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- 0:12Speaker 1: It's love, love and love and love. Hello, welcome to
- 0:17Speaker 1: the Naught even Nic Sham'm your host Rob Shooter and
- 0:19Speaker 1: it is Wednesday, which means I dear friend Donnie Meacham
- 0:22Speaker 1: joined us. Hey Donnie, are you there?
- 0:24Speaker 2: Hello? A level level.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Oh if you don't notice, Oh, this is something different
- 0:28Speaker 3: about me today. I'm in the beautiful Monterey Bay, California.
- 0:33Speaker 2: The beach. The Orca whales are.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Migrating and the running and my mom as an obsession.
- 0:40Speaker 3: It's all she thinks about. I'm telling you three months
- 0:43Speaker 3: she must have checked out these people's money based their
- 0:46Speaker 3: Instagram and she would send me the video every single
- 0:49Speaker 3: days of the Orca school. I would talk to her
- 0:52Speaker 3: on the phone every day. She goes, you know, those
- 0:54Speaker 3: whales are still God. I said this the other day
- 0:56Speaker 3: on Friday, I go, Mom, I heard about this for
- 0:59Speaker 3: so yeah, will you just book this ticket?
- 1:03Speaker 2: She was here the next day.
- 1:05Speaker 1: I love it. You're a good son. You're a good son.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Gosh bless Send my love to your mummy. Royle jump
- 1:10Speaker 1: into the show. What time is it? My Friends? And
- 1:12Speaker 1: is tea time? Kig's story at the top of the show,
- 1:15Speaker 1: So Hayden Panetera was allegedly taking medication before her death.
- 1:21Speaker 1: How do we know this? Hayden Panetea was taking multiple
- 1:25Speaker 1: medications before her death. We know this because her boyfriend,
- 1:29Speaker 1: Brian Hickerson. We've been talking about him. We'll get into
- 1:31Speaker 1: that today. He allegedly showed the police a bag of
- 1:35Speaker 1: medication at the scene, so now we know he was
- 1:38Speaker 1: at the scene. We couldn't report this until today. We
- 1:42Speaker 1: suspected he was there. We thought he might be there,
- 1:45Speaker 1: but we didn't know, so we had to be very
- 1:46Speaker 1: very careful to actually put him at the scene. He's
- 1:49Speaker 1: done it himself. The exact medications have been redacted from
- 1:53Speaker 1: the police report, so we don't know exactly what they are.
- 1:55Speaker 1: There's nine in total. I counted the list. Nine in total.
- 1:59Speaker 1: She was found on risk Sunday in the apartment complex
- 2:02Speaker 1: in Greenville. We do now know, though, that Brian Hickerson
- 2:07Speaker 1: and his brother Zach were both there when emergency responders arrived.
- 2:15Speaker 1: The police have said that there was no initial signs
- 2:18Speaker 1: of foul play or suspicious circumstance, which they said about
- 2:21Speaker 1: Matthew Perry too, and look how that worked out. Officially,
- 2:25Speaker 1: we don't have a cause of death yet. We're waiting
- 2:27Speaker 1: for the toxicology results. But a couple of things here.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Why is he showing them her medication? Is this a
- 2:34Speaker 1: way of him trying to cover something up? And now
- 2:37Speaker 1: we know he was there, He was there with his
- 2:41Speaker 1: brother when his girlfriend died. Not looking good, Donny, what
- 2:46Speaker 1: do you think?
- 2:47Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's not a good because initial reports
- 2:49Speaker 3: have said that maybe Brian had flown back home prior
- 2:52Speaker 3: to her death. And then but then, if you think
- 2:55Speaker 3: about it, somebody had to have called name one one.
- 2:58Speaker 2: There was somebody there who can't you know, she'd call.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Herself, So somebody called, I think the problem and she
- 3:04Speaker 3: had reportedly complained about back pain.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Prior to her death.
- 3:09Speaker 3: The thing is is, I think what Brian is trying
- 3:11Speaker 3: to do here is you have to limit your any
- 3:15Speaker 3: type of responsibility because the thing is is if there
- 3:19Speaker 3: was illegal drugs involved, which one can put two and
- 3:23Speaker 3: two together and assume that that is what was happening.
- 3:26Speaker 3: She was in an apartment complex in Greenville, South Carolina.
- 3:29Speaker 3: The woman was a very famous actress.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Yes, why is.
- 3:33Speaker 3: She in an apartment building in Greenville, South Carolina.
- 3:37Speaker 2: The problem now that Brian.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Faces is with a lot of these cases, as you
- 3:42Speaker 3: saw with the ketamine queen, the dealer. If it turns
- 3:46Speaker 3: out to be that, they will hunt that dealer down.
- 3:49Speaker 3: And again, a dealer, we'll go to jail for murder.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Yes, And so they should like it's very rare that
- 3:58Speaker 1: the dealer's ever get charged in a lot of cases,
- 4:01Speaker 1: of a lot of celebrity deaths. Matthew Perry's was so outrageous.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Michael Jackson was so outrageous that I'm told that this
- 4:07Speaker 1: is happening now. I'm working on a news story today
- 4:09Speaker 1: for my substack and a police source of mind told
- 4:13Speaker 1: me arrests will be made, and they said they have
- 4:16Speaker 1: taken phones, they have taken computers, and the complex was
- 4:20Speaker 1: pretty middle class, and said there were cameras everywhere. There
- 4:24Speaker 1: are cameras everywhere. They know who went in. If you
- 4:27Speaker 1: were a maid, if you're a delivery person, if you
- 4:29Speaker 1: were dropping off flowers, if you were picking up dry cleaning,
- 4:32Speaker 1: they know, if you called an uber, they know. So
- 4:34Speaker 1: they saw people coming in and out. Now, if the
- 4:36Speaker 1: drugs were delivered to that apartment, it will be on video.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't have a doorbell, but there are videos
- 4:43Speaker 1: throughout the entire complex that police have those videos. She
- 4:47Speaker 1: didn't know people there. She's not from there. He is,
- 4:50Speaker 1: So she didn't know drug dealers in town. It was
- 4:53Speaker 1: not her wage. I'm sure she had numbers in New
- 4:56Speaker 1: York and LA. She admitted that she had a substance problem,
- 5:00Speaker 1: and if you do have a substance problem, you're going
- 5:03Speaker 1: to know people that give you stuff for that problem.
- 5:05Speaker 1: And so if you go through her phone, there's going
- 5:08Speaker 1: to be some really dark, dangerous people in the phone.
- 5:10Speaker 1: But not in South Carolina. Who knows that neighborhood. He's
- 5:15Speaker 1: from there, his brother lives there. And so this now,
- 5:19Speaker 1: I think the noose is tightening. We're going to get
- 5:22Speaker 1: find out more and more information. If you remember, initially
- 5:25Speaker 1: they said there was nothing suspected, no foul play with
- 5:29Speaker 1: Matthew Perry. We knew it was a drug overdose. Well
- 5:32Speaker 1: how did those drugs get there? It's those details now
- 5:35Speaker 1: that are going to come forward bit by bit. The
- 5:37Speaker 1: other thing, too, Donnie, that never lies is your cell phone.
- 5:41Speaker 1: If you take your phone. I've seen enough Nancy Grace
- 5:45Speaker 1: to know if you commit a murder, you leave your
- 5:47Speaker 1: phone home because it's pinging on those towers. So now
- 5:50Speaker 1: we know he was there, his brother was there. She died.
- 5:55Speaker 1: She's thirty six years old. She's not eighty six. She's
- 5:59Speaker 1: thirty six years old. People who are thirty six do
- 6:02Speaker 1: not die. Now. Yes, she had some back trouble and
- 6:05Speaker 1: she was on prescription drugs. They don't kill you. People
- 6:08Speaker 1: with back trouble don't die. They take muscle relaxance, they
- 6:12Speaker 1: take painkillers. Was there maybe an abusive relationship with painkillers.
- 6:17Speaker 1: We'll find out, but this sounds to me like an
- 6:20Speaker 1: illegal drug, not a painkiller. And now the police want
- 6:25Speaker 1: to know how did she get them, who was involved
- 6:30Speaker 1: and if the person calling the drug dealer was somebody else.
- 6:34Speaker 1: They have got your phone, which brings us to our
- 6:36Speaker 1: whole question of the day. Hayden Panatea's boyfriend showed police
- 6:42Speaker 1: a bag of her medication prescription medication at the scene.
- 6:46Speaker 1: An unusual thing for him to do. Was he trying
- 6:49Speaker 1: to cover something up? Was he saying she was a
- 6:51Speaker 1: drug addict? She was doing so many drugs. Maybe it
- 6:53Speaker 1: was a toxic combination. Maybe she took too many painkillers.
- 6:57Speaker 1: What do you think is he trying to cover something?
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- 7:08Speaker 1: be sure to check back Timaraua to hear your results. Hey, Donnie,
- 7:14Speaker 1: what are you working on?
- 7:16Speaker 3: Sticking with Hayden pit tier So Brian Hickerson. There are
- 7:19Speaker 3: reports now saying that you know, as the police arrived,
- 7:24Speaker 3: as everything was going on, he was rather steal, just
- 7:27Speaker 3: kind of even keeled, and he didn't get emotional until
- 7:31Speaker 3: she was pronounced dead at two thirty one PM.
- 7:36Speaker 2: No, I know a lot of.
- 7:37Speaker 3: People can look at that and think immediately want to
- 7:39Speaker 3: go to foul play, want to go to that. The
- 7:41Speaker 3: thing is, if there was a legal drug being used,
- 7:46Speaker 3: you usually don't do those by yourself, if you're surrounded
- 7:50Speaker 3: with other people in the apartment.
- 7:52Speaker 1: And look at the time, donn it's two in the afternoon.
- 7:54Speaker 1: This is not two am. She has not been at
- 7:56Speaker 1: dancing all night at a bar. She has not been
- 7:58Speaker 1: at one of those easy places you go to in
- 8:01Speaker 1: New York till three in the morning. What time did
- 8:04Speaker 1: you use the finish workout when you went to the bar?
- 8:06Speaker 1: What time? Well, we didn't close to four cup.
- 8:09Speaker 3: Sometimes we would hang out and drink after.
- 8:12Speaker 1: It so you could get home around five a. Oh, Johnny,
- 8:16Speaker 1: it wasn't that this was a two o'clock overdose, And
- 8:20Speaker 1: you're right, you don't. Mainly people don't just sit there
- 8:24Speaker 1: and do drugs by themselves.
- 8:26Speaker 2: So he could have been on them too.
- 8:29Speaker 3: And the problem is when you're using those any type
- 8:32Speaker 3: of illegal drugs, you're not yourself. So for him, he
- 8:36Speaker 3: could have just been there but didn't really realize what
- 8:39Speaker 3: was going on. And then once you're pronounced dead, I
- 8:42Speaker 3: think it all kind of hits you. You're like, oh
- 8:44Speaker 3: my gosh, this really happened. There's also a sense of
- 8:48Speaker 3: the two of them, him and his brother are lucky that,
- 8:51Speaker 3: you know, something didn't happen to them. So I think
- 8:54Speaker 3: that what I do want people to realize is don't
- 8:56Speaker 3: immediately throw negativity onto him, to think, oh, he wasn't. Emotionally,
- 9:02Speaker 3: everybody processes things differently. They also he could have been
- 9:06Speaker 3: on the scene.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm told that they did drug test him and
- 9:12Speaker 1: his brother, so we will know. Now there's still a
- 9:16Speaker 1: stretch there between three people doing drugs together and one dying,
- 9:21Speaker 1: and that's what they're trying to fit together. Okay, moving along,
- 9:26Speaker 1: Hayden's friends were kept in the dark about her reunion
- 9:30Speaker 1: with Brian. So she got back with him, and she
- 9:33Speaker 1: didn't tell her friends he was back in her life.
- 9:36Speaker 1: But it was something she sort of kept on the
- 9:37Speaker 1: down low. She was hiding it a little bit. I
- 9:39Speaker 1: spoke to some friends and they said they knew that
- 9:42Speaker 1: she liked him, but it was on again, off again,
- 9:44Speaker 1: on again, off again. But then after he punched her
- 9:47Speaker 1: in the face, like this is somebody who was convicted
- 9:49Speaker 1: of dovestic domestic violence allegations. Here he went to jail,
- 9:55Speaker 1: he hit us. So after that, remember they had a
- 9:58Speaker 1: big punch up at La X in March. And so
- 10:02Speaker 1: this is just a toxic relationship. We have example after example.
- 10:06Speaker 1: And then in May she she then came out with
- 10:10Speaker 1: her memoir where she told the truth about this sick relationship.
- 10:15Speaker 1: I'm told that while she was doing publicity for that book.
- 10:18Speaker 1: For that memoir, he was often with her in the
- 10:21Speaker 1: green room. He would go with her to interviews. They
- 10:25Speaker 1: were together. And then you don't fly to South Carolina
- 10:27Speaker 1: with somebody who has a restraint. You have a restraining good.
- 10:31Speaker 1: He's not really technically allowed on that plane. And so
- 10:35Speaker 1: this is very very complicated. It is interesting, though, if
- 10:38Speaker 1: you don't want to introduce your friends to a boyfriend
- 10:42Speaker 1: to another friend. It's a red flag, Donnie, there's something
- 10:46Speaker 1: something here. What do you think?
- 10:48Speaker 3: You don't hide? You know, Prince Charming, right, you don't hide.
- 10:54Speaker 3: You know, you don't hide printerry. If you're making market,
- 10:56Speaker 3: you know, you tell everybody that you're with it.
- 10:59Speaker 2: You should. You're hiding them for a reason. You're hiding
- 11:01Speaker 2: the reunion. It could be because of shame. It could
- 11:04Speaker 2: be because of embarrassment. Your friends are going to tell
- 11:07Speaker 2: you what, like, what do you do? That's why you
- 11:11Speaker 2: hide somebody?
- 11:12Speaker 1: That's why you hide. Someday? Would you tell a friend
- 11:15Speaker 1: the truth if they had a stinker of a boyfriend,
- 11:17Speaker 1: somebody that had hit them, somebody that had been in jail,
- 11:20Speaker 1: someone you had a restraining order against. If they turned
- 11:23Speaker 1: up with that guy, what would you say?
- 11:25Speaker 3: Of course I would tell. The problem is, though, is
- 11:27Speaker 3: what happened? Thought of these situations. I would not hang
- 11:32Speaker 3: out with that person. So a lot of people stop
- 11:33Speaker 3: hanging out with that person I did. It isolates them
- 11:36Speaker 3: even more and the only person they have is that
- 11:39Speaker 3: a user because everyone's abandoned them.
- 11:41Speaker 1: That's so smart on it. I do that too, If
- 11:45Speaker 1: I if I mean, I don't mind a confrontation. I
- 11:47Speaker 1: can certainly stand up for myself and my friends. But
- 11:52Speaker 1: if miss de was stating somebody that was a real stinker,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I would tell her and then she wouldn't like that,
- 11:58Speaker 1: and then I would withdraw, and then what would I do?
- 12:01Speaker 1: I'd push her deeper further into his arms. Because all
- 12:04Speaker 1: the friends, it's a complicated thing. Oh, relationships, they must
- 12:09Speaker 1: must be psychological analysis of this. We're not psychologists, and
- 12:13Speaker 1: we don't pretend to be. But why do people date
- 12:17Speaker 1: bad men and women? It's not something I've ever done.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I don't know, Donny. I've never really had a stinker
- 12:25Speaker 1: of a boyfriend. I've geated people that were not right
- 12:27Speaker 1: for me, but they were very nice guys. They just
- 12:30Speaker 1: weren't my fit. Now you quite like a bad boy,
- 12:32Speaker 1: don't you.
- 12:32Speaker 2: I did.
- 12:34Speaker 3: There's a problem, which is why I think I'm still single,
- 12:37Speaker 3: because I do like one.
- 12:38Speaker 2: But I won't put up too much either. I can
- 12:41Speaker 2: put up in that much like you can. You know,
- 12:43Speaker 2: you can go so far and then I'm like, all right.
- 12:45Speaker 1: You got but interested. After you kick them out, you
- 12:49Speaker 1: have a little time, a little relaxation, you cleanse your palate.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Then you find another bad boy.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Yessyle, that's what it's.
- 12:57Speaker 1: That's a vicious scle. I hope your mom is not
- 13:00Speaker 1: listening to this. I hope she's looking at the window
- 13:03Speaker 1: at those wails. Okay, moving along. When I find an
- 13:06Speaker 1: out that Hayden was battling some very serious health issues
- 13:10Speaker 1: before her death, tell us what her hairdresser is saying.
- 13:13Speaker 1: He's saying that there was a lot of issues. What's
- 13:15Speaker 1: going on?
- 13:16Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, as I mentioned before, she had been reportedly
- 13:19Speaker 3: suffering back pain and a lot of pain.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Her hairdresser Eric.
- 13:23Speaker 3: Or Elena, She said that it was even hard for
- 13:25Speaker 3: her to move her legs to one point, and there
- 13:29Speaker 3: was back in March, she was photographed using crutches at Lax.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Now.
- 13:34Speaker 3: The problem is is the two of them had recently
- 13:36Speaker 3: got into a fight, so a lot of people might
- 13:38Speaker 3: have put too and two together. That's why she was
- 13:40Speaker 3: on crutches, not experiencing. Obviously she had whatever pain. If
- 13:45Speaker 3: she had any sorts of medical issues and diagnosis that
- 13:49Speaker 3: has been kept under wraps. Obviously you will find out
- 13:52Speaker 3: because you will come out in the autopsy, and if
- 13:55Speaker 3: she had.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Any underlying issues, we will find out.
- 13:57Speaker 3: But the prompt is even if it was prescribed medication,
- 14:02Speaker 3: that's your overdosed on. That is a real issue because
- 14:06Speaker 3: if you said there was nine there in one world,
- 14:10Speaker 3: does a doctor need to prescribe somebody nine.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Nine medcat It's a lot we know that celebrities. It's
- 14:18Speaker 1: called doctor shopping, isn't it, where you go from doctor
- 14:20Speaker 1: to doctor to doctor. I've actually worked with a few
- 14:23Speaker 1: people that I haven't expected do that, and sometimes they're
- 14:26Speaker 1: really really out of it, and it's very, very worrying.
- 14:30Speaker 1: I've also been at a celebrity's house and I wasn't snooping,
- 14:34Speaker 1: although I it wouldn't be past me, but in this instance,
- 14:37Speaker 1: I was actually innocent. I went to their bathroom and
- 14:39Speaker 1: it wasn't in the bathroom cabinet, but lined upon the
- 14:41Speaker 1: sinc were different medications. I didn't look at the medications
- 14:45Speaker 1: because that, even for me, would be a little bit
- 14:46Speaker 1: too much. But they weren't under her name. No, that's
- 14:50Speaker 1: that's what I knew. And they weren't like her daughter's
- 14:54Speaker 1: name or somebody that was living in the flats, the
- 14:58Speaker 1: random names and no, so this is gonna be This
- 15:01Speaker 1: is why this case is so interesting. This is why
- 15:04Speaker 1: we can't turn away. Yes, it's a tragedy, a human tragedy,
- 15:07Speaker 1: but it's also too a real revelation about Hollywood, about celebrity,
- 15:10Speaker 1: about fame, about child stars, about access to drugs, about
- 15:14Speaker 1: shady hangers on, about shady doctors. This case has it all,
- 15:18Speaker 1: and we're going to keep bringing it to you. Okay,
- 15:20Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and we will
- 15:22Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty Britt Nichammi
- 15:27Speaker 1: host or Huge A dear friend johny Meach and hey Donnie,
- 15:29Speaker 1: let's get to the polls. Last year we talked about
- 15:33Speaker 1: Hayden pan Tea flew from Los Angeles to South Carolina
- 15:37Speaker 1: with on again, off again boyfriend Brian Hickerson. That name
- 15:40Speaker 1: keeps coming up. Is he involved in this? What do
- 15:43Speaker 1: you think? We don't have any evidence for what do
- 15:45Speaker 1: you think? Ninety three percent said yes, absolutely there is.
- 15:50Speaker 1: There is gonna be a huge revelation. Hey, don't forget
- 15:53Speaker 1: to vote on today's pole. Go to our Twitter, our
- 15:56Speaker 1: ex page and naughty nice Roma page to your sip
- 16:02Speaker 1: and be sure to check back time I wrote. Your
- 16:04Speaker 1: results are now It's time we found a nice one.
- 16:09Speaker 1: It's it's a dark day, but we found at least
- 16:11Speaker 1: one person who was the nicest of the day.
- 16:16Speaker 2: It's Connie Britain, amazing actress. Connie. She starred with Hayden.
- 16:21Speaker 3: In Nashville, the huge show Nashville, and she did a
- 16:25Speaker 3: tribute to Hayden and she put up pictures of Hayden
- 16:29Speaker 3: from the show Nashville, which was obviously a much better
- 16:33Speaker 3: time for the actress, and she said, this was Hayden
- 16:37Speaker 3: bursting with brilliance, shining so bright. I have no words
- 16:41Speaker 3: for this, said song, just heartbreak. I love you girl,
- 16:45Speaker 3: sleep easy.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Now beautiful, well, beautiful, beautiful.
- 16:49Speaker 2: It's sweet. It doesn't make it about you. People do
- 16:53Speaker 2: look at me, look at me with this dead person.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Now, no, it's not your moment. A beautiful, beautiful tribute
- 17:00Speaker 1: to now. I noticed the day Naughty noughteen, remember the Titans.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Remember that movie she was in. It's a great movie.
- 17:06Speaker 1: She was just a kid in this.
- 17:07Speaker 2: Well.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Now, one of the stars of that a guy called Ethan,
- 17:09Speaker 1: Sir Sir Plea. I've not heard of him before, but
- 17:12Speaker 1: I did recognize his face. He was in the movie.
- 17:14Speaker 1: He reveals, and this is white so big, because this
- 17:16Speaker 1: gives you an insight into Hollywood at the premiere in
- 17:19Speaker 1: two thousand for a big movie, remember The Titans. He
- 17:23Speaker 1: was on heroin. So he admits that he was using
- 17:28Speaker 1: drugs and he saw Hayden there and it gave him
- 17:31Speaker 1: a moment of relief, and he talked about his addiction.
- 17:35Speaker 1: He talked about how he smoked heroin at the premiere.
- 17:39Speaker 1: This is aggressive. This is not before the premiere, after
- 17:41Speaker 1: the premiere. At the premiere, he was smoking heroin. He
- 17:45Speaker 1: went to his bed, not even knowing if he would
- 17:47Speaker 1: wake up. The reason that this story is so important
- 17:51Speaker 1: is that this is what Hollywood is. We've been to premieres,
- 17:55Speaker 1: don it. We've been to red carpet events. It's not
- 17:59Speaker 1: all glamor and glittering. Fact, it's normally the opposite. There's
- 18:03Speaker 1: a real sadness about Sunset Boulevard, about Hollywood, about the
- 18:07Speaker 1: movie movie business. And I don't want to rain on
- 18:09Speaker 1: anybody's prayed. We love going to the movies, but know
- 18:12Speaker 1: the actual business of the movies, not the movies. The
- 18:16Speaker 1: business of the movies are sometimes very very dark. Okay,
- 18:20Speaker 1: let's end with a happier moment of Rob. You Rob,
- 18:24Speaker 1: This is really true, and a friend said this to
- 18:26Speaker 1: me a couple of days ago, and I wanted to
- 18:27Speaker 1: do this as a moment of rob I texted myself immediately.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Sometimes people hate you for being who they pretend to be.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Let me say that again. Sometimes people hate you for
- 18:38Speaker 1: being who they pretend to be. So some people are
- 18:42Speaker 1: going to hate you simply because you make them uncomfortable,
- 18:46Speaker 1: because you are a version that they want to be themselves.
- 18:49Speaker 1: You're a version that they are pretending to be. Your
- 18:52Speaker 1: confidence reminds them of what they are afraid of. You're
- 18:56Speaker 1: honestly exposes the masks that they are wearing. Your happiness
- 19:01Speaker 1: it makes them feel even unhappy and more unhappy with
- 19:05Speaker 1: who they are, So don't take it personally. Their reaction
- 19:09Speaker 1: has nothing to do with you. Sometimes you simply become
- 19:14Speaker 1: a mirror of what they don't want to face. But
- 19:17Speaker 1: keep being yourself. Do don't shrink, don't apologize, and don't
- 19:22Speaker 1: change anything to make somebody else comfortable. You are you.
- 19:27Speaker 1: That is fascinating A lot of times people I still
- 19:30Speaker 1: you know, I bristle when people don't like me, and
- 19:33Speaker 1: there will be people out there that don't like you
- 19:36Speaker 1: for no reason. But maybe that reason is that I
- 19:39Speaker 1: am a version of myself who they would love to be.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Think about it. That is it for today. Give your
- 19:48Speaker 1: love to your mommy, Go and find those wails. How
- 19:51Speaker 1: should ear, Donnie? Last week you told us about a
- 19:53Speaker 1: little bit of ear surgery. It's still there. You can
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