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Pre-investigation packet - Poasttown Elementary School (audio only) · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, welcome to Trap Souls.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: I am Ryan.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm here with Baja.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: What's up?
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: What's up?
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I just call you Baja.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's fine.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: Baja.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's with Lake Area Shadow Hunters.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, his boy started this group a couple years ago.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my kid started.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably about a year and a half ago.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: A year and a half ago.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: Found him on TikTok and he was telling me about it.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: Does a good job.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: Check him out on TikTok, Lake Area Shadow Hunters.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: So we're here talking about Post Town Elementary School.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I invited Baja and his kid to come down to Post Town.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then I invited him to go to Madison the night before.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: So they're gonna do double back.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be good time.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be good times.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be interesting.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: So what first your kid, what got your kid into it?
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: So my kid actually, yeah, he's he was all into it first.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's the only one that was actually thinking about the stuff.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: He will always show me stuff.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: I never really pay attention too much to it, you know.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: But it was funny because at one point I got talking to you, and then you were telling me that you know you guys do all this stuff.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh well, that's pretty cool.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I went home and talked to my kid, I'm like, hey, this guy at work does the whole paranormal team investigations and everything, and he's got a podcast, and he's got all kinds of creepy, creepy stuff in there you can listen to, and you know, after that we got into it, and then he just like that's when you know I got the uh the contesting or something to the podcast that I you know to go with you guys.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, well, let me go with them first, and I'll check it out and see how it is, because there's a whole back thing to it, why I'm like sketchish about this whole thing sometimes.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: But like I went with you guys, obviously it wasn't that bad.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't no, it's not bad.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: As long as you're with the group that knows what they're doing, yeah.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: Not crazy.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, by going with you guys, it was it was a little easier to do it again, and then obviously take him eventually, which we did.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you get to the flashlight tours.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we started we started with the flashlight tour, which I'd recommend.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Anybody that wants to get into this, hit the flashlight tours at Madison.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: I've never done it personally, but I always hear great things about it.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if there's only one or two of you, that's the best way to do it.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: And they had a lot of cool equipment there.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I I was worrying a little bit about it that we weren't gonna get too much on it because obviously when we went with you guys, you we talked about how this if there's too many people, it might affect a little bit of the we were surprised that just me and him, we were in certain rooms, we got a lot of activity.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was nuts, it was the stuff we got off of it.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: Do you guys got anything in Sarah's room?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, we did not get nothing in Sarah's room.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: It was so hyped up.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: It might have been maybe a cat ball went off or something like that, but um most of the activity we got was down in the jail cell by the you know.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: Which is odd because I never got anything in jail cell.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: I always get stuff in the attic, so but we're going there less than a couple weeks, right?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think three weeks or so.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to work with your son and you and do some just us three to go do some investigations on our own in Madison.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Post town's gonna be a little different.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: I've never been there.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: Craig's going in solo for the first half hour before we're not even doing a walk.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: We're not even doing a walkthrough.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's just going in with the camera.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: So does he got a certain room he's gonna go to that he already knows, or is he just picking a certain like any room random?
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: He's just gonna walk through the place and check it out and videotape himself and see how it goes.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: So that's gonna be then we'll go in.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um I actually know a little bit, because I always say I don't do research, but I want to do these pre-packets for the people that are gonna watch us and everything.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I do know a little bit about it.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um post-town is is it's interesting.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um once we read that packet, you'll see why.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: But okay, so you said there's a backstory why you're a little nervous.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: You gonna share that backstory?
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, yeah, that so I my my whole like I in a family of five.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: I got two brothers, two sisters, like I'm the last one, I'm the little one.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: So since I was a baby, we grew up in a uh my parents were pastors.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: We grew up in a Pentecostal home.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: Everything that we have everything that I have have been taught about that life, that all the side like that, it's bad.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: All bad.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: There's no there's no in-between, it's just as simple as anything that that can hunt you or touch you or something from the other world, as they call it, it's evil.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's a demon.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's no uh there's no it's whatever, it's just a demon.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I've been taught that all my life, so having to go, you know, having to go look for something like that that I'm not supposed to be looking at, I'm looking for.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like facing your fears.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's like but they they they everything like I you I couldn't even watch bad movies when I was a kid.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: My parents were literally telling me it will come through the TV, you cannot watch anything like that.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and of course, I have seen stuff myself where um I was maybe eight, nine years old, the earliest positive like age that I can remember being in church, and I remember my mom telling me, Look, listen, when we do stuff like this, and basically they're praying for somebody that just you know that needs it really bad, you close your eyes and you pray, and do not open your eyes for whatever you hear.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: And stuff like that traumatized traumatized me as a kid.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because then at the same time, if you have watched videos on YouTube that you look up like somebody demon possessed or something like that, I remember me as a kid being in church, and I could I could literally, of course, I'm a kid, I'm gonna open my eyes.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I seen like it's just a small woman just pushing this dude that are over like a hundred and two hundred pounds over, like it was nothing, and then like a very deep voice screaming, uh like you know, like a demon, and then you find the videos like downline is like crap.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like I saw it as a kid, and then I see it also later on in life, and you know, videos.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Was that how real was it?
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's like all demons, like yeah.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's a lot of people out there, especially religious, right?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: There's only angels and demons.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: Angels don't come to earth, it's only demons.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's it, and that's what they believe in.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, they're I'm not gonna judge anybody's beliefs because everybody has their own beliefs and I respect everybody's beliefs.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's a lot of people that don't like us doing this type of stuff because you do see a lot of groups out there that are more aggressive.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta respect the spirits.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what my group is about respecting spirits, trying to find some answers.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: And they're like, well, if you respect them, then you shouldn't be doing this at all.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like I mean, I'm not here to try to find answers to another world.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: It'd be great if I do, but it's a hobby.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's what this is.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I enjoy it.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: You and your son enjoy it.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you got your eyes open a little bit.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because Yeah, as far as we know, I mean like a wood.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing bad has happened, you know.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, demonic-wise, I really think you can't.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's probably less than one percent out there.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but then they say, well, they're just kids, they're demons portraying themselves.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, whatever.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: We can go on and on about that kind of thing.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: But it's no one will ever know.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_01: If that's what you believe in.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you believe in.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: Tell you right now, it's like my family ever saw that or saw me that I'm doing this, they will probably cut me off even more than I already am right now.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I just I'm that guy in the family that is like, eh, okay.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: My wife has wants nothing to do with this.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's the same with my wife.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she seems fine with it sometimes.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why you do this.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, being religious, she's like, I don't know why you should do this.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, there are religious groups out there that do this.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean Yeah.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's all on your belief.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: But just like anything else, there's always a line on the line, you know, line you won't cross.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like Ouija boards, I would never do them.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like I honestly someone just posted on Facebook, what do you think about Ouija boards?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's hard.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've seen stuff through Ouija boards that have happened when I was younger.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's the main reason I didn't touch them for a long time.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_00: But then I think there's too much human influence when you have a Ouija board of people touching it as a mantel or whatever gaming company made Ouija boards.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's insane, yeah.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: I think Five of O is making Ouija boards now.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: So how true are they?
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: It'd be cool to have one back from like the 18-1900s.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: Would I buy it?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Would I touch it?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Probably not.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: But it'd be cool to have.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Just a history of it.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about post out.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: First, we're going to Madison.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: So we're going to hit the basement a little bit.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously the attic.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to hit that a lot.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, anything you want to like hit hard at Madison or just go have a good time?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, I like, I mean, we like to go check out different rooms all the time.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: We like to try them all.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Even the rooms that like, you know, like you say, everybody goes to Sailor's room.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody's all like obsessed with the room.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: I always tell my kid, like, let's just try different rooms.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: You never know.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like every room has a history in it.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like it just thinks that things could happen in that room and nobody just talks about it.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody's just focused on this one because that's what you see.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody that's what you usually post in that room.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it's like it's got all kinds of decorations, whatever, you know, stuff that attracts people more.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like well, that's why Adam talked about this.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: One video a couple years ago was is it really Sarah in that room?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because no one's driving really got evidence.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, no.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Or is it the lady?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: He thinks it's the lady across the hall.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because everybody's in Sarah's room talking.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then finally, after a while, they do get some activity.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: He thinks it's the lady across the hall that comes over and is like, I'm here too.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell you that.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: If I if I was a ghost and somebody'd be like constantly there, I'm like, well, I guess I'm just gonna go fuck with them right now.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll Sarah.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: So last time we were there, I tried that.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: I had Reed, his brother, and I think my niece Sammy were in Sarah's room, and I came down from doing a solo in the attic, and I went to the room across the hall, and I wanted to do Spirit Box while they were over in Sayra's room.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: I got nothing.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if there's anything on it.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty much I heard Reed complain that he didn't know how to work the video camera the whole time.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think I remember that one.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: So it was kind of annoying to go over that evidence.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll try it again.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll do an SS method in that room with people asking questions.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's right across the hall.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll go to here.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um I always like mixing stuff up.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: So Yeah, there's gotta be some there's gotta be something.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, there's something there between back and forth, whatever it was.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: But because there's stuff like we've had REM pods and cat balls go off in a hallway in between, so something's crossing over.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it is.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna find out.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, we find out.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I like setting up the cat balls in the hallway too.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: By the door or anything like that, because if anything, obviously I don't know how the system works on the other side of the you know, in this a life, but whether they use doors or the walls, I don't know.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: But it's kind of if they do come to the door, you know that cat ball just went off.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, hey, something might be coming in.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like and people are saying, well, people walk through walls because there used to be a door there.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Madison's the same, it has been for since it's been built, so it's gonna go through the door.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but again, like catball-wise, like I've gotten some stuff off cat balls until I went to Bill Manor.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was cat ball crazy there, yeah, and REM pod crazy.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, if not, check out my video.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's called a brother's tale on YouTube.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's about 47 minutes long, a little long.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's my first attempt at show type evidence at Bill Manor.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: So check that out if you get a chance.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Madison, so big trip.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: You're going part of the big trip, two out of the six locations now.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna tell everybody out there.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: I thought this was a great idea doing this until about a week ago.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Until about a week.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, until after I did Bill Manor, because we had so much go on at Bill Manor.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: And my brother was like, I don't want to say emotionally drained, but was kind of drained a little bit because there's a lot going on there thinking about my team, like Madison.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think we're gonna get emotionally drained.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, post town.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not really too nervous about post-town, but then we're gonna old college on hospital.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Old hospital on college hill.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mess it every time.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Old hospital on College Hill.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's supposed to be pretty freaky.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: And if my group gets emotionally drained there, the next night we're going to Bel Air House.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was like rough after rough, like on that one.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a little worried about them.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: And a little worried about me, cuz I made a promise that I'm gonna do solo in the basement there.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: Then I think I'm gonna blindfold Reed in the basement solo to do an EVP session.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna do it?
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't know about this yet.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Is he gonna do it?
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because last time about what was it?
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Bailware might have been the Bailey house you guys were at.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he was upstairs in the bathroom, and that was the funniest free.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's Ross' house.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it was a noise, and he's like, What's you guys?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: What was that you guys?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's Ross' house.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's Ross house.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_01: Freaking out a little bit.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's like so let's backtrack a little bit.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: Where have you guys investigated besides Madison?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we have um we only maybe two places, main places.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: We obviously Madison, and then we went to Fairfield.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: And that was that wasn't bad.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's a cool place.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: I like we liked it.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't get too much activity.
• 13:54
  unknown: Yeah.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, the people that were there, we did we that was also the flashlight tour there.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: By the way, it wasn't like a single night where just we rented the place to ourselves.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, there was like other groups there, and then it was female groups that were getting more attention than us, obviously.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: I told you that.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was like I told him after that, and he was he didn't tell me about that, but I'm like, yeah, the females got a lot.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, that's odd, because same thing with us.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, they get they they were getting there was a next we were in different rooms, obviously, and there was a group of females in the other room, and they were just like non-stop getting conversations with whatever it was.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't uh it wasn't a uh I guess a decent ghost.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: It was like this guy was like just saying nasty, crappy stuff to them, and and then when they they didn't want to do something, he would cuss them out.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like oh yeah, it was uh but for us it was we didn't get too much experience.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: We went to a couple places on there in the basement, obviously too.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: We went to the morgue and nothing at all.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: My daughter did Estus laying on the morgue table.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, I mean at this point, obviously, it's not, you know, but just to think about it, yeah.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's like your second third investigation.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, hey, why don't you go lay on that table and do Estes?
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was creepy to think about the stuff they did down there, like between like the food that they were messing with food in there in the same room and everything else.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I we didn't I didn't get much.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: There really wasn't any evidence that I got.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I know it's a great place to investigate.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just having a hard time.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like I w I want to go back, but I think there's other places like oh we'll do Fairfield.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, let's go to Bill Manor, or let's go to Shanley Hotel, you know, instead.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm like Fairfield, uh but I'll get back there sooner or later.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna pay part of the big trip, then Old Hospital came up, and I'm like, no, we gotta do old hospital instead of Fairfield.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: So it it might be different.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know if maybe I know you got your own thing, right?
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: You got your you had your own private night.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if maybe for us it would be different at that point if we did have our own thing, like and no no flashlight tour group.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like I think I have Aaron has mentioned before on the podcast before about flashlight tours, not doesn't usually work for her, or if you don't know they actually they actually got a lot of stuff.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: They and just like most groups, like they did Madison right down the road, and they did a flashlight tour.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I've never done a flashlight tour.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: I just you know, before Adam bought it, the people used to run it out just per person.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: It was like 40 bucks a person.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you get four people and just have the whole place to yourself.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's what we did like 15 years ago.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Then you know, he does it by group now, and it's just cheaper to do a flashlight tour.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's only it's usually like 20 bucks.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they went and they had a good time, but they got some stuff, especially she she loves the drug tank.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like Aaron, Aaron is a fan of the drug tank.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not it's not a bad spot, it really is.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: It hasn't been in the last two.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the last two times we've been there, that's that's for us has been the hot spot.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'd and we try to sta we try to face stay away from like anything that has to do with Wi-Fi or any kind of internet, you know, so you don't mess with the equipment too much and everything else.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: There's some fire system stuff there that messes with it.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: So we we try to move the equipment, uh see how far you know if it messes with it and everything else.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, the flashlight towards all, I mean I don't know, I don't know if it'll make a difference or not.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe the night it's just we're we're two dudes, so I I I the guys and they're probably don't give a damn about us, you know.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like or they can be threatened.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe if we're by ourselves, they're like, hey, we got nobody else to mess with, let's mess with those two dudes.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's there is just like us.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like sometimes we want to talk, sometimes we don't.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: I do want to take my wife to Madison eventually.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: I can't get my wife to watch Project Fear with me.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Just a little flashlight too.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing gonna happen.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: She won't.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go up to the doctor's office real quick.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: She will not go.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: I actually thought about I'll probably have to cut this out, but I actually about just running a like haunted hotel room.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: And not tell her.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Not tell her anybody.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: There is a couple.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, I've seen a couple like people that what is it?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Franklin Castle is a bad breakfast.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: You can rent her room for the night.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's uh the whole place is haunted.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: See, there's some hotels that are usually just one room.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's like no Franklin Castle's uh because the whole thing.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hey, she she'd probably know the minute she you know rumps up to the building, she would know.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like you can some buildings you can tell right off the bat without having to even walk in there.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like I wouldn't be sleeping on a couch by myself, just sleeping in a Franklin castle by myself, which is fine.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: I love solo.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: So wakes up at three o'clock in the morning, something pulling on her leg, like what the hell is that?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, you guys, I mean he does your son does a lot of stuff in his room.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, he he take my.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: He gets stuff.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he got some he got pretty brave because he he don't wait for me.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: He does a lot of stuff and I was home like it's because I'm worried.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I worry about that.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not there to watch him, and you know, but he does a lot of stuff in his room, and it's uh he's gotten a lot of activity in his room, and obviously our home from the private history from the the gentleman that used to live there.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know if that's him or just something that follows from anywhere else, but yeah, get there sometime and investigate with you guys, too.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just it's weird though.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: It don't it whatever it is, it doesn't care for me.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: And the way now care as in like doesn't it hate me or something, it just doesn't like care to talk to me.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: Communicate, yeah.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just my kid, you know.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because your kid talks to him, he's probably comfortable with them.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: So but we'll go there.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm out.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: I I I was kind of a dick one time.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, just provoke it.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: I ad no we shouldn't provoke things, but I did him like so.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what the fuck?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: You was what do you want to talk to me?
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: You're a pedophile?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: You only want to talk to my kid.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's just like some means of these fucked up shit.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, and the next thing you know, it's like the just the the pot the REM pot just going off like it was that's the first time it went off with me in it, you know.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can't be making angry in your own house.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: What do you gotta put together?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what did I do to you?
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you don't want to talk to me.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna show you what he can do to you.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: You can talk like that.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: I had to get him going and pissed him off at some point, you know.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's like yeah, I mean, my daughter my wife always thought the attic would have something in there, and that's where my daughter's bedroom is now.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: She says she always believes something was up there, so I'm a little nervous to do something up there just because I don't want to hear stuff.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like if I catch stuff, then do I tell her or do I not tell her?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she seems fine with it.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was gonna say most of the time you don't tell them.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I mean it's so we have a light switch at the bottom of the steps and in her room, and she has a whole attic.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's finished, and she yelled down at me one time, and I think I was playing Xbox or something.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Why'd you turn my light on?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was like one in the morning.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I did it, you know.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: I yelled up, I didn't.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Then she just goes, Well, turn it off.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Thank you.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm still sitting on the couch.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, cool.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: You sure she wasn't a mimic at that time?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like it could have been you, you could have been the one actually talking to the same thing over there.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, like you never know.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but it was funny.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: So she had this doll growing up.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: I hate dolls.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: That freaking doll.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: This was the time where Alexa used to people are coming over to Alexa and saying stuff.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like every now and then you hear Alexa go like, like laugh.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: And people are getting freaked out.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we had Alexa.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was on the table behind the couch, like to the left, and the doll.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: My kids used to play behind the couch, that was like their little play area.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't know the doll was back there, and I heard it go off.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm playing Xbox like two or three in the morning.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what the hell?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, then it goes off again.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm just unplugging this thing.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: If I go over, the luxe is plugged, unplugged as I'm hooked up.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: And look over and there's freaking doll sitting there.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's above the garage right now.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't be in the house at all, actually.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think it is.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: I can find it.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I actually don't want to find it taking on a big trip.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's one is always with the dolls.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever it is, they're always trying to take possession of something to manifest its itself through it, whatever.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: But it's always dolls.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking about taking it on a big trip, an RV.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Enhance the uh people think I should put in the back of Sarah's truck when she gets down there.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So you're trying to get a freaking crash vehicle.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: She looks at her over here, those dolls turning up.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna freak the hell up.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like she'd probably jump out while it's moving.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, funny thing you talk about that the uh my sisters had dolls, like you know, like that, whatever.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Again, the whole Pentecostal, they're very strict religion.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: At some point they were saying that the dolls were manifesting themselves at home in our house in Puerto Rico.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: So they end up burning them.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: And and supposedly to this day, my parents tell me that they were actually like trying to move out, like move in the fire when they were burning them.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was weird.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Try to crawl.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I don't know, like they were moving or like like yelling or screaming.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: But uh obviously I was a kid, but they tell me other stuff.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Again, they're just like they always freak me out with all the stuff they you know mention all their life at me, and it's like Did you grow up in Puerto Rico?
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so yeah.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we grew up there.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like 15 years, I didn't even know that.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: I was yeah, I grew up in Puerto Rico until about 10, 10 years old, and then you know, after that we moved to Jersey, and then we were in Ohio.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: Ohio ever since 20 years.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Puerto Rico, I mean, I never really looked into it, but there is like I don't want to say like black magic or like what?
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: No, there obviously there is, you know, just like anywhere else, there's always somebody practicing witchcraft.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, witchcraft stuff like that.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: But they used to um just like anywhere in the US, it's the same anywhere.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like they tell you to find stuff, like if you find some like we will we live we live up on in the mountains, and a lot of times we like obviously the whole neighborhood kids, everywhere we knew each other, we will run through the mountains, you know, playing whatever, and then a lot of times you find like you you go by certain areas and you find some creepy like altar.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like obviously somebody doing some kind of witchcraft stuff, and like you know, and they would tell you like don't touch it, don't even you know stay away from it, because you can you can whatever something happened, possess or something follows you or it would be cool to go like Puerto Rico or somewhere and do some best.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they probably got some old creepy stuff that just like never been touched before, and you just I think we gotta look into that.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna come back.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: I wanna be bad and go a little ghost uh trip and then uh beach at the same time.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: I don't do beaches, I'm a ginger.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: You'll be alright, it's a bunch of shit.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: I burn with a hundred SPF on so that's it's it's a sun, but all right.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: So we're getting a post on um read this uh packet I made.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: Read it up, alright.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um if you have any like injunction in between, just say whatever.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, we'll read up uh Post Town Elementary School.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: The city of West Branch was founded by Peter Post in 1818.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: West Branch was renamed in 1848 to Post Town, named after his first postmaster.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: In 1851, a railway was built just north of the village, making Post Town and Shipping Point.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: There were many disasters in the area before Post Town Elementary School was built in 1937.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Two train wrecks occurred between 1891 and 1910.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus, that's what kind of two train wrecks.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: The first train disasters happened in July 25, 1891.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: Employees of the National Cash Registry were on their way back up from Dayton from their company picnic when their passenger train crashed into a freight train killing four people and injuring 50.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: On July 4th, 1910, a Big Ford passenger train ran off the schedule due to a detour.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: That caused confusion when a large freight train on the same track saw the four passengers train, but it was too late.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: All passengers in the first two passenger train closest to the engine either died or was seriously injured.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: There were 19 deaths at the scene, with so many being injured and no hospital nearby.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: They set up a makeshift triage at the site where the school was set 27 years later.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: After all said and done, the train wreck took 36 lives.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I wonder if they all died at the post town school.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean they took them there, but they died at the wreck, then the other ones.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: The other ones died there, yeah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: Damn.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: In 1913, just outside Middletown, Middletown, the flood of 1913 happened claiming six lives.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Many believe, since there were so many homes and businesses ruined, that a lot of the residual energy is still in the area.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: This disaster is why many believe in the elementary school is haunted.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: Not because of the school itself.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: There's only been one story of a death in the school itself from the disasters that happened on that land before the school was built.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: The elementary school was open from 1937 to 1999.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, surprising it's still that long.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: During that time there was not many, uh there was not any paranormal activity reported, but after interviewing students, they said they had an audience feelings and heard unexplainable noises through the building.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Besides the building being old as hell, too.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure they did though, but it's like the one document death that may or may not have occurred in the school is a girl named Sarah.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: What is it with the girl named Sarah?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: We'll talk about that after.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: What is it with the name Sarah?
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: One story states that she was playing with friends by this by the top stairwell when she fell to the bottom floor.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Some say she died at the school.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: Some stories say she died on the way to the hospital, and even states that she died at home a couple days later.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: There are no documentation of this happening, even her name is mystery.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Some say it's Cheryl Ann.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Sarah or Cheryl Ann will always be a mystery.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: But many believe she's roaming the halls and giggling, still playing with her friends.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: She's also known to touch visitors, especially near the top stairwell, where she fell to her death.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: There have also been reports of a child-sized shadow roaming the hall.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: Many believe this to be Sarah also.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Shadow.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: We'll be hunting that shadow.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Or it would hunt us, wouldn't he?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Sarah.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what's with the name Sarah.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: You watch a lot of shows, it's always Sarah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I'm nice to our Sarah.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a demon name Sarah?
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe that's uh we don't know about like I don't know.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because it seems like that name is played out everywhere.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: It seems like, yeah, it's it's always Sarah.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, there's not really much that happened in a school itself.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: But the train wrecks are documented and they set a triage on the property.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people think that's where the hauntings come from.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Is that so?
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean we'll have to find out.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: But like the flood happened and that was a little farther away, I think north of there.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Is it possible that and I'm a big believer in this since doing Ross House?
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: Just because it doesn't happen on the site, if you're people are going there asking questions, the spirits might come and say, Hey, I'm here too.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: I want to tell my story.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: So something we have to figure out.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, um, like you said, it doesn't have to happen there.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: But because you're at that location and you're asking questions, is it like a like a like a light in their world where they can see, you know what I'm saying?
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like getting attention from people asking questions because nowhere else is doing it.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then they they somehow, whatever how it works over there, I mean they can see it, they can hear it, they can it's kind of like I guess word of mouth, you know.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you if I tell you, hey, this place of matter has the best burger ever made.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean like if you go here, you might get your you know, yeah, your word album.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: Your word out.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it's probably a lot of people.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think anything's dark there.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've never heard of anything dark being there.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people that have gone there have a really great time.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess the owners are great.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: We'll meet them, hopefully.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've seen a couple videos from people posted in there, and it seems like they were getting some pretty good uh, you know, activity and stuff like that, but it was nothing like crazy, you know.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: So even like through the pre-packet, like there's really not one place for Craig to go solo.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: There's not like one place for us to like hunker down and try to figure out.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's just gonna be going through the building, like I did with my brother and Bill Manor.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: We just walk through, you get a feeling, make a mental note of it, we'll come back to that.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: We'll probably split up in a couple groups and do that.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: Just walk second, third floor, and if you get a feeling, like something's in here, okay.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we can investigate then, we get all night, or we just come back, finish the tour ourselves, and come back.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: So and when you guys get you said you get the feeling.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: I know you heard you guys say it before and everything else.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like the only feeling I ever got, like like Madison up in the attic, you go to that obviously the hall, you get a creepy feeling.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I need.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so there's like because like you you get that uneasy feeling, like uneasy feeling.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're in the hallway, like sometimes you know the hair and back your neck stands up, or like it could even be like I don't even want to walk into this doorway.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like the two rooms in the back of Madison, I get it all the time.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I don't even want to walk in this, like I don't even walk want to walk in this room.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: But you just do it anyway.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: You just gotta feel like we were feeling okay.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't know why everybody's like when they talk about they get that feeling.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's like okay.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: I I know I get the feeling it's like creeping uneasy feeling like it doesn't feel comfortable in here.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's all I want.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I want.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you know, so that's a good place to maybe ask some questions.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that actually, yeah.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Good where you feel yeah, exactly.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, what my my first tour guy at Trans Algate told me that just walk the hall.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, you might not even get a feeling trying to walk into a room, you might just be walking by a room and be like, something's wrong with that room.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, go investigate it.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's why you're there.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many people like, yeah, you don't win in there.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's why you paid all that money.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you kind of get trying to get something.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: Go in there.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it could be somewhat nice.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: You can't always pick the the room with the light.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: Don't go toward the light.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, you gotta go uh pick the creepiest in the room that looks the dirtiest, you know, it's like um, but I don't know, but post down uh do they actually have a like do they say anywhere where the triage was set up at?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: What like what floor?
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: The building wasn't even there.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: It was before the school was built.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay, okay.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was on the property.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: So it was land itself.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that could be pretty much So I mean, blood spilling on land.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: They could roam all over all over the place.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, we're gonna find out.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I think it won't be bad.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'd think usually might say it's not gonna be bad.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: You said your daughter was going too or no?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't think so.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I get uh we got our boy.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you but we got a young one, so they might get, you know, we might get maybe some activity.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you never know.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, she's only what a hundred years old.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's like uh oh, I don't know about that boy.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean, but uh no, I mean it's good.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, your boy will be there.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously we have multiple different types of people there, so I figured we're like, you know, uh it's weird.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of times, like like the whole um we uh like we've got this weird picture we took at Madison and the same thing, you know, we went to the top floor, obviously the attic where the mothers were at with the kids and stuff like that.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I and we got one picture that it looks like he was getting his hair basically caressed, like and we talked about this before.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's like yeah, maybe it was one of the moms that was you know yeah, like you being a kid itself, it's like you're getting you're gonna get the attention from yeah, I think about Madison as a psychiatric up there.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: So when people did have kids up there, the nurses, you know, them being a psych patient took care of their kids too.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: So they're a motherly figure to those kids.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: So that's like by him being going to post down, maybe that'll like kind of like the boundary, like break the boundary before Sarah being a it was a young girl, yeah, might actually want to be comfortable around him.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: And just being in elementary school.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: So no, it'll be interesting, it'll be fun.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean yeah, I mean, I don't think my daughter, she might do medicine with us.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's about it.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um she has a week long before she'll be out of town.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: So just can't have her go on this too.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: She has other commitments she has to stick to, so which is fine.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: We're just having a good time.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's always gonna be plenty they're never going, they're not going anywhere, those places can't go with you can't go with them all the time, you know.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: And there's like Bel Air, you know, they don't have a restriction on age.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, most places like 13-year-old or 15-year-old must be with a parent or adult, whatever.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: There's one place, I don't know if it's Bill Manor.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's Bill Manor, but there's one place that's 18 and above, and that's it.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: They don't want to take any chance of having on it, yeah.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: They they know, I'm sure they know and honestly I'm very protective of my daughter.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um people argue that because I do take her on some of this stuff, but she's stronger than all of us mentally and physically, probably.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: And uh but I won't take anybody to Bel Air.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say from the stuff that you know you guys have posted before, and she's always being like a target kind of.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like she she deals with it pretty good, you know.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: So all people would have freaked out of it.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, everything that's happened to her, 90% of people were freaked out.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, eh.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: They would have been done.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: Some people would have been done, like, nah, I'm done.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Some people in my group would have been done.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: So um, Sammy my knees got her hair lifted in Madison.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: She won't go back there.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: See, we don't have any hair to be lifted so well.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: So we we try we try different things, like but Reed actually saw her hair go up.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: Did it and drop.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: That would have been crazy to catch it on video though.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't catch it on video, but I mean, but she I talked to her a couple weeks ago.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think she'll go back there with me.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: She will not walk back there by herself.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean I know a lot of people that won't walk back there by themselves, so that's fine.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: Push you gotta push your limit sometimes.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: You do, but she had a very traumatic experience back there.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: So it's her first time back since then.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm not gonna push anybody.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm gonna push people to do stuff if I think they can do it.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Craig by himself in the basement.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: Read, Craig.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've been trying to push Aaron to do a solo because I know she can do it.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: She just needs just to do it.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, just go do it.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna push someone like Sarah.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always trying to solo, solo, solo.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because Sarah is a very good investigator.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: When you take her out of the car, you know what I'm saying?
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like when she is just with a couple people, she asks the right questions, she knows what she's doing, and she's a very great investigator, so I'm trying to push her to go a little farther.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: But there's to a point where I'm talking to Sarah that if I make her do it, she'll have a mental breakdown.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm never gonna push anybody.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm never gonna push anybody.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not taking Sarah, say, hey, what's down in the basement?
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, Spartan kicking her down the basement steps and locking the door, you know.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do that.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: I told you to go on the basement now.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: But like I don't think Bel Air right now, I will send anybody else down there.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: Reed says he never is not scared of anything, so I think him not being a believer will help maybe get some evidence down there.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: I just like doing solos.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's my thing.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Read that video from Bel Air tells me something different.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: If you weren't a believer.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's never been there.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: It was Ross House.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Ross House, Ross House, yeah.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's the one.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: So he's gonna do about 40 minutes in Bel Air before anybody else goes in.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: But walking around, you're not gonna get you're gonna get that feeling, but you're not gonna you're not gonna be sitting down and concentrating.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll see what happens with that.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: But big trip coming up, it's gonna be fun.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um besides these two, do you guys what do you guys plan on hitting this year?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing as right now.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: We we have been wanting to start making a list.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: So eventually we do start getting if we start getting some time off off of work, where we don't have to worry about like this weekend.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was, you know, we were I was gonna go with my family, like down to West Virginia, visit her my wife's family.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, got to work tomorrow.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it's yeah.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: That we when we stop worrying about stuff like that, then we can start actually worrying about spending money because it costs money, obviously.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and like we don't have to vacate all the vacation in the world to take certain places every single time.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: But we do want to we want to start building a list together so we can start going to places all over the place.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: The wife was actually she's not into it, but she was gonna go down down there right now, and she was gonna start finding locations in the area where they're at.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're in Hartking, West Virginia.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's stuff in West Virginia.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that she was gonna uh talk to her family and started looking around, so maybe like next time I'll be able to go in there, me and him can go.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, I'll I'll stay at the hotel and you guys we want to try like getting more into it, like more deep into it.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it's darker's not the word.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's like when you look at how people look at it.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's like yeah, more active.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's like oh that place is like you see it all the time on videos, people get scratched mainly, or or hair pull, or yeah, you know.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully they don't kick me because I'll probably try to fight some ghost and punch wall breaking.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just like start swinging in the air.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, transalegania is cool to do.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, next year, I think.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: I've been trying to think of Big Trip next year.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, anybody got any ideas?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: Drop it in the comments.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we're gonna wrap this one up here.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening to Trap Souls um with Lake Year Shadow Hunters, which is actually a cool name that his son made up.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: We can call it a group because there's two of you.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's two of us, isn't it?
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's a group.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: We try to get the wife why she don't want to join.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: Make her like an honorary member.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: She'll want a shirt, though.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, she wants the shirt, yeah.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so she has a good member.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: Sign up partner.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: All right, that's all you get.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: But check them out on TikTok.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he has a website now.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: He had the website of it's the same Lake Lake Erie Shadow Hunters.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, just that's exactly it.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh he has TikTok, YouTube you barely get that going on right now.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh he has an Instagram stuff, but most of the stuff he does is TikTok.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: TikTok.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, check him out on TikTok.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'll yeah, I'll put in the comments below his webpage and everything, along with mine.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, subscribe to my YouTube.
• 41:39
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• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: If you have any questions, comments, wants to go somewhere, drop it in the comments.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: We'll meet you out there.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: Again, thanks for listening.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: Check you next time.