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Ep. 285 - A Bold, Biblical Battle Plan Against Pornography · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:04
  Mark Spence: I actually was reading a statistic earlier in the day that said between the ages of 12 and 17, 93% of boys have viewed pornography and are regular watchers of pornography, 93% between the ages of 12 and 17.
• 1:21
  Mark Spence: I remember John Piper.
• 1:23
  Mark Spence: When somebody was entering into his seminary, he used to ask the question have you ever looked at pornography?
• 1:28
  Mark Spence: And he changed that question to when was the last time you looked at pornography?
• 1:32
  Mark Spence: Because he realized that it was closer to 100% of people used to either have a problem with it or would look at it.
• 1:40
  Mark Spence: And most people would not claim they had a problem with it.
• 1:42
  Mark Spence: They're just kind of dabbling in it or they're checking things out.
• 1:47
  Mark Spence: You do not need to go looking for pornography, it will come finding you.
• 1:51
  Mark Spence: I believe that one of the greatest things that we can do is first acknowledge that there is a problem out there.
• 1:56
  Mark Spence: Whether you have a problem with it or not, you do have a problem with it.
• 2:01
  Mark Spence: There's a fight, that is a raging war against your soul Every single day.
• 2:08
  Mark Spence: You need to be on your guard, because it desires to sift your soul like wheat.
• 2:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Few things in life friends bring me more joy than discovering facts that I'm certain Ray Comfort does not know.
• 2:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, I am so certain about this, I would almost bet your life on it.
• 2:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Whoa, that's how certain I am.
• 2:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, have you ever heard of the Indonesian black chicken?
• 2:43
  Ray Comfort: That's the one with the fluffy up here up top.
• 2:45
  Ray Comfort: No, oh, it's the one without the fluffy here on top.
• 2:48
  Ray Comfort: Yes, but no too, it's the one with the fluffy up here up top.
• 2:49
  Emeal Zwayne: No, oh, it's the one without the fluffy here on top.
• 2:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, yes, but no two.
• 2:51
  Emeal Zwayne: It's called the.
• 2:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I am Kamani.
• 2:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I am Kamani, the Indonesian black chicken.
• 2:58
  Emeal Zwayne: You've never heard of it, ray, I may have, because there's a lot of different chickens.
• 3:02
  Ray Comfort: No, no, not this one.
• 3:03
  Ray Comfort: Oh, this feels so good.
• 3:05
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm reveling in this right now.
• 3:06
  Emeal Zwayne: I've got to get this chicken.
• 3:07
  Emeal Zwayne: It's so cool.
• 3:09
  Ray Comfort: Could you guys please pray for my wife.
• 3:11
  Ray Comfort: She'll soften her heart when it comes to getting more chickens.
• 3:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray's chicken addiction.
• 3:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, ray, this is an all black chicken.
• 3:20
  Emeal Zwayne: So all black feathers black eyes, black beak, black tongue, black skin, black organs, even black bones.
• 3:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you know what you call this thing?
• 3:33
  Ray Comfort: right up here.
• 3:34
  Ray Comfort: What's it called, ray?
• 3:35
  Ray Comfort: It's your hand.
• 3:37
  Ray Comfort: No, what's it called, ray?
• 3:38
  Ray Comfort: It's not the crop, it's the.
• 3:40
  Ray Comfort: I keep forgetting, I'm sorry.
• 3:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Hat.
• 3:42
  Emeal Zwayne: It's the hat.
• 3:43
  Emeal Zwayne: It's the comb.
• 3:43
  Emeal Zwayne: It's the comb, ray.
• 3:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, and what are these things down here, ray?
• 3:47
  Ray Comfort: Collar.
• 3:47
  Emeal Zwayne: No, the chicken has.
• 3:50
  Ray Comfort: It's eggs.
• 3:51
  Emeal Zwayne: More things Ray doesn't know of.
• 3:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, Waddles, they're called waddles.
• 3:56
  Emeal Zwayne: I didn't know this.
• 3:57
  Emeal Zwayne: This is wonderful, A chicken owner.
• 3:58
  Emeal Zwayne: As long as you and you don't know this stuff, I'm educating you today.
• 4:00
  Emeal Zwayne: It's only been 40 years.
• 4:01
  Emeal Zwayne: The comb and the waddles right.
• 4:04
  Ray Comfort: Is it a comb?
• 4:04
  Oscar Navarro: or a cone.
• 4:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar's looking at it.
• 4:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Show him Oscar Dude.
• 4:07
  Emeal Zwayne: This thing's crazy, isn't it crazy?
• 4:08
  Emeal Zwayne: It looks like an alien.
• 4:09
  Emeal Zwayne: It's black, the meat's black, the bone's black, the eggs are black.
• 4:14
  Ray Comfort: I was going to say the eggs are black.
• 4:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, the eggs may be fake on their own.
• 4:17
  Oscar Navarro: So come on is this natural.
• 4:18
  Oscar Navarro: No, it's on Google.
• 4:29
  Emeal Zwayne: It's got to be real.
• 4:29
  Emeal Zwayne: No, it's Israel.
• 4:29
  Emeal Zwayne: It is Israel, israel, jerusalem.
• 4:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I want to eat this.
• 4:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, where did you find this?
• 4:32
  Emeal Zwayne: It came up in my feed today.
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know.
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm like come on, I got so excited.
• 4:37
  Ray Comfort: Ray has no idea Are you going to send me the link?
• 4:39
  Emeal Zwayne: About the black chicken he's going to have like 18 of them tomorrow.
• 4:42
  Emeal Zwayne: It's one of the rarest chickens and it's crazy, yeah, and even as a delicacy, because the meat is black, you call it meat the poultry.
• 4:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 4:52
  Oscar Navarro: I guess, it's meat.
• 4:54
  Emeal Zwayne: The flesh is blank.
• 4:55
  Emeal Zwayne: When he moves his eyes back and forth, he's thinking.
• 5:00
  Oscar Navarro: He's like I could build a bigger coop in the front yard.
• 5:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, the story in the Bible about building bigger barns.
• 5:08
  Ray Comfort: I like that.
• 5:08
  Ray Comfort: Make sure I'm rich towards heaven and I build a bigger barn.
• 5:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh man.
• 5:14
  Emeal Zwayne: So Ray, this is my question Is there a dwarf chicken?
• 5:18
  Emeal Zwayne: A dwarf chicken?
• 5:21
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, is there tiny chickens?
• 5:22
  Ray Comfort: Oh they are.
• 5:22
  Ray Comfort: They're called.
• 5:23
  Ray Comfort: I've forgotten the name of them.
• 5:25
  Ray Comfort: Seriously, bantams.
• 5:26
  Ray Comfort: Really, type in Bantam.
• 5:28
  Ray Comfort: I don't believe you, I'm serious Bantamweight.
• 5:30
  Emeal Zwayne: You're just trying to pretend like you know something.
• 5:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Someone do a Bantam search.
• 5:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Bantam Find it Oscar.
• 5:35
  Emeal Zwayne: But Ray, as Oscar searches for something that doesn't exist, my question to you is why did you never use chickens for open air preaching?
• 5:44
  Ray Comfort: I did.
• 5:44
  Ray Comfort: You're being sarcastic, aren't you?
• 5:46
  Ray Comfort: Wait, you're joking, I'm not joking.
• 5:48
  Ray Comfort: I used to carry a chicken.
• 5:49
  Ray Comfort: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
• 5:50
  Ray Comfort: I had this rubber chicken, I'd bring out and shake it and then I'd have an ostrich egg that I used to use.
• 5:55
  Ray Comfort: Mark's looking for the chicken that Ken Ham gave you.
• 5:58
  Emeal Zwayne: I know you are Mark.
• 6:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Eddie got rid of it.
• 6:02
  Ray Comfort: Where'd it go?
• 6:03
  Ray Comfort: What?
• 6:03
  Emeal Zwayne: That is terrible.
• 6:05
  Emeal Zwayne: We need to paint it black, though, now.
• 6:07
  Oscar Navarro: Look, there really is Bantam chickens.
• 6:13
  Emeal Zwayne: They're like Ray Comfort's side.
• 6:14
  Ray Comfort: No way, they're like birds.
• 6:15
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, they just look like ordinary chickens, but they're smaller.
• 6:17
  Emeal Zwayne: So Ray, you should use those and the black chickens for open-air preaching.
• 6:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I'd love to oh yeah, you can paint your chickens, polka-dotted chickens.
• 6:27
  Ray Comfort: It's got to be against the law.
• 6:28
  Ray Comfort: Save our chickens to be after me, peter.
• 6:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, ray, give up your chickens, get behind me, get behind me, he says Ray.
• 6:38
  Emeal Zwayne: What would it?
• 6:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, seriously, what would it take to get you to give up your chickens?
• 6:44
  Ray Comfort: If the almighty came down.
• 6:45
  Ray Comfort: Thank you, Joe Biden.
• 6:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Boy.
• 6:50
  Emeal Zwayne: He didn't hold to that, did he?
• 6:52
  Emeal Zwayne: That was ridiculous, mark.
• 6:54
  Emeal Zwayne: By the way, mark, we do need an update.
• 6:56
  Emeal Zwayne: What's going on with your new bird watching?
• 7:00
  Mark Spence: Oh, I love it.
• 7:00
  Mark Spence: There's an app that you may absolutely love Ray.
• 7:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark got a bunch of bird feeders.
• 7:07
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah you can tell what bird it is by the sound Can't hand.
• 7:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Send that to me.
• 7:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Is it?
• 7:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Does that really work?
• 7:11
  Mark Spence: It is so amazing You've used it, Mark.
• 7:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I use it all the time it's like.
• 7:14
  Oscar Navarro: Shazam for birds.
• 7:15
  Mark Spence: Yeah, it's called Merlin Bird.
• 7:18
  Emeal Zwayne: You just turn it on and it'll play all the birds and it'll tell you and it's actually.
• 7:22
  Emeal Zwayne: You confirm it.
• 7:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Different types of sounds.
• 7:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Show you a picture.
• 7:25
  Emeal Zwayne: It looks like the bird.
• 7:25
  Emeal Zwayne: What do?
• 7:27
  Mark Spence: you mean three kinds of sounds, three different types of sounds.
• 7:29
  Mark Spence: There's a call when it's calling other birds.
• 7:32
  Mark Spence: Then there's a song where they're just singing.
• 7:34
  Mark Spence: And then when they're being eaten, what about when they're getting ran over?
• 7:41
  Mark Spence: Same noise, okay.
• 7:42
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what they say, right?
• 7:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Sounds like a full bird that just ate something.
• 7:46
  Mark Spence: When Sounds like a full bird that just ate something.
• 7:49
  Emeal Zwayne: When I was at the Olympics.
• 7:50
  Mark Spence: I asked my wife if she fed the birdies, and she did not.
• 7:53
  Oscar Navarro: She said no, I saved it for you and I go.
• 7:55
  Mark Spence: that's just because you didn't want to feed the birds.
• 7:56
  Mark Spence: How long were you away At the Olympics?
• 7:58
  Mark Spence: We were gone for two weeks.
• 7:59
  Mark Spence: They all died.
• 8:00
  Emeal Zwayne: How often, mark, how often do you have to replenish?
• 8:03
  Emeal Zwayne: They're all side birds right.
• 8:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, how often do you have?
• 8:04
  Mark Spence: to replenish the seeds.
• 8:05
  Mark Spence: I did it this morning.
• 8:07
  Mark Spence: I probably do it every two days, three days.
• 8:10
  Mark Spence: Did you mirror the glass?
• 8:11
  Emeal Zwayne: That often.
• 8:12
  Oscar Navarro: No we don't, I couldn't figure it out.
• 8:14
  Mark Spence: Oh, I can do it for you.
• 8:15
  Oscar Navarro: Mark, are you turning into a bird guy?
• 8:16
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, I love birds.
• 8:18
  Mark Spence: Yeah, I'll go on a walk and then I play the little sound of hearing the bird.
• 8:20
  Emeal Zwayne: But seriously, you think about what this means to the birds of the neighborhood?
• 8:24
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like, I mean, you know birds are running around looking pecking, little here, little there.
• 8:29
  Emeal Zwayne: You're giving them like a full feast.
• 8:31
  Mark Spence: Yeah, my neighbor who loves birds himself.
• 8:34
  Mark Spence: I went over to his house and I was talking to him and I go boy, these bird the finches.
• 8:37
  Mark Spence: They make such beautiful noise.
• 8:39
  Mark Spence: He's like I hate the finches, I kill them.
• 8:40
  Mark Spence: I'm like, wait what he's like the bluebirds?
• 8:44
  Mark Spence: I feed them little mealworms right out of my mouth.
• 8:46
  Mark Spence: I put a little mealworm in my mouth, I kill them.
• 8:47
  Mark Spence: I kill the finches.
• 8:49
  Mark Spence: That's why I have so many finches over at my house.
• 8:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm really concerned about.
• 8:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Have you heard these parrots that have been migrating?
• 8:57
  Mark Spence: Oh yeah, they are dry.
• 8:58
  Emeal Zwayne: They're like from Hacienda Heights or something, and they come over.
• 9:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, they are the most annoying.
• 9:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll kill those.
• 9:05
  Oscar Navarro: They're beautiful.
• 9:06
  Oscar Navarro: We have a lot of swallows.
• 9:08
  Oscar Navarro: I mean swallows yeah.
• 9:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you guys have swallows when I'm eating?
• 9:10
  Emeal Zwayne: I knew it.
• 9:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm like, okay, as you said that, I'm like Ray's brain is going right now to think of a pun.
• 9:16
  Emeal Zwayne: You have a lot of swallows, yeah all the time.
• 9:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah all the time.
• 9:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Unreal, mark, he does, I'm sure you're just.
• 9:26
  Emeal Zwayne: I think we can have chickens.
• 9:27
  Ray Comfort: In our area, can't we?
• 9:29
  Ray Comfort: No, I, I don't know.
• 9:30
  Ray Comfort: He doesn't allow them.
• 9:30
  Ray Comfort: They lay eggs, do you know that.
• 9:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Wait, mark, what's?
• 9:32
  Emeal Zwayne: You have a weird smirk On your face.
• 9:35
  Mark Spence: I love fresh eggs.
• 9:36
  Mark Spence: If Ray would ever Bring me eggs, I'll eat them.
• 9:38
  Mark Spence: We eat so many eggs At our house but you know I don't know we, because they'd have too much fun running after them.
• 9:45
  Mark Spence: Get the chicken.
• 9:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Rocky, slaying them by the heads, get the chicken.
• 9:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Remember Rocky?
• 9:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, facing the chicken.
• 9:51
  Mark Spence: Getting the chicken.
• 9:53
  Emeal Zwayne: They're hard, they're actually hard to catch.
• 9:55
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, very hard to catch.
• 9:56
  Emeal Zwayne: And they run so fast.
• 9:57
  Mark Spence: Speaking of which the dinosaurs.
• 10:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah.
• 10:00
  Mark Spence: After the Olympics, I went to Switzerland and I was, and then, nathaniel, I was there too, actually.
• 10:08
  Oscar Navarro: Just not with you.
• 10:09
  Mark Spence: Yeah, we did.
• 10:10
  Mark Spence: It was a crazy hike where we had to use carabiners and strap into.
• 10:14
  Mark Spence: It's called something.
• 10:15
  Oscar Navarro: What is it called?
• 10:15
  Oscar Navarro: Do you remember?
• 10:16
  Oscar Navarro: I don't remember.
• 10:16
  Oscar Navarro: There's a specific name for that kind of thing.
• 10:19
  Mark Spence: I don't remember what it is.
• 10:21
  Mark Spence: It's extreme hiking.
• 10:22
  Mark Spence: They can find the body.
• 10:24
  Mark Spence: That's really good, yeah, yeah.
• 10:27
  Mark Spence: But while we were there in Switzerland, we came across Albert Einstein's house.
• 10:31
  Mark Spence: Oh yeah, it was a museum.
• 10:32
  Mark Spence: It was really, really cool and they don't want you to film inside of it, so we had to pretend like we were taking photos and we were actually doing video.
• 10:40
  Ray Comfort: What's the problem?
• 10:41
  Mark Spence: I don't know, but I picked you up a souvenir.
• 10:44
  Ray Comfort: Oh, really yeah oh really.
• 10:45
  Mark Spence: Yeah, he probably don't want to put it anywhere it's life-size Other than inside the studio, but uh.
• 10:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Ooh, ah, look at this.
• 10:54
  Mark Spence: That is really nice All the photos, though, of him inside of his house look like they are a comfort.
• 10:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, wow, they are a comfort.
• 11:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, Ethan and Tanya were saying look, when you had a mustache.
• 11:07
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you really did.
• 11:09
  Ray Comfort: It was very strange.
• 11:10
  Emeal Zwayne: When you see an Einstein look alike and a man riding a boy's bike break a person down.
• 11:16
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, if I let my hair go, grand, let it hang out, it's the Jewish genes, right, this is very moving, the hands especially.
• 11:26
  Ray Comfort: That is really cool and it's solar.
• 11:29
  Emeal Zwayne: So for those of you that obviously can't see it, it's sunlight, or even light from a light bulb.
• 11:35
  Mark Spence: Is that serious?
• 11:35
  Mark Spence: It makes the hand wave and touch the temple like he's thinking.
• 11:38
  Mark Spence: I figured you could either put it on your bike or put it inside the studio behind you On his bike.
• 11:43
  Ray Comfort: Unlike it sitting on the desk in the studio.
• 11:45
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, I want to say that.
• 11:47
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, enough of the silliness, more silliness.
• 11:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Time for a cool, classy comment.
• 11:53
  Emeal Zwayne: This is from Miranda.
• 11:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Hi everyone.
• 11:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I've been watching the YouTube, living Waters and Just Witnessing channels for quite a while.
• 12:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I never tire of them.
• 12:04
  Emeal Zwayne: They are five stars plus.
• 12:05
  Emeal Zwayne: But this podcast, wow, I haven't turned it off.
• 12:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, easy, mark and Oscar, you guys are bringing the Bible to life for me.
• 12:19
  Emeal Zwayne: All of you have given me so much insight and taken that which was in the dark into the light.
• 12:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Did she name the podcast?
• 12:22
  Emeal Zwayne: No I have lacked courage and boldness and witnessing for too long.
• 12:26
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm ready to move forward onward.
• 12:28
  Emeal Zwayne: You are all well-balanced.
• 12:30
  Emeal Zwayne: You're a well-balanced team who bring out the best in each other.
• 12:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Miranda, Thank you, Miranda.
• 12:37
  Oscar Navarro: To be clear, I've seen Ray try to balance.
• 12:39
  Oscar Navarro: He's not well-balanced.
• 12:40
  Oscar Navarro: No, no, look at him, he's mesmerized.
• 12:42
  Oscar Navarro: He's like.
• 12:42
  Oscar Navarro: I love that.
• 12:43
  Oscar Navarro: I like that.
• 12:44
  Oscar Navarro: I'm gonna write a book about this, ray, you know what would be cool Under that to put Stand Up?
• 12:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm Just a man.
• 12:53
  Ray Comfort: Yes, that's somewhere for people to I do have a book called Einstein, god and the Bible.
• 12:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 12:57
  Ray Comfort: Do you know he didn't like the God that says you shall not commit adultery?
• 13:00
  Ray Comfort: See if you can guess why.
• 13:02
  Emeal Zwayne: He was an adulterer.
• 13:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you don't think about those kinds of people.
• 13:04
  Mark Spence: He married his cousin yeah After his first wife.
• 13:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, crazy, yeah, but Einstein.
• 13:11
  Ray Comfort: He used to get mad at his wife because she would talk when he was trying to think and I can identify with you, all men can identify with you.
• 13:18
  Ray Comfort: Oh, you're in trouble, ray.
• 13:19
  Ray Comfort: I'm sorry.
• 13:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Do we still have that Einstein thingy where?
• 13:23
  Ray Comfort: all of you are around.
• 13:24
  Ray Comfort: Yes, it's in the store.
• 13:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, Good call Mark you around.
• 13:27
  Emeal Zwayne: It's in the store.
• 13:27
  Ray Comfort: Good call, Mark you knew Ray would love that.
• 13:29
  Ray Comfort: What's that?
• 13:29
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• 13:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, Miranda.
• 13:32
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• 13:36
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• 13:40
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• 13:48
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• 13:49
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• 13:49
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• 13:50
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• 13:52
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• 14:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Today we are talking about oh, what do you know?
• 14:06
  Emeal Zwayne: A bold biblical battle plan against pornography.
• 14:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Pornography Boy that word just can really change the atmosphere in a room.
• 14:19
  Emeal Zwayne: It was like do it, yeah, yeah, but it's one of those words that must be used, that must be addressed, because this is a massive, massive problem.
• 14:31
  Emeal Zwayne: We've talked about sexual immorality, kind of in general.
• 14:34
  Emeal Zwayne: We've hit on pornography here or there, but today we really want to focus in on this.
• 14:39
  Emeal Zwayne: We want to hone in on it because it is destroying the world.
• 14:44
  Ray Comfort: And your book is just so timely Flight Like a man.
• 14:46
  Ray Comfort: It's just such a great book Flight, Flight.
• 14:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Flight Like a Can or whatever, something like that, yeah, so yeah, we'll talk about the book, because it ties into this as well.
• 14:59
  Emeal Zwayne: It's not going to be like everything we talk about, obviously but it's only what I'm going to talk about.
• 15:05
  Oscar Navarro: Is that it Oscar?
• 15:06
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, oscar read the book.
• 15:07
  Oscar Navarro: I did On my flight home from Switzerland back to the US.
• 15:11
  Oscar Navarro: I got to read Bite Like a man, oh boy how did you escape?
• 15:18
  Emeal Zwayne: People are going to try to research the book.
• 15:19
  Emeal Zwayne: They find the wrong one.
• 15:22
  Oscar Navarro: It was really good.
• 15:22
  Oscar Navarro: I do want to say.
• 15:23
  Oscar Navarro: I want to open by saying one of the things that I really, I really appreciated is that before you even get into fighting you know, the fight against pornography, against lust you spend a great deal of time focusing on biblical manhood and you, you do a great job of describing manhood as a fight for virtue.
• 15:43
  Oscar Navarro: Uh, in your book, chat GPT says okay.
• 15:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, you're not supposed to tell anyone.
• 15:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Not says I'm kidding Oscar, you're not supposed to tell anyone.
• 15:51
  Oscar Navarro: No, here's, I love this line and I got a question for you.
• 15:53
  Oscar Navarro: Real men demonstrate character, courage, commitment, conviction, devotion and loyalty and, what's more, they're willing to sacrifice for the sake of others and for causes greater than themselves.
• 16:04
  Oscar Navarro: Most importantly, real men are willing to fight for what's right, and they do so with the energy and spirit of those indispensable attributes.
• 16:14
  Oscar Navarro: So the question is like when it comes to talking about fighting for purity, why is it helpful and important to start with the biblical definition of manhood?
• 16:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, because, you know, scripture calls us to quip ourselves like men and to stand up and walk in true manliness and manhood.
• 16:34
  Emeal Zwayne: And today in our culture there's been a twisting of what manhood really is.
• 16:40
  Emeal Zwayne: What is a man?
• 16:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, think about it.
• 16:42
  Emeal Zwayne: To watch a Supreme Court nominee to be a justice of the highest court in the land of the most influential nation on the planet could not give the definition of a woman.
• 16:54
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, like I say in the book Houston, we've got far more than just a problem.
• 16:59
  Emeal Zwayne: We have a catastrophe on our hands, and one of epic proportions.
• 17:03
  Emeal Zwayne: So when we understand what men do, when you look at the biblical model of manhood, you see that men fight.
• 17:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Obviously men will fight physically to protect others and to stand up for those that are weaker.
• 17:19
  Emeal Zwayne: But they also fight on other levels.
• 17:22
  Emeal Zwayne: They fight for their family, they fight for the example that they set for their children, they fight for the glory of God, they fight for the integrity of the gospel, and so that's a part of it, and I try to draw that out in the book, like, hey, we're called as men to fight.
• 17:40
  Emeal Zwayne: And I start by using the example of a man named John Bassalone, who was a hero, a Marine in World War II, and I get into what he did for the sake of his comrades and how he laid his life down on the line for them.
• 17:55
  Emeal Zwayne: It ultimately cost him his life, but the ripple effects of what he did still are impacting people to this day.
• 18:02
  Emeal Zwayne: That's awesome.
• 18:03
  Ray Comfort: Yeah.
• 18:03
  Emeal Zwayne: So yeah, so, so this is.
• 18:06
  Emeal Zwayne: This is a an important topic.
• 18:07
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a heavy topic but, mark, this is something that men need to face instead of run away from because that's what's happening.
• 18:18
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like either a sense of defeat, or it's a sense of this is too pleasurable, or it's a sense of nobody will understand me and no one can help me.
• 18:31
  Mark Spence: We need to be careful with that.
• 18:32
  Mark Spence: We begin to think that nobody understands what I'm going through, nobody understands the fight that I'm in, and that's not the case.
• 18:40
  Mark Spence: I actually was reading a statistic earlier in the day that said between the ages of 12 and 17, 93% of boys have viewed pornography and are regular watchers of pornography 93% between the ages of 12 and 17.
• 18:57
  Mark Spence: I remember John Piper.
• 18:59
  Mark Spence: When somebody was entering into his seminary, he used to ask the question have you ever looked at pornography?
• 19:04
  Mark Spence: And he changed that question to when was the last time you looked at pornography?
• 19:08
  Mark Spence: Because he realized that it was closer to 100% of people used to either have a problem with it or would look at it, and most people would not claim they had a problem with it.
• 19:18
  Mark Spence: They're just kind of dabbling in it or they're checking things out.
• 19:22
  Mark Spence: You do not need to go looking for pornography.
• 19:25
  Mark Spence: It will come finding you.
• 19:28
  Mark Spence: I believe that one of the greatest things that we can do is first acknowledge that there is a problem out there.
• 19:32
  Mark Spence: Whether you have a problem with it or not, you do have a problem with it.
• 19:37
  Mark Spence: There's a fight that is a raging war against your soul every single day.
• 19:44
  Mark Spence: You need to be on your guard because it desires to sift your soul like wheat.
• 19:51
  Mark Spence: 1 John 1.9,.
• 19:54
  Mark Spence: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
• 20:02
  Mark Spence: Admit to yourself, admit to God, admit to friends, that it is very possible for you to fall into that category of looking at that regularly.
• 20:16
  Mark Spence: We can talk about how to avoid that, obviously, but first you have to acknowledge and here's my point that there's a problem.
• 20:22
  Mark Spence: And what are you going to do to avoid that problem?
• 20:27
  Mark Spence: Because it's not going to say you know what, i'm'm gonna go easy on you, I'm not gonna come your way, I don't need to tempt you in this area, I'm gonna tempt you in a different area.
• 20:35
  Mark Spence: No, be on your guard, because your enemy is like a roaring lion, seeking to devour you, to steal, kill and destroy you, and this is typically the avenue and the angle by which he attacks first.
• 20:48
  Mark Spence: Right, right.
• 20:49
  Mark Spence: So there's a problem out there.
• 20:51
  Mark Spence: What are you doing to acknowledge the problem?
• 20:53
  Mark Spence: How are you fighting it?
• 20:54
  Mark Spence: So good, mark.
• 20:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, you know there are some young men that are listening right now, some young teenagers that have never ventured into that arena.
• 21:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I'd love for you to speak to the fact that, if they allow themselves to start, it will be the worst decision they ever make in their life, and that they can't handle it in terms of like turning it off once they turn it on.
• 21:20
  Ray Comfort: My advice to them would be to get the book Bright Like a man.
• 21:23
  Ray Comfort: Bright Like a man.
• 21:27
  Ray Comfort: It's a great book.
• 21:29
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I think we've got to take to heart the words of Jesus.
• 21:33
  Ray Comfort: He that serves sin as a slave of sin and of all the things that can slave you, it's the.
• 21:40
  Ray Comfort: It's the sin of pornography, looking with lust in your heart.
• 21:44
  Ray Comfort: I was just thinking this morning.
• 21:46
  Ray Comfort: The average Christian that loves the Lord doesn't desire to desire other women.
• 21:52
  Ray Comfort: There's something in me that wants to serve God with all my heart, but there's also something in me that's terribly wicked and that's what lust seeks to unlock that wickedness of the human heart.
• 22:04
  Ray Comfort: And you've got to stop.
• 22:05
  Ray Comfort: You've got to get on yourself the feet of Joseph.
• 22:08
  Ray Comfort: Joseph didn't wait to resist temptation, he ran.
• 22:13
  Ray Comfort: And that's what you could do with pornography.
• 22:15
  Ray Comfort: And the problem is that you take your phone with you when you run.
• 22:18
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah.
• 22:19
  Ray Comfort: That's why it's such a temptation for this generation, and the only answer is the fear of God To get in your heart and soul.
• 22:29
  Ray Comfort: The eye of the Lord is in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
• 22:32
  Ray Comfort: And so when you lust after a woman, you commit adultery with her in your heart.
• 22:37
  Ray Comfort: In God's eyes, that's how serious it is, and lust is always a bedfellow of death.
• 22:43
  Ray Comfort: Sin, when it's lust, brings forth sin.
• 22:47
  Ray Comfort: Sin when it's finished brings forth death.
• 22:49
  Ray Comfort: The wages of sin is death.
• 22:51
  Ray Comfort: If you can remember that, when you're embracing lust you're embracing death, you're embracing damnation.
• 22:57
  Ray Comfort: You're giving up your very soul for that pleasure and it's not worth the pain.
• 23:03
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, ray, I love the fact that you mentioned Joseph, and one of the highlights from Joseph's life is the fact that when he resisted Potiphar's wife, he said to her how can I do this thing and sin against God?
• 23:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Have you seen the?
• 23:19
  Ray Comfort: dual meaning of that.
• 23:20
  Emeal Zwayne: No.
• 23:21
  Ray Comfort: I've written it in a book about Joseph.
• 23:23
  Ray Comfort: I can't remember what it's called.
• 23:24
  Ray Comfort: It's the one where Joseph's coat is on the ground.
• 23:28
  Emeal Zwayne: It's been run over by a truck.
• 23:30
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that book, yeah, but he says how can I you throw a comma in there if it's not in there, so you realize what's being said.
• 23:35
  Ray Comfort: How can I do this thing and sin against God?
• 23:39
  Ray Comfort: Leading up to that, he says your husband entrusted me with everything.
• 23:45
  Ray Comfort: The only thing he didn't withhold me from was you.
• 23:48
  Ray Comfort: So how could I do this thing, betray his trust and sin against god?
• 23:55
  Ray Comfort: Wow, and so when you fall into pornography, not only do you sin against god, but you sit against your wife, you betray your wife, you betray all your friends and, uh and your christian walk, wow yeah, you think of joseph.
• 24:07
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, he had, he had full access to indulge his desires at that moment.
• 24:16
  Emeal Zwayne: And obviously she wasn't going to go tell her husband.
• 24:18
  Emeal Zwayne: They were alone in the house.
• 24:20
  Ray Comfort: It was day after day after day.
• 24:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, she kept coming.
• 24:23
  Ray Comfort: And he was like you guys, he was good looking.
• 24:26
  Emeal Zwayne: One of us but the fact that not only did he resist her, not only did he consider his master and not only did he consider I'm going to be sinning against God, but he ran, he ran, he left whatever item of clothing she ripped off of him and he just went.
• 24:44
  Ray Comfort: There's a whole nation named after that.
• 24:45
  Ray Comfort: A whole nation I ran, I ran.
• 24:49
  Oscar Navarro: I ran so far away.
• 24:50
  Oscar Navarro: He pulled the Forrest Gump.
• 24:50
  Oscar Navarro: I ran, I ran, I ran, so far away.
• 24:51
  Oscar Navarro: So anyway, he pulled the Forrest Gump.
• 24:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I just started running.
• 24:54
  Emeal Zwayne: And running and running.
• 24:56
  Oscar Navarro: You know I was thinking back.
• 24:59
  Oscar Navarro: There's something that you say in the book fight like a can of spam.
• 25:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar was holding on to that one for a long time.
• 25:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Fight like a can of spam.
• 25:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, no man.
• 25:13
  Mark Spence: The book is destroyed.
• 25:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Let's just end this episode right now.
• 25:16
  Oscar Navarro: No, there's something you say, something which I'm going to quote in just a second, but it reminded me.
• 25:20
  Oscar Navarro: You know, I grew up in a secularized upbringing, meaning there was no Bible in my home.
• 25:29
  Oscar Navarro: We never went to church, even on like the Christmases, the Mother's Days, the Easters.
• 25:34
  Oscar Navarro: There was just none of that Like a moral and ethical framework was not taught to me, in other words, like the idea of saving yourself to marriage was a foreign concept to me all growing up, and I suffered consequences because I indulged at a very young age.
• 25:54
  Oscar Navarro: But when I became a Christian, my view of God was and this is pre-Christian really leading up to it was like he was some sort of cosmic buzzkill.
• 26:06
  Oscar Navarro: Why is he going to hold back good things from us?
• 26:09
  Oscar Navarro: And of course, that's just such a distorted view.
• 26:11
  Oscar Navarro: But the unfortunate reality is I think there's many Christians that probably have that view as well where it's like oh, I got to not look at pornography, I got to keep myself pure, and it just feels like God is holding me back from something amazing.
• 26:28
  Oscar Navarro: And I love that you point out that that's not the case.
• 26:31
  Oscar Navarro: You see, in the book, notice the Lord didn't tell Adam and Eve that they could only eat at a certain time or only a limited amount of food at a given intervals, or that they were only permitted to eat from a select I didn't quote this right a select, specific days.
• 26:49
  Oscar Navarro: He didn't crack open the door of permissiveness, he blew it off the hinges when he said, of every and freely, god didn't just give, but he gave in a lavish abundance, providing for his dust framed handiwork and overflowing supply of riches from his divinely generous heart, a heart bursting with perfect and unquenchable love for them.
• 27:14
  Oscar Navarro: I love that.
• 27:15
  Oscar Navarro: How, why is it so important for us to realize that God is inviting us into joy rather than holding us back from joy?
• 27:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's, it's huge, it's key because, you know, like I've talked about before with Shadrach, meshach and Abednego, when they, you know, chose death, chose burning over bowing, they not only understood the providence of God and the power of God, but they knew the person of God.
• 27:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Like they knew the person of God, like they said our God, whom we serve, is able to deliver us.
• 27:54
  Emeal Zwayne: They trust in this power.
• 27:55
  Emeal Zwayne: But even if he doesn't, we won't bow.
• 27:57
  Emeal Zwayne: They trust it in his providence.
• 27:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Because they said initially our God, whom we serve, they knew him, they knew his heart, they knew his character.
• 28:05
  Emeal Zwayne: And when your perception is like, oh, why does God want to keep me from this thrill and I talk about that in the book like all the arguments we come up with in our heart and mind, like, why can't I enjoy this?
• 28:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Why can't I?
• 28:14
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, but when you understand God's heart to protect us from harm, he created us.
• 28:20
  Emeal Zwayne: God designed sex.
• 28:21
  Emeal Zwayne: It's beautiful.
• 28:23
  Emeal Zwayne: It's wonderful, it's amazing.
• 28:25
  Emeal Zwayne: But you use it outside of its context, right, like we've heard about fire in a fireplace is wonderful, that's good.
• 28:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Fire in a barbecue cooking your savory food is beautiful.
• 28:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Fire running rampant outside of those contexts is destructive.
• 28:43
  Emeal Zwayne: And so, understanding God's heart, he wants to keep us from harm and destruction will help our mindset when it comes to veering away from it.
• 28:51
  Oscar Navarro: It reminds me of the CS Lewis quote which I've said multiple times and I absolutely love, which he says like we act like God's this cosmic buzzkill, but we ultimately end up and I'm gonna butcher it a little bit here, but he says something like we ultimately end up playing it with mud pies in the slums when he is offering us a holiday at the sea we are far too easily pleased by our own desires.
• 29:16
  Emeal Zwayne: And, ray, you give that analogy about the kid stealing from the father.
• 29:20
  Emeal Zwayne: What is that?
• 29:21
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, when someone says I'm having sex with my girlfriend, I say well, what you've done is you're like a little kid who snuck into his father's bedroom and opened his wallet and stole a brand new $20 bill out from your dad's wallet when in truth, he had got that for you to give to you as a gift in the morning.
• 29:37
  Ray Comfort: Wow, and so you've taken something that was good and made it bad.
• 29:40
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, god gave you the ability to have sex and the apparatus, and it's to be enjoyed within the confines of marriage, and you can have sex with your wife thousands of times and not be afraid of sexually transmitted diseases.
• 29:53
  Ray Comfort: But if you go around trying different women, like trying new shoes on, you're going to get these horrible STDs that I don't even want to talk about.
• 30:00
  Ray Comfort: They're so bad.
• 30:01
  Ray Comfort: So there's certain things that God's given us as clues about the rules that he's given.
• 30:06
  Ray Comfort: You know, when you're given a car, you're told to stand on the right side of the road and don't drink and drive.
• 30:10
  Ray Comfort: There are rules that protect you, and the rules that God has given in this word are to protect us.
• 30:15
  Mark Spence: Amen.
• 30:16
  Mark Spence: I would love if we could you know, in talking about your book Juggle a Pan of Flan, what are the practical steps.
• 30:24
  Mark Spence: Right, when somebody comes along and says all right, I want to fight like a man.
• 30:27
  Mark Spence: Right, when do I go from here?
• 30:29
  Mark Spence: I fight like a man.
• 30:30
  Mark Spence: Right, where do I go from here?
• 30:30
  Mark Spence: I've been struggling with this for years.
• 30:32
  Mark Spence: Or nobody knows about this addiction.
• 30:39
  Mark Spence: Where do I go easy?
• 30:40
  Emeal Zwayne: What do I do?
• 30:40
  Emeal Zwayne: What is the first step, perhaps in this fight?
• 30:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah well, you know I talk in the book, in my preface, how my aim in writing the book was to not only write something that was biblical and theologically sound, because you have a lot of books out there on the subject but sadly they're humanistic.
• 30:55
  Emeal Zwayne: You know it's all about, and especially now there are a lot of secular books, as the secular world is realizing whoa, pornography is destructive, duh Right.
• 31:04
  Emeal Zwayne: But it's like the world is now finally admitting it and they're seeing from scientific research like this destroys people, you know.
• 31:12
  Emeal Zwayne: So we have a lot of books out there but they're not biblically based, they're not theological.
• 31:16
  Emeal Zwayne: But along with that I wanted a book that was practical.
• 31:19
  Emeal Zwayne: So you have some books that are really theological, biblically based, but there's no practicality.
• 31:24
  Emeal Zwayne: You have books that are practical but they're not biblically based.
• 31:26
  Emeal Zwayne: So I wanted to hit that sweet spot of like hey, this is rooted in scripture, but this is also practical.
• 31:33
  Emeal Zwayne: That's why the subtitle is A Bold Biblical Battle Plan for Personal Purity.
• 31:37
  Emeal Zwayne: So you fight like a man and here's your battle plan.
• 31:39
  Emeal Zwayne: So in the book I get practical and I begin by I talk about the world, the flesh and the devil.
• 31:47
  Emeal Zwayne: There's those three parts, and then the last part is called six Cs to succeed and a nope.
• 31:53
  Emeal Zwayne: And that's a practical principle that I share.
• 31:57
  Emeal Zwayne: But you have to understand your enemy.
• 32:00
  Emeal Zwayne: You have to understand your nature and then you have to understand God's calling on your life.
• 32:06
  Emeal Zwayne: And here's what it comes down to knowing God's will and then deciding to be a doer of God's will.
• 32:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And scripture is clear on that.
• 32:14
  Emeal Zwayne: This is 1 Thessalonians 4, verse 3 and on.
• 32:18
  Emeal Zwayne: For this is the will of God your sanctification, that you should abstain from sexual immorality, that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel, and sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust like the Gentiles.
• 32:31
  Emeal Zwayne: And he goes on from there.
• 32:32
  Emeal Zwayne: So people are searching everywhere what's God's will?
• 32:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I want to know God's will for my life.
• 32:37
  Emeal Zwayne: It's his will that you be sanctified, set apart from sexual immorality.
• 32:42
  Emeal Zwayne: That's clear and beyond description.
• 32:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Know your enemy.
• 32:46
  Emeal Zwayne: What is Satan's tactic?
• 32:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Right?
• 32:48
  Emeal Zwayne: His biggest tactics are what he did with Adam and Eve.
• 32:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar just alluded to that in that chapter he cited, but it was discontent.
• 32:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, has God said you can't eat of every tree of the garden, right?
• 33:01
  Emeal Zwayne: No, god said they could eat of every except for one.
• 33:03
  Emeal Zwayne: So you have to understand discontent is one of the enemy's tactics.
• 33:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Then you have disbelief oh, you surely will not die.
• 33:11
  Emeal Zwayne: So we disbelieve what the consequences of sexual morality really are.
• 33:16
  Emeal Zwayne: And then deification no, no, you'll become like God Autonomy I get to do what I want to do, I get to make the call on what is righteous and what is not righteous.
• 33:26
  Emeal Zwayne: And then the battle plan.
• 33:27
  Emeal Zwayne: How do you fight that then?
• 33:28
  Emeal Zwayne: And so I get into that in the book and I give detail on that.
• 33:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Then the world the world is coming at us with its ways and its wisdom.
• 33:35
  Emeal Zwayne: How do we combat those?
• 33:37
  Emeal Zwayne: There's a way to do it.
• 33:38
  Emeal Zwayne: It's understanding certain truths, not marching to the beat of its foolish mantras and its foolish ways.
• 33:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Then the flesh you have your flesh coming against you.
• 33:48
  Emeal Zwayne: How do you combat that?
• 33:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, you walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
• 33:53
  Emeal Zwayne: And then I get into how to do that.
• 33:55
  Emeal Zwayne: And then I get practical with the six Cs, and maybe you guys hit me with questions on that.
• 33:58
  Emeal Zwayne: I could handle that.
• 34:00
  Ray Comfort: What are the six Cs In your book?
• 34:03
  Mark Spence: Surf on a Spiral Ham.
• 34:05
  Mark Spence: What are?
• 34:06
  Emeal Zwayne: the six Cs Surf on a Spiral Ham yeah so.
• 34:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Or the six Cs.
• 34:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Or the fire lamb yeah so.
• 34:21
  Emeal Zwayne: The six Cs are basically creation, cross, crisis, crown, crowd and Christ.
• 34:23
  Emeal Zwayne: And I open up each one of those points and then I have an alliterated sentence that goes along with it for men to memorize.
• 34:28
  Emeal Zwayne: So it's things to meditate on in those realms, and then it's a sentence to memorize that you meditate on regularly in your life so that when you're in the heat of battle, you're ready, because this is a big problem.
• 34:42
  Emeal Zwayne: A lot of men, when it comes to pornography, are like someone who's deluded into thinking that they're on a cruise liner heading toward the shores of Bora Bora, when in reality they're on a Higgins boat heading for the shores of World War II, normandy.
• 34:58
  Emeal Zwayne: And they're sauntering off the Higgins boat in a bathrobe, some fluffy slippers and a remote control in their hands and they're gonna get smoked.
• 35:07
  Emeal Zwayne: And so you have to understand this is a battle.
• 35:11
  Emeal Zwayne: You never let your guard down, you never put down your weapons, you never turn your back.
• 35:15
  Emeal Zwayne: You're always fighting because the enemy's alive and wants to destroy you.
• 35:18
  Emeal Zwayne: So I give the practicals and then I end it with something interesting Oscar no, was that a tease?
• 35:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 35:27
  Ray Comfort: I've got a thought I think you nailed it before.
• 35:29
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I've got a thought.
• 35:29
  Ray Comfort: I think you nailed it before.
• 35:31
  Ray Comfort: The world's way of handling the problem of pornography is to talk about it being destructive.
• 35:36
  Ray Comfort: But that's not going to deter any man from indulging in the pleasure.
• 35:40
  Ray Comfort: You can tell them cocaine is destructive, they still take it.
• 35:43
  Ray Comfort: Cigarettes are destructive.
• 35:44
  Ray Comfort: Alcohol's destructive.
• 35:46
  Ray Comfort: It destroys.
• 35:46
  Ray Comfort: You can see how it destroys lives.
• 35:48
  Ray Comfort: Greed is destructive.
• 35:49
  Ray Comfort: You can try to turn people to the love of money.
• 35:51
  Ray Comfort: It's bad, it'll ruin your marriage.
• 35:53
  Ray Comfort: People still give themselves to it, still indulge, because human beings are basically stupid.
• 35:57
  Ray Comfort: What we've got to tell them is it's a sin against God.
• 36:00
  Ray Comfort: Amen.
• 36:00
  Ray Comfort: And that's what Nathan said to David when he indulged You've sinned against God and that's what he cried.
• 36:07
  Ray Comfort: Created me a clean heart.
• 36:08
  Ray Comfort: And I've got to.
• 36:08
  Ray Comfort: I never forget this.
• 36:11
  Ray Comfort: The night I was converted I saw the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus said you've heard it said by them of old you shall not commit adultery.
• 36:17
  Ray Comfort: And I remember thinking, well, I'll make it to heaven if there is one, because I've never committed adultery.
• 36:21
  Ray Comfort: But then I read but I say to you, whoever looks upon a woman to lust for her has committed adultery already with her in his heart.
• 36:28
  Ray Comfort: And the emotion that I felt was one of horrors.
• 36:33
  Ray Comfort: It wasn't sorrow, it was oh no, it's God saying this thing that gives me so much pleasure.
• 36:42
  Ray Comfort: And it gave me so much pleasure.
• 36:43
  Ray Comfort: Lust gave me so much pleasure.
• 36:45
  Ray Comfort: I thought I had a special gift because I look at a woman and get instant pleasure.
• 36:50
  Ray Comfort: I didn't have to dangle my feet as sharp bait like I did with fishing.
• 36:53
  Ray Comfort: I used to travel to try and get pleasure with surfing.
• 36:56
  Ray Comfort: Every two or three days you get great surf and it gives you pleasure, but with lust it's instant, instant gratification, it's great pleasure.
• 37:05
  Ray Comfort: So what we need to do is say to the world you're sinning against God, and God will create a clean heart.
• 37:10
  Ray Comfort: And the thing that brought contrition to me as I look back was the cross, when I understood that's what God had to do so I could be forgiven the sin that broke my heart and that gave me the ability to find a place of godly sorrow which works repentance unto life.
• 37:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen, yeah, and Ray, you bring out such a great point, right In terms of those that know what they're doing is causing destruction, but they still do it.
• 37:38
  Emeal Zwayne: The greatest example of that is when you see a medical doctor who's like a chain smoker, right.
• 37:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, this guy understands physiology, understands biology, he knows what this is doing to him.
• 37:51
  Emeal Zwayne: He has treated patients with emphysema, with lung cancer, with gum cancer.
• 37:58
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, he understands.
• 38:00
  Emeal Zwayne: He's still smoking, you know.
• 38:02
  Emeal Zwayne: And so, yeah, it's more than that, and I talk about that in the books.
• 38:05
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, part of it is, yeah, you do recognize that, but it goes beyond that and it comes down, yeah, to, ultimately, the fear of the Lord.
• 38:13
  Oscar Navarro: It reminds me of, like, how do we actually train?
• 38:15
  Oscar Navarro: Where is transformation even possible?
• 38:18
  Oscar Navarro: And the interesting thing, you mentioned Psalm 51.
• 38:20
  Oscar Navarro: I love that moment when David says to God against you and you only have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight.
• 38:29
  Oscar Navarro: And this gets into your point of like.
• 38:31
  Oscar Navarro: We always talk about it as destructive, but it's more than that.
• 38:34
  Oscar Navarro: When David says that you have to think, like, wait a minute.
• 38:37
  Oscar Navarro: What about Bathsheba?
• 38:38
  Oscar Navarro: You sinned against her.
• 38:39
  Oscar Navarro: What about Uriah?
• 38:40
  Oscar Navarro: He's dead.
• 38:41
  Oscar Navarro: You sinned against him and his entire family.
• 38:43
  Oscar Navarro: You're the king.
• 38:44
  Oscar Navarro: You sinned against the nation of Israel.
• 38:54
  Oscar Navarro: You're supposed to lead them with integrity.
• 38:55
  Oscar Navarro: Without a doubt, david is not downplaying the sins that he's committed horizontally, but what he's doing is recognizing that his sin is first and foremost vertically.
• 38:59
  Oscar Navarro: And what's amazing about Psalm 51, and it starts out by proclaiming the steadfast love of God.
• 39:07
  Oscar Navarro: And that's I love Thomas Chalmers talking about, like, how we actually change, how is transformation possible?
• 39:15
  Oscar Navarro: He calls it an explosive power of a new affection.
• 39:19
  Oscar Navarro: What we need to do is look to God and see how he has loved us, and that will create in our new hearts an explosive new affection for God.
• 39:32
  Oscar Navarro: That will rid us of those old affections and lust of pornography.
• 39:37
  Oscar Navarro: And you I love that you hit this at the beginning of the book and this little part called hope for the weary In the book Bite Like Roseanne.
• 39:45
  Oscar Navarro: You say, you say no matter you get the cake.
• 39:56
  Ray Comfort: Thank you for joining us.
• 39:57
  Emeal Zwayne: friends, We'll see you here next time.
• 40:01
  Oscar Navarro: No matter how big or prolonged or shameful your sexual sins have been.
• 40:06
  Oscar Navarro: An overwhelming abundance of hope is available to you in the inexhaustible love and grace of God.
• 40:15
  Oscar Navarro: The glorious gospel, secured by the death and resurrection of Christ, not only redeems and regenerates, but also enables transformative change, as it empowers you in ways you may never have thought possible.
• 40:32
  Oscar Navarro: Easy, I'd love for you to talk to that young man right now listening to this podcast, and he's like man.
• 40:38
  Oscar Navarro: I'm living a double life, no one knows, and I've tried to kill it before and I never have.
• 40:44
  Oscar Navarro: Could you just remind him of the gospel and the power of transformation?
• 40:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, and I talk about that in my preface as well is that the other thing I wanted the book to be was extremely gospel centric, because, ultimately, our hope is found in the gospel and the fact that the gospel is not just the instrument through which we're saved, it's the treasure house and the ever-flowing fountain from which we live as God's people.
• 41:12
  Emeal Zwayne: And so you extrapolate that in that the power that raised Jesus from the dead is dwelling inside of you that God has given you through the gospel, all things, as 2 Peter 1 tells us, that pertain to life and godliness.
• 41:26
  Emeal Zwayne: And so it comes down to understanding the gospel and then valuing the gospel right.
• 41:33
  Emeal Zwayne: As I've quoted before Paul Tripp, value impacts behavior.
• 41:37
  Emeal Zwayne: So you come to that place where you meditate on the reality and the truth of the gospel, the price that was paid to redeem your soul, the greatness of God, the fact that you're going to stand before him and give account for what you did with the treasures of the gospel.
• 41:51
  Emeal Zwayne: And so you live from the gospel, you understand the power that God supplies, you understand the forgiveness and the mercy that's there, because that's another thing that often keeps men from walking in purity they stumble and then they say it's over for me.
• 42:04
  Emeal Zwayne: That's it.
• 42:04
  Emeal Zwayne: But the gospel reminds you he's paid for that sin and that he sympathizes with your weaknesses.
• 42:10
  Emeal Zwayne: That's a part of the gospel, because he became a man like you so he can come to the aid of those who are tempted.
• 42:15
  Emeal Zwayne: So what does that do?
• 42:16
  Emeal Zwayne: It makes you run to the Lord, cry out to the Lord, and then you obey him by getting accountability and by, you know, taking the steps to put to death this sin in your life by his strength, power and grace.
• 42:28
  Emeal Zwayne: So good that make sense.
• 42:30
  Mark Spence: Yeah.
• 42:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so Mark, the lure right of pornography.
• 42:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Today we're living in an era where, as opposed to when even we were kids, right, I mean you might steal a video if you could, because you couldn't buy it right If you weren't 18.
• 42:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Or you might get a magazine from a friend whose dad had it stashed at home, or whatever.
• 42:50
  Emeal Zwayne: But now at the, at the just click of a button, and it's not even you have to go to a certain place.
• 42:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Like Ray said, it's like these are now, these are appendages, basically, that we have attached like part, they're part of our body, these phones and the high clarity, quality graphics and just that, all of that.
• 43:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Now it's like men are put in a position where they have to recognize they're in the crosshairs at all moments.
• 43:22
  Mark Spence: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't word that better.
• 43:23
  Mark Spence: I was waiting for you to stop it.
• 43:25
  Mark Spence: It just kept getting better.
• 43:26
  Mark Spence: The accessibility of porn is undeniable.
• 43:30
  Mark Spence: You do not have to go searching for it, it will find you out.
• 43:34
  Mark Spence: It knows where you live.
• 43:35
  Mark Spence: It reads your mind, if you would.
• 43:38
  Mark Spence: I had somebody tell me recently that they were on Facebook and a picture or video had popped up right there on their screen which is not even allowed within Facebook.
• 43:50
  Mark Spence: It just happens.
• 43:51
  Mark Spence: It's just there.
• 43:52
  Mark Spence: It desires to sift you While you're sleeping.
• 43:55
  Mark Spence: The enemy is planning In your book how to Lead a Ninja Clan.
• 44:00
  Mark Spence: Well, it's never going to get old.
• 44:05
  Ray Comfort: No, men, keep thrashing something until it's twice dead plucked up by the roots.
• 44:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Women just say just once is fine.
• 44:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I actually want to weep for my book, like my poor book.
• 44:16
  Mark Spence: Ride a rocket van.
• 44:18
  Mark Spence: I really want actually.
• 44:22
  Mark Spence: I'd love for you, because we don't have a lot of time left.
• 44:23
  Mark Spence: I'd love for you to address that person who just says I'm just not buying into it easy.
• 44:28
  Mark Spence: I'm just not buying into it easy, I'm not buying into what you're saying, because I've tried too long to try to give this up and I just can't give it up.
• 44:36
  Mark Spence: I've tried.
• 44:37
  Mark Spence: Where does that person go right now?
• 44:40
  Mark Spence: Who's saying that listening to this?
• 44:41
  Mark Spence: And it's 40 minutes in and it's just saying guys, you have not hit me, I'm not moved.
• 44:45
  Emeal Zwayne: So I would say stop believing the lie, stop believing the lie that you can't, and let me prove to you that you can.
• 44:53
  Emeal Zwayne: If you were guaranteed $100 million, unquestionably.
• 45:02
  Emeal Zwayne: In fact, elon Musk is putting up the money $100 million.
• 45:06
  Emeal Zwayne: It's put in an escrow account.
• 45:08
  Emeal Zwayne: There's no like.
• 45:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I changed my mind.
• 45:10
  Emeal Zwayne: It is there, right.
• 45:11
  Emeal Zwayne: If you go six months without looking at pornography, you will get $100 million.
• 45:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Those of you listening right now, men that have been saying for ages oh, I can't stop.
• 45:26
  Emeal Zwayne: You know for certain, without the shadow of a doubt, you will do whatever it takes to not go search out pornography.
• 45:35
  Emeal Zwayne: You would throw your phone in the trash For that hundred million.
• 45:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you'll do whatever, you'll go lock yourself Right.
• 45:39
  Emeal Zwayne: So, wow, okay, let me take it.
• 45:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Let me take it in another direction.
• 45:43
  Emeal Zwayne: This is good.
• 45:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Every time you look at pornography, you lose a body part.
• 45:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Click, oh, there goes my ear.
• 45:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, bye-bye nose, I really loved you.
• 45:55
  Emeal Zwayne: There goes an eyeball.
• 45:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Oops, there goes my right arm, my left arm, my right leg, my.
• 46:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you kidding me?
• 46:01
  Emeal Zwayne: If you knew?
• 46:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Every time you click on pornography, you lose a body part.
• 46:05
  Emeal Zwayne: You know well, everyone's gonna know what you've been doing.
• 46:08
  Emeal Zwayne: First of all, everyone's gonna be like man.
• 46:10
  Emeal Zwayne: He's really been struggling.
• 46:11
  Emeal Zwayne: But you know you're just a head, don't laugh.
• 46:14
  Emeal Zwayne: You know you would stop looking at pornography.
• 46:18
  Emeal Zwayne: So don't say you can't, because it's calling God a liar Again.
• 46:23
  Emeal Zwayne: If you claim to be a believer because he said he's given you his spirit and the fruit of his spirit is self-control, it's not that you can't, it's that you won't.
• 46:31
  Emeal Zwayne: And until you recognize that you can, you won't.
• 46:34
  Mark Spence: So there should be a greater motivation than something physical, right, which there is, right.
• 46:39
  Mark Spence: I mean, we've been called into a relationship with God, a relationship that is pure.
• 46:44
  Mark Spence: Yeah, you know we start talking about.
• 46:46
  Mark Spence: Well, listen, you don't understand the destruction that it's gonna cause.
• 46:49
  Mark Spence: You're right.
• 46:49
  Mark Spence: And this idea of destruction has become like this nebulous, unclear idea and thought and I did it last time, nothing happened to me then or I've already done this, I've already had sex with my girlfriend.
• 47:02
  Mark Spence: I might as well do it again, because nothing happened.
• 47:04
  Mark Spence: He made me like this.
• 47:06
  Mark Spence: What role does prayer and fasting have in the midst?
• 47:10
  Emeal Zwayne: of this battle.
• 47:11
  Emeal Zwayne: They're huge.
• 47:12
  Emeal Zwayne: And I talk about that where.
• 47:13
  Emeal Zwayne: I talk about the battle against the flesh, because how do you not give into the flesh?
• 47:20
  Emeal Zwayne: You walk in the spirit.
• 47:21
  Emeal Zwayne: What does it mean to walk in the spirit?
• 47:23
  Emeal Zwayne: You involve yourself in the things that the spirit of God is involved in.
• 47:26
  Emeal Zwayne: And what are those things?
• 47:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, the Spirit is involved, obviously, in the Word.
• 47:30
  Emeal Zwayne: It's called the sword of the Spirit.
• 47:31
  Emeal Zwayne: The Spirit is involved in using our spiritual gifts.
• 47:35
  Emeal Zwayne: The Spirit gives gifts to whom he wills.
• 47:37
  Emeal Zwayne: The Spirit is involved in evangelism.
• 47:39
  Emeal Zwayne: When the Spirit comes upon you, you will be my witnesses.
• 47:42
  Emeal Zwayne: The Spirit is involved in fellowship, the fellowship of the Spirit, and the Spirit is involved in prayer.
• 47:47
  Emeal Zwayne: We do not know how to praise.
• 47:48
  Emeal Zwayne: We ought, but the Spirit intercedes for us with groanings too deep to utter.
• 47:51
  Emeal Zwayne: So yeah, prayer right.
• 47:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Crying out to God in accordance with what His will is right.
• 47:57
  Emeal Zwayne: We just learned in 1 Thessalonians 4 that it's His will that we abstain from sexual immorality and our sanctification.
• 48:03
  Emeal Zwayne: And 1 John 5 tells us that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
• 48:10
  Emeal Zwayne: And if he hears us, we have the request which we've asked.
• 48:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And so we demonstrate faith by praying in accordance with God's will and recognizing he's our source of help and hope.
• 48:20
  Emeal Zwayne: And, yeah, what do we do?
• 48:22
  Emeal Zwayne: How often we say I want to overcome these things in my life, okay.
• 48:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you praying over it?
• 48:27
  Emeal Zwayne: No, do you fast over it to break those bonds?
• 48:30
  Emeal Zwayne: No, are you memorizing scripture on that topic?
• 48:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Not really.
• 48:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you reading any books on the subject?
• 48:36
  Emeal Zwayne: No, are you getting accountability on it?
• 48:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Uh-uh, oh.
• 48:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay.
• 48:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I have cancer and I hate cancer, but I don't get my chemo treatments.
• 48:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't do my homeopathic if you go that route, whatever, there's different views on that but I don't do my chemo treatments.
• 48:50
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't do my homeopathic If you go that route, whatever, there's different views on that but I don't do anything.
• 48:53
  Emeal Zwayne: And I really want to overcome my cancer?
• 48:55
  Emeal Zwayne: No, you don't.
• 48:57
  Emeal Zwayne: It's suicide by cancer is what you're doing really, but you're just pretending like no, this is a cancer that is destroying men, it's destroying families.
• 49:03
  Emeal Zwayne: It's destroying the glory of God.
• 49:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Look, if you don't care about the destruction for yourself, how selfish do you have to be not to look at your wife and your children and your family, your parents and the glory of God?
• 49:16
  Emeal Zwayne: So we can.
• 49:18
  Emeal Zwayne: We just won't.
• 49:19
  Emeal Zwayne: But we need to.
• 49:21
  Mark Spence: We have that saying that you can't prevent a bird from flying over your head, but you can prevent them from making a nest in your head, in your hair.
• 49:27
  Mark Spence: I think that kind of ties into your NOPE principle right.
• 49:32
  Mark Spence: Maybe you can address that.
• 49:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so the NOPE principle.
• 49:35
  Emeal Zwayne: It's interesting how it came about.
• 49:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I was counseling a man who was really struggling with different issues and I said how are you doing with pornography?
• 49:43
  Emeal Zwayne: He said, yeah, I'm doing pretty good.
• 49:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I said, how are you doing with lust?
• 49:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Like, as you're going about your day, you see one?
• 49:46
  Emeal Zwayne: He said, ah, not doing too good there.
• 49:49
  Emeal Zwayne: And I go, man, you know what?
• 49:51
  Emeal Zwayne: There just comes a point where we as men have to say nope.
• 49:54
  Emeal Zwayne: And I was just having this conversation with him and it just came to my mind.
• 49:58
  Emeal Zwayne: So you just have to say nope, I'm not doing this, I'm done with this.
• 50:01
  Emeal Zwayne: And to have that attitude, and I saw that it resonated with him and it really it kind of stirred my own heart up with just that righteous zeal for purity.
• 50:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Anyhow, the next day I'm leaving home, heading toward the office, and these two young ladies jog past my car wearing barely anything, and I just instantly found myself going nope out loud.
• 50:21
  Emeal Zwayne: And I told the young man, I said we need to even say it out loud.
• 50:24
  Emeal Zwayne: And so, as I continued driving, I thought in my mind.
• 50:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I thought, man, I wish there was an acrostic that would tie in with the word nope.
• 50:31
  Emeal Zwayne: That would mean something and help men.
• 50:33
  Emeal Zwayne: And as soon as I thought that it popped into my mind Nope, n-o-p-e, not one peak, even, not one peak.
• 50:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Even I've been saying peep.
• 50:44
  Oscar Navarro: I've been peeping, it's the peep too.
• 50:45
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, you've been saying peep, so we've been peeping.
• 50:46
  Oscar Navarro: It's the peep too.
• 50:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you've been saying peep, We've been on a wrong.
• 50:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh no, it hasn't helped you guys.
• 50:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Then it does work easy.
• 50:52
  Ray Comfort: I've used it.
• 50:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and I've shared it with several men.
• 50:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I've had many men say to me this has like changed my life, because you say it out loud, which commits you, and nope has an attitude with it as opposed to no.
• 51:03
  Emeal Zwayne: If someone says, hey, can you do this for me?
• 51:05
  Emeal Zwayne: And you go, nope, it's like whoa.
• 51:06
  Ray Comfort: It's like saying to the wicked, deceitful human heart that says, oh, just look at that lady, because has she got a mustache Right?
• 51:13
  Emeal Zwayne: I talk about that in the book too.
• 51:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah so, but then why, nope?
• 51:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Why not one peak, even?
• 51:18
  Emeal Zwayne: And you know everyone's different.
• 51:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Some men are married, others aren't, whatever.
• 51:21
  Emeal Zwayne: But for me, as the book too, it's attached to something.
• 51:29
  Emeal Zwayne: So I say nope, not one peak even.
• 51:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Why?
• 51:30
  Emeal Zwayne: It's because of what I love, and what are the five things I love.
• 51:32
  Emeal Zwayne: So I imagine my hand going out to reach the handle of the plow.
• 51:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Jesus said if anyone puts his hand to the plow, looks back, he's not worthy for the kingdom.
• 51:37
  Emeal Zwayne: So I envision my hand going out to reach the plow and each finger represents one of these loves and, as I say, each one.
• 51:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm envisioning my finger curling around the handle until my hand is just tight against it.
• 51:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Nope, not one peak even.
• 51:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Why?
• 51:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Because I love my Lord, I love my lady, I love my lineage, my children, grandchildren, those that went before me, those after me.
• 52:00
  Emeal Zwayne: I love his lambs, god's people, and I love the lost, those that I'm to be a witness to.
• 52:08
  Ray Comfort: That's lovely.
• 52:10
  Emeal Zwayne: So, because I love all of those, nope, not one peak, even Not with my physical eye, not with my mind's eye.
• 52:17
  Emeal Zwayne: And as you begin to distance yourself from those things, the more you grow in holiness and purity and strength.
• 52:24
  Emeal Zwayne: To resist.
• 52:24
  Ray Comfort: I'm going to talk to our graphic artist and see if he will create a wallpaper with a Bible verse on it so you can put it on your iPhone.
• 52:31
  Ray Comfort: It's the first thing you see.
• 52:32
  Ray Comfort: If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it.
• 52:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's good Ray.
• 52:38
  Ray Comfort: And that comes directly after whoever looks upon a woman to lust us.
• 52:42
  Ray Comfort: Matthew 5, 29.
• 52:43
  Ray Comfort: That other verse is 28.
• 52:45
  Ray Comfort: And Jesus is saying if your right eye, your best eye, and you think about we've all got best eyes, we've got best hands, try throwing with your left hand.
• 52:54
  Ray Comfort: It's horrible.
• 52:55
  Ray Comfort: If you're right handed, it just doesn't work.
• 52:57
  Ray Comfort: He's saying if your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out.
• 53:01
  Ray Comfort: And then he says cast it from you.
• 53:03
  Ray Comfort: Don't put it down where you can pick up and slip it back in the slot.
• 53:06
  Ray Comfort: Cast it from you, for Don't put it down where you can pick up and slip it back in the slot.
• 53:09
  Ray Comfort: Cast it from you, for it's better to enter heaven without an eye than go to hell with both your eyes.
• 53:11
  Ray Comfort: And then he brings out where the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched.
• 53:14
  Ray Comfort: That should put the fear of God.
• 53:16
  Ray Comfort: So if we get a wallpaper created, we make free of charge along with your book.
• 53:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 53:22
  Ray Comfort: It might be good to have on your phone, because you've got to go through that gate to get to your phone.
• 53:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen Ray, that's a really good idea.
• 53:27
  Emeal Zwayne: And let me just say, men, those of you listening, this book is full of hope.
• 53:31
  Ray Comfort: What's it called?
• 53:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Fight Like a man, a bold, biblical battle plan for personal impurity, but it's full of hope.
• 53:36
  Emeal Zwayne: The real impetus behind it is look, no matter how far you've gone, no matter how much you've blown it, there is hope in the Lord.
• 53:44
  Emeal Zwayne: It's not a book that beats you down Again, it's gospel-centric, so it's given you the gospel and I want to urge you to get it.
• 53:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Look, let me be candid.
• 53:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I get zero money from this as you purchase it through Living Water.
• 53:57
  Emeal Zwayne: So I'm not pushing this so I can make money.
• 53:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I want you to be impacted by this book and to give it to other men so that God will use it to change lives.
• 54:07
  Emeal Zwayne: I've been humbled by the response.
• 54:09
  Emeal Zwayne: It's got Dr John MacArthur's endorsement.
• 54:11
  Emeal Zwayne: He said every man needs to help this excellent book offers.
• 54:14
  Emeal Zwayne: The foreword was written by Ken Ham from Answers in Genesis, the ARC Encounter and Creation Museum.
• 54:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Kirk Cameron endorsed it, ray Comfort endorsed it and others, pastor Jack Hibbs, mike Fabares, tony Wood, todd Friel, owen Strand, john the Baptist, phil Johnson, justin Peters, my pastor, phil DeCoursey.
• 54:35
  Emeal Zwayne: So please check it out and, whether you do or not, men repent, get right with the Lord.
• 54:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Let Him transform you.
• 54:42
  Emeal Zwayne: We've gone over.
• 54:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, ray.
• 54:43
  Ray Comfort: And not only can you get it from livingwaterscom, but you can go to amazoncom, and if you go there to get it, leave a comment.
• 54:49
  Ray Comfort: It really helps.
• 54:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Comments are really important, yeah, so go and leave comments, because that helps propel the book.
• 54:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I've been amazed by its ranking.
• 54:56
  Emeal Zwayne: It was number one in sexual health recovery and, like in the top, in fact, of all books that were on Amazon.
• 55:03
  Emeal Zwayne: It was number 1,800 out of 32.8 million titles and it was in the top 50, top 100, actually top 30 in a number of different categories.
• 55:17
  Emeal Zwayne: So I'm blown away by its success so far.
• 55:18
  Emeal Zwayne: So check it out, friends, and that's about it.
• 55:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us.
• 55:24
  Emeal Zwayne: We'll see you here next time on the Living Waters Podcast, where we have no idea, except for today, except for today, what we're doing.