talent. He's so versed,
1:53:39
Speaker 7: so so strong, and the biggest thing, he's confident. When
1:53:43
Speaker 7: you have a confident receiver and a confident quarterback, yeah,
1:53:45
Speaker 7: Devin da Pierre. He's been in this program, been in
1:53:48
Speaker 7: this conference and understand things and he's very confident. And
1:53:54
Speaker 7: mcgiddon's offense is very similar to the offense that Utah
1:53:58
Speaker 7: State ran last year. And I think that relationship is
1:54:01
Speaker 7: marrying up really well between the given and the Ndam
1:54:04
Speaker 7: Pier and even our back to birth Finkland. I think
1:54:06
Speaker 7: that we just have the talent to make that happen.
1:54:09
Speaker 7: And when you got a number one guy like Brandon Pagan,
1:54:11
Speaker 7: I'm telling you I say that because of what I've
1:54:13
Speaker 7: seen in factice and I'm anticipating what it'll translate over to,
1:54:18
Speaker 7: you know, getting Devin Dampier out of the pocket will
1:54:21
Speaker 7: eliminate anything like oh can we block Syz Like Devon
1:54:25
Speaker 7: dam Pier is dangerous with his legs, So you can't
1:54:28
Speaker 7: double guys on the back end because Devin will kill
1:54:30
Speaker 7: you with legs. So you're gonna have to play utah
1:54:32
Speaker 7: extremely honest. And when you do, that's when guys win
1:54:36
Speaker 7: those one on one battles. That Brandon Pagan's win that
1:54:39
Speaker 7: one on one battles. You get Daniel Bray in the
1:54:41
Speaker 7: slots and extremely dangerous the way we Brittain Tubby was
1:54:45
Speaker 7: back in the day. And we have these talent across
1:54:47
Speaker 7: the board from from Tyree Scholz and the emergence of
1:54:50
Speaker 7: Creed Widmore like, you're gonna see these guys take shape.
1:54:55
Speaker 7: And I do think that Brandon Pagan wins ninety percent
1:54:59
Speaker 7: of his one on one battles just because of his
1:55:01
Speaker 7: stature of athletic ability and confidence. Man, So I believe
1:55:04
Speaker 7: Brandon Hayon will be a thousand yard receiver this year
1:55:07
Speaker 7: in this offense.
1:55:08
Speaker 5: Okay, will they have a double digit sack guy this year?
1:55:15
Speaker 7: No, I think they're gonna be able to spread the love.
1:55:18
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna have posts like I told you, Bill,
1:55:20
Speaker 7: I think Let's post call is my guy. I really
1:55:24
Speaker 7: love the work that he's been able to do, and
1:55:25
Speaker 7: more of the maturity and his character and the type
1:55:28
Speaker 7: of person that he is. He loves his craft. He's
1:55:31
Speaker 7: been dedicating his cars, and that's what I saw that
1:55:33
Speaker 7: Spring is working on the little things, the hand moves,
1:55:37
Speaker 7: the endurance as he put on a little bit of
1:55:40
Speaker 7: weight and strength and all of those things, and that's
1:55:42
Speaker 7: exactly what we need. But I think that he'll be
1:55:46
Speaker 7: a disruptor in the backfield to where if he's a
1:55:51
Speaker 7: John Henry Daily to where Johnny David got majority of
1:55:53
Speaker 7: his sacks early in the season against you know, some
1:55:56
Speaker 7: of our non conference opponents. Maybe we get a double digits,
1:56:00
Speaker 7: but I just see his disruption along with Carson Kafusi
1:56:05
Speaker 7: in the middle on the same side, is going to
1:56:07
Speaker 7: be absolutely dangerous for the opponent. Carson Kafusi, as a
1:56:11
Speaker 7: true freshman, was just wrecking shot and he's just so
1:56:15
Speaker 7: skilled and that's just in the blood lining man. We
1:56:17
Speaker 7: just know that. But just those guys will demand attention
1:56:22
Speaker 7: and and other guys will open up, but they'll get
1:56:25
Speaker 7: that opportunity. So I think what we're having a step
1:56:27
Speaker 7: of double digit sad guys. I think that we're going
1:56:29
Speaker 7: to have high sack between three to four guys. I
1:56:32
Speaker 7: think we'll have three to four guys over six seven
1:56:35
Speaker 7: sacks this year and and I can't wait for that.
1:56:38
Speaker 7: I think it's will be absolutely awesome. With the rotation
1:56:41
Speaker 7: on defensive line, Cash Gilan getting in there are transfer
1:56:44
Speaker 7: Ethan Day. He made a lot of noise and Spring
1:56:48
Speaker 7: is well confident. Yeah he did. He did a great
1:56:51
Speaker 7: job of understanding the defense coming in and being affected.
1:56:55
Speaker 7: Then so excited to see what he's able to do
1:56:57
Speaker 7: with the full off season going into training camp.
1:57:00
Speaker 5: As we head in Idaho, I agree with you.
1:57:02
Speaker 9: I think that you we'll probably see three maybe four
1:57:07
Speaker 9: guys that had between about five and eight sacks. I
1:57:10
Speaker 9: think between Day and Dylan and Holtzklaw and you know,
1:57:14
Speaker 9: the guy we kind of forget a little bit about
1:57:15
Speaker 9: is Paul Fitzgerald, who was hurt most of last year.
1:57:18
Speaker 9: But Paul was a pretty effective player in his first
1:57:22
Speaker 9: couple of years up at Utah State. And I think
1:57:24
Speaker 9: a healthy Paul Fitzgerald could be in that mix too.
1:57:26
Speaker 9: And and you know this, sack numbers are great what's
1:57:29
Speaker 9: really important to pressures and if these guys can get
1:57:32
Speaker 9: you know, in that neighborhood of five to seven to
1:57:34
Speaker 9: eight sacks seats, but also really do a good job
1:57:37
Speaker 9: pressuring that, that'll be huge.
1:57:40
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, And you could take away those those opportunities
1:57:43
Speaker 7: because you know when you have those long play long
1:57:45
Speaker 7: balls and the biggest thing is is those oh gosh,
1:57:52
Speaker 7: why am I last of the name right now? Those
1:57:54
Speaker 7: those Max plays plays over twenty yards? Sorry I'm forgetting
1:57:58
Speaker 7: the name he used to call it, but yeah, chunk plays.
1:58:01
Speaker 7: You eliminate chunk plays by pressures, right, pressures he makes
1:58:06
Speaker 7: dumb decisions, turnover to come up with dumb decisions, and
1:58:09
Speaker 7: you force him to throw the ball short, which means
1:58:11
Speaker 7: everybody can rally and they don't get much out and
1:58:13
Speaker 7: you get three and outs. Right, So pressures, this, as
1:58:15
Speaker 7: you said, is going to be extremely effective, which is
1:58:18
Speaker 7: why I love Carson Kafusi's presence.
1:58:21
Speaker 3: Right.
1:58:21
Speaker 7: Poop pools up Alona as well, did a great job
1:58:24
Speaker 7: last year. You know, we had a lot of fun
1:58:25
Speaker 7: always saying Poopool's affected today. But I think that those
1:58:31
Speaker 7: guys are had experience last year. They'll get to come
1:58:34
Speaker 7: in and really care things up this year and take shape. Man,
1:58:38
Speaker 7: the biggest jump that I think people need to make
1:58:41
Speaker 7: in their careers from the freshman and sophomore year. So
1:58:43
Speaker 7: you got Carson, Kafusie and poopols up alone. I'm going
1:58:47
Speaker 7: from freshmen to sophomores and with the significant experience last year.
1:58:51
Speaker 7: So man excited about this defense is like no weather.
1:58:55
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be absolutely awesome. But I
1:58:58
Speaker 7: think there's gonna be a lot of pressures that are
1:59:00
Speaker 7: going to cost turnovers and a lot of three and outs.
1:59:03
Speaker 7: But you know early in that year last year, we
1:59:06
Speaker 7: didn't create enough turnovers early and so I'm hoping we
1:59:09
Speaker 7: get to the turnover back from the force fumbles to
1:59:12
Speaker 7: the interceptions those some early in the season so when
1:59:15
Speaker 7: they come late in the season when we really need
1:59:17
Speaker 7: them against BYU and Arizona and these games like that,
1:59:22
Speaker 7: that we know how to do it, We're comfortable with
1:59:25
Speaker 7: doing it, and so whenever we need to play, we
1:59:26
Speaker 7: can get a play out of these guys.
1:59:28
Speaker 9: All right, I've looked at the schedule, and it's easy
1:59:31
Speaker 9: to do this in the offseason, but I think the
1:59:32
Speaker 9: schedule early for Utah is really is really positive. You've
1:59:38
Speaker 9: got the three non conference games, all at home against
1:59:40
Speaker 9: three teams that you should beat. I know Arkansas is
1:59:44
Speaker 9: an SEC team, but they're in rebuild mode after firing
1:59:47
Speaker 9: their staff mid season. I just I look at that,
1:59:50
Speaker 9: and then Iowa State new staff. Ninety percent of their
1:59:53
Speaker 9: roster left Kansas rebuilding at Colorado.
1:59:58
Speaker 5: Houston's in there.
1:59:59
Speaker 9: Tough, but I really see a world slide where Utah
2:00:02
Speaker 9: could be eight and oh heading into the BYU game,
2:00:05
Speaker 9: and that November stretch to me is kind of where
2:00:08
Speaker 9: the season is decided, you know, kind of your fate
2:00:11
Speaker 9: of the season with BYU, Arizona and TCU that stretch
2:00:15
Speaker 9: of games, two of the three games being on the road.
2:00:18
Speaker 5: Do you do you agree? Do you disagree? How do
2:00:20
Speaker 5: you think the schedule sets up for Utah?
2:00:24
Speaker 7: Schedule sets up beautifully. I mean, look, or two of
2:00:27
Speaker 7: our three hardest games are at home, you know, from
2:00:30
Speaker 7: BYU at home. Houston is going to be at home,
2:00:33
Speaker 7: and Arizona's going to be away. We have what seven
2:00:37
Speaker 7: home games this year? Yep. I think our schedule sets
2:00:39
Speaker 7: us up to be extremely, extremely beneficial, which is crazy.
2:00:43
Speaker 7: I'm looking at all the schedules throughout the throughout the
2:00:47
Speaker 7: conference of who's going to be you know, a top
2:00:49
Speaker 7: two point. I think there's only going to be six
2:00:50
Speaker 7: real threat teams this year from Arizona, BYU Houston, Kansas State,
2:00:55
Speaker 7: Texas Tech, and Utah. And we have the hardest of
2:00:58
Speaker 7: those six, which I don't think our schedules that hard.
2:01:01
Speaker 7: But you know, it all depends on where the games fall,
2:01:04
Speaker 7: where is it going to be at home, all these
2:01:06
Speaker 7: different factors from you know, how long we've been from
2:01:09
Speaker 7: the bye week, all those things come in, and our
2:01:11
Speaker 7: schedule is great. Text to Tech has the easiest cake
2:01:13
Speaker 7: schedule honestly for me, which is whatever you've got to
2:01:18
Speaker 7: play the teams on on on on your schedule. Hopefully
2:01:20
Speaker 7: there's a surprise team that on paper doesn't look good
2:01:23
Speaker 7: right now, but it turns out to be better and
2:01:25
Speaker 7: challenges test to take down the road. But right now
2:01:28
Speaker 7: their only hard game is going to be with Arizona
2:01:32
Speaker 7: at home. So but Utah is going to be in
2:01:34
Speaker 7: that conversation, b what you has a couple of hard games,
2:01:37
Speaker 7: notre game is not gonna really matter. But they got
2:01:39
Speaker 7: Arizona at home and then at the at Utah. So
2:01:42
Speaker 7: this year is going to come down to the wire again,
2:01:45
Speaker 7: just like last year, with it's going to be the
2:01:47
Speaker 7: last week of the season and somebody's gonna have to
2:01:50
Speaker 7: make do with with with what happens then. As far
2:01:53
Speaker 7: as who's going to be in that championship game, it's
2:01:56
Speaker 7: gonna be a very tight race from a lot of
2:01:58
Speaker 7: different teams. But I think utah set up perfectly. Again,
2:02:01
Speaker 7: the focus right now in June is not November. It's
2:02:06
Speaker 7: about that first game and getting together and that's what
2:02:09
Speaker 7: Utahni's doing. And we could we could really worry about
2:02:12
Speaker 7: all those things and but it's all about momentum, as
2:02:16
Speaker 7: you know, going into the next game. You know, we
2:02:18
Speaker 7: had some trouble at the end of the at the
2:02:20
Speaker 7: season last year, but we were such a talifed team
2:02:22
Speaker 7: that we fought through that. From that Troch's defensive performance
2:02:26
Speaker 7: we put up at Baylor to that terrible game we
2:02:29
Speaker 7: put up at against Kansas State last year, we did
2:02:33
Speaker 7: not end the season great as a team. Even though
2:02:36
Speaker 7: we won those games, we did not end the season great.
2:02:39
Speaker 7: So momentum is going to be huge when we go
2:02:41
Speaker 7: into that b Yu game and we go into that
2:02:44
Speaker 7: Arizona game, right and so really looking forward to how
2:02:48
Speaker 7: this team takes shape and takes on their opponents week
2:02:51
Speaker 7: to week. But right now we are set up to yes,
2:02:54
Speaker 7: B eight to zero heading into B YU, and you know,
2:02:56
Speaker 7: we win that game at home, we're now nine and
2:02:59
Speaker 7: oh going to Arizona and we can possibly head into
2:03:02
Speaker 7: a really really good year again the other double digit
2:03:06
Speaker 7: win year for Utah football, which is great for our
2:03:09
Speaker 7: first year coach, and we'll just go well.
2:03:11
Speaker 9: If they do that, they'll be in position to make
2:03:13
Speaker 9: the College Football Playoff. And I wanted to ask you
2:03:15
Speaker 9: if we want to wind things down college Football Playoff.
2:03:17
Speaker 9: A lot of talk about the format in recent weeks.
2:03:20
Speaker 9: It's currently twelve, which I don't mind. I think the
2:03:23
Speaker 9: twelve team thing has been really good the last two years.
2:03:27
Speaker 9: But the powers would be in the different conferences want
2:03:30
Speaker 9: to expand this thing. Everybody but the SEC and ESPN
2:03:34
Speaker 9: want to move it to twenty four teams. I myself
2:03:37
Speaker 9: would love to see it go to sixteen teams because
2:03:40
Speaker 9: it's more money, sure, but I don't think after you
2:03:43
Speaker 9: get beyond sixteen team slide really anybody's in the mix
2:03:46
Speaker 9: to win the thing. What's your read on the playoff
2:03:50
Speaker 9: format where it's at now and where you'd like to
2:03:53
Speaker 9: see it go or maybe you'd like to see it
2:03:55
Speaker 9: stay at twelve.
2:03:58
Speaker 7: I mean the twelve of this year adjustment for four. Right,
2:04:02
Speaker 7: how many times did we argue that more was dombing?
2:04:04
Speaker 7: Even before that? Just the people determined that there was two? Right,
2:04:08
Speaker 7: it sucked, But I like the twelve tween playoffs. I
2:04:13
Speaker 7: do agree it needs to be more. But everything you
2:04:16
Speaker 7: do is just like being in charge of anything. You're
2:04:19
Speaker 7: not gonna make any You're not gonna make everybody happy, right.
2:04:23
Speaker 7: I definitely think that even the NFL, there's sometimes there's
2:04:27
Speaker 7: guys who don't make the playoffs that you feel like
2:04:30
Speaker 7: was rolling with momentum at the right time, and because
2:04:32
Speaker 7: of technicality, they didn't end up making the playoffs, and
2:04:36
Speaker 7: so you're not gonna make everybody happy. But I do
2:04:39
Speaker 7: agree expanding it past sixteen, you're gonna kind of get
2:04:42
Speaker 7: in the no man's last sixteen is sixteen is great? Right,
2:04:45
Speaker 7: because I think anything past sixteen there's notable losses that
2:04:50
Speaker 7: prove that they should not be in. Right, last year,
2:04:54
Speaker 7: Utah we had what DYU in Texas Tech has losses
2:04:58
Speaker 7: which are great. Both of those teams I've and the
2:05:01
Speaker 7: BYU only had one loss or to one team that
2:05:04
Speaker 7: was ranked top in the country. Why didn't they have
2:05:06
Speaker 7: the chance over some of these other schools. There were
2:05:08
Speaker 7: so many different narratives, and then you had Miami who
2:05:11
Speaker 7: was scraping at the bid, but they ended up making
2:05:13
Speaker 7: it all the way to the championships. So I mean,
2:05:16
Speaker 7: I think when you get to sixteen, you're able to
2:05:18
Speaker 7: wild it out. So I really like the sixteen team model.
2:05:21
Speaker 7: But again, you know, we're going to have a team
2:05:23
Speaker 7: that's on successful seventeen that felt like they should have
2:05:26
Speaker 7: been at the end of that too, so it'll be
2:05:29
Speaker 7: here forever any battle. But I do like where we're
2:05:32
Speaker 7: going with making sure more teams have the ability to
2:05:36
Speaker 7: get to the championship game and make that happen, and
2:05:39
Speaker 7: I think going to sixteen we'll be able to do that.
2:05:41
Speaker 9: Well, the only real reason to go to twenty four
2:05:43
Speaker 9: is the amount of money it would generate, because you're
2:05:46
Speaker 9: not twenty four.
2:05:47
Speaker 5: Teams because a lot of people deal oh no, and.
2:05:50
Speaker 9: I get I'm not so naive to think that I
2:05:52
Speaker 9: don't know what the money part of it is because
2:05:54
Speaker 9: everybody the best programs, the worst programs, everybody in between
2:05:58
Speaker 9: everybody still needs money, even the ones that are the
2:06:01
Speaker 9: best fund that still can use everybody can use more money.
2:06:04
Speaker 9: But twenty that's the only reason to do it, because
2:06:07
Speaker 9: when you would add those additional eight more teams from sixteen,
2:06:11
Speaker 9: I don't think in the real world slide any of
2:06:14
Speaker 9: us think that any of those eight teams beyond sixteen
2:06:16
Speaker 9: would have a legitimate chance to win four or five
2:06:19
Speaker 9: games and win the championship at sixteen. I still think
2:06:22
Speaker 9: that there's a chance. Let's just say it was sixteen
2:06:24
Speaker 9: last year. Both Utah and BYU would have made a
2:06:26
Speaker 9: sixteen team field, Texas would have made it, Notre Dame
2:06:29
Speaker 9: would have made it. I think you could do that
2:06:31
Speaker 9: teams twenty two, twenty three, twenty four there in, maybe
2:06:35
Speaker 9: they win a game, maybe they would win two, but
2:06:37
Speaker 9: the odds have them winning the overall championship are pretty remote.
2:06:42
Speaker 7: Yeah, And then you get in to the aspect of
2:06:44
Speaker 7: wanting to include the G five with them having performance
2:06:47
Speaker 7: the way James Madison played against Oregon, right, and so
2:06:51
Speaker 7: it's just like, are is that totally necessary or should
2:06:54
Speaker 7: we have included the Texas' Should we have included you know,
2:06:57
Speaker 7: the Utahs and the byus, and so there's gonna be
2:07:01
Speaker 7: people who aren't going to make it because you have
2:07:03
Speaker 7: to have those other guys. So I guess somebody's going
2:07:07
Speaker 7: to be left out each and every year unfortunately to
2:07:10
Speaker 7: do that and all of this, because you expanded a
2:07:13
Speaker 7: lot more teams had the opportunity. It does make things
2:07:15
Speaker 7: more exciting. Though. You get teams who aren't trying to
2:07:19
Speaker 7: throw in the towel around with nine and ten because
2:07:22
Speaker 7: they're out of the mix. You get a lot more
2:07:24
Speaker 7: people who have the ability to get into that playoffs,
2:07:26
Speaker 7: and so college football will always be interesting, you know,
2:07:31
Speaker 7: heading into the end of the season and championship weekend
2:07:34
Speaker 7: and all these other things. And so I think whatever
2:07:37
Speaker 7: you do, you create more possibilities for us all to
2:07:41
Speaker 7: watch football, which is what we love, and some of
2:07:44
Speaker 7: us to watch our favorite teams. Right, you expand that
2:07:46
Speaker 7: we give our favorite teams more opportunities to play another game.
2:07:49
Speaker 7: I'd love to see you play another game.
2:07:51
Speaker 5: Last year, bast another game.
2:07:54
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, exactly, man, So yeah, I love it. I
2:08:00
Speaker 7: think they're moving towards it, to getting it right, and
2:08:04
Speaker 7: hopefully there's going to be a foundation set somewhere where
2:08:07
Speaker 7: we can keep that for at least a couple of years.
2:08:10
Speaker 9: Hey, Sly, thanks my man, ninety days, talk to you soon.
2:08:14
Speaker 9: All right, brother, There he is Stevenson Sylvester, part of
2:08:17
Speaker 9: the broadcast team, one of the Utah greats, and glad
2:08:21
Speaker 9: to have him on board here on the program today
2:08:23
Speaker 9: on a Friday, ninety days, have to kick off. Derek
2:08:26
Speaker 9: the Mailman check it in, Hey, Derek said, Hey, Bill,
2:08:29
Speaker 9: checking in as usual. Great episode of the Crimson Corner
2:08:32
Speaker 9: this week. By the way, CP three, such a dynamic personality,
2:08:36
Speaker 9: really fun to listen to.
2:08:37
Speaker 5: Great job, old friend. Thank you for listening.
2:08:39
Speaker 9: Derek Clark Phillips third my guest on this week's Crimson Corner.
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2:08:46
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Speaker 9: seven hundred and ninety two ONEm.
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Speaker 2: Thank you are listening to the Sean O'Connell Show for
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Speaker 2: the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety
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Speaker 2: two to one af M.
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Speaker 9: All right, we're less than a week away from the
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Speaker 9: World Cup beginning. It actually begins next Thursday, the eleventh.
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Speaker 9: The United States opens up World Cup play a week
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Speaker 9: from today at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles against Paraguay.
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Speaker 9: They have their final World Cup tune up tomorrow in
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Speaker 9: Chicago against Germany. That game will be heard right here
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Speaker 9: on ESPN seven hundred tomorrow at twelve thirty Mountain time.
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Speaker 5: And our next guest is in Chicago.
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Speaker 9: Recovery, former member of the US men's national team, soccer
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Speaker 9: broadcaster and friend of the program and friend of mine.
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Speaker 9: We did a few games together back of the day,
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Speaker 9: Arcelo about Boa with us here on ESPN seven hundred, Cello,
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Speaker 9: how are you.
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Speaker 6: I'm good, buddy, How are you doing.
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Speaker 5: Greats I'm doing great. We're a week away. What do
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Speaker 5: you expect?
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Speaker 6: I know, Oh lord, I expect the hype to get
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Speaker 6: better this week, you know what I mean. And it's
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Speaker 6: been kind of subdued a little bit. I'm waiting for
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Speaker 6: the uh for now that all the teams are getting
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Speaker 6: into the US to say, you can feel the vibe,
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean of a World Cup.
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Speaker 9: I got my expectations were tempered and maybe a little
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Speaker 9: low prior to last Saturday or last Sunday when the
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Speaker 9: United States played Senegal, and I feel like Cello, I
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Speaker 9: finally saw some glimpses of what this team could be,
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Speaker 9: and against the World Cup quality club because obviously Sentegal's
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Speaker 9: in the Cup as well. So you tell me where
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Speaker 9: you sit today a week out from your expectations about
2:10:38
Speaker 9: this particular squad.
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Speaker 6: I'm listening because they've gotten a few bad results. Our
2:10:43
Speaker 6: expectations shouldn't drop. We know what this team has, we
2:10:47
Speaker 6: know what they're capable of. So my expectations never dropped.
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Speaker 6: Even though they lost the Belgium, they lost the Portugal,
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Speaker 6: I go my expectations to always be the same. This
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Speaker 6: is a team they need to get to the quarterfinals,
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Speaker 6: as simple as that. After for years and years of
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Speaker 6: working together, ninety percent or eighty percent of the squad
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Speaker 6: is still together. They're playing in some of the best
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Speaker 6: leagues in the world or the best leagues in the world.
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Speaker 6: So you know, I mean, after getting the result against Senegal,
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Speaker 6: good forty five minutes and you put ten new bodies in.
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Speaker 6: It makes it difficult, But my expectations never dropped for
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Speaker 6: this team. It's just like Argentina or Brazil when you're
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Speaker 6: going to a World Cup even though you have a
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Speaker 6: loss or two, they don't. Their expectations don't drop to
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Speaker 6: not winning the World Cup, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: So we'll we'll always judge Butchetino on these next three,
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Speaker 6: four or five games, whatever higher far the US gets.
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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you are what your results say you are.
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Speaker 9: That's for sure, and that's that's that's fair. You played
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Speaker 9: at home. You remember the ninety four team that got
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Speaker 9: to play in the United States. What difference does that
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Speaker 9: make playing in front of again, mostly home crowds, being
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Speaker 9: in your country, playing in your time zones.
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Speaker 5: How much of an advantage is that for this team?
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Speaker 6: Oh, listen, it's a huge advantage from Mexico because they're
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Speaker 6: playing in the altitude. It's a huge vantage for Canada
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Speaker 6: because they know the stadiums, they're at home. They have
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Speaker 6: their fans, they have their support, they have their their
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Speaker 6: booting sexus like we do. We've got our American outlaws,
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Speaker 6: We've got family friends, Americans who want to see this
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Speaker 6: team do well. So it's different for these kids. They've
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Speaker 6: played in big games already, they play and Champions League
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Speaker 6: Euro So you know, the only difference is you're at home.
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Speaker 6: Now the expectations are high. This is a group that
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Speaker 6: can take We we have an MLS, people can see it,
2:12:32
Speaker 6: but this group can take the next step. That you
2:12:36
Speaker 6: really pushed the soccer to a bigger global stage where
2:12:38
Speaker 6: people are respecting us. Because if Eastill go to England,
2:12:41
Speaker 6: people still give you a hard time about being an
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Speaker 6: American and playing in soccer. We don't have any world
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Speaker 6: superstars or belowna or winners. So I think this this
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Speaker 6: could take another big step in the world of football.
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Speaker 5: What was that like for you and your teammates? Did
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Speaker 5: do that? Did don that?
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Speaker 6: Uh?
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Speaker 5: That that jersey with with the USA on it?
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Speaker 1: And to play on home soil when you stepped on
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Speaker 1: that field for the very first time in a world coming.
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Speaker 6: Oh my lord, there's a protest going on to the hotel?
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Speaker 7: Oh my can you hear me? Now?
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Speaker 5: I got you?
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Speaker 7: Oh my lord, that was scary.
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Speaker 5: What's the protest? Can you hear me?
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Speaker 3: I can't hear you.
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Speaker 7: Man, it's gone the hotel.
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Speaker 5: See if you can get to a quiet place. Jello
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Speaker 5: did he hang up?
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Speaker 9: Okay, we'll see, we'll see if we'll see if Marcelo
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Speaker 9: calls us, he's in Chicago. Uh, he'll be part of
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Speaker 9: the the Spanish language broadcast tomorrow for the United States
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Speaker 9: in Germany as they play at Soldier Field at twelve
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Speaker 9: thirty Mountain time, and then of course I think he's
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Speaker 9: going to have a role with the Spanish speaking broadcast
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Speaker 9: for the World Cup as well throughout. I don't know
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Speaker 9: if it's just the United States or if it will
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Speaker 9: be on part of all their Spanish speaking broadcasts, but
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Speaker 9: hope that he calls back here momentarily to to fill
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Speaker 9: in a few more details, because I want to pick
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Speaker 9: his brain just a little bit. The United States plays
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Speaker 9: in Group D. If you're not familiar with who the
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Speaker 9: United States has in Group D, it's a good group,
2:14:38
Speaker 9: but as Cello said, it's one they should advance out of.
2:14:42
Speaker 9: They open up play with Paraguay. They also have Australia
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Speaker 9: and Turkey. It's a winnable group for the United States.
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Speaker 9: Of those teams, Turkey is probably the most difficult challenge
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Speaker 9: that I believe is who they play last. And my
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Speaker 9: expectation is much the same as Cellos at quarter final appearance.
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Speaker 9: I think you get out of your group. I think
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Speaker 9: they win Group D. I think you get a win
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Speaker 9: in your first game of the knockout stage and then
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Speaker 9: you would dance onto the quarterfinals.
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Speaker 5: So we'll see if they're able to do that.
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Speaker 9: It's as I said last week was to me, maybe
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Speaker 9: the best news you could have gotten. They played very
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Speaker 9: well against Senegal. Senegal is in the World Cup as well.
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Speaker 9: They're one of the best African nations. And for the
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Speaker 9: first forty five minutes of that match, maybe I'll say
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Speaker 9: for the first forty three minutes of that match before
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Speaker 9: they conceded the goal, I think it was in about
2:15:38
Speaker 9: the forty third minute late in the first half that
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Speaker 9: they dominated. Christian Polistic looked like Captain America. They got
2:15:45
Speaker 9: great play out of the midfield. They were solid and back.
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Speaker 9: I would say that if you have Chris Richards, you're
2:15:52
Speaker 9: going to be in good shape if you're the United States.
2:15:55
Speaker 5: But we'll see. The midfield feels a little thin.
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Speaker 9: But if Tyler Adams stays healthy, Weston mckennie stays healthy,
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Speaker 9: if you can get a little bit of magic out
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Speaker 9: of a GEO arena. I like the way their midfield
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Speaker 9: is put together, and I like some of their attack.
2:16:10
Speaker 9: I like a lot of their attacking options as well,
2:16:12
Speaker 9: So I have high hopes for the US men's national
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Speaker 9: team as they get ready to play and begin World
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Speaker 9: Cup action next week. And again I'm not sure how
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Speaker 9: much either side will play tomorrow, how much we'll see starters,
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Speaker 9: because again, while you want to get in good form,
2:16:29
Speaker 9: you want to limit your risk of injuries a week
2:16:32
Speaker 9: out from beginning. So they'll play Germany tomorrow and go
2:16:37
Speaker 9: from there. Got a text from Balboa.
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Speaker 1: And he just shot me a video of apparently the
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Speaker 1: protesters in his hotel lobby. So I'm not sure if
2:16:49
Speaker 1: we're going to get him back or not, but he
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Speaker 1: could call back if he if he if he so chooses,
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Speaker 1: and if he can get to a quiet spot. So
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Speaker 1: Chris Richards, I'm reading from earlier today, will not be
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Speaker 1: in the lineup tomorrow. You could make a case that
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Speaker 1: Chris Richards is as important as anybody for the United States.
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Speaker 1: He's center back and would be an anchor on the
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Speaker 1: back lineup a back line that looked shaky last week.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it was the way they were put together in
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Speaker 1: the lineup, maybe it was the form they were in,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't look great. And I'm not sure the
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Speaker 1: United States has a great goalkeeper right now either. I
2:17:36
Speaker 1: think they have solid options, but nothing great. It's unlike
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Speaker 1: the days where you went from guys like guys like
2:17:43
Speaker 1: Tim Howard and.
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Speaker 9: And Casey Keller and others, where you always felt like
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Speaker 9: the United States had had a fighting chance because of
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Speaker 9: their goal. The goalkeeping is good, not great, but good.
2:17:57
Speaker 9: But you'd like to think that line in front of
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Speaker 9: him is good. So we'll see how they play as well.
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Speaker 9: But that's the United States and Germany. We'll have that
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Speaker 9: match for you right here on ESPN seven hundred tomorrow
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Speaker 9: starting at twelve thirty from Soldier Field in Chicago. And
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Speaker 9: then they open a week from today at Sofi Stadium
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Speaker 9: in Los Angeles against Paraguay. That's a seven o'clock start
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Speaker 9: time Mountain time next Friday against Paraguay. And like I said,
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Speaker 9: my expectation is winning Group D. A win and then
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Speaker 9: into the knockout stage you go. We'll see how that goes.
2:18:31
Speaker 9: By the way, if you would like to win tickets
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Speaker 9: to see the Smashing Pumpkins, they're going to be at
2:18:36
Speaker 9: the Delta Center on October twenty ninth. By the way,
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Speaker 9: our limited World Cup talk with Marcelo Balboa brought to
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Speaker 9: us by our friends at Beer Bar where they have
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Speaker 9: all the World Cup matches, all the Rail Salt Lake matches,
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Speaker 9: all the soccer you could ever want. It's great location
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Speaker 9: to have a beer, get together with friends, but watch
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Speaker 9: great sports, including the world's game soccer, all throughout the
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Speaker 9: next month during the World Cup. All right, if you
2:19:03
Speaker 9: would like to win those tickets to see Smashing Pumpkins,
2:19:09
Speaker 9: tell me on the text line right now, how many
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Speaker 9: in a row the New York Knickerbockers have won heading
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Speaker 9: into game two tonight? How many games straight have the
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Speaker 9: Knicks one in a row? Heading into Game two tonight
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Speaker 9: of the NBA Finals. Text lines open to you at
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Speaker 9: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. That's again,
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Speaker 9: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. How
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Speaker 9: many straight games have the Knickerbockers won heading into tonight's
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Speaker 9: Game two, which, by the way, you'll be able to
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Speaker 9: hear here on ESPN seven hundred ninety two one FM.
2:19:41
Speaker 9: Pregame at six and a six thirty start time between
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Speaker 9: the Knicks and the Spurs. Take our final time out
2:19:48
Speaker 9: come back on the other side, set things up with
2:19:50
Speaker 9: a little cross talk.
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Speaker 5: Next You're at ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
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Speaker 5: This is by Sean O'Connell show.
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Speaker 7: To one a f M.
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Speaker 1: Did we get a winner on those smashing pumpkin tickets, James,
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Speaker 1: because that's the smashing pumpkins we just played coming in.
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Speaker 9: By the way, the answer was twelve. They've won twelve
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Speaker 9: straight games coming in. And the unbelievable stat though, is
2:20:27
Speaker 9: they've won by a margin of two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 9: two points, which is an all time record in the
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Speaker 9: history of the NBA playoff or regular season over a
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Speaker 9: twelve game streak. Nobody's ever won by more points. I
2:20:39
Speaker 9: was ready to heap all sorts of praise on the Knickerbockers,
2:20:42
Speaker 9: as I did the other day when I joined him
2:20:43
Speaker 9: on the show with Spence checkets on crosstalk presented by
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Speaker 9: Advanced Window Products, and no Spence, I get Porter, which
2:20:51
Speaker 9: is great because I love Porter Larson, who's in here
2:20:53
Speaker 9: is going to be filling in for Spence.
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Speaker 5: But no Spence today. But you're a Knicks fan too, right, Yeah?
2:20:58
Speaker 1: Knicks fan diehard fan, not the connections that the check
2:21:02
Speaker 1: ITTs have.
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Speaker 5: But they don't want to be going to Game four either,
2:21:04
Speaker 5: you know, I don't.
2:21:05
Speaker 1: I don't get to go schmooze up the celebrities at
2:21:08
Speaker 1: the garden. But I am a I am a Knicks fan.
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Speaker 9: I am Is this the first time in years that
2:21:16
Speaker 9: any one of your teams has been worth a damn
2:21:18
Speaker 9: and anything?
2:21:19
Speaker 1: This is the only time outside of the Mets and
2:21:21
Speaker 1: your Royals in twenty fifteen.
2:21:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, so like a decade.
2:21:23
Speaker 9: Because you're a Cowboys, You're You're your fandom is all
2:21:26
Speaker 9: over the place. You're a Knicks fan, a Mets fan.
2:21:30
Speaker 9: Weird because you've never lived in New York. But that's okay.
2:21:34
Speaker 9: Cowboys fan, and I'm trying to you don't have a
2:21:38
Speaker 9: hockey team. You're probably a Mammoth fan right hometown.
2:21:41
Speaker 8: Me too.
2:21:42
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with a hockey team, so I'm
2:21:44
Speaker 1: on board with the Mammoth. I'm still learning that game,
2:21:47
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you. Yeah, it's hard to
2:21:49
Speaker 1: like pick a team before you really know the sports.
2:21:51
Speaker 1: There are another team I'm missing, No calf roping team you're.
2:21:54
Speaker 5: A fan of. You're a Rodeo team.
2:21:56
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big Rodeo guy. I know you're
2:21:58
Speaker 1: the right brothers the field who are hometown. I was
2:22:02
Speaker 1: a big Fred Whitfield fan, girling up Colton Swan. Colton
2:22:05
Speaker 1: Swan of course, studio guy, bulldogger. He's more roping now,
2:22:09
Speaker 1: so he's.
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Speaker 9: Not Yeah, he's trying to get off the tough stuff
2:22:11
Speaker 9: because he's getting older now.
2:22:13
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to break anything. But uh yeah, I
2:22:15
Speaker 1: mean almost any sport. I'm a big tennis guy, so
2:22:18
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying rolling Garos.
2:22:20
Speaker 5: But all the names are kind of been eliminated from
2:22:23
Speaker 5: Roland Garros.
2:22:24
Speaker 1: Which I don't hate a lot of times. I quite
2:22:27
Speaker 1: like the underdog story. Flavio number ten in the world
2:22:30
Speaker 1: is now in the final. That'll be fun to watch.
2:22:33
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean as a Knicks fan, that's where
2:22:36
Speaker 1: my energy's focused.
2:22:37
Speaker 7: Me.
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Speaker 9: Where are you on this? I mean, can you believe
2:22:40
Speaker 9: this is happening? I mean they look like a team.
2:22:43
Speaker 9: I mean they're a team. And I made this comparison
2:22:45
Speaker 9: to Gordy earlier. They remind me of the of the Pistons,
2:22:50
Speaker 9: the Four Pistons, a little bit really good collective team.
2:22:54
Speaker 1: No transcendent superstar Jalen Brunson kind of playing the Chauncey
2:22:59
Speaker 1: Billups role of sorts. Then you've got some other guys
2:23:02
Speaker 1: playing the Rip Hamilton role. I don't know that they've
2:23:04
Speaker 1: got a Ben Wallace on the team.
2:23:07
Speaker 5: Does that make sense?
2:23:07
Speaker 1: They don't, I wish they did. Going up against Victor
2:23:09
Speaker 1: Weben Yama, Karl.
2:23:11
Speaker 9: Anthony Towns actually showing some pulse defensively trying to guard
2:23:15
Speaker 9: out and get out guard Wemby.
2:23:16
Speaker 1: He's been great, I'll tell you what. Although they don't
2:23:20
Speaker 1: have that transcendent superstar, they do have the second highest
2:23:25
Speaker 1: pay roll in the NBA. I think they have a
2:23:26
Speaker 1: really deep, really versatile roster that can beat you in another.
2:23:30
Speaker 9: And they've got a bunch of bench guys that don't
2:23:32
Speaker 9: mind just being bench guys and playing really hard.
2:23:35
Speaker 1: And although maybe not finals experience, half of their starting
2:23:38
Speaker 1: roster won a national championship together. They've won before.
2:23:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they know how to.
2:23:44
Speaker 1: So I actually have been fairly confident in this next team,
2:23:48
Speaker 1: whereas usually I am going into the games just hoping
2:23:54
Speaker 1: that they don't embarrass themselves. Right It's very different feeling
2:23:57
Speaker 1: being a Knicks fan and watching what they're doing right now.
2:24:00
Speaker 1: Not only the first the best twelve game span by
2:24:05
Speaker 1: a team in NBA postseason history we're currently on, but
2:24:08
Speaker 1: the second best twelve game span earlier in the playoffs,
2:24:12
Speaker 1: starting in the first round. Those both belong to the Knicks.
2:24:15
Speaker 5: This is a team that is.
2:24:18
Speaker 1: Playing as good of basketball when you need to be
2:24:21
Speaker 1: peaking as I've seen in a long time.
2:24:23
Speaker 9: Here's a weird thing too, I'm rooting for the Knicks.
2:24:26
Speaker 9: I've never in my life rooted for the Knicks. I
2:24:28
Speaker 9: don't root for really any New York teams. Midwest guy,
2:24:31
Speaker 9: I don't. But I find the Spurs this weird. I
2:24:35
Speaker 9: find them unlikable. There's something about the Spurs I don't like.
2:24:38
Speaker 9: I don't know what that is.
2:24:40
Speaker 5: I don't know.
2:24:41
Speaker 9: And there's something about this Knicks team that I like.
2:24:44
Speaker 9: I don't know what it is because I'm not a
2:24:46
Speaker 9: New York guy. But there's something about Bronson and Karl
2:24:49
Speaker 9: Anthony Towns doesn't seem as goofy as he used to be.
2:24:52
Speaker 9: Like when he was with the t Wolves. He always
2:24:53
Speaker 9: kind of came off as a goofy guy that just
2:24:56
Speaker 9: liked to shoot threes and didn't really give effort all
2:24:58
Speaker 9: the time.
2:24:59
Speaker 5: I don't know. I like Mike Brown too. I'd like
2:25:01
Speaker 5: like Mike Brown the way they play.
2:25:02
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch Josh Hart, who could care less
2:25:06
Speaker 1: if he scores a point, but a loose ball or
2:25:08
Speaker 1: a rebound free you know, up for grabs. He will
2:25:12
Speaker 1: jump off the top rope essentially like he's one of
2:25:15
Speaker 1: the hardy brothers to get the to get a loose ball.
2:25:18
Speaker 1: And to me, it's it's it's the best thing about
2:25:21
Speaker 1: a player is when they have that type of attitude
2:25:23
Speaker 1: towards the game and he's not the only one bridges
2:25:26
Speaker 1: the same way, like they are a likable unit. And
2:25:30
Speaker 1: for me, teams usually love and fans around the country
2:25:33
Speaker 1: usually love to cheer against the Knicks against the Lakers
2:25:36
Speaker 1: to see what feels like a lot of people on
2:25:39
Speaker 1: our side is is is pretty cool.
2:25:41
Speaker 9: By the way, your co host today filling in just
2:25:44
Speaker 9: roll their eyes and kind of flared up her nose
2:25:47
Speaker 9: and you're not with thumbs down. Sarah Todd is sitting
2:25:49
Speaker 9: in with Porter today. Hi, Sarah, I know I didn't
2:25:55
Speaker 9: know I was going to see you. I know I
2:25:56
Speaker 9: was going to see Porter either.
2:25:57
Speaker 1: So this is great sports rider of the Year again,
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Speaker 1: time a gay time.
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Speaker 5: Will get you on that list. Great to see you.
2:26:08
Speaker 5: You're not rooting for the Knicks.
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Speaker 10: No, it's so funny because I'm in this moment learning.
2:26:17
Speaker 5: That Porter is, Oh you didn't know this?
2:26:19
Speaker 9: No, oh yeah, he's got this weird sports fandom that
2:26:21
Speaker 9: goes all over the country.
2:26:22
Speaker 10: I'm fine with that.
2:26:23
Speaker 4: I'm fine with broadening out your sports fandom from like
2:26:26
Speaker 4: the geographic region that you live in.
2:26:28
Speaker 1: But it doesn't change. That's the good thing. I'm not
2:26:30
Speaker 1: like a fair Weather fan.
2:26:31
Speaker 4: Great, sure, but it's just such a fan thing to
2:26:36
Speaker 4: and like I relate to this as a fan of teams.
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Speaker 5: Right, who's wearing a Liverpool jersey?
2:26:43
Speaker 10: I'm I literally have a Liverpool tattoo on my arm.
2:26:46
Speaker 5: Well that's better even I get it. That's fandom. Yeah, but.
2:26:50
Speaker 4: To say like our team has the best twelve game span,
2:26:56
Speaker 4: like to bring it down into like moments of that
2:26:58
Speaker 4: and then also be like, no, I promise that this
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Speaker 4: this version is likable.
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Speaker 10: You guys, like people are liking us now, They're.
2:27:06
Speaker 1: Not more than usual. That's awesome, some of them are.
2:27:09
Speaker 5: I don't know.
2:27:10
Speaker 10: I just think I Wenty's hilarious.
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Speaker 4: I love that he leans into being a heel which
2:27:15
Speaker 4: also leans into being like the soft nerd, and I
2:27:20
Speaker 4: love it.
2:27:20
Speaker 10: I want the twenty two year.
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Speaker 1: Old to win, okay, well, and I find the Spurs
2:27:23
Speaker 1: likable as well. So it's it's one of those finals
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Speaker 1: where I'm like, this is great. I'm not like actively
2:27:28
Speaker 1: rooting against the team because they've won the last three titles,
2:27:31
Speaker 1: or they're there every year, or they just signed an
2:27:35
Speaker 1: MVP after winning seventy three games like that. There's not
2:27:38
Speaker 1: a as as Sarah said, there's not like a true
2:27:42
Speaker 1: heel in this. I think a lot of basketball fans
2:27:45
Speaker 1: just like the way these two teams play and watching them.
2:27:48
Speaker 1: I'm really rooting hard for Harrison Barnes. I had forgotten
2:27:52
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes played for the Spurs until he made a
2:27:55
Speaker 1: couple of random playoff appearances and I was.
2:27:57
Speaker 5: Like, oh, yeah, yeah, Harrison Barnes is a Spur. His
2:28:00
Speaker 5: line was not great the other night.
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Speaker 1: No, and the it's interesting the Spurs now after one game.
2:28:07
Speaker 1: I think that the script has been kind of flipped
2:28:09
Speaker 1: where everyone coming into the series is like, what do
2:28:10
Speaker 1: you do with Wemby?
2:28:11
Speaker 7: What?
2:28:11
Speaker 1: How do you oppose that? How do you defend that?
2:28:14
Speaker 1: How do you score on that? And now people are
2:28:17
Speaker 1: wondering like it's the own. It seems like it's more
2:28:20
Speaker 1: on the Spurs, what to do on the wings and
2:28:22
Speaker 1: and how they actually counter what the Knicks did in
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Speaker 1: Game one, And uh, that's that seems like a good
2:28:29
Speaker 1: place to be. You've neutralized home court advantage now and
2:28:33
Speaker 1: now it really does become an interesting competitive series. And
2:28:37
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see how it goes. Game two tonight
2:28:39
Speaker 1: at a pregame at six when you guys wrap up
2:28:42
Speaker 1: right right here on the ESPN seven hundred US men's
2:28:44
Speaker 1: national team game with Germany tomorrow as well, and then
2:28:47
Speaker 1: tomorrow night a little hockey. So the friendly is uh?
2:28:50
Speaker 1: Is that on our that's not our stitsue too, it's
2:28:52
Speaker 1: a twelve thirty tomorrow not a friendly. They'll call them friendlies.
2:28:54
Speaker 1: International games before World Cups are not friendly, fair enough.
2:28:57
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure how either team plays tomorrow because
2:28:59
Speaker 1: as much as you want to be in form, you're
2:29:02
Speaker 1: also a week away from starting the most important tournament
2:29:04
Speaker 1: to plays every four years. And as I say, Chris
2:29:07
Speaker 1: Richards is not playing for the US, which isn't great.
2:29:09
Speaker 1: So what are you guys talking about today? Obviously the
2:29:12
Speaker 1: NBA Finals Game two, we will, as Sarah has covered
2:29:17
Speaker 1: really well over the last couple of weeks, talk a
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Speaker 1: lot of NBA Draft Jazz de Bodza, Peterson, Boozer, whatever
2:29:24
Speaker 1: it may be.
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Speaker 5: I love.
2:29:28
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I think that the first
2:29:31
Speaker 1: two picks are gonna be AJ Darren very likely. But
2:29:35
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be surprised if two through four alternate
2:29:40
Speaker 1: and flip in any which direction. If it goes Wilson, Peterson, Boozer, Boozer,
2:29:46
Speaker 1: Wilson Peterson, I wouldn't be real surprised if he goes
2:29:48
Speaker 1: any any order in the in those two through four,
2:29:51
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised if Peterson went lower than two only
2:29:53
Speaker 1: because of I guess what, we surprise questions about him
2:29:58
Speaker 1: through through the year of medical check out, and he's
2:30:00
Speaker 1: not some sort of creatine addict. If he seemed to
2:30:04
Speaker 1: say he was, it can't which that's that just can't
2:30:06
Speaker 1: be true. Well, and that's part of why it's like
2:30:08
Speaker 1: we still kind of have questions about that. That's but
2:30:10
Speaker 1: Wilson Boozer, the pick at three is going to be
2:30:13
Speaker 1: interesting because I think a lot of people Sarah feel
2:30:15
Speaker 1: like Wilson's ceiling might be higher than Boozers.
2:30:17
Speaker 9: Boozers, it feels like a safe pick. You kind of
2:30:19
Speaker 9: know what you're getting going to be a good pro.
2:30:21
Speaker 9: But maybe Wilson's got a higher ceiling but lower floor.
2:30:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's that's the perfect way to describe
2:30:26
Speaker 4: Boozer is that he might have the lower ceiling, but
2:30:29
Speaker 4: he has the highest floor. I think of like the
2:30:31
Speaker 4: top five at least, But he really he's an analytics darling.
2:30:35
Speaker 4: He's incredibly efficient. He's a really really safe bet. But
2:30:39
Speaker 4: the other guys look like they have the potential to
2:30:42
Speaker 4: be like generational.
2:30:43
Speaker 1: Right camp, Boozer might be the best player in the
2:30:46
Speaker 1: draft right now, But when you're projecting forward, that's where
2:30:49
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, where do we go? And AJ
2:30:52
Speaker 1: obviously has a really high ceiling. So also the team
2:30:55
Speaker 1: you go to, yeah, and what's around you and how
2:30:57
Speaker 1: they're running things like that fit in scheme. Sarah on
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Speaker 1: Porter coming up next, I've got to fly you guys,
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Speaker 1: enjoy your afternoon, enjoy your weekend. They'll take you home.
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Speaker 1: And thanks to Deshaun for letting me sit in today.
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