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Why the Future of Elder Care is NOT a Nursing Home | Episode 137 · Voices for Voices®

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  Speaker 1: I am your host, founder and executive director of Voices for Voices, justin Allen Hayes.
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• 1:37
  Speaker 1: Our guest is in studio.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: We are going to shift gears and talk about a little bit of the environment that we find ourselves in and how it affects our mental health and traumatic events post-traumatic stress disorder which I'm starting to call post-traumatic stress disease because it is a disease and really tie those together with our guests.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: So we usually don't get into politics and we're not going to get into politics from.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: You should vote for this candidate or this candidate.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: You should vote for this candidate or this candidate.
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: We're just going to look at it more from the mental health side, as well as the side that some could consider elder abuse, individuals who are older.
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: So we're talking about, like I'm 42, so I guess anybody older than me could be considered an elder.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: But specifically talking, you know those.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: You know late 70s, 80s, 90s, 100, you know individuals that you know as we grow.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: We, you know, I know from myself.
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  Speaker 1: There are some things that I forget, so I have to write things down and there's different areas.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: That way, Others can the older you get, it may be more difficult to feed yourself, to walk up ramps or what have you.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: So an event that we all probably are at least aware of we don't know what actually occurred there was, since we're in a presidential election year, so coming up in November, we'll be doing that here as a nation.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: There was a debate between the presumptive Republican nominee, former President Donald J Trump, as well as current President Joe Biden, and at that specific debate that had occurred.
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  Speaker 1: There were times and again, we all have nerves, we get nervous, anxiety, stress, and we forget things from time to time, and I know I do so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean from even standing where I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm nowhere near perfect, nobody's perfect, but I'm definitely not perfect, and so I'm not expecting or assuming anybody should be At this debate.
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  Speaker 1: There were times where the current president Biden had stumbled over words, had mumbled.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: President Biden had stumbled over words, had mumbled.
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  Speaker 1: It was hard to really understand what he was saying and what he was trying to get across, and as he was trying to explain certain events, and so we start to think about whether he's fit for office.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other side of just a human being that is growing older.
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  Speaker 1: I think of my grandparents.
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  Speaker 1: They were in their 70s and 80s and then my grandma on my dad's side lived to be in her 90s.
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  Speaker 1: They're just things.
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  Speaker 1: As time progressed they were just a little bit tougher to do, stringing thoughts always together in as much of a coherent way as could be.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: So as we take a step back from the debate.
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  Speaker 1: There's this whole polarization that was even more afterwards of the media coming out and saying, oh well, is President Biden fit for office?
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: Should he step down?
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  Speaker 1: Should we invoke the 25th Amendment?
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: Should we have him run for re, for reelection?
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: Should the vice president, you know swap out, or should candidates, you know, hillary Clinton, come in and or Michelle Obama, or you know there's there's all kind of names, all kind of theories.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: They're being floated.
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  Speaker 1: But after the debate was when most of the media other than Newsmax and Fox News, that really was starting to question President Biden and whether he was fit for office.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: And so what we want to talk about today is again what we call elder abuse, and so a person that's getting older.
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  Speaker 1: So I again refer back to my family and my grandparents.
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  Speaker 1: So, as they were getting older, a couple of them went into facilities for long-term care and for dementia and for various reasons, but these were things that only came about as they got older, and so we want to think about how are we treating as just human beings, how are we treating those that are getting up there in years?
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: Are we putting them out in the public and whether forcing them or asking them to put a speech together and read off a teleprompter or answer questions at a press conference, with that aren't pre-written and pre-planned and which which can happen from time to time.
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  Speaker 1: So, with that all going on, that brings again a whole new element of okay, we're in a presidential election year and so there's more eyes on what's going on with the current president, which some may have overlooked for the last three years, three and a half years.
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  Speaker 1: So, with all that in mind, we just want to think about again, whether it's President Biden or my family or our guest family.
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  Speaker 1: As they get older, are they getting the treatment that they need at a given age?
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  Speaker 1: Are they being seen by the correct specialist doctor, or are they getting their physical?
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  Speaker 1: Are they getting blood work?
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  Speaker 1: Are they getting seen by a neurologist?
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  Speaker 1: If you know, memory kind of comes in in the in the play, and so I know that from my own grandparents that those are, those are steps and things to occur.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and and so obviously, with having the president of the united states being now included with just in in that realm and in the topic that we're speaking about, it really brought to light that our organization, you know, talk about mental health and how that has affected, you know, the individual, whether it's President Biden or my grandparents, as they got older, so that's all kind of happening and tying that into care, right.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: So there may be individuals that are actually in facilities being cared for for their ailments medically and physically, mentally, spiritually and they're at a facility.
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  Speaker 1: And so when an individual is there we know they're being cared for as best as we know.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: But there can also be instances where they might not be, where understaff may not be able to give the 20-round-the-clock care that they deserve, and there's different rating agencies that come through and so there can be a whole host of things kind of happening where elders could be getting abused.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a physical abuse, again, it can just be mental abuse.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: It could be family, not family living, or family living in other parts of the country or other parts of the world, and they're not able to make visits in person.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: So that takes a toll on a person because you think about, you know the seclusion and uh and and that of like thinking about the does anybody care about me and how that can affect things.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: So that's, that's mental health wise.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: So our guest today he's been on our, our show before you know him, he is a board member with voices for voices, as well as a Navy veteran case manager.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: He's out in the community so much and he is really helping from an organization standpoint, continuing to get the Voices for Voices organization brand out there.
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  Speaker 1: But he's helping others, he's learning how, if there's anything he can do or reach out on any way he can, he can help.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: And so, jeremiah Tomko, again, thank you for joining us good.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Justin appreciate that absolutely.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: You know, speaking of the military vets, we appreciate all your service out there, absolutely do, especially with the 4th of July that came around.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, we just, we just can't thank them enough.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and.
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  Speaker 1: So that kind of takes us into the topic.
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  Speaker 1: So one thing that you you like to do is visit a Navy veteran at a uh, I'd say rehabilitation, long-term care facility, yeah, uh, can you speak about what prompted you to get started to do that, and then a little bit of how it makes you feel and if you're able to give a synopsis of how that veteran may exhibit signs, besides saying thank you, if he's able to, but being happy to have somebody come and visit yeah, um, he's a member of our church where I attend, and, um, he's very dear to us.
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  Speaker 2: I remember at one christmas um event we did a song together, a christmas song, so definitely some fond memories with him.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: We all miss him.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, he is at a facility, unfortunately due to different circumstances with his health, so pretty much the only family he has is like a sister in the area.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And it sounds like he does not have visits from her recently and he has children that he has from, you know, other states and he doesn't hear from them very much at all as well.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: So the pastor brought to my attention and, um, I, I try to dedicate at least every other Sunday uh to go visit him and um, you just say how's your day?
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: You know uh find interest that he likes.
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  Speaker 2: You know he likes uh like war movies, crime, spy.
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  Speaker 2: So I did take him a military book for him to read and found out some shows he likes.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: I needed to find some DVDs maybe to take down there.
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  Speaker 2: He likes to play cards.
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  Speaker 2: So I went down, took some cards down there, you know, and tried to help him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, just, with some time Sometimes that all it is is time that matters and he says the food's good there at least.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: That's important.
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  Speaker 2: He's not sure about some of the workers there, but for the most part he's content there.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: But but for the most part he's he's content.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: But he says the difference between a prison and where he's at now is he can at least go outside and get some fresh air, you know yeah, yeah, he lightened up the air because it's it's got to be something all alone for 24 hours, just not hearing much.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: So at least I'm going in at least twice a month and then the pastor's going in, I think, at least maybe once a week or maybe every other week, depending on his schedule, apart from running the church and he also has a job and a family and children, a lot of responsibilities.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: So if we think about viewer, listener, how they're interested in doing that, taking up the ministry, kind of like what you're doing, how can an individual find out about individuals who they'd be able to go see, to spend time with, just to sit with or what have you?
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  Speaker 1: Can you just give a recommendation of maybe some ways that individuals can do the same thing that you're doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, if you belong to a church, definitely reach out to your church.
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  Speaker 2: You could even just call the nursing home.
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  Speaker 2: There's plenty in the area In Summit County, hudson, stoke Haga, falls, depending where you live Actually nationwide, probably internationally too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I have a friend and she had worked in this kind of facility before, so they're international indeed.
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  Speaker 1: So how does that make you feel?
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  Speaker 1: You do a lot of we talked about it on a couple of the past episodes but how does that make you feel to?
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  Speaker 1: I mean you not that you weren't before, but I mean you're legitimately making big, huge strides in helping and attending different events and meeting people.
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  Speaker 1: How does that make you feel, and how can a viewer or listener kind of get a little bit of that?
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  Speaker 1: You know, have a good, contagious thing right, like we're doing good things.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people doing good things.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways people can help that we don't always have to think about it's got to be money related, like oh, if I don't donate, I'm not going to make a big impact.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many ways to again just be present.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's the Lord's work.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I've always loved helping either my family or the community, growing up volunteering at the church.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I've volunteered at the church.
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  Speaker 2: I've volunteered at the Salvation Army, in the military.
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  Speaker 2: You're volunteering your life to serve your country.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great honor.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, anybody out there who wants to get involved there's so many organizations Reach out to Justin and we can definitely pull a plethora of referrals out.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are needs in society.
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  Speaker 1: Just a few to grow down, mm-hmm.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Just take an email, a phone call.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody probably knows your website, right yeah?
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  Speaker 1: voicesforvoicesicesForVoicesorg LoveVoicesorg yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely reach out to Justin and definitely want to help everybody out we can in the community.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of work to do out there.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: There is and as we'll see tomorrow with one of the areas with the reentry program of Summit County individuals coming with needs.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: That may just be.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't have a car and might be able to give them some bus passes, get them some food from a food bank a pantry Definitely, which that leads into a food pantry that you are now associated with.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Can you share where that is what that is and if somebody is in need in that area, how they can come and get some help?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: It's at the Church of God in Cuyahoga Falls on 4th Street off of Porch Trail, so it's right on the corner.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Second Friday excuse me, second Saturday of each month, from 5 to 6 pm, so anybody can come on down up and get some groceries.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: No questions asked, yep.
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  Speaker 1: So how did that ministry get started of starting a food?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: pantry.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I think the church has always been involved in the community.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: They also do a backpack giveaway.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I'll have to get more information about that.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can get that out to the community as well.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I believe they just wanted to start this food pantry because we have a need in the community for folks out there that may need groceries.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: You know the paycheck didn't last.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Here's the second Saturday of the month.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, we can go down to the Church of God and at least get some food for a few meals and whatnot.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: You know it's definitely important outreach there.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: At least get some food for a few meals and whatnot.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: You know it's definitely important Outreach there.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, tell them about Jesus.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: You know, while they're there, they can pick up a pass, a track I believe there's some Bibles there if they're interested as well.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: A lot, of lost souls out there that need encouragement.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as we've found over at least the last four years, if not the last eight years, there are certain topics that come up in the world and those are elections and elected officials and people running for office against another.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: How do you think the divisiveness we've seen families being ripped apart based off of who they support or who they don't support.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Can you just maybe talk about how that can affect a person's mental health, of having that extra stress where it's already tough enough to live, to be an individual and to live each day, and then to have a topic like that come up with family?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Can you touch on just maybe a little bit of that, what you maybe have seen through your work and ministry?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, there's a lot of negative and positive influence out there.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: So you know just the day-by-day living where a person's mindset is what they're putting in their mind, either on the TV, the radio, you know, at work or in society, especially social media.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: You know, not everybody's credible with the information out there.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: So we definitely want to make sure we're getting the right information, because I don't think a lot of people are out there.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Fact checking too much, like it used to be a long time ago you had to be reputable to even be in the newspaper or even on TV is probably bigger.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Now you just get on your phone and tweet or tick, tock or or know Facebook and you can put any information out there and it could be true or not true.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that could be damaging on a person's mental health in many aspects.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You know, definitely some trauma, you know, because it could be true or not.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And then what do you do?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You know because it could be true or not, and then what do you do?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: You know if it's true or not.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and add that on top of just the daily tasks of living and have that as an aspect of you know, the alerts on our phones we can get and the buzzing or the ringing sound have that as an aspect.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: The alerts on our phones we can get and the buzzing or the ringing sound I try to usually have mine off, just because it bothers me not that I get a super amount of those reminders I have sent to be off, but with text messages or things like that I know that's bothersome and that can bring some.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: We talk about the Fourth of July.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: That can bring up some PTSD or some shell shock in veterans that have been in theater in wars and bring back experiences and can literally take them back to that time.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all those fireworks and people are shooting guns around the holidays.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually down on the 5th at the Kenmore Friday event First Friday it's called and there were some people that you know they were a little concerned with the fireworks and then down there, but I thought I felt pretty safe down there.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: So they are doing some things down in Kenmore to improve the community and I'm definitely a witness of that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got to start somewhere.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So it may not be the most attractive area that somebody might think of locally, but not everything is roses and gold.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: There's areas that they would like to be on the rebound, and so having events getting people together is one way to do that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: That's excellent.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So how did that event?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: So, if somebody is interested in that event, when is it held and what types of?
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's, it's the first Friday.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was one in June.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: That's passed in July, of course.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: So in August it's on the 2nd.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: In September it's on the 6th.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Starts at 6pm to 9pm.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: There's music, food, vendors.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It's kid friendly.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: There's a kid zone.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I did see some face painting.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: There were some food trucks down there.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: If you want more information better, at Kenmoreorg, can you spell Kenmore K-E-N, as in Nancy, m as in Mary, o-r-e, dot, o-r-g.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, and you, like you said, and you felt safe and you know a area where people might not or they might say I'm not going down there.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It's right by the Kimmel Library, kimmel Boulevard.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: The county of Summit County was down there.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: You know, okay, towpath Trail had a table.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: There's a place called First Glance, their Christ Center, that works with children in the community down there.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: They're huge down there now.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're actually visiting there tomorrow, so that's good.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: It'll be an honor as well.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: There were some Christian gospel hip hop organization down there collaborating with the children to bring more positivity into the Akron area there.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Great, definitely it's a good thing.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Well, we've come to the end of our time.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: It seems to always go fast, indeed, especially when talking about such important topics and events and bringing the community up to speed with some of the things that not only are happening on a national.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the election, elder abuse and how seeing an individual may be helpful and finding ways if there are individuals that are exhibiting signs that might need a little bit of help, that, regardless of where they're at, whether they're a politician or not, they may need help and they need people around them that are going to help them in the right way.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: They're not looking out for ulterior motives for power of, you know, staying in the power.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So we got to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: We can't, you know, do certain testing on on that right, and so we talked about uh.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: You know how.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: You know the divisiveness and how that affects mental, mental health, a little bit of debate and how that tied in uh, you know how visiting uh j does a veteran or an individual that can be helpful.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It might be the only face they see other than the staff in weeks, maybe months or years, and definitely getting out in the community.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So, jeremiah, thank you for joining us again, thanks for having me on again.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: You bet Everybody out there as well.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you, and we want to thank our viewers, our listeners, for joining us on this episode.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I am Justin Allen Hayes, founder and executive director of Voices for Voices, and until next time, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.