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Ian Furness 10/21 H3: Corbin Smith, talkbacks, texts and Fact or Fiction, plus Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrook Coors Light. Cold
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  Speaker 2: as the Rockies took a shootout, but the Kraken got
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  Speaker 2: to a shootout win over the Detroit Red Wings. They
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  Speaker 2: blew a 3-0 lead in the third, went to overtime,
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  Speaker 2: went to a shootout. Bobby McMahon, game-winning winner in the shootout.
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  Speaker 2: And also, Phillip Grubauer is really good. Next up, Utah
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  Speaker 2: Mammoth in town tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Play like that tomorrow, it's not going to be pretty.
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  Speaker 2: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday the league welcomes an
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  Speaker 2: investigation into the Philadelphia Eagles' handling of Jalen Hurts' blood
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  Speaker 2: clots after the Players Union asked for one.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, he.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure welcome is the... I know he said that, Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe that he means it.
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 6: He'd never be dishonest.
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  Speaker 2: The Giants are going to start J.J. McCarthy on Sunday
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  Speaker 2: against the Texans. Jameis Winston has started the previous four games.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to Corbin.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to take a deep dive into all things
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks with Corbin Smith, sports reporter for Emerald City Spectrum.
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  Speaker 1: sellers in western Washington. Whether you're buying or selling, contact
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  Speaker 1: Jim at 206-769-5466 or at Jim at soldbyjim.com. Now with
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  Speaker 1: Corbin Smith, here's Ian.
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  Speaker 7: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Just a real quick shot. Nick Lee does a great
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  Speaker 2: job covering the track for Hamilton City Spectrum.
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  Speaker 5: He does a fantastic job.
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  Speaker 3: He does a really good job. Like, a really good job.
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  Speaker 2: Especially since the local newspaper no longer covers them. They
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  Speaker 2: use AP stories. Nick does a great job.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to let you know, as a hockey guy,
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  Speaker 3: he does a great job.
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  Speaker 5: He's really come a long way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because he's a baseball guy by heart. Is he really? Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I grew up in San Diego. He's a huge Padres fan. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 5: But he watches the Mariners closely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a good job.
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  Speaker 5: But he loves.
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  Speaker 4: He loves.
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  Speaker 5: the Kraken and he loves hockey.
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  Speaker 2: If people haven't seen the new layout and stuff, it's great.
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  Speaker 3: Emerald City Spectrum. Great look. Great layout. Well done. Really
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  Speaker 3: good stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Much better than our previous.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, very, very good.
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City's coming to town. Do you know who Ken
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  Speaker 2: Walker plays with? Did you know that?
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  Speaker 5: No, I haven't heard anything about it. Have you followed
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  Speaker 5: that story at all, Corbin? I've heard nothing about K-9
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  Speaker 5: running wild for the Kansas City Chiefs. Number two in
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  Speaker 5: the league in yards after contact.
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  Speaker 3: We go on and on. What'd you get out of
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald today?
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  Speaker 5: Just in general uh you know he's he's playing the
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  Speaker 5: normal card that he's gonna play about a guy that
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  Speaker 5: he used to coach like yeah we you know we
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  Speaker 5: had a great relationship but we're trying to win a
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  Speaker 5: football game here you know um not not gonna be
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  Speaker 5: pouring any gasoline and any fires or anything like that
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  Speaker 5: as far as him not being back or you know
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  Speaker 5: the team not resigning him and you know, the other
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  Speaker 5: players today, how did, you know, Julian Love, how did
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  Speaker 5: it feel like, well, we're not involved with those decisions,
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  Speaker 5: you know?
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  Speaker 3: Right, right.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, there was nothing like earth-shattering that was said
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  Speaker 5: today on that front.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had Jaron Reed sitting in the seat you
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  Speaker 2: sat in a couple hours ago, and, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: was like, hey, he's my friend, but now he's not
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  Speaker 2: my friend on Sunday. He'll be my friend afterwards, but
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  Speaker 2: he's my friend. But, you know, and, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: could tell the disappointment. He talked about Sam Darnold's stuff.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to play that tomorrow, too, Ashley. He talked
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  Speaker 2: a lot about Sam Darnold, but The focal point this week,
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  Speaker 2: I guess the happiest guy in the world probably should
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  Speaker 2: be Sam Darnold because the focal point this week is K-9.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Right? That's the storyline. Yeah, Sam, you know, for
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  Speaker 5: as much pressure as he's been under like this week,
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  Speaker 5: everybody's going to kind of shift gears now to, you know, honestly,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of the discussion is about John Schneider and
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  Speaker 5: the decision not to sign Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 2: I brought that up yesterday on the show, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to say– I'm being very careful how I
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  Speaker 2: phrase this because I don't want to put words in
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  Speaker 2: people's mouth in general terms. And although I tried to... Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I did try to stir it up with Softie yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Softie was weak.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to just create some acrimony between the
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  Speaker 2: two of them is all. Insinuating that Fane is anti-John Schneider.
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  Speaker 2: But Softie just totally bailed on that process. So it
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  Speaker 2: didn't work.
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  Speaker 5: But I do believe that.
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  Speaker 2: There are some fans that are questioning John Schneider. And
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  Speaker 2: because of this decision.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: As you and I both know, a zillion things go
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  Speaker 2: into these personnel decisions. And I don't think you can
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  Speaker 2: make the judgment six games into a season. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: right now it doesn't look good. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you can make that decision six games into the season
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  Speaker 2: that it was either a good or bad decision.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you. And the thing that you
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  Speaker 5: have to consider here with the running back position as well,
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  Speaker 5: especially the workload that K-9 has right now, is he
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  Speaker 5: going to physically be able to hold up? for an
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  Speaker 5: entire season doing that. Now, you can also look at
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  Speaker 5: the other side of the coin here. The guy that
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  Speaker 5: you earmarked that money that would have gone to Ken
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  Speaker 5: Walker III, Rashid Shahid, has generally not been productive this year. Now,
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  Speaker 5: the Denver game, you got a little bit more out
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  Speaker 5: of him, and I certainly think that he is capable
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  Speaker 5: of being much more productive, but they just haven't been
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  Speaker 5: able to make it work. They just haven't been able
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  Speaker 5: to get him involved without it feeling forced a lot
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  Speaker 5: of the time, which that shouldn't be the case with
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  Speaker 5: a guy of that playmaking ability. You should be able
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  Speaker 5: to scheme up easy ways to get him the football.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back to that for a second. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: get back to Ken Walker in a second. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: back to Rasheed Shaheed. It felt like they were trying
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  Speaker 2: to get the ball to him a lot more in Denver.
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  Speaker 2: Now the next step in the process is, does that continue?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it continues?
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  Speaker 5: And can you find some easier ways to get, like
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  Speaker 5: they were chucking the ball downfield and it worked on
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  Speaker 5: one of them? He could have caught the second one maybe.
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  Speaker 5: That was going to be a really hard play. You
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  Speaker 5: want that to be part of your offense. That's a
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  Speaker 5: big part of his skill set. But can they find
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  Speaker 5: a way to get him the ball on some quick
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  Speaker 5: screens and drag routes, crossers? Just find some ways to
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  Speaker 5: get him in space. You've seen what he does in
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  Speaker 5: space as a kick and punt returner, but they're just
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  Speaker 5: not creating those opportunities for him. Is that offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 5: or is that something else? Well, the play caller is
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  Speaker 5: the one that's got to be able to scheme that up.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to create those opportunities, and there's quick screens.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to be able to get them set up
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  Speaker 5: so that you can utilize them. The couple times they
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  Speaker 5: tried in the Denver game, they were swarming him like crazy,
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  Speaker 5: so it just didn't work. But, like, gosh, you've got
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  Speaker 5: to find some ways to get the football into his
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  Speaker 5: hands and let him be a playmaker.
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  Speaker 2: Ken Walker missed games each of his first three seasons
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL before last year when he played in
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  Speaker 2: all 17 and in the playoffs. He's never had more
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  Speaker 2: than 228 carries in a season. Hell, he might be
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  Speaker 2: there right now. I haven't even looked at what he
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  Speaker 2: has right now. And then when you want to include
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  Speaker 2: the receiving numbers, I mean, they're an average of around 25,
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  Speaker 2: around probably 30 or so a year in terms of
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  Speaker 2: receptions as well. So we're talking about a guy whose
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  Speaker 2: workload has been somewhere around 250 max per season in
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  Speaker 2: terms of touches. What if he does have that year
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  Speaker 2: with 350 touches, 100 more than he's ever had before?
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  Speaker 2: Is that when we judge this move?
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  Speaker 5: I think at that point that it's fair game. If
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  Speaker 5: he gets through the entire season and he does that,
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  Speaker 5: I know some people would say, well, he's got to
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  Speaker 5: play multiple seasons on this contract, but especially if Rasheed
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  Speaker 5: Shaheed doesn't turn things around here and become a bigger
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  Speaker 5: part of this offense and part of the solution for
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  Speaker 5: this offense, then you really can start to look at
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  Speaker 5: that like, man, I hate to keep using the burning
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  Speaker 5: money thing, but it starts to turn into a joker
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  Speaker 5: on the Batman movies like, It's not about the money.
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  Speaker 5: How does Jadarian Price fit into this mix, do you think? Well,
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  Speaker 5: you've got to get him back, and you've got to
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  Speaker 5: keep him healthy, and you've got to keep him from
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  Speaker 5: fumbling the football. That would make this a better... I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it'd be easier to stomach if you were getting production
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  Speaker 5: from him.
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  Speaker 2: If Jadarian Price was playing a first-round running back, albeit
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  Speaker 2: a rookie first-round runner, but if he was out there
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  Speaker 2: averaging 85 yards a game, and I don't think there's
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  Speaker 2: any reason to think he won't when he's healthy. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we've watched him play. You see it. It just hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been healthy at all. But I think if he was
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  Speaker 2: doing that, you could probably stomach it a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more as a Seahawks fan.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you look at the complete process. Ken
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  Speaker 5: Walker has a monster year, but Janarian Price in the
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  Speaker 5: second half really turns it on, and Seattle wins most
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  Speaker 5: of their games. Fans are going to kind of, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's been great over there, but we can see that
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  Speaker 5: John Schneider's process, especially if Shahid picks it up, but man,
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  Speaker 5: If you get a lackluster first season for Denarian Price
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  Speaker 5: and Rasheed Shahid continues to be on pace for, he's
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  Speaker 5: on pace for 51 offensive touches, and he's been healthy. Like,
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  Speaker 5: that is offensive malpractice. Like, I'm just being honest. You'd
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  Speaker 5: say that about any team. When you pay a guy
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  Speaker 5: the money, they're paying him, and they just aren't getting
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  Speaker 5: the football. And that number went up. He was at 40,
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  Speaker 5: a pace for 40 on the season before the Denver game.
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  Speaker 5: It's just, you've got to get him involved more.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think– let's go to Walker for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith joining us in Real City Spectrum. Triple options,
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks podcast.
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  Speaker 5: We'll tell you about that in a second with Turbo
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  Speaker 5: and Ranger, which is I guess you guys are just
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  Speaker 5: killing it with.
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  Speaker 3: That thing, which is congratulations. We're having fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are doing a really good job with that.
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  Speaker 2: What's the concern with Ken Walker? I mean, this team
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  Speaker 2: knows him better than anybody. They know him. They know
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  Speaker 2: what he's going to do. But how do you slow
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  Speaker 2: him down? Because that's what's going to be the focal point.
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  Speaker 2: We all know that's the focal point.
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  Speaker 5: I think the biggest key when you play Ken Walker III–
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  Speaker 5: you have got to be gap sound. You cannot give
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  Speaker 5: him wiggle room to squeeze through a tiny little crease
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  Speaker 5: on a cutback. You can't give off the edge. You've
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  Speaker 5: got to be able to contain. You have to be
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  Speaker 5: on point the entire game with your gaps and not
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  Speaker 5: give him opportunities to find those creases. And dang it,
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  Speaker 5: you better have dudes swarming to him because he's going
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  Speaker 5: to break some tackles. You've got to have multiple guys
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  Speaker 5: that are ready to bring him down.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Jaron Reed said, actually. The exact
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  Speaker 2: same thing. The exact same thing that Jaron Reed said here.
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  Speaker 2: The easier said than done.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Right? Easier said than done. He's going to get
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  Speaker 5: his at some point. What's too much? I think if
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  Speaker 5: he gets... If he gets above 85 rushing yards, that'd
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  Speaker 5: be about my cutoff here. Because remember, we've got this
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  Speaker 5: long streak that Seattle's on. I believe it's 35 straight games.
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  Speaker 5: They haven't given up a 100-yard rusher. This might be
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  Speaker 5: the toughest challenge to keeping that together because, man, Eric
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  Speaker 5: Biennemi coming back has been such a big difference maker
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  Speaker 5: for that Chiefs offense.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what about the Seahawks? They're running backs. We know
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  Speaker 2: the issues. Jadarian Price is hurt. First of all, we
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  Speaker 2: saw Charbonnet out there a minute ago. Do you expect
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  Speaker 2: to see him play?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. I just... Fans need to temper expectations
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  Speaker 5: here in terms of, I've seen a lot of fans like, yes,
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  Speaker 5: we got him back, 20 carries. No, you're not doing
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  Speaker 5: that the first game that he comes back from a
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  Speaker 5: torn ACL. I think you're probably looking at a seven
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  Speaker 5: to eight carry workload in this game. And that could
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  Speaker 5: still be a boost. You could have three or four
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  Speaker 5: of those in the red zone and he could actually
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  Speaker 5: punch it in, which they've struggled so much to do
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  Speaker 5: this year without him. So he can be a game changer.
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  Speaker 5: It's just you can't be expecting that he's just going
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  Speaker 5: to suddenly get thrown in and he's playing 70% of
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  Speaker 5: the snaps on offense. They're not going to do that
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  Speaker 5: to him.
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  Speaker 3: Who does it come in expensive?
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  Speaker 5: Probably George Helani is going to be the one that
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  Speaker 5: won't be seeing the field as much. I'd expect that
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  Speaker 5: Emmanuel Wilson is going to be the number two guy.
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  Speaker 5: And we'll see. Maybe Robert Henry will actually make an
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  Speaker 5: appearance this week.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just looking up. Okay, so Charbonnet. He's had.
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  Speaker 2: 20 carries once in his career. He had 22, and
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  Speaker 2: that would have been in 2024, Mike McDonald's first year.
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  Speaker 2: He had 22 for 134 and two touchdowns at Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: He had 19 at Dallas, 19 for 60 yards at Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: He had 18 for 91 against Miami at home. That
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  Speaker 2: would have been 2024. I'm just looking. 2025, so last
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  Speaker 2: year would be the comp, right? Last year, Carolina, 18 carries, 110.
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  Speaker 2: and two touchdowns. That's kind of his, but you look
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  Speaker 2: through his career, he's in the 10 to 12, 9, 10, 11,
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  Speaker 2: 12 range for most of his games.
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  Speaker 5: But he's never been the guy. He's never been the guy.
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  Speaker 5: He's never had that opportunity. Hell, you'd make the argument
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  Speaker 5: Walker wasn't the guy half the time. Right? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they will, but that's one of the reasons that he's
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  Speaker 5: in Kansas City right now. Right. Because he wanted to
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  Speaker 5: be the guy and wanted to show he could be
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  Speaker 5: the guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that at all. All right, let's flip
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  Speaker 2: over to the quarterback for a second. It's funny watching
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  Speaker 2: Sam walk out today to practice. I think I can
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  Speaker 2: say this is no trade secrets. He walked out because
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  Speaker 2: we're not supposed to say anything until after practice is
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  Speaker 2: the deal. But listen, this is no football thing. He
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  Speaker 2: just walked out. He was joking around, pointing his fingers
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  Speaker 2: up in the air, talking to guys. He looked as
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  Speaker 2: relaxed as possible. I've always thought with Sam Darnold, the
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  Speaker 2: thing with him, I always thought last year what I thought,
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  Speaker 2: I think we all thought this. His resiliency, to me,
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  Speaker 2: was one of his strongest traits. And we saw it
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  Speaker 2: in the four-interception game. We saw it a lot of times. Like,
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  Speaker 2: could just be awful. Didn't seem to bother him. Like,
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  Speaker 2: he was able to bounce back from it. And just
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  Speaker 2: watching him today, like, he looked... You can fake stuff sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much those guys fake stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's just.
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  Speaker 5: Who he is. I don't think... I think that's who
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  Speaker 5: he is.
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  Speaker 2: I think it is who he is, too. So, can
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  Speaker 2: he bounce back, do you think? Because this is about
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  Speaker 2: as hard as it's been for him here.
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  Speaker 5: He absolutely can... I think Brian Fleury's got to help
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  Speaker 5: him out a little bit. I don't want to pile
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  Speaker 5: it on the OC because I think he's had some
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  Speaker 5: games that he's done some really good things. But we
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  Speaker 5: talked about this in the Seahawks Triple Option show on Friday.
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  Speaker 5: I watched all 22. I got a huge all 22
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  Speaker 5: on Emerald City Spectrum that you guys can check out.
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  Speaker 5: I probably spent seven hours putting it together. I don't
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  Speaker 5: understand why you would go into that game knowing what
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  Speaker 5: Denver's biggest strength is, especially without their top corner. Their
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  Speaker 5: greatest strength is their penetrating defensive line. The Zach Allens
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  Speaker 5: of the world. The DJ Joneses of the world. Nick Benito.
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  Speaker 5: Those guys are shot out of a cannon. They're getting upfield.
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  Speaker 5: They are penetrators. Why would you run a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: slow-developing play-action plays that have pulling centers and pulling guards
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  Speaker 5: on them? Sam Darnold was just left out to dry.
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  Speaker 5: on several of those, and they happened, I mean, there's
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  Speaker 5: no time for a good sack, but they happened at
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  Speaker 5: awful times. Yes, yes. When they were past midfield, and like,
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  Speaker 5: so that's my thing, you gotta help your quarterback, get
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  Speaker 5: him some of those easy completions, and make it that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and I think you gotta help your offensive line,
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  Speaker 5: that did nothing for Graze Abel, and one of those plays,
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  Speaker 5: Graze Abel's trying to reach block DJ Jones, and he
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  Speaker 5: did the best he could, but DJ Jones just shot out,
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: there was no, they're spitting on the run game, right now.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: So, I think Brian Fleury's got to be able to
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: help his QB out. And flip side, I will also
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: say this about Sam. Last year, a lot of the picks,
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: when he had that run where he threw a lot
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: of interceptions in like a five or six game span,
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: I could watch a lot of those plays and feel like, look,
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: I can see the process. I can understand why he
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: threw that ball. All but one of the picks he's
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: thrown this year, I've just been sitting here just kind
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: of like, I can't. I can't process. I have no
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: idea what he's processing here. Both picks in the Broncos game,
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: especially the overtime one, I'm like, that was never there.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: That was never there. I'm sitting on my couch, and
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: I'm not like a connoisseur, like knowing all the coverages,
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: but I'm sitting on my couch watching them like, they're
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: clearly in cloud cover too. Why are you throwing that ball?
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: So he's got to, I think Fleury can help him
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: by letting him get to the line of scrimmage a
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: little quicker. They just still have too many plays where
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: they're getting there.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about that Friday. That was something that
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: was bothering you a lot.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And it just feels like that has been a
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: persistent issue for them, and it's not given him a
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: chance to fully read what he's seeing. I think that
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: would help him out again. I think there's a lot
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: of process things that can be fixed.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I'm always hesitant to go down this road because it's
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: not my world of expertise in any way, shape, or
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: form in terms of being an offense coordinator or play caller.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: But the thing is, when you say that.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: And I've heard other people talk about the same thing,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the plays are coming in late, he's not having as
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: much time to process the line of scrimmage. That just
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: screams first-time offensive coordinator that is still trying to find
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: his keys underneath him, right? If you've never done that
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: before at that level, it's a new job. It's like
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: any of us have had a new job.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: It's hard, right?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: You take some time to acclimate. Now we're six games in.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: No more acclimation. Let's get after them.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: And offensive coordinator, look, if there's a position that sums
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: up Jerry Glanville when he said NFL stands for not
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: for a long time. Offensive coordinator takes the cake. He
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: would be the sub-definition.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Especially in this building.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Especially taking over for a defending champion.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Who's having success as a head coach. The expectations are
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: through the roof, and if you aren't able to meet
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: those expectations... It can become very difficult to want to
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: go to work in those situations.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: We're spending a lot of time talking about Ken Walker
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: and the Seattle running backs and Stan Darnold. There's another
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: guy that's sort of a headliner in this game.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: His name's Mahomes. You might have heard of him. Quarterback.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Kansas City.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Really good.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: What should Seattle be concerned about there?
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: To me, it's the same.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I think there's the one common denominator with this team
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: that Pete and Mike had. Tight ends seem to get
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It seemed to hurt them sometimes. So Kelsey's got to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: be concerned. Gray's got to be concerned. They don't just
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: have one. They've got two really good tight ends.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: But that's where I think you've really got to maximize
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Nicky Manwari. I also would say that this would be
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: a game, Patrick Mahomes even coming off his injury, his
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: ability to be able to improvise and sandlot plays, he's
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: still as good as anybody at that. Having Nicky Manwari
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: as a spy time to time, is like a cheat code.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: A couple of the reporters are just joking about this
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: out in the field about Eamon Worry. If you've ever
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: played Madden, growing up, I always would just, okay, who's
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: a corner that isn't playing but has 90-something speed? I'm
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: going to sub him in at linebacker, and I'm going
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: to manually play him as a spy. And it was
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: always a joke. But Seattle legitimately has that guy on
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: their roster that they can do that with, and they
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: can play him there, and they can do other stuff with.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: So I think that can be a big part of
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: this game.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Like I said, Kelsey gets
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: headlines because of the wife. Noah Grazes is a really.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Good player too.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going to keep saying this. I know I told
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: it to you after they drafted him. That kid is
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: a gold jacket caliber player.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Yep, even more. No doubt. We'll see what he does.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Let's just look at the defense for Kansas City. What
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: do they got going on?
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Steve Spagnuolo, you want to talk about a guy that
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: deserves a second chance?
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: You just sound like Chris Collins.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Here's a guy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Here's a guy in Steve Spagnuolo.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: We're going to look at him 15 times on the
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: cutaways on the show. But yes, anyway, continue.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Because we're going to hear that on Sunday.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Here's a guy.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I think he deserves a second chance to be a
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: head coach in the NFL. The guy is masterful. They
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: lost their top two corners. They traded one of them
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: for the Rams. The other one signed with the Rams
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: of free agencies. They lost their top two corners.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Watson and McDuffie.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: They lost some other key players, Leo Chanel being another
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: one that went to Washington. They lost some key players,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: and they just keep chugging along because the guy is
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: a schematic magician. He knows how to put his players
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: in position. He's kind of got some Andy Reid on
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: defense where I will modify what my scheme is to
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: match my personnel, and he's just so good at that,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: and he really knows when to mix in his blitzes.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: He is very good at that, so... This is a
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: defense that always is going to be challenging because of
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: him being on the sidelines.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith, just for one more shot at it, let's
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: just go down the road of the actual math. And
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: let's math it for a second. I was talking about
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: this with Greg earlier. You're sitting at three losses. You've
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: got Kansas City and Chicago coming up. The 49ers aren't
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: going to lose anytime soon. I mean, maybe Michael Penix
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: upset some. Can't see it happening, to be honest with you,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: this weekend down there. Kyle Shannon's got them so focused.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: They're playing well. And they're going to start getting guys back.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That's the other problem.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: They're going to start getting guys back.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: It could be worse. It could be the Rams at 2-4.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: It feels very much like you're playing for a wild
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: card right now, which is fine, but the wild card
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: race will get heated because, really, it feels like it's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the three teams in the NFC West and everybody in
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the NFC North. Those are your playoff teams outside of
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the NFC East winner, whatever slumlord comes out of there,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and probably Carolina in the South. But those aren't going
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to provide wild card teams. You're battling the North, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: you're battling the Rams. That's kind of how I see
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: it right now. Yeah, you've got a perfect pulse on it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think that this division race has been decided
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: just yet.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It feels close.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: If Seattle can.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: They'd have to go 8-3, and you'd have to beat
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: them and have a better conference record the rest of
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: It's going to be a tall task, but I think
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: that if they didn't have any games left against San Francisco,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: then I would say it's over. But the fact that
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Levi's Stadium is kind of in their second home field.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: It has.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It has.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: So I could still see San Francisco slipping up in
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: a few games, too. They're beatable. Washington had every opportunity
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: to win that game the other night. And I hate
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: saying it, but Dan Quinn not knowing what down it
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: is and things like that. And he said he did. No,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: he didn't. I read his lips perfectly on that. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: know he said it was four times. Like, they've got
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: their issues, obviously. But I think that San Francisco is
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: definitely beat. They are a beatable football team. I could
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: see them losing a few games along the way. But, yeah, Seattle,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: if they want to win the NFC West, you better
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: go on a run like you did second half last year.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Just to remind everybody, this is what's coming up.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, then Chicago Monday night, Arizona, and then at
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas before your bye week.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And that's a very much improved Vegas team.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: So let's say you go 3-1 in the next four.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: So now you're 6-4, right? Heading into the bye, and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: then you've got San Francisco. Still in it?
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: If you beat San Francisco and you're 7-4, 49ers would
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: have to choke in one of those games at least
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: to be able to. That's the issue. They're going to
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: have to slip. But I believe it can happen. This
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: is the NFL. I think Atlanta, the Falcons might be
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the most unpredictable team in the league because you saw
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: what they did in Green Bay. If that team shows up,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: they can beat San Francisco. If the team that showed
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: up last week shows up, they will get ran out
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: of their own building. You just don't know with the Falcons.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think just with tiebreakers, if we're being honest, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: they go 3-1, the 3-1 better be Chicago, Arizona, Vegas.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Or a combination of Chicago and Arizona, because you've got
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: to win the NFC. You've got to win the conference games,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: because that's a tiebreaker that comes into play.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I've got to get those. Tell folks about the podcast,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: first of all. Yeah, Seahawks Triple Option. We're on YouTube,
• 23:03
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• 23:07
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• 23:09
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• 23:11
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• 23:15
  Speaker 5: we're having an absolute blast. So keep up with that
• 23:17
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• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Nick Lee and the rest of you guys are doing
• 23:20
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• 23:23
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• 23:25
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• 23:36
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• 23:40
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• 23:42
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• 23:50
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• 23:50
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• 23:51
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• 23:54
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• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you, my friend.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: That's Corbin Smith.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Take a break. Come back at Factor Fiction at 235 today.
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  Speaker 3: That's good.
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  Speaker 4: Next.
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  Speaker 7: Even if the Seahawks match the offer for Walker, I
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: didn't see.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Walker coming back.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: He was getting used in between the 20s and taken
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: out in the red zone in place of Charbonnet. Now
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: he's being used like he wanted to be used instead
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: of being protected.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: So even if he was with Seattle this.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: Year, he still would be only getting 10 to 12
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: carries a game rather than being a bell cow like
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: he is now with Kansas City.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You know why Steve Sarkeesian sucks?
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: It's because he picks his nose and eats it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Remember that?
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: It's terrible.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: You think Richard Kahn could throw, I don't know, like
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: $ 3 million at a live and brown that I.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Can keep and save and eat up?
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Still got to have some of that home improvement money, right?
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Just a thought.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Well, who's the guy they always trump out there and
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: put out there in front of you?
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Who's the guy?
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Who's the guy?
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: That is.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: A guy. McHale?
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, Joel McHale, yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: God.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Mercer Island grad. Fellow Islander.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's just... No more. No more. No more of him.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: But he's got money, doesn't he? He's got a bunch
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: of money.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: I don't know how much he has, but I'm assuming
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: it's a lot more than I have.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: What about the guy that played Jesus? Oh, yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: Jim Cavizio.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: What about Kelsey Plum?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: She got any money?
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure she does. Probably has quite a bit.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Guy's got a lot of money there.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Somebody texted in at 49451 to tell me how it's different.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And I think there's a big difference here. And I'm
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: trying to read if this is a bitter Husky fan
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: or if it's a bitter Cougar fan.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I can't tell the difference. Now I'm going to lose it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: It was basically telling me what's different between getting a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: half share in the Big Ten and.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: The death penalty. Oh, yeah. Well.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Well, I saw that one.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: There's a pretty big difference. There's a pretty big difference. I,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: people throw on the death penalty. Like they don't remember
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the death penalty is like you lose your program.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: It wasn't, it wasn't like, Oh, you're just, you're still there.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: You weren't there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Like Eric Dickerson and company got rid of SMU football
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: for years.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I understand how that works. How Washington, when, when they
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: got busted by the, which is still the weirdest thing
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: ever by the PAC 10, not even the PAC, not
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: even the NCAA. I mean, they, They lost, what, a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: year of bowl games or something, but a year of
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: irrelevant games, and Coach quit and everything else.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: So there's a big difference. There's a big difference. A
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: lot of NBA stuff. A lot of people are saying
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: they're kind of done with it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I still think it's going to be a huge deal
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: when they come back, if they do come back, if
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: and when.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: But we'll see. Let's get to it. Factor Fiction.
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• 27:58
  Speaker 2: All right i'm feeling i'll be honest with you i'm feeling.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Dirty with this pick oh no.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Oh no It's going to go against everything I believe in.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Yeah, everything.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, you're making me feel very nervous.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: It's very off-brand.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Very off-brand.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: But I'm doing it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Ashley, you know what happens a lot of times when
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you have a big win?
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: There's a letdown.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got to have that letdown game.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't always happen.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Not if you're playing for something special. And not if
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you're playing against a team that isn't nearly as good
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: as you. Oh, by the way, here's what you're doing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: You're going to text FACT if you agree, 49451. FICTION
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: if you disagree, 49451.
• 28:48
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• 28:53
  Speaker 2: and Hotel. I am anything but a fan of the
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Blue Cougars of BYU. But, but, I don't see a letdown.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: And they only have to win by a touchdown and
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: an extra point at Central Florida. Early game, but I'm
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: all over it. BYU minus six and a half. Fact 49451.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going with the Blue Cougars. God, I feel dirty.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: But you can just say it's the Cougars and then
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: that makes you feel better.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: No, because if I say I'm going with the Cougars,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: nobody's going to vote. Everyone's going to vote fiction.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: That's true.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: It'll be a record-setting fiction day.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: It would be. No.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going the Blue Cougars of BYU, Provo, Utah. Get
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: your juice boxes out.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Sorry, USC. Juice boxes are a BYU thing.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Get your Jell-O with the fruit in it for your
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: wedding and your mini eclairs and all the little stuff
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: you do, your funny underwear. I'm going BYU, minus six
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and a half, fact, four, nine, four, five, one. over
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Central Florida. No letdown for Kalani Satake. No letdown for
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeier, where he's the weirdest number for a quarterback ever.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: By the way, now getting a little bit of Heisman
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: conversation for Bachmeier.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Getting a little.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's... This might be the first ever unanimous one.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: It should be Jeremiah Smith unanimous.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: I say that as a voter, even. We're not supposed
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: to disclose, but... But seriously, come on. He should probably
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: be the unanimous pick. Bear Bachmeier, if this team goes.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: 11-1 in the regular season, 12-0. He's going to be
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: in there. He's going to be in the mix. And UCF,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: most impressive win, I think it was TCU, and they're
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: not good. So, yeah, I'm all over this. All over this,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: all day and every day. BYU is going to go
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: down to Central Florida. Here's the thing with BYU, too,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: that you do have to remember. All joking aside, they
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: don't play a lot of true road games anymore. just
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: because of the church. They probably, along with maybe Notre Dame,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: but I think in some ways even more so, because
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I'll say this to them forever. Not every Catholic is
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a big fan of Notre Dame.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: This guy included.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: But most Mormons are big fans of BYU. And that's
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a big-ass church. So I'm thinking BYU goes down there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: They've got a lot of fans. It's going to be warm.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And they're going to win easily. At least by a touchdown,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: an extra point. So BYU minus 6.5.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Fact. Take it to the bank all day long. This
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: is a lock this week. I don't have a lot
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: of locks. Wow. That's bold. This one is a lock.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: This one is a lock all day, every day. BYU
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: going with you guys. Absolutely sicko pick on my part.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Makes me sick to my stomach, but I'm doing it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: I'm in.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: BYU minus 6.5.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: Fact.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: 49451, Ashley.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: I don't feel gross about it, but I understand why
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: you do.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: There's not a BYU fan in Provo where I used
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: to do a radio show and they just loved me
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to death would believe I just did that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: But I did.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: They'd also tell me that everything I do in my
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: life is wrong and evil, but that's fine.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: That's probably correct. They're actually probably right in that regard.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: But I'm going BYU.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Blue Cougars. Blue Cougars with the win. Fact 49451.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Minus six and a half.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: BYU. Take it to the bank.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Lock, lock, lock, lock. Big lock.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: This is a lock. This is the first time I've
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: had a lock all year.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Wow, wow, wow. God, I need to win so bad.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: I need to win. I think you're trying to will
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: it this time.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I can't let Fane beat me. I can't let Fane
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: catch me.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: He's had an awful year. Yeah. All right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, we'll be joined by the number one
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: rated show in the world, at least in terms of
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: some people's rankings.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: The Dave Softee, Mahler, Dick Fane extravaganza. We'll hear from
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Softee coming up next.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Things up from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, the closet
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: that you know so well, Softy, here.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Looking in here at.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: A whole bunch of Pelican cases being stored.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: What's going on?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: How annoying is that, by the way?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Very.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: If I just did that the entire segment.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: All righty.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't be the number one ranked radio show in
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the city if you did that.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Hey, you're number three, pal. Pretty good.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: It was big.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: It was big.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: It was big. I'm going to take that into the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: contract negotiations.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: You totally should.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: I am number three out of seven. That makes me
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: just above average.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Slightly above average.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Slightly above average.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Slightly mediocre.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, God. You know what? I think that might be
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: the story.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Of my life, man.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Slightly mediocre.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: It's like I told you. It's like I told Kevin Harlan, man,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: don't expect too much because then I have to deliver.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I don't want you to expect anything from me.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Just look at me and just see what I am.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: See mediocrity, and that's what.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: I'll give you. Meanwhile, you're talking to a guy that's
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: the best in the business. And Kevin Harlan. Yeah, totally.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: He knows.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: He knows.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: He knows. He knows.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: So what's the vibe over there, man, getting ready for
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: this thing on Sunday? People want Kenny Walker back? What's
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the story?
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had Jaren Reed on today. He's like, man,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: I can't believe we got rid of Kenny Walker. It's
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: the worst decision ever. Schneider's an idiot. Yeah, no. Yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: I'm not surprised.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine that damn John Schneider?
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Jeremy's like, basically, he resurrected my career, but screw John Schneider.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: He's an idiot.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: How could you– I mean, I said this yesterday, and
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: we'll talk to Harlan about it because he knows the
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Chiefs pretty well. He's got a house in Kansas City,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: all that. But how can anybody look at the Kenny
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Walker thing and not think that they made a mistake?
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Well, that's, I mean.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty obvious, right?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you have to, I mean, I
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: think the final decision has to come down the road, right?
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Sure, but for today?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but right now, today, it looks awful. Right now, today,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it does not look good. You know, he's played 17
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: games once in his career, and that was last year.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: He's on pace for about 125 carries or actually touches
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: more than he's ever had in his career. And if
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: he gets all those things and does all that, well,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: first of all, we're talking about an MVP.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: God, wait a second. Can you imagine that?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: The running back that you let walk, it's the MVP.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: And you end up being wild card three.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: And your running game stinks on top of that. I mean,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: that's kind of part of this whole equation is that
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: what you're planning on doing. I mean, to be fair,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: you've got to see what happens when Price gets healthy.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Charbonnet gets healthy. I get it, all that. But right now,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: let me ask you a simple damn question because we're
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: simple people. Would you rather have Kenny Walker on the
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: team or not?
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: I didn't want him to leave in the first place.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Totally with you.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I've always been a fan just of him, period. I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: thought there were times when Pete misused him. And to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: go back in time in that regard, I just– I've
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: always been a Ken Walker fan, and I just think
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: that it's a guy that, didn't you always feel when
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: he was here, until the playoff run last year when
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: they were forced into, literally forced into using him, right?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, just absolutely forced into using him. It always
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: kind of felt like they just didn't use him to
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: his fullest potential.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: And then last year they finally did. They had to.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: In the final six games of the year, he was unbelievable.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, he was gone. So, I don't know.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess we can just say, you know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: all of us. I mean, nobody thought this would happen
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: with Kenny Walker in Kansas City, obviously. I don't even
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: know if the Chiefs thought they were going to get that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, if the NFL thought he was
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: going to do this, then he would have made a
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: lot more than $ 14 million for sure. Yeah. You know, look,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I just go back to when the whole thing happened,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: and I remember talking to Jackson and Dick on the
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: air during the offseason saying, guys, are we going to
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: be sitting here in late November wondering why the hell
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: we let Kenny Walker go, and now we're doing it
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: in late October. So, I don't know. But, yeah, it's
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: kind of interesting to see him coming back to town
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, and I'm wondering how much red and white
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: we're going to see in the stands this weekend, by
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: the way.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Jaren Reed brought that up. Jaren Reed brought that up.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Well, they haven't been here in eight years, the Chiefs,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: And it's only the second time since 2010. I mean,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: it's like when Iowa came to town. Iowa hadn't been
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: here for like 40 years or whatever, right? So it
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: was natural there was going to be a lot of
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: black and yellow in the stands or black in whatever
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: the hell color they are. When you have a fan
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: base that's as rabid as the Iowa fans are and,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: you know, Kansas City fans and they haven't been here
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: in forever, it's natural to think there's going to be
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of fans there Sunday for sure. I agree.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: You know who the happiest guy is about Ken Walker
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: coming back to town?
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Who's that? Who's that?
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Because all the talk is– We're tied. All the talk
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: right now is Ken Walker. And Darnold's like, hey, you
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: know what? Maybe people are forgetting what I did last week.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe we forgot about that. I will say this.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: The mood was good.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Like, honestly, out of practice. But, you know, you've been
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: around this forever. 30 years I read today in a thing.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: 30-plus years you've been doing this. NFL players don't– like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: they flush the game pretty damn quick. Like fans are
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: pissed off for a week.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: NFL players are like, whatever, let's go.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Next one up. I think they take it harder the
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: night of the game, and then the next day they're done.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: They're moving on. They put their whole life and heart
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: and soul into it for a whole week. But it
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: is a little bit coincidental that Zach Charbonnet, you know,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: coming back, you think Schneider looked at Zach and said,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: can you just get back by that Sunday night game
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: when Kenny Walker comes to town? We've got to have
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: some semblance of a run game, man.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Come on, bro. We need you, man. But he's not
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: the running back that they need.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I know that. I know.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And they're going to have to ease him in.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, God. We'll see how much they ask him to
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: do on Sunday night. But I'm with you. I like
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Charbonnet when he's a compliment to somebody, not the number
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: one guy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Which would have been the plan if the rookie was healthy.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Exactly. That's the kind of analysis you get from noon
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: to three, people. That's why he's number three right there.