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Hutton & Withrow: “Don Julio” Spy Scandal Rocks Auburn-Tennessee Week | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: Out of the gates on sport and state, it's Hutton
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  Speaker 1: and Withrow. Glad you're with us as we are presented
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  Speaker 1: by Hard Rock Bet. He's Chad Withrow. I'm Jonathan Hutton. Chad,
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: good to see you, man. Good morning. Good morning, Hutton.
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  Speaker 1: Plenty of stories to dive into this morning. Yes. So
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  Speaker 1: is he back? Is Stallions back in college football? I
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: hope so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we need a good spy scandal
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  Speaker 2: in college football at any time.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Look, most of the shows I watch right now involve
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  Speaker 2: spycraft in some way. Slow Horses is one that I'm
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  Speaker 2: on right now. I love a good spy story. So
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  Speaker 2: who doesn't love a spy story that involves Auburn football
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  Speaker 2: and a current University of Tennessee student in a week
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  Speaker 2: where Auburn and Tennessee just so happen to be playing,
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  Speaker 2: and then this guy gets booked in a Lee County
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  Speaker 2: jail for sharing Auburn football secrets.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so he's arrested following an internal hack and this
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  Speaker 1: data breach. right, that's going on. And his alias is
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  Speaker 1: Don Julio? Correct. Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: His name is David Rudolph Jinrath. He is 24 years old.
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  Speaker 2: And the photo of this guy is spectacular. When you
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  Speaker 2: see who the man is that pretends to be someone
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  Speaker 2: named Don Julio as he's sending out emails. So instead
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  Speaker 2: of using the leaked intelligence, rival programs reportedly flagged the
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  Speaker 2: suspicious activity. And so you've got Don Julio, Jinrath, who's
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  Speaker 2: a sports analytics student at Tennessee, just is Auburn's opponent
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  Speaker 2: this week, dubbed by media observers as, quote, one of
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  Speaker 2: the worst secret agents in college football history. To say
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  Speaker 2: the least, I would say, just given the fact that
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  Speaker 2: no one is paying attention to anything like this, given
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  Speaker 2: the state of college football, you could get information everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: It would be very difficult, I would think, to get
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  Speaker 2: caught doing this because we haven't seen it that often.
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  Speaker 1: And now we see it as Tennessee gets ready to
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  Speaker 1: take on Auburn with one of their own that's a
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  Speaker 1: secret spy internally.
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  Speaker 2: So first off, I think it'd be very easy to
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  Speaker 2: catch the person. You just look at the IP address
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  Speaker 2: or wherever they're sending the emails. If you don't hide
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  Speaker 2: it well enough, he's got some fake email account as
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  Speaker 2: Don Julio.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably pretty easy to.
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  Speaker 2: Crack this case. Here are my questions around this. He
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  Speaker 2: attended Tennessee before being arrested. He studied sport analytics and
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  Speaker 2: applied artificial intelligence. These were majors that were not available
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  Speaker 2: at my time at the University of Tennessee, I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you that. As a sports management and business administration major,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't have sports analytics, certainly didn't even know about
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  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, but applied artificial intelligence. The guy who studies
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: applied artificial intelligence said, is truly bad at artificial intelligence,
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  Speaker 2: not being able to disguise his identification as he sends
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  Speaker 2: out these emails to other programs. Some programs sent it
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  Speaker 2: right back to Auburn. They just forwarded the emails on
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  Speaker 2: to Auburn staff to show them that something was going
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  Speaker 2: on or being sent. Apparently other programs that were asked
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  Speaker 2: about this, they said, we just thought it was spam.
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  Speaker 2: Like the way it was to us, like we didn't
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  Speaker 2: really put anything into it. Who's the program that took
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  Speaker 2: it seriously? is what I'd like to know. Who's the
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  Speaker 2: program that's like, I'm going to hold this for myself
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  Speaker 2: and see what's going on. The other thing in this
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  Speaker 2: hunting is, it's not like this guy, Jenrath, Don Julio,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call him, his alias. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like he's giving out state secrets of, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: run this onside kick in this game, or we've worked
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  Speaker 2: on this trick play. Here's the tell of when we're
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  Speaker 2: going to run this trick play. It's not anything to
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  Speaker 2: that level like a Connor Stallions would be doing stealing signs.
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  Speaker 2: and knowing what they were going to do based on
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  Speaker 2: the sign. It's not to that level. We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: recruiting evaluations for running backs and special teams players. That's
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  Speaker 2: what this guy did as a part-time analyst for Auburn football.
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  Speaker 2: He was also only employed part-time from January to June.
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  Speaker 2: What is the motivation here? Is he mad that he
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  Speaker 2: got fired from his part-time.
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  Speaker 1: Gig at Auburn?
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  Speaker 2: And he decided to start blasting off emails about evaluations
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  Speaker 2: of high.
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  Speaker 1: School players that they're looking at. It looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: just pissed off for greatness at Auburn, uh, sending out
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  Speaker 1: stuff like Auburn's grading system, uh, no game plan stuff, but, uh, the,
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  Speaker 1: it was so bad that the information that Auburn's competitors
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  Speaker 1: received decided to turn him in rather than use it.
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  Speaker 1: It was so obviously just blatantly, uh, wrong. Uh, Like
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  Speaker 1: to the point where it's like, okay, this is whatever
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  Speaker 1: you're giving us. Number one, is it going to help
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  Speaker 1: us on a game week? Number two, we're not recruiting
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  Speaker 1: Auburn anyway. And number three, Don Julio from a, there
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  Speaker 1: he is. Don Julio. He does look like a guy
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  Speaker 1: who should go by three names, Chad. He looks like
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  Speaker 1: a guy pissed off at the world. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That would lose his part-time gig at Auburn. and decide,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm burning this place to the ground.
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  Speaker 2: With what little info I'm privy to on the running
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  Speaker 2: backs that we're recruiting out of Montgomery, Alabama, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to forward this to the entire conference and show what
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  Speaker 2: Auburn thinks about this three-star running back that we're looking
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  Speaker 2: at that no one else has an eye on right
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  Speaker 2: now in the SEC. The information that he's sending, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just thinking, who cares? All these programs have their own
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  Speaker 2: evaluations of players that they're going after. It's just such
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  Speaker 2: non-info info. That he's trying to share apparently. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen the emails, but the way it's described and what
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  Speaker 2: he did at Auburn, it's recruiting evaluations of Auburn. There's
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  Speaker 2: not NIL sensitive info that's been put out there of
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  Speaker 2: what they're paying players or any of that. That would
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  Speaker 2: be more damaging if that was sent in a mass
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  Speaker 2: email to everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Than what this is.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't understand the gain of anyone that would
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  Speaker 2: even receive this information and use it. It's like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: they like this guy more than we do. Maybe we
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  Speaker 2: should take another look at him. So then you just
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  Speaker 2: start recruiting them also.
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  Speaker 1: I just, who cares? Chad, he's also a former staffer.
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  Speaker 1: They've had a brand new staff. So like the grading
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  Speaker 1: system would be null and void, right? Like you're going
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  Speaker 1: to have a brand new way of doing things based
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  Speaker 1: on the new regime that's coming in and the new hires.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can be pissed off that you're let go,
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  Speaker 1: but as far as grading a player.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was there with Golish. That's what's so confusing.
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  Speaker 2: He got there with Golish in January. So January to June,
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  Speaker 2: his LinkedIn profile, which has since been removed from the service,
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  Speaker 2: says that he worked in Auburn's football program as a
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  Speaker 2: player personnel scouting assistant from January to June, helping evaluate
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  Speaker 2: running backs and special teams. So he was there with Golish.
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  Speaker 2: So this would be Golish's evaluation system. Like the layout,
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  Speaker 2: the baseline of like, here's what we're targeting. It sounds
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  Speaker 2: like a disgruntled former employee. Like, you know, he was,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, can we flash the picture of the guy again?
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  Speaker 2: One more time so we can see, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Jenrath.
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  Speaker 2: This looks like a guy who would piss off Golish
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  Speaker 2: or the running back coach or the boss because he
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  Speaker 2: thinks he knows more than he does and was politely
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  Speaker 2: told to leave the football program and then responded by
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  Speaker 2: sending out all the information that he had dug up
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  Speaker 2: to other programs. Maybe he was doing that also in
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  Speaker 2: some weird attempt to get a job with another football
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  Speaker 2: program and go to school there. He's 24 years old also,
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  Speaker 2: so he's an older college student at this point.
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  Speaker 1: He's from Franklin, Tennessee, right down the road from us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where this guy went to
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  Speaker 1: high school. I've had no luck so far seeing where
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  Speaker 1: he's from in middle Tennessee exactly. But it's a wild story, Hutton.
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  Speaker 2: I love any type of espionage in sports like counter-stallions.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun to discuss.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where I could easily see how Connor
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  Speaker 2: Stallions and Michigan could gain an advantage from what they
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  Speaker 2: were doing. I don't really know what advantage is gained
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  Speaker 2: by a program that receives this email and says, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to go all in on the Auburn emails and
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  Speaker 2: look at all the different players they're recruiting and how
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  Speaker 2: they evaluated them. Because every single one of these, they
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  Speaker 2: have their own staffs. They evaluate players in their own way.
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  Speaker 2: They know who these players are. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: if you wanted to see a player that was overlooked,
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  Speaker 2: you find out immediately by the recruiting services who offers who.
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  Speaker 2: So if Auburn offers someone no one knows about, there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing to stop Tennessee or Alabama or Kentucky or anyone
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  Speaker 2: else from looking into that player and watching their tape
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  Speaker 2: on Huddle or somewhere else or going to their game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody kind of knows everything to an extent.
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  Speaker 2: The worst part about all this is is I think
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  Speaker 2: that college sports paranoia is at an all-time high, especially
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  Speaker 2: after the Connor Stallion stuff. So these programs and coaches
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  Speaker 2: are so closed off, so shut down to everything because
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  Speaker 2: they're so paranoid someone's spying on their practice or they're
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  Speaker 2: going to say the wrong thing in a press availability
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  Speaker 2: about what they're doing. or that they're going to get
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  Speaker 2: some info they should do. This is only going to
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  Speaker 2: add fuel to that fire.
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  Speaker 1: This is the type of thing now that.
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  Speaker 2: Coaches are going to be going to their IT department saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: are we locked up good? All of our information systems,
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  Speaker 2: like do we need to evaluate? Do we need to
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  Speaker 2: go on a mole hunt within our program to find
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  Speaker 2: out who might do this? Should we do psych evals
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  Speaker 2: for our recruiting analyst to make sure that they're not
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  Speaker 2: capable of turning spy and double agent at some point?
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  Speaker 1: That's the sad part about this.
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  Speaker 2: I think we eventually now get less information as fans
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  Speaker 2: or in the media because coaches across the country are
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  Speaker 2: going to use this as a cautionary tale of what
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  Speaker 2: this guy was trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: Brooks Carter from The Next Route, he's in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: He says, interesting add-on to this. From what we've been
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  Speaker 1: told here in Birmingham, the kid was actually originally hired
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  Speaker 1: as part of Hugh Freeze's staff and there was a holdover.
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  Speaker 1: for Golish's staff. He was fired in June after he'd
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  Speaker 1: called out of work sick, but then later spotted in
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  Speaker 1: the student section at Auburn's Baseball Super Regional.
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  Speaker 2: This is amazing this is the type of local reporting
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  Speaker 2: that you can only get with like people locally that
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  Speaker 2: know the situation well done by next round live and
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: Brooks Carter on that one digging that up and that
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  Speaker 2: totally that totally tracks also the fact that Pastor Hugh
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  Speaker 2: is in the middle of this in some way can
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  Speaker 2: you see like Hugh Freeze text them Do the Lord's work, son.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Get that information out there. They're not going to be
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  Speaker 2: better than us at Auburn with Golish. I see where
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: David Griffin, he nailed it. Dwight Schrute, looks like Dwight
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  Speaker 2: Schrute's younger brother, this Don Julio character. Going back and
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: forth with the aliases is funny, too. Joey Freshwater, of course,
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: and others. Ron Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: Ron Mexico is a great one. I wonder if we
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: could get, for NIL, can we get a Don Julio
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Auburn jersey now? Is that possible? I think that's going
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: to be a bestseller. This is what we need Sporting
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: State to get in the merch business for. Clay's got
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  Speaker 1: plenty on his plate right now. He probably doesn't need
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  Speaker 1: to add to this. But any time a story like
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  Speaker 1: this hits, you've got to be ready to pounce. on, hey,
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  Speaker 1: here's the official Don Julio Auburn merch. Much like the
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  Speaker 1: Nashville Balls, which they did a good job with XXXY.
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  Speaker 2: We need XXXY-themed Don Julio jerseys. People think Julio in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Alabama. They normally think Julio Jones in Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're going to think about Don Julio and Auburn Hutton.
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  Speaker 1: Julio! Julio! Don't forget A.J. Brown chanting Julio's name. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh. Man, what a story.
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  Speaker 2: And again, now coaches are just going to be– this
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the aha moment for coaches of, see,
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  Speaker 2: this is why we're paranoid.
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  Speaker 1: This is why we worry about this stuff because it happens.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be paranoid about their own staff now
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  Speaker 1: instead of the media.
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  Speaker 2: But there are guys with info that would be way
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  Speaker 2: more sensitive than what this guy is sharing. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That is my point.
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  Speaker 2: Like somebody on that staff, if they really wanted to,
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  Speaker 2: they could hook somebody else up. And that is something
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  Speaker 2: that you watch certain performances– Like, you get late in
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: the year, and the year's disappointing, and it's like, man,
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  Speaker 2: how is this team this bad in this game? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: my mind wanders. Again, I watch all the spy shows
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  Speaker 2: and everything else. I'm thinking, is someone on staff friends
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  Speaker 2: with someone else on the other staff, and they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to help them save their job, or they're trying to
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: help go against a coach they don't like? Because we
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: know staff share information about the other ones. I guarantee
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  Speaker 2: you Ohio State staff was in touch with Jim Knowles
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  Speaker 2: in Tennessee last And that's totally legal and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: They were trying to help Tennessee eliminate Texas or help
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: eliminate Texas after losing to them. So you know Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State and Tennessee staff communicated before Texas and Tennessee played,
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  Speaker 2: especially defensively.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. That happens with everybody. Let me go back to
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: the Michigan deal. It still amazes me, Chad, that with
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: all the ex-staffers, everything going on behind the scenes there
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: with the Wolverines, that only Connor Stallions really took the
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: fall for the sign stealing. Harbaugh was lying to the NCAA, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like there are other coaches who were suspended, but it
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  Speaker 1: was Connor Stallions who took the fall. And he's leaked
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  Speaker 1: to that. Meanwhile, you've got the allegations and all these
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  Speaker 1: other things going on with Harbaugh that he's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be able to coach in college football again, but he
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: also won a national title. Like I keep going back to,
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  Speaker 1: No one rolled on him. That's crazy to me that
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: with everybody, guys like this, 24 years old, no one
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: said a word. That is just beyond believable. If you
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: would have told me that back then, that all of
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  Speaker 1: this was going on and no one said a word,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: The lesson in all this, sadly, is not a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Because Connor Stallions is better off, you could argue, right now,
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  Speaker 2: even after facing all the blame. He's become basically a
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: college football voice, a media member, a name that people
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: will know forever. He, in a way, bettered himself from
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: this scandal. Jim Harbaugh gets a job in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: right after this. I mean, the one person who's faced
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: real-life consequences, it seems, is Sharon Moore, for what was
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: going on with him at Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else fails upward. At the University of Michigan. They
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: all fall forward. And what's the lesson to this? Like, hey,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: go ahead, try to cheat.
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  Speaker 2: The risk is worth the reward right now if you're
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Connor Stallions or anyone else.
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  Speaker 1: That probably happened with Don Julio. He probably gave this
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: information out and received things back like, we've already got this, bro.
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  Speaker 1: We're good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this guy probably watched that Connor Stallions documentary
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: 50 times. He fell in love with Connor Stallions and
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: what he was doing. He's like, I could be the
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: next Connor Stallions. And this is a way to make
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: a name for myself in college football. I'm at Tennessee
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: on Saturday, and I'm looking around that field pregame, and
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I marvel at how many humans make a college football
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: game day go for the program.
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  Speaker 1: Just the program.
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  Speaker 2: The amount of people that welcome you into the family gate,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: the people on the sideline who seemingly aren't doing anything,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: others who are filming the warm-up, others who are helping
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: with warm-ups specifically for defensive tackles, others who are off
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: to the side with the defensive backs doing stretches.
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  Speaker 1: And warm-ups and everything.
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  Speaker 3: The gear.
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  Speaker 2: It is a full mobilization of an army of people
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  Speaker 2: for a college football team. So how do you rise
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: in that environment? If that is your passion and you
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: want to be a riser in college football, how do
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: you do it?
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  Speaker 1: I know who Connor Stallions is.
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  Speaker 2: I know he's not coaching in college football right now,
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  Speaker 2: but you make a name for yourself by any means necessary.
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  Speaker 2: And there's probably someone out there who's like, I'm going
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: to do whatever I can. to help myself with other
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: programs and rise in that program. And if that is
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: me becoming a double agent and stealing secrets from my
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: current school to send to another one, then I'm going
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: to do it by all means necessary. I don't think
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: there's a good message in this whole story other than
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: it's also very funny that Don Julio was the alias
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: that this young guy chose.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Don Julio. Going back to our college days, thinking about
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: this chat, what our alias would be? just based on
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: what was around at the time. Afro Man would have
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: been mine because I saw him play at my frat
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: house back in 2002. I mean, who knows? Limp Bizkit,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Hutton Sends Things is Fred Durst is his alias back
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: in the day. West Borland. Coming up, the Vols are
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: going to be wearing their alternate uniforms this week. Thoughts
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: on that? Jared Curtis going wild. going to Athens where
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: he was committed for months, what, a couple of years maybe, Chad?
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  Speaker 1: Since his sophomore year until he flipped to go to Vandy.
• 16:42
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  Speaker 1: It's absurd.
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  Speaker 2: consider going to see this on Friday before our game.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, let me see. Depending on how long it is.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see the run time on this. And then
• 20:19
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  Speaker 1: Two hours and eight minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, for Oscar bait, that's a short movie these days.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Most of them are closer to three hours. So I'll
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: take two hours.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: And eight minutes. Yeah, let's consider doing that. Chad, correct
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. This is the week Tennessee's wearing
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the helmets without the power tee. Is that right? Is
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: this the throwback deal with the big strike? I know
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it's the gray uniforms.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: It's the Neyland Legacy Smoky Gray Adidas uniforms. I'm looking
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: them up now. Guys, if we can find it, we
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: can flash it on the screen too. I think this
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: one does have a power T on it, but it's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the gray helmet.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: No, it does not. Okay. From what I can see. Yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you're right. This is the one that is just gray.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: This is like the... They're paying homage to General Nealon. Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: The 100-year anniversary, right, of 1926. And I said at
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the time, whenever we were discussing this on the show,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm all for the alternate uniform idea, but I don't
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: like getting away from my main colors. Like when Middle
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Tennessee goes into black uniforms, they're the Blue Raiders. I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: don't understand why you go away from what has made
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the brand the brand. I don't know why you would
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: take the power tee off the helmet. If you're going
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to honor General Robert Nealon, I would put the tee
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: on the side of the helmet, Chad. That's just where
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I stand on that. However, the gray uniforms look pretty cool,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and I like the details that they've added specifically to
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: pay homage to Nealon, not because it's like a flashy
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: hip thing to do or a Um, maybe it's in style.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It certainly looks like it's in style. Like I think
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: people are going to enjoy wearing the Jersey on, on Saturday.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: My thing would be, uh, can we not do it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: with orange, orange and white? That that's my, my only critique. Um,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I think it looks cool. They're going to look great
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: on the field. Um, I guess it's supposed to look
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: like an old school leather helmet. Yes. In a way. Um,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I would just put the power T on there. So find,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: find a way to do that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they could have easily just put an
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: orange power T on the middle of this. Because it
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: almost looks like a T, but when you look at
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: a couple of angles of it, it looks like a
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: T on the side, but it's the mimic of the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: leather strap on the.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Side, but it's orange. So it's like an orange.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It almost goes into a T because it's orange down
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the middle of the helmet, too, on each side to.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Look like leather.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: The one thing that I do like about this, it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: not all gray. So they're wearing white pants like they
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: would normally at home. And instead of the orange top,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: usually with a smoky gray, they're solid gray, you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: head to toe. This one, gray top, white pants, like
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: they would normally wear at home at Neyland Stadium. And
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: then the different helmet. The thing I love about the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: helmet is it's got the general star for General Neyland,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a huge one on the back. White with silver trim
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: on the back of it and Neyland's signature logo. on
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: the base of the helmet is very, very cool.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I like the patch of Neyland, too, taking the knee.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I like the design of it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I understand the thought process behind honoring a legend like
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Robert Neyland. But I, like you, am a traditionalist. When
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I watch Tennessee, I like to see Tennessee in orange
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: at home. If they're head-to-toe orange, fine. And I think
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: with uniforms, the response from any fan base, here's the helmet,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: which is fantastic. Great job getting this, guys.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: That general star is awesome. I like the Neyland signature
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: on the back. But like any uniform with any fan base,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the response is going to be dictated by how Tennessee
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: plays in them. If Tennessee comes out and lays an
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: egg and loses it home to Auburn, the fan base
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: will want to throw these in a dumpster. and light
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the dumpster on fire, never to be worn again. If
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: they come out and they win by 28 points and
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: look great and run all over Auburn, people are going
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to be saying, when can we wear those great uniforms again?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Let's break those back out for another big game. Can
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: we wear those against LSU in November? That's what Tennessee
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: fans are going to be asking if Tennessee looks good
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: in these. Again, it's not about the look as much
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: as it is with a fan. If they play well
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in them, they come out and they look like crap,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: they're never going to want to see these uniforms again. That's–
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And that's true with any fan base.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: That's right. Cool on the shoulder pads as well, where
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: they have the outline of Shields-Watkins Field and of Neyland's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: on the outside, right? Yes. As you enter the stadium.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That's cool. Of all the gates and stuff, I guess. Again,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I like the thought process into it. I just wouldn't
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: get away from the brand. And the brand is the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Power T. I don't know why you went away from
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: that if you're already going away from the orange jersey.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Well, and what did we have that was so successful
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: on Saturday with the Tennessee-Texas game?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Brand awareness. Those are two brands.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Texas may be the most powerful college sports brand in America,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: or certainly one of the three to five.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Tennessee, I'm not going to say in the three to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: five range, but a very powerful college sports brand.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: On the field. You know it when you see it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Texas in their traditional all-white road uniforms with the burnt
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: orange longhorn on the helmet. Tennessee, orange jersey, white football pants,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: white helmet with a power tee on it. That led
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: to close to 10 million people watching that game. That
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: was the most watched noon game on ABC or ESPN
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: in over.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: A decade, was Saturday between Tennessee and Texas. Those were
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: those ratings.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: This nine-game conference schedule, for the SEC is bonkers for
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: ESPN and ABC. I mean, the choices they have each
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: week of where to put games and the falling out
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of favor of that 2.30 time slot. 2.30 Central was
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: we grew up with that being the game of the week. Boy,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: our team might be on the game of the week
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: this week on CBS. Uncle Vern. 3.30 Eastern, 2.30 Central.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: It always started there and it trickled around it. The
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: way ESPN and ABC, they're doing it, they're doing something
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to counter big noon programming with that game. The 2.30
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: time slot is the one that's kind of falling away
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: because it's either you're at 11 a.m. Central or at
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: 6.15 Central at night, and that's usually the Fowler or
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Herbstreet game of the.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Week on ABC.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: But those are the two most coveted time slots now,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I think, for everybody in the SEC. But how about
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: that number, you know, almost reaching $ 10 million, and having
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: more viewers than any other game in a decade for
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: ABC ESPN.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: What would that pull at night? That's a great.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Question because the other night games we've seen this year
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: have been some of the highest rated of the entire year.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: The only games that Tennessee, Texas at noon is not
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: going to beat is Ohio State, Michigan, who trumps that
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: number every year.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It's always at noon on Fox. Just a quick Google search.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: The peak viewership for LSU Ole Miss was 14 million.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So bigger numbers. And the average viewership was 11. It
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: averaged 11.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think Tennessee and Texas reached those numbers that
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: LSU Ole Miss did because of the interest around Lane
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and the amount of people that pulled in. But it
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: gets close. I mean, I think it goes north of
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: 10 million for that if it's at night. I totally agree.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And the Texas-Arch-Tennessee angle certainly brings it back. Look, and
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: it's just a good football game. It's a close football
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: game late. Everybody's social media is going to tell you
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to tune in to that. I want to see Jared
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Curtis in a tight window ball game in a game
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: where everyone's watching. That would be the situation this week.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not expecting it as Vanderbilt travels to Georgia,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: but man, what a storyline this could set up to be.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: If the team that he was committed to Chad, you
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: look this up 13 total months, Between 13 and 14 months.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: So he was, Jared Curtis committed to Georgia from March
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: of 2024 until late October 2024.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: He decommitted.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So he was decommitted from October 17th, 2024 to May 5th, 2025.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: This is when all the rumors about the car that
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: he was driving around.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yes. Nashville Christians Campus started.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So May going into his senior year of high school,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: he recommitted to Georgia from May 5th to December 2nd,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: and on December 2nd, he pulled the last second flip
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and signs with Vandy on December 2nd, 2025.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: He was never committed to Vandy for any amount of time.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: He just signed with her. No, he just signed there.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: He just flipped, but it was over a year that
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: he was committed to Georgia. It was a torch-red Chevy
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Corvette Stingray with a black roof, black wheels, and rear wing.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Price estimated value around $ 88, 000. for what that's worth. He
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: said it was all because of his NIL earnings in
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: high school. Sure. Yeah. Does he still have that car?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Because my guess is he was forced to return it
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to Georgia upon signing with Vandy. Or maybe Vandy picked
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: up the payments on it. I don't know. That's a
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: great question. I don't know. But I never physically saw
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: him driving around in this new car. I just remember
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: asking Diego Pavia about it. And I remember Pavia just saying,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I've got a better one. I've got a better car.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And this is... I don't think it's going to be pretty.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: there are 24 and a half for a reason but
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: this to me is Jared Curtis's Faison Brandon moment from
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: this past week Faison Brandon had his first intermingling with
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a dominant five-star led defensive defense of Texas right.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And we saw how that went. It was not overly productive.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: The difference is Faison Brandon did not turn the ball
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: over because he is risk-averse right now at.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: This point in his career. I think he needs to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: let it rip more.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I think Jared Curtis probably needs to let it rip
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: less from what we've seen so far this year. So
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: that could be a recipe for disaster. Young quarterback trying
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to fit into tight spaces, trying to make too much happen, fumbles,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: you lead to interception, pick sixes. That's where this game
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: gets really ugly. If Vanderbilt can't take care of the
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: football with a freshman quarterback. But his talent is undeniable.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Well, let's also remember, if he ends up just staying
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: with the Georgia commitment, he's backing up Gunnar Stockton right now.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: He's not playing in his freshman year. In this case,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: he is, much like the situation at Tennessee, where he's
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: getting the true freshman reps. He didn't start the season,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: but he was playing. Now he's full go. He is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: their QB. And at some point, things click. But it's
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: not this week. There's just too many other questions around
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: him for me to just say, you know, this is
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the week where things just get going. 24 and a half,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I think, Chad, is what it was yesterday. I won't
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: touch that if I'm rooting for Vandy. I don't look
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that way at all thinking they cover that line. I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: don't either.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: If I'm playing and I'm playing Georgia to cover that line.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: These are two November teams and November storylines to me.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: When Tennessee and Vandy meet at the end of the year,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: let's see how those guys look. after running through a
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: gauntlet of eight SEC games at that point. They will
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: play each other in their ninth Southeastern Conference game, respectively,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: for both of them being the starter.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Let's see how they look through this.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Gauntlet of games coming up and how many conference games
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: they have, if they're healthy at the end of the year,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: what the team's records look like, all those things. Greg
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: McIlroy said it, and I think he's right. Again, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: think Vandy fans understood it going in. I think Tennessee
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: fans are going to have to adjust to.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: It a little bit.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: And look, I look at Tennessee's schedule. It's not as
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: daunting as some others in the conference. There's not a
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: single game I look at and say, Tennessee absolutely.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Cannot win this game.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Now, there's also not a single game I look at
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and say, Tennessee absolutely with 100% certainty will win this game.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: There's not one of those games on the schedule either.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: So there's plenty of opportunities for both teams. But it's
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: about stacking reps together. getting more experience, being a little
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: bit more comfortable, throwing the football. My goodness, I've been
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: flooded with Faison Brandon still photos of the All-22 where
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: he's got a guy open and he's looking right at
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: him and it's like, you've got to throw it. And
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: that was the moment in the game that we saw
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: where he's pump faking and taking off and running or
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: getting hit and sacked because he's not releasing it at
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the moment someone's breaking open, trying to wait on them
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: to get wide open. Not going to happen anymore. It
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: certainly didn't happen against Texas. Probably not going to happen
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: against Auburn. Not going to happen against many SEC teams,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: so you've got to have that confidence to do it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Jared Curtis lacks no confidence.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: He's going to let it fly, but I think that
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that could also get him in trouble against a defense
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: like Georgia, and we're probably going to see that this week.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt is going to upset one of these teams along
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  Speaker 1: the way. I agree. Because they've got a great coaching staff.
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  Speaker 1: They have a great defensive-minded coaching staff as well. Those
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  Speaker 1: are the type of games you take deep into the season–
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  Speaker 1: and then you have a freshman quarterback make a play.
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  Speaker 1: There will be something along the way that everyone's like, well, Vandy.
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  Speaker 1: Vandy did what? That's going to happen. I don't know when.
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  Speaker 1: It's not this week. I'm not saying it's this week,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: but it will happen as we get into October, November. Chad,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: is South Carolina one of those teams? We need to
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  Speaker 1: to make a loan. Well, Shea Beamer's not afraid to
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  Speaker 1: sit and look directly at the camera and say uh
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: hey we we know that we've got to be better
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: i know that i'm on the hot seat i know
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: that the pressure's on and i know that this team
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: can be better than what we're showing on the field
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: chad that didn't stop him from suspending one of his
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: better players.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: That's right, and I thought it showed some balls to
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: do that because he's a very talented guy who's going
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to be likely a high-level NFL draft pick, but he
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: behaved like an idiot on Saturday night in Tuscaloosa, multiple
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: times punching an opposing player, disrespecting coaches left and right.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: By the way, the league office came back and said
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: he suspended for one game, and then Shane Beamer decided
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to suspend him indefinitely. And he's going to have to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: earn his way back on the team. And when Shane
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Beamer was asked about who's going to be making the
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: decision on Dylan Stewart and how many different cooks were
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen, here's what Beamer had to say.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Shane, what determines when or if Dylan will return to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the program?
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Me.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I love that. As he takes the swig of water,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: is that the question? Me. He was waiting on it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: What or who determines when he's going to be allowed
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to come back on the team? Me. That's terrific.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: What's also terrific is Shane Beamer going reverse Allen Iverson
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: because Allen Iverson, as we know famously, did not value
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: practice and didn't want to talk about practice in a
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: press conference.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Shane Beamer, quite the opposite.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the question. People get tired of hearing about
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: the wrong thing. Well, guess what? We had a hell
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: of a practice today. We had a hell of a practice.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: So you get tired of hearing that, I'm sorry. You're
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: going to keep hearing it, but we got some freaking
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: awesome young men that went out there today, practiced their
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: butts off with a ton of energy, and they hurt too.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: There you have it. They hurt too. He could say
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that and get away with that once or twice. But
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: now that you've started to lose some games in the season, Chad,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you can't just point to practice. You can't point to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the reps that no one watches or sees or is
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: allowed to even film and show to fans. And he
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: knows that. But before I go off on the tangent
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: on that, I want to give him props because what
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: he's doing with Stewart is something that we wouldn't see
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: from Kirby Smart. We wouldn't see that at Georgia. We
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: wouldn't see that at Alabama. We haven't. Maybe we will
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: in the future, but quite frankly, there have been multiple
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: issues with those programs, and we haven't seen anything quite
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: like this, where you've got a job on the line
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and you're going to suspend one of your top players.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: He's also giving credit to... I get the sense that
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: his players are still bought in, and he's getting rid
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: of anyone that even hesitates to bring some of the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: negative energy into the locker room because once that happens,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: he's done.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like South Carolina this weekend because of
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Beamer this week and the way he's handled it. I mean,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: without Dylan Stewart even, they're at home against Kentucky. I
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: just have a feeling they respond. I don't think this
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: season is going to be great for Beamer. I'm not
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: sitting here saying he's definitely done or anything like that.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: It certainly looks like things could be falling apart. But
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I've got a feeling, call it a gut feeling about
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: what I'm seeing with him and how he's handled it
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: and how he talks about his team. He still has
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: their back. He's still propping them up. So we have
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of awesome young guys on this team. They
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: are getting after it. We had great energy at practice.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You know, we're going to go about our business and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: they hurt too when we don't play well. You know,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: they hurt more than you do. They're a slight favorite
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: at home against Kentucky. Kentucky's ranked 24th, by the way,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Which is still– I have to wrap my head around that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: After seeing them give up 38 or whatever it was
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: on answer against Alabama and then win at A & M. But, yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I love– I like South Carolina this week against Kentucky
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: as a slight favorite. But, Hutton, if they don't win
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: that game, I mean, this could fall apart quickly. They're
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: at Florida. Then they play Tennessee. They're at Oklahoma. They've
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: got A & M. They still have Georgia left in
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the schedule. They still end the season with Clemson. this
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: is where the wheels could fall off is this weekend.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: If they can't get that win at home. So right
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: now it remains the same. It's two and a half.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: So that line has not moved since yesterday when we
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: previewed this game, uh, South Carolina favored, uh, by two
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and a half. I I'm surprised by that. Quite frankly. Um, I,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: if I, if I were guessing this line, I would
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: say Kentucky favored by one and a half, something like that,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: just based on how the season has gone and what
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: we've seen Kentucky do. over 153 that's a little high
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: too I think just considering we haven't seen the offensive
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: firepower from South Carolina so to speak it's.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Just interesting in that how much do AP polls matter
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: how much does it matter at all I mean we
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: can talk all we want about South Carolina being this
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: point they're a favorite over a top 25 team yeah
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: this weekend so I mean all is not lost That's
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Vegas who has no partiality one way or the other
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: about any of these teams. They're telling you, everybody, hey,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Lenora Sellers is still on this team. They still have talent.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: They're at home. South Carolina is two and a half
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: points better at home than Kentucky. This is just a
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: critical game. There's no way around it. You've got to
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: have this one.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Win this game. You can start to sell. We still believe.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: We haven't given up. We had two tough weeks. We're
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: going to be fine in the long run. And it's
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: like they got killed by Mississippi State, who looks to
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: be pretty good. They lost by a touchdown, you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: at home. So this is huge for Shane.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Beamer in Kentucky. It's huge for Beamer if.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: He's going to still be coaching at the end of
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: the year to take care of business and win at
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: home against the Cats.
• 40:32
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  Speaker 1: Grievance of the week, my primary complaint this week, it
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: stems off of what JT was complaining about last week,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and I saved it. The assumption that we all want
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: to tip before any service is rendered, If you go
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: anywhere now, you go ahead and you give your tip
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: ahead of time before you even get your meal, before
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: anything is done that is anywhere near worthy of extra currency.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand why the expectation is to tip ahead
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of time. You do this with Uber, Uber Eats, anything delivery,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you're tipping ahead of time, even though they may not
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: be on time, even though your order may be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: You've already tipped. prior to even knowing who was delivering
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: your order. It's my primary complaint.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tipping culture. That's one for every week. By
• 42:45
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• 42:47
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• 42:49
  Speaker 2: from there also.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I have some visual evidence for my primary complaint this week.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: And we'll get to that here momentarily. Okay. Went to
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: a restaurant.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Last night, Angie and I, a very late celebration of
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: our 17th anniversary because we've had kid activities and I've
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: been traveling on the weekends with college football and everything else,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: but went to a nice steakhouse for dinner. When you
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: go to a restaurant, it doesn't have to be a
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: nice steakhouse where you're spending a lot of money. It
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: can be any type of restaurant. You expect certain things
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: to be functional and be there, right? Like the plates
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: that aren't cracked.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: A fork.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Silverware and forks that aren't bent or that have all
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: of the prongs on the fork. Spoons that are functional.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Nice cloth napkins.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: That are there and not dirty. A clean table. Yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you know, the bare minimum, right?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Like the things that you need to have a fully
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: functioning restaurant. Something else you need at a fully functioning
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: restaurant of any kind. A functional pen.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: That works. And that writes.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Here is the visual evidence of what I'm talking about.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: When you hand me a pin, and this happens far
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: too often, far too often does this happen.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Pins don't work. You're a server. Wow.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Your job is to serve and to have a pin.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: And you don't need to go through 17 different pins
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: to find one that works. If you hand me one,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: the assumption is it works. When you hand me one
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: that it doesn't even click into place... and I can't
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: find you to get another one, we're forced to have
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: my wife pull a MacGyver on a pen, completely deconstruct
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: it at the table, take it out this way, and
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: then use the little bitty part where the pen actually
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: works to get it out. And then to put the
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: pen back together to hand to you when we're done,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to sign a bill, to leave you a what?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Tip. To leave you a tip on a pen that
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't work. Have a pen that works. This is a
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: message for servers everywhere.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: And if you don't or you think that maybe one isn't,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: have multiple ones there ready and make sure it works
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: before you walk away and I don't see you. Because
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I do not want to get up and come find
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you for a pen so I can then sit there
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: and write an exorbitant amount of money that I'm going to.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Tip you with. This is my primary complaint. Well said.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Well said. JT.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like kind of going in a circle around
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: food here, but this is both inside and outside. I'll
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: start outside. You pull up at a drive-thru and they say,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: hey there, are you using the mobile app today? Except
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: it's automated, it's AI. And I say, no, I'm not.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: And they say, okay, would you like to buy this?
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: And I say, no, I would like to buy the
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: 10-piece nuggets. I'm sorry, did you say you would like
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: to buy a hamburger? No, I would like to buy
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: the 10-piece nugget. I've realized that This is why we're
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: taking 25 minutes in a drive-thru now because half of the.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Stuff is AI.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And then eventually you will get a human on there
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: who's beyond frustrated because they've been listening for the last
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: 90 seconds too. Do you try to talk to a
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: computer that can't understand what the hell you're trying to order?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: And then lastly, is that all you would like?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: That's it. Okay. Would you like to buy a Frosty? No, no,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: we just said we were done here. Thank you.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: But even worse, let's now go inside to one of
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: these fine establishments and see three people standing behind the
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: counter doing nothing, watching you try.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: To order at a kiosk.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: You know how damn difficult it is to try to
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: tell Taco Bell that you want a taco with just
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: meat and cheese for your picky nine-year-old? And oh, then
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: we need to add some sour cream to something else.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, 15 minutes later, It's so frustrating. I just
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: want a real human to say, hey, welcome. What can
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I get you? Okay, that's going to be $ 14.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: 52. Thank you.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Just this AI generated and kiosk inside restaurants making our
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: life even tougher is my primary complaint.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I think they intentionally make it difficult to find what
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you want in order for you to see more things
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and click on things you don't actually want when you
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: walk up, but then your mind tells you you want it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: like putting the milk in the back of a grocery
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: store so you have to walk all the way through
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: all of the items. Because AI is smarter than this.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: If I want to voice something and say, I want
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: extra sauce to go with my Arby's today, it's going
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to be able to read my voice and tell me
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: exactly what I just said. Instead, it's nearly damn impossible
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to hit one, two, three extra packs of Arby's sauce
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: if you wanted it on the app itself. Because you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: have to dig for it to find exactly where the
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: extra condiments are. I'm with you, JT. It's stupid. And
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: if they had someone there working, they would get it wrong, too.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: And typically, the kiosk, there's three or four of them.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Usually only one of them works.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: And then you've got some idiot like me in front
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: of you who's been there for six minutes trying to
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: figure out how to work the damn thing. I just
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: don't understand how it benefits anybody. But it's very frustrating.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: And you hit on something, JT, the kids of it all.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: If you have kids, when your first question, because I
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: have become my father who I'd make fun of for
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: years for being so discombobulated at a drive-thru because he's
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: getting shouted at from four different directions of orders. And
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: he just goes, oh, you know, when the person starts
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: talking back, you're trying to give the order. If they
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: say a word, the response to my dad is every time.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: That's the impression of my dad. But when they start with, oh,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: would you like a value chicken sandwich today?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Or would you like a, no, no thanks, I don't.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Can I start my order now?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Because I'm getting four different orders right now that I've
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: got to remember somehow and then find out what I
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: want to eat, which usually is just the lowest common
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: denominator of.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Whatever I see. Hey, yeah, you know what?
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Whatever you just offered me, I don't even know if
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I like it, but just give me that because that'll
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: make it easier for me to order something instead of
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: going through all this. And ordering on an app, I mean,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I encountered this in Knoxville this past weekend with an
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Uber Eats delivery. I mean, guys, this is the someone
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: at work sends you out to get lunch for everyone
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: of today where you just want to get the simplest
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: thing possible because it's so hard to make special orders
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: on those apps. We had a coworker who used to
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: ask for light ice for me when I'm getting seven
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: different value meals. at Wendy's. And my response is, oh, yeah, sure.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: And he would say, do you remember the light ice? Yes,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I remember the light ice. Every single time, I would
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: never ask for light ice. Hand him his drink, and
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: he's like, it doesn't have light ice. I'm sorry, they
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: screwed it up.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: At the window.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: That's the way I feel trying to order online with
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: an app. Like, just get me a pepperoni pizza.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Also... I don't need any sauces, anything.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to order this because it's the first
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: thing I saw on there, and I'm going to click
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: on it, and now let me pay and get it
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: over here.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Also, the person, and this could be anybody. I'm not
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: talking about Light Ice Guy. But if you get a burger...
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Just get everything on it that comes with it and
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: take it off whenever it arrives. It's really not that
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: difficult to take off a tomato. I don't want onion
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: or tomato, but I want extra pickle. No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: We can't be bothered by doing this and trying to
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: keep up with all this on your behalf. Especially if
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: there's multiple orders, like a handful of people that are
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: all pitching in for this one order, Chad. I'm with you, man.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: The person who wants to go very specific order just
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: because they're one of seven people ordering... it's impossible to
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: actually get correct. Yeah.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, take whatever you don't like off your burger
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: or your sandwich. You know, when you're in that situation,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: you're just shouting a bunch of orders. Either have something
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: on standby you know you like that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: You can get.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: We talked about Arby's. We like a nice beef and cheddar.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: You don't have to screw with a beef and cheddar.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Just get a beef and cheddar.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: You don't need to get a Philly cheesesteak and ask
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: for no peppers on the Philly cheesesteak as you're doing it.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: And if you don't like the peppers, take the peppers off.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: As you get it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like we're doing a public service by explaining
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: these things to people of just social norms, but a
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: lot of people don't get it. They still want to
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: get very specific with their.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Order, like JT's nine-year-old, who is very picky and specific
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: about the order. When you are not nine anymore.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: And you become a grown-ass adult, you order something that's
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: very easy for the person ordering to make if they're
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: going to get food for you.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: That's a separate rant. JT hop back in here. Cause
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Chad check the chat and see if
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: we have some primary complaints there as well. But you, you, your, uh,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: complaint brought up, uh, exact deal, uh, for us. We
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: were driving in Texas this weekend. Uh, and, uh, Betsy
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Noel is trying to order just a large fry, just
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a large fry. And it, and not no fault of hers.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: It took her a solid three minutes at this kiosk
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: to get to the fries large, and then try to
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: check out properly. And then, uh, It took forever to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: actually get the fries. I mean, that's the one thing
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: they always have a ton of.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: If you're just trying to go in and order one thing,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: it's awful because they want to ask you, are you
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: sure you don't want to drink?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Do you want to round up for charity?
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: You have to do that too. Mark brought up a
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: good point too about maybe a discount for us. It
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: is very, very difficult if you're going to try to
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: order either one thing. Or if you're trying to do,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: you know, as Chad said earlier, three or four orders
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: for three or four different people. It is beyond time consuming.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Whenever we were in Oxford, Chad just
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: ordered pizzas. We just had pizza. Pizza was available if
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: you wanted pizza. It didn't matter if you wanted cheese
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: or if you wanted meat lovers, if you wanted pepperoni.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: You just had pizza available. And if you liked it,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you liked it. If you didn't, you didn't. That's how
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: it should be, Chad. Well done.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I searched pizza near me at our house in Oxford.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I did this at 10 a.m. I ordered it at
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: 10.30 a.m. The guy showed up at 10.57 a.m. And
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: he said, man, you're early. Right as games were starting,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I did that because I know this town
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: is flooded and everybody's about to be ordering pizza to go,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: to be delivered. So I knew you'd get here fast
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: if I ordered early. Sure enough, that was the way
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: to go. I appreciate you saying that, Hutton. Mark, our
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: guy Mark Herman says, Mick Kiosks, at McDonald's are downstream
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: consequences from the push to raise minimum wages to $ 20
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: an hour. That's a bigger economic topic for another day,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: but he's probably not wrong about not wanting to employ
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: actual human beings because of the.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Cost of it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I also like sometimes I'm, people that work at fast
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: food places, I want to thank them for working there,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: just for being there. You know, at some point, like
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, wow, thank you for taking.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: This job and actually working this job and showing up.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: There was an 80-year-old woman at Arby's. Remember her, Chad? Yes.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: What was her name? Her name was like Janet or.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: She had been an Arby's team member since 1989. Something
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: like that. It said on her badge. Yeah, it was
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: pretty incredible. Catfish Jake says, my primary complaint, Tennessee Titans apologist.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Super fans that still continue to make excuses for how
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: bad Cam Ward is playing and won't admit that he
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: is bad. Uh, that too is a good one. David
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Griffin says, my primary complaint is to your point guy.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: We're having a conversation. I know you're going to respond
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: to what I just said. I don't need you to
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: start a sentence with to your point. I think that's
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: just a tick to say that you're listening to whoever
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: saying that's just a way to verbalize where you left off.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not just shutting you down.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not just going to start where you ended and
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: say something. I'm going to acknowledge that you have spoken
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: and that I have listened to your point.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Catfish Jake, who beat me in fantasy
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: football by, I think, three tenths of a point. I mean,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: it was because Mike Vrabel got his ass kicked. And
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: my head coach was minus three points instead of minus one.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: That's what it came down to in this fantasy football league.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Catfish Jake wins. I am now two and one. Chad,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you remain unbeaten. I do. Did JT lose too? I
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: think JT lost. Yeah, JT lost. JT's too long. Yeah,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: that's right.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: The only 3-0 teams remaining are me and Reno. So
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: me and Reno are both undefeated at this point in
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: So kudos to us. Sorry about you guys and your
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: loss on that one. Yes. We'll see what happens.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: My wife Angie, watching the show or listening to the
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: show right now, says, which brings us back to the
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: point of why moms can't decide where to eat. To
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: JT's previous point, also to what David said about not saying,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: to your point, moms can't decide where to eat because
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: everyone's shouting at them what they want most of the
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: time with kids saying different things. So fair point, fair point.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: But also just decide, just pick, you know, we're their parents.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: You just all just make a decision and you can
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: like it. You can find something there that you can eat.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: So she got the pin to work, I guess.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she took it apart like MacGyver. Yeah, yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: She just completely took it apart and where the little
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: bitty thin part that had the pin attached, I wrote
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: with that. And then she put the pin back together.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I thought she may have pricked your finger and you
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: signed it in blood or something. Yeah, that's what Jordan
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: on the YouTube chat said. You're going to have to
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: sign this in blood.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Hey, I got something here, Chad. Yep.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: So bringing that up makes me also think about this.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I think last week or the week before, we were
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: talking about the, speaking of the kiosk, where you leave
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: the tips.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: How awkward is it?
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Would you rather have the pin issue or would you
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: rather have the lady that shows up with the toast
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: thing and hands it to you and says, here, go
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: ahead and write down. Click this button for 25%. You
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: can't even see how much your tip is at this point.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: You're just clicking a percentage and it puts you on
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the spot at this nice restaurant. I'd rather write it down.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I'd rather write it down, Chad. How about you?
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Every time, 100% of the time. This is not 60%
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: of the time it works all the time. 100% of
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: the time it works all the time.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Write it down.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I do not want that little machine turned towards me
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: with her waiting until I'm done to see her tip
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: as you're doing it. That's a brutal process. I mean,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I left like 20%. It was a sizable bill last night.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I left like right around 20%, but maybe like 19%
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: or 18% because I.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Was trying to get to a round number.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: And even then, even after she handed me a pen
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: that didn't work, I still felt like a little bit ashamed.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: that it wasn't like 25% or over 20% of a tip.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to rush out of the restaurant before
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: she sees the tip that I left her, even.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Though I left her 20%.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I can't fight this inherent shame I feel if I
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: don't give a full tip, even if the service isn't great.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: You feel like you're being judged. I feel like I'm
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: being judged.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. Who's this person to treat
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: me like some plebeian as I work here and not
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: give me the full 20% I'm doing my best here,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm in a dead sprint to the parking lot
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: every time.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what happened to me Sunday. This
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: was wild.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: So I'll say the name of the restaurant because they
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: do a good job for us.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Chili's. We're at Chili's, and we eat.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: And the kids decide they want, and they've eaten well,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: they decide they want a molten lava chocolate cake, right?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. So I tell the waitress, and
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I go ahead, and they have the things there that
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you can.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Pay $ 17 to play a game if your kid decides
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: to hit a button by accident.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: So after I place my order and she says, got
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: that in, she types it in on her little handheld machine.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I go ahead and pay so I can get out
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: of there once my food's there, they're eating, we can leave,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: we don't have to worry about it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: So I just go ahead and pay.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Well, about seven, eight minutes go by and she's like, oh,
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: let me go check on your molten lava cake.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And I said, thank you. Well, she comes back five
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: or six minutes.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Later and she said, oh, it didn't ring in. So
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: we need you to pay for it. I didn't look
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: at the bill. I just went on and paid what
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I paid. And now I've already paid and she comes
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: back and says, hey, we actually need you to pay
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: this $ 8 for your molten lava cake.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: And I was like, hmm.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: And guess what else? Tipped me on top of that too.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: So here we are.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: This is like Monopoly. You have bank error in your
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: favor is the way I feel. The Chili's Corporation can
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: take this $ 8 hit would have been my response. I
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: think you'll be okay and survive the night if you
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: just go ahead and let me have the molten lava
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: cake that you failed to put down in the.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Order originally, and now I've got to go do this.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Speaking of that little game kiosk thing.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: at Chili's or Applebee's or wherever they have it that
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: kids play with, that thing, I could feel a.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Sore throat coming on just looking at the thing. I mean,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not a germaphobe about certain things, but my kids
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: with their grubby thumbs all over it, knowing how many
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: grubby thumbs and hands are all over those things that
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: are just sitting at the table when you arrive. I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: can literally feel throat congestion as I'm looking at that thinking,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: here comes a two-day cold for my kids and then
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: probably for me based off of this contraption. Those things
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: are the worst. Spell the full name for strep throat. Yes,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: this is strep.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: This is physical embodiment of strep is what they're handing
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: you with that.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: It's awful. Coming up, we have Jason Foster from sportandstate.com
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: who's going to join us. He's actually at the Atlanta
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and Philly series right now taking place. down in Georgia.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Plenty of good seats available in that series. There were
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of empties in that game yesterday because of
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: the start time mid-afternoon.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: If I didn't have this show, I would be thinking, well,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: if there's game three, it wouldn't be a bad little
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: day trip to go down and take in a 1
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon do-or-die playoff game for Major League Baseball, Braves,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: and Phillies. We know a great balcony, too, for later
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. We do, yes. If they continue to advance.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Jason Foster is going to join us the very latest
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: from Atlanta next.